Can I Mix Oats in my TMR?
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hope rhat bag stays ok we were told run very low pressure bagging chopped oats it will swell . I did it and a week later the bag split the whole way down the top .I had to rebag it all
My son used to fall asleep behind the seat in his grandpa’s 4430 when he was working ground, haha!
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When I fed haylage out of Ag Bags,I used my tine manure bucket for my Skid Loader to loosen the haylage before scooping with my regular bucket.
Love seeing you and Grant man working together.....get him involved young. ❤️🙏🇺🇲
Hrant has a great start to the farming life lol. I couldn't even begin to guess the hours I spent as a kid riding on the arm rest of a sound guard JD or just the fender of a tractor lol
Makes great feed we used to cut it at boot stage, we would use it more as a filler in our tmr ration for milk cows, great young stock feed! Also we did thee live trap and relocate for a long time, then we took to rougher methods, unfortunately our feed is too valuable too play nice with the varmints, thanks from mn
You can also use the backhoe to knock the feed loose before scooping. Might be a little bit more messing around but idk why it wouldn't work
TIM from Canada if you put a tarp or a piece of plastic under your… flap that goes into your auger this way at the end, you have easy way to clean up all you have to do is pull your tarp out and everything is on your tarp. no tarp means that you were digging stuff off the ground and usually dirt or mud or get into this some sort of a tarp under your equipment is going to help you with your cleanup…. you can just drag the turbo and put it in the back of something, put it in the front and loader on another waggon or on some sort of skid steer.
@@timnash6870 yeah I need to start doing that
From old white haired farmer spent a lot of time on B john deere and ub moline with dad and oldest brother started driving B john deere and then dad bought 4010 john deere 5 bottom plow what a tractor everything power steering and brakes to look back on that plow I thought I could plow the world
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Great video Kip. Grant is around the same age when My Grandfather used to take me out in the fields with him.
A great way to learn about life is on the farm having someone teaching you. He did a great job for me for sure 83 still hanging in there.
Your videos are absolutely aw, inspiring best on the Internet thanks for the post. Absolutely awesome.
I took the cutting edge plate off the bucket and built one with short forks on it (6 inches long) to help break up the silage/haylage. It works best in the winter. Weld the 1/2 inch spikes on a cutting bar and then bolt up like the original cutter blade. Just make scooping up the feed easier, just like a pitch fork vs a scoop shovel 😊
As for oatlage, we usually try to cut it while it's in the milk stage, but that might be our region.
In the 80s and early 90s, some of the oatlage was put on top of the haylage in the silo for the milk cows.
Yes, we have put plain oatlage in bags, we usually used a bucket and grapple, but thats what we had. My uncles preferred an oats peas mix for their Holsteins if they were going to chop.
On the one hand, the oatlage is no different than the corn, the higher the grain content, the better the feed. One beef calf feeder said it well by saying, chop the good corn otherwise I'll have to add more ground corn to the ration later. I guess it all depends on where you want your production levels at. Which comes with a grain of salt, like buying extra pounds of milk, then as you know the extra pounds of milk production might mean a couple extra open cows at your monthly herd health check.
Great video Kip! I aiways fed oatlage from new seedins to my dairy herd, great feed and the cows loved it. Whenever my mixer wagon would break down and I had to feed with a forage wagon i would load the wagon a evenly as possible, then rum it off on a cement pad and reload it to insure a better mix An extra step but it worked good. Keep the videos coming!!
That’s dedication!
@@KipSieglerFarming1 I think you're on the right track with the ag bags and mixer wagon!! Milking parlor update one day?
We have chopped just straight oats. Everything we chop is piled. I wanna say it was 11-13% protein when it tested out. It works good for beef cows but I’m guessing probably not so much for milking cows. Everything we feed is through a tmr mixer
TIM from Canada a bucket or Tele handler…. if you were going to use a bucket you want it small enough so it dumps into whatever you were using but deep enough so it gives you enough volume for your loads….
Telehandler would really work if you could afford one 👍
We had a 1970 JD 4000 diesel powershift (1 of 248 made) running a 2006 926 moco. Old running new lol
Yes it is!
The best raccoon trap I saw was a dumpster with a steep slope on it and a few bags of tasty garbage In the back. Stacked up pallets to allow entry and a greasy slope they couldn't climb out. The dumpster I saw had 11 raccoons in it.
Hope you can unload the TMR mixer slow enough to run in the old conveyors,not sure about that?? D 14 AC riding on the tool against the fender and DAD 1950s something!! Thanks young man!!
Another awesome video. Never grew or harvested corn, but put in plenty of hay. Nothing like hay season, loved it and miss it every day.
I use a sidsteer and bucket for haylage and silage works good for ag bags. Measure the lines on the side of the bag, best indicator on how your packing your bag. I farm across the bay from you, field tile is worth every dime you spend on it.
