Part of me wants to decry all the image processing and compositing as so much digital fakery... on the other hand, I can't help but wonder if it yields something that is actually more representative of how our brains remember a scene than a single static image of one instant in time at a fixed aperture/focus/shutter speed does... the human brain is a pretty great integrator, after all.
They say that the camera doesn't lie, but they were always wrong. No photograph in history has ever shown "reality." There are too many variables that depend on how the camera was set up: exposure time, aperture width, lens field of view, B&W or color emulsion and sensitivity, lens filters, double exposures, dark room development, etc... And you're right, none of them showed what the human eye sees or what the human mind remembers. These digital enhancements have a legitimate place in casual photography but the public should be aware that a picture does not show reality, merely an interpretation of a scene processed in a certain way.
Reminds me of a photo I once shot in Ireland. I saw an surreal combination of green and gold in the morning out in the countryside when the sun rose on some hills. It looked so bizarrely beautiful and I was engulfed in it. When I tried to take a picture with my camera then and went for high saturation, it still looked very cool, like digitally enhanced or computer generated, but it never came close. That was a profound moment for me that taught me that cameras and eyes are both instruments for capturing images and you'll always have information loss in pictures. Kind of obvious but it makes me appreciate the digitally enhanced kind of approach more than I'd have thought (as long as it can be turned off when needed). The auditory equivalent of that was me hearing an explosion for the first time and realizing you can't put this in a movie. I've always advocated realism and when I was a kid, I wanted my video games to sound like real life. That's when I realized it makes sense for effects to get enhanced to create a feeling rather than realistically display the depth of reality.
"Most photos we see now are just hallucinations". Oh my god its so true. So many things look so different in pictures (people mostly, lol) that I have a hard time recognizing them in real life.
Other than that, small sensors have gotten a lot more sensitive, and companies are putting faster lenses on phones. On top of that the photo app has gone full skynet in terms of computational photography.
I appreciate my cameras ability to take photos closer to what my eyes see. But I disagree with dude, I do not want my camera to turn a foggy day into a sunny day so I can show off my perfect beautiful life...I mean vacation
They need to just have a toggle that lets you use computational photography when its on. I’d prefer that the camera just captures whats there to the best of the lens ability most of the time.
I alao appreciate my phone taking photos closer to what my eyes can see. However, i think it should be my choice to use this kind of feature and not just the only option I have.
I just got the Pixel 7 a few days ago, my first new phone in over six years, and I'm absolutely ecstatic at how great my photos look - just as Google advertised. But I quickly discovered that it changed the color, not just light, in my pictures to help them look "the best". I came to this video to learn why that happens. Now I'm horrified. I like my personal photos to be as realistic as possible, so I can look back and remember that moment exactly how it was. But instead, computer companies are creating an illusion of how pictures "should" be - altering our very memories in the process. If it was cloudy on the day a family visited the Eiffel Tower, shouldn't they be allowed to remember the clouds?
Isn’t the processing essentially the same as fill stocks giving you different looks, color and grain? Cinematographers shoot on various stock depending on what they want the scene to feel like, no?
I use a Pixel, and Google Camera is great in its AI game, but man does it ever feel like you're not in control of you own device. Even then, it's hardly ever consistent; when it's good, it's great, but otherwise it's like nvm.
While I love what the technology can do to enhance photographs I have reservations on the influence machine algorithms processing have on what we “see”. Photographs were originally considered objective incontrovertible records of reality. Gradually we learned that images can be manipulated, first crudely by analog means, and increasingly with greater sophistication by digital. By going beyond what we are physically capable of discerning, we increasingly add subjective interpretation. In this case the subjectivity of the programmer/algorithm. This is fine as long as we understand it is a “hallucination” as the MIT professor stated. I think for most people however they will accept it as a new reality. This is where the danger may lie. Would we accept an augmented and highly processed night vision photograph as legal evidence? Will our real but limited visual perception be considered inferior to this new augmented reality? The augmented view, subject to subtle biases, adds to our already warped perception of reality. I think each photo should have a pop-up disclaimer: “For entertainment purposes only”. Not to used as legal evidence. May cause disorientation. Some people may experience this as a hallucination.”
