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Man this was dissapointing, also can you and your friend do "Let's watch" on Eleanor's Secret [2009] - [French - Kerity La Maison Des Contes]
That French-Italian animated feature film
It would be a perfect time for film to get noticed!
Jeffrey Katzenberg wants money.....just more sequels to every DreamWorks like Megamind .......gimme the flash grenade so I can throw it at Jeffrey 😂
Will use it in a few years, thanks.
Hey Saberspark, I have a movie request for you to review
It’s called A Monster in Paris
"I was too small to learn kung fu"
There's a literal fucking mantis that mastered it
She also mentioned being weak. Since she lives in Juniper and the movie discusses the dragon warrior and furious 5 being lesser known etc. I think her being a runt and not respected is due to the city she was in. The city seemed more violent etc and had lots of gangs. From the flashbacks we see of Zen it seems the smaller you are the less you get respect. I think Chameleon only discovered about the valley of peace after turning to evil.
Inconsistency
AND a freaking Chicken!
Sounds like a skill issue.
@@M_.M979 The director basically
Something I haven't seen anyone criticize this movie for is Kai's appearance. Po obliterated his spirit in the spirit realm. He had NO reason to show up.
There is a reason. The Plot
I also Readed a comment that said that not even sheng should be here since he died because of the crush of the cannon, he didn't got sented to the Spirit Land because Po didn't scadushed him NOR he finded inner peace.
"Bu-Bu-But FANSERVICE!" :P
Wait... you're right! I didn't even think about it!
Fr like atleast it would’ve been fine for tai lung return and it’s kinda crucial to the generic plot? Still general Kai and shen were in the movie FOR NO REASON chameloen barely used their abilities
Shifu saying his last goodbye to tai lung would have had put me in tears
Same
Same here. But it was a missed opportunity
Do you have any idea how ICONIC that scene would be!?
This fourth movie could have been an amazing bow on top of an already amazing trilogy. But no. It felt like it was a bunch of episodes of some limited series mashed together.
I would choke and sob so hard, but also scream how adorable they look, fluffly hug i need more of that in life
Bruh, tell me about it. Such a fkin waste.
This movie felt more like fanfic than an actual sequel
The actual sequel was KFP 3 and it had the best conclusion of the Kung Fu Panda trilogy. I agree that the "fourth" movie is nothing but a fan fiction.
Even fanfictions are better than this absolute dumpster fire
Look at the Chameleon, everything about her screaming "Villain sue OC"
Defeating Tai lung, Lord Shen and Kai effortlessly? Bruh
She doesn't even understand that Lord Shen is an Inventor/Cannoneer with fighting ability not a kungfu master
The reason Y Tailung, Shen, and Kai, (along with many others), quickly 😢 "lost their powers" / "had their powers stolen from them" was due to the "efficiency" of Chameleon's art of "replication" that t could've been overcome by (nevermind Po, who defeated the 1st 3 villains) but Chameleon could've been defeated by any of the previous 3 villains since you're versing yourself in a long, drawn-out battle.
All the way to the Mary Sue OC with a sad backstory
The worst part is that KFP 4 and Megamind 2 could have genuinely been masterpieces if DreamWorks had gone about it properly. The greed of money corrupts.
clueless* money corrupts
@Benny20026 Not really a hard thing to accomplish tbh.
Megamind 2 maybe but Kung Fu 4, I feel like they were milking too much when they got to 4.
There was a Megamind 2? I legit just now found out.
@@Rick586no there isn’t it’s not canon
Its sad when you first find out a plot point and instantly think of a better one. How about instead of "Chameleon's too small to learn kung fu" it's "She's sick of people valuing Kung Fu over magic and steals Kung Fu with magic to make her point that one's better than the other"
Exactly. Or maybe she came from a family of kung fu masters she couldn't live up to, or other masters saw her powers as cheating and cowardly. Like this isn't that difficult just give your script a second draft.
That's so much better.
That's so much better
Honestly they were just trying to get a quick cash grab
Honestly your idea is so much better.
The villain said and I quote”they said I was to small, to weak to to be taught” AND YET ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS IS A LITERAL PRAYING MANTIS???
watch SOTS
I didn't watch the movie yet but I hope he was standing there when she said that 😂 would completely be funny
Why find a new dragon warrior?
Unless a lot of time has passed since Po became it, it seems a bit short lived. Also, why at all?
It's not like there was a chain of them, passing the title from one to the next; it was literally a destiny situation.
Oogway was Oogway, Shifu was Shifu. Others were literally passed over to be the dragon warrior until Po, _the chosen one,_ bumbled in.
The whole plot point just seems kinda dumb.
Instead it could've been similar to the suggestion here. The Five get sent off to do stuff, Po is doing Po things, and- oh no! Shifu's been stolen by the new evil!
Po meets Awkwafox, they make friends, go find the evil, maybe some betrayal happens, Po saves day.
Need more drama? _Maybe_ Shifu faces mortal danger and dies in some way related to the dead guys coming back, thus forcing Po into a new teacher position, so foxy gets brought on in the end as a new student. Bam, standard beats, but better than... *~gestures vaguely~*
"Shifu's been stolen" 😂
Look im not even saying it’s a terrible idea the movies have always shown po progressing from student, to master, to teacher so to become some kinda spiritual leader makes sense but why not make this movie about like tigress becoming the next dragon warrior or even just make tai king have an actual redemption arc and become what he was promised like this movie has basically none of the character nuance from the original trilogy it might as well have been a tv movie
@@Cashmoneez I don't think Tigress should be Dragon Warrior. She specifically wasn't chosen and doesn't posess the necessary personality/mindset that is needed for the job. She does much better as an individual warrior. Besides, the movie would be hella boring because therr's nothing Po can really teach her and they already like each other a lot. It had to be a new character for the sake of the movie.
I personally think it should've been anither Panda, though. They went through all the hustle of making pandas something special, why not use that?
It's the same thing Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker was teaching Padawan Ahsoka Tano even tho he isn't Jedi Master and he didn't want at first but after one adventure, he saw she's like him when he started so he accepted it.
