Just going to leave this rq because I know this is a hotly debated topic and I have responded to it over and over, I know Gojo vs Jotaro is a toss-up. In the future I’ll try to go over how both fighters could win depending on the interpretation. I did think of this while writing the script but I didn’t want to include it because it messes with the flow of the video. Next time I will include more possibilities for fight outcomes, thank you all for the feedback ❤
you know killer queen doesn't leave any evidence of explosives right in part 4 as a part of kira will it just destroys the target instead of leaving evidence
few inaccuracies i see in every jojo video are found here too so i wanted to point them out its about GER, death loop activates after GER kills someone not when they get returned to 0 and rtz isnt automatic also Tusk cant bypass infinity because unlike love train infinity isnt a barrier so there wouldnt be anything to break and Soft and Wet is fodder, it has 0 speed feats and theres no reason for Gojo to sit and wait for a bubble to hit him, Gojo speedblitzes and cooks Soft and Wet
umm ya kinda got a lot wrong about tusk as tusk act 4 is an evolution of his base stand increasing its physical capabilities but the golden spin can only be used on a horse, and some other points that you brought are changing gravity but I don't really think that's a point because it returns whoever it hits to where it was hit with said gravity and it only shown it that scenario(to my memory) also love train is not infinite dimensions as I recall, it is a barrier of luck that sends all unlucky things elsewhere in space and time, but not to other dimensions. Some points you should've covered are its previous abilities like the aimbot nail holes or his ability to shoot himself and move his body parts pretty much anywhere which gives the argument for his win a lot more credibility.
The competition between Jotaro and Gojo isn’t between their abilities, it’s more a battle between “it’s the same type of stand as star platinum” and “nah, I’d win”
Jodio at chapter one: funny raindrop Jodio, in the final chapter: I can rewrite history with a single drop of my mystical raindrop and destroy millions of my foes and murder 5 dimensional characters whenever I want
Gojo: HALLOW PURPLE! Girono: Cool attack man, what a shame it didn't happened. G.E.R: *Yep...* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOJO: Haha! I will let you try, you can't bypass my infini- Johnny: I call that cap. TA4: *CHUMIMIIINNNNN!!!* ____________________________________________________________________ Gojo: Well this is gonna be easy- *Dies* Josuke: Didn't see that coming didn't ya? Lol.
Infinity slows objects down infinitely, which means that it involves time since speed involves time. There is no time in time stop so a punch from star platinum wouldn’t be slowed down by infinity, so if jotaro pulled off a time stop he would win
@@nosu5530 if we go by gojo's inverse explination regearding the achilles and the turtle paradox it is actually slow down, as the shorter the divided halfway gets, the less progress achilles seems to be making. also keeps in line with gege's explination.
Doesn't it create an infinite amount of space between gojo and things around him? So anything that starts approaching gojo will hit the infinite space and appear from the outside to be slowing down?
@@iiiivvvv9986 the manga creator said it's the same as turtle vs achilles paradox, with objects slowing down and going trough smaller infinite distances
@@czektor2263This is not actually how it works. The comparison is just for comparison's sake. When Gojo himself explains the ability, he explicitly states that "the closer you get, the slower you go", whereas the Achilles Paradox being taken literally here would mean their speed isn't being affected at all and instead the distance they're travelling is. We see that Infinity functions as a barrier effectively, as characters interacting with it feel like they are physically stopped instead of continuously going nowhere. Aka they are being slowed so quickly if feels like going from a speed to 0 speed, the same as running into an actual obstacle. Basically, the Achilles Paradox would feel like running on a treadmill, when in actuality it feels like running into a wall.
@@davizi6146 I just checked the explanation made by the author and it states "he can slow down moving objects and create spaces that seem to suck in objects." So you're wrong
The only problem with Johnny's infinite rotation is that it takes prep time that gojo can and will take advantage of that. Also the fact that Johnny would die from a normal Red to the face.
Ok I reread the entire funny valentine vs Johnny fight, funny valentines barrier is way stronger than Gojo’s and Johnny only needs a kick from his horse to end Gojo. I was being charitable and counting him being able to just run with his horse, as I don’t think its fair for me to assume both Johnny and his horse would need to be severely injured before being able to access tusk act 4. Maybe Gojo could take him out first, but his abilities also take a bit of time to cast, especially red and purple. The one way I think Gojo would just autowin potential is with infinite void.
