I used to be settled in to hunt before daylight. Occasionally I still do. My preferred method now is to start walking in at daylight, basically still hunting to my blind. I can see better, allowing for quieter walking. Most activity starts around 8:00-8:30. The area Im referringto is not a high pressure spot but has pressure around it. Last year I saw 5 different bucks between 9:30-12:30. There is something to your logic.
Matthew, my man, no way I expected you to put that together so fast. But extremely thankful dude. It was very, very interesting. Especially for us that hunt the big woods. No AG or food plots. The 12 to 1:00 time frame was probably the most surprising to me. The other time frames I can pretty much say I have experienced the same over my career. Good stuff, thank you sir. Side note, nothing hanging yet. Just enjoyable time in the woods. Seeing a few doe. My son passed on a six or five point. Hard to do, especially when you're younger. Anyways, thanks brother. Always appreciate your info. As always, good harvest to you.😉
You were definitely one of the folks that got me the motivation to make the video! Took a long time to compile but it was worth it. That’s really a big deal that your kid did that- says a lot about how into the sport he is. You are doing it right in raising him. I don’t have anything down. That big boy I got on cam early season hasn’t come back. I’ve got a couple other decent ones on cam tho. The golden time of year is just coming up. Good luck 👍
I hunt from 1100 to 1430. The morning guys coming in give me cover to get out and I'm not fouling up anyone's hunt if out of the zone by 1500 hrs. Most guys are back in their camps or vehicles so the woods are mine.
Great job 👏 Thanks for your hard work! Definitely confirms my central New York data as well ! My 2 biggest bucks were killed between 1:00 and 3:15 ! A 157 typical @1:00 and a 182 nontypical @3:15 Enjoy your channel
Thank you so much for putting this together. Your data matches my experience in the big woods of Northeastern MN the biggest Bucks I've seen and shot. Later morning and early afternoon. (This may have been due to other hunter movements during those times). Sadly now we contend with an overpopulation of Wolves.
Nice job! Thanks for putting in the time to do that. Thats why when i can i do all day sits 3 days in a row 1st and 2nd week of november. Its hard but pays off because you never know what time theyll show up.
Great strategy. Yeah you just never do know what time. Makes for some long hours on stand but it’s worth it if you can hang in there. Thanks for sharing and good luck this fall!
Great video and good luck this season. I hunt northern lower Michigan and hunt the big woods also. Completely different hunting then the lower Michigan guys. I shot my biggest buck at 5:15 on November 28. Just got a new camera and plan on get it up there in a week. Keep the great content and thanks for sharing your data.
Very cool, thanks for doing this. The biggest deer I’ve ever seen were between 8:30am-10:30am. If you can sit full day in stand do it, big boys can move anytime. Good luck this season!
Hi. Being from Minnesota, you are familiar of the presence of wolves. Do you carry a firearm when scouting? Do you ever see them when scouting…or bear for that matter? Thanks
We have lots of wolves up here. They have never bothered us or made us feel danger. I did however get stalked in the dark walking into my stand last fall though. Bad deal. I think it was a cougar. Could only see its eyes w my headlamp. True story.
One of the best videos I’ve seen on this subject. Well done. I’m curious, of the 4 big bucks, were they native to that area or just cruising through? Had you had them on camera at other times or were these the only pics you had of them? Again, great video!
Two of the three were bucks I only captured one single day (typical of a big woods rut funnel, away from doe-zones). The other one, I had a few different times on cam. I believe that was due to the fact that the camera was in a doe-family area. So naturally that’s an area where a buck will frequent more often during the fall.
Did your study account for the daylight savings time change in November? I know I usually forget to change the clock on my cameras, making the timestamps an hour off for most of November. I don't think that hour difference would significantly alter your results, just something to think about. Your data certainly aligns with my experience.
Two cents worth… the bucks in the early am will try to find some does to breed and if not he will lay up with a ‘doe family group bedding about 15 yards out. If none of them ‘Come onto heat’ in that few hours he’s on his feet looking for another doe group to smell out.” Seen it happen in the woods a few times. Lucky to see it. I bow killed couple of very nice bucks on the 1-3 PM time That had bedded down near my stand and to ‘after noon roaming buck’ came into the family doe group and pushed them around a bit to see if one of them might be close to breeding’. I have not seen that afternoon roamer Buck stay with that new new afternoon if he couldn’t get a doe who was close to coming in heat to break away with him. He went in roaming looking for other small doe groups. Is you know where the doe groups will come back to bed in the morning it’s a pretty good bet that bigger bucks will come by just to check them out. He won’t bed with them like the early ones. He will move on and scrape and hunt does.