Hear me out someone, this movie could've used Po’s stagnation sort of to its benefit. The Chameleon could've been a reflection of Po from the first movie, filled with self-loathing and her shapeshifting powers could've been a reflection of not being able to accept who she is. Po’s journey of becoming a spiritual leader could be figuring out how to impart that same wisdom he learned when he finally opened the dragon scroll, accepting and believing in himself. This concept feels so obvious and entertaining idk how they missed this.
They actually could have redeemed a villian for the first time by having Chamilian's self dought hurt her adopted daughter. That the daughter also feels that way as a result. Po seeing himself in them both helps them heal. Such a waited opertunity.
And would have been a good way to come full circle with the series, him imparting the wisdom he learned to another who needed it. That way they could pass it down to others who need it as well.
Y'all should get hired
I think you got the main
point of the 4th movie actually. Sad that people focus more on the missing elements that don’t really matter. Except Kai being there. One inconsistency.
Just that it could have been used more.
Chameleon: NoNe oF tHe MasTeRs WoUld TraiN mE BecAuSE I wAs tOo smaLl tO lEaRn KuNg Fu.
Viper and the snake clan, Mantis, and Master Chicken:🧍♂️
Master Frog & Master Lizard (Jade Palace Statues KFP3): 🗿
And scorpion and shifu and… I’m sorry, why was this a issue again?@@SiNKarnage
Hello Master Shifu?! That dude is tiny but he kicks so much @ss!
Master chipmunk
Master Crab
the fact that they were considering putting humans in the movie- live action humans. why and how did anyone think it was a good idea to give a guy who clearly had no respect or experience with the KFP universe full control? like... what?
Ikr, it seems like every animated movie has to have a live action integration
Chameleon's motive made legit 0 sense. To be written smoother, her backstory could've been a central plot point of the movie and Po's 4th test: Mastery of Self. The Chameleon could've been born into a life of discrimination and bullying, as perhaps in this universe, chameleons are naturally demeaned since their one gimmick is putting on the face of another person. Chameleon was ruined by this and hates herself for it; so because she despises herself so much, she becomes addicted with her shapeshifting abilities in a quest to demand respect via force, and that force comes in the form of turning into powerful individuals. When she becomes empress, she could seek to tap into the Spirit Realm to steal the face and powers of the most skilled opponent, which is undoubtedly Tai Lung.
She should've only brought him back, so Kai and Shen wouldn't clump up screen time and to give Tai Lung a proper redemption arc with him reconciling with Shifu, becoming Dragon Warrior, and while not liking Po, forgiving him. Instead... we got this mess of a movie.
❤
Good idea bro
it would genuinely be such a good movie if Tai Lung became the dragon warrior instead.. but I suppose he's kinda dead
@@judesliggoo he got skadooshed
Shen: *Commits Genocide*
The Chameleon: *Pushes someone down the stairs*
Shen was such an awesome villain.
I think the Chameleon has been watching too much of those GoAnimate videos.
Tai lung the legend
@@jonahboris6681tai lung the legend
Instead of building Chameleon up as being the most powerful and threatening, they should have focused on her jilted feelings and relationship with her daughter.
KFP4: "I feel like I forgot something."
Dreamworks: "If you forgot, then it wasn't important."
KFP4: "Yeah, you're right."
The Furious Five:
I imagine them standing outside of the room peering in and waving to get executives attention
the furious five weren't added because of budget reasons, thats why they're shoehorned at the end without their voices.
@@sporeboy67 they could have at least used their VAs from the TV show
@@sporeboy67 I made this joke before watching the video.
Props to the artists for having the movie's fans in mind.
They were in the movie
To give the film some credit, it does try to fake you out about Zhen being Chameleon's adopted daughter, by quickly introducing the head of the thief guild who was her previous parental figure before Chameleon, and establishing unresolved drama between Zhen and him.
They did this right after revealing she was adopted, and her master and her's relationship was strained.
Honestly, when i heard that Po had to choose the next dragon warrior, i expected to give the title to Tai Lung. Maybe not yet, but after a redemption arc and after realizing his own mistakes fighting his demons.
But no, let's give the title to the thief.
exactlyyyy before finding out that it was Chameleon and not Tai Lung I was so excited to see how they could bring redemption for the most iconic villain in the entire series but noooo they brought out a half-baked joke of a villain who has literally nothing new or interesting about her...I would've loved to see a good female villain from KFP but this entire movie was a cash grab 🤦🏻♀️
KFP ended after 3. Po is now a master teaching others instead of being a dreamer wanting to fight alongside his heroes. End of story. Goodnight. Coffee is in the pot for morning.
Agreed. Let’s all just forget KFP4 exists.
Inevitable that they agreed to have 6 films in the Kung Fu Panda franchise in 2010
And you could even do movies in that universe, nust not about poe, again. maybe a romance of viper and mantis, wait did mantis have a love interest, , viper and monkey? , i dont know. something.
Being delusional won’t stop KFP4 from existing.
@@thehevandragon Burning Dreamworks, every last copy of the film, and all who have seen or heard of it might tho.
“Po’s greatest enemy” my ASS. Logically, it would be Shen since he has a major role in Po’s past. The Chameleon was half baked before she even came out of the oven
I mean if they wanted to have her use that as her schtick then it could actually work - her schtick is stealing anyway so maybe having her do that to, I dunno, try to be more impressive or demand respect or something could be fine, but given that Po literally tried to forgive the dude who committed genocide on his species, he'd almost certainly just brush it off.
_Unfortunately..._
I keep seeing this on every Kung Fu Panda 4 movie review 😭😭
@@whentherookbirdsingsSAME, I thought I was tripping
@@lepreking REAL
The Chameleon is just this weekend's villain
DreamWorks Management: "Kung Fu Panda 4 was not meant to be a good movie, that was not my fault!"
The Fans: "Not your fault?! Who filled my head with dreams! Who promised me a redemption arc for Tai Lung! Who denied me the movie for eight years!"
DreamWorks Management: "It was never my decision to make!"
The Fans: "*ROAR OF OUTRAGE*"
*pausing when we see the plans for kung fu panda 5*
The Fans: "...It is now"
*Battle continues*
The Fans: "GIVE... US... A BETTER MOVIE!"
DreamWorks Management: "I would rather die!"
