Classic WoW Hunter PvE Guide (Talents, Rotation, Consumables, etc.) | Classic WoW Guide
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- A full Classic WoW Hunter PvE Guide.
Timestamps:
00:31 Race Selection
01:41 Professions
04:04 Talents and Builds
04:53 Stats and Gear
06:22 World Buffs and Consumables
08:44 Pets
09:26 Rotation and Cooldowns
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Thanks to Cadet for helping with this. More to come soon!!!
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Tips Out how about Rogue
@@TipsOutBaby Warlock next please
Druid next please.
please make a rogue pve/pvp guide
Pretty on point guide
Only two things I would have mentioned was the importance of getting a 3 second attack speed bow to match the cast time of aimed shot so you don't clip an auto shot
Also the rotation changes as a troll.
When you cast berserk and rapid fire at the same time its best to leave aimed shot out of the rotation and just spam auto shot and multi shot.
Plus snarler is a good raiding wolf pet option because he has the strongest resistance stats in the game.
ye agree with pet choice coz pets in vanilla die pretty easy in boss AOE damage
Thanks for the input man!
Your aimed shot gets faster as well with attack speed buffs so I dont see why you wouldnt use aimed shot 🤔
As a troll - shouldn't you also use Arcane shot when you drop Aimed shot during the buffed phase?
I found that 3 seconds isnt needed, just something slower than 1.6sec. This will have aimed shot replace one of the autoshots, which aimed shot hits harder.
The quality of the videos went up. Good stuff
And remember always use growl on your pet no matter what./s
Kapp
Especially in MC and never dismiss you're pet even while jumping off cliffs.
I hope you realise that I will be coming back to this video multiple times in prep for and during classic. Thanks Tip. Its exactly what I needed.
My first character was a rogue, but my second (was my main) was a dwarf hunter. I thought the dwarf in the cinematic was cool and I always wanted a pet.
I had a bear, but later found out that other animals had different abilities, and stats. In the end i settled with a turtle which was a blackfathoms deep boss, ghoom’ra. Shell shield ability was great for tanking elites. Yep. Gimlibronze that was that hunters name. Lol silly name. Good times though.
Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide ❤️
1-10 moonfire. 10-20 bear-bear-bear-heal-bear-bear... 20-60 cat-cat-cat-heal-cat-cat-cat heal repeat
8:30 Major Mana Potions are so good you repeated them twice :)
DM tribute buff doesnt help for Range Attack power =/
As a guy who mained hunter in vanilla (tho just got rank 12 gear due to time) and saw the video with Cadet. This is just making me long for it's release even more! But thanks for uploading this. Due to all the consumables you need I find that engeneering and alchy is a good choice. As I plan to use my main alt (not the lvl 5 banker) as a mage teleporting around the world and collect the mats I need for my main (ores and flowers) and not to forget able to aoe farm better if I am chasing after a recipe or just gold farm. Not that hunter is bad on his own but mage brings so much more when it comes to famring and TP as you please.
But good point to invest in skinning early on to boost your income when leveling up. Some say 2nd should be either mining to keep/sell ores or tailoring to make your own good slotted bags and when possible, sell some as you go. Since you will have some cloth leftovers from your first aid. Other then that, this video is pretty much spot on. Love your work and love for making these videos man. Keep up the good work! Ohh and +1 ofc =)
EDIT: Good call on the races as well, most important playing any mmo, play what YOU want. It's an RPG after all. Play X class with Y spec just because it happens to be the "best" might grow boring after a while, and you'll end up rerolling (again?). For me personally, I select my race depending on animations, like the "feel" of it, attack/spell effects and what I want to use it for it, how gear looks etc. I will most likely focus on pvp. Meaning having that Shadowmeld with a stealthed cat as a base defender is invaluable, or if you just prefer to hide around and ambush ppl on the road or in the open. Thanks agian.
vXCozmoz Thanks for this comment!