The irony, for me, in any voices railing against the 'fakery' of the involvement of computing/processing - is that my Samsung phone captures the view that _I am seeing in front of me_ - it's as though it's behind my eyes. A DSLR in contrast, out-of-camera at least - is 'dumb' - & I'm stuck with the old-fashioned dilemma of choosing which areas to expose for - the sky, or the darker foreground (I thus use spot metering a lot). My own eyes & brain creates massive dynamic range - these smartphones are achieving this. So - you need all this AI to recreate the scene authentically - ironically. I say all of this as a DSLR enthusiast!
When a smartphone can actually produce an actual optical shallow depth of field on portrait mode (blurred background) that's when I would take Phone photography as a professional. They would need to somehow break the laws of physics tho, or create a new way of capturing light instead of what we know as camera sensors.
Check out some flagship Sony Xperia phones, they've been ahead of the curve for a long time when it comes to smart phone cameras. People sleep on Sony ;but they make awesome phones.
Photo realism is not dead, just as oil painting is not dead and film is not dead. I can take a photo realistic image whenever I want and most images are photo realistic. Very few images use this advanced features. BTW - astrophotography has never been photo realistic. Go out and take a look. Does it look like astrophotography images? Nope. Not even close.
Most of the consumers don’t have an ability to shot great photos and editing to look eye catching images… I don’t think it’s not an illusion like what you said it’s innovation make life easier and time saving for everyone.
Sorry but computational photography results look more realistic than a blurry mess. Some phones can overlit a scene, but generally new phone pics capture more of a moment than old ones
You can use a tripod and take multiple pictures in different exposures and then join them together using an editing software like Photoshop, that's what photographers do sometimes.
Except of the NY riverside photo, all the other comparisons are not in the same situation so not really useful to compare. Also, really shallow explanations considering 10 minutes of video..
After the iPhone 6 all the cameras on iPhones have horrible lens flare and makes taking photos in low light with any strong light source impossible, which is all of them. I can't speak for Android phones, but the last good iPhone camera was on the 6.
Need to discuss the technological advances with HDR photography in smartphones, that was a significant development, perhaps much more than machine learning and algorithms.
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I’m so *GLAD* i born in color world 🌎 now I feel bad for *Black & White* world back then Also the world without camera 📸, the day would be dark like the sky 👍🏻
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We are so lucky that the quality of the photos people take and never look at again have become so good.
Part of me wants to decry all the image processing and compositing as so much digital fakery... on the other hand, I can't help but wonder if it yields something that is actually more representative of how our brains remember a scene than a single static image of one instant in time at a fixed aperture/focus/shutter speed does... the human brain is a pretty great integrator, after all.
They say that the camera doesn't lie, but they were always wrong. No photograph in history has ever shown "reality." There are too many variables that depend on how the camera was set up: exposure time, aperture width, lens field of view, B&W or color emulsion and sensitivity, lens filters, double exposures, dark room development, etc... And you're right, none of them showed what the human eye sees or what the human mind remembers.
These digital enhancements have a legitimate place in casual photography but the public should be aware that a picture does not show reality, merely an interpretation of a scene processed in a certain way.
Reminds me of a photo I once shot in Ireland. I saw an surreal combination of green and gold in the morning out in the countryside when the sun rose on some hills. It looked so bizarrely beautiful and I was engulfed in it.
When I tried to take a picture with my camera then and went for high saturation, it still looked very cool, like digitally enhanced or computer generated, but it never came close. That was a profound moment for me that taught me that cameras and eyes are both instruments for capturing images and you'll always have information loss in pictures. Kind of obvious but it makes me appreciate the digitally enhanced kind of approach more than I'd have thought (as long as it can be turned off when needed).
The auditory equivalent of that was me hearing an explosion for the first time and realizing you can't put this in a movie. I've always advocated realism and when I was a kid, I wanted my video games to sound like real life. That's when I realized it makes sense for effects to get enhanced to create a feeling rather than realistically display the depth of reality.
