The 500-year-lifespan geodesic dome home is now real, actual, built
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2022
- We desperately need more housing that is affordable, sustainable, and mass producible. Geoship thinks they've created exactly that, and have now actually built a full-scale prototype using their advanced materials science and construction methodology.
In this TechFirst, we chat with CEO and cofounder Morgan Bierschenk.
Way too many can’t afford homes right now, especially young people, and the homes we do build are generally horrible for the environment. Plus, the isolated wood boxes we build for people don’t tend to bring us closer together.
Geoship is building sustainable bioceramic domes. They're non-toxic, have a near-zero carbon footprint, are and designed to last 500 years. They’re also intended to be affordable, mass producible, and maybe even to be deployed in communities where people can live together, not apart.
Sounds idealistic? Maybe.
But the company has completed its first full-size prototype, has 500 orders, and is looking to enter full-scale production.
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There are 1000yr old Cob houses in England. Earth & straw
The main problem with alternative home technologies is that, while many home owners are motivated to build them, and can imagine living in them, most homes are currently built by developers purchasing large tracts of land, and then sub-divided, so they can build using the cheapest methods possible.
I would like some discussion on how zoning lawes and construction codes can be modified to encourage, especially energy efficienct building techniques, but also, so that individual home owners can have more say in the final house that is built.
And yes, I love this bio-ceramic dome idea. I love the idea of building a structure that will last hundreds of years. Also, these sound really good for Florida, resisting hurricanes and salt spray near the beach. However, I myself would never live in Florida, unless it was in something like this.
Developers can also put 100 people on an acre, but zoning laws prevent individuals From putting a village of 10 homes on the same property. The laws are designed for the rich developers.
@@Flyingrabbit2222 Ever heard of the Biblical land parcel?
A parcel is interpreted originally in the 1980s as 1 acre which is 4,000 square meters, others say it is 50 meters on a side or 1 quarter of a hectare or 2,500 square meters.
Bigger problem is that nobody can afford to buy a moderately expensive home alternative that depreciates or doesn't appreciate in value.
We are launching a platform to democratize village development. INSIGHT - In the future, communities will populate the land from the cloud. Zoning laws are changing quickly across the nation. Whatever a developer can do, "we" can do. Ceramic geodesic homes will not deteriorate or depreciate in value, not with a 500-year design life, in villages that are also permaculture gardens/communities that get better with age.
Amazing Idea, I would imagine with enough sqf area having 5-6 in a circle and middle would be a serene Japanese garden or your taste.
agree!
This is so highly needed. Our construction now sucks. Our society is fragmented. My relatives grew up in Europe with family always nearby. They miss it terribly now living in the USA all separated especially in old age when help and companionship are vital. This won't happen in my lifetime but it must happen.
Too bad we are losing habitat for not only animals but human animals. Would love one of these.
I personally think the Soviets and cities had the right idea with skyrises to better utilize the volume and reduce surface area impact on the planets surface area down to a certain depth like to not impact water tables. What's bad is the developments didn't get much past the U.S. in multistory industrial applications and like I mentioned for lodging. Agriculture is only now really starting to get multistory and/or integrated natural resources designed at each level and/or dedicated levels to have natural resources habitats. Seems more better planned for those agricultural or natural resources production integrated is the better ways and means to deal with resources, where an emphasis needs to be on the materials sciences and designs so the structure itself can last the longest like thousands of years. I know my thoughts regarding some days is to use more stone possibly. Granite and UPHC aren't utilized like I think from my chemistry background, as they can be for longer lasting safer structures. Also, footing can be improved to allow for longest term lasting leveling systems and lateral motion bearing surfaces so to best survive natural disasters. Even aerodynamics along with allowing more natural lighting in come to mind as design considerations needing to be considered.
Love this. We need this in Europe too.... Hemp insulation with this might be amazing. And making this to passive house standards, I can imagine this to be a perfect home!
R BUCKMINSTER FULLER way ahead on this IDEA.... the issue is localized material.... military was a big customer... but electric- construction -insurance unions and companies lobbied federal-state-local govt to not allow permitting of housing/manufacturing that consolidated -eliminated blue collar jobs-...because it killed there business models and communities that produced the materials that provide materials and housing and building structures...
Larry Miller - WE ARE THE BORG ! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE ! YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE COLLECTIVE ! - WE ARE THE BORG ! 😈
Substitute Borg for HOA or Any government🤣
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Building permits are also prohibitively expensive
I never hear mention of the land that these will go on. Even tiny homes on wheels have to get parked somewhere. The video shows a very idyllic community setting. Water and sewage are not discussed. Also, a home is not an empty shell. The finished interior with wiring and plumbing is a huge cost of a home.
Yep, it's true. All of that needs to get sorted.
@@johnkoetsier This is a great concept! Being involved in community development, "one small town" in South Africa, I need more information please! Especially the micro factory
Duh.... why the fuck would we talk about the obvious? None of that cost changes...