Hello i don’t understand what you mean with 9% hitcap and what talent build you should use. Someone pls help idk what to spec in. I basically want to solo PVE and use beasts and as high as possible damage output
Major Mana Potions, Demonic Runes, Major Mana Potions .... i just guess the 2nd should be mageblood elixir
also brilliant mana oil for mana
regent and enchant bracer for MP5 if want
Everything is A Hunter Prio weapon. Damn you Dal rends
well ya, dalrend is a great hunter weapon, just as much as it is for melee's :P
Just cuz it has high base damage doesnt remove the stat bonus on both of them, or the set bonus.
Goes the other way around aswell, the amount of times rogues and warriors dare to touch our bis ranged weapons or pre-raid bis ranged weapons is annoying aswell.
Anti-Venom up to level 25.
Doesn't have much use at 60.
This couldn't have come at a better time. I literally just rolled a hunter on Kronos 3 yesterday.
Love your videos, Tip! The editing on this video was really well done too. Great job!
Waiting for everyone of these mate, i really want to roll more than 2 classes (the ones i rolled at the time vanilla was live) this time, with the increased coscience of the game i got in the years, so wanna roll and maximize everything i can!
Meanwhile, thank you for your amazing work!
No mention of raptor strike?. When aimshot and multishot are on CD you have a small window where you can run into melee raptor strike and still make it back out and not clip an auto shot. While it's very difficult and only viable in some situations; it does offer a 40-60dps increase.
Gun specialization is better than bow specialization because bow specialization doesn't affect crossbows. All bis items are crossbows and guns are next in line, the only decent bow in the entire game is the onyxia quest bow which is only on par with tier 1 and not as slow as you'd like.
answered all my questions. good work!
Is crit not more important the agi? (Pre-raid gear)
No matter on what buff is on you?
Ben told , that hunters depends on crit to buff your own dps.
Brings back some good memories from my vanilla hunter. Rolling around with Broken Tooth and Crossbow of Smiting from BWL in BGs, just straight up deleting casters.
cant wait to classic to be out :) i been playing for over 14 years now, i started 3 months prior bc and never had the cahnce to xp full vanilla im really exicted, ty tips for all the guides.
How does hardiness work is it an additional 25% on your existing chance to avoid stuns ( only 1-2% extra) or is it normal chance to avoid stuns +25% extra overall chance. Will I even notice orcs hardiness if I take it? If you know, please respond. Thanks
Can multi shot clip auto shot?
You can't use juju flurry as it puts your rapid fire on CD, but overall a well informed guide.
I always preferred Troll hunter to other races.. but also always been told Orc is BIS for hunter due to Beserking scaling with your current HP situation. What is correct?
Bookmarked come classic. Great video as always brother
thanks man
I just want to ask 2 things.
One, why none talks about survival talent tree that maximizes the crit chance with lightning reflexes and killer instinct.
Two, what's the case of support Hunter with the nightfall turn?
You dont get a nightfall hunter for the dps really but for the buff that he is the most effective class to proc it with a spam every 1 sec he can get pretty big amount of those on a boss fight for the rest of the run you are a humble hunter doing ranged damage none mentioned melee hunter but nightfal hunter nor the survival hunter has anything to do with melee hunter but actually there is a talent path maximizing your crit chance through survival talents.
@@mr.voidroy6869 I believe the logic is give nightfall to a low dps raid member and not a warrior who can top the dps charts with an arms/fury build, hence why shamans pallys and hunters will usually sport the nightfall. [Hunter's preffered because they can get a melee attack in every gcd with wingclip.
DM:N buff for AP doesn't apply to ranged does it.... the only buff worth it from DM:N is maybe the health one i thought.
Something that I feel should be mentioned here, particularly if people are watching that haven't actually played vanilla before: For your second primary profession, if you do choose engineering, just be aware that you're going to be hard pressed to actually level engineering to max without mining. Considering you're going to want to be saving up while you level to be able to afford your mounts, skill training, etc., by not coupling engineering with mining you're going to be spending a LOT of gold for materials.
Engineering without mining would be a nightmare to work.
@@matthewburroughs9597 Even with mining was a nightmare.
