YOU'RE HUNTING THE RUT WRONG! #1 Mistake During the Rut | Deer Hunting Tips
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Not seeing mature bucks during the rut? The rut is the most exciting time of year to hunt deer, but it's also the easiest time to make mistakes. In this video, we reveal the #1 rut hunting mistake people make, which causing you to not see mature bucks, and show you how to avoid it so you can maximize your chances of success.
Mistake: Not understanding the timing of when does come into heat, the bell curve it creates, and how it affects the supply/demand between bucks and doe
Why: When a doe comes into heat bucks lock down on does which takes them out of the game, and you need to know how to avoid that!
Solutions:
Shoot more does, even if you need to shoot does during the rut
Split up your hunting and focus on the beginning and the end of the bell curve
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So if the neighbors shoot zero does and they have 3-1 ratio every single buck u have is on the neighbors place… ???
Deer don’t pay attention to property lines. First, deer will spread out due to social pressure so you will end up with more bucks making their home on your place throughout the year, and some of their does will naturally move into your area to balance that social and environmental pressure. Second, it is more about what you have on your property that is attractive to deer. If your neighbor has all the food and/or bedding all the deer will be over there anyhow. So it has more to do with the makeup of your property and the overall herd balance. If you have less does on your place they may come over to your place during lock down to escape the pressure. Or if your have fewer does on your place you might have more mature bucks on your property throughout the year (assuming you have food, cover, and water) because there will be less social pressure and mature bucks are solitary animals that hate social pressure. You are thinking about it WAY to simply if you think they will just all be on your neighbors.
I’m the only one that takes does on my farm my 300 acres.. roughly 1500 acres surrounding it no one does take them
I’ve always been successful but it would help if my neighbors did more than trophy hunt. I only shoot mature bucks but our ratio is WAY out of whack
@@NQTOD It's often very difficult to get the surrounding property owners on board for deer herd management. You can prove the herd benefit and the resulting better yield but getting everyone on board is challenging
Not sure you guys experience it but we have two rut cycles..first one is around Thanksgiving and the second is around late December into January. Often with less does able to breed the second rut is often when we see the big boys come into town.
That is the typical pattern for sure. Does that don’t get bred the first time come into heat again about 30 days later. If you are seeing a lot of rut activity during the second rut, that is a sure sign that you have WAY too many does for the bucks to get to. We don’t see much noticeable difference in that second rut typically. Ours is more of a tame and elongated first rut.
Yes! I do believe that it's not always the same across the board as far as days . I live in lower Northern Michigan and it was crazy Nov 1st - Nov 10th then nothing but that week was crazy fun . So many bucks, so, so, many I went out 2 nights ago and saw nothing. First time this season I went out and saw nothing. But 1st -10th was great here and even opening day of rifle at our cabin I have 11 family members hunting and they only shot 2 bucks . Things fell off the map after the 10th here
That is a sign of a balanced herd in your area! The places where it seems like there is not much of a noticeable change and it drags forever are the places where you need to really be thinking about killing more does. For you, you should be looking to kill 1 doe for every buck you kill to keep the balance. Thanks for the comment!
Some of the best rutting action I have ever seen has been the last 10 days of October, I feel like that time frame gets slept on
Yup, we have been seeing a nice uptick in the back part of October too. They are heavy on scrapes and definitely extending their bed time!
Same. I've taken a giant the last 2 yrs on oct 27th. No joke
@@jason6325 yup, early part of the bell curve!
@@WeekendWoodsmen I'never thought In my wildest days i would take a buck 2 years in a row on the exact same day. You better Beleive oct 27th is the start of breeding in northern ar. Atleast on the property I'm hunting. Take care guys. Be safe.
WWOOFFICIAL. You are correct. Not allot of people know this. Or they just simply ignore it. But it most defintly is one of if not the best time to be in a tree.
Im in a part of Kentucky that has been neglected by our fish and game department for my entire life. Im 47, spent 16 years as a state trooper here, working collisions all over I75 involving deer. That said, my county is still a "zone 4", which means NO DOE WITH A RIFLE, One doe permitted during archery and the last two days of muzzleloader season. So on my little piece of land i have a pile of doe and a few bucks, but there is no "chasing", no competition due to the doe population being the way it is. Sure, i killed my ONE doe but that doesnt help. .2 of a mile away is a zone 3 which is better but doesnt help me at home.