Well the wiring for a small dome with a small kitchen is much different than your normal 300m^2 American house. It’s no different than a tiny home or a small house it’s just the sides are made from ceramic hexes that’s it.
Of course this is true for any house
I had these ideas year’s ago and did a lot of research. time is good, community building the way to go.
The Design per se, is old. Buckminster Fuller already experimented with this kind of forms.
The new thing, is material.
Aloha
What is the website?
Be interesting to have a fully buckyball version so there's a basement!
Lets just remember those 3D printed homes that were to be available for the masses at 10 k per unit. Last time i looked at their site. They are selling them for 400k. Epic fail at fixing the broken housing problem.
What is going to need to happen is whole entire cities will need to be built away from known towns. Set up your own government, city council etc... make sure to be near a good water source, have either a grocery store in one of these domes, post office. Nothing cultish, or stuff like Jonestown or Brasilia. Good luck, and yes I'd love to buy one of these
Lord everybody. - thoughts on setting up your own community. Find out how the Amish people did this.
Research a guy who lived in Belize and one day the US marines landed on the beach and took all the FRNs (US $) from the Belize banks Including his savings of 1 million plus. So he had to go back to USA to survive. He wondered how these people could steal his life savings with impunity, and began to do some research about how America became a recognised country. He discovered stuff contained in Embassy libraries about THE LAWS OF THE NATIONS. And learned about the 'Right to go into Exile'. and how to file to become a new nation. A non-geographical political affiliation. This is a remedy.
Another way is to produce a private member's co-operative (on steroids) This way public officials who are trustees in the public interest have no jurisdiction in the private. Someone is already doing this but are keeping it low key for now because it's all held in private trusteeship.
Amazing! 🙂💛👍
Who wants to be together? That's why you own a house. A sanctuary away from people and the stresses of life. The domes are cool though. I'll buy one to put on a huge piece of land away from people. A community of one.
Hail is a problem in Colorado! How does the ceramic finish hold up to wind driven hail stones??
I would love one of these
There is an epidemic of speculators grabbing up property and artificially inflating costs globally. The actual construction cost problems are, while real, the smaller part of what we need to solve for. I admit i do love the domes, but there is only so much density that is reasonable in that form. Thus, i'm also curious how we might also use this new material science coupled with the off-site module building (the micro factories) to help alleviate our housing affordance problems using other, more dense, forms that are suitable for larger (yet still self-sufficient) communities.
Sign me up for the dome community if there is a place the land is affordable and yet still close to civilization and the life sustaining/extending amenities we have in healthy communities. That might be a bit too selfish of me though!
Dao When - if you're in the USA . I will send you some links. Stay tuned
Love the longer lasting and other intent design planning. I personally think the Soviets and cities had the right idea with skyrises to better utilize the volume and reduce surface area impact on the planets surface area down to a certain depth like to not impact water tables. What's bad is the developments didn't get much past the U.S. in multistory industrial applications and like I mentioned for lodging. Agriculture is only now really starting to get multistory and/or integrated natural resources designed at each level and/or dedicated levels to have natural resources habitats. Seems more better planned for those agricultural or natural resources production integrated is the better ways and means to deal with resources, where an emphasis needs to be on the materials sciences and designs so the structure itself can last the longest like thousands of years. I know my thoughts regarding some days is to use more stone possibly. Granite and UPHC aren't utilized like I think from my chemistry background, as they can be for longer lasting safer structures. Also, footing can be improved to allow for longest term lasting leveling systems and lateral motion bearing surfaces so to best survive natural disasters. Even aerodynamics along with allowing more natural lighting in come to mind as design considerations needing to be considered. I think the paradigm of thinking is better that the 30 year wastoid more modern designs with toxic yards that produce nothing other than waste and moronic visions of deviants.
winner genius! this is workable
If some model could be adapted to urban life as bus stop shelters or shelters for parks and kiosks for the marketplace your busyness could have a boom and you would have to work overtime... 🔮
It's a great idea, smart approach, lots of potential but we need to manage expectations here: We are looking at bringing a concept from a proof of concept (TRL 3) to TRL 8-9 in only 3 years?
Morgan I can see an Airstream trailer style trailer using the new bio-ceramic shell.
This would address the tiny home market.
An envrro complimentary material for those not finding ceramic affordable dome homes.
I just really want to see the inside of one.
Foamcrete Domes have been around for years and has excellent Reviews
Anybody get a handle on the pricing range on these things and where are the available?
Now, bribe the politicians to allow these in neighborhoods.
As a private co-op purchase the land. Start veggie and fruit farms. House the woofers in these discrete dome parks.
Public bodies can't interfere in private member societies.
