I keep FORGETTING to say this verbally in the video BUT ... for this "season5" where i start and go through the reworked spots , i am using a consistent drop rate of YellowLS + Kama Blessing + 50% DROP EVENT (replaced with 50% tent drop buff after the event ended) , which is the case here too , money/h will be slightly lower without the drop event/arsha/tent buff active See u with Calph Elvia ... maybe o/
Actually insane that you're still making these videos. I remember watching you maybe 4-5 years ago when you were doing all of the exp per hour videos. I took a 4 year break... gonna come back and get busy next season. Funny how much effort I made back then can be negated in like 1 week in season haha
I love the fact that there are more spots other than orcs nowdays. This means i can grind a lot of spots, knowing it wont be shit money/h. Also the better orcs rotation are sometimes not even contested. Calpheon Elvia is coming tomorrow which hopefully means even more good spots which means even less dfs. This is good.
@@Duodecil Even Polly seems to be on par with some of the reworked Valencia spots now, namely Nagas and Fogans, since its trash now has almost 5 times its original/previous value while having the same weight and RNG drop amount. Doing some testings oh my own there with season Drakania, since she needs those skill points badly, but it looks like you could do worse for a yellow LS spot. Probably not ideal for agris (plus blue LS), though, as its agris/h seems a good deal higher than in the aforementioned Valencia spots. On top of that, it has its own secret Marni room instance. I've yet to try it because Orcs, but at least it seems to be at one if its best rotations.
Manshaums was my favorite spot back when i started the game. As a Musa player it is very chill to grind there. I personally pull around 16k+ with yellow ls on succesion. Overall good for caphras and with the New vodo doll change this will be a lot better now.
@@rambot1669 i wonder what's your trick, since your pets become the limiting factor, i got 5 tier 4, chris got a lot less loot then me and somehow that's below average? pls share your knowledge, I'm sure chris would also like to know how most people get so much more then him?
Months of not playing and I didn't know about this Caphras spot portion in one of the earlier patch notes. With that said, Thornwood used to be my favorite of the two for being far less contested. Not being an infinite pot spot definitely helped it there. At least now I have more motivation for retuning to Manshaums, both the Caphras and another enemy type dropping the full piece of the pot.
i'm doing like 6k trash/hr and have gotten ONE narc after like 20k kills on my awake nova with t3/t4 pets and yellow loot scroll. wtf am i doing wrong? is it because i'm not in some special realm? i tried clicking "enter" and it didnt do anything.
Sometimes I grind there and don't get any piece... what I'm doing wrong? I rarelly get the nakk acc to drop too... Always using the yellow scroll, the pet fox T4, Sometimes I use the 10 - 20% buffs from events and even doing all this I don't drop anything man... I don't understand why.
Something very interesting is that when doing Forest Ronaros on Marni's Realm, the mob density is higher. Tested it last night and could clearly see a difference. Wonder if that's the case with other spots too
@@cuakman It's basically your own realm. You can use it 1 hour and 5 min each day and it lets you grind the most popular grind spots without interruption from other players. You only have that hour each day, and it doesn't stack if you don't use it. It's really awesome for contested spots since you can actually grind in peace
@@Seriksy Thanks a lot bud, last time i left was because all the dfs stupidity that was happening at the time. Hated it, even if you win the dfs every 15 mins somebody came to dfs in popular spots and ended up taking your spot. I guess this helps my schedule so i can grind after work a bit.
@@cuakman Indeed. Often I can't grind more than 1 hour a day so this is really nice. Besides now that they have buffed Kama regions like they did with Valencia and buffed loot items, the player base is more spread out. I can often do Bloody Monastery now on Arsha without dfs
understandable , i would also not wanna grind it tbh , i will come back here eventually for my pot piece but once that is done i move on , especially since from what i can tell with how many mobs u need , there will be 1 rotation (1 person) per server only , which is ugh
With a season valk, would the farming still be as efficient? thought about tagging a valk just to help farm for my sage :kekw:. What is the two buttons ppl press to farm?