That’s unfortunate and a VERY outdated way for the state to manage deer 😞
I totally agree with this. My biggest bucks i have seen and the most rut activity ive seen has been in that nov 15-20 window
thanks for the comment!
@@WeekendWoodsmen no problem, good luck hunting
Killed my personal best this year November 20th and my second biggest 3 years ago on November 14th.
congrats! always great to hear about successful hunts!@@223savvage
I completely agree with you. I've been a bow hunter for more than 40 years and I find all the points made as valid. 1 other thing I would add is the type of noises we make which spook or do not spook deer. Not always but most of the time a simple movement noise where a few leaves rustle or you slide on your seat a little will not spook the deer. However, metal being struck nearly always spooks game including deer. Accidentally bump your metal stand with your bow or relaease and deer most often will run or go on full alert.
That’s true for sure! They know the difference between natural and unnatural sounds
When they lockdown though where do they go? Thick bedding areas?
Many times it’s areas away from other deer. So islands, fingers out in fields, it is incredibly hard to predict. Hunting in bedding areas is your best bet because the does are tired of being chased so they also don’t travel far and stay in thick cover. Bucks will be cruising the shortest distances between bedding areas and will run the downwind side of them.
Yes, the ratio has to be right to both have a healthy herd and to increase the odds of getting a buck. People also think that during the rut they can just walk out in the woods and shoot a nice buck. Even though bucks let their guard down somewhat, they are still deer and the females are still creatures of habit regarding food, cover, and their natural habits.
Absolutely correct! It is humbling!
Nothing to fight about if there’s too many does.. which makes it hard to rattle one in also.
Absolutely correct!
Do you use a bone saw for the rib cage? It seems to be yet another hot topic in hunting. The people I’ve spoken with either say “no”, they just reach high up there and cut the trake. The others say “yes” because they’ve constantly cut themselves reaching up there blind. God Bless!
No we do not typically, but we have a different way to cut the trachea that we apparently need to do a video on! 🤫
@@WeekendWoodsmen That would be Great! I tend to favor my fingers uncut lol! 🤐
Any deer talk to me is one question, are we talking about private, keep out, property or public state gameland s.
well that is very true hunting pressured public ground can be a very different experience vs private.
I have been going out for almost 5 weeks on public land. I've seen 2 deer that weren't in range....I'm trying everything and getting away from people.
Public land is extremely tough. We’ve had a lot of luck doing some aerial scouting with Google Maps and then understanding who owns what and going door-to-door to get permission. You may get 100 nos but the one yes is all you need. Good luck!
I've been tempted to ask a neighbor, unfortunately I suffer from social anxiety. I have moments, but a cold walk up makes me wanna disappear...
@@DontInterruptMeCunt I understand it is very uncomfortable especially the first few rejections, but once you get told now a few times and especially after you get a few “yes” you realize “the worst they can do is say no” and that isn’t a big deal, and you move onto the next! Good luck out there!
It’s rut now where I live
where is that at? my guess is pretty far south?
It helps taking doe out two because when they have fawns and if they are button bucks she will run them off
Miles away and stay her self so your loseing bucks and they do this so they wont try too mate with them seen this a 100 times over the years
Yes it helps reduce the overall social pressure which is helpful and it opens up a “spot” for a buck to move in, because deer will always “move in” from places with greater social pressure. Just like when you kill a boss buck and then all the sudden you see new bucks. Same think happens when you kill a doe
Absolutely right my friend !!
thanks for commenting!@@joelkrystof5877
Amen 👍👍
Thanks for the comment!
I shot my big buck last season the day before thankt
Congrats!🎉
@@WeekendWoodsmen thank you.
When they lockdown though where do they go? Thick bedding areas?
Many times it’s areas away from other deer. So islands, fingers out in fields, it is incredibly hard to predict. Hunting in bedding areas is your best bet because the does are tired of being chased so they also don’t travel far and stay in thick cover. Bucks will be cruising the shortest distances between bedding areas and will run the downwind side of them.