I'm not looking to ok negotiate with any of the hundreds to thousands of these obstacles...I know I can't and I won't but would rather.turn them into popcycles...Like choke on a fronzen pole that they swallowed with the wrong whole ..
I disagree, only way to avoid them is to find another job. What do you think happens when your bosses go to seminars and meetings??They are trying to figure out ways to use psychology to see who will be the most compliant, who doesn't mind getting into conflict. It's all systemized so the higher ups don't ever have to actually do any real work. They delegate everything and teach their managers how to use psychology as well.. It's a way these sick people can have power without having money. That's why they stay in the job for so long, it's how these people get high. They all have one thing in common, their lives outside of the job is nonexistent, meaning they have no children, no husband or wife, or they only go out with coworkers. Their lives pretty much revolves around the power they get from holding a position of importance at their job... It's like an indoctrination into a cult and these people cannot maintain romantic relationships because no woman or man cares about your position at some job but they will bring that delusional arrogance they've gained from the job, it's inevitable and that will obviously rub a romantic partner the wrong way.
The gossip and rumour spreading among narcissists in the workplace is tremendous these days. I don't remember seeing this many toxic people 20 years ago as I do now.
It's really odd to me that upper management never seems to notice that they cant keep people in certian departments. I worked in a department that I really loved and 3 very toxic people chased me off and many others before and after I had Ieft.
I also wonder can a workplace have all types of narcs? The executive level boss is grandiose, some administrative might have a higher narc level than average, and one performer is definitely a covert, another two has strong dark triad traits.
SO ENTITLED! I finally left nursing due to the bullying. So many coworkers that think they're the boss and the rules don't apply to them! Including the covert nurse managers that made wonderful promises, usually with a sweet smile, and cute voice. But if you naively assume they intend to follow regulation that protects patients, first they will lie to you, then they will try to force you, then all promises made upon hiring are null and void. :P
@@ARedMagicMarker You're so right! That's actually the real cause of the nursing shortage, the nurse-on-nurse bullying. While the public is "worshipping" nurses calling them "Angels" & "Heroes" (partly promoted by nurse P.R.), there is a common expression in nursing, "Nurses eat their young".
I have a few rental properties. I leaned the hard way. Anytime my gut tells me a tenant is a narc with that chip on their shoulder, they get a non-renewal letter as soon as the lease is due.
@rebecca zung what to do if narc is a senior co-worker and you need their frequent input in some/other way in your work? Like I have joined a lab where she (narc) is the only personn dealing with that subject and in fact i am given a shared research project with her?
Unfortunately I have experienced this twice in my career. Especially the lack of accountability they have. They are perfectly willing to throw someone else under the bus, but when something is obviously their fault or responsibility 'it's the situation' that is supposedly at fault. Dealing with narcissists at work is demoralising and exhausting and that's if you're lucky 😥😵
I'm trying to find a new job. My coworkers like to gossip and belittle people. My coworkers got a dry sense of humor. I dont understand their humor at all. Its confusing
I left two jobs due to jealous, narcissistic coworkers who purposely made my life hell and confusing until I quit. One job fired me without telling me and lied about it to my face. I had no idea they were handing me my last paycheck,
Cara, I’ve experienced the same and felt broken by it. But center yourself, take care of yourself, you will feel better and less stressed soon. I’m sorry you had to go through this. Going to HR doesn’t help- I tried that and that’s how I know. These types of people and workplaces will not improve. The best thing that happened is that it’s over with those people. Thank God you are no longer with them.
Hi Rebecca, thank you for your videos and advise. I've been stuck in a toxic job with a narcissistic micromanager for six years. I took your advise to ignore him and what you said happened. He couldn't handle me ignoring him. I'm now in the process of being fired. It's been very stressful but a relief at the end of the day.
Employer: file them Employee: find a different workplace "Co-worker": Stay in your lane; stick to your boundaries; bosses see this eventually; do a fantastic job. Stay aware and alert (be mindful of your surroundings). Don't give the any idea of your plans; continue with your adulation. Narcs are definitely scared of strong people.
