Has Disney FAILED Yet Again? (Wish Review)
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2023
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So Disney's newest movie Wish has had a rough reception and not gonna lie, not all of that criticism is unwarranted. I avoided the teasers and trailers for this film knowing that folks were dunking on it leading up to its release. I wanted to give Wish a fair shot. The results? Ah...you'll find out
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I was waiting in anticipation for this review!!!
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Real shame Disney’s 100th anniversary is like this
Bland main character.
Maybe it should've been about Mickey instead.
Oddly, this movie seems to ironically showcase how Disney has changed over 100 years from a cutting-edge studio into a corporate sweat-shop, milking its legacy and image for $$.
Disney has always been a bit of a corporate sweat shop, Disney himself was infamous for his poor treatment of workers and underming the talent and hard work of the animators working under him. Disney got lucky that strict censorship laws killed every animation studio that could possibly compete with him and Disney was the only potential employer for many talented artists during that time.
I feel like the higher ups at Disney think they still live in a world where Disney is the only studio with enough money and employees to create a feature length animated movie. Early animated Disney movies like Snowhite and Sleeping Beauty were impressive on the animation side but not so much on the story telling side. The scripts were basically standard stage adaptations of old and well-known fairy tales. It worked back than because animation was a novelty.
period
It’s becoming a Dollar store movie outlet at this point. Soon enough Disney will become a Ghost Town.
@@GaidenDS10 Or more than likely turn around and switch back to a more successful model.
True.
A superior way to revere past Disney works (or whatever) would have been to use old tropes and story templates, or prior knowledge of fairy tale/young male explorer stories to make a new interesting spin on the story similar to Enchanted. Not to say I am a fantastic writer, it's just an idea. If they like the Tangled animation and adorkable Anna characters, that's fine. Kids aren't getting tired of it yet.
We need more films like Hercules or Treasure Planet, on god.
The fact that the little star guy was originally gonna be a whole dude who came from the stars themselves, AND he was gonna be the love interest? This story could've had so much.
I love the idea of Asha being the daughter of the villain COUPLE, who goes against them to try and help her star magic soul mate. Wwaayyy more drama from that
Now that sounds like a fun movie. This and Elemental just gave off "generic product" vibes so hard in their trailers that I wasn't even interested in going to the theater and I'm the type of person who will go by myself to see an animated film if i have to. I'm excited to see animation from alternative sources popping up but it does hurt to have grown up in the Disney renaissance only to watch them lose their way.
@Dumbledoresarmy13 I'm more so disappointed that they've gotten lazy. Wish was supposed to be in 2D but Disney chose otherwise cause 2D animation is "too hard"
That's so insulting to me. Disney was the pioneer in 2D animation. 2D animation was the reason Disney even made billions of dollars. It's what started them. So for them to complain about how it's "too hard" is just such a slap in the face. Especially for the fans who loved the Renaissance era
@@mmecharlotte please let us know when you write it!!! 😊
@@DoodleFoxxyit's not 'too hard'
2D animation is unionized. 3D is (or was? I know over the summer there was some voting going on) not. So 2D animators actually have to get paid more than the bare minimum, so companies use 3d animation to avoid paying their workers as much as possible.
Notice how often a small project is still 2D - if it was Too Hard they'd all be doing it in 3d
@@TigirlakaLaserwolf6 that's why I don't believe Disney when they complain about 2D. It requires a lot more skill and patience, so much skill that they know they'd have to pay a lot more. Disney has proven that they don't care about the craft, they just want their next big hit. It's all about quantity to them, not quality
The Princess and the frog tackled the ‘Wishing Star’ concept far better.
Believe in the magic of the world and You wish with all your heart on that star, but you’ve got to put in the work to help make that wish come true.
Actually, now that I think about it, The Princess and the frog would have been a much better fit to celebrate 100years of Disney.
It also had an actual "classic villain" who's a genuine contender for most terrifying Disney villain.
I've been saying this since the movie came out. Not only did PatF had an engaging protagonist, cohesive story, a menacing villain, but it did all that while staying true to the studio's legacy making references when needed but being its own unique story, and also having the courage to be a 2D movie
The music was so good and it was refreshing to see the prince get his ass humbled and actually put in effort
Not to mention having a great message - especially needed these days - that while it is good to have ambitions and the willingness to work, life isn't just about financial success or accomplishments.
Princess and the Frog really is an underrated movie.
Princess and the Frog may not have been the 100th anniversary tribute it deserved to be, but it was quite the bow-out for hand-drawn Disney animation.
It’s so disappointing that they didn’t go with the original ideas they scrapped, I mean.. who wouldn’t want a villain power couple and a love story between a magical star prince and Asha???
I would have watched that.
Where did you hear of this
@@jiderdanso2727 tiktok, they have vids of the previous concepts
@@jiderdanso2727 In the concept art book of Wish. Originally the star was going to be Asha's love interest and had a more human-like design. And the Queen was also going to be in on the villainous plot with the King.
@@Thunderwolf4 danke
Maybe in 100 years when copyright expires, we'll get to see it properly made 🙃
Disney never disappoints when it comes to disappointment.
😂😂😂
Just like EA, Disney also has that skill to disappoint you again and again, just in time you thought, it couldn't ever get any worse, but you can always expect them to find a new low xD.
@@ple8379 how about the Disney adaptation of Swan Lake? No, not the swan princess that one made by nest entertainment
@@jamessparkman6604 I'd absolutely love to see it done by disney... Old Disney that is. When they were still making these wonderful animations, as 9-10 year old, I was waiting for the Swan Princess or The Pea Princess for instance, as the Grimm Brothers' tales was what I grew up with, and seeing those tales on a big screen was a wonderful feeling.
Old Disney, that created all of these animated movies - I'd love to see some more, but this Disney doesn't exist anymore.
Disney is now a shitty, political and greedy company. They'd rather continue milking existing franchises, changing them into live actions or making sequel after sequel for their newest animation movies. I'm not here for this. While I miss the old times, I had already moved on from Disney. I will still watch the animations, and I hope they won't take these classics away :(.
That’s wrong
You know what's sad. Shrek did a better job referencing Disney than a Disney Film did.
What’s this reference please ?
Oh, sick burn! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@daniapfel2825All of the different fairy tales and the different jabs at the plots.
That's because Shrek understood its source material. Disney has shown for the last decade that they don't.
Shrek is god-tier, modern disney doesn’t even stand a chance
Fun fact: Contrary to popular belief, the movie Wish is not directly named after the concept of longing for something, but after the e-commerce company, as a form of tribute to the quality of their products.
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Disney already had a movie where the message is to make you’re own dreams come true that starts with a black woman wishing on a star, and it actually stuck to that make it come true yourself theme without forgoing magic and love and all that stuff Disneys brand relys on.
Shhhh don't bring that film up. Disney will remake it and royally screw it up lol
@@mali-cator, dare I say it, maybe Disney will remake Wish too as a live action movie? LOL! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@mali-catIf they made Tiana a white red-head, it's fine.
@@TedEhioghae and Moma Odie becomes an old asian dude? XD
I bet you never call her white woman if she is white
Look, unapologetically evil villains are my absolute favorite. But this story? About a person that can literally grant wishes to make people happy? This villain would have KILLED as the jaded hero that becomes a villain. A backstory of his inability to keep everyone happy and his discovery that magic will never be enough, no matter how good his magic is? That would have offered something new and compelling.
Honestly that would have been so good, I rarely see Heroes turned Villains as a use for plot especially in Disney (I think, I am not really sure if there are actually some out there) and I think this concept would have been actually amazing, alongside with other things Saber mentioned it could have absolutely worked! And shows that the characters have something to show and tell to the audience
Real hurts that apparently a bumch of random internet users in a YT comment section can come up with better movie ideas than the biggest media company on earth.
@@blakksheep736 oh, sick burn for Disney! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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That would be great commentary on current human entitlement issues, and the burnout felt by those still dedicated to doing the right things but, losing faith in humanity through constant showcases of greed. Learning when to Sacrifice, and renewing one’s faith in humanity would have been an important message in today’s society. But, Disney never takes risks anymore. So, that’s too touchy of a message for their worse than fanfic writers can handle.
The lesson is: let the creatives cook, keep the executives out.
Yeah
More like: Let the artists and writers cook, and let the executives serve
@@MonicalovesMangoesthey can't serve for shit tho
Unfortuanetly the human is a creature driven by money. After all they had to feed their family and the wine cant be reinvented otherwise there would'nt be sequels of an already ended succesful franchises.
Honestly if Disney just left it up to writers, concept artists, and animators rather than higher-ups or corporate, they could have a movie that was as successful in financial gain as the FNAF movie. Or at least have done Nimona. They’ve shown a gay relationship in a sitcom, so I feel like that was just their fear of being put into controversy and corporate interference that made this a failing year.
Saber, did you notice the end credits had a character from each Disney animated film? Except it DIDN’T because not only did they skip over most of the films if the 1940s, but they also skipped Black Cauldron and both Rescuers movies (and all sequels besides Fantasia 2000. So they actively excluded history in their retrospective.
Then again, they've always pretended Black Cauldron didn't exist. Disney would rather induct Blue Sky's movies into the Disney canon before they acknowledge Black Cauldron.
Either:
1: Magnifico has a point and the plot is about how you need to work to make your wishes come true and the wishing star is dangeorus
or 2: Evil couple who use wishes for something (to fuel magic maybe), Asha as the daughter and Star as a guy who is her love interest. Plot twist: it turns out Asha exists because the couple wished for a child.
Or maybe even they need wish magic to sustain her existence!
Asha’s personality doesn’t match her design. She looks young but her long dress and hair makes her look kinda regal and seem like a more mature character. Like, I could definitely visualise her being friendly but on the calmer side, the kind of girl that does her homework on time and doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers. Was pretty disappointed when Disney forced the shallow adorkable personality on her.
I know!! She looks like she’d be perfect for a shy protagonist that needs to come out of her shell (a dynamic that Disney hasn’t done for female protagonists in years and would really be good for girls that *aren’t* “adorkable”)... It’s like the one who designed her had a vision for her, but she got lobotomized by the Disney girl formula.
From her design, she seems like she would get easily overwhelmed by crowds and instead prefers to be on her own since it’s within her comfort zone. She doesn’t want to draw too much attention to herself and would probably want to give the spotlight to someone who she feels would deserve it, even when it’s her that does and thinks more than does. Someone who, as the story progresses, gets a stronger spine and learns to be more comfortable about “doing”.
That kind of princess would represent a good amount of girls out there that deal with feeling overwhelmed by crowds and are too scared to break out of their shells! Always having a princess that represents one type of girl leaves out the ones that are the opposite...
I knew next to nothing about this movie other than a poster I saw on a wall, and I had assumed the same.
Thought it was a nice change of pace, since as much as I love Mirabel from Encanto, the "adorkable quirky girl" puts me off (I was sick of it even when Moana came out).
When I saw what her personality actually was, I was super disappointed and its genuinely the thing that put me off the film. It feels like it was Frankensteined onto her for no other reason but to be quirky.
At least Mirabel made sense, she adapted to be more quirky to compensate for her lack of a talent.
Like the other commenter said, I think Disney should make a protagonist that quiet, regal, serious type girls can relate to.
The annoying dorks really just push away a large portion of the audience (or worse, makes kids think that they should change their personality to be more quirky in order to be liked, when really they should embrace who they are).
