A video showing off how to Install a black component, in a black helmet, wearing a black t-shirt, in front of a black backdrop, on a black table. Might as well have shut the lights off!
An honest and not mean to be "critical" point, it would have been nice to use a white table and a white shirt so that the black device components and helmet stuff would stand out a bit better. It seems to get lost and can't really see much of it very well. Just a thought for the future. (Great video though, very helpful)
I would strongly recommend you change the background colour and your TShirt colour to something light or white. It's very difficult to see motorcycle accessories on a black background (most of them are black).
Thanks for the comment! The Cardo should fit fine in the Airflite. Though the bottom lip is on the wider side, there are speaker cutouts that will make things a bit easier. How have you found the Airflite so far?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for the reply! I have found the Airflite to be quite good so far. The looks and price really did it for me. However it is my first helmet, so I can't compare it to anything else.
Thanks for the question! For the Neotec 2 the bold unit would be better in this case due to the positioning of the system's different parts. However, both offer the same features and both will fit, so it comes down to personal preference
Unfortunately, you're not alone in this issue since some people have also found a problem with the speakers. The best thing to do is to double check the wires to ensure that they're wired correctly and that they don't have any faults. Otherwise, it may also help to try contacting Cardo directly. Besides the volume issue, how have you found the Packtalk Slim so far?
might help in the future if you don't have your installer wearing a black shirt on a black table while installing a black cardo system. . . .can barely see anything
Thanks for the question! Both should generally be fine on the Airoh Rev 19 since you'll have plenty of space to mount the systems. However, considering the chin bar will be moving, the Slim may be a little more convenient since it will sit a bit more out of the way and have a smaller profile
Guess what still waiting on my new lid 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 customs cleared it on Monday the 16 but no tracking info or updates from USPS since that day 🕶🕶🕶I sincerely hope it was not stolen or disappear like my 2018 Mugello where I had to get a replacement for which I am very very thankful to 🏆 helmets ⛑ 👏for sending me a replacement
Champion Helmets Sounds great 👍 I will keep you guys posted I am hoping by Friday to either see it in my hands or see an update from USPS I called customer service & was told same info as their web site USPS : In-Transit July 16, 2019 at 5:18 am Inbound Out of Customs DHL Status on Mo, 15.07.2019 23:18 hours: The shipment has cleared customs in the destination country.
Champion Helmets Just an update no changes for the tracking of the winter test helmet I am seriously pissed about USPS service It seems to me this package vanished just like the Mugello did I hope you guys add insurance on these Packages before shipping them so at least you can retrieve some funds back from DHL if they are not delivered. I called customs in New York & was told the package was released to USPS NY on the 16th & I have to wait as it might take up to 30 days to reach me which is absurd . I asked if there is a phone number I can call to check status I was told no . I am very skeptical as there is no tracking updates or scans of the bar code since the 16th . So it was not picked up from Customs yet because normally once a package leaves one area or department along its shipping route it has to get scanned , it’s not in the system yet or simply vanished only time will tell
Do you have any idea if the Packtalk Slim would fit my Shark Spartan Carbon helmet? Also, can the unit connect to bluetooth headphones or are you limited to using wired headphones/earplugs?
The Cardo Packtalk Slim should be able to fit in the Spartan Carbon. The main hurdle to keep in mind is that fitting the battery pack may be more challenging since the Spartan Carbon has reserved the space for the Sharktooth Prime Intercom system. As far as speakers, you can use your choice, as long as they are wired and use a standard 3.5mm audio jack. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
Is it possible to install Cardo Packtalk Slim in a Shoei NXR2? I have a successful installation on the NXR1 but still wondering if it will be as easy on the NXR2.
Can the Cardo Packtalk SLIM also be attached to the new HJC carbon helmets (RPHA 11 carbon, 70 carbon, 90S carbon) even though these helmets are prepared for SENA?