I saw PROJECTION in one of my work places as well a stayed there for at least half a year then had to leave. The Narc will also use the entire workplace as witnesses against you; and are very good at playing the victim in front of management.
The information you share helps so much in dealing with a co-worker narcissist. Like you said they will get in your head, they won’t if you apply what you have shared. I just look at them and feel sorry for them knowing they have a condition. Thank you so much.
It seems like the harder you try the more they try to call you out. You'll never be good enough for a narc. The only time you'll here a "atta boy/girl" or that you are actually skilled is if you disconnect from them and they want you back to work. One of my old bosses always said he was trying to "tune me up" pretty much implying how much better he is to put im simple. Not good people to be associated with
The problem is narcissists are usually good at their jobs since they are perfectionists so they get away with a lot but however the toxicity they bring will always out way the benefits they offer.
This one employee is a NARC & sucks are their job, mistakes galore, selling below acceptable margin % etc just to "get the sale". It's laughable, yet management thinks this employee is great. It's a matter of time before they see that the #'s do not add up.
American laws are different than some countries. You say to keep on praise the employee you are going to fire so they have no idea what's coming down the pipes. In many countries, and certainly in any unionized environment, they can sue you for wrongful dismissal. If you have a grievance worth firing over, it needs to be documented that you discussed it with the employee, and told them what corrective measures were agreed upon. This may need to be documented multiple times, and signed by the employee, before firing can be undertaken. If you praise them for behaviour that you subsequently fire them for, consider yourself sued. Also, if the boss is a narc they will not necessarily reward integrity. They will reward whomever strokes their ego regardless of their job skills.
Yeah you know I was having that feeling but didn'tn't know how to call it since I read PT articles and applied the techniques to deal with narcs I have actually shifted the dynamics at work just on time...
Thank you so much. I'm being bullied at work, walking on eggshells and being undermined behind / just out of earshot (open plan office). I'm being trained by a woman whom I suspect is a Narcissist. I can't go no contact but I'm so drained as she's overpowering. There's a set of rules for me about chattiness then she continues to talk about non work related issues. If I speak she looks annoyed and says "can we talk work?". I go quiet then everyone asks if I'm OK. I feel exhausted and somewhat paranoid. She brags that she's a bitch. My Manager told me he has problems with her and I'm a good fit. She seems to be a flying monkey and I'm losing confidence.
What about those who start opposite at work that go from really disliking you to trying to make you your best friend like mean girl ,work at a hair salon
What do I do when I divorced the Narcissist over a year ago, we have a 14 year old together, I went no contact unless for child, and he gets a contracted job, at my place of employment. He “gets info” about me from coworkers now. My HR says nothing they can do unless he harasses me personally. HELP
My latest colleague 😮. She caused a divorce between another colleague and his wife She was one of the woman flirting with this man and when she didn't get the attention she wanted she caused trouble for him..he is also guilty for entertaining woman on a emotional level at work...but she came in with a very negative dark aura into the office..we did pretty okay before she came..after she started to work there this dark energy came along with her .I cannot explain it but yep she is always a victim...and yes I have called a few of them out in meetings..They do get in your head . They even play with energy..she wanted our kids to play together And something just told me...NO this woman is trouble so I have distanced myself...I will deal with her at work but not in my personal life too. She's a gossip.
It's since women came Into the workplace that we got so much narcissm, they crave power more than men I changed from construction to health and social care and I notice a huge increase in narcissistic people
👀 😔 it is a relief and I’m sorry to see you’re on the verge of being fired-were you able to utilize the services of HR, the Union, a workplace violence coordinator, a good lawyer? It’s too bad too because it doesn’t seem as though subordinates are as protected from toxic managers as toxic managers are protected from us
It's hard not to complain about what the narcissist/s are doing. And then WHEN YOU DO COMPLAIN it makes YOU look like the narcissist! 🤦🏻♀️😫 Sometimes you can be set up from DAY ONE by these..... people! I find myself often asking myself, "Do you really want to work in this den of thieves/iniquity.... surrounded by narcissists, liars, manipulators, .... Sure, nobody WANTS TO work around THAT..... but I often wonder.... If I stick around to long,....maybe I'll become ✌🏻ONE OF THEM.✌🏻 😳😫 You can only kiss the ass of (appease) the FALSE gODS (in worshipping them) for so long. And I DO MEAN WORSHIP! THEY DEMAND IT OF YOU!!! (To give them what THEY/the gods WANT, while they give you....a measure of peace and..... safety). Is any of what I'm saying here,.... ringing any bells? Why do you think one of the things the great gODVERNMENT went after in the beginning of... Apollo's arrow... was the small, family run businesses?