I can hear this scene
Why didn't the chameleon just steal Po's Kung Fu (the best in the world) and took over everything? And then Po had to teach Zhen Kung Fu and in turn realized its not some magic power but a skill that with a good teacher can help you excel and add your own tricks to it. Then it pans to Sifu and Po says "I had a great teacher teach me that" (audience of teachers cries*).
"Apparently, Shifu and Tai (Lung) were supposed to have a finally "goodbye" moment together !"
Oh.
There is no words to express how much saddened i am.
When they showed him meditating in the end I was fully prepared for it .. he was saying “ inner peace .. inner peace “ with little pause … but then Po’s gag instead .. that honestly annoyed me ..
Yep.. why they changed that? I just can’t understand most of the movie
This movie should have been about Tai Lung. And there is no changing my mind about it.
My re-write of the movie.
"The movie starts with the Chameleon,who wanted to learn KungFu but wasn't good at it,opening the doors of the spirit realm with a spell,a spell that only lasts for a short time,and she brings out Tai Lung.
After an amazing fight scene,(this fight scene was possible because Tai Lung wasn't the first KungFu Master she brought back,she had already stolen the KungFu of the first Master's she brought back),she finally succeeded in taking Tai Lung's KungFu,but before she locked him up, Tai Lung managed to escape,but he overheard the Chameleon talking about needing the staff Oogway give to Po,that she heard it has the power to open the gates of the Spirit Realm,that she desperately needs the staff so she can permanently open up the gates and steal the rest of the Master's their KungFu,Tai Lung then decides that he (as much he hates to admit it) needs Po's help to stop the Chameleon and get his Kung Fu back.
Then we cut to Po and Shifu (the plot of Po needing a new successor doesn't exist). Shifu tells Po that he will be retiring soon because his old age is finally started to get to him,and that when it does he will make Po the new Grandmaster of the Jade Palece,Po is conflicted,while he knows that he had to eventually take Shifu's place,he thinks he is not ready yet too be the leader of the Valley of Peace.
Tai Lung finally shows up. The Furious Five surrounded him and started to attack him,Tai Lung has managed to block some of their attacks (muscle memory) but was obviously struggling to hold them off. The Five finally beat him. But Tai Lung was not done yet,he knows he can't fight as he used to since he doesn't have his KungFu anymore,but he still demands the Five to call Po because he needs to talk to him.
When Po shows up after Crane delivery the news of Tai Lung return, he asked Tai Lung how he got out from the Spirit Realm and why he is looking for him,Tai Lung tells him that the Chameleon brought him back and stole his KungFu ,then process to tell Po what he overheard about the Camaleon's plans and that he needs his help to stop her,Po at first thought it was a trick,but he soon realizes that Tai Lung was telling the truth (because before Tai Lung showed up,Po had his first vision from the universe about a sorcerer,the spirit realm and China potential downfall),he thought it was just a bad dream but now Tai Lung is here confirming his vision to be truth,and so Po decided to help him.
They go together on the journey to the Camaleon's hideout,and in the journey Po started to open up to Tai Lung about how he wished that things would have turned out differently the day they fought,and how he would have offered to help him,he even tells him that to this day,Shifu still beats himself for failing him and for not realizing sooner what he was turning him into,Tai then confess on a moment of vulnerability (him finding out that even in death Shifu hasn't forgotten about him and still loves him,and he genuinely started to like the small yet odd friendship he and Po started to have) that on his time in the spirit realm he reflected on his actions (with Ogways help mind you),he was so blinded by hurt and anger for those 20 years,that he hasn't fully process what he was doing at the time,that he didn't care about the damage he was causing at the moment,he wanted the title he was denied to have,but above else he wanted Shifu to be proud of him,and because of it he had done an unforgettable damage to everyone that he now regrets.
This comment is long already so long story short,they fought the Chameleon together,restored Tai Lung and the rest of the masters their KungFu,Tai Lung with a new perspective,thanks Po for helping and that Oogway was right when he chose him to be the Dragon Warrior ,and he apologized to Shifu for everything he had done,and that he hopes to see him on the other side and start over,Tai Lung returns to the Spirit Realm,year's later Shifu passed away and he reunites with Tai Lung in the Spirit Realm,and Po becomes the new Grandmaster and leader of the Valley of Peace."
That's the best I came up with, there are other plots fans came up for the fourth movie that are absolutely amazing though,so I say that the fans came up with stories better than what the movie gave us.
@@vertraeumtemoeweBlame Mike Mitchell for making this movie the way it is.
Ok, now I’ve gone from mildly disappointed to genuinely upset.
Tai Lung: Tests Po’s physical prowess
Shen: Test’s Po’s mental prowess
Kai:Tests Po’s spiritual prowess
Chameleon: Tests nothing audience’s patience.
Her motivation makes no sense and the most evil thing she does, Shifu already did to Po in the first movie. She can have the combined power of all the villains, but she's undoubtedly the weakest of the franchise.
Got that right.
Your god-damn right.
So true.
Chameleon: "No one would teach me Kung Fu because I'm too small, so I turned evil."
Me: [clears throat] *"M A N T I S !"*
@@bionicdragon5 for real! Another issue I see with Kung Fu Panda is that they just don't care about the Furious Five's existence. Like Mantis and Viper are both pretty darn small. If anything they drop previously made characters pretty quickly.
Like after I saw the fox character being introduced and everyone was kinda not liking her character design nor really thrilled over her I just figured they had left out many previous characters and fox girl is gonna join them if they make another movie or show.
tbh the biggest things that got me, in this movie is: The pacing being too fast, Kai being brought from the Spirit realm when in Kung Fu Panda 3 his soul was literally obliterated from the inside out, and the Furious 5 not getting a bigger role, though their training montage at the end was quite epic.
Awkwafina is the death knell of any animated film...I havent seen her voice a film that was a worthwhile experience.
Bad Guys and Migration: Are we a joke to you
@AmericaFuckYeah4 ah, shame... can't hear their argument over the noise caused by Kung-fu Fu Panda 4 and The Little Mermaid.
@SarahSmith-sp8gg That's not Awkwafina's fault it's the Directors
@@AmericaFuckYeah4 I agree with this. I' a bit sick of hearing her voice everything at this point, but The Bad GUys and Migration were good. To me, she also sounded slightly less "Awkwafina" than usual.