Hey there! You may have to move the cheek pads out of the way slightly to get the cables in and then try to button the cheek pad back in. Since there aren't any grooves for the wires, you may have to get a little creative with it. But, if you're still have trouble, feel free to send us an email (www.championhelmets.com/en/service/) with some pictures and we'll do our best to help you out
I read in comments below that someone asked about the compatibility with Schuberth C4 Basic helmet. You explained it in regards to speakers and microphone, but my question is, will the mount for the main unit fit the bottom of this helmet? It has very broad plastic edge there and I'm afraid the clip mount won't fit (will be too narrow). Please advise.
Hey there! Since the Shark Race-R Pro GP has space for installing the Sharktooth Prime, and Cardo systems are meant to fit almost any helmet, it should be compatible with the Shark helmet even with a bit of squeezing here and there
OK they call it slim, but now you have to clip 2 devices on your helmet. that is rather a con than a pro. it looks better. what er the other pro's against the bold? (not talking about the price)
Hey there! The main pros of the Slim are Cardo have updated the controls to make the system interface simpler and the system is smaller and more aerodynamic. The cons of the Slim are that it has a slightly shorter range than the Bold and you also have the additional battery pack insert. Other than this the specs should be about the same between the two systems. Which system are you currently leaning towards?
Your Cardo Palktalk shoud be able to fit in the Schuberth C4. The C4's microphone is placed at the top of the helmet so you shouldn't have any trouble there. Though the speakers are not easily removable, you should be able to squeeze the Cardo in, since the cutouts are still fairly low in the helmet's EPS at about where your ears would be. Otherwise, the Schuberth C4 Pro should also fit the Cardo, since the speakers were further slimmed down and the cutouts made deeper
@@Championhelmets I do. and have the same question. Trickier for peeps like me in India where Cardo isn't selling yet, to have it shipped and realise it doesn't fit.
Because of the vent being so close against the back of the helmet, it will be very difficult to add the battery. The same situation goes for underneath the neck roll, which means the Slim will generally be a challenge to mount. In this case, the Packtalk Bold may be a better option. Though it is bulkier, it is self-contained, which makes mounting much easier. What do you think of the Cardo system?
@@Championhelmets I've never used a Cardo. I've been using a Sena SMH-10 for the past 10+ years, and I've been wanting to move to something less bulky, hoping it would create less wind noise. I've heard very good things about the Cardo, and was hoping the Slim would fit this helmet since I really like the low-profile form factor. I appreciate your help!
Our pleasure! The Slim is definitely a great system, but the battery does tend to make the mounting much more complicated. Other than the Cardo Packtalk Bold, another option may be the new Sena 50R / 50S, though in the end they are still going to be about the same level of bulk. If you have any further questions, we're always happy to help!
@@Championhelmets Do you know if the Sena 10U for Arai full-face helmets works with the Corsair X? It seems like it might face the same issue with the battery and neckroll.
Since the neck area of the system is slimmer and does not seem to need to go as far into the helmet, it has a much better chance of fitting in the helmet if it is slotted underneath the neck roll and the neck vent. Of the various slim communicators, the 10U for Arai probably stands the best chance
Was anyone able to install the Cardo Packtalk Slim communicator on the HJC F70 helmet ? What about this special Sena compartment at the rear of the helmet, can Cardo somehow fit over/in it? The helmet is not listed on the Cardo site under helmets comparability, but I wonder if anyone in the real world did it...