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@@MetaGiga I can definitely see that! Her having this type of personality would also make her standing up against the King (who’s she also the apprentice of) a lot more compelling as it shows her growth, courage and gives her a proper character arc. It could have been really interesting for both the movie and as an addition to the Disney Princess lineup.
@@clydesdale1775 I agree. It’s also a real missed opportunity to make a modern princess who also could have been a call back to the older more poised Disney heroines, especially considering it was their 100th anniversary film. Speaking of annoying dorks, honestly I’m also just waiting for Disney to make a genuinely awkward Princess rather than the forced quirky haha so awks adorkable type. Give me a Princess who’s GENUINELY awkward or shy rather than a conventionally “relatable” manic pixie girl!There’s so many types of personalities they’ve yet to explore and hopefully the reception to this film will serve as a wake up call to allow for more creativity.
I think Disney clearly didn’t understand what people meant by wanting a cruel villain that won’t be redeemed. You can still make a compelling villain even if they’re cruel and unredeemable. You don’t have to rip every shot of a motive and backstory from them to do that. What sucks is they’ve literally done it before!! Scar and Jafar for example. Both cruel and unjust villains. But villains with MOTIVES!
This is why I always believe that Disney would never make a villain like Frollo ever again.
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@@michaelstrong5383Honestly same
Technically Jack Horner from Puss in Boots 2 hadn't a motive and a mostly successful backstory for a villain. Difference is, Jack was still compelling even if he was just cartoonishly evil.
People don’t want “safe” anymore, not when other studios and companies are making things that are trying to tell different stories with oft-unheard types of characters. Netflix for all its grievous faults has given us some fantastic animated shows. European companies are also giving us some astounding gems. They deviated a bit from the formula with Encanto by having the motivation of Abuela be her lingering trauma from being a survivor of an extremely violent civil war, and they also hit it with Mother Gothel’s narcissistic parenting, but we as an audience want more than *one* thing that is changed. Change more than one thing about the formula, the characters and the presentation of the themes.
Disney essentially is making movies for Mormon families: safe, G-rated, and undisruptive beyond surface level conflict presented in the story. There is nothing to grasp anymore, nothing that intrigues. I also can’t exactly-exactly blame them because when Atlantis and Treasure Planet came out, those weren’t exactly box office smashes despite being creative in design, setting, and trajectory.
As for Wish itself. Boring, cutesy-klutzy female lead, a villain that seems ill-defined, and forgettable same-sounding songs that I wouldn’t be able to pick out of a lineup of recent Billboard Top 40 hits by their beat alone. Boring boring boring.
I don't understand how that is Abuela's motivation for more gifts? Gifts aren't inhrently going to keep her or her family safe. Unless the idea was to always have something to offer the village so they don't turn on us?
Technically Treasure Planet was saboteged by Disney itself so they could had an excuse to use 3D animation
@@Koranthus It is not properly explained in the movie, but it seems like the Encanto had some magic protection like a force field from the world outside.
This is what Abuela wanted to protect to make sure like they would never have to face another attack like the one her husband died.
@@giulizpaviz6381 yeah that was rough, they didn't let them advertise it and if i recall they launched it next to a big sequel or something. The creators asked them for a few years to make it if i recall.
@@Furienna where does it say that? cus thats mere speculation, my theory would be she needed more superpowers for her Abuela Defense Force, patent pending
Disney is no longer a film company. It is a toy company that dishes out $200 million commercials.
Well said. Disney's magic died a long time ago.
@@b1njjj95respectfully disagree for the sole reason that I think encanto hit really hard. other than that you're right.
I'm fairly young and grew up with some of the newer releases, and I remember walking away from or even cringing at some movies, e.g. Raya or Ralph Breaks -my brain- the Internet. if your target audience can see how bad your product is, then stop making crap like this. it really sucks that a studio that used to be so amazing makes me want to vomit now
@@ZippyMcBeans Just because Encanto is an amazing movie, doesn't mean Disney's magic didn't die. It seems like Disney is still somewhat capable of making really good 3D movies, but they are still too focused on cheap live action remakes of their old classics and they simply forgot that they are known for their stunning animation. When Disney stops playing games and starts focusing on making original 3D animated movies that have heart and soul like Trolls Band Together, then I will change my opinion entirely.
@@b1njjj95 valid, Disney's definitely lost its magic. I despise (almost) everything the studio's doing now.
and- I'm trying to sound nice and non-sarcastic when I say this- is trolls band together that good? I've mostly written off the franchise and didn't have super high hopes for TBT, but if it's actually got heart and soul, I'll give it a try :)
@@ZippyMcBeans I really enjoyed it! I saw it on opening night and I was blown away. It takes a lot for a movie to blow me away, but I immediately had to tell my friend after the movie ended how much I enjoyed it. I think it outshines its predecessor Trolls World Tour, because Trolls Band Together focuses on the importance of family and friendship, and it added new layers to Branch's character. The humour has definitely caught up with the audience as well, considering a lot of kids grew up with the Trolls franchise and they are now teens and adults. There were a lot of innuendos and funny adult jokes that had me laughing so hard in the theatre. The writers definitely cracked the code with this one and I personally think it's worth watching. And don't even get me started on the strong voice cast and the catchy songs. 😁
Honestly, I think one of the real problems with Wish is that it doesn’t really do anything outside Disney’s comfort zone. You’ve got the the generic story, boring and formulaic villain, and the uninteresting main protagonist. Combined with the fact that it’s supposed to be the movie to celebrate Disney’s 100th birthday is so.. Sad.
And yet, people were complaining about twist villains.
@@Khadi-Cthose still suck
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I'd love to see Disney making something more similar to The Black Cauldron, Atlantis or Treasure Planet in CG. Don't of if they're capable of making something similar to Spider-Verse or Mutant Mayhem. Even Pixar tried something different with Lightyear, despite its flaws
It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.
It's sad because the only characters I liked from this movie are the main protagonist and that star.
I don't know what to say but... this movie is the first animation disaster I've ever seen since... well... Velma
Not cringe as that abomination, but it's still... another animation disappointment to end a year.
I'm glad It's Time For The and Amazing Digital Circus came out to help save animation (even indie) a bit.
Edit: It's weird that I didn't see this movie yet, but I'm already not feeling like watching it now.
still wanting a villian Disney princess 🙏 that could be revolutionary if they do it right
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Look at concept art. They had more planed, something better planed... How the entire story seems to be written by different people by the second half of the movie.
They had even planned to have the queen evil!
Yet nope. Executives and higher ups waltzed in, made their demands, and got their yes people to agree as the movie budget rose with nothing good seen from it.
Then again... Rewrites, reshoot, and redrawing (they wanted 2d, then changed their mind to copying Spiderverse artwork without understanding it.)
And the large budget is made due to the constant changes.
In my opinion, the fatal mistake in this film was that Disney recruited inappropriate songwriters and composers for a film celebrating 100 years of Disney. Julia Michaels as the songwriter for this film is indeed talented, but she is new to writing songs for Disney and it seems like she doesn't really understand how to write songs in storytelling musical films like this one properly, so most of the songs aren't that impressive or memorable. For Disney's 100th anniversary film, Disney should have recruited songwriters and composers who had experience working at Disney before, such as Alan Menken, Randy Newman, Glenn Slater, The Lopezs, Lin Manuel Miranda, and at least they collaborated so that the songs would be impressive. They all have more experience writing songs to tell stories in films than Julia Michaels. It's a shame that a film that was supposed to be a celebration of Disney's 100th anniversary ended up like this 😢
Menken - Schwartz made the Disenchanted songs, without any contractual needs at the time. And it was more 100th anniversary of Disney than everything from Wish. Why it is not possible to WDAS nowadays?
Could you imagine what this movies soundtrack could've been like if Bon Jovi had been the one chosen to write the songs? His most recent song "Legendary" really slaps and I could easily see it fitting in a Disney adventure!
I honestly feel like Dreamworks made a more Disney ish movie with Puss in Boots: the last wish, than actual Disney did with Wish.
1. The characters are from fairytales
2. While the story is not a direct adaptation of the Puss in Boots story, the plot still has the feel of a fairytale
3. Pure evil, irredeemable, over the top, villain that is still so much fun to watch
4. Art style that could fit into a story book
5. All the feels while watching
6. Heck they even have wishing upon a star!!!🌟
Jack is literally one of my top favorite villains of all time!
Bingo. Not to mention they also have a redeemed villain (in the form of Goldilocks and the Three Bears) and an unstoppable force (in the form of Death).
Puss In Boots The Last Wish literally would have won best animated picture if the Del Toro Pinocchio movie wasn't released or didn't count as animation. (I mean, it technically does even though it's stop-motion, although it's very good as well.)
Dreamworks became the very thing they swore to defeat
@@ezelfrancisco1349 At least they still have some interesting films. 2022 was really good for them, even if 2023 wasn't as good, although it's very different than in 2022; nearly every theater in my county has closed...
I think Dreamworks is way better because they're not scared to tackle certain topics like death and abandonment in a way where Disney seems to skirt around those topics. I mean How to train your dragon did things I could never see Disney doing.
What's utterly devastating is that the initial idea for Wish sounds perfect for a 100th anniversary film. Imagine how great it would be to have Star as a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion between Peter Pan and the Genie, as Asha's love interest, and the king and queen as an evil couple. And all that in 2D! That could have been amazing, it was right there... and Disney didn't do it.
Heck, I'm so disappointed they didn't I'm going to write my own musical movie using that premise because it needs to exist in some form.
I was hoping for something similar to that very idea! I don’t have much hope for Disney these days but I wanted something special for the 100th anniversary, it’s too important to let down!
I am eagerly anticipating seeing people's own versions of Wish on UA-cam soon 😭 cuz the audience Disney is trying to pander to is making better stories than they do in COMMENT SECTIONS
Not to mention King Magnifico and Queen Amaya having an evil sidekick cat.
@@aquatiger8 I was honestly just thinking about that earlier after watching a different review! I wrote my own in the comments then read so many other cool ideas that it makes me want to write my own rewrite of the plot. And I bet there would be lots of other fanfics fleshing out this world because it sorely needs it.
@@DeadmanInc336at this point this just sounds like Jessie and James xD
The king could have come from a very poor house, he grew up having to work super hard to stay honest and feed his family. One day he gains his power and upon seeing the village in similar circumstances as his, so he begins to grant everyones wishes. What was happy slowly decends chaos and causes the destruction of the village. King decides though life will be harder, he would limit the amount and the scope of the wishes granted.After meeting to hero of the story he realises he never granted his own wishes, something he can only do by using the evil green magic. He know hpw it could corrupt him but he beileves he can resist it. He succumbs and starts making more and more wishes for him self leading to the city and castle falling to ruin echoing his own early years. Did i just do a back story? DISNEY, HIRE ME!
Y'know what I find ironic? People wished for this.
For years, people complained about obligatory love interests and completely evil villains. Now they're calling out for those things to return.
I'm not saying that Disney didn't drop the ball on this one; but it does go to show that not all wishes should be granted.
Both things can be true though. They should focus on writing an organic movie and telling an interesting story. They shouldn't add a love interest just because and they shouldn't remove them just because. Moana was literally a movie without a love interest and a not-evil villain and it was 100x better than this souless dogwater. And in my opinion while Frozen was better than Wish it was mid and Christoph adds nothing to the films
People are upset because its badly written
Kristoff added a lot to the first Frozen movie. He helped bring Anna to Elsa and made Anna realize what a good romantic relationship should be. But I agree he was useless in Frozen 2.