The potion parts drop from the small dudes too and has for quite awhile. I found that all the potion guides were completely wrong about only 1 or 2 specific mobs dropping parts.
Navarn is pain! It was the only damn spot I didn't get a full ancient drop. For me the most reliable mobs were Elephants. I did 10 hours split up between Ferricas and Feather Wolves for kicks and got 4 pitty pieces total. I also highly suggest doing a mastery swap. Kill the eles in your normal gear, then use a Morco's bag to swap to a full set of mastery gear (I kept wearing 2 Manos earrings since a full set of gear can't fit in the bag). Just make sure you put your weapon up before you start spamming the Morco's bag to swap or it just won't swap. Or even click the gear yourself to swap, but the mastery makes a world of difference. I bought full TRI Manos accessories, made TET Gathering clothes and had a TET Manos knife. When a pity piece did proc it was almost always a x2 drop because of the mastery proc. The hours I tried without the mastery swap I almost never got a x2 proc. Took me about 50-70 hours to get all 100 pieces.
Voodoo dolls can be considering as actual money soon, global lab changes voodoo doll become party scroll and can be summon up to lvl 5 exactly as relics
Damn the game looks really clean and fun now. I quit 2 years ago because I slowly started finding the game boring just spending hours grinding and thought can do other things instead. But seeing this now I wanna see the game again but I’m worried I’m just gonna find the game boring for the same reason. Do you guys have advice of what I should do when I start again? 2 years ago, what I did was I pretty much just became a full time boat trader thing cause I love boars but at the time I was making money with the main objective of gaining AP. but I feel like that’s what made me bored of the game. Should I sell al my gear and be a full time (part time) boat trader and aim for a big boat? Any suggestions would be awesome :)
My advice would be, don't aim to be the top this or that, explore, do things, find that thing that make you feel fun and enjoy the game. It's a game champ, not a race, have fun!
change to zerker if you only want the "cheesy" fast grind zerker is faster and need less ap to do so. for valk, the 2 combo is rmb+spacebar, you click and hold rmb, and without releasing you click and hold spacebar.
@@7Vytor7 You need quite a decent AP for valk to work. For example, i got 277 but its quite annoying grinding centaurs, but really chill on Sulfur. With season gear i guess you'll be fine on spots lime Pollys, Red Wolves, Fogans, Nagas, Crescents and Cadrys
Planning to , but for now i started Ronaros/Polly already so those first , then i will most likely sprinkle inbetween 1 more Calph Elvia spot ... THEN i will visit miru xD
Me getting 8k trash on yellow because Shai Skills hitboxes only hit 1/4 of the pack and using her attack speed buffs just makes you run out of stamina in 2 seconds 🙃
Maaaah :/ i only did 327,6 M On Pollys i average 400.1 M Since i one hit at pollys and its smooth to run from pack to pack, it feels more relaxing and less chaotic. Seems like i wont grind anything else :P Valk, 274/267/310 Tet BS main, Pen Kutum, 4xT4, 1xT5 Pet, T10 note, 5% drop Pet, Yellow LS.
New meta is to play a fast class and do outdated zones now. No point even improving your gear anymore. Why risk crystals @ Calpheon lol, the income average there reported is not much better or worth it outside of high RNG session. Even @ 300ap+, a place like Gyfin isn't worth the stress.