@@UnboxingAlyss If people can handle Marge Simpson's voice they can handle Awkwafina aswell. Also at least casting Awkwafina is better than casting Rachel Zeigler because at least Awkwafina is kind and funny actress while Rachel Zeigler is the opposite
Shen isn't a kung-fu master and was FLATTENED by a boat mast, and Kai's spirit was eviscerated, how the HYUCK were they in the spirit realm??
Plot… I cant think of any other reason
His appearance frustrated so much. He wasn't a kung fu master that's why he built the canons. And him BOWING before Po because he respects him as the dragon warrior? NO!!
Tai Lung, yeah. Kai, maybe...
Shen. NO!!
He tried to get rid of kung fu and tried to kill all the pandas for pete's sake!
I agree with almost everything but of course shen is in the spirit realm?? The spirit realm is like the after life in this movie???
It raises so many questions for the plot inconsistency
@@EvieRawlingsI KNOW THAT BOTHERED ME SO DAMN MUCH!! Shen would NEVER bow to ANYONE, let alone Po! He literally committed genocide to get rid of him and was defeated in the most humiliating way, being crushed by a boat mast. Shen would have IMMEDIATELY tried to kill Po as soon as he escaped the spirit realm. And that's another thing, WHY IS SHEN EVEN IN THE SPIRIT REALM!? Does everyone who dies go there, or do you have to be sent there from another person? Or do you have to know magic to open portals? It makes no sense!
Entire first film: Po learning kung fu despite his implied limitations due to body shape, and converting his perceived weakness into a strength along with mantis, snake, etc doing the same.
4th film: Ye, lizards can't do kung fu cause they're not the right shape for it mate. Also we're knocking off early for the evening so don't forget to imagine your own extra plot details!
Plot inconsistency. Never let Mike Mitchell cook anything ever again
Honestly, they could've played into that as a villain character, like she doesn't understand how they can do it so seamlessly while she's never even really put in the true effort needed
@@chrisbacon1275 That sounds like an interesting idea!
@@EvokerInvokerble agreed. Bro damn well cooked the blandest shit ever 😭
Tai lung:i wanted to be the dragon warrior
Shen:i will commit genocide and make everyone bow for me in china or smth
Kai:i wanted to be the strongest so i become the chin stealer
🐍:i just turn into some random people or steal kung or smth
She want to best best at kung-fu.
Imagine if Po make her dragon warrior instead of fox.
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Could have had a fun buddy cop movie with Po and Tai Lung rescuing Shifu but noooooooo
Now that would've been better
I would’ve LOVED a badass scene of both Tai Lung and Po using their strengths and different fighting styles during a battle. Tai would look at Po and think “even though you kicked my ass before, I think you might be a worthy fighter” or something along those lines. The banter would’ve been PERFECT
I would have killed for that. Po struggling with the idea of no longer being the dragon warrior with someone who had to let go of that idea a long time ago
@@yazminmendez6459Could chameleon be actually strong enough to need both Tai Lung and Po’s abilities together to defeat her?
@@leyte68 She would be if they wrote her to be strong enough
My biggest complain about Kung Fu Panda 4:
- Where are the furious 5?!
- Why did Po has to quickly find his successor anyway? Oogway is a walking bone before he choose Po...
- And Po has to pick his successor with several random people?
- The main villain is defeated in only two hits?
- After freed, all the villains just suddenly respect Po, why?
- What happen to the underground people? there's no closure for that
- Why did they make the Dragon Warrior like a nobody know? in the last 3 movies they centered around the dragon warrior like everybody knew him.
- There's not much growth for Po in this movie compared to the other.
They literally said in the movie where the furious five are though, and they appear in the end credits
I had this really cool idea I hoped they were going to do were they took the main villain from the first film and had him redeem himself, then Po gives him the Dragon Warrior position once he really realizes what Kung Fu means and that even if the Kameleon took it from him he still has it in him
All good points! The finding a successor thing seemed forced like they had no other ideas. Now there will be no more movies with him as the dragon warrior.
ALL I CARED ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT TAI LUNG WAS REDEEMED!!!
They didn't want to pay the expensive voice actors since the movie had such a low budget.
This movie was basically "WE NEED GIRL BOSS POWER TO MAKE A NEW GIRL BOSS CHRACTER TO REPLACE THE TOXIC MASCULINITY PANDA!!! PUT A CHICK IN IT AND MAKE HER GAY!!!" - Cartman
If they wanted to make Zhen be The Chameleons daughter, they should have made the story a parallel to Po’s.
Instead of a Dragon Warrior with a loving parent, they could have shown what could happen if someone with that power instead has a manipulative parent.
Wasn't that basically the plot of one though?
Also Kai is dead-dead. He got sent to the afterlife and then his soul was destroyed there by Po's chi. So he isn't just banished to the spirit world, he has straight-up ceased to exist body and soul alike. SO HOW THE HELL IS HE HERE, ONLY TO DO NOTHING PLOT SIGNIFICANT OR EVEN GET ANY DIALOGUE
Somehow…..Kai returned.
@@uniqueness35fanofimginatio73 if that line was in the film, I am going to go bat shit crazy
Maybe Kung Fu Panda 5 forgets this happened and Awkwafina fox will be gone too
@@EvokerInvokerble Better yet, stop making another Kung Fu Panda sequel.
@@emperorfaiz They agreed to make the last 2. So we separate that as a sequel trilogy instead
Tigeress is the only one I would have accepted as his successor. That is after another couple films
I agree. Tigress not being the dragon warrior frustrated me so much.
Tigress was done dirty
Who invited the random fox to the party? Lol 😂
@@EvieRawlings i swear if thy don't remove shen im going to lose it
Or Tai Lung was a touch of redemption.
I needed this video so much. I have been searching far and wide for a video discussing the behind the scenes for kung fu panda 4 because I too was too much in the middle between whether this was a good movie or a bad movie and I need answers. Tysm you can be sure that I will 100% read those 30 pages of interview information
“The executives loved this idea. But…someone axed it.”
One idiot killed the best idea ever. Not a group of people.
Just one, to tear down a potential masterpiece.
The idea of Po trying to rescue Shifu from The Chameleon, and Shifu reconciling with Tai Lung at the end…
Oh my god…
Too good to be true.