@@FunFilmFare I feel like the movie wouldn't have been that different without him other than helping Anna which could've been done by a non-romantic interest with no diffence. I overall found him to be the weakest character unlike some older Disney romances like Jasmine and Aladdin, Nala and Simba and definitely Beauty and the Beast. I only found him ok as a character but didn't feel he enhanced the movie that much and yes he was just useless in Frozen 2. Frozen is still kind of mid though they writers pretty much admitted they were all over the place and weren't sure of their direction.
I agree, he really isn't a love interest for most of the movie even though as movie goers we see where its supposed to go, besides the trolls trying to hook them up, most of the movie was her getting elsa and not even really acknowledging him besides needing his help, which basically any stand-in character could do. They tried to do something with him in Frozen 2, i liked his boy band song but most of the movie was the same as 1 for them except they were together, he spends most of the movie being pensive and unsure and she basically ignores him unless she needs help.@@BReal92
I don't remember where I heard it from, but someone described Wish as the first Disney "children's movie" rather than a family movie, and I think that speaks volumes.
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That's doesn't make sense.. The were always for kids and adults
@darianstarfrog there's a difference between a childrens movie and a family movie. A lot of Illumination movies and popcorn movies like Sharkboy and Lavagirl do not have a mature theme only jokes and shenanigans. While family movies can be enjoyed by adults its why Encanto, Zootopia, Lilo and Stitch, and other classics are Family movies because they actually have messages
@@darianstarfrog Yes, but this one feels like it was made for childrens enjoyment only, Adults can see the flaws more obviously
The thing is, the motivation for the king isn't even unreasonable. It's literally impossible to have everyone's wish granted. Imagine a child wishes they could go off and do their own thing but the parents wish that the kid would stay home and take up the family trade. What would happen?
Do you think this "granting everyone's wish" plot line was done better or worse, back in Wonder Woman 1984?
Bruce almighty exists also.
@@adamkalb1its just as bad
Appabbend mentioned Bruce Almighty showing exactly what happens when an omnipotent being just says "Yes" to every prayer/wish
That's basically proof of how horrible written this movie is. All Magnifico had to do when confronted by Ms Entitled was tell her "Okay, this dude wishes for their neighbor to die. This one for all the people he doesn't like to suffer. You want everyone to get their wish? Cool, here's a taste of how that would be" Done. Her literal WHOLE ARGUMENT completely destroyed in 5 seconds. But no, the movie bends Magnifico and everything in the movie, to make her look like she's right. Like, fk off.
Yeah, I sadly knew that Wish was not going to end up being good, simply by the idea of granting wishes without restrain with magic. It worked with Aladin, Ariel and Cindarella because every wish had limits and they were technically not lasting. (like the wealth you see Aladin getting to make his grand "prince" entrance disappears pretty quickly) Every single character has to WORK to get their wish granted somehow and some wishes can't be granted through magic, like love, death and life.
Disney just dumped those important lessons all out the fcking window with Wish.
I feel like this plot synopses is what I imagine it would be like to be an animation intern or new director/writer at Disney:
"I got the job! I'm going to work for the greatest animation studio of all time! I can't wait to make my masterpiece that I've planned for half my life!"
"Cool idea. Edit this to get past the Chinese censors, use this soulless recycled animation that we've had for the past decade, and add more nostalgia bait. We're using this script rewrite that I ran through ChatGPT while I was on a herculean amount of coke last night. Also, add some merch fodder so I can make my bonus this year."
"...What?..."
"It's the 100th anniversary movie. Those smooth brained, mouse-eared stans will simp for it anyway. Seriously. We could animate a pile of dog vomit, have it scream racial slurs with Gilbert Gottfried's resurrected AI voice, and they'd still buy it."
Too true
I just feel that Disney is always like: "No no no we don't make damsels in distress and lovestruck girls anymore. We make adorkable and inspiring CEO like female protagonist." Like switching one stereotype for another solves the problem. I don't mind a good love story or a damsel in distress as long as it's well written and it doesn't feel forced, the same way that an adorkable character can work if she isn't tripping all the time yet stumbling into the solutions of their problems.
i feel like we’ve had too many of the “clumsy, adorkable” characters lately. with the old disney princesses I could easily tell them all apart because their personalities were so different and unique from eachother
@@rozmyosotis Not only that, but the art styles, too. Since the rise of 3D in Disney movies all characters look more or less the same. Plus acting more or less the same. Plus having more or less the same story. Plus even having more or less the same songs ...
I agree. I think that Jane from Tarzan is fine example how to write ”adorkable” damsel in distress character right. Jane is not a warrior and can’t even look after herself in a wild. I don’t see her even overly intelligent character. But she is still funny, interesting, charming , emotional and relatable. She is passionate and optimistic artist and I love her for it. That’s what I miss the most. Honest and real characters that don’t have to ”prove” anything. 💔
I think the Mario Movie handled the damsel in distress trope pretty well. I liked how they made Peach into a self sufficient ruler and put Luigi into the "damsel in distress" role.
@@variant7816 you don't think Peach's badassary was a little pandering? I mean, she's a character that was essentially defined by getting rescued by Mario in like 99% of Mario games for over 30 years. she was based on Olive Oil from Popeye.
Everything _Wish_ tried to do, _Puss in Boots: The Last Wish_ did better: an old-fashioned evil villain, a funny animal sidekick, wishes coming true without need for magic, even a little romance (imagine _that_ in a Disney movie these days!). In fact, _Wish_ bears such striking similarity to _Puss in Boots 2_ (a magic star falls to earth and can grant wishes, told with a heavy Spanish flavor) that I can’t help but wonder if this is another instance of Disney and Dreamworks “taking inspiration” from each other. If so, it’s all too clear which studio executed the idea better.
Anyone who wants to see _Wish_ should seriously just watch _Puss in Boots 2_ instead; and if you’ve already seen it, just watch it again. It’s the movie _Wish_ wishes (haha) it was.
Not to mention a look that blends 3D- with 2D-aesthetics.
I mean - that's a trend going on for a while now. It's just unfortunate that Disney tried it for this of all films.
@@fermintenava5911The trend started from Spiderverse. Because of that movie, now everyone wants to do this 2D-3D mix. Idk if y’all notice but every time a fight scene happens in Puss in Boots, the animation changes and looks more strikingly similar to Spiderverse style. Which is a good thing. I think that animation style brings out more of what people are trying to show nowadays instead of just straight Pixar CGI.
@@angelbaby3342I’m so glad spiderverse’s animation has inspired other animation studios, because it’s just beautiful work.
Puss In Boots 2 also had a funny villain(Jack Horner), a villain you sympathized with(Goldy), AND a villain to be terrified of(Death)...
In "Wish", you felt NOTHING from the villain. And that to me is pretty bad.
I absolutely *HATE* the idea of more studios adopting that choppy on-twos style. Maybe I’ve got some sort of undiagnosed photosensitivity or something, but I had to walk out of _Puss in Boots: the Last Wish_ because the fight sequences made me nauseous. Spiderverse is also unbearable to watch for that same reason.
It's incredibly sad how the Fanart you've shown here has more visual identity than the actual movie
Well technically it is concept art but yeah sad
Concept art ALWAYS looks better than the finished product. It's easy to make something that looks like a painting when you don't have to make 130,000 of them. (That said, I wouldn't mind if Bob Iger had looked at _Klaus_ and said "OK, I guess we need to make all our movies look like that now.")
This was my main problem with the movie, too: What exactly do the people think they are getting out of this arrangement? Without this, no character motivations make sense & the king can't betray their trust because we don't know what that trust was based on.
A metaphor for the lottery. Instead of money its dreams. You give and give for the slime Chace you eventually get lucky
@@yonaryhernandez1833 Then what are they upset about? He is granting a small number of wishes like they thought.
@@AceOfSevens Maybe because their wishes isn't given back to them.
I think it would have been better if Magnifico had the power to grant wishes but as a tradeoff, could never grant wishes for himself. Over time he grew envious of all the people whose wishes he granted, giving them good health and love and prosperity and stuff like that, meanwhile he's just the guy who grants wishes, and without that he feels he has nothing. So he cooks up some scheme to manipulate people's wishes for his own gain or something like that.
In one youtube comment you've literally come up with a more compelling plot while it probably took them months to hammer theirs out. You know marketing is in the corner just shooting interesting shit down left and right.
Ooooooo I love it 😍
That is a super compelling idea, I like it. Instead of Asha basically feeling like she’s the villain half the time and Magnifico just flipping on a dime for no reason.
The fact a commentor managed to come up a better idea than whoever made the film itself. 😂😂
@@riotkittyYou can even have one of the main plot points being Asha helping people realize their dreams on their own which makes people realize they don't need King Magnifico to fulfill their wishes which sets off his downward spiral as less people come to him.
Definitely do that “what’s ruining Disney” video. What made Disney so magical are all the artists and talented storytellers that worked behind it, not the stupid executives and higher ups that thinks they know better
Yeah, Disney is already carving their tombstone at this point.
@@otakumarcus No, they are not. Disney has many more sources of income.
I think that Disney are just using their movies and TV shows as a laboratory, and you as the test subject.
@@cashewnuttel9054 what other sources of income. Everything ties back to the media they make in some way.
@@cashewnuttel9054they should stop running the tests then
Saying they have many sources of income is...kind of avoiding the issue. It needs to be understood that Disney has grown to be a behemoth yes, but its need for income has also grown, the danger it faces with diminishing returns is it WILL reach a point where it can't support itself anymore...and either the quality will go down even further, or pieces will have to be carved off the whole. Neither is a good look for what used to be a nearly bullet proof company.
Technically, Pocahontas is a "princess" if you apply that term broadly to mean "daughter (or daughter-in-law) of a hereditary ruler" regardless of the titles used by the particular culture. This was joked about in Moana. Regardless, Moana and Pocahontas are either princesses or the functional equivalent of princesses depending on how culture-specific you make the term.
I was sooo sure after the trailers that the movie will be about Asha having the same power as the king. And the king takes her as his heir, because their kingdom is not inherit trough bloodline but who borns with the same wish-granting power. And she have to learn magic from the king as crown pricess. The king already learned that not every wish can be granted, but Asha tries to grant every wish and it backfires on her and she have to learn it on the hard way and fix the wishes.
That's actually a pretty good storyline
This is so good
The concept art for this movie looked AMAZING. I can’t believe they didn’t use any of it. We were ROBBED. Why does Disney hate love stories so much?
Thing is, I thought they CHANGED that perception with Elementals. Because that was a beautiful love story IMO. The only other love story that touched me like that (non-princess related) was Wall-E.
They hate love stories because hetero love stories don't fit with THE MESSAGE and gay love stories aren't allowed in a lot of the markets they're aiming for, I honestly think it really is that simple.
@@angelbaby3342Elemental was wholesome and cheesy which I loved! A feel good cheesy romance c:
@@angelbaby3342 Ha, Wall-E was thrown under the bus as a "stalker" movie; Eva rejected him repeatedly, and when she went inactive he forcibly dragged her around acting like he was being sweet.
@@evage99really? Ive never seen anyone say that, it usually is highly praised
I think making Asha king's daughter would make their dynamic so much more interesting.
A daughter, princess that is supposed to follow her father legacy and powers, idolizing him all of her life, only to find he's not as selfless as she saw him, them having a conflict about what is right and wrong...
Me too but Disney is like “fucking no! Think of the goddamn children!!!”