There are many reasons when or why you see a buck , I've shot numerous bucks and have seen more during that late morning early afternoon but have seen them in morning and at last light I feel when they a rutting and chasing does they don't pay attention to where their at or what time of day it is I feel when the rut is on be in the woods it's when those old smart bucks screw up my main concern is not bothering the does before the rut hits , it's early October hunting season bow is open my favorite biting at the bit to go and I saw a slammer on foot in Velvet so it's really hard not to go but I know will see does small bucks and I will watch them figure me out in the early season so don't go I don't do cameras or disturb an area after early August check stands shooting lanes then out I do have a stand I will hunt starting mid October now but wait till Halloween to hunt my main stands but with the rut you just don't know I appreciate the time you put into it but when this rut hits all day in stand for me .
Interesting. One suggestion that I have would be to make the graph of times as "hours after sunrise" instead of time on the clock. This would account for shortening days as well as the daylight savings time switch. Thanks for the video though!
I do many all day sits. However, I will add that I will on public land go in deep and set two stands for morning and evening. I still hunt in between with a tending grunt call during the rut. It makes for an exciting hunt to have a buck run up on me. Even if I don't get the shot I do get the heart pounding 😂
This has been my experience as well. Both in harvesting the biggest bucks of the area and my trail cams. If you can do it, sit all day during the rut for sure!!!
Also ..this is JUST in your area bud...doesn't apply to everyone hunting whitetail...rut happens differently in different areas...wich im sure you know However cudos on the putting together your peak movement...gave me good idea to look back n compile our pictures...Thanks 😊
Pretty cool. The ONLY daylight pictures I got of my mature bucks on scrape lines last year were from 9:30 to noon. Its like casting at the bank while bass fishing....hunting early mornings and late evening is just so ingrained. Breaking that cycle this year.
Man I agree with this. My hunting buddy’s most productive time is 1-2 and mine is 10-11. We have went back and forth about which is better but I guess we can stop arguing now. Thanks
No problem. I did find it pretty interesting to see how many big bucks still moved the whole day. Really not a bad idea to be on stand from 8 am to about 5 pm. Good luck!
interesting info. it does show that the bucks you got are moving at those times where your cameras are... what it doesn't show is when they're up & moving when they're NOT in front of your cameras.
Yeah good thought. I’m sure if I looked at trail cam pics over a good plot or at field, the spike in activity would be much larger in the evening vs late morning
I've killed my biggest bucks from the hours of 10:00 - 2:00, there is definitely truth in your findings. I think the bigger bucks move more in the afternoon because most hunters bail at about 9:30 or 10AM.
In my little situation I’ve noticed over the past 20 years or so that, during the rut this exact thing happens. Most of the deer that I got were shot after things sort of started getting going around 730 or later. I would start seeing deer and then even more action during that same window up until about 11 or so. Great video thank you
I’m actually just now switching to tacticam. I had a bad experience with Spypoint and am making the switch. I’ve had good luck with non-cell cam bushnells too.
Penn State University has been doing deer movement studies for a good many years now. They have radio collared deer and they say deer move more during the dawn and dusk hours no matter the season, moon phase, and weather. Any thoughts on this?
Yeah… I’ve pondered that before. I think we need to keep in mind the time of year. I bet that in general, throughout the year, it’s true that deer move most at dawn and dusk. However what I’m showing on my cameras is specifically that pre rut and peak rut timeframe. I’ve looked at those studies and pondered why the trail cam photos don’t align with them. But the trail cam photos don’t lie.
So you have done a good job with this video. However, I think you should have put the frequency numbers on the graph to provide better precision and context. When you say 11 years people are inclined to think you have a lot of data, but in reality perhaps it really isn’t that much. For instance for the 1100 to 1200 slot is that 5 deer or 50 deer? Sample size is important to know if it is enough data to be relevant. I would say however that in my experience of hunting deer for 46 years I do see a lot of deer during the 1100 to 100 time, but I think it is often from hunters moving in and out of the woods at lunchtime which moves deer. I always stay on stand for this and wait until at least 100 to go eat. You have a new subscriber my man. Thanks for your work.
Astute comments here. I think I ended up with almost 300 data points for all slots combined. I will pull an exact number. Yeah it’s certainly not a peer reviewed or overly-scientific study. Just my trail camera photos. Gives us a general sense of the situation though. If someone really wanted to poke holes in this they certainly could. But overall, I think the general takeaway is still valuable, even with its imperfections. I appreciate the sub and the comment. Hope your fall is shaping up well.
Hello and good morning watching your other videos and I was wondering do you bother baiting or do you keep it natural. I’m curious to see if baiting turns the deer nocturnal. Our rifle season on Manitoulin Island starts Nov.20 and from your Bell curve it would be well past the peak rut movement. It’s just great being in the outdoors. Good luck hunting.