have u heard of a game called "Incryption" , Markiplier played it a few months ago too I just recalled the "too fast ... too soon" , part and i was like , sure , idk what to name this so that works xD
Can say on console im doing 18.3k trash n hour with musa on gold with all t4 pets at 286ap and at that makes me think its one of the best spots on console atm
@@theodevine16 yet on console we have alot of people that can compete gear wise with pc players, by that i mean we already have people with pen debo and obliterating fallen god
That's dumb , every single item that drops SHOULD be factored in otherwise u can't give spots a proper value . If u dont sell caphras and keep them it means u don't BUY them , aka caphras u obtain by grinding if KEPT are worth even more cuz then u don't apply market tax on them , so the spot would be worth even more in that case . I would argue with u that why don't I just go and grind somewhere like centaurs , make 1 billion per hour , then BUY caphras from the market with that , I would be neting more caphras/h that way , so yeah even if u don't sell caphras they should be valued
@@Duodecil you didn't explain at all why you're factoring silver/hr from something youre not selling for silver though. I mean, sure a collective amount is nice, but again if a spot gives you 500m/hr and 400 comes from caphras that you're using, did you really make 500m that hour? Lol. Because people are absolutely grinding cent and using the money to buy caphs. The _only_ reason they go anywhere else is because of how crowded it is. But after pen armor all your caphs are going to gear regardless. Just saying. Also, your "save on market value" is a moot point, since caphs would only be worth 85% once sold on cm. Caph value is more "money saved" not really "money earned". Personally I would make 2 totals, with and without caphs to get a more realistic value of how much spending money you have, but if you think the logic is "dumb" then by all means, I'll just subtract 120m+ from your values to get abetter idea myself
Do as u wish , at this point I cant explain it any clearer to u , if u dont understand then idc to push the topic any further By your logic please by all means value NOTHING but the trash loot since applying your logic every single other item can be used in some way so I guess the only value spots have is trash loot alone mhmmm Caphras are no special item that deserve special treatment.
@@Duodecil we just see it differently. I say value the things you plan to sell. Simple. If you have a car that you're not going to sell it doesn't matter if it's worth a million dollars. Things only have value when you sell them. If you're not selling caphras you're not "making" money. Blackstone's and trash loot and acc are all valuable things people can sell but you don't factor it in money "made" if you're not selling it.
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I keep FORGETTING to say this verbally in the video BUT ... for this "season5" where i start and go through the reworked spots , i am using a consistent drop rate of YellowLS + Kama Blessing + 50% DROP EVENT (replaced with 50% tent drop buff after the event ended) , which is the case here too , money/h will be slightly lower without the drop event/arsha/tent buff active
See u with Calph Elvia ... maybe o/
Actually insane that you're still making these videos. I remember watching you maybe 4-5 years ago when you were doing all of the exp per hour videos. I took a 4 year break... gonna come back and get busy next season. Funny how much effort I made back then can be negated in like 1 week in season haha
I love the fact that there are more spots other than orcs nowdays. This means i can grind a lot of spots, knowing it wont be shit money/h.
Also the better orcs rotation are sometimes not even contested. Calpheon Elvia is coming tomorrow which hopefully means even more good spots which means even less dfs. This is good.
i love that now i can stop saying "ofc i have no gear and no money if keep grinding these trash spots with no income" xD
@@Duodecil Even Polly seems to be on par with some of the reworked Valencia spots now, namely Nagas and Fogans, since its trash now has almost 5 times its original/previous value while having the same weight and RNG drop amount. Doing some testings oh my own there with season Drakania, since she needs those skill points badly, but it looks like you could do worse for a yellow LS spot. Probably not ideal for agris (plus blue LS), though, as its agris/h seems a good deal higher than in the aforementioned Valencia spots.
On top of that, it has its own secret Marni room instance. I've yet to try it because Orcs, but at least it seems to be at one if its best rotations.
@@Tsuchiryu I pulled 450 mill with no Agris but a yellow ls as a succ mystique. But for that you need full t4 pets. Otherwise it's not good xd
I haven't played BDO in a long time but those videos are still nice to watch
It do be like that
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Just sayin I love your content, and your severe A.D.D. when it comes to gathering data for us plebs. Thanks Duo
Manshaums was my favorite spot back when i started the game. As a Musa player it is very chill to grind there. I personally pull around 16k+ with yellow ls on succesion. Overall good for caphras and with the New vodo doll change this will be a lot better now.
Watching this video makes me want to go back to BDO just to grind again, especially since Manshaums used to be my favourite area to farm
You doin very good job sir, thank you ;) keep it comin ;)
I started pot grinding there, did 2 hours so far, musa awa, agris with yellow scroll, same gear as you pretty much, 20k thrash both time
Unfortunately 20k trash loot isnt that good thats below average
@@rambot1669 i wonder what's your trick, since your pets become the limiting factor, i got 5 tier 4, chris got a lot less loot then me and somehow that's below average? pls share your knowledge, I'm sure chris would also like to know how most people get so much more then him?