@@mikaelaedwards9682Yeah
Good idea
I think Disney didn't go for that route because it would look too much like enchantment
Ya but the kid would not be black and that’s the most important part of a woke movie
Her design actually falls flat, it’s just another rapunzel, Elsa body type, face type. When you see her concept designs you’ll understand we could’ve had something new!! And actually diverse and appealing!! Corporate shmucks really do ruin any creativity these artists have….
It’d be interesting to see Asha steal a book and learn how to become a sorcerer herself. She could have a training montage and song (like Mulan) and even accidentally stumble across dark magic and struggle with feeling possessed by its powers. Eventually she’d learn how to handle her magic with the help of her friends (we have seven friends, we don’t need the star and goat too) and beat the king with her magic and community helping her.
I think the reason Magnifico and the Queen aren’t Asha’s parents is because Disney has a thing with making biological parents straight up villains. This is why when a villain is close to the hero in a familial way, it’s usually a stepparent, adoptive parent, or an evil aunt or uncle.
Notably, when an antagonist IS related to the hero, they are notably less straight up evil and more humanized, or end up redeemed in the end (Encanto is a big example).
Part of this is a marketing tactic: parents may complain about a movie where a child rebels a parent, or where a parent must be put in jail for committing certain crimes. Basically, anything that pits parent and child against each other in a way that can’t be solved with reconciliation is stigmatized. This is primarily because I think a lot of Disney parents would find issue with a child “rebelling” against a parent in a permanent sense.
It's because of China. Coco while loved, had issues from Miguel disobeying his Grandmother.
Yeah, Disney, take some risks for Christ's sake!
@@swishfish4289 it’s not just a China thing, I’ve seen parents like that in the US too
@@-AirKat-i've seen parents like that in any other country tho
I can’t blame them for that, Because people literally complained that turning red was trying to “influence children to rebel against their parents will”
And yes, I know turning red is technically a pixar movie, but Disney owns Pixar so I feel like it balances out
I love how disney became bland and disconnected from what the audience wants, cause it makes room for indie studios and real people (not giant souless corporations) to make movies and animations that people actually want.
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Indeed an indie movie, bringing the nostalgia feelings, 2D and 3D blend perfectly to bring out how Disney changed over 100 years.
Bring back the animals talking, wishing on the star, villians 😂. Those memories are never forgotten ❤.
I scrolled all the comments and most of them just expressed the disappointments. I can tell they just want to bring back those memories for us, those characters 🎉🎉 .
This movie is not having a very big climax, but it is a very special movie to me.
Disney being like this makes me feel so confident that I can do better
@@FleuryKaprizovFan_Anyone who is passionate about what they do is capable of doing better
That‘s a great way to see it!
Why didn't they do a 'Fantasia 2024' for the 100 thing? That would have been perfect! They could have filled it with tons of lovely music and the whole POINT is the beautiful animation being mixed with the lovely classical music!
But the Fantasia movies were never blockbusters and especially the first one was a big financial disappointment.
@@Furienna Okay. And? Wish was a terrible choice through and through, especially as a celebration movie. You gonna make a celebration movie, may as well make a movie where the whole point is beautiful animation.
"Wish" happened to do well or really well in countries as diverse as France, Spain, United Kingdom, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.
You have to look outside your North American box sometimes before you call something a "terrible choice"...
I’ll always be mad about the changes made to this movie, especially considering that the villains were originally meant to be the king and queen as a power couple and the star was supposed to be a humanoid love interest for Asha
I recently learned that Disney did the two old Fantasia films to prove that animation was an artistic medium and not just for kids, by experimenting with different styles and stories. It's literally better than what they've come up recently and I believe they should try that sort of stuff again.
....without the racist stuff
I agree, the “Rite of Spring” segment is one of my favorite animated sequences, and is criminally underrated in my opinion.
Yeah, I'd go for a 3rd Fantasia movie ❤
Both were huge financial failures.
@@bobosmith101lol
At this point, I doubt Disney will ever redeem themselves
Yeah, they’ll be out of business sooner or later.
@@otakumarcusYup. Apple will buy Disney you will see
@@otakumarcusthat’s probably unlikely, they still have theme parks, merchandise, old Disney movies and Disney+ as well as upcoming movies like don’t think they will be out anytime soon
@@otakumarcusYeah
@@otakumarcusI hope so
The schaffrillas comment got me 🤣 13:13
i went to the cinema with my mate. At the end of the movie there was a debate within all the people that was in the cinema. Was curious, we we all talking to each other about it. We all kinda thought the same, that Asha was the villian, selfish and only cared about her relative's wishes and nothing else. I mean when she went to "free" the wishes for the first time, she just went directly for her relative's ones. We all agreed that we felt bad for Magnifico, that before the book possessed him, he was kinda right, yeah a bit narcissist and so, but he let the people live there for free, everyone mostly looked happy, he did all for them, he was facing trauma. And they just questioned him, they didn't cared about Rosas as he did, only about wishes. Then the queen... she knew the book possessed him and at the end of the movie she didn't ehen felt bad for the man she "loves" and juat throwed him in the dungeon. While Asha, the selfish one got everything she wanted and more. And sge learned absolutely nothing. She is the sale from start to finish, no change at all.
Oh bull, they only seemed happy because King Magnifico had lobotomized them and destroyed their personalities so he could stay in power.
Give me one example of when he cared about Rosas and not only about himself.
It's about time we get a brand-new studio founded by ex-disney employees. Seriously, things like this worked wonders in the past and I think it's prime time for it to happen now. They need a hard reboot so bad
Ah you mean like Don Bluth movies and Dreamworks studios
If Don Bluth and DreamWorks did it, why can’t anyone else?
The others mentioned Don Bluth and Dreamworks and I agree. Isn't it funny how Disney pretty much created their own competition via disgruntled workers?
@@rachelfay9582 it can get expensive, artists aren't already paid well, throw in the fact many people rather go for AI than hire an artist for instant content (an impossibility back in the 80s and 90s), and many people are currently on strike so they lost their jobs. throw in UA-cam is the biggest, most popular and therefore most viable video hosting website but the algorithm absolutely HATES animators and artists, throw in the video automatically being labelled for kids if it has any shred of vibrant color and the problems that arise when it's not actually for kids...
these past few years has been rough for artists I think...
though yes it'd be nice to see some of these people "go indie." would love to see a big indie scene like the way videgames get.
What’s funny is that every time a major former employee leaves to do their own thing, within a few years Disney suddenly gets massively better. Not long after Don Bluth left, we got Little Mermaid to kickstart their renaissance period. And Dreamworks coming in gave us gems like Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo and Stitch for at least a few years that are a return to form. But now they just seem like they’ve been resting on their laurels for over a decade since Frozen
This film felt like what Disney believed the fans wanted by crossing off a bunch of boxes on a checklist without putting much effort into any of the tasks on the list.
DISNEY STUDIOS IS DEAD 😒
[×] POC Main Character
[×] Strong Willed Independent Female Protagonist Main Character
[×] Male/white main generic villain
[×] Kingdom filled with different races that come across as flat and out of place for their medieval style fantasy setting.
[×]7 Dwarves filling every race box including the 'lazy white guy trope' being the one to betray them all
[ ] Coherant storyline that properly entertains the target demographic
@@lillianahunter1199
You're missing the point.
@@austinreed7343No I think you are my friend
@@lillianahunter1199
No you are missing the point.
How I would see the story better: Kingdom has a years long belief that once a month, a star will shine brighter than the moon and if you wish to it by singing the traditional melody with your wish as the words, the wish will be granted. One day however, the star lost its light and stopped giving wishes. The Kingdom fell into a chaos of sadness and broken wishes until a young skilled sorcerer came and started granting wishes of the people in need. He also saved a very sick young woman; she fell inlove with her savior and later they got married. After some time he was given the title King and was beloved by all. Once he became the King, the melody of wishes once singed commonly became forgotten to all, except for one family, who happened to still remember the melody of wishes. Asha and her grandpa were living in a small house in the capital of the Kingdom of wishes. Grandpa wanted the melody not to be forgotten, so he told Asha to ask the King to Grant his wish for the song to be always remembered. Asha went and asked the King, but to her surprise, the King refused to grant the wish for it being not good for the Kingdom. Suspicious, Asha followed the King throught the halls of the wish tower in secret, until they were in a room full of unfulfilled wishes. Asha was shocked and confused, so realising that she saw something that was not supposed to be seen, Asha went back home scared and dissapointed. She was sad to tell her grandpa the bad news, but to her surprise, the grandpa had no idea what wish she was even talking about. Utterly confused, she couldn't sleep that night and went out for a walk. She walked a long time until she was at the top of the mountain. Only then did she realise that her silly little goat was following her so she sat down and gently hugged him while gazing at the sky full of stars. Asha remembered the tale of Melody of wishes and the star her grandpa used to always tell her so she started singing the melody of wishes' melody. After a while she stopped singing and whispered, "Oh dear star of wishes, please shine bright like you used to before. Shine like you used to when granting our wishes". She waited for a while, then laughed lightly at her own foolishness and was just about to turn around, when something very bright and shiny in the sky caught her attention.
My favorite part is how the tagline of the movie is "Be careful what you wish for" But the movie literally says that everything you wish for is fine and don't worry about it.
The concept of the movie had an evil royal couple and a romance between Asha and the Star who had a male form. An awesome concept I can think of is the King and Queen were both evil and Asha is their daughter so she grew up thinking that stealing wishes is the right thing. Then the Star boy comes and has to help teach her the right way
But that's mansplaining! xD
Whaaaaaaat???
We should have gotten that story!!! That’s actually a really good concept! Disney’s just afraid of taking risks nowadays and just tend to stick to repetitive tropes for the sake of corporate greed. 😕
Oh my God I would've loved it if it was like this. It's so much more than the generic story and a romance would be nice to see again!
Could also have had the opportunity to make the Star non-binary since it was a magical being.... Just sayin'.... But no absolutely NOT any sort of romance is strictly FORBIDDEN BY DISNEY romance??? NAH.
It's so disheartening to see, really, when *Disney* was the studio who produced Princess and the Frog, Lady and the Tramp, Aristocats, Hell, *HERCULES* and those films have, in my personal opinion, some of the sweetest love stories. Also also, Asha being the daughter to villains and overcoming perhaps what she might have been taught in an effort to become a better person could have been supremely interesting as well. So, SO many missed opportunities.
@@DraidensDenI'm non-binary, so I would've loved to contribute to that character's experience/attitude/thought process.
I'd love it if Asha asked if they were a boy or a girl or which pronouns to use to refer to them, and they're like "...what's that?" because how would they know what gender is or what it means to be a boy or a girl? And after Asha tries to explain, in the end they just shrug and say "...I'm a star."
(And it has the added bonus that if parents were to get upset, people could just say "oh so you're saying that *stars* are boys or girls????")
The original concept had Star as a mischievous shapeshifter who took human form and might have had a relationship with Asha. Which is… honestly kind of interesting.
I would've preferred that WAY more
I WISH that it was like that
Yep.
Instead, what we got is just a Luma knockoff.
That would’ve been really cool! Especially the design with the cape of stardust? OUGH, ten times more interesting
kinda reminds me of the game fantasy life with the chatty butterfly companion
13:23 im sorry but the schafrillas reference had me laughing 😭 saber is an amazing youtuber
I saw one scene of the movie where the main girl sees the King in his explanation about the wishes he wouldn't grant. And right up until he suddenly snapped with the "Because they are mine!" Greed flash, I was on his side. They were happy without their wishes and then suddenly because Plot demanded, they were suddenly unhappy about it.
it's insane that tangled the series had a better soundtrack than disney's 100th year anniversary feature movie
Considering they got pop song writers to do it instead of musical theatre writers, not too surprising.