The best option as far as hiding Cardo Packtalk wires is usually to try and tuck as many wires under the neck roll and behind the cheek pads as possible. It may take a few tries to find the best configuration, but it will vary from helmet to helmet. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
@@Championhelmets I rode with it for about 100 miles a couple days ago. I have the cardo pack slim, medium bell star mips. The rear battery pack has to sit slightly u centered on the rear of the helmet due to a bit of helmet structure on the side that the neck roll latches to, meaning the controller for the unit can't be further back. But it all works, just a tight fit. However I use eargasm ear plugs (funny name I know) and it cuts out all wind noise just about, leaving me with my music, any voices, motor sounds. The jbl speakers are really quite decent. I am a bit of an audiophile so I tend to nitpick. But I am overall pleased with the product. I got it on sale for 280, and I still think that was a bit much. 250 or even less would be nice. But I still bought it so I suppose it must be low enough lol. The verbal controls are much easier to use rather than memorizing all the different button combos. I did get the slim because of the wider buttons for ease of use with gloves. The ridges between buttons on the controller makes finding which one I'm on much easier. The audio quality for speaking to someone over the phone is much better now, compared to when I had plugphones and just shoved the mic up by my cheek. Overall? Love the product. I find myself excited to ride with it and learn more about it. I have used the full face helmet mic, looking forward to testing the boom mic later. Thanks for the help on hiding wires :)
@@sketchylandbeast4378 Thanks for letting us know your thoughts on the system, we appreciate it! We were also impressed with the quality of the JBL speakers when we tested them out and Cardo have generally given us an excellently designed system. We hope the wires worked out alright in the end as well. If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
It should fit on pretty well. There isn't anything blocking the mounting points on the helmet. Have you also considered the Sena Ark? It is made specifically for AGV helmets
Hi Mo, The Ark won´t work with those helmets unfortunately. The Cardo Packtalk Slim and Bold both fit onto the Corsa and Pista though. Because there are no cut outs in the liner for the speakers, you might find they press a little against you, though that depends.
@@Championhelmets I did not consider the Sena Ark because does not have mesh communication. Which is a big thing for the future. Same story with the Sena for the Neotec 2 that my dad has. All these helmet brand specific communicators are always behind in technology sadly. The Packtalk Slim seems to be the best out there at this moment. Just not 100% sure if it would fit cause i read conflicting stories about it.
Have you guys tried to install the Packtalk Slim on a Schubert C4 Basic yet? Just wondering since Cardo does not list Schubert at all on their list. Thanks
Probably because Sena is making systems for Schuberth nowadays. Also Schubert has this ring collar that seals the helmet off even more for noise reduction and the lips on this systems installation are not designed to go between that collar and the helmet.
Thanks! I haven't been able to try fitting it onto that helmet specifically but it should fit on well. I'm assuming you have the QV right? What do you think of it?
just bought a RPHA 11 pro venom 2 helmet and this exact packtalk slim. glad to found this video as it was perfect for me
Great to hear, and thanks for the feedback! We hope you enjoy your new RPHA
I have installed in my roof boxxer...high quality product👌🏽thx for the review
Thanks H.I.O. Ozcan for your feedback. Enjoy and ride safe.
A video showing off how to Install a black component, in a black helmet, wearing a black t-shirt, in front of a black backdrop, on a black table. Might as well have shut the lights off!
Can't see what's going on
An honest and not mean to be "critical" point, it would have been nice to use a white table and a white shirt so that the black device components and helmet stuff would stand out a bit better. It seems to get lost and can't really see much of it very well. Just a thought for the future. (Great video though, very helpful)
Thanks for the feedback! We're aware of this, and are currently looking into other color options.
What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
@@Championhelmets I'm excited about it. Still investigating options, but this is looking like the top one right now.
Thanks for the reply, it's always best to take care of the research first! If you find you have any questions, we're always happy to help
I would strongly recommend you change the background colour and your TShirt colour to something light or white. It's very difficult to see motorcycle accessories on a black background (most of them are black).
Good review
Thanks!
Easy to understand
Hi, is it possible to install Cardo Packtalk Slim in a Caberg Levo?
Great video! Do you think this would fit in the Icon Airflite? Cardo didn't list the helmet on their website unfortunately.
Thanks for the comment! The Cardo should fit fine in the Airflite. Though the bottom lip is on the wider side, there are speaker cutouts that will make things a bit easier.
How have you found the Airflite so far?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for the reply! I have found the Airflite to be quite good so far. The looks and price really did it for me. However it is my first helmet, so I can't compare it to anything else.
Even if it's your first helmet, it's still great that you're enjoying it!
If you have any more questions, we're more than happy to answer them
I use this device and i like it
Great to hear! What helmet do you have it in?
@@Championhelmets Hjc rpha 70
Nice, thanks for letting us know
I have a Shoei Neotec 2, do you recommend the slim or the bold unit as I am not keen on the Sena System?
Thanks for the question! For the Neotec 2 the bold unit would be better in this case due to the positioning of the system's different parts. However, both offer the same features and both will fit, so it comes down to personal preference
What do you call the round thing on the table that you putt helmet on?