Months of not playing and I didn't know about this Caphras spot portion in one of the earlier patch notes. With that said, Thornwood used to be my favorite of the two for being far less contested. Not being an infinite pot spot definitely helped it there.
At least now I have more motivation for retuning to Manshaums, both the Caphras and another enemy type dropping the full piece of the pot.
Another big work! Thanks!
whats your outfit for valk at 7:50 cant find it in pearl shop
two years ago it took me 220 hours for crimson tear, ah good times...
yeah , the first thing that popped in my mind was rapolas suffering at manshaums , rip xD
i'm doing like 6k trash/hr and have gotten ONE narc after like 20k kills on my awake nova with t3/t4 pets and yellow loot scroll. wtf am i doing wrong? is it because i'm not in some special realm? i tried clicking "enter" and it didnt do anything.
Sometimes I grind there and don't get any piece... what I'm doing wrong? I rarelly get the nakk acc to drop too... Always using the yellow scroll, the pet fox T4, Sometimes I use the 10 - 20% buffs from events and even doing all this I don't drop anything man... I don't understand why.
Something very interesting is that when doing Forest Ronaros on Marni's Realm, the mob density is higher. Tested it last night and could clearly see a difference. Wonder if that's the case with other spots too
interesting
as far as i can recall it isnt the case for manshaums
Im sorry for the ignorance, what is marni's Realm, i've been out since december last year.
@@cuakman It's basically your own realm. You can use it 1 hour and 5 min each day and it lets you grind the most popular grind spots without interruption from other players. You only have that hour each day, and it doesn't stack if you don't use it. It's really awesome for contested spots since you can actually grind in peace
@@Seriksy Thanks a lot bud, last time i left was because all the dfs stupidity that was happening at the time. Hated it, even if you win the dfs every 15 mins somebody came to dfs in popular spots and ended up taking your spot. I guess this helps my schedule so i can grind after work a bit.
@@cuakman Indeed. Often I can't grind more than 1 hour a day so this is really nice. Besides now that they have buffed Kama regions like they did with Valencia and buffed loot items, the player base is more spread out. I can often do Bloody Monastery now on Arsha without dfs
Grinded this goddamn place for over 500 hours. Never going back here.
understandable , i would also not wanna grind it tbh , i will come back here eventually for my pot piece but once that is done i move on , especially since from what i can tell with how many mobs u need , there will be 1 rotation (1 person) per server only , which is ugh
did u redo mirnok ruins or trees yet? im looking forward to it.. ppl saying its top tier now
I get around 18-20k trash a hour solo at trees with a 3 tree rotation and hitting respawn issues
Yellow LS+ agris
With a season valk, would the farming still be as efficient? thought about tagging a valk just to help farm for my sage :kekw:. What is the two buttons ppl press to farm?
The potion parts drop from the small dudes too and has for quite awhile. I found that all the potion guides were completely wrong about only 1 or 2 specific mobs dropping parts.
If you mean the pity piece then yes all can drop, but for the whole piece then its only 1-2 specific.
If you REALLY wanna be blown away, try out night time sherek with gold and agris. You won’t regret it.(bring energy pots and prepare your rbf daily)
hey man.. dont tell people
wtf man dont tell the secret bro
Should I try this spot instead of navarn steppe? I got 3 hrs with 0 pity piece :(
Even if you get the piece from Narcs, you still have to go to Navarn for its Pot piece if you want the Mana Pot.
Navarn is pain! It was the only damn spot I didn't get a full ancient drop. For me the most reliable mobs were Elephants. I did 10 hours split up between Ferricas and Feather Wolves for kicks and got 4 pitty pieces total. I also highly suggest doing a mastery swap. Kill the eles in your normal gear, then use a Morco's bag to swap to a full set of mastery gear (I kept wearing 2 Manos earrings since a full set of gear can't fit in the bag). Just make sure you put your weapon up before you start spamming the Morco's bag to swap or it just won't swap. Or even click the gear yourself to swap, but the mastery makes a world of difference.
