I like the design of Tactix too but why is it so much more expensive than the First Tactical Specialist 1-Day or Rush 24? Tactix is $190 vs $100-130 for the Specialist 1-Day. I even found one for $75 in tan color (sold by First Tactical). Even though i like Tactix better than Rush 24 i can't justify spending so much extra money, that's crazy... I feel like FT Specialist 1-Day vs Rush 24 would've been a better comparison. Very nice video, thanks!
Hi Gabe, my name is Tim Wimberly and I am from San Diego, California and it’s nice to meet you. Nice and impressive video on both the 5.11 Rush24 2.0 and the First Tactics Backpacks. Let me get right to the point. I am retired U.S. Army Combat Trained Military Policeman that has seen and experienced a lot of military luggage that has been put through a lot of torture. 5.11 with their Tactical Backpacks and engineering designs can withstand the most austere environments. However First Tactics after Your demonstration video with them wins when it comes to load carrying factors and ergonomics for outdoor sports however I question its combat effectiveness and efficiency. I am 6ft. 150lbs and you are 5ft. 11 and 190lbs. Both manufacturers design military/tactical backpacks for different customers. First Tactics however does not business with one of the Biggest Military Luggage Retailers in the United States and that’s Military Luggage Company and they are based in Fayetteville, North Carolina contiguous to Joint Base Bragg/Pope Home of Various Specialized Units of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force and First Tactics products need to tested to U.S Department of Defense engineering standards (DARPA)at Ft. Irwin California and Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. I am a also a military luggage sustainment specialist and analyst that throws military luggage full of bricks and concrete off cliffs, ships, run over by heavy vehicles here in San Diego County California. To see if certain Military Luggage equipment can with combat environments on both sea, air and land. Overall Gabe You did a Great job on Your video just next time get more advice from the Professionals. V/R Tim Wimberly Military Luggage Sustainment Analyst And U.S. Army Military Police (RET). Indiana State University M.S. B.S. and B.S.
Hey Tim, HOOAH! Thanks for watching and commenting. On to addressing your points: *_"I question its combat effectiveness and efficiency":_* I would also. I have not used either packs, ever, for combat or anything of that nature. I too have seen and heard positive remarks of 5.11 on the field (e.g., Fort Irwin). *_First Tactics however does not business with one of the Biggest Military Luggage Retailers in the United States and that’s Military Luggage Company and they are based in Fayetteville, North Carolina contiguous to Joint Base Bragg/Pope Home of Various Specialized Units of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force and First Tactics products need to tested to U.S Department of Defense engineering standards (DARPA)...:_* This is good to know. I will say that First Tactical is a reputable company as well. Maybe not to the level of the military but is a sought out brand by both law enforcement and first responders. *_Overall Gabe You did a Great job on Your video just next time get more advice from the Professionals_* .: Again , thank you. As for asking advice, I wouldn't be sure on who or what to ask? The purpose of this video was to share a comparison of two high quality tactical backpacks that have some history together (owners), my intentions for buying them (i.e., Fitness, EDC, Travel, Rucking), my personal experiences, and to share some visuals as there aren't many out there. First Tactical "won" because it best suits my needs. That's all. I am with you and agree to what many others have shared, 5.11 is a great brand and pack. Many who serve in the military or law enforcement may be using this backpack and speak highly towards it, however, under my categories, it just didn't deliver. But going forward, at least we know that if there are questions on High Performing Tactical Backpacks, You're the guy that can help.
I've used 5.11's backpacks, especially the Rush 24, for many years but I'm waaay more happy with the Tactix One day. The features are vastly superior and it looks way better thanks to the laser cut webbing. The One Day has completely replaced both my Rush 24 and 12 and I'm also thinking of buying the 3 Day to replace my rush 72.
My choice is 5.11. I own Rush 72 maybe six years and that thing is great for caring my stuf and absolutely immortal. So I'm planing bought little brother. Next thing I like it's little smaller and better in keeping shape than First tactical. But still... You make really great video. 👍
Both packs looks like a great choice, but Im gonna go with the 5.11. Ive bought gear from 3rd party companies in the past and they tend to disappear from the market and offer no support. 5.11 has been around for a long time and that adds to the brand as a whole.
I’m a backpack addict and have a hard time comparing. I appreciate all of them as their own entity. In that respect each one has their specific purpose. I’m a big fan of 5.11 and most of my bags are 5.11 or Maxpedition. However, I’ve never heard of first tactical before and from this review it looks like it may be a quality pack. I think I’ll pick a tactix and try it out. Good vid 👍
Right on! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. Keep me posted on what you get (e.g., halfday plus or 1 day plus) and your thoughts behind it.
The (drain) holes in the First Tactical are a deal breaker for me. It totally defeats the purpose of using water resistant material. Water, snow, mud and dirt comes inside the bag through the drain holes - you can never put your bag on the ground.
As the user of the first version of rush 24, I have to admit that I like it for it’s brutal simplicity. I can see how it was designed to dump either a box of ammo or your weekly shopping into the main compartment. It’s not over engineered, yet vastly sensible. One thing to note is that your back will get really sweaty on a hot day due to lack of any ventilation.
Awesome video! Very thorough & fair comparison. Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either one. They kinda have the same genetics in a sense. I tend to refer to First Tactical as 5.11 Junior because they both have great products that are kinda made by the same people. Both companies were started by Dan Costa. He started 5.11 in 2003 and First Tactical in 2015. The end result is you’re getting a quality product no matter which one you choose.