Do I need more than one if I have multiple
Helmets?
Any idea why 1 side is working way better than the other in terms of music.
Unfortunately, you're not alone in this issue since some people have also found a problem with the speakers. The best thing to do is to double check the wires to ensure that they're wired correctly and that they don't have any faults. Otherwise, it may also help to try contacting Cardo directly.
Besides the volume issue, how have you found the Packtalk Slim so far?
might help in the future if you don't have your installer wearing a black shirt on a black table while installing a black cardo system. . . .can barely see anything
Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it!
What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
Great video but maybe don’t wear a back shirt and use a black helmet when showing the install part. Kinda makes it hard to see what your showing.
I'm wondering if the Slim would fit the Airoh Rev'it or if the Bold would be better
I couldn't find any info anywhere else so help is wanted
Thanks for the question! Both should generally be fine on the Airoh Rev 19 since you'll have plenty of space to mount the systems. However, considering the chin bar will be moving, the Slim may be a little more convenient since it will sit a bit more out of the way and have a smaller profile
Why does it look like he put the clamp on before the adapter.. I thought it was the other way around??
Nice review
Guess what still waiting on my new lid 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 customs cleared it on Monday the 16 but no tracking info or updates from USPS since that day 🕶🕶🕶I sincerely hope it was not stolen or disappear like my 2018 Mugello where I had to get a replacement for which I am very very thankful to 🏆 helmets ⛑ 👏for sending me a replacement
Hi Mo, that isn't what we want to hear! I have told Onur about this and he will be in contact with you soon so that we can sort out where it is!
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Sounds great 👍 I will keep you guys posted I am hoping by Friday to either see it in my hands or see an update from USPS I called customer service & was told same info as their web site
USPS :
In-Transit
July 16, 2019 at 5:18 am
Inbound Out of Customs
DHL
Status on Mo, 15.07.2019 23:18 hours:
The shipment has cleared customs in the destination country.
Thanks Mo, If you have any trouble please call us
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Just an update no changes for the tracking of the winter test helmet
I am seriously pissed about USPS
service It seems to me this package vanished just like the Mugello did
I hope you guys add insurance on these
Packages before shipping them so at least you can retrieve some funds back from DHL if they are not delivered.
I called customs in New York & was told the package was released to USPS NY on the 16th & I have to wait as it might take up to 30 days to reach me which is absurd . I asked if there is a phone number I can call to check status I was told no .
I am very skeptical as there is no tracking updates or scans of the bar code since the 16th . So it was not picked up from Customs yet because normally once a package leaves one area or department along its shipping route it has to get scanned ,
it’s not in the system yet or simply vanished only time will tell
@@mosoliman4489 That is not good... Thanks for the update and we will keep you informed with the process via email
Do you have any idea if the Packtalk Slim would fit my Shark Spartan Carbon helmet? Also, can the unit connect to bluetooth headphones or are you limited to using wired headphones/earplugs?
The Cardo Packtalk Slim should be able to fit in the Spartan Carbon. The main hurdle to keep in mind is that fitting the battery pack may be more challenging since the Spartan Carbon has reserved the space for the Sharktooth Prime Intercom system.
As far as speakers, you can use your choice, as long as they are wired and use a standard 3.5mm audio jack.
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
Is it possible to install Cardo Packtalk Slim in a Shoei NXR2? I have a successful installation on the NXR1 but still wondering if it will be as easy on the NXR2.
Very helpfull thanks
Can the Cardo Packtalk SLIM also be attached to the new HJC carbon helmets (RPHA 11 carbon, 70 carbon, 90S carbon) even though these helmets are prepared for SENA?
will it connect with Sena?
I've installed it on my rpha 70 but I'm struggling with the speakers connection and where to hide it. Any suggestion?
Hey there! You may have to move the cheek pads out of the way slightly to get the cables in and then try to button the cheek pad back in. Since there aren't any grooves for the wires, you may have to get a little creative with it.