If my memory is correct C2 is around 7 mph B3 is 8 B4 is 10 !! We had a 4040 and 4240
Thanks for another great video Kip and Grant.
It was interesting and enjoyable to watch for sure.
You asked about oats. When still farming we mixed oats with our Haysliage and it worked good for us. Our herd did well on it. You shouldn’t have any issues with it Kip.
You hay silage bags are looking good I think. You have them nice and fat and tight. That is the way you want them. Works good that way.
Like your bag setup.
Grant likes to ride in the tractor with you. That is great. Being a good dad Kip. He will always remember that.
About it i guess. Thanks for everything. You all take care and be safe.
The Iowa farm boy. Steve.
Second cutting looks really good. Have a great week and stay safe!
Hey Kip my experience with feeding oatlage is more older heifer or dry cow feed. The nutritional value is not there when oats head out you may be able to blend it with some very good testing haylahe but a test will show you what you got. Keeping them bags full n tight is the answer oxygen is your enemy.
As long as you catch the hole fast, you can patch with bag tape or silage tape and prevent some spoilage. Whoever sells your bags can get you a couple rolls. I used to fight it with baleage. Patch them fast and it'll help.
Bucket works great,in the winter just keep a set of forks close by and just pick it apart as needed every day
Tape the bag up start at the bottom and work up. We feed oats along with haylage. Side by side. I used the John deere 310E or the 7230 to load out of the bag. 4240 came out in 1978
Yeah I would get a kick out of this one I meant pa you say Dad let's go take care of him and retire happy
Kids will be kids
Keep everything looking golden no matter the weather best for tractors well kept mind you are for peace out stay safe 💕
Talk to walk walk the talk brother's favorite saying stay safe and keep it between the ditches
Not many people say they miss farming but I do thanks for dedication let's go what's your brother do the hammer down just to say that word on joke stop the good work and lay low
With the Bags you can make decent, and even very good feed feed. Timing is everything, no matter how you store it. And the only option to unload an upright silo is a pitchfork. Think about THAT!
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Always enjoy your videos. Have a 4040 and a 4055
Hi kip, great video. We had trouble with raccoons and skunks too(and crows). We tried box trapping for awhile but there to smart for that. We eventually just put an electric fence around it and that fixed the small critter problem. But I think theres another trap you should try that we didn't have them. It's called a dog proof paw trap. Works good. Got mine from the local feed mill.
Great video Kip awesome to see the generation,s getting the job done
Thanks Kip, great video. 👍👍💪🗽✌️
We use a spring trit and forage pea blend as a nurse crop for new seeding. Chop and bag it. It works great and makes nice feed. Just keep an eye on your stretch bars cuz it won’t pack the same as haylage.
Yes, those series of tractors were very good and so were the series before them.
Get a good fencer and install a couple hot wires around them
Another very interesting video Thank you
Great lunches great video
We have problem with craws picking our corn silage i pached other day 5 houles. We used to do streight oat silage and put in bunk and we feeded to milk cows in tmr about 900 to 1000 kg per meal. After taking oats off put corn for silage
Looks like some nice weather up north for you.
We've been using bags for over 20 years always used regular bucket to load watch the strech marks on the bag I filled one to tight an the bag blew open all the way down the top 200 ft bag big mess
great heifer feed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Might try spraying some coyote urine on those Ag Bags. It might might be a good supplement to the traps
For removing haylage from ag-bags get yourself a skid loader bucket with teeth on it,(construction bucket) .
I’ve heard someone say that 👍👍
@@KipSieglerFarming1we have silos but we are taking them down to put grain bins up because we are having issues with corn storage
I rode behind the seat with my grandpa in the 4020 and 4320
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We used to chop oats green for dairy cows only, they ate it like candy. We had a regular bucket on our skid steer and it worked fine, a little tough in the winter since it’s frozen and were loading in to an old barge wagon. You might want to invest into a claw bucket for whatever you use weather it’s a skid loader or back hoe depending how tall your tmr wagon is.
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My bro in-law either uses a rock bucket for busting up and scooping haylage or he'll use a bale fork to loosen a bunch up and then regular bucket on the skid.
Busy time. We mix chopped oats with every forage too
Have to make it in boot stage for cow feed will be good dry cow feed or heifer feed
@@ryanherzog7839 dry cow yes
U can feed oats and peas and tricale to cows u make it right lots of milk
Grant sure enjoys the tractor.
Do you ever plan on putting in a concrete bunks for silage, like the European and some American dairy farmers use ?
@@philhosier9185 might just pour a big area and it’s called a drive over pile
@@KipSieglerFarming1I have seen a few farmers fill two bags with silage then fill a silage pack between them using the bags as bunker walls
another great video
Oat Silage is great feed but closer to corn silage with high energy, not near the protein of haylage
That stuff smells so good freshly cut.