I bought full TRI Manos accessories, made TET Gathering clothes and had a TET Manos knife. When a pity piece did proc it was almost always a x2 drop because of the mastery proc. The hours I tried without the mastery swap I almost never got a x2 proc. Took me about 50-70 hours to get all 100 pieces.
Voodoo dolls can be considering as actual money soon, global lab changes voodoo doll become party scroll and can be summon up to lvl 5 exactly as relics
yeah im debating if i should buy some now while on min price xD
@@Duodecil well u know as a responsible youtuber u have to do at least 100 of them right?
It'll still suck just like relics :) probably
@@pinie111 but relics dont suck, good cheap memory
Voodoo dolls still suck. Someone did 100 of them and profited like few mil per 5 dolls . You would be far better off grinding or life skilling.
is 600 loot scrolls alot? ive used around 200 scrolls in my time
sorry for asking, how do you do/see average grind stats per spot on garmoth?
Damn the game looks really clean and fun now. I quit 2 years ago because I slowly started finding the game boring just spending hours grinding and thought can do other things instead. But seeing this now I wanna see the game again but I’m worried I’m just gonna find the game boring for the same reason. Do you guys have advice of what I should do when I start again? 2 years ago, what I did was I pretty much just became a full time boat trader thing cause I love boars but at the time I was making money with the main objective of gaining AP. but I feel like that’s what made me bored of the game. Should I sell al my gear and be a full time (part time) boat trader and aim for a big boat? Any suggestions would be awesome :)
My advice would be, don't aim to be the top this or that, explore, do things, find that thing that make you feel fun and enjoy the game.
It's a game champ, not a race, have fun!
bro whats the point in elvia anymore?!
Yea, you will make me change my season class to a valk with the fulgar thing, which are the two buttons that you use to make that cheated grind?
change to zerker if you only want the "cheesy" fast grind
zerker is faster and need less ap to do so.
for valk, the 2 combo is rmb+spacebar, you click and hold rmb, and without releasing you click and hold spacebar.
@@VidaDeSims the zerk is two buttons too?
@@7Vytor7 You need quite a decent AP for valk to work. For example, i got 277 but its quite annoying grinding centaurs, but really chill on Sulfur. With season gear i guess you'll be fine on spots lime Pollys, Red Wolves, Fogans, Nagas, Crescents and Cadrys
@@Kolcci + this, valk strat only works if you got good gear.
Could I grind here with a 250ap mystic, centaurs is just horrible since everyone’s using valk there :(
what is better centaur or manshaum?
blue ls no agris
how can you get 350dp from only tet blackstar set?
Is this possible on a seasonal valk. I realize it'll be less efficient but is it doable
Yo man love ur vids. Can u make mirumok plz? It’s busted money per hour
Planning to , but for now i started Ronaros/Polly already so those first , then i will most likely sprinkle inbetween 1 more Calph Elvia spot ... THEN i will visit miru xD
1:13 why you do this to me my man xD
sacrifices must be made :)
those numbers are base from a lvl10 node?
don't stop the train ! XDDD
i got narc crimson tear today.. 20h total with 15 pity :)
its sad that i cant come close to this clear speed with my guardian :(
Please do aakman next, after the update of agris usage ^_^
Ty
Me getting 8k trash on yellow because Shai Skills hitboxes only hit 1/4 of the pack and using her attack speed buffs just makes you run out of stamina in 2 seconds 🙃
awesomesauce
do you not run out of stamina?
Nope , u can briefly let go of space to do 2 or 3 RMB hits , that way u never run out of stamina , or sprinkle in some other fillers like F and W+RMB
@@Duodecil I heard awaken nova pre good too
wohoo 9 min ago...i swear im not stalking
press X to doubt o.o
Sus
Noooooooooo . Now manshaums is going to be ransacked 😭😭😭
let's hope ppl are more interested in calpheon elvia xD
is this chris poly? the famous one?