They claim there's no such thing as a nocturnal buck! 🤔 idk man? Seems that when pressure is on the only time you'll see em is at night but they claim that they always move. That a buck you want is in the daytime moving somewhere and that it will bed during evening . Check out the study that was just done by the university of Mississippi something or nother ....all I remember is it was a Mississippi college that did the study and they made a lot of great points. They collared like 3,000 deer and watched there routines daily and then checked and compared the data. That's what I am about is the data cuz data don't lie. Just check it out and see what ya think. It will help with said question.
Not sure of you noticed but the 1st and 2nd bucks were on the full moon. The 4th buck was on the new moon. The 3rd buck was at ~65% full. Thanks for the content.
@@northernforestwhitetail i have noticed mature bucks move mid day (11-3) on days of full moon more often than not in the rut or not. I think it's situational and how safe they feel, but I think they definitely have the urge to move. I actually think the reason that mature bucks move more in the mid day during the rut is because they know that does are bedded, so when they cut the trail of a hot doe, it is much easier to find her mid day when she is bedded than if she up moving around in the evening, morning, or night. Just my thoughts.
Great data and a lot of work to track! Your data matches mine from northeast NY with the only difference is in my 3 years of data the most rut activity occurs 5 days later than yours. Great job, thanks!
yes, anything that funnels deer into an area that they use a lot during the rut would be a rut funnel. A saddle between 2 doe bedding areas would be a great one@@Canadaman4403
I was referencing your previous video where you had the dates. They look very similar to the dates we see most activity. Usually November 4-12 is when we get the most action. Thanks for the response and great videos 👍🏻
I grew up hunting southern Michigan. But since moved to the upper peninsula of Michigan which is where my family is originally from and where some still live. UP hunting kicks my butt. I've managed to shoot a couple bucks but it's tough. Early season I cannot figure the bucks out at all. It's like they don't exist. NW up by lake superior
I know the feeling. Most of my big woods spots don’t have bucks show up on my camera until late October. I’ve put out miners sites in the summer and ran cameras trying to figure out where they live early season and to this day I’ve never figured it out. Like you say it’s almost like they don’t exist in the summer. Then show up during the rut. Good luck this season.
I'm not sure if you've ever seen the data compiled by Steve Sherk or not but it shows a clear connection between temperature drops and daylight buck movement. He runs a guide service here in the mountains of PA and can have over 100 cameras out at any time. The data seems to be solid.
@@chriswigington1572 we are glad to have you in the hunting community. A hunting funnel is any type of land feature that guides a confluence of deer movement into a confined area. For example, an hour-glass shaped high ground area surrounded by swamp would funnel deer thru the skinny pinch. Maybe it’s a bottle neck area of clear cut that has a lot of rut sign. It could be a swamp island that attracts deer. I’ve got a couple videos on this that go into more detail on my channel if you want to watch those. Good luck 👍
Another good comment- that is not accounted for in the data. I set my cameras prior to the time switch (standard time?) then just leave them for the whole fall. But it should still be an accurate distribution of movement throughout the day broken out by hours.
@@northernforestwhitetail ok yep, as long as they didn't change time on their own (like cell cams do), you're good to go. And people watching this can adjust accordingly. Thanks!
Great stuff -LIKED , I'll watch more of your content. It's great to watch hunting videos that DON'T have some silly music and TV meme's and Shakespearean poetic speeches about why they hunt.
Lines up with what ive experienced in MI..⅓ of the bucks i dhot were between 730-830am, ⅓ between 12-1pm, n ⅓ after 5pm...Ya every see the results from the 10yr Pennsylvania gps collar study? They had peak buck movement between 12-1 and most all of the collard deer were bedded down before daylight and started to move again around 10am. I still like to get out an hour or 2 before light. Seem to alway see more when I get out early.. Over the years I've switched more so to meat hunting tho..
Thanks for the video. My biggest Northwoods buck was early afternoon while still hunting a remote area across a beaver dam in the big woods north of Detroit Lakes, MN in Becker County. Great to hear from another Northern Minnesota hunter. Keep up the good work!
You said this data ranges from mid October through November. Does it take in for Daylights savings time change? This won’t matter much when you look at it as a general morning/mid day/evening approach. But if you want to get specific. The time shift could make a huge difference on which hour is best. Also as the days shorten, it changes what “hour the deer moves” even though he is moving 15 minutes before sunrise. I would suggest switching from hours of the day to hours from sunrise/sunset.
Well, you bring up good points. All my data is off of “summer” time (no adjustment for daylight savings). Yeah I’d say use this data in context as you describe. I was going for more of the general approach but certainly more room to get even more specific. Thanks for sharing
Great Video, I developed a habit of getting down for lunch around 10:30 and back out at 2-3. I will be sitting during the midday this year. I have had deep swamp encounters during the midday years ago. LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED
The buck I shot last year was at 1:30pm, November 8th, the first day after a cold front passed through. He was Dogging a doe. I think I've killed squirrels with more food in their belly. Never saw a stomach so void of food in a deer.