100% agree. I know people are loyalists to brands. Im one of them with Under Armour lol. But all in all, just wanted to share some great gear in hopes to help others on their buying decision. Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel :)
@@GabeCuello Before I forget, the very top loop on the straps of the RUSH are not for the sternum straps. It’s actually for holding the straw on your hydration pack. 👍🏽
I think both are great bags. The first tactical does have better organization and looks. After owning both, I have to say I slightly prefer the 5.11 base on the carry system. To me the yoke strap is much more comfortable than the first tactical. The lack of waist belt don't really bother me none because I use it to replace the assault pack that the army issued me. I only find waist belt useful if I'm carrying a rucksack with heavy loads. With that being said, I take the 5.11 when I go to the field and any missions. But for everything else, I take the first tactical. Great review 👍👍
Right on! Thanks for watching and commenting. Given what you said, it makes sense and I do agree about the Rush's level of comfort. The material just feels newer in material & better on me vs. the Tactix.
I think it's better if we can easily put one ourselves, like we can with 5.11. Ive seen way too many shitty waist belts that are built in, so i prefer the option for me to pick one i like and put it in like i can with the rush. Haven't done it yet, but i know sometime in the near future i will be on the hunt for a good waist belt for it. stay safe.
Ive had 2x rush 72, one the straps wore out after 10 years, the other I sold to get a smaller bag. Bought a rush 24, got stolen, bought another one. Great bags. I think next ill get a first tactical half day plus next. I carry less now. Its my edc, permanently setup as a bushcraft, bob, inconvenient camping kit, work bag etc. thanks for the review
Tactix for the win! 🥳 Fantastic comparison, brilliant format! Incredibly comprehensive and informative. Thank you for spending the time and posting. Helped me finalize my decision to buy First Tactical. 🙏👏🥰
I'm still a "toddler" in this field. I suppose with time, I'll earn more amazing people like you to support my channel and direction. Lots to come for sure!
I've had my First Tactical for almost 3 years, it's been packed full of water bottles, muddy clothing, wet towles, etc ive taken it up mountins, in caves, through rain storms and baking sun, 114f to -11f its never missed a beat. Trust me its solid.
Great comparison thanks, I have already got the Rush 12, its the best pack Ive had but based on this review , am gonna take a chance & give the Tactix a try, at the same time I know that if I went for the Rush 24, it would be superb too !. Thanks
I have them both in front of me now... I am not sure if I like the rush 24 better because I am familiar with it however I really wanted to like the First Tactical however the sunglass pocket was so shallow and the missing water bladder portion was not there. I also like the CCW pocket being velcro because the zipper is hard to get to and also everybody will know there is something inside the bag instead of the pocket being almost hidden in the Rush 24. I am still deciding what one to keep.
I know how challenging it might be lol. That's why I did this video. One of my hardest ones yet. Both bags offer so much and yet it's all a matter of preference and purpose. I do like my Tactix but I also wish they work on some modifications for their next one. If they decide to do that. Either way, you don't lose. Both are great. But do let me know which one you end up with, please :D
@@GabeCuello I ended up returning the first tactical 1 day plus bag for the first tactical tatix half day bag. I also decided to keep the rush 24.. however I love all the attachment packs & accessories first tactical offers. I have a week left to return the rush 24. I am really contemplating going all in on First Tactical now that I know Dan Costa CEO was the original owner of 511. I originally purchased the Rush 72, 24 & 12.. however when I discovered First Tactical I returned the Rush 12 for a first Tactical bag.. and now I’m thinking of going all in on all 3 sizes Tactix bags from First Tactical.
@@GabeCuello I ended up buying the half day plus First Tactical Tatix… I also kept the rush 24 as well. Now I want the one day plus now that I am used to it.
They’re seriously a joke if you plan on using them for an actual load. but they’re handy for most packs that have a dual slot d ring. I have them on a bunch of my lower end bags and they are great for light loadouts. I love 5.11…the lack of modular acceptance of an actual hip belt was the deal breaker for any of their tactical bags for me.
Hey Man, great video I ordered a Rush 2.0 a few days ago, cant wait to get it. (got a second hand Rush 24 1.0 last year) One thing i wanted to point out, 5.11 does offer a waist belt now, as an separate purchase for 20$ on their website.
@@GabeCuello Fair enough, its just it felt like a bit point in the video so I just wanted to shed some light. I do agree it should have come with from the get go.
Great review video one these two bags. I have 2 Rush bags the 12 & 24 but after watching you video I am going to take a hard look at the First Tactical bag. FT makes great stuff, I wear their V2 pants and really like the fit. Thanks for the great review. You have a new Subscriber here.😎 2A💪
You didn't even comment or score on the comfort and handling a heavy load, you just jumped to the final score. It looked like the weight was protruding from the bottom of the First Tactical pack. I'm not sure how comfortable or durable that would be in the long run. It looks like the 5.11 Rush 24 is the better pack for rucking with weights. I wished you would have compared how each pack felt with the weights.
The backpack that is reasonable to compare with Rush 24 2.0 is the Specialist 1-day, not the Tactix 1-day plus. You also didn't include the price for comparison. The specialist 1-day being the cheapest, Rush 24 2.0 being in the middle, and the Tactix 1-day plus being the most expensive of the three. You're like comparing Smartphone A with Smartphone B+ instead of Smartphone B.
Although the Tactix looks better imo I'd have to go with the rush, its built better and has less gimmicks. I compared both at the store (ended up purchasing the rush72), I also found the zippers on the tactix to be more finicky. In short, the tactix was trying to do too many things at once while the rush kept things sturdy, reliable and straight forward. The rush72 also comes with the stow-away pouch and is built with heavier duty material. The rush was also about 100 dollars cheaper so there's that too.