And I’m so disappointed that the idea never came true.
All because of one idiot killing the best idea ever, bringing everything down.
The plot original was Shifu getting kidnapped by the villian and getting to say one final goodbye to Tai lung but got scrapped.
WHAT?!?!?!? WHO'S BRIGHT IDEA WAS IT TO DO THAT?
THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD IDEA TOO 😢😢😢
Are you kidding me fr 😒😞
Probably meddling studios that always ruin everything:/
Probably some woke writer.
I COULDVE CRIED TO THIS? SHIFU AND TAI LUNG?!?
Im saying this now.
Kung Fu Panda 5 has to have The Furious 5.
Better yet, they should just not make a kung fu panda 5
@@NixityNullttoo late. they're gonna make two more
@@SebsistButReal Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes of making this one (though that's probably being too optimistic).
@@NixityNullteven better, make the kfp 5 ABOUT the furious five
@@NixityNulltif they make 5th part I know you will start watching that
I had an idea for a motivation switch for Chameleon
Make it about how Juniper City had Kung Fu Masters sent in to help keep the peace, but instead they make it worse by fighting every chance they get. They preach peace but choose war. Those battles left Chameleon hopeless, homeless, and helpless. (Idk how to make it to where there’s a good reason for magic) but she wants to steal the one thing the masters actually care about, their Kung Fu. Po would be the exception, actually caring for the people. That ties in to him becoming a spiritual leader.
What do you think?
I really would have liked to have seen Po actually paving his own path for once. A lot of his growth and development had been stroked by others, and in this film especially he was being pushed by Shifu when he personally felt like he wasn't ready to move on. So it would've been nice to have a lesson somewhere about taking your future into your own hands. Especially after all the self-discovery he had in the other films. Or like, him accepting yes, this is a reality i need to face (choosing a successor) but not right now.
Unfortunately we might be entering an era where studio execs will be shilling out “good enough” films. Truly great films are going to become unicorns when they should be the standard.
I mean, if they're the standard that kinda makes them a lot less special.
If they're all great no one truly is.
@@matteomastrodomenico1231shut up 🙄
Yes it’s very unfortunate
time to support more indie projects
I would have loved to see that scene of Shifu saying goodbye to Tai Lung, the fact we didn't get that is heartbreaking.
Reading and watching all of these reviews after finally seeing the movie makes me realize how much worse this film was. It's just sad and extremely underwhelming.
Glad to see you make this video. I was worried this would be the case and will now be avoiding the movie till it's on streaming and even then I might not watch it. If I can help it I try to not support movies where corporate bullshit ruins a good thing. These people need to see that they need to let the creative process happen if they want a movie to be good.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Damn, crazy how DreamWorks came out swinging with Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, only to completely trip over and lose all the momentum it gained from that movie. Megamind 2, and now this have been meh.
@USANATV2007Ruby Gilman is like Wish. Was much better in the deleted scenes.
Megamind 2 was atrocious
"Meh" @ BEST if Saberspark's review is N E thing ta go by!!!!!
This had some decent qualities that kept it from being outright horrible.
Megamind 2 on the other hand was absolutely awful.
Dreamworks has always been like this
for those who don't know, in official interviews the directors confirmed that Kung fu panda was from the 1st film envisioned as a saga of 6 films, some plot points ended up being used in the animated series (there are 2) but they always had an idea of what this film would be, however the director seems to have changed the tone of this film a lot
The last film really felt like the end to me, unless the next film was about Po literally being Shifu and teaching a real student (not the Furious 5 who already know kung fu, or the pandas who were only learning to save their village). Maybe that's what Zhen was meant to be.
I also don't like how Po gets to be Oogway's successor as 'spiritual leader', when it's clear Shifu has grown a lot from his prejudices against Po so he would make a good spiritual leader. Po's way too young. He's immature and honestly he deserves to be silly and a bit selfish, because he's young. Shifu who has experienced failure teaching Tai Lung and then redeemed himself teaching Po without Oogway should be leader.
Just hearing an idea of a last goodbye from Shift to Shen sounds so heartwarming and awesome
Kai and Lord Shen were added last minute, they were practically sticks connecting with glue.
You become what you wish to destroy is a great quote to showcase what’s happening to dreamworks, dreamworks was first created to be different and one up Disney and all their cooperate meddling, but now they are suffering the same fate
Basically, Jeffrey Katzenburg, before leaving Disney and founding DreamWorks, wanted to get the position of president of the Walt Disney company after Frank Wells had tragically died from a helicopter crash and Micheal Eisner didn’t let him get the position because he was already CEO of the company and Katzenburg got angry and left the company.
The Chameleon: I am Po’s Greatest Enemy
Lord Shen: Am I a joke to you?!
Also the Chameleon: I was cast aside for being small!
Mantis: Am I a joke to you?!
stairs:amateurs
The stairs are probably everyone's worst enemy in the damned franchise. Wonder how the engineers/architects' backs feel after building everything with ridiculous amounts of stairs 😂
The Chameleon is the Joke
Tai lung: Am I a joke to you?!
@@segungamer1207 He is a joke in this movie, unfortunately for us.
I think the idea of Po finding new dragon warrior, passing the torch would be good conclusion of his journey for last film (6th planned) We start from Po becoming dragon warrior then his story of being dragon warrior, slowly becoming a legend and at the end he becomes the spiritual leader and passing the title to for example Tigress who was perfect candidate from the beginning and would be cool development of her character aswell. It feels like he was dragon warrior for short period of time, when even in first film Po said choosing a dragon warrior happening roughly once per 100 years so probably whole life of chosen
But with how it's shaping right now, I have bo idea where they want to go with this franchise
Ngl I kinda saw this coming. Its really easy to tell when a movie franchise is over doing it
The best thing about Kung Fu Panda 4 is the Tenacious D Cover of "Baby One More Time" cover that promoted the movie
The Crazy train cover during the chase scene scratched an itch in my brain
I don’t understand how they can pop out an amazing movie like The Last Wish and then give us shit like megamind 2
They do this every year.They release a cinematic masterpiece and then release shit.
Megamind 2 is not theatrical film 🙄
It also didn't need a sequel.
Dreamworks has always been a hit and a miss. Shrek 2 and Shark Tale aired at the same year for example.