@@ML-ks2lj No. He was just on a mission to breed. He was so focused on breeding that he busted me and still followed the doe to within 30 yards of my stand where I shot him. I've heard of finding them with nearly empty stomachs because of their drive to breed before but it's the first time I've seen one with very little in their stomach like that. I mean it's always possible any deer could have that but he showed no signs or symptoms.
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I used to be settled in to hunt before daylight. Occasionally I still do. My preferred method now is to start walking in at daylight, basically still hunting to my blind. I can see better, allowing for quieter walking. Most activity starts around 8:00-8:30. The area Im referringto is not a high pressure spot but has pressure around it. Last year I saw 5 different bucks between 9:30-12:30. There is something to your logic.
Matthew, my man, no way I expected you to put that together so fast. But extremely thankful dude. It was very, very interesting. Especially for us that hunt the big woods. No AG or food plots. The 12 to 1:00 time frame was probably the most surprising to me. The other time frames I can pretty much say I have experienced the same over my career. Good stuff, thank you sir. Side note, nothing hanging yet. Just enjoyable time in the woods. Seeing a few doe. My son passed on a six or five point. Hard to do, especially when you're younger. Anyways, thanks brother. Always appreciate your info. As always, good harvest to you.😉
You were definitely one of the folks that got me the motivation to make the video! Took a long time to compile but it was worth it. That’s really a big deal that your kid did that- says a lot about how into the sport he is. You are doing it right in raising him. I don’t have anything down. That big boy I got on cam early season hasn’t come back. I’ve got a couple other decent ones on cam tho. The golden time of year is just coming up. Good luck 👍
I hunt from 1100 to 1430. The morning guys coming in give me cover to get out and I'm not fouling up anyone's hunt if out of the zone by 1500 hrs. Most guys are back in their camps or vehicles so the woods are mine.
Great job 👏 Thanks for your hard work! Definitely confirms my central New York data as well ! My 2 biggest bucks were killed between 1:00 and 3:15 ! A 157 typical @1:00 and a 182 nontypical @3:15
Enjoy your channel
Nice work- incredible too that you shot them early afternoon. When most folks are in eating lunch. Congrats and thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you so much for putting this together. Your data matches my experience in the big woods of Northeastern MN the biggest Bucks I've seen and shot. Later morning and early afternoon. (This may have been due to other hunter movements during those times). Sadly now we contend with an overpopulation of Wolves.
Yeah we deal with a lot of those wolves as well. They say they eat 18 deer a year per wolf.
Nice job! Thanks for putting in the time to do that. Thats why when i can i do all day sits 3 days in a row 1st and 2nd week of november. Its hard but pays off because you never know what time theyll show up.
Great strategy. Yeah you just never do know what time. Makes for some long hours on stand but it’s worth it if you can hang in there. Thanks for sharing and good luck this fall!
@northernforestwhitetail yeah some days it's a real challenge other days if there's action it makes it worth while. Thanks and good luck to you too.
Great video and good luck this season. I hunt northern lower Michigan and hunt the big woods also. Completely different hunting then the lower Michigan guys. I shot my biggest buck at 5:15 on November 28. Just got a new camera and plan on get it up there in a week. Keep the great content and thanks for sharing your data.
Hey thanks for the note and good luck this fall
My biggest buck was taken at 2:15 pm. November 19th
Getting later in November- nice work.
Very cool, thanks for doing this. The biggest deer I’ve ever seen were between 8:30am-10:30am. If you can sit full day in stand do it, big boys can move anytime. Good luck this season!
Thanks and good luck to you as well!
Every day at 10:00 morning I have three big bucks cross my yard in central Fl.
Sounds like back straps to me
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Thanks for letting me know. I think I fixed it now. I appreciate the note
Hi. Being from Minnesota, you are familiar of the presence of wolves. Do you carry a firearm when scouting? Do you ever see them when scouting…or bear for that matter? Thanks
We have lots of wolves up here. They have never bothered us or made us feel danger. I did however get stalked in the dark walking into my stand last fall though. Bad deal. I think it was a cougar. Could only see its eyes w my headlamp. True story.
I have found that they more in midday when there is a clear night so they move in the middle of the night.
I’ve always wondered what impact a clear night vs a cloudy night makes. Haven’t added up all the data points to conclude any patterns
---> Thanks for the data! Ya gotta love it.
Awesome info my friend... I agree 100 percent...
My biggest deer are 11-2:30
Midday. Crazy deal. Thanks for sharing and good luck.
nice info brotha thx. u got a sub from me
Hey I appreciate it- thanks for sharing and good luck this fall.
One of the best videos I’ve seen on this subject. Well done. I’m curious, of the 4 big bucks, were they native to that area or just cruising through? Had you had them on camera at other times or were these the only pics you had of them? Again, great video!