What the 5.11 Rush was $100 cheaper? What I have seen they both are about the same price point. I do own 2 Rush bags, Rush 12 & 24 and I'm happy with them. I do like the look of the First Tactical and I'm going to take a very close look at one today.
I'm not sure who you're responding too but I figured I'd let you and maybe my viewers know that I still own the Tactix 1day+, 1/2day+, and their Specialist 1/2day backpack's. Might do an update video, too, since I haven't been on here for some time. I genuinely like them, so yes, I still own them. They have been holding up very well, too. First Tactical isn't sponsoring me or paying me for these reviews either. As my videos suggest, their backpacks simply align with 'my goals'. 5.11's 2.0 Rush backpacks are great. In fact, I had owned their Rush 12 2.0 for a couple of months. Really nice backpack. However, it just wasn't working for me, so I traded it in.
I prefer the first tsctical over the 5.11 BUT. For me the 5.11 is more suitable for me. Mainly my o ly gripe with the first tac is that the shoulder strap and back panel are mesh instead of plain nylon. When I wore the first tacticalack the mesh got destroyed i no time by wearing it and it rubbing against my chest rig
You are the MF’n Man! 5.11 refuses to provide a waist belt for no applicable reason. Will the first tactical belt work on a 5.11 rush 24? I ruck, therefore it’s important to my training to have one supporting that weight. Keep up the outstanding work man.
Hey man, thanks for watching and supporting the channel. Sadly, the waist belt dose not work with Rush 24. Even the smaller sized straps. I tried lol. It may work by appearance but not in functionality.
Hey Gabe, thanks so much for this review....I have been a die hard 5.11 user for like 8 years.....I got the R24...2.0 and within 3 months the stitching on the shoulder straps started to come apart just a little.....so I went all out watched reviews and thought I would give this pack a try. I am up in Canada and travel in the FAR north 140 - 150 Days a year.....and Have dragged my 5.11's to hell and back....I notice that on the First Tactical the shoulder straps are actually removable....wow! do you know if you can get spar shoulder straps?....reason I ask, is like the other dude said, that meshy stuff doesn't look super durable?....weird considering everything else seems to be like Bomb proof....have you heard, or have has any issues with premature wear of that stuff? thoughts? thanks man and great review.
Hey! Thanks for watching my review. It totally sounds like you be gettin some out there. That's awesome! As for the straps: 1) I honestly don't think they sell spare shoulder straps. Please reach out to First Tactical directly for that info though. 2) I have done a few miles with the Tactix (loaded with 30-45lbs) and have had no issues with durability. Yes, they are a bit rough in texture (I sometimes hike with tank top and get aggressive skin rubs) but they are durable for me at least. The waist belt is (imo) what makes this backpack complete and freakn awesome. I bring that up because without it, the hikes and loaded carries might just be a bit fatiguing on the shoulders/traps over the long hauls. I know it's not much for a clear answer but I hope it works out for you. I'd also suggest buying a set of adjustable straps too (which they sell as a pair for $12 I think). They can come in handy.
You could email the company directly to see if they are willing to work with you. They have done amazing things for their customers before. They even ship two day shipping when you order on Amazon. I believe the waist belt is currently going for $39.99.
The sternum strap got caught on the thin mesh and tore the mesh easily after the first day using it. I adjusted the strap while wearing the pack with about 15 lbs of weight. I got a replacement on the way via AMZ however this is not a good sign.. do you have any issues like this? The mesh on the straps is so thin you can see the white padding inside. Do you think that’s normal? This is for the first tactical tactix half day pack.-- update I spoke with FT customer service. They said this is a very rare occurrence and they don’t get many calls for this issue. She said it’s covered for a year and if it happens to the replacement as well call them directly and they will make it right.
Guys just ordered the 5.11 tactical rush 24 in color black but I recently read some remarks that when you’re in a hot country with lots of sun that might actually cause your backpack’s color to fade…! Any thoughts on that? Do you think that these bags can really fade on a hot summer sun? Thanks✌️💪
Hmm, not sure. I do think it's possible because of the webbing and fabric style but then again it's nylon/polyester blend fabrics which usually does well in retaining the original color. Not a clear answer, I know, but reach out to 5.11 and let us know if this would be covered under warranty. They are very good with servicing their customers.
@@GabeCuello thanks yeah I’ll do that…! I mean it’s 5.11 and that means reliability on the overall experience…it should hold up…! By the way your review was amazing and very helpful!!
@@JoseAntonio-yp2fv thanks man!! I’m from Greece…so very similar weather✌️Now I can rest assure!! The backpack is truly amazing so far!! Very durable and very practical for all and I mean it all purposes!! 🤙
Ohh, that's a tough one since I don't skate. However, I do know that Under Armour has a Duffle/backpack hybrid backpack that will definitely work for you. It really depends on you in terms of style, color, additional activities, etc. Give it a look, I believe it's called the Contender. 45-50L bag. By the way, thanks for watching my video. I hope you find what you're looking for.
@@GabeCuello yeah I'm on a very similar mission as you were. I got sick with COVID and almost killed me. I would get winded walking to the store. I decided to get fit. I eat no processed sugar. Eat low carb, high protein diet as well as a lot vit D3, k2, zinc, magnesium. Exercise daily. I went from 260 to now under 200lbs in months. I plan on getting back into inline skating when the weather improves here in Canada. Still lots of snow. I want the right gear. I want a rugged tactical bag but one I can use for my skates to. I'm also into bush craft and prepping. So I enjoy your reviews and self improvement videos. Great work on your achievements. I look now like you did starting. I have a long way to go but I know it will work if I do the work. Thanks for replying and any advice will help or recommended videos. I will check out that UnderArmour bag since I wear a ton of that compression gear and clothing.