Dunno why Disney seems to hate musical theatre these days
I knew this soundtrack was in trouble the second I found out that one of the songwriters wrote Justin Beiber's "Sorry" song. Calling that a red flag would be an understatement.
Alan Menken didn’t become an EGOT winner to be known as the ‘Tangled the Series guy’ lmao
The one song I like is This Wish because Ariana DeBose. But TTS slaps so hard
Varian and Cass pulling up to sing the best songs ever made by Disney(Nothing left to lose,ready as ill ever be,crossing the line,waiting in the wings, and let me make you proud)
16:50 I've been having this "We were robbed! There was so much potential!" feeling since I saw the Frozen 1 concept art. Seems like Disney is just so afraid of taking a minimal risk that they do their movies boring and predictable.
Ever since the succes of Tangled, Disney seems to be oppsessed with forcing every animated movie they make into the "princess" mold, even though they had much more diverse line up of movies during the nineties to 2000s. Movies like Lion King, Lilo and Stitch, Tarzan or the Goofy movie varied much more in tone, story and setting than the movies we got in the last 10 years. If an idea or a movie doesn't fit the princess mold it gets dropped by Disney.
Imagine if Elsa had been evil omfg I dream about that
@@KingOfGaymesthat would’ve been so much better than the whole “the most powerful kind of love is sisterly love/familial love….” bull
its almost as if people don’t naturally have familial love built into them… disney srsly disappoints me sometimes 😭😭
FINALLY GOD I HATE THAT WE DIDNT GET THE FROZEN 1 CONCEPT ART AND NOW THE FRANCHISE IS JUST A CASH GRAB
now don’t do frozen like that girl💀💀
Your idea IS better than what they gave, but if Disney puts out another 'my family is the REAL villain' 'My parents not apologizing is the REAL villain' 'My family legacy is holding me back and I need to be set free' type movie I will burst into flames. It went from every Disney parent is deceased to every Disney parent is evil and/ or doesn't understand their kids and is therefore a villain to be defeated. Can we get an Incredibles revival arc? Where sometimes your family has your back and you wear color coordinated outfits while punching psychos in the face together please?
I hadn't thought of that; precious few Disney movies tout family as being truly important. That make me sad. Well, more sad.
For sure. Disney parents lately are all either jerks or dead. Wish and Encanto were very welcome exceptions to that.
@@FunFilmFare While Mirabels parents werent jerks, im not sure they were helpful either. I only watched it once but from what i remember her mom was the toxic positive mom stereotype and i dont remember her dad at all.
@Koranthus Mirabels parents were both wonderful. It was abuela who had a toxic influence on all of them. The most they were truly guilt of was overlooking how much abuelas pressure was hurting them inside, and that was hard to see because nobody expressed it openly
Are we going to ignore the fact that the song At All Cost was obviously meant to be the love duet for Asha and concept Star boy. The demo even says love you while the movie changes it to promise you
How did saberspark write a more compelling story in 5 minutes that Disney couldn’t do in 3 years of development??
As a world-builder i've thought of better plots and storiest than Disney by accident when im about to go to bed
No restrictions or mandates from corporate above.
I have a buncha half baked WIPs still bouncing around in my computer that have a better premise than what Wish gave us. And that’s not tooting my own horn either, I’m pretty critical of my work.
@@LoneSilverW0lf Whats WIP again?
"We've discussed your pitch document Saberspark. It is a really fantastic pitch. We're going to make some revisions to align it better with our audiences and the goals of our stakeholders."
That plus tons of compromises during development is why.
Okay so, here's how I'd rewrite it
Asha is the princess of the kingdom, and both the parents are evil. She's much calmer and shier, preferring to stay quiet, and she's always had everything she could possibly want, but she still doesn't feel complete. She finds out the nearby town is struggling, as they used to make wishes on the stars and have lavish feasts thrown by the previous king, and she realizes her parents haven't been granting wishes like they promised. They stole all the wishing stars from the night sky, but only one remains, which she saves from captivity. The plot is her learning to be more outspoken, learning what her true wish is (to make her people happy), and facing her parents alone. She would win, become the new ruler of the kingdom, and help show everyone how to be more self-reliant and how to make their wishes come true themselves. A time skip would happen at the end. The wishing star has returned to the sky, and though people make their wishes, they don't rely on it anymore, and instead rely on themselves to survive. I'm kinda just spitballing but still, ideas.
Better than what Disney did 😂😂
That would've worked out better. I mean, come on, Disney!
Wow...! UA-cam commenters could do these Disney execs' jobs better than they can 😃
@@fartinfpooping8801 lol, yeah!
@@Kelsey1987urs is kinda bad
From the premise alone, I expected something along the lines of
Asha grants all the wishes and, surprise, it doesn't work, because the wishes contradict each other or people made the wish when they were younger and have now moved on in life.
If they had kept the humanoid star, he could have been a bit of a trickster, maybe he wants to grant as many wishes as possible and tricks Asha into helping him.
Magnifico could have been an interesting villain in that regard. Like you said, granting all wishes could have been bad for several reasons.
This might be a horrible idea, but It could have been cool if they did like a ready player one moment and had the wish king (don’t remember his name) turn evil and start breaking reality and start using his magic to pull the villains from all the other Disney movies. And the wishing stars see this and does the same but with all the progtaganist to help combat all the villains- idk I’m just spit balling ☠️
Who WANTS Saber to make a 'What's RUINING Disney/Pixar?'
At this point I feel like Disney needs a hard hit to remember what actually made them become the massive empire today, because a lot of their films lately have been suffering so hard, there isn't any magic left in them
Short video. D.I.E mandates and spineless corpos whose only motivation is seeing numbers go up on a chart
capitalism fam, that's what's ruining it
Their focusing too much on the merch, Disney world, etc that they forgot what makes a good game. The same thing is currently happening with Pokémon.
they're detached. So focused on pushing out products that they are overworking while underpaying their staff for faster production not really thinking about if it clashes with another story or with itself. They stopped trying because they know that as long as the animation is somewhat decent kids will watch it and want all their products. They thought of the kids first and their Disney adults last, which is why the best Disney adults get out of this are the many references of past stories and movies they made. To many it feels like a backhanded compliment reminding people that Disney knows they can do great but just doesn't care.
Honestly, if this ship doesn't turn around soon, it could become a "what RUINED Disney" and I can see this exact scenario happening sadly.
The Frozen 2 documentary, Into The Unknown on D+, was probably far more revealing of the cracks that were present in WDAS than they likely believed back when it was filmed. It genuinely feels like Chris Buck and the others were so directionless and aimless with this project, coming up with so many ideas that were swiftly rejected by executives, being unable to come up with a strong story and narrative, got far too ambitious with an art style that was well-intentioned *and* being hampered by an unmovable deadline just in time for Disney's 100th anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if Wish was them throwing together something workable from the mess of loose concepts and scenes that they had come up with but were unable to combine properly just to get *something* out before Disney's release date. It's likely that so much work was thrown out multiple times in trying to find something that gelled. I wonder if test audiences were just as icy?
I was thinking about this exactly. It seems like a frozen 2 disaster all over again, almost eerie in its similarities. The release date being unable to be moved makes this similar too.
Jennifer Lee just isn't cut out to lead Disney animation. They also need to stop forcing release dates upon their creatives.
I don't know. Frozen 2 had a lot of interesting and outright dark ideas. It was a disorganized mess, but not empty. Wish feels completely hollow. Executives stuck their finger in and scooped out whatever substance the creatives put in there.
@@isirlaughsalot2675 or start planning way earlier so artists have enough time.
Wait what documentary is this please tell? 🙂
@@FabulousCookiInto the Unknown: Making Frozen 2
If I were to change the movie here's the story I would go with.
Intro: The Kingdom of Rosas is ruled by a king who has the ability to turn wishes into a reality. However, due to personal greed he and his wife keep most of the wishes and came up with the excuse that only one wish can be granted a month or else he could lose his powers. The reason he keeps most of the wishes is because he can turn them into energy to make him more powerful. The king uses the magic to stay in power and lets his wife pick the wishes to grant so long as they can be twists to benefit the King and Queen equally, if not more, than they benefit the people. (Could actually begin the movie with a villain song between the king and queen explaining why the stars give them power, how they met, and more about their personality.)
Act 1: Asha is either an actual princess or already the King's intern. She understands that the King refuses to grant every wish because of greed but doesn't speak up about it because she believes that she's insignificant and doesn't have the ability to take a stand against the king. One night, a group of unknown commoners sneak into the castle and steal one of their wishes back in hopes of making it come true themselves which causes the now rageful King to send Asha after the wish without yet explaining why it's so important. Asha goes after the wish and steals it back but gets lost in the forest and is separated from the commoners. She gets upset and sings a song about a wish she's always had which managed to summon a Wishing Star. The wishing star (in human form) finds out that Asha had wished to be able to make a change but when asked about what she means Asha is unable to give a straight answer because her creativity and true desires have been muted and censored by the King. The wishing star sees that Asha needs some help getting her wish and decides to stick by her and help her figure out what she wants to wish on, (Around here you could include an Aladdin reference I guess?) The Wishing Star sings a funny little song, he uses his magic and the animals all join in for the song, the wishing star gets excited and makes a wave of stardust with Alerts the king that a wishing star has fallen. The king reveals through exposition and a conversation with his wife that the Wishing Star could make them the most important people in the world if they harvested the wishing star into stardust which they could use to make hundreds of their own wishes come true (the king could explain that stardust is the essence or something of the Wishing Star and that stardust can be wished upon as well and can usually grant the wish since it's straight from a wishing star).
