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Shaxx was right…To blame them for an ill conceived wish is like blaming a fire for burning down a house. Tarranis definitely proved that ahamkara have the capacity to not be vicious manipulators. The dungeon ahamkara hfend can to a degree even be considered as well as his wishes after his death were used to help people rather than harm them
I mean hefnd sounds like a great ahamkara, obviously he can’t grant wishes for free, but it was never stated that he twisted any of the dark age peoples wishes, only made naeem take the burden of the wish (which is what she wanted anyway)
@@jacobtuck3086 Their heads differ. Taranis had, for lack of a word, more appendages than Riven -and they were sharper. Compare his image at 6:02 to images of the illusion from Witch Queen and I think you might see the bit of resemblance. *I was thinking of it as Savathun being sneaky again.
I swear if Bungie turns one more character gay I’m done with this game. It feels a bit like Disney and what they are doing lore wise. Not what I signed up for in a game.
@@Spitfyre1011 don’t start with that crap. I got nothing against them but I don’t wanna see it. Games are trying to go down the political path and use gender and other hot button issues in their games. I play to escape reality not to see more of that crap. Go back to any classic game. No gay or political agendas in any of those.
@@Arctis326 not sure what you mean by that? I have friends that are gay. In real life and online but they don’t put any of their business in anyones face.
I'm not happy the story is stuck beneath this once-a-week Easter egg hunt, but the actual story has been pretty good. Shades of Haunted in it's portrayals, love the themes of love, betrayal, retribution, and reconciliation.
The reason he “died” was because the only way he could grand his own wish is by using his life as the bad denominator for the wish, not cause it killed him, their wishes always have an opposite reaction so his was is physical death
I thought his whole thing was granting wishes without the bad denominator, ahamkaras don’t need to have a negative+wish it’s just they don’t grow as strong if they don’t and the actual reason he died was because when ahakaras grant wished they feed of the wish so when he made his own wish he just fed off himself in turn killing hisself
So ahamkara sustain themselves on the difference between what the wisher actually wants, and the wish they get, after it has been twisted. Taranis tried to limit how much he twisted wishes, and riven says it must’ve taken a toll. As the wish he made was unable to be altered, as he himself made it, he literally starved himself to death, as he used energy granting a wish, but got no sustenance from it, as he obviously can’t twist the wish as he himself made it
But also wish dragons need some kind of bad turnout for there wish to come true and in this case it was his physical body as far as we know, his bones could talk to us in the future though
Him bringing riven to Mara was the revelation of the ahamkara. Riven literally said before, the ahamkara were free to roam the dreaming city and that when she met Taranis.
Uldren was tasked with bringing home a unique power, Riven was the first of that description This revelation just means that Taranis was among those that came to Mara afterwards For me though, why did Mara imprison Riven, when she could've chosen Taranis as her secret Ahamkara, Taranis gave true wishes which would've removed the need to make the wishing wall
Riven's cutscene suggests that this whole time, most of the Ahamkara have been causing a negative effect along with whatever wish they grant by choice. Is there any other lore talking about this?
Not sure about specific lore BUT I do know that the Ahamkara choosing to create negative effects with their wishes is more of a survival adaptation than simple choice to be evil. The story has told us (and there is more lore talking about this) that Ahamkara feed on the “difference between what is desired and what is,” so it makes sense that a creature able to grant wishes would twist them in order to have more “food.” This is why Riven was so attracted to Teranus- he rose above this part of their nature and granted wishes without twisting them; he probably suffered from this. I equate it to a single parent who can barely afford food and yet, because they love their kids, forego meals so that they can give more food to their children. Technically a choice, but a difficult one because it defies the parents’ evolutionary nature and is rooted solely in love.
Ahamkara feed of the difference between what is desired and what is, as in the difference between what the wisher wants and what the wish ends up being, it’s like a monkeys paw, and is almost always negative
“Gee I sure hope they don’t do this thing I can see they’re going to do” you sound silly. If you can see the subtext even when you don’t want it to be there, what are you mad about?
Ik it will never happen but imagine being able to do the finale shape seeing cayde gain with multiple exotic armor this is the big war😂😂, stepping out the portal with knuck radar, oathkeeper, ophida, and stompee/ lucky pants 🤌🏾🤌🏾 the drip
And of course they made another character part of the LGBTQ plus movement at this point, is there any character besides zavala that aren't woke tokens for bungee the panda about.