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Please read my post, I thought I was rid of him
I'm not looking to ok negotiate with any of the hundreds to thousands of these obstacles...I know I can't and I won't but would rather.turn them into popcycles...Like choke on a fronzen pole that they swallowed with the wrong whole ..
I disagree, only way to avoid them is to find another job. What do you think happens when your bosses go to seminars and meetings??They are trying to figure out ways to use psychology to see who will be the most compliant, who doesn't mind getting into conflict. It's all systemized so the higher ups don't ever have to actually do any real work. They delegate everything and teach their managers how to use psychology as well.. It's a way these sick people can have power without having money. That's why they stay in the job for so long, it's how these people get high. They all have one thing in common, their lives outside of the job is nonexistent, meaning they have no children, no husband or wife, or they only go out with coworkers. Their lives pretty much revolves around the power they get from holding a position of importance at their job... It's like an indoctrination into a cult and these people cannot maintain romantic relationships because no woman or man cares about your position at some job but they will bring that delusional arrogance they've gained from the job, it's inevitable and that will obviously rub a romantic partner the wrong way.
"If they're your employee, fire them!"
Finally, someone that does not make excuses for their behavior!
Thank you!!!!!!
Soooooooo entitled!
👍
The gossip and rumour spreading among narcissists in the workplace is tremendous these days. I don't remember seeing this many toxic people 20 years ago as I do now.
Its sad and disturbing
Rather sad and very true. Smear......................................... Horrible,
are you in the capital city of narc?
It’s a demon
@@HayleeStar they are so not human beings is what I think too
My ex-coworker has traits of both NPD and BPD. My ex-boss is a covert narcissist. All healthy employees ran away from that chaotic workplace.
It's really odd to me that upper management never seems to notice that they cant keep people in certian departments. I worked in a department that I really loved and 3 very toxic people chased me off and many others before and after I had Ieft.
I also wonder can a workplace have all types of narcs? The executive level boss is grandiose, some administrative might have a higher narc level than average, and one performer is definitely a covert, another two has strong dark triad traits.
@@junpan6823 definitely.
SO ENTITLED! I finally left nursing due to the bullying. So many coworkers that think they're the boss and the rules don't apply to them! Including the covert nurse managers that made wonderful promises, usually with a sweet smile, and cute voice. But if you naively assume they intend to follow regulation that protects patients, first they will lie to you, then they will try to force you, then all promises made upon hiring are null and void.
:P
I heard that nursing was full of narcs. And I believe it.
@@ARedMagicMarker You're so right! That's actually the real cause of the nursing shortage, the nurse-on-nurse bullying. While the public is "worshipping" nurses calling them "Angels" & "Heroes" (partly promoted by nurse P.R.), there is a common expression in nursing, "Nurses eat their young".
How are you doing now? Hope you're feeling well and getting your power back! 💪
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I have a few rental properties. I leaned the hard way. Anytime my gut tells me a tenant is a narc with that chip on their shoulder, they get a non-renewal letter as soon as the lease is due.
Hmm...
I wish you owned the property I live in. The woman next to me harasses every single neighbor in this townhouse complex.
"If it's your boss.....It doesn't get better, it only gets worse!"
"If it's your co-worker, stay in your lane and don't take the bait!"
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@rebecca zung what to do if narc is a senior co-worker and you need their frequent input in some/other way in your work? Like I have joined a lab where she (narc) is the only personn dealing with that subject and in fact i am given a shared research project with her?
I had both a narc boss and narc co-workers lol. The team was a complete mess.
"Go no contact!
They do get in your head! They do cause this drama, trauma chaos!"