@@Choso_gaming Gojo can teleport, so he won’t get hit. He would teleport the moment it starts to gets past the infinity, then he insta domains and kills him. Domain expansion kind of one shots anyone here to other than the strongest Giorno Giovanni.
@@asura3229 Gojo cannot teleport in combat, and josuke's attacks are super fast so if they are piercing infinity Gojo would already be dead by the time he is hit etc
@@Choso_gaming He can and he has (in literally every fight) all the has to do is clap. We literally see he has to physically rip through the barrier to get to him even a second would give him time to dodge.
How jotaro wins: Infinity slows objects (said by gojo) and jotaro stops time so infinity would be usles because jotaro is moving somewhere slower than infinity
It probably didn’t make sense, or you disagreed on the scaling but the interpretation we went with in the video is that Infinity is always up unless dispelled by the sorcerer or by another user. Jotaro would still have to get through with finite speed through a theoretical infinite space. Your suggestion would require Jotaro having feats moving through concepts which we thought he can’t for this video, as infinity simulates infinite distances but isn’t literally an infinite distance, similar to star rage which I will talk about in the next video. Either way its just up to your own personal interpretation, I hope I cleared up when mine was. Thanks for watching and reading 🙏
@@Choso_gaminggojo infinity works with space time and space time is influenced by gravity And time in jojo is basically gravity In conclusion when jotaro stops time he stops the gravity of the universe hence stopping gojo infinity
@@Choso_gaming if you think relativy theory from jotaros perspective everything is stopped but from other objects jotaro is moving at infinite speed so it may work
@@Choso_gamingdepending on the definition on timestop, jotaro is moving infinitely fast, so infinity couldn’t slow him down, it’s a small timeframe but jotaro could beat him. (Once again this depends on the definition of timestop so otherwise jotaro would lose)
As it already pierces infinity without the dimensional shenanigans, it I didn’t see it necessary. When it comes the to molecular level thing Infinity actually works on the atomic level
I've seen this discussed before, but does Gojo's ability simply affect space, or does it affect space-time? Since there are some sources stating it's just space, and some that say it's both. It it's just space, Gojo slams Jotaro no question. If it's space-time, then there's a chance that stopping time will also stop the infinity for the duration of the time stop, allowing Jotaro to bypass it during this period. I don't think it needs explaining why it only takes a single barrage from Star Platinum to kill him, or at least heavily injure.
it dosent affect space at at all, if there truly was an infinite space there he would not be able to attack, hear, or see. Infinity simply simulates the effect of an infinite space on physical objects. stands are not physical and thus bypass infinity
It’s more of a barrier of simulated distance, but it is physically there so assuming that time stop doesn’t dispel the barrier, infinity would continue to defend Gojo.
@@Choso_gamingI literally said that infinity is a simulated distance, and infinity affects physical objects, stands are not physical and thereby would not be affected by infinity whatsoever
@@kaos5633 Literally what happened in part 7, since D4C love train's barrier would basically stack infinite dimensions while putting the user beyond any dimension and Tusk was able to surpass it
3:48 that's a misunderstanding of how infinity works in a few ways. 1: it's not constantly active. It activates automatically when it detects something harmful approaching. 2: It still requires Gojo's cursed energy to activate it, so even though it's automatic, the cursed energy needed to activate it is frozen, so it can't respond. I think though that Gojo can still win because cursed energy reinforcement would be frozen too, and if it's strong enough that it can resist star platinum then the battle swings in his favour.
nice video but i heavily disagree on the jotaro part. gojo's infinity cant work in timestop, it's a neutral state of limitless that devides the distance infinitely to progressively slow down the victim, how do you suppose the division of distance can happen in 0 time. hollow purple would pose 0 threats to Jotaro, as not only is he capable of reacting (Jotaro's reaction speed is MFTL, he has reacted to The World on multiple occasions) he can simply stop time and distance himself from the attack via utilizing his stand jump from part 3. the fight wouldn't even be more than a minute long considering all jotaro needs to do is stop time and crush Gojo's heart inside of stopped time.