That’s what makes Dreamsworks Dreamsworks! 😂. They either have garbage movies or masterpieces, no in between!
That's DreamWorks!
The biggest issue is that any villain in legends of Awesomeness is a better villain than the Chameleon in yerms of motive, relation to Po and power.
It would've been pretty nice if the movie was mainly/fully about Chameleon & Zhen.
And probably with Zhen becoming mature and brave enough to leave Chameleon's manipulation, and have a new life as a kung fu student of the 5 or some other thing.
I’m just gonna accept Kung Fu Panda 3 as the true finale to the series. It may not be the best in the trilogy, but at least it had a satisfying conclusion.
In my opinion it’s 2 but I thought that 4 was gonna be better then 3 but I was wrong
Actually, I do like the third movie. I agree that it may not be the best, but it definitely has a perfect ending for the Kung Fu Panda trilogy. So, I really don't want to watch the fourth one.
@@EagleFangBasketball22Me too
The only thing I really, REALLY, wanted from this movie was an actually heartfelt goodbye between Tai Lung and Shifu. I was honestly expecting it or at least expecting Shifu to have a reaction to Tai Lung being back since he was like a son to him, but none of that was there and I was honestly alseep for most if the movie because I was so bored and knew what was gonna happen.
Edit: For those that keep telling me how and why the moment I wanted was added, I know, I just commented this because this is what I wanted and it would have made the movie better, more interesting.
That was the co-directors plan for the movie, but the director would not budge from his vision of the movie which turned out to be the flaming hot mess that was Kung Fu Panda 4
@@noobthenewt1048 They could have found a balance with Stephanie heading the story while Mike the humor and quirks. A shame considering that this was her first time as a director only to be scuffed by her crew. She should be in charge of 5 cause she sounds similar to JYN.
It did not happen because bad direction
That didn’t happen because of that sorry excuse for a director (Mike Mitchell).
You should review and give your thoughts on Trollge Incidents, you be very good at covering it.
That one messanger bird, Shifu sent to warn the prison should have been the dragon warrior
The main lead character concept artist Nico Marlet was also not present in this movie and it shows
i saw some concept art for zhen, and it was so much better and more kfp-esque than the final design. corporate meddling strikes again
this movie felt more like the tv shows on Nickelodeon stretched out into a movie
the design, the storyline itself etc. honestly kinda disappointed that the past villain has no bigger cameos other than bowing to po at the end
ALSO SHEN ??? BOWING TO PO ????? UNACCEPTABLE
I Imagining This Airing Before Friends On nick@niTe Before The Main nickelodeon Block Airs It
That's what I was saying! This 4th sequel was better off just being a special episode for the TV series. Such a shame, it could've been a lot better especially on the year of the Dragon! Hopefully part 5 will be better.
Also, why did the best villain (Shen) get so little screen time?! 😫
I swear, I was dreading Shen's appearance cuz I knew they were gonna butcher him. Also, I get that he accepted defeat and death in KFP 2, but I do NOT see him bowing to Po. Shen didn't realize he was wrong nor did he respect Po, he was more like "well, I lost, might as well go out swinging"
Shen bowing to any panda in general is BS. Everyone knows that even if he's defeated, Shen ain't bowing to them
That's a really great point. It seems like they didn't watch the movies....hmm?
My favourite part of Kung Fu Panda 4 is Tenacious D's cover version of Baby One More Time(Originally sung by Britney Spears.).
congratz on 2M subs
As someone mentioned on Scafrillias’s video, this premise could have worked so much better if, after having his powers copied by the Chameleon Tai Lung escaped and fled to warn Po.
You could argue that he’s been in the spirit realm for years and had time to reflect.
Have the chameleon take Shifu and you have all the motivation for a fun and awkward buddy movie with Kung Fu as Tai and Po try to work together to get him back.
Hell, have Tai Lung be offered the mantel of Dragon Warrior at the and you’ve also come full circle.
Didn’t tai lung murder people? Why should he be offered the title of dragon warrior?
@@kitothekito915 did you forget about Oogway? his whole backstory is killing people in some kind of battle together with Kai who is by the way the bad guy
@@kitothekito915 We had a journey of self discovery, A journey of facing your trauma, a journey of discovering your roots so why not a journey of redemption?
God, I am so upset this concept wasn’t in the actual movie. What a great idea.
I just had an idea, Po offers tai lung the mantel of Dragon Warrior and rejects it, finding purpose on being himself, mirroring po rejecting the dumpling after fighting shifu for it
Shifu Should've died, and Tai lung should've gotten a full redemption arc like Zuko. This movie is also missing the cool colors and lighting from the previous films. In a perfect world the main colors for KFP 4 would be purple. Tai Lung then goes on to train Zhen and the next generation of Kung Fu masters. Po then takes on Shifu's role (he can still fight though). Also Tai Lung should be the only returning villain because he's sympathetic. Kai held a grudge with Oogway for 500 years, so why is he bowing to Po after he killed him like a few years ago.
actually kai shouldn't even be in the movie his spirit literally exploded and nth you can make an argument for Shen
Kai shouldn't've even been there. Bro's spirit fucking exploded due to chi overload. His soul literally shouldn't even exist anymore.
Can a character like him even die in a kids movie?
Dude came in swinging on shifu verbally, what did bro do? ☠️
@@cake8807In HTTYD2, Stoic died so yes.
viper literally has no arms nor legs and she’s a member of the Furious 5 so why couldn’t the chameleon learn kung fu?
I've also heard speculation that Universal is trying to run DreamWorks like Illumination, who is also owned by Universal
As a huge kung fu panda fan. Who has watched all of the movies multiple times, every single spin-off series and legends of awesomeness twice, this was so disappointing. :(
I was so excited to see what colour palette the 4th movie would be. The first 3 movies had yellow, red then green.
Physical, mental, and spiritual.
The 4th movie had none of that. :(
I agree. I love Kung Fu Panda but this movie wasn't all too great. Really sad
They could have went with yellow or orange or something that could work with the chameleon “villain”
Yeah fr even the logo is boring
Shifu Should've died, and Tai lung should've gotten a full redemption arc like Zuko. This movie is also missing the cool colors and lighting from the previous films. In a perfect world the main colors for KFP 4 would be purple. Tai Lung then goes on to train Zhen and the next generation of Kung Fu masters. Po then takes on Shifu's role (he can still fight though). Also Tai Lung should be the only returning villain because he's sympathetic. Kai held a grudge with Oogway for 500 years, so why is he bowing to Po after he killed him like a few years ago.