Unfortunately I have experienced this twice in my career. Especially the lack of accountability they have. They are perfectly willing to throw someone else under the bus, but when something is obviously their fault or responsibility 'it's the situation' that is supposedly at fault. Dealing with narcissists at work is demoralising and exhausting and that's if you're lucky 😥😵
I'm trying to find a new job. My coworkers like to gossip and belittle people. My coworkers got a dry sense of humor. I dont understand their humor at all. Its confusing
I changed departments and just focused on shining so bright their nonsense couldn't stick.
Oooo, you hit em where it hurts. They HATE it when anyone shines their light.
I left two jobs due to jealous, narcissistic coworkers who purposely made my life hell and confusing until I quit. One job fired me without telling me and lied about it to my face. I had no idea they were handing me my last paycheck,
Cara, I’ve experienced the same and felt broken by it. But center yourself, take care of yourself, you will feel better and less stressed soon.
I’m sorry you had to go through this.
Going to HR doesn’t help- I tried that and that’s how I know.
These types of people and workplaces will not improve.
The best thing that happened is that it’s over with those people.
Thank God you are no longer with them.
Sad this is the norm these days
Hi Rebecca, thank you for your videos and advise. I've been stuck in a toxic job with a narcissistic micromanager for six years. I took your advise to ignore him and what you said happened. He couldn't handle me ignoring him. I'm now in the process of being fired. It's been very stressful but a relief at the end of the day.
You should get compensation. It is not be a firing.
Employer: file them
Employee: find a different workplace
"Co-worker": Stay in your lane; stick to your boundaries; bosses see this eventually; do a fantastic job. Stay aware and alert (be mindful of your surroundings).
Don't give the any idea of your plans; continue with your adulation.
Narcs are definitely scared of strong people.
They're just pure evil through and through. I find them weak, lazy and not helpful in anyway what so ever
"They just seem to be like the perfect kind of person, then they go into the devaluing phase, the discard phase!"
I saw PROJECTION in one of my work places as well a stayed there for at least half a year then had to leave. The Narc will also use the entire workplace as witnesses against you; and are very good at playing the victim in front of management.
The information you share helps so much in dealing with a co-worker narcissist. Like you said they will get in your head, they won’t if you apply what you have shared. I just look at them and feel sorry for them knowing they have a condition. Thank you so much.
Omg thank you for this video! I was just thinking about this!
The average person can "display" some of the behavior, but for a Narcissists their "extreme behavior" is a way of life!
It seems like the harder you try the more they try to call you out. You'll never be good enough for a narc. The only time you'll here a "atta boy/girl" or that you are actually skilled is if you disconnect from them and they want you back to work. One of my old bosses always said he was trying to "tune me up" pretty much implying how much better he is to put im simple. Not good people to be associated with
The problem is narcissists are usually good at their jobs since they are perfectionists so they get away with a lot but however the toxicity they bring will always out way the benefits they offer.
This one employee is a NARC & sucks are their job, mistakes galore, selling below acceptable margin % etc just to "get the sale". It's laughable, yet management thinks this employee is great. It's a matter of time before they see that the #'s do not add up.
Rebecca, your eye game 👁️👁️ is on point in this video. Looks very pretty 🦋.
Another thing they do sometimes is they'll do things to make someone else appear dumb, incompetent.
American laws are different than some countries. You say to keep on praise the employee you are going to fire so they have no idea what's coming down the pipes. In many countries, and certainly in any unionized environment, they can sue you for wrongful dismissal. If you have a grievance worth firing over, it needs to be documented that you discussed it with the employee, and told them what corrective measures were agreed upon. This may need to be documented multiple times, and signed by the employee, before firing can be undertaken. If you praise them for behaviour that you subsequently fire them for, consider yourself sued. Also, if the boss is a narc they will not necessarily reward integrity. They will reward whomever strokes their ego regardless of their job skills.
It is strange that narc boss may hire narc subordinates, and more and more narc in the same organization.
Yeah you know I was having that feeling but didn'tn't know how to call it since I read PT articles and applied the techniques to deal with narcs I have actually shifted the dynamics at work just on time...
I made the mistake of thinking things will get better as an employee and with colleagues.