Jamesetal - like the wise King once said "money talks"
and there's a modern addendum too
So does 'photo opportunities' 😁
Sooo cool! Now I have a bunch of intense questions. So, if you have the slightest inclination to read on, be aware I am asking them like a total pest. 😉
How does ventilation work in the domes? Can you safely set up heating and cooking appliances that work on anything but electricity? Do you have any visions regarding water systems, or where water tanks might live, and if water could be collected? Do your domes come with a floor? If so, what is it like? Do plumbing and electrical systems have a path through the shell? Is it easy to secure piping and wiring. It looks like each triangle has a truss-like structure to set the insulation inside. Is that accurate? It sounds like your materials and shape might comfortably allow the structure to settle in a variety of extreme environments (a real gem for adapting to climate change): Are there conditions that might seriously stress the structure of the materials you are using? Is it possible to set up your dome without the assumption of stable ground? For example, on a floating barge.
Ok. All done.
Sierra Sukalaski - excellent questions 👍. When preparing a book on the subject your questions should be the framework. You are asking all the right questions and I am going to use them to re-arrange the order of my research notes. Thank you 👍 and stay tuned
@@joedee1863 ☺ Will do! I'm blushing here, and I appreciate the compliment.
This is a very interesting idea. One question I have: how would you deal with local building codes/inspectors that only deal with traditional stick frame or concrete construction?
Dealing with permits and inspections is a pain with traditional houses I could not imagine trying to get permit to put up something this innovative.
It's a great question. I asked a friend who works at the city I live in as the key person in planning, and he told me they're pretty open to new technologies. That said, YMMV.
I agree with Gary about the concerning. It is necessary to count about loan and if any government programs for real estate loan also cover this idea. I am living in California, and yes I think about it this can pass earthquake legal and practical too.
@@jonathanlee8709 From my limited experience with dealing with code enforcement (California is another nightmare regarding other associations layer(s) like say for commercial or industrial in certain areas like along the coast say for instance the desalination plants scenario), they mainly need to see the structural engineering requirements signed off as there are manufacturer exceptions allowed albeit they need to meet whatever standards so to conform to code for not only safety... for health as well.
Gary K - if you wait for government agencies to make the 1st move you'll wait for ever. The first move come from the people. People with passion and innovation and the ability to think 'out of the box' The governmental agencies are 'the box'
Sounds good but you did not include a link to go to their site.
but but, how will the banks and insurance companies make money with houses that last GENERATIONS???
We don’t want to live in cluster tightly packed communities. We want to be spread far apart from our neighbors so we can enhance happiness peace wellness and safety in the community. This is a way better way to help lessen our impact on the environment. Less need for hard roads and neighborhood infrastructure.
Where is the factory? I would like to visit. I made my first dome model in 1960 in grade school but never made a living dome.
Where is the link if someone want to buy some of the domes
Does it have to be domes, or could the same techniques be used for more common building shapes?
Domes are more healthier than boxes.
Swarming and burrowing creatures build natural shapes which optimise airflow, and reduce fungal transmission.
You will never see a cube in nature. Dome heating and lighting properties are superior.
Ancient man built roundhouses, igloos, teepees, yurts, Hogans, etc etc. The Babylonians and Sumerians built cube rooms because they could pack more people into a smaller area..
This was the beginning of the BORG MATRIX.
In tornado disaster areas box shaped structures make great kites.
Domes are unaffected. Viva la Domica
No link to their website?
I wonder if these types of contructions can scale, there are many cities that are requiring more multi-family housing and these domes seems to go in the opposite direction. could these domes be scaled to fit multiple separate "apartments" inside?
Armando Martinez - check out 'EDEN project' in Cornwall UK. Your only limitation is your imagination
We are purposefully going in the opposite direction. The future is regenerative villages and permaculture forests that are one with the local ecosystems. For every wave, there is a counter wave.
What are your PRICES ? what are your shipping options?
Utopia....such a wonderful idea with an improbable possibility. Utopia completely disregards the individual and individual capacity/desire. All this history and we still don't learn. Closest thing we have to achieving utopia is the two great commandments.
Spelled as E..utopia ( Eutopia ) one gets a far less button pushing result .
Spelled as Eutopia it means " a good place "
Spelled " U ..topia " ( Utopia ) means " no place " which gosh ! ...seems to be where we're at !
Working with " moves in mysterious ways " also works along with...making things work for a hundred percent of humanity in the shortest possible time with the least inconvenience to anyone or ecological damage .
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No, bad idea! You can't hang a picture or buy furniture owning a dome. But a Dymaxion car? Now that's living!
Great efforts and focus on geodesic structures and other important issues including overall quality shelter that are sustainable. To help address these issues like in this video, there is a new proposed project that is tentatively named, Team Shelter, which is similar in concept like TeamSeas, and TeamTrees, but not exactly the same, and the new proposal is only in a development phase. The proposed project focuses on proactive efforts to address at least four main issues in the USA for many local communities, which include the local environment, available quality housing, care for the homeless or the temporarily displaced, and for a new concept called "combined accountability and opportunity factors".