If you are such a huge fan you would know that original director wasn't involved.
As someone who dealt with creative meddling on my project by a dude (now gone from it) who tried to make Kooky Trails a Disney wannabe. I know exactly what Stephanie went through and it is absolutely sad. It sucks when the wrong people hired think they know it all and usually are the ones who will tend to dictate what they think the project should be based on numbers, what THEY want to see, and copying others like Disney/ETC.
I hate when people with a corpoate or egotist mind are in charge. They're usally the reason why projects like this are ruined. I am glad I prevented that with my project since its an indie. But goddamn it frustrates me what happened with Kung Fu Panda 4 and as someone who recently got into the franchise. Its pretty sad to see...
Never let Mike Mitchell cook again
Something similar happened during the production of Merida too
Witnessed it firsthand. It's so sad 😭 I feel awful for her. That guy should be fired for ruining kung fu panda 4
7:31 THIS MOVIE DOESNT LOOK GREAT
as a 3d artist, I can tell that they lacked budget, the rendering quality is poor, and there is so much animation cut, less fights, not a lot of cartoony expressions (imagine where viper was doing an accupuncture, remmember Pos face, Tigress angry face? so interactive, here everything is dead) really as much, not moving as possible
The only thing I can think of regarding her being too small, is that no one outside of the valley apparently has heard of Po or the Furious Five. So it's possible she never realized that someone small could learn Kung Fu? It's still.. weirdly never addressed or brought up though that Mantis and Viper are right there
I wonder how Shrek 5 will be...
DO NOT MANIFEST THIS
I thought shrek 4 never came out
Don’t jinx it!
Donkey dies at the end probably
Oh boy...
> kung fu panda live-action
What. How. Why???
money saving
No. Just, no.
How would that even work? Every character is an anthro. What, are they going to be rendered realistically? *shudders*
It's gonna be so ass LMAO
I will have nightmares from that.
I hate the movies where someone’s gotta give their position to someone else. As much as I love cars three I don’t see why they had to have McQueen sit out on the last race.
It seems that many people are mad at Disney and Pixar making so many sequels instead of originals like Toy Story 5 Frozen 3 & 4 Moana 2 Zootopia 2 and Inside Out 2 for the sake of money, But then how come DreamWorks and Illumination get free Passes for making sequels and adaptations?!?!
Because they are known for making amazing movies and shows, yet when they do things like that it seems lazy and uninspired, not to mention with the way things are going it usually turns out poorly, being influenced by woke writers who only seek to put in their opions and not make an actually good movie. DreamWorks has a pass because compared to those 2 it's the underdog, and KFP has been around long enough for it to be a nostalgia hit for a lot of us, like Shrek. However I don't think KFP4 was up to standards and it's very disappointing to see. Actually makes me question if I wanna see the wild robot or the live action how to train your dragon.
Nobody is giving those studios passes. DreamWorks has a very reliable track record when it comes to sequels with only a handful of them not living up to expectations, and no one really expects anything stellar from Illumination so their sequels generally seem about on par with their original films anyway.
Its kind of a mixed bag but disney isn't really known for their sequals (except toy story)
A friend of mine told me she had seen a fan rewrite where Tai Long got brought back and his power stolen, and he and Po work together to save Master Shifu from the Chameleon. Then Po hands the mantle to a mellowed out Tai Long. Gosh, that would have been so much better! I would have loved to watched that movie. It would have made a great full circle.
I don't think Tai Lung would have fit as the next Dragon Warrior. If he didn't mellow after Oogway handled his ass and he stayed rotting in jail for 20 years why would he now that he got sent to the afterlife?
@@kristophesiem5336In jail, Tai Lung is held down and restrained 24/7, which gives him incentive to focus purely on revenge. The Spirit Realm is a lot better of an environment for introspecting; nowhere to really "escape" to, but it's also a pretty peaceful place without any violent enforcers, so you have time to sit down and think about what led you there.
lol I saw the fan rewrite comment above this one. But yeah, it would have been full circle, but for some reason we got this movie instead
@heavygunner4039 Not to mention that he likely thought that his punishment was unjust since in his mind the reason he's imprisoned is because Oogway is keeping him away from the scroll that he feels like he deserves. It also doesn't help that he's basically put in solitary confinement too which is literally considered a form of torture by the U.N and leads to several mental health issues, which wouldn't make it any easier to help calm his slowly degrading mind.
@@heavygunner4039That’s too cliché
My dad was more present in my childhood than the Furious Five in KFP4
Bruh
@@SiNKarnageWhat ?
Dude, didn't even hear that this movie came out. Barely heard that it was being made. This video is the first time I'm hearing about the movie being out. o_o
Heya saber
This is unrelated to the video but i have a film recommendation :
Cat city(1986) is a hungarian adult animated film which does have an english dub , but it wasnt actually released in the US because they didnt want to air it but i grew up in the tought of cat city was a kids cartoon😂 Anyways i think it would be a nice watch it does have good humor and its an interesting watch( I do have to admit I can see why it was deemed as an adult film as I rewatched it 😅)
One thing we can give Kung Fu Panda 4 credit for is making everybody realize how good of a conclusion to the franchise Kung Fu Panda 3 truly was.
Yessss. I never understood the dislike for that movie. It was the least serious of the three but I think it was fitting given how the really intense stuff of Po's past was dealt with in the movie before it. I'm seeing people appreciate Kai more too which is great because I always loved him as a villain.