Thank you so much. I'm being bullied at work, walking on eggshells and being undermined behind / just out of earshot (open plan office). I'm being trained by a woman whom I suspect is a Narcissist. I can't go no contact but I'm so drained as she's overpowering. There's a set of rules for me about chattiness then she continues to talk about non work related issues. If I speak she looks annoyed and says "can we talk work?". I go quiet then everyone asks if I'm OK. I feel exhausted and somewhat paranoid. She brags that she's a bitch. My Manager told me he has problems with her and I'm a good fit. She seems to be a flying monkey and I'm losing confidence.
Thanks for this upload Rebecca! 💕
So entitled
What about those who start opposite at work that go from really disliking you to trying to make you your best friend like mean girl ,work at a hair salon
Amazing video, thanks so much!
SO TRUE!
SO ENTITLED
What do I do when I divorced the Narcissist over a year ago, we have a 14 year old together, I went no contact unless for child, and he gets a contracted job, at my place of employment. He “gets info” about me from coworkers now. My HR says nothing they can do unless he harasses me personally. HELP
My latest colleague 😮. She caused a divorce between another colleague and his wife
She was one of the woman flirting with this man and when she didn't get the attention she wanted she caused trouble for him..he is also guilty for entertaining woman on a emotional level at work...but she came in with a very negative dark aura into the office..we did pretty okay before she came..after she started to work there this dark energy came along with her .I cannot explain it but yep she is always a victim...and yes I have called a few of them out in meetings..They do get in your head . They even play with energy..she wanted our kids to play together And something just told me...NO this woman is trouble so I have distanced myself...I will deal with her at work but not in my personal life too. She's a gossip.
So Entitled! Spot on!
It's since women came Into the workplace that we got so much narcissm, they crave power more than men
I changed from construction to health and social care and I notice a huge increase in narcissistic people
Most of the narcs at my job are men...it's not always women.
Entitled!!! Oh my! She is sooo THIS!
SO ENTITLED
I love your story. truly right.
Yes all the time people think they are great
👀 😔 it is a relief and I’m sorry to see you’re on the verge of being fired-were you able to utilize the services of HR, the Union, a workplace violence coordinator, a good lawyer?
It’s too bad too because it doesn’t seem as though subordinates are as protected from toxic managers as toxic managers are protected from us
SOOOO ENTITLED!!!
Sick people. So glad to get out of there.
ITS HIM , that guy who is my current co-worker
How to fire a covert narc? Any legal resources to refer in labor law?
amen! I am with you
Entitlement to the maximum
How do i do damage control after the narcissists manipulated the GAL?
Thanks. 👍
So true
So at what age do you feel a child/person can start to show narcissistic tendencies?
Good question
Rebecca zung. You are very beautiful 😍. Your videos are Inspiring, During these tough times.
I LOVE YOU...........NITU(EUROPA)
They are so entitled.
So Entitled!
So untitled 😈
It's hard not to complain about what the narcissist/s are doing. And then WHEN YOU DO COMPLAIN it makes YOU look like the narcissist! 🤦🏻♀️😫
Sometimes you can be set up from DAY ONE by these..... people!
I find myself often asking myself, "Do you really want to work in this den of thieves/iniquity.... surrounded by narcissists, liars, manipulators, .... Sure, nobody WANTS TO work around THAT..... but I often wonder.... If I stick around to long,....maybe I'll become ✌🏻ONE OF THEM.✌🏻 😳😫
You can only kiss the ass of (appease) the FALSE gODS (in worshipping them) for so long. And I DO MEAN WORSHIP! THEY DEMAND IT OF YOU!!! (To give them what THEY/the gods WANT, while they give you....a measure of peace and..... safety).
Is any of what I'm saying here,.... ringing any bells?
Why do you think one of the things the great gODVERNMENT went after in the beginning of... Apollo's arrow... was the small, family run businesses?
SO so so entitled...
So entitled
So entitled!!
Sooo entitled !
Sooooo entitled!
I’m getting narcissistic vibes from Rebecca zung
Soooo entitled
So entitled.
SO ENTITLED
So entitled
So entitled !!
So entitled