He left out the most important part of being a hunter which is to farm maraudon and DM
good vid, cant wait for a priest guide
In the end it all doesnt fucking matter. People back in vanilla had no idea what are they doing and they still cleared all the content.
More classic content is always better! Even though i already watched every class guide a couple of times by different people i still watch the next one 😂
Great production quality btw! 👍
I have watched almost everything you make, but this is just on another level of quality. My hats off to you Tip keep up the great work!
DMT buffs are definitely not more important than Zandalar. DMT is melee attack power only.
honest thought: Just curious as to what criteria supports being labeled "The best Classic WoW hunter in the world."
Especially since classic ain't out.
Great guide Tip. I think you've helped me settle on a race/class combo for classic. Now all that's left is the waiting...
Wow, well done guide and very nice editing! Keep up the INSANE quality! :)
Definitely playing Hunter again in Classic, saving this to watch at home later. Thanks!
Shout out to the Orc for hunter. Decent racials in pet Damage and melee damage active (can be useful in certain moments), as well as a crazy stun resist racial for PvP.
No you dont have to go engi :) Bullshit. it gives you a advantage but realy not needed.
Do you guys think orc hunter is good? I leveled him up to 19 now and im pretty happy about it. And which profesdions should i choose?
Leatherworking and skinning are you safest and best options
Fantastic video - thank you so much for making this! This was incredibly helpful for me.
I believe the lvl50 class quests came out after Dire Maul, so if you do not include DM loot
(Backwood Helmet/Ogre forged Hauberk/Tarnished Elven Ring(s)/Barbaric Blade/Bracers of the Exclipse/Warpwood Binding/Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas), you'll have to exclude Devilsaur Eye too.
Also,
Windreaver Greaves (Scholo Gargoyle Boss) and Mongoose Boots (crafted) for feet are better
Cadaverous Armor (Scholomance) and Black Dragonscale Breastplate (with Shoulder for +1 hit) are a good choice as well as if you cant get your hands on the ubrs shoulders, which are heavily contened by rogues, warriors, other hunters and possibly druids/shamans/paladins.
Also (if stats are changed to str/agi/stam: Gladiators chain from brd arena runs.
Also ST can drop Atal'ai Breastplate, which has 22ap fixed plus random bonuses like
falcon/monkey/tiger/wolf (16-17 agi plus other stat), agility(25-26), power(50-52 ap)
As for rings, Blackstone Ring is easily farmable as hunter and afaik better than the zg ring. If av is out at/shortly after launch, farming the exalted ring would be good, too, since rings are heavily contested and chances are you wont get ANY AT ALL.
Also DW is generally the way to go because of 2x 15agi enchants vs 1x 25agi on a 2h.
Dalrend set is pre raid BiS afaik, but hard to get. Alternatively 2x Bone Slicing Hatchets/Dawns Edges
Ranged Weapon BiS should mention Black Crow (hit), Dwarven Hand Cannon (lots of dps) and Bloodseeker (AV quest, and absolute pre BiS weapon)
In terms of roation, afaik you should leave a small window after your Aimed Shot to allow an Shot in, and THEN cast Multi Shot.
4:23
Nice 0-31-18, we save the last 2 talent points for WoW 2
I think this guide is very high production quality and I'm a big fan of Tips Out. But who exactly is the target audience for this guide? It's labeled as a PvE guide but seem to only focus on lvl 60 raid content? And yet it spends time stating completely noob related stuff like: going over which races can play the class, and explaining that hunter traps are useful for cc and kiting. I seriously doubt any hunter that has played for months and finally dinged 60 and is now looking for a PvE guide will learn anything from this that they didn't already know - apart from maybe the section about world buffs and consumables. I mean who on earth is gonna be "Trolls have increased bow skill??? COOL! I'm gonna roll a troll hunter now! OH WAIT, lemme write that list of world buffs and consumables down so I have it when I ding 60"
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I love how you speak slowly, not like rest of them like someone chasing them
Do hunters ever down-rank multishot? max rank is 320 mana for 150 bonus dmg, rank one is basically an autoshot for 100 mana (no bonus dmg). No way in hell is it worth it if you have to feign to drink mid fight.