GOALS & CONCEPTS: Team Shelter is seeking practical solutions and proactive improvements relative to a local community's specific needs in the following areas:
1. Local Environment - (it's Unique Offerings, Quality, Problems and Needs)
2. Available Quality Housing
3. Care or Assistance for the Homeless, and/or Temporarily Displaced.
4. Combined Accountability and Opportunity Factors. - (to all levels of society)
Also, a roll out of solutions can be on different phases from early development, pilot test, short-term, mid-term , long-term, and so on. As a brief reality check, it is important to remember that simply throwing money at a problem is not usually the best way to solve it. Instead, careful thought and consideration of feedback and a focus on long term opportunities are what really matter.
To help with further discussions on the proposal, there is a new group made on the MINDS platform to share links and ideas. #TeamShelter 'Team Shelter'
22:18 but what will the microfactory look like?
What is the cost and ROI on a microfactory?
I live in Washington state, have access to 150 acres of land in Oregan, interested in village life.
Just do it Randahl
I like the general idea...but its not cheap yet. Hard to beat a starplate dome kit for $110 covered with whatever, even cardboard and a tarp (temporarily, to create a for space inside the walls)..then fill with aircrete or magcrete,or cob or hempcrete of light straw clay, etc, then ferrocement the exterior or cover with latexcreted mesh. Many ways to do it, join multiple units together as runds perit, and since they also make ideal greenhouses and animal pens, a set of these bootstarts a whole homestead. Simple enough for one smallish woman to assemble on her own, even.
agree. $110k for 32' is astronomical. By the time you install everything else it is going to be as much as any other common house
With ... so far so Good ... in mind as a file title ...." Bio Ceramic and Geodesic " have given us the heart felt Eureka moment of first things first got this right one ever hopes to hear .
This makes our day .
No issues with Bio energetics that metal would have created .
No issues with electromagnetic thermal buildup .
A real solution correctly configured with an excellent beginning .
May post Singularity Intelligence translate monetary unit accounting to Real Economy sustainable renewable ecological energy unit accounting sense and amortize " capital cost " in energy units based on global numbers .
Go and visit a dome structure some where. Stand in the centre , close your eyes and see how you feel.
The sensation may surprise you.
What’s the company website?
problem is not the building it is the building code... single family dwellings
even on 0.1 acre ... 1 million homes still take up 100 thousand acres of farmland ... with a US population of 335 million... * 0.9 /3 means roughly 100.5 million acres of land that COULD be used for agriculture are used to house people in the most energy hungry way possible
great idea ... to bad it only works in a vacuum
Monokheros - build your own building code. 'Build it , and they will come'
Great ideas! , I would love to own such a home! However what I am hearing is a recipe for a LOT of pushback from established industries and their unions due to the bypassing of their intrenched profit generating methods. My hopes are that these will not be a hurdle you cannot get over.
Richard Buckminster Fuller.... FYI
when I think of the term "ceramic" FRAGILE (i.e. cracks easily) comes to mind. Are these structures "crack proof"?
I remember reading that they can be patched by applying the same material (as a liquid) to seamlessly fix & weather proof any cracks.
Also being likened to geopolymers & epoxies, this material combining the properties of those constituents ,
probably makes it hardier than concrete.
Agree, with today's fragile atmospheric conditions a structure literally needs to be bomb proof, can resist implosion, extreme pressure on the exterior .... Monolithic is the game changer for many years now. Has surpassed many extreme load tests, quakes, tornadoes, hurricane strength winds, major fires, TNT, ballistics, have been around for centuries and much more....polimars have many benefits except for the above. Would not want to be in one with 200 mph winds, a tornado or being pelted by volcanic rock projectiles ; - ))
@@thomaxtube so in other words, "No", they aren't Crack proof. Not the ceramic tile and not the supporting ceramic frame. In many places, code stipulates that all poured supporting structural material like concrete be reinforced with steel rebar. This guy is making his domes practically unmarketable to most of North America and Europe by insisting it be made entirely of a ceramic geopolymer for the support structure under many places current codes.
American Ingenuity has been making some homes 20+ years as has Monolithic Domes. Increased interest in using geo-polymers, graphene, ceramic beads basalt and hemp improve insulation R-values, strength, lightweight aircrete, and easy DIY. My wife and I have visited several manufacturing facilities and have been open minded with the concept. I still think you're going to be out-priced. Most people in the USA cannot wrap their head around the concept of dome loving. Zoning laws, community acceptance, restrictive loan policies and institutions are difficult to overcome... even more so than you figuring out your manufacturing facilities and production processes. So, I'd add that process be top priority alongside your other things to overcome.
NWflboy 007 - you nailed it when you said "most people in the USA can't get their head around dome living"
The MATRIX of control is Cuboid. It permeates our subconscious. That's why it is difficult to think out of the box.