Two of the three were bucks I only captured one single day (typical of a big woods rut funnel, away from doe-zones). The other one, I had a few different times on cam. I believe that was due to the fact that the camera was in a doe-family area. So naturally that’s an area where a buck will frequent more often during the fall.
Did your study account for the daylight savings time change in November? I know I usually forget to change the clock on my cameras, making the timestamps an hour off for most of November. I don't think that hour difference would significantly alter your results, just something to think about. Your data certainly aligns with my experience.
Two cents worth… the bucks in the early am will try to find some does to breed and if not he will lay up with a ‘doe family group bedding about 15 yards out. If none of them
‘Come onto heat’ in that few hours he’s on his feet looking for another doe group to smell out.”
Seen it happen in the woods a few times. Lucky to see it.
I bow killed couple of very nice bucks on the 1-3 PM time
That had bedded down near my stand and to ‘after noon roaming buck’ came into the family doe group and pushed them around a bit to see if one of them might be close to breeding’.
I have not seen that afternoon roamer Buck stay with that new new afternoon if he couldn’t get a doe who was close to coming in heat to break away with him.
He went in roaming looking for other small doe groups.
Is you know where the doe groups will come back to bed in the morning it’s a pretty good bet that bigger bucks will come by just to check them out. He won’t bed with them like the early ones. He will move on and scrape and hunt does.
Good video. I agree in my 38 years of hunting Whitetails i have killed more big bucks during the rut moving at mid-day than any other time
I love that time of day. Thanks for sharing and good luck
Moral of the story, if you hunt public, you’re still screwed…
Haha most days it feels that way!
Thanks for sharing your research results. Retiring soon and going to have more time to chase some of those public land bucks. Good luck this fall.
You bet- and Good luck to you as well!
Any chance you would be willing to email your excel file blank? I’ve been looking for something like yours
There are many reasons when or why you see a buck , I've shot numerous bucks and have seen more during that late morning early afternoon but have seen them in morning and at last light I feel when they a rutting and chasing does they don't pay attention to where their at or what time of day it is I feel when the rut is on be in the woods it's when those old smart bucks screw up my main concern is not bothering the does before the rut hits , it's early October hunting season bow is open my favorite biting at the bit to go and I saw a slammer on foot in Velvet so it's really hard not to go but I know will see does small bucks and I will watch them figure me out in the early season so don't go I don't do cameras or disturb an area after early August check stands shooting lanes then out I do have a stand I will hunt starting mid October now but wait till Halloween to hunt my main stands but with the rut you just don't know I appreciate the time you put into it but when this rut hits all day in stand for me .
Nice work
Thanks for the information. Good Analysis.
I appreciate it- good luck this fall
Interesting. One suggestion that I have would be to make the graph of times as "hours after sunrise" instead of time on the clock. This would account for shortening days as well as the daylight savings time switch. Thanks for the video though!
Good thought- thanks for sharing
I do many all day sits. However, I will add that I will on public land go in deep and set two stands for morning and evening. I still hunt in between with a tending grunt call during the rut. It makes for an exciting hunt to have a buck run up on me. Even if I don't get the shot I do get the heart pounding 😂
I bet that would do it- good luck!
This has been my experience as well. Both in harvesting the biggest bucks of the area and my trail cams. If you can do it, sit all day during the rut for sure!!!
For sure- thanks for sharing
Is your camera in the middle of the woods or on the edge of a field? Hahaha! May change the time he was spotted on camera... foolishness
I always avoid eye contact
Smart move
OK, I was wrong about 1-2pma, but in E. Tn. where I hunt 12-3 I see a lot of buck movement...
You basically nailed it- my window was just a little longer till 3:00 pm
@@northernforestwhitetail my last 4 out of 5 good bucks have all been harvested between 11:30am & 3pm, with 2 of those just a few minutes after 2pm.
Also ..this is JUST in your area bud...doesn't apply to everyone hunting whitetail...rut happens differently in different areas...wich im sure you know However cudos on the putting together your peak movement...gave me good idea to look back n compile our pictures...Thanks 😊
Right- I usually try to make that clear to folks what part of the country I’m in and to think about where you are.
Pretty cool. The ONLY daylight pictures I got of my mature bucks on scrape lines last year were from 9:30 to noon. Its like casting at the bank while bass fishing....hunting early mornings and late evening is just so ingrained. Breaking that cycle this year.
Good luck!
Man I agree with this. My hunting buddy’s most productive time is 1-2 and mine is 10-11. We have went back and forth about which is better but I guess we can stop arguing now. Thanks
No problem. I did find it pretty interesting to see how many big bucks still moved the whole day. Really not a bad idea to be on stand from 8 am to about 5 pm. Good luck!
You have the best info for big timber hunters out there hands down
The pattern I’ve noticed in my big woods Wisconsin bucks is 9-noon and November 12-16
Excellent times and dates. Good luck this fall
Great video. Gets me amped up for the rut. I'm learning all day sits are the way to go if you can make it work.