So I'm a bit confused. In Classic WOW everyone started with no money. If you choose Engineering you would have to take Mining. You don't have money to buy mats off the AH! I know I've been playing Classic WOW since it released, and all my hunters have taken the combo. I guess you could switch to something else later, but I'm not sure why any player would do that.
You've gotten alot better editing videos. Grats man
I like all the content you make for vanilla, but im not sure why you use so much rising inflection at the end of every couple words. Literally listen to the first 10 sentences of the video and it just goes uuuUPP annnd DDoowwN. It's probably because youre reading from a script and it feels that way instead of someone just talking normally.
So sad that hunters like other interesting classes with challenging rotation were gimped end game.
No matter how good you were on your rotation, how godlike your micromanagement was, you were brought to raids as a tranq bot!
I guess spamming one spell was more skilled if you were a mage...
For me the biggest mistake made by blizzard is the early release of TBC before vanilla was polished. Unfinished zones, limited debuffs (that were fixed in TBC because they couldnt change the code early enough), gimped specs and trash itemisation.
just a comment for pets, forgot to mention need tame a wolf in LBRS for Furious Howl Rank 4, and loads work for learn ability pets on leveling, no all pets have same rank ability on tame, hunter need find loads pets for hight rank also hunter in vanilla can have max 3 pets, two in stable and one carried, for the rest nice guide!
I can’t find any videos about BM hunters in pvp. We’re they good? And if so. How good? Also raiding as a BM hunter possible at all?
just curiuos if its strictly about more dps than why use a talent point on scatter shot? instead of improv mark? is it just such a small increase that the utility of scatter shot out weights?
Can anybody confirm that it´s viable to use a thorium granade when Aimed and Multishot are on cooldown? Is the cast time of the granade woth it? Can you use one thorium grenate between the autos and is it woth to give up range (and ttherefore safety and damage avoidance) to throw it?
aaaand dwarves with +5gun skill? damn i need an updated video with correct info 💀
Nice guide! Im New in wow and i take skining and leatherworking for my Hunter 😁
the "0 31 18 build" ...u wot? i might be jumping the gun here but has this error been acknowledged anywhere
irrelevent comment but i really like the way you talk. like pronouncing and such. is english your native language ?
also when wow classic finally arrives is there a chance you can take me into your guild ? i would like to know. thanks !
Isn't a wolf superior by far in pve due to the howl increasing the dmg of your aimed shot? Also, no love for the survival pve build after x amount of agility?
So when if I want go dwarf Hunter, engineering is only way in pve? Thought about LW cuz i love it but want to do best dps tho...
Nice video! Keep it up!
Also it's very important to mention Hunter's basic and situational Macros.
Check a channel 'Raziya the Ravager', he is an extremely skilled hunter, there you can find hunter's tutorials(such as movement, kiting and so on)+tips&tricks. Absolutely recommended for those who want to master the class and to know all of its capabilities.
Love the guide, can’t wait to see the other classes!
I remember there being a 1h sword from one of the dire mauls that had +AP vs elementals. If you are looking for strictly best pre-raid gear to go into an MC raid with, duel wielding these was the max possible ap vs MC bosses/trash. I was never able to confirm if these effected range ap vs elementals though, so perhaps Cadet could clarify.
Update: Here we go. Weapon name is Fiendish Machete, with +5 agility and +36 AP when fighting elementals. wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Fiendish_Machete
In addition, you can enchant each of these swords with +15 agility, as opposed to +25 agility on a single 2h weapon.
Oh tips, giving those tips on the easiest class! Oh damn that rotation is one of the most complex! Just because they're the easiest level doesn't mean their end game isn't 10x more complicated.
btw one of the big reasons to get engineering as a hunter is you can fain death and use jumper cables to add another wiper prevention method
Need to do a Priest one :
What are your thoughts on using the 0/21/30 talent build for pve?