Not just the USA but the whole Western world.
The first unit is to small for a single home. In my area 450 sq ft min to live in year round. That unit could only be used as a small vacation cabin. Not sure if they will be able to get started building the business focusing on such small units.
One word Ben..."ceramics"...
This is a cool idea, but the central planning committees will probably not give you permission to build this kind of home on your property because it doesn't conform to their limited imagination and it probably is not expensive enough to keep the poor people out of their zoning area.
Karlomarlo - 'what the eye doesn't see , the heart does not grieve'
After a structure has been standing for a length of time , and no one has raised a complaint. The authorities have limited power.
We dont need this guys, kind of tired of always need to ask for permission for anything. We are grown up already and should ourselves decive where we live or not live. Right?
Our area is prone to strong storms/typhoons. 2 a year is regular. How would this hold up?
my guess is pretty well: it's a solid, heavy object that is all well-connected with few overhanging parts to catch wind. but that's an uneducated guess
Tests have shown that domes stand up to Earthquakes, floods, and tornadoes better than other structure.
Spheres in general are the strongest structures that can be built with the least amount of material.
@@joedee1863 I've read that too. But this seems to be made to be light. How would this scale up to withstand strong winds? The one in the video looks like it'd get lifted up or torn apart by a storm.
@@Norbingel - try some experiments to convince yourself about aerodynamics. You can use water or air or both.
I have learned from years of camping in various shaped tents as to what shape stands up to the heavy winds.
. Ridge tents and other rectangles are like box kites. The sphere has the least drag.
Nature demonstrates this. The curved shapes in fish, birds, insects, plants, trees. Where in nature do you find a right angle ( 90 degree angle) ? A square or a cube ?
Air and wind erosion smooths rocks from sharp to round. Consider the shape of an egg and it's advantages.
Everywhere around the globe Ancient man has lived in round habitats.
In the American tornado belt all the cubic and rectangular buildings become airborne except the domes and round silos. Domes can always be firmed up if it's builders aren't confident about their structural integrity.
In the Indonesian islands you see on the news that so many box shape buildings get wrecked by storms .
Then they rebuild the boxes. They just don't get it.
@@joedee1863 fluorite crystals have right angles. Those are found in nature. If you want to go smaller. Many metals have square, or other angles that make up the building blocks for that metal. Yes, there are 90° angles in nature. Just have to know where to look
At $100,000 Base Price You Could Build A HEALTHY Home.
I am an experienced builder and would be interested in getting involved in building these. Can you put me in contact?
More information please! Love this concept!
Jesse - talk to me 😊
I like to have one to put in my mom's back yard....then I want have to sleep in my truck every night
If the city would allow it…
This looks like it might last 10years maybe
That’s if it gets off it’s feet
Message to Morgan Bierschenk the Ceramic Domes man
Tried to find an email or other contact for Morgan Bierschenk but after reading thru pages of searches I gave up.
The cost of these homes at 100k is very prohibitive.
25 ft high domes can be built for much less.
For years I have been developing models that use waste materials.
Six high frequency Hexagonal sections is what I work with, so frames are an easy size to handle.
My designs aren't angled like usual builds as each frame has a 90 degree end, and assembly requires fitting tapered shims to produce the curve. The structure is nailed, screwed, or bolted together.
This method can produce hex panels much easier and faster.
The structure build begins with an arch, then other semi arches making up the 6 x 60 degree main frame that supports the other hex frames.
The six struts that form the hexagon are T or I beams which increases the internal strength of each frame.
My designs don't have doors. They have external and internal stairs which increases security and structural integrity. The stair entrances can be concealed and covered by a platform mounted on a railway covered with potted plants and shrubs.
There is an external balcony on the second level accessible from the inside.
This forms a good emergency escape route also
The hexagon windows are positioned to allow diffused light to enter at the angles of the winter sun. The closed hex panels have photo-voltaic and passive solar heating cells which transfer heated water to a tank by thermal siphoning and then to underfloor heating on ground level.
The upper internal floor is the sectioned sleeping areas and ground floor is lounge, kitchen and work areas.
These large domes have smaller satellites and are arranged in a spiral mandala of about 12 -14 units. This gives a secure perimeter to the complex and a large open central area for community activities. Each mandala or groups of Mandalas form the communities.
No one owns any individual dome. The trust management administrates everything.
All the private coop members are trust beneficiaries. This also includes food production and utilities, etc.
As regards my patents for these designs and ideas they are free for all to use but my only concern is that some one may try to claim that my designs are their property and try to prevent me or others from implementing them.
Do you have any links to either your patents (or just the patent numbers) or some other visualizations of your designs?
I am interested in the potential to use these types of technologies to construct earth sheltered structures in a cold temperate climate (think John Hait/Mike Oehler).