@@MrVidman14They haven't made him yet, but with their track record. Old friend that you used to spend a lot of time with is a gay partner now. Helen destiny 1. It wasn't even hinted that Osiris and Saint really even knew each other. Just that saint you got a shotgun from Osiris. And that is literally there extent of their interaction. Then early destiny 2. Their friends and saint goes looking for Osiris after he disappears. Then all of a sudden there lovers . That's what they're doing here now again. Honestly, I would have made him the secret lover of Petra venge and that's why she was so angry at him because she felt personally betrayed.
Mara has a long term scheme to win her brother back, to have (essentially) a Lightbearer under her control. What better avenue than the restoration of a once inseparable friendship. Petra, when all is said and done serves her Queen's interests. Crow needs to bear that in mind when accepting 'advice' from her.
Actually, I think Mara is done with that. The Guardians will be her allies because her brother is one of their leaders and she is working on amending her relationship with him. If anything, I think Crow/Uldren being separated from Mara and have some distance from her has done wonders for him and for her. Of course death is also a factor as well, but I think the two of them have done some growing as individuals.
Crow has already made it clear he isn't interested in going back, he worked hard to be accepted by the vanguard (still being sneered) Lore states however that a friend of Mara, had a dream that included Uldren being at the scene in which Mara attacked a pyramid and ripped it in half (Uldren being at the scene in the dream doesn't mean he's Uldren again, it just means the people of the dreaming city wouldnt know Uldren would die, and become Crow) The dream wasn't taken seriously, but general lore of destiny says such dreams are a vision of the future
@@thomaspurol9322it’s just a bunch of shitty writers from tumblr that Bungo hired for their shit fan fiction that write the human characters I swear to god.
Petra could have just known that Crow doesn't have many friends. He's somewhat reconciled with Mara, might as well reach out to other Awoken. Taranis, the exception that proves the rule... if we didn't already meet Hefnd.
So you know how the season leading up to the big expansion is usually the strongest of the year and a total banger? Yeah, Wish ain't one of those. What are we even doing telling love stories between dead ahakmara that have no relevance to the story whatsoever? The big plot twist of *who sent the eggs away* wasn't a plot from within Maras court or another Savathuun trick, it was... drumroll please: Rivens Dead Boyfriend! Whoopdifuckindoo What are we doing with our lives oh my fuck
I agree with you about the story lately. I enjoyed the exotic mission and learning a tad bit more about the ahamkara. Idk if the exotic is "meta" but i like it 😂 sidenote, ill always love the background music you use for these videos.
They’re really are taking this story in non sensical directions. The am surprised people still find the “lore” compelling. They just keep rewriting old themes in new ways
I do a lot of stay-cations. Western AUstralia is real big with some lovely coast lines. Usually rent a house, have a weekend getaway. Play some games before i go to sleep. That kind of thing.
I still don’t get why ahamkara skulls seem so inconsistent throughout Destiny. The skull on Young Ahamkara’s Spine doesn’t look like the Skull of Dire Ahamkara, the ahamkara skull hanging over where Lord Shaxx stands; and none of those skulls look like they would fit into place if you compared them to how Riven’s head looks. I guess I’ll keep assuming there’s different species of ahamkara or something.
because they can shapeshift, just because they have a base form doesn't mean they died in that base form, and we have no proof that they revert back to their original form upon death. So thus the skulls would look different.
Over all it was neat and yeah characters out of the blue does seem a bit too easy but they are trying to build out the dragon lore here. Bow is fun, looking forward the catalysts to give it more utility.
So many closeted people in the comments 😂. They thought their favorite game could help them reject those thoughts, but now they're mad even Destiny makes them question themselves lmaooo
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I didn’t expect the exotic story mission to be so touching
I love how crow references the head of a vex gate lord
Shaxx was right…To blame them for an ill conceived wish is like blaming a fire for burning down a house. Tarranis definitely proved that ahamkara have the capacity to not be vicious manipulators. The dungeon ahamkara hfend can to a degree even be considered as well as his wishes after his death were used to help people rather than harm them
I mean hefnd sounds like a great ahamkara, obviously he can’t grant wishes for free, but it was never stated that he twisted any of the dark age peoples wishes, only made naeem take the burden of the wish (which is what she wanted anyway)
Taranis is the dad of the century in destiny
I love that you can tell just by the opening Mylin is super interested in the story now than over the past couple of weeks.
Taranis evoked more emotion in 10 minutes than anything in the Lightfall campaign.
Did anyone else notice Taranis resembles the Ahamkarah Illusion from that one quest in Witch Queen? Makes me raise an eyebrow at Savathun.
Or they just used that design and recycled.