@@frenzy2061EXACTLY... kai is extremely underrated. I get that it's not as good as the other 2 fs but gotta give credit where its due, he's an insanely threatening villain
I am glad the boy and the heron won a second oscar for Myazaki :)
Live Miyazaki reaction: 🗿
Tai Lung: *caused carnage and chaos in the Valley of Peace upon discovering he was unfit to be the Dragon Warrior*
Shen: *committed mass genocide against the pandas out of fear that they may turn against him*
Kai: *nearly wipes out the entire panda population by stealing their life essence*
The Chameleon: *pushes a guy off the stairs, big whup*
You'd think after all this time Shifu would see that the "Dragon Warrior" is nothing more than a simple title. To be able to see the good in people as Oogway saw the darkness in Tai Lung. There is no need for a new Dragon Warrior because it is simply air. The Dragon Scroll held no destiny for Tai Lung for his trials and tribulations of training and being locked away for 20 years. This whole movie was a nothing burger. Shifu being kidnapped is an actual motivator for Po and the audience. Have Zhen be the kidnapper and instead of Peng and Li getting their moments show Shifu and Zhen getting to know one another and for Shifu to drop the seed of change for Zhen. So by the time everything is wrapping up she has her moment to shine and earn her destiny, like Po did. Kicking off the next movies planned with a new character to flesh out further alongside the Furious 5 AND THE DRAGON WARRIOR [Said in Jack Black's voice].
We've also already established that Shifu is shit at choosing Dragon Warrior's and yet he is still pushing that damn ceremony to choose one despite Oogway constantly not choosing one. Not sure why Shifu is even still involved, he is technically "retired" and Po already took up his mantle as master in 3.
According to an interview with co-director Stephanie Ma Stine posted on the r/kungfupanda subreddit, director Mike Mitchell was given complete creative control over the film's story (with the sole major stipulation is that the movie could not run over ninety minutes), which led to many of the more controversial and underdeveloped plot elements, such as Zhen and the Chameleon's undercooked backstories (they originally had none at all), Kai and Lord Shen having no lines (they were added very last minute), Shifu not being present during the climax (even the DreamWorks executives loved the idea of him being there, but it got axed for reasons unknown), and an overall insistence on a more comedic tone over the dramedy approach of the first two films.
Puss in Boots: TLW should have taught them that heartfelt moments and genuine character interaction always hit harder than silly, slapstick humor.
SERIOUSLY!!!!!
Preach!
To be fair, slapstick humor for better or worse is what made them get a lot of praise by millions
Honestly it’s feels like a miracle Puss in boots the last wish turned out as good as it did.
It’s funny because that’s also basically Kung Fu Panda 2 as well.
I heard that the script was rewritten behind the scenes a few times during filming and even the furious five were supposed to return and the chameleon herself wasnt even the main villian in an early script neither as according to rumors tai lung,kai and shen were gonna return and team up to take Po and the five down for good. Again thats just rumors I heard as the early version was nothing like the final script we got in this mess.
MY husband pointed out, and I agree, how frustrating it is that we enjoy watching Po overcome self doubt and a low self esteeme in the first movie. It's a fun journey with him. And now we have this fox that just steps in and knows everything, barely struggles with anything. Are we sure her name isn't Mary Sue?
Kung Fu Panda 4 feels like an illumination movie. I got a sinking feeling in my stomach once I saw that fart joke in the trailer.
Have the Chameleon's backstory of her just being lazy and taking others powers without putting any effort into it. Like a plagiarist who steals people's ideas and doesn't believe in herself. It wasn't because she's small it was because she was lazy that she steals others talent. He her vices be sloth and envy.
finding out they scrapped shifu and tai having one last moment feels like a punch in the gut
The idea of Shi Fu being captured is really REALLY a much better idea
Plus it would've bring the characters together to make a grand finale battle
And Po having to decide who he'll choose to be the next dragon warrior
Like gee who is he gonna pick?, oh wait the Furious Five aren't here uh Zhen...no other options 🤣
When the idea of the Chameleon having the ability to morph into the villains Po defeated it was very intriguing
But when the villains returned I thought they would interact but Kai and Shen didn't speak at all
Unfortunately JK Simmons who voiced Kai and Gary Oldman as Lord Shen didn't reprise they're roles
They were wasted
Tai Lung though had potential for a redemption arc with shi Fu
It would've made a tear jerking moment between them especially if they went for the Shi Fu being captured plot
Chameleon seemed like a *different* kind of villain
But her motivation to why she brings back the villains from the spirit realm is pretty dumb
Like girl there's someone who knows how to fight *conveniently* right there (Zhen) and your not the only animal in China who's small
Mantis can literally lift Po 🤣
I don't hate the movie but I don't love it either
I want to but the plot holes, lack luster characters, cliches, absent characters really gave a sour taste
I wish Everybody loves Kung Fu song was put into the end credits
When my interest in kung fu panda peaked (August-October 2023) there was one thing I liked about the franchise and that’s the wiseness in the movies,I haven’t seen the movie yet,but I have a feeling all of this was thrown out the window with this movie
I mean, between Megamind 2, which I mean, had next to no marketing, and the drawn-out disembowlment of the Dragons franchise, Universal and Dreamworks have harpooned any faith I had in them
Lizard not being able to do kung fu is a horrible plot.
The fox character has a disney esque design and doesn't have a similar design style like tai lung or tigress. She looks like she belongs in zootopia not KFP universe.
Also akwafina voicing everything (similar sentiment to chris pratt doing the same)
Why does po have to give up being the dragon warrior? And if he absolutely does, why not give it to one of the furious five? Tigress has grown so much thought the films.
The stuff Stephanie went through as she recounted during that interview woulda broke me
I remenber that i saw one Interview recently about Hayao Miyazaki (Director of Studio Ghibli) when he released *Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind* to America, they all wanted to Cut his 2 Hours Animated movie into 90 Minutes for corporated reasons and filling his movie with tons of Plot Holes.
I think you are talking about the first release of Nausicaä, that was outside of Japan, back in the 1980s by a company called Manson International with the movie title called “Warriors of the Wind”.
Namely that version of the English dub for Nausicaä made Hayao Miyazaki not happy with that particular cut of the movie and made sure that any of his movies wouldn’t edit scenes out for future releases overseas and for the rest of Studio Ghibli’s film catalogue. We wouldn’t get an official uncut English release of Nausicaä until 2005 when Disney had made a redubbed version of the movie.
Bruh how was the live action parts gonna work, also the shifu and tai lung moment wohldve been great
Some ideas were fine but others no.
The Chameleon has a really pathetic motivation, also, why is Kai in the movie? he was desintegrated.
Axing the scene with Shifu saying his last goodbye to Tai lung was a really bad move. Who was the idiot responsible for that???