Dude, this made my day. I always LOVE hearing about other modern day warriors striving to be the example and seek self-improvement. And then the courage to share briefly on where youve been and are now. Thats awesome, man. May I give you a shout out in my next video?
@@GabeCuello I'd be honored. I am moved by your journey. I want to get to where you are fitness wise. I would love to be a part of that and all the amazing work your doing. Like I said it's men like yourself that help me stay motivated. Keep up the amazing work to help others get fit and improve there lives. I've never been happier. Even in my current state I'm healthier than I've been since I was in my 20s. I'm now in my 40s and I know I will be a happier and more productive person than I ever have been.
Both packs are nice. But after careful consideration, the First Tactical just offers more fore my needs. I love being organized and also being prepared. This is the larger pack (1Day+) but I realllly like the 1/2 day+. I've been behind on making videos but I'm covering this one very soon. In case you're interested.
Absolutely! Just for you too. I'd say expect it by the end of the month (the latest) with a shout out. I appreciateyour supportand patience. By the way, is there anything in mind you would like for me to cover?
Hi there! heres the link: www.amazon.com/FUNANASUN-Pouches-Tactical-Compact-Resistant/dp/B06XN5CW49/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=huanhuan+tactical+pouch&qid=1621967619&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWjVRODRVTzhPQlk4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODUyMzkwMVNKVkxBUU1HTENVVyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTg1NzkyM09JNUJKNDlNRFZIRCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Great Review. I own both and the First Tactical has quickly become the EDC. Grab some Maxpedition Zipper pulls (large and small), it makes a huge difference.
Yes! I don't have those exact zipper pulls but I did add my own (finger loop pulls) and it DOES make a huge difference. I really appreciate you watching this video and taking the time to comment.
Hey Warren, its First Tacticals Tactix Waist Belt. Around $35 on Amazon. Works on (few) other tactical backpacks as well. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel too.
@@ChasseurTueur could say so, i went with an older version of Sandpiper of California 3 day pass tan color, that was called Bugout Gear, i got it new from a soldier that served in afghanistan. Quality wise it's better than the new ones
I am biased... I think the Tactix 1day+ or 1/2 day plus are great options. HOWEVER, it is completely up to you and what your style, habits, and needs are. I know. Sometimes we just want a straightforward answer, but it really depends on you. Some say for real world applications (e.g., tactical use), the 5.11 is best. Imo, First Tactical Tactix is still a great contender, just lacks real world testing. For me, to this day, both Tactix backs are great. I love the 1/2day plus and both are awesome for traveling. The organizational features are just a game changer for me.
Damn, Full commando lol. I'm not that motivated or ready to sport that pack out. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I hope you're doing great.
Maybe I’m biased but the 5.11 is top tier. Edit: Honestly after watching the video the 5.11 is vastly superior. I own three 5.11 bags and they all perform great. I also own a Maxpedition so im not a 100% 5.11 fan boy but they’re a top brand for a reason. I suggest trying The Maxpedition line of bags as well as Vanquest Trident.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts. 5.11 is a great brand. The Rush 24 2.0 is a newer pack vs the Tactix 1 day plus (2016 model). I have also heard great great things about Maxpedition and Dragon Egg. The Tactix ended up being my choice only for the things I value (Ie., organization and rucking capacity). It's a solid backpack for those specific needs whereas mostly all the other tactical backpacks I've seen are "too tactical" (ie. focused on combat), do not offer waistbelt capabilities or organization capabilities which is why I ended up with Tactix 1 Day plus.
*_Who do you think won this battle? Was it a fair battle? Who should the Champ face next? Comment below!_*
I like the design of Tactix too but why is it so much more expensive than the First Tactical Specialist 1-Day or Rush 24?
Tactix is $190 vs $100-130 for the Specialist 1-Day. I even found one for $75 in tan color (sold by First Tactical). Even though i like Tactix better than Rush 24 i can't justify spending so much extra money, that's crazy...
I feel like FT Specialist 1-Day vs Rush 24 would've been a better comparison.
Very nice video, thanks!
Great Video and thanks for telling me about the First Tactixs waist belt, I didn't know that they have one
Hi Gabe, my name is Tim Wimberly and I am from San Diego, California and it’s nice to meet you. Nice and impressive video on both the 5.11 Rush24 2.0 and the First Tactics Backpacks. Let me get right to the point. I am retired U.S. Army Combat Trained Military Policeman that has seen and experienced a lot of military luggage that has been put through a lot of torture. 5.11 with their Tactical Backpacks and engineering designs can withstand the most austere environments. However First Tactics after Your demonstration video with them wins when it comes to load carrying factors and ergonomics for outdoor sports however I question its combat effectiveness and efficiency. I am 6ft. 150lbs and you are 5ft. 11 and 190lbs. Both manufacturers design military/tactical backpacks for different customers. First Tactics however does not business with one of the Biggest Military Luggage Retailers in the United States and that’s Military Luggage Company and they are based in Fayetteville, North Carolina contiguous to Joint Base Bragg/Pope Home of Various Specialized Units of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force and First Tactics products need to tested to U.S Department of Defense engineering standards (DARPA)at Ft. Irwin California and Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. I am a also a military luggage sustainment specialist and analyst that throws military luggage full of bricks and concrete off cliffs, ships, run over by heavy vehicles here in San Diego County California. To see if certain Military Luggage equipment can with combat environments on both sea, air and land. Overall Gabe You did a Great job on Your video just next time get more advice from the Professionals.
V/R
Tim Wimberly
Military Luggage Sustainment Analyst
And
U.S. Army Military Police (RET).