We used to plant poison oats and peas and that was wonderful feed for the cows they really melt on it that be the same way cut that really high protein is a lot of peas and oats on the new seating field
If you stay with bags for the more long term planning, a different bagger would be a big help. There’s not anything wrong with an “AG-Bag” bagger, but we run a Martin Bagger, and it has a hydraulic brake, and we fold the bag end down over itself. No need for cables and the cage at the end. It’s only an 8’ bag, just because that’s what people want, but we can do up to 300’ and I believe you van get them in a 10’ tunnel as well. It’s an auger pack versus a tooth drum, and we feel like it keeps the feed mote intact, and doesn’t mutilate the feed as it goes in.
@@TheRealJesseStoltzfus that’s a good point 👍👍
When a man needs a drink he needs a drink! Nothin wrong with a pink cup!
Figuring no new round bailer with all the bags.
Yes we use bags with pea and oat we use it for heifers
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Well I bet it has that cool hydrolic pump in front .
we never left the bag on the bagger
Good Morning Kip ( Just wondering if you recycle those grain storage bags ? ) I'm sure they aren't reusable .
You don't want to over stretch your bag with oats, it expands and the bag will split and rebagging it sucks. Keep 1/4 to 1/2 inch under your max stretch lenth!
Your work is really interesting
Dryer better ya pack it tight good fiber if have that wet alfalfa 2nd cut it will balance it out but strait up there not much milk in it better heifer or dry cow feed we used 4x4 tractor with bucket you'll have get off tractor shovel a bit nice if had cement everybody getting feed wellr rockroll
Can't beat New Holland hay tools.
Good job guys PBJ hard to beat
i wet bale mine and the cows go crazy over it. I feed one wet bale and one dry all winter
That oats would be good dry cow feed
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bucket will be fine ...just shave the front little at a time if you get a tight spot
Ticket take care of pot going over do it and slow down and enjoy the memories Farmers not forever it's a lifestyle
Caught my ass yes your dad did catch you smoking pot get it straight and stay focused I mean today's forecast is 🤔
Kip if you’re going to do that much begging, you must look into a new bagger, because if that one one goes down, you’re gonna be hurting you ain’t gonna be able to fill bags that’s my opinion from Wisconsin
Nutritionist would know all this
@@farmshoffman8475 yeah he’ll probably test it and just go from there
@@KipSieglerFarming1 we had to test ours the ration was always different,
If you have a good nutritionist, they'll take a sample of each individual product, send them in. Like 1st cutting, 2nd cutting, corn silage, oatlage or however. Then they should get samples from a few mixer wagon batches to see what needs to get adjusted.
What I mean is, sometimes A + B might not always equal C, when you may need to adjust the pounds of product like more silage or less haylage, or use a different vitamin/mineral package or variety number of mineral to most balanced diet. I wouldn't kick the free choice long stem hay to the curb yet. Some cows may need the extra filler
I rode with my dad on a John Deere model 50
Back when I was a kid we had a John deere B
223 dose a killer job at raccoon control :)
Tape those holes shut
Save the feed
Oh how do measure the grain that you give to your coŵs?
Right now but just how hard their manure is, that’s why I think putting in bad will be best for measurement
I round bale with our John Deere 4250
Do you let every alfalfa field bloom before cutting ?
As a former dairyman, it's best to cut the alfalfa in the bud stage for nutritional value. For every blossom, the feed value goes down. Well that was according to our nutritionist.
oats best feed for cows.
Maybe try a dog proof trap but only one way to release
Lol yeah, lead treatment!
Why not just put a bunk silo up if your going to a mixer wagon.
@@davidvogel2592 was trying not to have to spend the money on concrete or asphalt but might be heading that way
Give them time! They will get there. Can’t do everything at once.
Once you get a bunk silo you'll wish you done it 20 years ago
@davidvogel2592 my dad and I were only talking about a bunker or pad for 20 years before it actually happened
Spent many hours on cables gas Allis Chalmers cutting hay bailing hay
And dad to think that you were crazy post ing take cae y brother have another go around keeping Fields keep them oiled 😮
Let's see hey let's go iron maiden stay safe later a song for your pops is Earl Scruggs let's get her done call steakhouse love each other don't be afraid to slap each other around
and you are going to regret turning turning the pressure on that bag
you need to get a nutritionist
Dìd you not just put new roofs on them silos?
@@danielglaus2064 yes but that was all insurance replacement from hail storm plus I’m not putting my boy in one of those things not worth it to me
Electric fence kept them coons out of my sweet corn
I wonder how long those cuernos could grow??????
you are going to regret it
TIM from Canada a bucket or Tele handler…. if you were going to use a bucket you want it small enough so it dumps into whatever you were using but deep enough so it gives you enough volume for your loads….