Act 2: Meanwhile, Asha and the wishing star are bonding and the Star learns that Asha doesn't have many chances to express her creativity and so the Star decides to teach her how to do some art or something creative like poetry (If they really wanted to they could to a song where the Wish sings and slowly helps include Asha in the song where she delivers the final chorus and starts to feel more confident about herself). During this time the Star also explains that "Only a wish from something truly Pure of Heart can be granted by a Wishing Star" and also have the power to grant other people's wishes. Asha is finally able to find a way back home but as she's approaching she finds wanted posters for the star and learns that the Wishing Star is being hunted down for the promise of a granted wish. Asha decides to disguise the Wishing Star to look like a human and some goofiness ensues as she sneaks him into the kingdom and the castle before accidentally running into the king. The king is skeptical about the Wishing Star, not actually knowing what it is, but assumes He's just a friend of Asha's and moved along. The wishing star and Asha go to the King's laboratory/inner chambers and the Wishing Star finds all of the wish bubbles floating around. He gets upset and tries to grant some of them but Asha, who's been told that many Wishes are actually dangerous, tries to stop the Wishing Star and a fight breaks out. The Wishing Star sends out another wave of stardust which causes not just most of the wishes to suddenly be granted, but alerts the king that the Wishing Star is inside of the castle. The king comes and takes Asha to the dungeon before taking the Star to another part of the castle so he can be put back in his star form and turned into a normal Wishing Star. (Around here the king could also have a shorter song about harvesting the song which could either be a shorter reprise of an earlier song or something else)
3. Asha is in the dungeon, crying and feeling upset that she couldn't get herself to calm down and let the Wishing Star grant the wishes even though she knew that not much real harm would come. The Queen comes by and has a chat with Asha, trying to have the girl see some good in the situation and get her to pledge her loyalty again to the queen and king but fails. The Queen sings a song that's pretty much all about calling Asha selfish and stupid and saying she should never have gotten the wishing star. The Queen also sings about how she works and helps the king because she loves him but is cut off when Asha sings about how the King only wanted power and let his wife join him because she picked the Wishes. The queen, now unsure of where to stand, says a few lines before leaving Asha alone in the Dungeon. Asha sings/speaks a short reprise of her original wishing song (Maybe even a reprise of her song "So I Make This Wish") before she wishes that "I could make a change". Everything goes quiet for a moment before underneath her skin, her heart starts to glow a soft golden yellow color like the Wishing Star. Asha remembers that only someone "Pure of Heart" can make a true wish come true and it fills Asha with hope. Asha has her Girl Power moment and she manages to use her newly found creative freedom to find a creative way out of the cell. Outside of the castle, the king is getting ready to harvest the star and obstain the stardust. The queen goes to inspect the star and ask the king how it works but is pulled back by the King which is where the Queen realizes that the King truly only wants the power. The Queen leaves to go get Asha from the dungeon but runs into her as she's trying to escape, the two have a little bit where they explain where they were going and what happened before they settle on a trucs. Asha said she wants to get back the Wishing Star but the Queen says that the King is unstoppable because it's just the two of them. Asha and the Queen think before they hear something outside and see that most of the towns folk have had their wishes granted and the Queen and Asha make a plan to lead the Commoners to the king. The Queen says that the King wants them all to go to the palace where the star is being harvested and are successful. Everybody makes their way to the king who is about to harvest the star when everybody comes in and sees the king. The king tells them that nothing can stop him and has his evil monologue about how he's worked too hard to get here and won't let anybody stop him. The queen tries to reason with him but is told off by the king. Asha steps in and talks about how she's learned so much thank's to the star and reveals to the townsfolk that the King only grants wishes that help him which causes the commoners to get upset. The townsfolk riot, trying to stop the king. A big fight happened and Asha is about to free the Wishing Star only for the spell complete and the Wishing Star returns to his Star form before he turns into stardust that spills into Asha's hands. Asha is filled with rage and anger and grief while the king gets all of the Stardust and wishes to make himself the most important person in the world. And the wish is almost accomplished, except Asha stick has a single piece of stardust in her hands. She gets her solo and does a final reprise of "So I Make This Wish" and her wish of being able to "make a change" comes true. Asha's pure heart gloss again along with her clothes and hair before she sends out a wave of stardust through the kingdom and everybody's wishes are granted yet again only this time it's not to benefit anybody. Insert a cool montage of people getting their wishes granted and how they use them to help others or improve their lives. The king also gets his wish granted, the wish to be the most important person in the world, only instead of being the most important person to everybody, he loses all of his magic and is left with his wife. When asked what does this mean the wife explains that "he's the most important person to her" because the King's wife is his world. Asha and the Towns people get their final number. A few references or easter eggs are seen/shown, and the movie ends with the message that it's important that creative freedom isn't controled or censored because if it is you lose the point of it being creative.
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Omfg I love this
Watched wish on thanksgiving. It was so mid it felt kinda surreal. Like the very overused and stereotypical plot. Everything felt pretty meaningless and had no thought put in, like it was quickly strewn together. And I was sooo excited and made my family go because I was ecstatic to finally see a new character instead of another remake or live action. More sad then anything, especially since I never got to experience the original Disney days or really anything like that. I would give away my life savings to live in the 2000’s.
Simple plot changes that could have saved this story:
1. Have Asha already be Magnifico's apprentice and learning magic
2. Give Magnifico limited power to grant wishes which would fuel his self serving choices
3. Magnifico also got his powers from a star long ago and went down the path of containing it as a resource
Even if you left everything the same these simple changes could have at least made the plot and themes make some kind of cohesive sense.
These make a lot of sense. Would've made for a much better story
The 3rd one would have changed everything, I definitely want to see a backstory of Magnifico like this.
Honestly, I don’t think any of that is the most important
The most important thing that this movie fails to do is get us to CARE ABOUT ROSAS. We need to care about Asha’s family, her friends, because that is her whole motivation.
I could ignore a lot of bullshit if I’m at least INVESTED in the story. If I at least CARE what happens next.
I think it would be nice to give Magnifico and Amaya a son who is training to become king and thus the kingdom's wish granter. He could be Asha's love interest.
But nah they tried to make there own shang tsung
I would have thought for Disney’s 100th film, they would have done a 2D biopic of Walt Disney; would’ve made a great excuse to use Mickey Mouse as a protagonist.
Now that sounds like a great idea for a movie. I'm surprised Disney hasn't made something like that yet.
@@michaelstrong5383Disney is way too creatively disinclined to even think of something like that now
Lmao imagine Mickey mouse stealing ideas , chainsmoking war profiteering and hating jews they ain't gonna do anything about old Walt he is not PC and profitable
@@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES Walt Disney did not hate Jews. You can kind of make an argument with the whole "stealing ideas" topic if you consider almost all of Disney's works up to a point to be adaptations of already existing works. And yes, he was an avid smoker. But he was not antisemitic, this was already debunked.
@@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLESnot to mention advocating for b9mbers and hatong the nazis!
The concept of sacrificing the memory of your wish for a chance to have it granted, without remembering making the wish itself, could actually work and be pretty uplifting or really fucking dark, depending on how it's implemented. If you still remember why you needed to make the wish, but only forget the act of meeting the king and actually making it, then the wish coming true would feel like a result of your hard work or luck smiling upon you, leaving you content. In this scenario, the king might be revealed later in the film to be a fraud, lacking any substantial magic beyond pretty light effects and leaving the wishes up to chance - thus, an actual wish-granting creature appearing in his kingdom would understandably freak him out and make him do drastic things to stay in power, which could be a commentary on how real-life politicians often rely on fake promises and stealing credit, and the horrible things a paranoid head of the government can be capable of when they feel that their power is in jeopardy. In that case, the message could be that magic is not the end all be all, and people have always been capable of attaining their goals through realistic means, with the star's power maybe used to grant something specifically unrealistic at the end (like breaking a magical curse placed on someone by the king after he goes full dark magic mode), with the more mundane and attainable goals left to be fulfilled by the people themselves.
Now, for the darker take: in exchange for making the wish come true, the person forgets why they made the wish in the first place, all feelings that had led to them making it now buried deep within their consciousness. Still, the wish and all the benefits of it are now granted; and if your mother is healthy once again, does it really matter that you have forgotten why you wanted her to be healthy? If you have the money to buy the house of your dreams now, does it matter that you have forgotten why you needed a house like that? If you are now a famous singer, is it bad that you have forgotten why you love to sing? While the benefits are still there and still make sense, this leads to generations of people who have attained what they wanted, but feel no joy from having attained it. The protagonist lives in a kingdom where people seem to be constantly dissatisfied with their daily life and missing a spark, so she feels like the king's wish-granting reign is justified: the people are miserable, they need magic! But then she finds out the truth and realizes that the most miserable people she knows are in fact the ones who had their wishes granted: a young man who constantly squabbles with his elderly mother after having forgotten the love he had for her, a lonely widow who has forgotten that the house she is constantly trying to sell is the dream home she once wished for with her late husband, a washed-up self-absorbed singer who forgot the love he had for his art and is only left with the money and fame aspects of it... As it turns out, trying to magically force your wish to come true will hurt more than it's worth, and the king, a neutral figure in this story, has always warned people about the consequences, they just didn't listen. The star in this story could actually be another member of the king's wish-granting species, who came to bring him home after seeing how unhappy he's been on Earth, but the king protests, still believing that humans, incomplete as they are, need his help and guidance and won't be able to accomplish things without his magical help... Only to be proven wrong by the protagonists refusing to use magic to solve their issues, and gracefully accepting his departure, leaving humans of the kingdom to tend to themselves and regain their autonomy.
I wish we could have gotten something like this instead.
You know, Disney could have done the "too nice" trope, where the king is so kind that it is harming the city of Rosas. He fulfills EVERY wish and feels underappreciated. Asha could have been the voice of pragmatism while all the city is in chaos due to their wishes being fulfilled one after the other. This song matchs the vibe. Also, the line 'be careful what you wish for', on the movie's poster would be matching the theme, this way.
I work at a movie theater, time to time I get to hear what the customers think of the movie they watched. Many customers have told me how disappointed they were with Wish, they've even told me that Trolls was better. 💀
Needless to say, I'll always enjoy their feedback.
Lmao thank you for the laugh imagine being beaten by the movie infamous for the best one liner “Singing killed my grandma okay?!”
@@LouriiiYeah funny 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if my family thinks the new Trolls is better than Wish, especially since we grew up during N*SYNC’s popularity. But I’ll still give both and Migration a chance. Anything I’m missing?
@@Louriii Tbf, Trolls had a decent plot and a good plot twist villain with a decent motive
@I loved Wish. I want to see Migration.
Actually...with Asha becoming a fairy godmother at the end...doesn't she literally take the Kings place? She picks and chooses whos wish she grants based on her whims and if you take into account how things work in Cinderella, it leaves me to believe that she's probably granting far less wishes than the king was in this film.
To be fair that was never REALLY the conflict? The conflict was that the king was hoarding the wishes. Not returning them back to the people. Asha doesn’t have a problem with the idea that the king isn’t granting every wish, she fully acknowledges that it might be dangerous, but she believes that he shouldn’t keep their wishes hostage. That people should be allowed to pursue their dreams with or without magic.
@@cartoonishidealism582but say he gives a dangerous wish back, that means that person knows what they wanted to do, so that person fully well could carry on pursuing that dangerous wish, for example, if I wanted someone to die, but I had the wish taken and had no knowledge of ever wanting to do that because I gave away that wish to the king, should the king in good faith give that horrible wish back and carry on with the knowledge that there’s a possibility they’ll do the heinous wish on their own?
@@featgorgon3985
But the point was that the king’s view of what wishes were “bad” was incredibly skewed. The wishes he claimed were harmful weren’t really so, he was just selfish and paranoid.
Moral of the story: Fascism works as long as your the right kind of fascist. Hero does the same Thing the King does but it’s fine because she’s the hero.
@@nixxdrayeah, he shouldn’t be allowed to decide what’s good and bad because he’d obviously favor things that benefitted him and didn’t upset the status quo, which was him holding all the power. He’s biased.
You know for something that's supposed to be the celebration of a companies 100 year lifespan, you think they'd make something all grandiose. Like, Prince of Egypt level of quality in terms of animation pioneering, music, and story telling. Instead, to quote the memes, we got a Disney movie from Wish.
my hot take is that magnifico is actually...good. he is, in my opinion, not intended to be a new age villain. he has the flashiness of one, but he is created in the style of a classic villain. he lies, cheats, struts around, is two seconds from going full evil from not getting his way...hes basically a cross between all of the beloved ones. Jafar's motivation is vaguely concern for the kingdom but he just wants power. Ursula wants revenge against triton for...some reason. Maleficent is just pissed she wasnt invited, gothel wants to stay young forever...yes, they all have backstories, but the backstory is often only alluded to rather than delved because theyre not intended to be redeemed or forgiven. magnifico is the same. hes not a twist villain or a sympathetic one. He was very blatantly lying about the safety thing, because he enjoys the control. i mean, thats what his whole thing with the song before that scene was, he was waxing about the wishes, how much he loved them. not his people, but the wishes themselves, the power they have, how they make him feel. hes a narcissistic jackass and isnt intended to be relatable, just an asshole. he does present in an upbeat cheery way, but thats the new disney feel because they cant queercode the villains anymore
...my secondary hot take is that if you view the movie through a different lens, it clicks into place. Here's my advice to anyone who hasnt seen it: view Asha as an independant creator. View magnifico as the walt disney corporation.