Indiana State University
M.S. B.S. and B.S.
Hey Tim, HOOAH!
Thanks for watching and commenting. On to addressing your points:
*_"I question its combat effectiveness and efficiency":_*
I would also. I have not used either packs, ever, for combat or anything of that nature. I too have seen and heard positive remarks of 5.11 on the field (e.g., Fort Irwin).
*_First Tactics however does not business with one of the Biggest Military Luggage Retailers in the United States and that’s Military Luggage Company and they are based in Fayetteville, North Carolina contiguous to Joint Base Bragg/Pope Home of Various Specialized Units of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force and First Tactics products need to tested to U.S Department of Defense engineering standards (DARPA)...:_*
This is good to know. I will say that First Tactical is a reputable company as well. Maybe not to the level of the military but is a sought out brand by both law enforcement and first responders.
*_Overall Gabe You did a Great job on Your video just next time get more advice from the Professionals_* .:
Again , thank you. As for asking advice, I wouldn't be sure on who or what to ask? The purpose of this video was to share a comparison of two high quality tactical backpacks that have some history together (owners), my intentions for buying them (i.e., Fitness, EDC, Travel, Rucking), my personal experiences, and to share some visuals as there aren't many out there. First Tactical "won" because it best suits my needs. That's all.
I am with you and agree to what many others have shared, 5.11 is a great brand and pack. Many who serve in the military or law enforcement may be using this backpack and speak highly towards it, however, under my categories, it just didn't deliver.
But going forward, at least we know that if there are questions on High Performing Tactical Backpacks, You're the guy that can help.
Thank you for your service Tim
And The Winner And Still Champion Of The World... Tactic 1 Day Plus!!! I have the 3-day Tactix and it kicks BUTT ;-)
I've used 5.11's backpacks, especially the Rush 24, for many years but I'm waaay more happy with the Tactix One day. The features are vastly superior and it looks way better thanks to the laser cut webbing. The One Day has completely replaced both my Rush 24 and 12 and I'm also thinking of buying the 3 Day to replace my rush 72.
considering the price and what you get for your money i think the 5.11 is the better deal and i prefer the looks of it
My choice is 5.11. I own Rush 72 maybe six years and that thing is great for caring my stuf and absolutely immortal. So I'm planing bought little brother. Next thing I like it's little smaller and better in keeping shape than First tactical.
But still... You make really great video. 👍
Both packs looks like a great choice, but Im gonna go with the 5.11. Ive bought gear from 3rd party companies in the past and they tend to disappear from the market and offer no support. 5.11 has been around for a long time and that adds to the brand as a whole.
Not going anywhere. The original owners of 5.12 sold 5.11 and started FT 🔥
I agree with you. I married 5.11 but right now I think there are better options on the market.
I’m a backpack addict and have a hard time comparing. I appreciate all of them as their own entity. In that respect each one has their specific purpose. I’m a big fan of 5.11 and most of my bags are 5.11 or Maxpedition. However, I’ve never heard of first tactical before and from this review it looks like it may be a quality pack. I think I’ll pick a tactix and try it out. Good vid 👍
Right on! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel.
Keep me posted on what you get (e.g., halfday plus or 1 day plus) and your thoughts behind it.
The (drain) holes in the First Tactical are a deal breaker for me. It totally defeats the purpose of using water resistant material. Water, snow, mud and dirt comes inside the bag through the drain holes - you can never put your bag on the ground.
As the user of the first version of rush 24, I have to admit that I like it for it’s brutal simplicity. I can see how it was designed to dump either a box of ammo or your weekly shopping into the main compartment. It’s not over engineered, yet vastly sensible.
One thing to note is that your back will get really sweaty on a hot day due to lack of any ventilation.
Awesome video! Very thorough & fair comparison. Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either one. They kinda have the same genetics in a sense.
I tend to refer to First Tactical as 5.11 Junior because they both have great products that are kinda made by the same people. Both companies were started by Dan Costa. He started 5.11 in 2003 and First Tactical in 2015. The end result is you’re getting a quality product no matter which one you choose.
100% agree. I know people are loyalists to brands. Im one of them with Under Armour lol.
But all in all, just wanted to share some great gear in hopes to help others on their buying decision.
Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel :)
@@GabeCuello Before I forget, the very top loop on the straps of the RUSH are not for the sternum straps. It’s actually for holding the straw on your hydration pack. 👍🏽
I think both are great bags. The first tactical does have better organization and looks.
After owning both, I have to say I slightly prefer the 5.11 base on the carry system. To me the yoke strap is much more comfortable than the first tactical. The lack of waist belt don't really bother me none because I use it to replace the assault pack that the army issued me. I only find waist belt useful if I'm carrying a rucksack with heavy loads.
With that being said, I take the 5.11 when I go to the field and any missions. But for everything else, I take the first tactical.
Great review 👍👍
Right on! Thanks for watching and commenting. Given what you said, it makes sense and I do agree about the Rush's level of comfort. The material just feels newer in material & better on me vs. the Tactix.
I think it's better if we can easily put one ourselves, like we can with 5.11.
Ive seen way too many shitty waist belts that are built in, so i prefer the option for me to pick one i like and put it in like i can with the rush. Haven't done it yet, but i know sometime in the near future i will be on the hunt for a good waist belt for it. stay safe.
Ive had 2x rush 72, one the straps wore out after 10 years, the other I sold to get a smaller bag. Bought a rush 24, got stolen, bought another one. Great bags. I think next ill get a first tactical half day plus next. I carry less now. Its my edc, permanently setup as a bushcraft, bob, inconvenient camping kit, work bag etc. thanks for the review
Tactix for the win! 🥳
Fantastic comparison, brilliant format!