Geoship has so many new technologies which need to come together for this to work - materials science, production technology, business model, construction code and other regulatory hurdles, financing, etc. I really would like to see them succeed. I am somewhat familiar with the materials science and engineering hurdles he faces (I can imagine solving these), but managing all of the social hurdles seems daunting. Whether they will be able to manage all of this in the same way as Tesla remains to be seen.
@@kevinolson1102 - i have 3d CAD and line drawings. Plus cardboard models. These are not available in the public domain as yet. I am currently finalising legal protection for these ideas.
This is a big departure from the 'burning man' structures I have erected over the years for festivals and public events. Those were tent frame style domes.
Like the ceramic dome structure my design is based on modular sections similar to portable bridges used by the military.
They could be erected in a day with a good team on the job. I have a few people interested once I get the training video complete it will be good to go.
Quite a number of people have built some amazing structures over the years that would rival any Earth ship design. I just wish I had downloaded them because for some reason they disappear. I think folks don't want the attention and regret they publicised it in the beginning.
There are off grid communities who don't want to draw attention to themselves for an idea that could be very revolutionary. Most off-grid structures are time consuming and labour intensive to build. however cheap components built on site with just a few tools, jigs, etc. are not a welcome idea by some powerful people, so caution is advised.
@@kevinolson1102 - I am assuming you have seen most underground dome videos online but here's a link to one of my favourites.
ua-cam.com/video/RoGuvvzHY1A/v-deo.html
@@joedee1863 Yes, I'd seen this one, but thanks for making sure. The home profiled in your link is along the lines of what I've been noodling on, though I'm thinking of something smaller, at least initially - a cozy hobbit hole of a place.
The Oehler type PSP structures are inexpensive to build, as long as there are trees to be had cheaply, but Paul Wheaton's experiments have shown that the posts and wall poles can both be prone to rot within a few years. Replacement is not impossible, but can be tricky.
Consequently, some form of durable masonry structure (the phosphate ceramics used by Geoship and geopolymers both fall into that category, to my way of thinking) seem like a better option. I know structural tile (Catalan or Guastavino tile) can be used - there's ample longstanding historical precedent. Masonry geodesic structures seem to be another viable alternative. I want to experiment with using weak organic acids - acetic, citric and oxalic, singly or in combination - to try to "activate" the clays in my local soil, to see if I can create an inexpensive geopolymer binder with the available materials.
I hope to be able to tinker with catenary vaults made of snow this winter, created with an Icebox igloo maker, a simple slip form system. Though the resulting structures are ephemeral - lasting until the spring melt, at most - it is a cheap way of gaining a good working knowledge of vault and dome construction. Or so I hope!
Thanks again for the link.
@Kevin Olson - thanks Kevin for comparing notes and it appears that you've been travelling down the same routes as me in terms of designs and materials. The igloo icebox block idea is interesting. One guy designed and built a portable compacter to take from site to site and compacted Earth and a small amount of cement to produce a very strong block a bit like rammed Earth. He created orifices in the block like Lego and on assembly added the 2 inch thick connecting pieces that were cemented in place. This produced very cheap strong blocks that unskilled workers could lay very quickly because it used very little mortar. No one has built a part submerged round structure with this method (as far as I know) but it would be interesting to see someone have a go.
In the film 'Tremors' Burt Gummer builds an underground bunker which gets compromised by the villain but I reckon an underground r o u n d rammed Earth block structure would have been much harder to penetrate and would have cost a lot less. Successive walls with loose sand or dirt in between (to absorb impact) and the structure would be bomb proof. I was a materials tester for a company making blocks and bricks and bomb proof fuel dumps for the military and used additives in the concrete to aerate it (like foam) to give it more resilience.
These are cheap solutions that negate the use of steel reinforcement and produced very strong structures very quickly.
I wish there was a forum for dome and underground structure enthusiasts. Such an idea sharing interest group would generate some amazing possibilities.
Imagine the Earth bag enthusiasts and every other experimenter coming together and sharing ideas and experiences ! How awesome would that be ?
They say "build a better model and you make the old one obsolete".
That would be the end of the mortgage industry 😊
Sounds expensive
How structurally strong is it??? Meaning how does it stand up to say Tornados, Hurricane’s, and or Earthquakes???? But mostly tornados??? I know that the Monolithic Domes are the strongest domes and can withstand a direct hit of an F5 Tornado and it wouldn’t be damaged at all.
I don't know for sure but the makers say it's super-strong. Also, I think the shape is more resistant to wind than flat walls.
I bet that large ceramic domes would make ideal outer-space dwellings and Martian and Moon dwellings. Contact SpaceX.
The picture is without apparent insulation for cold climates. Please address these issues.
Can you imagine where the insulation will go ?
Some have built these under the Earth, and don't know what winter is 😊
@@joedee1863 Under the earth? Are you suggesting placing dirt over that tiny tube frame and fabric?