Disney takes tales and artists dreams of telling their stories, greenlights a couple at a time, and the rest? laid to waste. magnifico grants a couple wishes, says thats good, and then gets mad when others clamor for their wishes to be granted or returned. the wishes are artists projects, their darlings. Disney takes their projects, says "thats ours forever and going into our vault, hope you didnt want this back!" and owns said art until forever, never to be free to be reused somewhere else, since disney has a policy that while you work for them, all your art is theirs.
asha is a champion of artists rights to freedom and expression. magnifico is corporate meddling
that is a really interesting and pretty cool view of the movie. That being said, its hella ironic that it fits into place when the wish movie is meant to be the 100 year anniversary as well as the fact that executives sticking their noses into everything botched what could have been a very compelling film (based on the concept art)
Not for 100 years celebration
The concept art posted on Twitter was a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE missed opportunity😫 The human Star (looks similar to Asha's grandfather) and Asha could've been friends, working together to stop the evil King and Queen's threat or something. Asha's grandfather could've been reincarnated to a human Star, the story might be 10x better.
There's noting wrong with references and/or in-jokes. Genie did comedic references throughout Aladdin, but it was well-written since he predicts the future.
A King and Queen villain duo would have been a whole lot of fun.
@@michaelstrong5383 it'd have also been something new, Disney hasn't had a villain couple before
@@michaelstrong5383oh my gosh missed opportunity.
at least the queen didn't turn out to be secretly evil
Y’know what Disney should be advertising? Twisted Wonderland. It’s literally the *only* good and original Disney thing as of recently
They announced a twisted wonderland anime a couple years ago and haven't given any further information since.. Hopefully if it does happen and makes its way to more western disney fans then it could finally squash the "villain anime boy dating sim" allegations lol
@@NaokoMarie there’s a game and it’s actually super easy to play. And not a dating game, lol.
God my friends are feral about that game.
Nahh, nahh you're absolutely right
Yes! My thoughts exactly!
The star's magic being able to make people feel warm and joyful is a reference to how modern Disney movies do not do any of that.
I will never not be ok that we didn’t get Magnifico’s full backstory. It seemed like such a tragic past - his village burned down (by who?), he lost his entire family, and fled to rebuild a Kingdom where he could keep people safe from the same fate with his own two hands. Hmm, doesn’t sound like a bad guy to me. Maybe expand upon it a little Disney? 🙄
Yeah I found it hard to really be upset with him esp after he used the *spoiler* with no sign of redemption. Kinda mad how they handled him in the end and truly see him as a victim
Thank you 🙏 yes! The biggest problem was them cutting so much from the early screening showing the progression of magnefico as he was transcending to villain status
They probably have a sequel planned that would be 100% more popular than Wish. A story about how a villain was born. Just like Magnificent.
Wish 2: Rise of Magnifico or "Magnifico" a streaming mini-series? why give what you want now when they can turn this into a tepid media franchise? And the public will gobble it all up anyway…
I think once upon a time did it better with rumple with him being a really likable antivillain. God carlyle owns that. And he is also like having a kud adaption agency , whuch fitsxwithin his backstory, makes sense, of aman ivercome by corruption odf dark dealy that also is very motherly,but not always good.
Something that Disney could have done was make Asha have a VILLAIN ARC then have a REDEMPTION ARC, near the end of the movie of her realization that she thought all the GOOD DOING was hurting everyone. King Magnífico would try to help her OR make realize that she can’t wish all harm to go away as harm will come full circle, like Yin and Yang “In all there is good there is evil, in all there is evil there is good.” DISNEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS!!!!!
they're way too afraid to go out of their comfort zone to do anything like that, but at the same time they don't realize NOT going out of their comfort zone is what's shooting them in the foot
@@_ravenwyrd_
And the moment they go out of comfort zone, they go back in opposite direction, going full retard in woke and other bullshit
Yes! I've also heard that some people think that asha is magnifico's daughter, I feel like if they had made that true, it would have made a lot more sense considering the story, especially with this idea of making asha evil too! I heard they were originally gonna make the Queen evil and not just the king, but the king still would have been more evil. In my opinion, that would have made the movie a lot more interesting than it turned out to be!(and don't quote me on that because I don't know if it was true or not, just what I've heard)(edit: lol there was a random emoji on the middle of my comment idk where that came from but I got rid of it)
@@tabitharust304They could have another Disney princess with that :D
I saw the potential for a very interesting and nuanced look at what it means to wish and grant wishes. Magnifico starts the movie as a very sympathetic king who’s overprotective of his people’s wishes. Asha is an idealist who thinks no matter the wish they should be able to come true. I was hoping to see Asha have all the wishes be granted, and we see utter chaos break out with some people having conflicting wishes or outright malicious ones. The movie even poses interesting questions it could have asked (what if we change our wish?). Asha and Magnifico would need to team up to fix it and along the way both come to appreciate the other’s perspective. But no, Magnifico just turns cartoonishly, irredeemably evil at the drop of a fucking hat for literally no reason whatsoever.
It's actually so sad how they could fck up something as important as their 100th anniversary like this
These are the ppl that made literal childhoods, and this is the best they can do for the 100th anniversary?
I made this up, but I would’ve so enjoyed it if it was revealed that Star Boy (the Star but actually in the human version) was being held captive by the villain (I know his name but I forgot how to spell it so I’m not going to) and was being used for the power to make wishes. And Asha had to save him. That would’ve been so cool! Of course, this is my own idea, but it would’ve been so nice!
My mom saw the TV spots for Wish while the channel was playing Raya. Her impression was that they took characters from their other movies and just changed their names and gave them different color palettes. Nothing felt unique. And she's a die-hard loyalist who enjoys the live-action remakes.
Wow she’s right your mother
When even a die hard Disney adult is saying this .... then Disney fucked up big
lowkey when I first saw the Wish protagonist thought she looked a lot like Isabella from Encanto
@@DazzlingNishiI had the same confusion; i figured it was a sequel to Encanto
If Wish was a classical 2D animation, that would be a huge improvement in celebrating their past, especially if it slowly transitioned to the modern format through the duration. It would show growth and charm of the world, and let it breathe in creativity.
The 3D was chosen to have more camera movement
god the main girl would've looked so pretty in 2d!!!! it'd give them a chance to make her look so much more different from how 3d Disney movies have been doing female main characters
I think it would have been cool if the 100 year celebration was a story about an animator or animation team making a movie. They could add fantastical elements to show their battle with time, money, and writers block. Mabye even something like a isekai. Classic fariy tale but a animator or writer some how enter it and are able to change the world with their pencil. Think of One-Above-All in Marvel Comics who was the most powerful being and a stand in for the writers and artists making the comic.
13:25 made me laugh out loud when you showed the talking goat character as this toy plushie. Like poking fun at the product cash grab market too! 🤭
Do you feel that concept art seems to did better job than movie itself in case of Disney.
I do. We were supposed to get a starboy, possible romance and evil couple. Sounds way more interesting and compelling and I feel like it could create more emotional moments.
@@caelis_909i know the star guy look so great! Too the potential of the evil couple damn... i could rly see them as a powercouple but really romantic
@@redmaster3542and the evil power couple could've been NEW. most of our villains were either single or widows, and if it was a duo it was usually the mastermind and the goon(s). all we got is the Queen and King of Hearts but again they're not exactly equals? the king felt more like her goon than her husband.
@@caelis_909that would’ve been ADORABLE
As a visual dev student I was excited to see what ideas would be used judging from the vis dev art I saw a while back but I’m sad to see that wasn’t the case with the final product of the movie 😢
Wish tried so hard to stick to the “classic Disney formula” (a quirky female protagonist, a funny animal sidekick, an evil villain with a musical number, etc.) that it lacks its own identity.
It doesn’t do anything spectacular or daring compared to Disney's other works. It just kinda… exists.
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@@p-__ Begone, bot
@@bezierballad8852 no
@@bezierballad8852seriously
Yet one of the traditional Disney ingredients is missing: romace.
Disney can't let childrens see their heroes face their parents, that would give them ideas
Well, if a CARTOON makes more influence on a child than their parents, it's not a problem of cartoon, I guess...
But this doesn't change anything.
13:15 I LOVE the Schaffrillas reference!
You know it’s bad when the short before the movie does a better job at paying homage to the legacy of Disney (And generally being good), more than the movie itself
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Wait what short? It didn't air in my theater
@@JeskidoYTyea mine didn’t have a short either
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@@JeskidoYTthey mean once upon a studio though it never aired in front of Wish because it instead came out in October
With seeing what the concept art for star looked like, I was so SO SORELY disappointed in what star turned out to be. Upon my first reaction to seeing the star, I was like, "Yep, that's going to be the marketable part of the movie."
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If it was up to me I'd make the Star some Eldritch (but good hearted) Ophanim-looking entity from the cosmos lmao
star should have been our homeboy ♡ ♪ ! ?
They dragged a poor Luma into this, didn’t they? *Ding!*
That was my reaction to along with the goat.
Everything about the movie seems to be a reference or has been "inspired" by other stories and movies. Asha's quirky gestures, movements, and facial expressions remind me a lot Chel from El Dorado (but some of her faces also remind me a bit of Lisa from the Sunstone comics but I'll be generous and assume that's a coincidence).
As for the wish thing - how much more interesting would it have been if every wish cost a memory. It's seemingly inconsequential memories first but the more wishes are fulfilled, the more significant the memories taken become. But the one who loses them doesn't even realize what is gone because, well, no memory of it. It might not be all too sad while it's still things like a friend's favourite food, a birthday, or the name of your first favourite plushie. But then it eventually moves on to loved ones. Gone. As if things never happened and people had never been met. But since the things we experience and the people we meet shape us, losing them changes us and how we feel, think, and act. It's obvious to everyone around you but not yourself. That could have been an interesting premise, if it's either the memories of the one with the wish, or the thing, uh, I mean, the one who grants them, or maybe someone random. THAT would give the king a reason to be careful with the number of wishes he hands out.
Well, but unfortunately, the whole one wish = one memory => changing the one who holds the wish-making power has already been done in the second half of The Neverending Story (the book, I don't acknowledge any movies past the first), too bad.
Thinking about it, yeah, if you like some of the ideas of Wish but not the execution, try reading The Neverending Story. It got magic, wishes, wishes/power corrupting people, full villains, circumstantial villains, morally grey characters, and main characters on literal and metaphorical journeys.
God, a respectful, lovingly animated adaptation of the second half of the book with a Disney movie budget, that would be lovely.
i legit think making another fantasia would have made everyone happier than this like a look back at everything disney made and the concepts getting short films in a big mix of em all cuz all the concept art i see from disney always feels like everything that MADE disney the nostalgia of the old films the imagination and the characters we love cuz the 2 fantasia films felst like a wave of everything anyone would want form disney ya know and nice vid! °˘˘°
It just hurts seeing the media you’ve loved in the past getting shafted as you get older. I know that there’s tons of passionate people with lots of skill and talent that can make great movies and video games, but the soulless mass of the corporation just wants to get the product out while ignoring what made them popular in the first place.