Incredibly comprehensive and informative. Thank you for spending the time and posting. Helped me finalize my decision to buy First Tactical.
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Thank you so much for the kind words and support. You are welcome.
How do you not have more subscribers? This was another incredible review!
I'm still a "toddler" in this field. I suppose with time, I'll earn more amazing people like you to support my channel and direction.
Lots to come for sure!
I don't trust the shoulder straps on first tactical over 5.11 for long term.
I've had my First Tactical for almost 3 years, it's been packed full of water bottles, muddy clothing, wet towles, etc ive taken it up mountins, in caves, through rain storms and baking sun, 114f to -11f its never missed a beat. Trust me its solid.
Great comparison thanks, I have already got the Rush 12, its the best pack Ive had but based on this review , am gonna take a chance & give the Tactix a try, at the same time I know that if I went for the Rush 24, it would be superb too !. Thanks
I have them both in front of me now... I am not sure if I like the rush 24 better because I am familiar with it however I really wanted to like the First Tactical however the sunglass pocket was so shallow and the missing water bladder portion was not there. I also like the CCW pocket being velcro because the zipper is hard to get to and also everybody will know there is something inside the bag instead of the pocket being almost hidden in the Rush 24. I am still deciding what one to keep.
I know how challenging it might be lol. That's why I did this video. One of my hardest ones yet. Both bags offer so much and yet it's all a matter of preference and purpose.
I do like my Tactix but I also wish they work on some modifications for their next one. If they decide to do that.
Either way, you don't lose. Both are great. But do let me know which one you end up with, please :D
@@GabeCuello I ended up returning the first tactical 1 day plus bag for the first tactical tatix half day bag. I also decided to keep the rush 24.. however I love all the attachment packs & accessories first tactical offers. I have a week left to return the rush 24.
I am really contemplating going all in on First Tactical now that I know Dan Costa CEO was the original owner of 511. I originally purchased the Rush 72, 24 & 12.. however when I discovered First Tactical I returned the Rush 12 for a first Tactical bag.. and now I’m thinking of going all in on all 3 sizes Tactix bags from First Tactical.
@@GabeCuello I ended up buying the half day plus First Tactical Tatix… I also kept the rush 24 as well. Now I want the one day plus now that I am used to it.
Felicidades, muy buen video. Para cuando una revision o comparativa de la firts tactical 3 dias? Gracias y un saludo desde Barcelona 👍🏼
I'm a die hard 5.11 both I own love them both
511 All Day..100% winner
511 does have a belt kit for sale its 20 bucks and made for the loops they have on the bag
They’re seriously a joke if you plan on using them for an actual load. but they’re handy for most packs that have a dual slot d ring. I have them on a bunch of my lower end bags and they are great for light loadouts. I love 5.11…the lack of modular acceptance of an actual hip belt was the deal breaker for any of their tactical bags for me.
I just wish the 1day was a darker black like the 511 but no biggie. I like that it has no U shped shoulder strap
Another great review. I like the way you compared both packs. Keep the reviews coming!!
Hey! Thank you :D Hope you're doing great.
I rather go with the 5.11
Gabe this comparison was very good. thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the comparison video. I'm going with the 5.11 bro. Get some patches for your bags!!!
Right on, man. Get some!
Hey Man, great video
I ordered a Rush 2.0 a few days ago, cant wait to get it. (got a second hand Rush 24 1.0 last year)
One thing i wanted to point out, 5.11 does offer a waist belt now, as an separate purchase for 20$ on their website.
Yes, I've seen that in store. Looks interesting, but not something I'm fully bought in.
@@GabeCuello Fair enough, its just it felt like a bit point in the video so I just wanted to shed some light. I do agree it should have come with from the get go.
nice video, that was a nice touch having yourself twice atthe same time
Hey! Thank you. It was tricky but figured I make it fun and engaging.
Thanks for watching!
Looking for a review on the 5.11 pack and found your vid. I dig the channel. Subscribed. Cheers 🤙🏽
Thanks a ton!
Great review video one these two bags. I have 2 Rush bags the 12 & 24 but after watching you video I am going to take a hard look at the First Tactical bag. FT makes great stuff, I wear their V2 pants and really like the fit. Thanks for the great review. You have a new Subscriber here.😎 2A💪
Thanks man! Glad you liked it.
You didn't even comment or score on the comfort and handling a heavy load, you just jumped to the final score. It looked like the weight was protruding from the bottom of the First Tactical pack. I'm not sure how comfortable or durable that would be in the long run. It looks like the 5.11 Rush 24 is the better pack for rucking with weights. I wished you would have compared how each pack felt with the weights.
First tactical Yes it does have a lap top section
Awesome review! Well done! Thanks for the breakdown.
Totally welcome! Thanks for watching!
The backpack that is reasonable to compare with Rush 24 2.0 is the Specialist 1-day, not the Tactix 1-day plus. You also didn't include the price for comparison. The specialist 1-day being the cheapest, Rush 24 2.0 being in the middle, and the Tactix 1-day plus being the most expensive of the three.
You're like comparing Smartphone A with Smartphone B+ instead of Smartphone B.
Although the Tactix looks better imo I'd have to go with the rush, its built better and has less gimmicks. I compared both at the store (ended up purchasing the rush72), I also found the zippers on the tactix to be more finicky. In short, the tactix was trying to do too many things at once while the rush kept things sturdy, reliable and straight forward. The rush72 also comes with the stow-away pouch and is built with heavier duty material. The rush was also about 100 dollars cheaper so there's that too.