I do not know about your ceramic. Solve problem of Tall Dome: Pute up 8 sided frame. Put plywood on top. Start approximation of dome. Then smaller 8 sided above with Plywood on top. Continue approximation of dome. Third floor and complete top of dome. Use Triangulation as much as posible.
Ceramics comes from air, or it is mined...
WHATS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY ? (sorry I missed it !)
Geoship 🙂
26 minutes....... The video needs editing to get to the key point. I would be interested but concerned about cost and small size.
So can we order these now, or not? If yes, how to order them, because the companies website has zero information on it. If No, when can we order them? So tired of YT and companies links keep sending us back and forth!
AFAIK they have a limited demo period in which investors can get one. They're not at commercial scale yet.
Buckminister Fuller... Justt read a book about the man who started this design. For the most part...
Joints caulking isn’t ceramic
How about silicon caulking ? Or cover the joints with other materials as many other dome makers have done
The ordinary person and practically all of architects since Bucky have voted against the dome notwithstanding the truths associated with structural supremacy.
The square is the hit with humans generaly,not the equilateral triangle even though nature and natural forces prefer the triangle even at an atomic level.
Top architects incorporate those ideas.
Beginners focus on architypes even if they are economically a no go.
Changing public preferences cannot be done without billions of investment and even then there is high risk.
By researching all the people who have tried that it is clear that compromise has been the only way to provide shelter and even that is very difficult from a balance sheet perspective.
Wrong choices by the public can be ubiquitous unfortunately.
Designed to last 500 years. Ceramic anything should last thousands of years. So what did they do to shorten the lifespan?
:-) it has windows ... accidents happen ... trees fall ... I'm not sure, but maybe it will outlive the 500 years
Try getting a bank to loan you the money for this. Probably unlikely.
$160/sq ft is not very affordable and shipping the kits will add to that cost.
There are people like me who don’t like people, I have Asperger syndrome and prefer being alone. What are we to do about a home?
Hadassah - go and visit a few off-grid communities. There is a place there for the hermits, the sanyasis, the Gregarious and glorious. Spiritual , communities that promote healing of mind, body and spirit.
Hadassah if you have Aspergers then your condition could provide a solution.
All those I have ever known with your condition are inventive, resourceful, and relentless when it comes to problem solving.
neat but to much green talk carbon is not a bad element nore is oil in its self just more silliness
The ownership model is overly complicated and could sink the project all by itself. If I want to buy a microfactory, I would want full ownership and control over my investment without some co owner needlessly complicating the project.
Please someone help me make strong amphibious sphere homes and amphibious vehicles and halloween stuff.
Is this project dead?
Poor peiple will not have the money, to buy one. Therefore it would be good, if you would use your know how and design cheap domes, using bamboo.
110k for 1000Sqft For that price concrete homes is a much better deal
This guy needs to get Elon Musk involved.
I don't subscribe to the anthropogenic climate change hoax, and carbon neutrality is a belly laugh. However, I do appreciate frugal and resilient construction that doesn't consume a lot of resources to build and maintain.
I can see cultists living in these on some compound away from the eyes of authority
I can see free people living in compounds away from the eyes of cultist authority
What makes them have only a 500 year life span everything we are making now should be engineered to last thousands of yours. Should be do able. Open source the tech and start selling manufacturing equipment and it will take off.
better live in a pyramid
@@johnkoetsier how did you guess my superconducting structure of choice it's a good thing I'm good at the levitation of stone. Then if you don't believe in that look up the coral castle probably made with a dude with an engine hoist but you get the idea. Man if only if only we could make a domes that lasted for millennia. But actually I think your comment is a hot tip we need to cut the granite with machine tools to make panels to build domes If we just cut them flat we then could achieve the angles later..... Lol yeah I hope the hundredth monkey doesn't grab this one but shit I should have on UA-cam a UA-camr could notice UA-camr if you're reading this you need to build a dome out of granite cuz I don't think I'm going to do it each panel has to be light enough that you can pick it up with an engine hoist which is the smallest crane you can buy I need to do engineering calculations solidworks now. It really is cheating
You didn't calculate the carbon footprint of cooking ceramic... Unless you live near a live volcano or some zero carbon emission oven, these must be very expensive to produce. I've seen some aircrete constructions similar to the ones shown here and they seem to have no carbon footprint at all except maybe in the production of mortar and transportation of materials. These remind me of hobbit houses, cool looking yet you can't build these where they have a strict code of urbanism. 🛎
🤦🏽♂️ They are not cooking ceramic.
@@veen88 You mean the ceramic they use is precooked. By definition is a material made out of clay and that has to be heated to high and hot fire... Therefore leaving a stong carbon footprint. They invented the highest qhality while sending rockets to space... Talk about leaving a carbon footprint in the atmosphere. ❤🔥💫🚀
you will have a business model that supported thru the federal state local and gov stakeholders... if you cannot get a FEDERAL STATE AND OR LOCAL INVESTMENT AND GRANTS... you can forget about it.... muti - small- local state/holders are not going to do it...