@@HermanVonPetri I have a feeling you waited a long time to say that
"Most photos we see now are just hallucinations". Oh my god its so true. So many things look so different in pictures (people mostly, lol) that I have a hard time recognizing them in real life.
I'm pretty sure people also use apps and filters to manipulate their faces to their their liking lol
Other than that, small sensors have gotten a lot more sensitive, and companies are putting faster lenses on phones. On top of that the photo app has gone full skynet in terms of computational photography.
I appreciate my cameras ability to take photos closer to what my eyes see. But I disagree with dude, I do not want my camera to turn a foggy day into a sunny day so I can show off my perfect beautiful life...I mean vacation
Photorealism is dead.
I'm surprised I actually needed to hear that to realize how true it is
Well that video took a turn. It got so much deeper than I anticipated. It was like a philosophical talk. Not mad about it, just surprised
I loved that about it.
They need to just have a toggle that lets you use computational photography when its on. I’d prefer that the camera just captures whats there to the best of the lens ability most of the time.
Right. All the sunsets takes by iPhones look the same now. I wish it would just show the real sunset
I alao appreciate my phone taking photos closer to what my eyes can see. However, i think it should be my choice to use this kind of feature and not just the only option I have.
Silence is the best background music!
I just got the Pixel 7 a few days ago, my first new phone in over six years, and I'm absolutely ecstatic at how great my photos look - just as Google advertised. But I quickly discovered that it changed the color, not just light, in my pictures to help them look "the best". I came to this video to learn why that happens. Now I'm horrified.
I like my personal photos to be as realistic as possible, so I can look back and remember that moment exactly how it was. But instead, computer companies are creating an illusion of how pictures "should" be - altering our very memories in the process. If it was cloudy on the day a family visited the Eiffel Tower, shouldn't they be allowed to remember the clouds?
Photographing the Milky Way on my Pixel 6 is insanely awesome.
great video, thanks for all the detailed clarifications
With all the smog and fog in major cities it probably won't be long before these cameras automatically change it to a blue sky.
Isn’t the processing essentially the same as fill stocks giving you different looks, color and grain? Cinematographers shoot on various stock depending on what they want the scene to feel like, no?
I use a Pixel, and Google Camera is great in its AI game, but man does it ever feel like you're not in control of you own device. Even then, it's hardly ever consistent; when it's good, it's great, but otherwise it's like nvm.
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I'm pretty sure that balloon concert shot was a Japanese Breakfast show I was at
4:11 - Smartphones getting more and more KI and producing "wrong" images. But I am happy Arri did not change his color science over the years :)))
While I love what the technology can do to enhance photographs I have reservations on the influence machine algorithms processing have on what we “see”. Photographs were originally considered objective incontrovertible records of reality. Gradually we learned that images can be manipulated, first crudely by analog means, and increasingly with greater sophistication by digital. By going beyond what we are physically capable of discerning, we increasingly add subjective interpretation. In this case the subjectivity of the programmer/algorithm. This is fine as long as we understand it is a “hallucination” as the MIT professor stated. I think for most people however they will accept it as a new reality. This is where the danger may lie. Would we accept an augmented and highly processed night vision photograph as legal evidence? Will our real but limited visual perception be considered inferior to this new augmented reality? The augmented view, subject to subtle biases, adds to our already warped perception of reality. I think each photo should have a pop-up disclaimer: “For entertainment purposes only”. Not to used as legal evidence. May cause disorientation. Some people may experience this as a hallucination.”
Well put.
I’m a simple person; I see a cat and I click.
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Love watching these
It all started with the Pixel 2 & XL.
Dawn all the just for a simple photo 😭
The irony, for me, in any voices railing against the 'fakery' of the involvement of computing/processing - is that my Samsung phone captures the view that _I am seeing in front of me_ - it's as though it's behind my eyes. A DSLR in contrast, out-of-camera at least - is 'dumb' - & I'm stuck with the old-fashioned dilemma of choosing which areas to expose for - the sky, or the darker foreground (I thus use spot metering a lot). My own eyes & brain creates massive dynamic range - these smartphones are achieving this. So - you need all this AI to recreate the scene authentically - ironically.