What the 5.11 Rush was $100 cheaper? What I have seen they both are about the same price point. I do own 2 Rush bags, Rush 12 & 24 and I'm happy with them. I do like the look of the First Tactical and I'm going to take a very close look at one today.
@@d10dozerman2 On Amazon, the Tactix is $200 and the Rish 24 2.0 is $135. $65 difference.
Built better? You don’t even own both? You gathered that from playing with them for a few minutes?
Hahaha, y’all people are hilarious!
I'm not sure who you're responding too but I figured I'd let you and maybe my viewers know that I still own the Tactix 1day+, 1/2day+, and their Specialist 1/2day backpack's.
Might do an update video, too, since I haven't been on here for some time.
I genuinely like them, so yes, I still own them. They have been holding up very well, too. First Tactical isn't sponsoring me or paying me for these reviews either.
As my videos suggest, their backpacks simply align with 'my goals'. 5.11's 2.0 Rush backpacks are great. In fact, I had owned their Rush 12 2.0 for a couple of months. Really nice backpack. However, it just wasn't working for me, so I traded it in.
I prefer the first tsctical over the 5.11 BUT. For me the 5.11 is more suitable for me. Mainly my o ly gripe with the first tac is that the shoulder strap and back panel are mesh instead of plain nylon. When I wore the first tacticalack the mesh got destroyed i no time by wearing it and it rubbing against my chest rig
I can see that happening. The mesh material is pretty rough. We'll, I'm glad you came by and found something best suited for your needs.
You are the MF’n Man! 5.11 refuses to provide a waist belt for no applicable reason. Will the first tactical belt work on a 5.11 rush 24? I ruck, therefore it’s important to my training to have one supporting that weight. Keep up the outstanding work man.
Hey man, thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
Sadly, the waist belt dose not work with Rush 24. Even the smaller sized straps. I tried lol. It may work by appearance but not in functionality.
There's a Fire force waist belt on Amazon that works with all rush packs i think
Sounds interesting. Might look into that. Thanks for stopping by and supporting the channel. Stay motivated.
Great review can you review 5.11 amp12/24 please
Hey Gabe, thanks so much for this review....I have been a die hard 5.11 user for like 8 years.....I got the R24...2.0 and within 3 months the stitching on the shoulder straps started to come apart just a little.....so I went all out watched reviews and thought I would give this pack a try. I am up in Canada and travel in the FAR north 140 - 150 Days a year.....and Have dragged my 5.11's to hell and back....I notice that on the First Tactical the shoulder straps are actually removable....wow! do you know if you can get spar shoulder straps?....reason I ask, is like the other dude said, that meshy stuff doesn't look super durable?....weird considering everything else seems to be like Bomb proof....have you heard, or have has any issues with premature wear of that stuff? thoughts? thanks man and great review.
Hey! Thanks for watching my review. It totally sounds like you be gettin some out there. That's awesome!
As for the straps: 1) I honestly don't think they sell spare shoulder straps. Please reach out to First Tactical directly for that info though. 2) I have done a few miles with the Tactix (loaded with 30-45lbs) and have had no issues with durability. Yes, they are a bit rough in texture (I sometimes hike with tank top and get aggressive skin rubs) but they are durable for me at least.
The waist belt is (imo) what makes this backpack complete and freakn awesome. I bring that up because without it, the hikes and loaded carries might just be a bit fatiguing on the shoulders/traps over the long hauls.
I know it's not much for a clear answer but I hope it works out for you. I'd also suggest buying a set of adjustable straps too (which they sell as a pair for $12 I think). They can come in handy.
The comparison is not much correct. The Tactix backpack is not bad, but it costs twice as much as 5.11 Rush
does any1 know what month the restock happens for the tactix?
I have a rush 24. I want a FT because of better waist belt. However its hard to buy a FT in Poland.
You could email the company directly to see if they are willing to work with you.
They have done amazing things for their customers before. They even ship two day shipping when you order on Amazon.
I believe the waist belt is currently going for $39.99.
If you’re in Poland, you should definitely check out the direct action dragon egg enlarged 30L backpack. They are made in Poland.
The sternum strap got caught on the thin mesh and tore the mesh easily after the first day using it. I adjusted the strap while wearing the pack with about 15 lbs of weight. I got a replacement on the way via AMZ however this is not a good sign.. do you have any issues like this? The mesh on the straps is so thin you can see the white padding inside. Do you think that’s normal? This is for the first tactical tactix half day pack.-- update I spoke with FT customer service. They said this is a very rare occurrence and they don’t get many calls for this issue. She said it’s covered for a year and if it happens to the replacement as well call them directly and they will make it right.
Never had that issue. I'm sure they will be very willing to assist you.
@@GabeCuello glad to hear!
Guys just ordered the 5.11 tactical rush 24 in color black but I recently read some remarks that when you’re in a hot country with lots of sun that might actually cause your backpack’s color to fade…! Any thoughts on that? Do you think that these bags can really fade on a hot summer sun? Thanks✌️💪
Hmm, not sure. I do think it's possible because of the webbing and fabric style but then again it's nylon/polyester blend fabrics which usually does well in retaining the original color.
Not a clear answer, I know, but reach out to 5.11 and let us know if this would be covered under warranty. They are very good with servicing their customers.
@@GabeCuello thanks yeah I’ll do that…! I mean it’s 5.11 and that means reliability on the overall experience…it should hold up…! By the way your review was amazing and very helpful!!
Right on, thank you!
I have a rush 24 black for 5 years, i'm from Spain (hot and sun), and no problem, the color of the backpack is like the first day.