Don't they all just look the same
@@jacobtuck3086 Their heads differ. Taranis had, for lack of a word, more appendages than Riven -and they were sharper. Compare his image at 6:02 to images of the illusion from Witch Queen and I think you might see the bit of resemblance. *I was thinking of it as Savathun being sneaky again.
Pretty sure the Ahamkara illusion in WQ was just Riven's model.
@@supercato9613 It had different appendages then her, if you put their images next to each other. The lower jaw, mainly
I swear if Bungie turns one more character gay I’m done with this game. It feels a bit like Disney and what they are doing lore wise. Not what I signed up for in a game.
honestly just quit now if that's a dealbreaker for you, they'll be doing a lot more of this garbage for however long this game has left to exist
Why does it upset you so much?
Never had a friend of the same sex huh
@@Spitfyre1011 don’t start with that crap. I got nothing against them but I don’t wanna see it. Games are trying to go down the political path and use gender and other hot button issues in their games. I play to escape reality not to see more of that crap. Go back to any classic game. No gay or political agendas in any of those.
@@Arctis326 not sure what you mean by that? I have friends that are gay. In real life and online but they don’t put any of their business in anyones face.
I'm not happy the story is stuck beneath this once-a-week Easter egg hunt, but the actual story has been pretty good. Shades of Haunted in it's portrayals, love the themes of love, betrayal, retribution, and reconciliation.
The reason he “died” was because the only way he could grand his own wish is by using his life as the bad denominator for the wish, not cause it killed him, their wishes always have an opposite reaction so his was is physical death
I thought his whole thing was granting wishes without the bad denominator, ahamkaras don’t need to have a negative+wish it’s just they don’t grow as strong if they don’t and the actual reason he died was because when ahakaras grant wished they feed of the wish so when he made his own wish he just fed off himself in turn killing hisself
So ahamkara sustain themselves on the difference between what the wisher actually wants, and the wish they get, after it has been twisted. Taranis tried to limit how much he twisted wishes, and riven says it must’ve taken a toll. As the wish he made was unable to be altered, as he himself made it, he literally starved himself to death, as he used energy granting a wish, but got no sustenance from it, as he obviously can’t twist the wish as he himself made it
@@georgenewman196 basically
@@harrisonyoung3857 it’s more like he had to use something to use for the wish and his body was the only thing that could be of use in that stance
But also wish dragons need some kind of bad turnout for there wish to come true and in this case it was his physical body as far as we know, his bones could talk to us in the future though
I think (hope) Uldren and Jolyon were friends like Samwise and Frodo rather than lovers
What? They are just friends.
They are good Friends bro not gay lol hahahahahah
@@ErkanZH The way relationships get written in this game, anything may happen.
@@12SlimJims Hope its not like this. Crow Loved Amanda (just Guessing)
Didnt Uldren bring Riven as a baby to Mara on the reef?
Yes he did, so this new lore is confusing
Him bringing riven to Mara was the revelation of the ahamkara. Riven literally said before, the ahamkara were free to roam the dreaming city and that when she met Taranis.
Uldren was tasked with bringing home a unique power, Riven was the first of that description
This revelation just means that Taranis was among those that came to Mara afterwards
For me though, why did Mara imprison Riven, when she could've chosen Taranis as her secret Ahamkara, Taranis gave true wishes which would've removed the need to make the wishing wall
Riven's cutscene suggests that this whole time, most of the Ahamkara have been causing a negative effect along with whatever wish they grant by choice. Is there any other lore talking about this?
Not sure about specific lore BUT I do know that the Ahamkara choosing to create negative effects with their wishes is more of a survival adaptation than simple choice to be evil. The story has told us (and there is more lore talking about this) that Ahamkara feed on the “difference between what is desired and what is,” so it makes sense that a creature able to grant wishes would twist them in order to have more “food.” This is why Riven was so attracted to Teranus- he rose above this part of their nature and granted wishes without twisting them; he probably suffered from this. I equate it to a single parent who can barely afford food and yet, because they love their kids, forego meals so that they can give more food to their children. Technically a choice, but a difficult one because it defies the parents’ evolutionary nature and is rooted solely in love.
yep, look for anything relating to the Great Hunt. we didn't kill them off for funsies.
@@rymac77 That makes sense. I wonder how Taranis was able to survive though without being sustained by wish feeding.
Ahamkara feed of the difference between what is desired and what is, as in the difference between what the wisher wants and what the wish ends up being, it’s like a monkeys paw, and is almost always negative
@@narayan887he definitely was sustained by it, but he was likely a lot less efficient with making his own food. Which is pretty fascinating.
Jesus christ if they shoehorn a relationship between Crow and his homie 🙄
yeah if this is their idea of winning players back good luck I suppose
i hope not because the romance writing of bungie is cringe AF.