Hey well its what happens when you allow people who doesn't know your business to run it, As many have no investment in actually learning to appreciate it.
It’s the fact Enchanted did a better job with easter eggs without having them be way too much, AND having an amazing original storyline, EVEN WITH CLASSIC DISNEY TROPES WRITTEN INTO THE SCRIPT LIKE THE POISON APPLE AND GISELLE.
And good musical numbers! Oh gawd I loved Enchanted. I still randomly hum the tune to How Do You Know?
I LOVE Enchanted!
YESSSS!!! ❤
"Enchanted" is perhaps the biggest piece of crap, that has ever been made by Disney.
It is a completely vile and disgusting story with barely any redeeming qualities.
@@Furienna To each their own 🤣 I liked that it was a flip on the classic fairytale trope.
Would’ve been really cool is that magnifico told his backstory of how why he doesn’t grant wishes. He could have said I once lived in a land far far away from here that was filled with magic, but a young evil sorcerer discovered a wishes potentials, and started draining everyone of their wishes, destroying the kingdom in the process. My wife and I fled and that is how we found this kingdom. It is later revealed that he is the young sorcerer that destroyed the kingdom and built Rosa in the image of his old kingdom and is secretly keeping the wishes for the power both he and his wife.
I had an odd idea for a rehash of this plot after hearing about the "power couple" dynamic that the king and queen were supposed to have. Probably a little late to be jotting it down here but whatever:
The idea being (as others have pointed out would be an improvement) that Asha was the princess of the King and Queen, who regularly used magic to impress the populace and maintain their kingdom's prosperity/power. While the kingdom is initially presented as a splendid and magical place, it is subtley and gradually communicated through the beginning that the Kingdom itself was built on conquest, that the wishes granted to the populace are either done out of necessity (bountiful crop harvests, fixing the damage from an earthquake, curing plagues, etc.) or are calculated displays of magnamity (rejuvenating a particularly beloved elder, granting a soldier back their lost limbs, granting a single holiday where chores do themselves once a year, etc.) which all comes to a head when a grieving parent begs the royal couple to resurrect their lost child to which they gracefully yet firmly decline...arguing that it is impossible. Though Asha is spoiled and treasured by her parents, her tutor (an elderly wise one) enforces a spirit of charity and humility within her that causes her to question her parents decisions. This culminates in a crisis due to a major discovery by Asha. One day while exploring her palace she eventually discovers a crypt and finds out that she was stillborn, and that her parents later wished her back to life with a fallen star, which they then enchained within the depths of the palace and used to fuel their magic (debunking the idea that bringing others back to life is impossible). She later confronts her parents about it who reluctantly admit that they lied, but try to argue that they did it out of necessity. They argue that if they didn't place limits on wishing, there would be no end to people's demands. When she points out the sheer opulence that they live in, they retort that they deserve it due to their "generosity" and that it's natural for some people to live at the top and dispense charity as they deem fit (They essentially argue the idea that they are superior and have an "important responsibility" to be in charge). A disillusioned and upset Asha goes back to her room and fervently wishes that magic could be given to everyone, which coincides with a second star falling to the earth near her kingdom.
The fallen star is confused and disoriented, and attempts to ask several animals for help (to no avail) before waking up Asha since she's the first person it sees. She initially panics due to the star looking like a kaleidoscopic cosmic shape, though eventually calms down when she realizes what it is. The star is uncertain how or why it fell and desires to return to the sky, asking her for help. Asha, believing that her wish drew it down, now sees this as her opportunity to grant wishes to the people of her kingdom, and lies to the star that she can help it but argues that they must travel through the kingdom and help it first (not sure if she should straight up lie or if she genuinely believes that it's the star's purpose and the reason it fell...could be both). The star is extremely skeptical and doesn't like the idea of spending its power on wishes but agrees due to having no other options. It assumes a human form and sneaks out with Asha to see the kingdom. Meanwhile, her parents are troubled by her decision to confront them and thus in turn decide to confront her tutor for "teaching her wrong." While initially planning on simply getting them to apologize and change their teachings to be more in line with their own views, the Elder's own stubbornness and the news of Asha's flight provokes their ire and they decide to turn them into a statue as punishment. They then place them in line with many other statues in their kingdom, implying another darker aspect to their empire.
Meanwhile Asha travels through the kingdom with the star, attempting to remain hidden (aided by the fact that her parents kept her both sheltered and smothered in jewels) and get the star to help people. There is initial conflict as the star doesn't like granting wishes and has a low opinion of humans, while Asha's sheltered nature and overbearing optimism makes it difficult for her to connect to people. Eventually the star gets tired of granting wishes, particularly vapid ones, and in one instance tells Asha to grant a person's wish herself, as it only really needs hard work and cleverness to grant. After some minor frustrations Asha gets the hang of it and finds that she genuinely enjoys helping people without magic, and likewise the star comes to see the value of humans and gradually warms up to Asha. In one particular incident Asha meets an amputee who chose not to get their limb wished back. When Asha questions them, they respond that while it does offer difficulties, loss is a part of life and they chose to remain grateful for what they have. They further point out that they are old and did not want to "take a wish" from someone else who was younger or needed it more. Asha is puzzled by this logic (as she perceived magic wishes as infinite) but the person explains that they believe that everything that is gained must come from something else and they do not believe that something can be gained for nothing. When Asha talks to the star about this the star confirms that wishes are not infinite (which is why it disliked granting them) and that there is a limit to what they can do. It tells her that stars are cosmic beings that travel the universe seeking inspiration from the many natural wonders in the cosmos. Eventually when they are old and powerful they "settle down" and draw planets to them which then spring forth life, with life being the ultimate expression of magic with its power to grow, to think, and to fulfill its own dreams with free will and hard work. The star of course, states that it itself is an extremely young star and has had no desire to settle down anytime soon, though admits that it has come to see the value in life, explaining that previously it just wanted to wander the universe in complete freedom forever and didn't understand why stars would give that up to create something so small and temporary. Asha, both awed and guilty explains to the star where her parents got their magic from (the fallen star) which causes the star to react in shock and horror. The star now believes that the fallen star called out to it for help and that THIS is what brought it back. It angrily brings up her previous revelation (that nothing can be gained for free) and points out that all of the magic and opulence of her kingdom represents stolen potential futures from a world and people yet to be born. Feeling used and betrayed (since her revealing this earlier would have helped it out IMMENSELY) it abandons her to sneak into the palace and free the fallen star from its captivity.
Continued...
Extremely saddened, Asha returns (or is recaptured) back to her parents who are overjoyed to have her back and initially plan on forgiving her and simply chucking her back into her room. However, Asha tries to argue with them on the nature of magic, asking them to free the fallen star they have captured under their palace. Her parents exasperatedly explain that their kingdom's wealth and prosperity come from the fallen star and that letting it go would be disastrous. She retorts that they can make their kingdom a place of wonders with no magic required, and that they are not only taking the easy way out, but also stealing power from something else. Frustrated, they try to argue that everything kingdom in the world functions this way, finally revealing to a horrified Asha the true history of their nation (and others) and how it is natural to conquer and take from others in order to enrich oneself. Asha denies that this is the only way, and argues that there is a better way where people can mutually support one another to fulfill each others dreams (comparing it to a family, like the one with the elder amputee). Her parents dismiss this and blame her tutor for turning her against them, and either intentionally or inadvertently reveal that they turned him into a statue. Horrified, Asha renounces their ways, and they respond by magically imprisoning her in her room (no doors). I am uncertain as to how they learn about the star, either finding it trying to sneak in, or if Asha accidentally reveals it, but once they discover the star's presence they are extremely excited, as their own fallen star was losing its luster and they feared it was running out of magic. They manage to interrupt the star from freeing its brethren and begin battling with it while Asha uses her own cleverness and ingenuity to escape her supposedly inescapable room. The battle between the star and her parents is extremely even, with the star's natural power being equaled by her parents' experience (the star ain't really used to any form of conflict) and their connection to the fallen star. Desiring to help her friend, she attempts to free the fallen star on her own. The fallen star speaks to her, revealing its own history of how it was also a young star that had accidentally fallen to her world due to being mesmerized by the first living beings it had ever seen (humans). Though it willingly granted the wish to bring her back to life (calling such a rare yet powerful wish a "miracle"), her parents tricked and imprisoned it, siphoning off its power to enrich their own kingdom. It further reveals that both Asha and the other star were right. It saw that Asha's wish, while naive, was pure in its intention and called the passing star down in order to hopefully help both of them. Meanwhile, desperate to win against the star, Asha's parents decide to absorb the last of the fallen star's magic in order to empower themselves. Before the fallen star dies, however, it states to Asha that despite her parent's treatment of it, it does not blame humans and instead states its own wish that she and her people can live happily and fulfill their dreams, as they are the most wonderful things it has ever seen.
Enraged and now motivated by vengeance, the star redoubles it efforts against Asha's parents, though it now finds itself outmatched and on the defensive. Remembering the lessons about making your wishes come true on your own, Asha gathers the people to help stop her parents. While initially afraid of provoking her parent's ire, and accustomed to being dependent on them, her own actions from earlier (along with her rousing speech and the destruction her parents are causing) rally enough people to her cause to build the popular momentum needed to get the populace in on helping out. Half of them remain behind to help people who are being hurt and trapped by the destruction, and the other half go to confront her parents. Using ingenuity and determination they manage to hinder her parents enough to keep from winning outright against the star and enslaving it as they did to the other one. While this initially appears to be working, her parents (out of rage and desperation, and the desire to prove a point) "take back" all of the magic from the wishes they'd granted over the years. Former soldiers lose their limbs again, fields of crops wither and die, cured plague victims are overtaken by coughing fits, entire chunks of restored buildings disappear (ironically saving a few people), and even the palace itself is consumed with her parents becoming a giant two headed living statue comprised from all the destroyed parts of the kingdom (but not lost limb body horror because Disney...). Lastly, even Asha begins to die as they take the magic from the wish that brought her back, though they realize this at the last second and relent, opting instead to imprison her in a literal gilded cage. They then turn to attack the star once more, but as a last attempt Asha begs her parents to stop and tries to convince them that they don't need magic to have a great kingdom or personal power, and that all they really need in the end is each other and what they can achieve together. While this initially seems to have an effect, they ultimately decide that they cannot live without the power and turn back in one last attempt to grab the star and take its power. The star resists with all its remaining might, yet is slowly overwhelmed and grabbed by the king and queen, who laugh triumphantly for a moment before fading and growing still, as Asha realizes they have finally used up all of their magic.
Believing that both her parents and the star are dead, Asha initially grieves, before discovering that the star is still alive. Though still alive, the star has likewise used up all of its magic and is now completely human. While initially panicking over this revelation, the star calms down once Asha reminds it of the fact that "life is the most powerful magic of all." Her tutor, now restored due to her parents undoing all of their magic, reaches Asha and praises her growth and accomplishments. Though Asha is overjoyed that they are alive, they are dismayed by the devastation of the kingdom, however her tutor reminds her that they can achieve anything together, and Asha decides to rally the people together to rebuild their kingdom. Possible fast forward to decades in the future where a much older Queen Asha presides over an even more prosperous kingdom than before, as it is a kingdom built by all for all (rather than for some) with the palace being more humble yet the entire city being absolutely resplendent and lively. Possibility that the star is now her royal spouse, but not sure if a romantic angle is needed.
In any case these are just brain squirts I had while slaving away during holiday retail. Happy Christmahanukwanzakah New Years everyone