I seem to recall the spec that actually did the most damage was 21 Marksmanship and 30 Survival.
Been a long time but I do think this was the spec that scaled the best with agility and did the most damage if you cherry picked your gear even at the expense of wearing some leather pieces.
Nice to see you mention Lupos, his bite doing shadow damage did ignore armor and made him a force to be reckon with!
so you gu into a aoe rotation with sapper and oil but you dont touch on melee weaving for horde????
orc hunter for pvp, better than troll - dwarf aswell better than NE, your welcome
I wanted to play dwarf with gun. You saying bows are BIS. So guns are useless?
no, dwarven hand cannon is pre-raid BiS. you'll have 305 weapon skill as a dwarf. dwarf is imo better choice than nelf since you also have stoneform which allows you to gank the gazillion UD rogues out there with no problem. but yeah the best of the best weapons are bows, but you'll have the same skill as nelf with them. so makes no difference.
You should put an auto shot between the aimshot and mulitshot
I literally downloaded Classic and made a hunter today...... Are you kidding me dude?! Subbed.
arent pets attacks all normalised now in 1.12 ?
Why do people call, abilities, cooldowns? its confusing.
>Lupos
_Warlock screams since Lupos consumes the crit Sbolt debuff on every hit lowering their DPS_
No it doesn't. Check any server.
gnomish or goblin engineering for Nelf Hunter?
instead of telling me to screen shot .. your talent builds, what i want to hear is 'you can check them in the info down below' and actually place it there. Keep going with the good stuff.
what about the Attack power +40 bonuses ... Attack Power > Agility? or the other way around?
14 RAP is equal to 1 dps. 1 agility gives 2 RAP (pre 2.0.1), crit chance, dodge, and armor. I would think agility would benefit more because of the crit... It takes 53 AGI to get 1% crit for hunters
Later on the did away with RAP and just normalized everything to AP that opened up options for items without stats that had ap
good shit, can we get one for each class pls?
Skulkesyk Andersen Thats the plan :)
For the dps rotation, how come you Aim Shot then Multi-shot?
Would it be better to Aim Shot, then Autoshot, then Multi-shot?
Does the Autoshot timer not reset as you're casting Aim shot?
autoshot has a set cooldown based on weapon speed, if your aimedshot cast overlaps when the autoshot is ready to shoot again it just sits and waits to fire until aimedshot is done, IIRC even if you mash the multishot button the autoshot can squeeze in between the aimed and multi.
YOYOYO mynaem Awesome. Thanks for the reply
Could dwarf hunters use bows in classic? I wanna say yes but I can't remember specifically
ya, just not initially.
you forgot to mention that if you played a female nelf and say ur a girl you have an easier time getting into guilds
I had no idea you could feign death and lay a trap after. Good stuff
What options are there with quivers at level 60?
Deathmaw > Cats.
I want a 1-60 guide that doesn't mention raiding once.... ffs. This is just another level 60 guide not 1-60. New players don't give a f about raiding
Hunter leveling guide?
#showtooltip
/cast arcane shot
/petattack
Pretty much all you need.
Throw out mend pet as needed.
Engineers can also make their own ammo yes?
can we have a warrior one? ...nice content as always
Optikjoe You know it brother!!!
Take out 2 points from parry and 3 from humanoid slaying in the surefooted spec, and put them into imp aspect of the hawk. Its a must have talent...
How am I supposed to level engineering if I take Skinning? Doesn't it require Ore?
sell leather for ore
@@buntings Okay but why not simply take Mining and provide resources for myself? Ore is still required for crafting bombs and stuff. I suppose I could have an alt with mining or something.
Pve guide: let the pets agro the mobs, auto attack and repeat
There isnt any Cadet Social media?
so as a hunter you shoudl farm stratholme as much as you can ^^
Dwarf Hunter all the way...
sooooo torn on the night elf dwarf choice. always played dwarf something pulling me towards nightelf for some reason. DAM hard pick
is it true hunters suck in the end of vanilla dps wise?
Not the best , but they are needed for utility.