Glad you liked it. I try to sit all day or at least most of the day if you can.
What make rifle you using, looks like Marlin
There is no best time to be in a stand. Get out of your tree and hunt like a man....Ban ALL tree stands.
interesting info. it does show that the bucks you got are moving at those times where your cameras are... what it doesn't show is when they're up & moving when they're NOT in front of your cameras.
Yeah good thought. I’m sure if I looked at trail cam pics over a good plot or at field, the spike in activity would be much larger in the evening vs late morning
I'll give you a thumbs up, when you can grow a real beard.
Yikes- that one cuts deep
Before watching I would say from 10:00 am till 2:00 pm.
@@davidsuch5071 you were pretty close! Got most of it with the mid to late morning
I've killed my biggest bucks from the hours of 10:00 - 2:00, there is definitely truth in your findings. I think the bigger bucks move more in the afternoon because most hunters bail at about 9:30 or 10AM.
It’s a great time of day that midday stretch! Thanks for sharing
In my little situation I’ve noticed over the past 20 years or so that, during the rut this exact thing happens. Most of the deer that I got were shot after things sort of started getting going around 730 or later. I would start seeing deer and then even more action during that same window up until about 11 or so. Great video thank you
You bet- thanks for sharing. Good luck this fall.
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Thanks for that information I always try to make it happen I just about going in the dark and come out right before dark if possible
Nice work and good luck
My biggest deer I ever got was at 12:05 lunch time. 152" 10 point. November 16th.
I love it- good luck!
Appreciate your thoughts about sitting in big woods and heavy timber - good reminder!
You bet- thanks for watching. Good luck this fall.
Awesome job!
Thanks! Good luck this fall
What type of cellular trail cameras are you using? I have had some bad luck with one model in particular.
I’m actually just now switching to tacticam. I had a bad experience with Spypoint and am making the switch. I’ve had good luck with non-cell cam bushnells too.
My favorite thing to do is to slip in at around 8am-9am and sit there all day during rut.
Your last statement is all you need to know. 🦌
Penn State University has been doing deer movement studies for a good many years now. They have radio collared deer and they say deer move more during the dawn and dusk hours no matter the season, moon phase, and weather. Any thoughts on this?
Yeah… I’ve pondered that before. I think we need to keep in mind the time of year. I bet that in general, throughout the year, it’s true that deer move most at dawn and dusk. However what I’m showing on my cameras is specifically that pre rut and peak rut timeframe. I’ve looked at those studies and pondered why the trail cam photos don’t align with them. But the trail cam photos don’t lie.
4 minute intro. Really?
So you have done a good job with this video. However, I think you should have put the frequency numbers on the graph to provide better precision and context. When you say 11 years people are inclined to think you have a lot of data, but in reality perhaps it really isn’t that much. For instance for the 1100 to 1200 slot is that 5 deer or 50 deer? Sample size is important to know if it is enough data to be relevant. I would say however that in my experience of hunting deer for 46 years I do see a lot of deer during the 1100 to 100 time, but I think it is often from hunters moving in and out of the woods at lunchtime which moves deer. I always stay on stand for this and wait until at least 100 to go eat. You have a new subscriber my man. Thanks for your work.
Astute comments here. I think I ended up with almost 300 data points for all slots combined. I will pull an exact number. Yeah it’s certainly not a peer reviewed or overly-scientific study. Just my trail camera photos. Gives us a general sense of the situation though. If someone really wanted to poke holes in this they certainly could. But overall, I think the general takeaway is still valuable, even with its imperfections. I appreciate the sub and the comment. Hope your fall is shaping up well.
@@northernforestwhitetail 300 photos of adult bucks in daylight hours sounds like a good amount of data to me.👍
Awesome video. Thanks for putting all that data together. Good luck this season!
You bet- thanks for sharing and good luck!
Do you feel bucks are much more likely to move early afternoon any certain week or pretty even throughout the rut?
I made a video discussing this: ua-cam.com/video/Kw7qUwYdabI/v-deo.htmlsi=Zr6nCVZTQMUMtl68
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting and useful.
You bet- glad you liked it. Good luck this fall!
Hello and good morning watching your other videos and I was wondering do you bother baiting or do you keep it natural. I’m curious to see if baiting turns the deer nocturnal. Our rifle season on Manitoulin Island starts Nov.20 and from your Bell curve it would be well past the peak rut movement. It’s just great being in the outdoors. Good luck hunting.
No baiting on any of these photos. It’s not even legal in MN to do that. Thanks for sharing and good luck!