But, if you're still have trouble, feel free to send us an email (www.championhelmets.com/en/service/) with some pictures and we'll do our best to help you out
I read in comments below that someone asked about the compatibility with Schuberth C4 Basic helmet. You explained it in regards to speakers and microphone, but my question is, will the mount for the main unit fit the bottom of this helmet? It has very broad plastic edge there and I'm afraid the clip mount won't fit (will be too narrow). Please advise.
Is it compatible with the helmet: SHARK RACE-R PRO GP? Thanx.
Hey there! Since the Shark Race-R Pro GP has space for installing the Sharktooth Prime, and Cardo systems are meant to fit almost any helmet, it should be compatible with the Shark helmet even with a bit of squeezing here and there
Can't see the product. Black table, black background, black shirt. Absolutely no visual contrast......
Do you know if it fits a LS2 Valiant ? I have saw that the packtalk has 3M tape that helps to install in a wide variety of helmets.
That's correct, the Cardo does use adhesive to attach to a range of helmets. So, it should fit the LS2 Valiant as well.
@@Championhelmets thanks for the reply and your videos !!!
OK they call it slim, but now you have to clip 2 devices on your helmet. that is rather a con than a pro.
it looks better. what er the other pro's against the bold? (not talking about the price)
Hey there! The main pros of the Slim are Cardo have updated the controls to make the system interface simpler and the system is smaller and more aerodynamic. The cons of the Slim are that it has a slightly shorter range than the Bold and you also have the additional battery pack insert. Other than this the specs should be about the same between the two systems. Which system are you currently leaning towards?
have you installed this on a Schuberth C4 yet? Do you know if it will fit or not? Thanks
Your Cardo Palktalk shoud be able to fit in the Schuberth C4. The C4's microphone is placed at the top of the helmet so you shouldn't have any trouble there. Though the speakers are not easily removable, you should be able to squeeze the Cardo in, since the cutouts are still fairly low in the helmet's EPS at about where your ears would be. Otherwise, the Schuberth C4 Pro should also fit the Cardo, since the speakers were further slimmed down and the cutouts made deeper
@@Championhelmets Thanks but I should have specified the C4 Basic, but I think I already know the answer.
Great review. Will this fit the AGV K3 SV?
We haven't tested it on that specific helmet, but looking at the lining it should fit. Do you ride with the K3?
@@Championhelmets I do. and have the same question. Trickier for peeps like me in India where Cardo isn't selling yet, to have it shipped and realise it doesn't fit.
@@Championhelmets Yes I ride with a K3 SV.
Considering the way in which it is installed and the other helmets it is compatible with, we see no reason why it shouldn't fit the K3.
Do you think it will work with the Arai Corsair X/RX-7V? I can't tell if the rubber vent on the back of the neck roll will interfere with the battery.
Because of the vent being so close against the back of the helmet, it will be very difficult to add the battery. The same situation goes for underneath the neck roll, which means the Slim will generally be a challenge to mount. In this case, the Packtalk Bold may be a better option. Though it is bulkier, it is self-contained, which makes mounting much easier.
What do you think of the Cardo system?
@@Championhelmets I've never used a Cardo. I've been using a Sena SMH-10 for the past 10+ years, and I've been wanting to move to something less bulky, hoping it would create less wind noise. I've heard very good things about the Cardo, and was hoping the Slim would fit this helmet since I really like the low-profile form factor. I appreciate your help!
Our pleasure! The Slim is definitely a great system, but the battery does tend to make the mounting much more complicated. Other than the Cardo Packtalk Bold, another option may be the new Sena 50R / 50S, though in the end they are still going to be about the same level of bulk.
If you have any further questions, we're always happy to help!
@@Championhelmets Do you know if the Sena 10U for Arai full-face helmets works with the Corsair X? It seems like it might face the same issue with the battery and neckroll.
Since the neck area of the system is slimmer and does not seem to need to go as far into the helmet, it has a much better chance of fitting in the helmet if it is slotted underneath the neck roll and the neck vent. Of the various slim communicators, the 10U for Arai probably stands the best chance
Was anyone able to install the Cardo Packtalk Slim communicator on the HJC F70 helmet ?
What about this special Sena compartment at the rear of the helmet, can Cardo somehow fit over/in it?