Build a better model and make the old one obsolete.
"Build it ...and they will come"
Didn't Kanye start something like this?
lol
yes stick to the old hippy days and call it a geospace dome yeah why not, ...
no need to make it palatable for the rest of the buyers
Dale Ticket - those living in dome habitats are keeping a low profile. They're not interested in those of little faith. They're too busy celebrating life away from the great disconnect.
This guy is a buzzword master
So it’s plastic. Stop saying it’s it’s good for the environment when it’s plastic.
??? it's ceramic
Want dystopia? Vote blue. The End.
"It's a new family of materials"
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Well, there is nothing new about ceramics. They have been around for thousands of years.
So, you are calling this 'ceramic', but it does not fit the definition of ceramic we have been using.
You should have created a new word for this type of material, rather than using a well-defined word we have been using for literally thousands of years.
Blah, blah, blah
Show me
Nature builds dome and round shapes everywhere
Only humans build cubes.
Ceramic domes??? That's hilarious! Everyone and their ceramic, just to drive up the price, when in reality its just spray on concrete.... seems like a great idea. Let's have 20 people living in 1 dome, and they can share everything! Didn't work so well for the hippys.....dude, their are other companies so far ahead, like 40 years ahead of affordable prefabricated dome homes that are just as emmisions friendly, so sick of hearing all these buzz words like zero emmisions! It's all bullshit to sell you an overpriced house that will be no more "emmisions free" than any other concrete dome home or even wood for that matter! god speed with your 60,000 pounds of ceramic! 🤣
Seams like a scam.
1. Bricks are ceramic
So you can just build a house out of brick and get the same life span.
2. The beginning of the video suggests that "this product" solves housing, mental health, saves the environment, and fixes society.
Wow what a sales pitch.
You will be greatly disappointed.
3. There's nothing beneficial or better of building a round/dome house. You will literally have 0 furniture.
Because it's all made for square homes.
So everything is going to have to be custom, aka expensive.
4. They say it's cheap, but that doesn't include mechanicals, furniture, insulation, or land to put it on.
$160 a square foot × 2,500 sq. ft. (Typically American new home) = $400,000 not including land.
Not cheap
I get your points. However I would not call it a scam but a bad business idea. Brick houses will last for hundreds of years (even thousands), are cheap, easy to build yourself with a few workers helping and are tested millions of times in the real world.
They are a company who want to sell you a overpriced product, nobody really needs, but people who want to feel special and unique.
@@hlw1306 On top of that I'm also interested in the maintenance. Since there's less flat surfaces, does this mean I will spend less time wiping off the dust from window sills and give more work for the Roomba? 😉 I'm assuming roof plumbing and downpipes won't be required, does that mean I will spend less time and less money cleaning them and the roof? etc. etc.
I do agree that the price isn't on the cheap side but if there are these maintenance wins, I'd totally take it up because the costs of maintenance every year on traditional homes can be significant.
@@hlw1306 why would it be better then brick?
Brick is ceramic.
Also theses domes aren't warrantied against earthquakes and fires.
It hasn't been tested for earthquakes, but you're assuming it can withstand one?
That's insane.
Don't believe marketing and hype.
@@mountainbikerdave Dome structures are generally stronger against earthquakes when compared like-for-like with traditional rectangular-shaped homes without any additional earthquake-proofing techs installed. The difference is there's less research into making dome structures even more earthquake proof. This is how I ended up here. I wasn't researching Geoship, I was researching dome structures in terms of stability and insulation.
I was already thinking about less 'blocky' structures, like window sills that are angled so dust don't sit on it but considering dust also gathers on my standing full-length mirror, I wasn't sure that would really work. Failing that, if we can get Roomba that goes up the wall and ceiling, that would be great.
To choose a dome structure, you have to really take a 90 degree turn in your thinking so I'm not sure why people are so concerned about this being a 'hype'. It's not something the majority of people will get into because of the limitations in vertical space, the perceived loss of space and therefore resell value.
Geoship is pioneering this, which I consider to be a good thing. Their experiment will provide us with more concrete data on what's actually possible with dome structures. I probably wouldn't build my whole house dome-shaped but having parts of the house built as a dome is not too far-fetched. It's a bit like my transition to induction cooktop at the moment, I ran both traditional gas and induction in the kitchen now. This way I get to learn how each method is suitable for me, how I'll need to adapt some of my cooking methods for induction and whether I can live with the trade-off.
Skip ahead to 26:15. A total waste of time.
Live in a dome homie for ten years then come back and tell people it is more efficient..... Bs
There are some who have been living in their dome habitats a lot longer than ten years. But chose not to tell people about it. That's why you don't know about it.