I say all of this as a DSLR enthusiast!
peeps still be taking bad photos 😭
Nice iPhone commercial ✅
While the best camera today is on the Galaxy S22 Ultra.🤣
When a smartphone can actually produce an actual optical shallow depth of field on portrait mode (blurred background) that's when I would take Phone photography as a professional. They would need to somehow break the laws of physics tho, or create a new way of capturing light instead of what we know as camera sensors.
Check out some flagship Sony Xperia phones, they've been ahead of the curve for a long time when it comes to smart phone cameras. People sleep on Sony ;but they make awesome phones.
Julian, I had to double take to make sure you were wearing pants.
Julian, great video thanks 😊
PHOTOREALISM IS DEAD.
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Sony Xperia have the best smart phone cameras/features I've ever seen, too many people sleep on them.
Photo realism is not dead, just as oil painting is not dead and film is not dead. I can take a photo realistic image whenever I want and most images are photo realistic. Very few images use this advanced features. BTW - astrophotography has never been photo realistic. Go out and take a look. Does it look like astrophotography images? Nope. Not even close.
Most of the consumers don’t have an ability to shot great photos and editing to look eye catching images… I don’t think it’s not an illusion like what you said it’s innovation make life easier and time saving for everyone.
Handheld night photos are still a challenge with the Pixel 6, but I never had one as bad as yours. :D
Sorry but computational photography results look more realistic than a blurry mess. Some phones can overlit a scene, but generally new phone pics capture more of a moment than old ones
Can i get an app, for older phone, which will make my photos better?
You can use a tripod and take multiple pictures in different exposures and then join them together using an editing software like Photoshop, that's what photographers do sometimes.
Well not so hot when taking pictures of UFO’s or ghost but seems to be great for selfies , go figure huh?
"Photo realism is dead."
Now reality is deep-fake.
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Its not about smartphone revolution.
Your talking about camera software
Put Bill Murray down for an auto complete.
Except of the NY riverside photo, all the other comparisons are not in the same situation so not really useful to compare. Also, really shallow explanations considering 10 minutes of video..
"Photo realism is dead." 😂😂😢
Does he keep describing the photos as hallucinations? When did photos become described as hallucinations?
After the iPhone 6 all the cameras on iPhones have horrible lens flare and makes taking photos in low light with any strong light source impossible, which is all of them. I can't speak for Android phones, but the last good iPhone camera was on the 6.
Changing night into day is funny. 😶
It happends since the Earth started to rotate.
@@jareknowak8712 did you understand what I meant to say?
Need to discuss the technological advances with HDR photography in smartphones, that was a significant development, perhaps much more than machine learning and algorithms.
Better sensors
Stop photo cheating now!
Even your declarative statements? Sound like questions?
dude looks like an Indian taking to an Indian
I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro max and nighttime photos are absolutely amazing 🤩
I used to have a crappy iPhone 5 I now have an iPhone X trust me it is a difference
The difference is you were ripped off twice instead of once.
Funny part is- iPhone is not even good in taking night photo's. 😹
Until you try a Huawei.
Well anyone wanna Suggest me a phone around 16k With Fully all rounder , and hv to use 4 years 😀😀
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so iphones not actually smartphones in general
Sony makes Apple's cameras.
I’m so *GLAD* i born in color world 🌎 now
I feel bad for *Black & White* world back then
Also the world without camera 📸, the day would be dark like the sky 👍🏻
No mention of Samsung? What a bunch of Apple sheeple.
I'm bored here. Watching about why cameras on phones are so great today. 😭
Sort of
Don't care, like the iphone3g's one more
First view
Lol. I thought the first dude's going to tell me not get another dude to tell me how it works. Why not just bring out the second dude right away.
idk, maybe cause technology can advance???
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Keep pushing in life and just never give up!
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iPhones have really bad cameras since always
Samsung is much better when it comes to cameras and so is Huawei
Remember God loves you♥️.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
If you trust in Jesus Christ and repent, you will be saved🙏🙏.
He is coming back soon