They claim there's no such thing as a nocturnal buck! 🤔 idk man? Seems that when pressure is on the only time you'll see em is at night but they claim that they always move. That a buck you want is in the daytime moving somewhere and that it will bed during evening . Check out the study that was just done by the university of Mississippi something or nother ....all I remember is it was a Mississippi college that did the study and they made a lot of great points. They collared like 3,000 deer and watched there routines daily and then checked and compared the data. That's what I am about is the data cuz data don't lie. Just check it out and see what ya think. It will help with said question.
I hurt my stand at 10 AM until 2 PM. That’s when the monsters come out.
Bingo-
Do you scout trails and scrapes and then set up trail cell cameras?
Yeah, my cameras are always over one or the other (trails or a scrape). Sometimes I make a mock scrape if a natural one doesn’t exist.
I might have missed this, but what state is this from. Great video by the way!
Hey thanks- I’m up in northern MN. All my photos in this video came from this area
Not sure of you noticed but the 1st and 2nd bucks were on the full moon. The 4th buck was on the new moon. The 3rd buck was at ~65% full. Thanks for the content.
I did not catch that- good eye. Thanks for sharing
@@northernforestwhitetail i have noticed mature bucks move mid day (11-3) on days of full moon more often than not in the rut or not. I think it's situational and how safe they feel, but I think they definitely have the urge to move. I actually think the reason that mature bucks move more in the mid day during the rut is because they know that does are bedded, so when they cut the trail of a hot doe, it is much easier to find her mid day when she is bedded than if she up moving around in the evening, morning, or night. Just my thoughts.
Thanks for doing this. I may do this this year. Great idea.
You bet- glad you found not useful. Good luck this fall 👍
Great data and a lot of work to track! Your data matches mine from northeast NY with the only difference is in my 3 years of data the most rut activity occurs 5 days later than yours. Great job, thanks!
That’s great! Your terrain and ours isn’t all that different. I love the big woods.
I’ve never heard of the term Rut funnel he must’ve said it 10 times, Is he talking about a natural landscape panel like a saddle?
@@Canadaman4403 in this video I explain what I’m looking for in my rut funnels: ua-cam.com/video/091RNlxAxWE/v-deo.htmlsi=I2_xWLY8_bEPwuHh
yes, anything that funnels deer into an area that they use a lot during the rut would be a rut funnel. A saddle between 2 doe bedding areas would be a great one@@Canadaman4403
I was bow hunting and saw nothing but on the way home in the dark there was a buck nose on the gravel road chasing a doe naturally
I love to see that
This is a really great video, but I live and hunt in the rolling hills of the Piedmont region of Virginia. How does this change the buck's habits?
My biggest buck 17pt 10:15am
Awesome- thanks for sharing
Is this typical for all months of the season or just rutting
@@timhughes5939 just rutting
Dear God, the intro is forever and repeating the same info, get to the video already
Oofda bud
Without waiting to see what your best time was. I'm going to say 9 am.
Good guess
Great info. I love this type of info based on data.
Glad you liked it- good luck this fall
Very nice tech work. Thanks.
You bet- good luck this fall
Great DATA!!! I'LL see if it's on!
Good luck out there 👍
Less talk more evidence
Like??
Biggest buck I ever saw was during rutt around 2pm. I was sitting next to a pond.
What state do you hunt? I’m in Illinois and wonder if that effects rut timeframes
I’m in northern MN. They say the rut occurs later the further south you go. Do you see differences in the dates?
I was referencing your previous video where you had the dates. They look very similar to the dates we see most activity. Usually November 4-12 is when we get the most action. Thanks for the response and great videos 👍🏻
I grew up hunting southern Michigan. But since moved to the upper peninsula of Michigan which is where my family is originally from and where some still live. UP hunting kicks my butt. I've managed to shoot a couple bucks but it's tough. Early season I cannot figure the bucks out at all. It's like they don't exist. NW up by lake superior
I know the feeling. Most of my big woods spots don’t have bucks show up on my camera until late October. I’ve put out miners sites in the summer and ran cameras trying to figure out where they live early season and to this day I’ve never figured it out. Like you say it’s almost like they don’t exist in the summer. Then show up during the rut. Good luck this season.
Now go back and look at temperature and barometric pressure of your data! That would be very good extra data to have!
That’s a good idea. I don’t know if I could ever accurately back date it all though. Thanks for sharing
I'm not sure if you've ever seen the data compiled by Steve Sherk or not but it shows a clear connection between temperature drops and daylight buck movement. He runs a guide service here in the mountains of PA and can have over 100 cameras out at any time. The data seems to be solid.
I want to give you a shout out thank you so very much
You bet! Good luck
Thanks for sharing, good stuff 👍
You bet good luck this fall
Great content, thank you for sharing.
You bet thanks for watching
So I’m pretty new at hunting and never had anyone to teach me how to hunt. That being said, what is a rut funnel?