@@JoseAntonio-yp2fv thanks man!! I’m from Greece…so very similar weather✌️Now I can rest assure!! The backpack is truly amazing so far!! Very durable and very practical for all and I mean it all purposes!! 🤙
You left out the shovel
any advice for a good bag to carry my inline skates? also a bag that will be a great skate bag , not to hot? maybe hydration pack capable?
Ohh, that's a tough one since I don't skate. However, I do know that Under Armour has a Duffle/backpack hybrid backpack that will definitely work for you.
It really depends on you in terms of style, color, additional activities, etc. Give it a look, I believe it's called the Contender. 45-50L bag.
By the way, thanks for watching my video. I hope you find what you're looking for.
@@GabeCuello yeah I'm on a very similar mission as you were. I got sick with COVID and almost killed me. I would get winded walking to the store. I decided to get fit. I eat no processed sugar. Eat low carb, high protein diet as well as a lot vit D3, k2, zinc, magnesium. Exercise daily. I went from 260 to now under 200lbs in months. I plan on getting back into inline skating when the weather improves here in Canada. Still lots of snow. I want the right gear. I want a rugged tactical bag but one I can use for my skates to. I'm also into bush craft and prepping. So I enjoy your reviews and self improvement videos. Great work on your achievements. I look now like you did starting. I have a long way to go but I know it will work if I do the work. Thanks for replying and any advice will help or recommended videos. I will check out that UnderArmour bag since I wear a ton of that compression gear and clothing.
Dude, this made my day. I always LOVE hearing about other modern day warriors striving to be the example and seek self-improvement.
And then the courage to share briefly on where youve been and are now. Thats awesome, man.
May I give you a shout out in my next video?
@@GabeCuello I'd be honored. I am moved by your journey. I want to get to where you are fitness wise. I would love to be a part of that and all the amazing work your doing. Like I said it's men like yourself that help me stay motivated. Keep up the amazing work to help others get fit and improve there lives. I've never been happier. Even in my current state I'm healthier than I've been since I was in my 20s. I'm now in my 40s and I know I will be a happier and more productive person than I ever have been.
Great vid. Honest. I have 511 2.0 and 72 it works. Bit I like the other pack
Both packs are nice. But after careful consideration, the First Tactical just offers more fore my needs. I love being organized and also being prepared.
This is the larger pack (1Day+) but I realllly like the 1/2 day+. I've been behind on making videos but I'm covering this one very soon. In case you're interested.
First Tactical half day tatix . video come soon?
Absolutely! Just for you too. I'd say expect it by the end of the month (the latest) with a shout out. I appreciateyour supportand patience.
By the way, is there anything in mind you would like for me to cover?
感谢你的分享!
5:27 cen u link me this black with mole pautch?
Hi there! heres the link: www.amazon.com/FUNANASUN-Pouches-Tactical-Compact-Resistant/dp/B06XN5CW49/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=huanhuan+tactical+pouch&qid=1621967619&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWjVRODRVTzhPQlk4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODUyMzkwMVNKVkxBUU1HTENVVyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTg1NzkyM09JNUJKNDlNRFZIRCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
First tactical is definitely better not only because i am Ambasador for them them lol the first tactical gear just built cleaner
Awesome
Great Review. I own both and the First Tactical has quickly become the EDC. Grab some Maxpedition Zipper pulls (large and small), it makes a huge difference.
Yes! I don't have those exact zipper pulls but I did add my own (finger loop pulls) and it DOES make a huge difference.
I really appreciate you watching this video and taking the time to comment.
What waist belt did you attach on the first tactical?
Hey Warren, its First Tacticals Tactix Waist Belt. Around $35 on Amazon. Works on (few) other tactical backpacks as well.
Hope this helps. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel too.
How are you liking the half day tactix?
man the FT isn't even available no more
"man the FT isn't even available no more" wow, so its another plus for Tactix :)
@@ChasseurTueur could say so, i went with an older version of Sandpiper of California 3 day pass tan color, that was called Bugout Gear, i got it new from a soldier that served in afghanistan. Quality wise it's better than the new ones
for about 130$ what 38liter + bp is the best?
I am biased... I think the Tactix 1day+ or 1/2 day plus are great options.
HOWEVER, it is completely up to you and what your style, habits, and needs are. I know. Sometimes we just want a straightforward answer, but it really depends on you.
Some say for real world applications (e.g., tactical use), the 5.11 is best. Imo, First Tactical Tactix is still a great contender, just lacks real world testing.
For me, to this day, both Tactix backs are great. I love the 1/2day plus and both are awesome for traveling. The organizational features are just a game changer for me.
Try an ALICE pack
Damn, Full commando lol. I'm not that motivated or ready to sport that pack out.
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I hope you're doing great.
Maybe I’m biased but the 5.11 is top tier.
Edit: Honestly after watching the video the 5.11 is vastly superior.
I own three 5.11 bags and they all perform great. I also own a Maxpedition so im not a 100% 5.11 fan boy but they’re a top brand for a reason.
I suggest trying The Maxpedition line of bags as well as Vanquest Trident.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts.
5.11 is a great brand. The Rush 24 2.0 is a newer pack vs the Tactix 1 day plus (2016 model).
I have also heard great great things about Maxpedition and Dragon Egg.
The Tactix ended up being my choice only for the things I value (Ie., organization and rucking capacity). It's a solid backpack for those specific needs whereas mostly all the other tactical backpacks I've seen are "too tactical" (ie. focused on combat), do not offer waistbelt capabilities or organization capabilities which is why I ended up with Tactix 1 Day plus.
......lighten up bro
I'm not tracking what you mean.
But thanks for watching!
wow, what a waste of time, that didnt make any sense
Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel, Chasseur.