The helmet is not listed on the Cardo site under helmets comparability, but I wonder if anyone in the real world did it...
if im going 130 mph is the wind blowing the com off?
Any tips on hiding cables on bell star mips?
The best option as far as hiding Cardo Packtalk wires is usually to try and tuck as many wires under the neck roll and behind the cheek pads as possible. It may take a few tries to find the best configuration, but it will vary from helmet to helmet.
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the Cardo system?
@@Championhelmets I rode with it for about 100 miles a couple days ago. I have the cardo pack slim, medium bell star mips. The rear battery pack has to sit slightly u centered on the rear of the helmet due to a bit of helmet structure on the side that the neck roll latches to, meaning the controller for the unit can't be further back. But it all works, just a tight fit. However I use eargasm ear plugs (funny name I know) and it cuts out all wind noise just about, leaving me with my music, any voices, motor sounds. The jbl speakers are really quite decent. I am a bit of an audiophile so I tend to nitpick. But I am overall pleased with the product. I got it on sale for 280, and I still think that was a bit much. 250 or even less would be nice. But I still bought it so I suppose it must be low enough lol. The verbal controls are much easier to use rather than memorizing all the different button combos. I did get the slim because of the wider buttons for ease of use with gloves. The ridges between buttons on the controller makes finding which one I'm on much easier. The audio quality for speaking to someone over the phone is much better now, compared to when I had plugphones and just shoved the mic up by my cheek. Overall? Love the product. I find myself excited to ride with it and learn more about it. I have used the full face helmet mic, looking forward to testing the boom mic later. Thanks for the help on hiding wires :)
@@sketchylandbeast4378 Thanks for letting us know your thoughts on the system, we appreciate it! We were also impressed with the quality of the JBL speakers when we tested them out and Cardo have generally given us an excellently designed system. We hope the wires worked out alright in the end as well.
If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
I have a icon Airflite helmet, would it fit properly?
Thanks for the question! The Cardo should fit in the Airflite since it does also include speaker cutouts
@@Championhelmets awesome, thank you for responding to my question I appreciate that ✊
Would the packtalk slim work/fit on an AGV Sportmodular? Cardo does not list it.
It should fit on pretty well. There isn't anything blocking the mounting points on the helmet. Have you also considered the Sena Ark? It is made specifically for AGV helmets
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Would the Siena Ark work with the Pista / Corsa GPR if not let me know which system does thanks 🙏
Hi Mo,
The Ark won´t work with those helmets unfortunately.
The Cardo Packtalk Slim and Bold both fit onto the Corsa and Pista though. Because there are no cut outs in the liner for the speakers, you might find they press a little against you, though that depends.
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Awesome 👏 fast 💨 response Cheers 🥂
@@Championhelmets I did not consider the Sena Ark because does not have mesh communication. Which is a big thing for the future. Same story with the Sena for the Neotec 2 that my dad has. All these helmet brand specific communicators are always behind in technology sadly. The Packtalk Slim seems to be the best out there at this moment. Just not 100% sure if it would fit cause i read conflicting stories about it.
Have you guys tried to install the Packtalk Slim on a Schubert C4 Basic yet? Just wondering since Cardo does not list Schubert at all on their list. Thanks
Probably because Sena is making systems for Schuberth nowadays. Also Schubert has this ring collar that seals the helmet off even more for noise reduction and the lips on this systems installation are not designed to go between that collar and the helmet.
Will it fit on a sedici strata carbon ?
The reason why I watched the video was to watch how to connect prong to battery
Nope we will skip that lol
Nice review. Do you think it will fit Arai qv?
Thanks! I haven't been able to try fitting it onto that helmet specifically but it should fit on well. I'm assuming you have the QV right? What do you think of it?
@@Championhelmets Yes I do have QV and it's amazing. Fit and ventilation is great. Thank you for uploading amazing videos, keep it up 😁
how are these in the rain?
They are waterproof. Does it rain a lot in your area?
Ruined my Bell trying to install this
someone get this bloke some water
Ol mate doesn't know his left and right and now the adhesive pads on the wrong side, go back to school mate
Black on black. I can’t see a fucking thing. When you say this and this, wtf?
Thanks!