“Gee I sure hope they don’t do this thing I can see they’re going to do” you sound silly. If you can see the subtext even when you don’t want it to be there, what are you mad about?
The fact that they gave Riven a male mate, is a miracle in itself
@@Bustuhh whine more
I wonder if taking a similar shape is the Wish Dragon version of mirroring or a mating ritual?
Another solid video, Keep up the great content and I'll keep watching.
I love Riven being fleshed out this season! I think there would've been more build for the Raid had we known this history prior.
Ik it will never happen but imagine being able to do the finale shape seeing cayde gain with multiple exotic armor this is the big war😂😂, stepping out the portal with knuck radar, oathkeeper, ophida, and stompee/ lucky pants 🤌🏾🤌🏾 the drip
Always love a new Myelin Destiny 2 lore video. all his content is top.
And of course they made another character part of the LGBTQ plus movement at this point, is there any character besides zavala that aren't woke tokens for bungee the panda about.
They killed zavala :(
am i missing something, whose gay now, if Crow then im calling bullshit
@@MrVidman14listen to the way Petra talks about Crow and Jolyon, and the embarassed way he reacts. it sounds suggestive to a lot of people.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx does he, he sounds like someone who lost his memory and only recently remembered someone that he used to know
@@MrVidman14They haven't made him yet, but with their track record. Old friend that you used to spend a lot of time with is a gay partner now. Helen destiny 1. It wasn't even hinted that Osiris and Saint really even knew each other. Just that saint you got a shotgun from Osiris. And that is literally there extent of their interaction. Then early destiny 2. Their friends and saint goes looking for Osiris after he disappears. Then all of a sudden there lovers . That's what they're doing here now again. Honestly, I would have made him the secret lover of Petra venge and that's why she was so angry at him because she felt personally betrayed.
I'm a simple man: I see a Myelin D2 lore video, I do the clicky.
Mara has a long term scheme to win her brother back, to have (essentially) a Lightbearer under her control. What better avenue than the restoration of a once inseparable friendship. Petra, when all is said and done serves her Queen's interests. Crow needs to bear that in mind when accepting 'advice' from her.
Actually, I think Mara is done with that. The Guardians will be her allies because her brother is one of their leaders and she is working on amending her relationship with him. If anything, I think Crow/Uldren being separated from Mara and have some distance from her has done wonders for him and for her. Of course death is also a factor as well, but I think the two of them have done some growing as individuals.
@@urazz7739I agree, the tone of how Mara speaks, kinda shows how she's changing, letting her guard down and becoming softer, more trusting.
Crow has already made it clear he isn't interested in going back, he worked hard to be accepted by the vanguard (still being sneered)
Lore states however that a friend of Mara, had a dream that included Uldren being at the scene in which Mara attacked a pyramid and ripped it in half (Uldren being at the scene in the dream doesn't mean he's Uldren again, it just means the people of the dreaming city wouldnt know Uldren would die, and become Crow)
The dream wasn't taken seriously, but general lore of destiny says such dreams are a vision of the future
Sounds like Crow and Jolyon are more than friends and they're about to pull a Saint-14 / Osiris on us.
I hope not 😭I fw Crow
That would be gay as fuck.
They gonna make crow gay as well 😂
Can we please just have close hetero male friendship?! It’s like writers these days forget not everyone in a relationship needs to fuck and have rings
@@thomaspurol9322it’s just a bunch of shitty writers from tumblr that Bungo hired for their shit fan fiction that write the human characters I swear to god.
Petra could have just known that Crow doesn't have many friends. He's somewhat reconciled with Mara, might as well reach out to other Awoken.
Taranis, the exception that proves the rule... if we didn't already meet Hefnd.
if its so massive...why do i not care anymore?
Yet you clicked on the video? That makes no sense.
@@Techhunter_Talon makes plenty of sense its called a reaction. you can not care and voice your complaint about it
Been waiting for this one thx Myelin
So you know how the season leading up to the big expansion is usually the strongest of the year and a total banger?
Yeah, Wish ain't one of those.
What are we even doing telling love stories between dead ahakmara that have no relevance to the story whatsoever?
The big plot twist of *who sent the eggs away* wasn't a plot from within Maras court or another Savathuun trick, it was... drumroll please: Rivens Dead Boyfriend!
Whoopdifuckindoo
What are we doing with our lives oh my fuck
I agree with you about the story lately. I enjoyed the exotic mission and learning a tad bit more about the ahamkara. Idk if the exotic is "meta" but i like it 😂 sidenote, ill always love the background music you use for these videos.