@@chriswigington1572 we are glad to have you in the hunting community. A hunting funnel is any type of land feature that guides a confluence of deer movement into a confined area. For example, an hour-glass shaped high ground area surrounded by swamp would funnel deer thru the skinny pinch. Maybe it’s a bottle neck area of clear cut that has a lot of rut sign. It could be a swamp island that attracts deer. I’ve got a couple videos on this that go into more detail on my channel if you want to watch those. Good luck 👍
@@northernforestwhitetail thank u! I will be checking out your other videos!
Today; 13 Nov 2023: 1:48pm
Congrats!
Very nice.
Daylight Savings Time changes over first weekend in November, so middle of your study window. Is that accounted for in the data?
Another good comment- that is not accounted for in the data. I set my cameras prior to the time switch (standard time?) then just leave them for the whole fall. But it should still be an accurate distribution of movement throughout the day broken out by hours.
@@northernforestwhitetail ok yep, as long as they didn't change time on their own (like cell cams do), you're good to go.
And people watching this can adjust accordingly. Thanks!
@@tythomps you bet- good catch though. I should have said that in the video
@@northernforestwhitetail yeah, hard to add that into the video at this point, but can put in the description at least
@@northernforestwhitetailalso... Sub'd 👍
what do you consider a rut funnel
I recently made a video on this exact question- you can watch it here: ua-cam.com/video/091RNlxAxWE/v-deo.htmlsi=9BFu8mD9opn5kCQA
I found between 10:30 to 1:00 is the best here in New York
Good time slot there- good luck this fall.
Great stuff -LIKED , I'll watch more of your content.
It's great to watch hunting videos that DON'T have some silly music and TV meme's and Shakespearean poetic speeches about why they hunt.
Ha- that’s great to hear. Thanks for the “like”. I hate to say stuff like that but it’s the game that UA-cam wants ppl to play.
Lines up with what ive experienced in MI..⅓ of the bucks i dhot were between 730-830am, ⅓ between 12-1pm, n ⅓ after 5pm...Ya every see the results from the 10yr Pennsylvania gps collar study? They had peak buck movement between 12-1 and most all of the collard deer were bedded down before daylight and started to move again around 10am. I still like to get out an hour or 2 before light. Seem to alway see more when I get out early.. Over the years I've switched more so to meat hunting tho..
I hadn’t seen that research no. But very interesting- thanks for sharing
Before I finish watching, I am going to guess 1pm-2pm as to the time you recorded the largest bucks. We'll see if I'm close.....
You were spot on with your guess nice job
great info thanks
You bet, good luck this fall.
Thanks for the video. My biggest Northwoods buck was early afternoon while still hunting a remote area across a beaver dam in the big woods north of Detroit Lakes, MN in Becker County. Great to hear from another Northern Minnesota hunter. Keep up the good work!
I love it- beautiful country over there in Becker county. Not too far from me. Nothing like hunting these north woods bucks! Thanks for sharing.
Awesome video great info always enjoy watching your stuff. Good luck this season
Hey thanks I appreciate that! I saw you made a trip over to Wisconsin. Good luck this fall.
You said this data ranges from mid October through November. Does it take in for Daylights savings time change? This won’t matter much when you look at it as a general morning/mid day/evening approach. But if you want to get specific. The time shift could make a huge difference on which hour is best. Also as the days shorten, it changes what “hour the deer moves” even though he is moving 15 minutes before sunrise. I would suggest switching from hours of the day to hours from sunrise/sunset.
Well, you bring up good points. All my data is off of “summer” time (no adjustment for daylight savings). Yeah I’d say use this data in context as you describe. I was going for more of the general approach but certainly more room to get even more specific. Thanks for sharing
I’m from sc. any data on that 7:34
I don’t have any from SC unfortunately.
Great information
Glad you found it helpful good luck this fall
Great Video, I developed a habit of getting down for lunch around 10:30 and back out at 2-3. I will be sitting during the midday this year. I have had deep swamp encounters during the midday years ago. LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED
I appreciate that! Good luck this fall. Hope you get a big one
The buck I shot last year was at 1:30pm, November 8th, the first day after a cold front passed through. He was Dogging a doe. I think I've killed squirrels with more food in their belly. Never saw a stomach so void of food in a deer.
Crazy what those things go thru during the rut. Thanks for sharing
Cwd maybe?
@@ML-ks2lj No. He was just on a mission to breed. He was so focused on breeding that he busted me and still followed the doe to within 30 yards of my stand where I shot him. I've heard of finding them with nearly empty stomachs because of their drive to breed before but it's the first time I've seen one with very little in their stomach like that. I mean it's always possible any deer could have that but he showed no signs or symptoms.
Add Temperature !!!
So many good ideas.. so little time! That would be interesting to graph
Thanks for sharing
You bet thanks for watching!
Nice, I’m in ma. , your graph is right on. During the rut, I get more Bucks between 10 and 2,
Awesome- cool to know you guys out east are so closely aligned with us in northern Midwest