🙂good actitude
Maaaah :/ i only did 327,6 M
On Pollys i average 400.1 M
Since i one hit at pollys and its smooth to run from pack to pack, it feels more relaxing and less chaotic.
Seems like i wont grind anything else :P
Valk, 274/267/310 Tet BS main, Pen Kutum,
4xT4, 1xT5 Pet,
T10 note, 5% drop Pet, Yellow LS.
I hope you're buying a duo fallen god with all that silver piled up. Calpheon Elvia is gonna slap you otherwise
Mirumok when
25 pittys in4 hours... almost 2 narcs per hour? bro u carried af
New meta is to play a fast class and do outdated zones now. No point even improving your gear anymore. Why risk crystals @ Calpheon lol, the income average there reported is not much better or worth it outside of high RNG session. Even @ 300ap+, a place like Gyfin isn't worth the stress.
At gyfin I average 700+mil so it is def worth for me to go to gyfin
@@hydroptic2243 but any zerker pull 900+mil at centaurs, so...
@@hydroptic2243 I pull 750m average on centaurs
sussy title
have u heard of a game called "Incryption" , Markiplier played it a few months ago too
I just recalled the "too fast ... too soon" , part and i was like , sure , idk what to name this so that works xD
@@Duodecil heard of it but wasn't too interested cause it's a card game right?
another one Here is My Mandatory Comment
Can say on console im doing 18.3k trash n hour with musa on gold with all t4 pets at 286ap and at that makes me think its one of the best spots on console atm
shame it means nothing because its console...
@@theodevine16 yet on console we have alot of people that can compete gear wise with pc players, by that i mean we already have people with pen debo and obliterating fallen god
Wish people would stop factoring caphras into their sil/hr. No one should be selling caphs unless you're obscenely high gs
That's dumb , every single item that drops SHOULD be factored in otherwise u can't give spots a proper value .
If u dont sell caphras and keep them it means u don't BUY them , aka caphras u obtain by grinding if KEPT are worth even more cuz then u don't apply market tax on them , so the spot would be worth even more in that case .
I would argue with u that why don't I just go and grind somewhere like centaurs , make 1 billion per hour , then BUY caphras from the market with that , I would be neting more caphras/h that way , so yeah even if u don't sell caphras they should be valued
@@Duodecil you didn't explain at all why you're factoring silver/hr from something youre not selling for silver though. I mean, sure a collective amount is nice, but again if a spot gives you 500m/hr and 400 comes from caphras that you're using, did you really make 500m that hour? Lol. Because people are absolutely grinding cent and using the money to buy caphs. The _only_ reason they go anywhere else is because of how crowded it is. But after pen armor all your caphs are going to gear regardless. Just saying.
Also, your "save on market value" is a moot point, since caphs would only be worth 85% once sold on cm. Caph value is more "money saved" not really "money earned". Personally I would make 2 totals, with and without caphs to get a more realistic value of how much spending money you have, but if you think the logic is "dumb" then by all means, I'll just subtract 120m+ from your values to get abetter idea myself
Do as u wish , at this point I cant explain it any clearer to u , if u dont understand then idc to push the topic any further
By your logic please by all means value NOTHING but the trash loot since applying your logic every single other item can be used in some way so I guess the only value spots have is trash loot alone mhmmm
Caphras are no special item that deserve special treatment.
@@Duodecil we just see it differently. I say value the things you plan to sell. Simple. If you have a car that you're not going to sell it doesn't matter if it's worth a million dollars. Things only have value when you sell them. If you're not selling caphras you're not "making" money. Blackstone's and trash loot and acc are all valuable things people can sell but you don't factor it in money "made" if you're not selling it.
how berseker wtf 1hour 30k trash
first
Looks like Valk and not the spot needs a nerf.
nah nah nah , other classes are more broken , valk is fiiiiiine :3
Valk is fine, there are way better ones actually. Nova AWK, Zerker Succ, Awk Musah, Succ Tamer are an example of better classes for fast grinding