Given how big they are, does the earth literally move when they rut?
Dammit man, gonna miss you on DCP. One of my favorite parts to the podcast. Good luck with the new plans and hope you rejoin them
Ahamkara looking all like riven is very disappointing and a missed opportunity...AGAIN
They’re really are taking this story in non sensical directions. The am surprised people still find the “lore” compelling. They just keep rewriting old themes in new ways
If Netflix thinks your device has a vpn you can’t watch anything other than the Netflix originals which sucks
Will the price for wishing Cayde-6 back be that Jolyon will become Crow's enemy??
Strand bow from ahamkara hunt when we discovered Strand just yesterday XDDDD
Vex storylines are so weak. They learn somrthing new. How did they do it? "Oh they simulated something". Makes zero sense.
what we learned - without some one wishing anything, ahamkhara are weak, useless, without any power. How did they even live this long
Now this is the sort of wholesome romantic smut I tuned in for. /s
Was wondering how I missed this but then remembered I haven’t done the exotic mission.
Taranis might be the first character I've really resonated with. A love that powerful is always tear-jerking.
I just dont like the story because it seems like yet another retcon of the Black Garden story.
My favourite piece of advice . I'll try anything twice .
The situation between Riven and her former mate is way too relevant to my life right now.
Holy shit my man got a Netflix sponsor, that gotta be biggggg buck
They don’t look like wish dragons, they look like wish cats
I hope we don't have another non canonical gay couple in this ...
So if you're on the mobile daily, would you really think about games on your phone while on vacation ..What kind of "vacation" we talking about?
I do a lot of stay-cations. Western AUstralia is real big with some lovely coast lines. Usually rent a house, have a weekend getaway. Play some games before i go to sleep. That kind of thing.
I though myelin was retired from destiny 😮
😆the call out to Cross to see if it's cool/meta was hilarious
Hope to see Destiny show on Netflix at some point. Cmon, Sony.
I’m not that deep into lore but I always thought savathun was the one to take riven. Idk if this is supposed to be an important revelation or not
She never had the power to take personally… oryx had that power
surprised they didn't make riven a lesbian.
Love that rocket launcher. Able to shoot 4 rockets and it reloads over time with the right perks.
Taranis! Loved the input good sir! Keep it up and never change
Now we know why Riven is salty all the time 😢
Some D2 writer is a fan of Death Note 😂
Great vid Matt! Merry Christmas mate
I wish I could heal in palworld
tyranisaurus
what Rocket launcher are you using in the gameplay here?
Looks like hezen vengeance. Vog launcher.
Taranis gives me Paarthurnax vibes
How lol
The down under goat
More like Dragon Daddy 😂
Holy shit Netflix is sponsoring you now?? That's awesome dude!
Riven's massive reveal!
The ahamkara that Shax and Saladin were hunting looks very different.
got hair and a very bony face
I still don’t get why ahamkara skulls seem so inconsistent throughout Destiny. The skull on Young Ahamkara’s Spine doesn’t look like the Skull of Dire Ahamkara, the ahamkara skull hanging over where Lord Shaxx stands; and none of those skulls look like they would fit into place if you compared them to how Riven’s head looks. I guess I’ll keep assuming there’s different species of ahamkara or something.
because they can shapeshift, just because they have a base form doesn't mean they died in that base form, and we have no proof that they revert back to their original form upon death. So thus the skulls would look different.
Taranis
Ta ta ta ta Taranis
Over all it was neat and yeah characters out of the blue does seem a bit too easy but they are trying to build out the dragon lore here.
Bow is fun, looking forward the catalysts to give it more utility.
Thanks Matt!!!
Man I hope not
I'm well pleased with this. Good job Bungo.
Thanks Papa!
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we will never as human as Taranis was... love some sad stories bungo.
Chad
So then what are the buffs we stand in if it was like their mating ground?
Darth Taranis 😉
I kinda enjoyed it story of riven and her mates life before the great hunt.
Just cuz you hosted me with the way you said “cool”
:')
Any good weapons this season that are worth getting the pass
Anything in this game we turn into a weapon 😅
really bro a netflix sponsor.
yes bro. Let me get that bag so i can pay me bills
atleast its not google stadia i guess, still fuck netflix.
Shoutout to the homie Taranis🗣🗣💪💪
So many closeted people in the comments 😂. They thought their favorite game could help them reject those thoughts, but now they're mad even Destiny makes them question themselves lmaooo
Fr fr. “I’m fine with gays but why do I have to look at them?”
Mofos never had a friend of the same sex 😂
Thank you kind sir.
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