When it comes down to it, Gojo is constantly manifesting infinite distance between himself and the things around as it is no longer manual, I think this would lead to Jotaro needing to be exceptionally fast or have some kind anti-hax for it. Since no time passes the simulated infinite distance would remain up, as Gojo needs to remove it before it goes away. The division of distance stuff gets weird during timestop I agree but I think Jotaro probably can’t move through. I concede its possible Jotaro could win, his stats are a lot higher, and if infinity wouldn’t work etc. For the hollow purple thing, we are assuming he already used timestop recently, and if it really comes down to it, Gojo’s domain expansion would stun if not outright kill Jotaro’s brain, leaving him open hollow purple. Glad you enjoyed the video 🫡
@@Choso_gaming Yes it longer manual, now its automaticly detects and slows down threats. But it cant work in stoped time cause cursed technics works thought brain activity. Theres no brain activity in stoped time, so technicue frozen and cant detect threats to slow them down infinetly.
@@Choso_gaming Jotaro in Diamond Is Unbreakable didn't have any issues recasting timestop after running one down, "recently used timestop" isn't a relevant factor if we're not talking about Jotaro post his coma, he can quite literally spam it. The reason i think Gojo's domain and purple are useless is because the battle comes down to if infinity works in timestop or not, and it cant, there's multiple reasons why. 1. Gojo's infinity activates automatically once it detects a dangerous object coming. Jotaro's timestop makes him undetectable and unperciavable as he moves in 0 time. Keep in mind i'm basing this point off of Gojo's explination to Geto and Shoko, correct me if i'm wrong. 2. CT works through brain activity which cant happen in a world without time, as Gojo is not concious. In simpler terms Gojo's unconcious within stopped time, which means his CT cant take effect. 3. The progressive dividing of distance cannot happen in 0 time.
What good is reaction speed when you can't dodge it lmao 🤡🤡🤡 It's not like Purple is an attack you need reaction speed for, it's obvious when he's charging it up, there's just nothing these wall level fodders can do to tank it. MFTL REACTION speed, as if that's impressive🤡. And proving that with "bcus he reacted to the world🤓" tf does that prove it? Mister MFTL couldn't even get rid of a few static knives in the 2 seconds he had during TS 🤣 Stop coping Gojo stomps, take your 3 W's and go home.
@@flashxml Joseph still had hamon turned on during timestop when it requires breathing, by your logic he can't breathe during timestop so he shouldn't be able to use it. And yet here we are 🤣 Gojo's infinity works during timestop, end of story!
Lemme put on my nerd glasses for a second here “Well Aschually 🤓☝️” Time stop works in ways you couldn’t imagine and it is evident through DIO and Jotaro. Time stop doesn’t just stop time, I feel like that’s obvious yet very much ignored and it’s a crucial error for power scaling. Time stop to put it simple makes you god, lemme explain. When DIO throws knives in time stop, notice how they are able to move when he grabs and throws them yet stops moment after they leave his hands. Or how Jotaro is able to move Jolyne away from Pucci’s knives despite her being stuck in time. See time stop actually allows said user to basically break rules of the universe that shouldn’t make sense, being able to move other objects despite them being stopped in time. In other words physical matter, space, and gravity bends to said users will when they entered stopped time, thus the users being able to hover in stopped time when they’re stands are doing something else, them being able to move and interact with objects in stopped time. This means that if Jotaro were to stop time against Gojo, it would definetly allow him to bypass infinity and slowly just shove his fist through Gojo’s stomach. Gg
If I said this in the video I think it would make even less sense. I don’t really think you’re wrong but I think its more of an issue Jojo feats being consistently inconsistent than something I can definitively analyze and put in the video. If I had said, Jotaro can move sorta during timestop, so he can just touch Gojo gg ez it sounds like I have a dio pfp or something 😵💫
ok so, how does hamon work on time stop, on that part where dio was about to kill joseph he didnt because of his hamon, meaning that effects still works on time stop, and infinity is an effect not an object, meaning jotaro couldnt attack him in time stop, remember, infinity is not the ability to slow down things that approaches the user, its a side effect of the technique, it makes the barrier, but the side effect only works if something approaches it, like hamon, hamon is the power to use your breath to create energy similar to the sunlight to create powerfull attacks, but dio being a vampire and taking damage from it is just a side effect
4:06 Killer Queen's bomb can only harm living beings. Kira can't destroy buildings no matter what. For example, when Shigechi died, Kira exploded him by turning the doorknob into a bomb, but after the explosion, the door had taken no damage. And it's not like it was a weak explosion, it was enough to literally turn Shigechi to dust.
Who cares, stand users still have fodder durability and purple is overkill for them. A simple limitless push like Gojo did to the machete fodder is enough to dismember them probably
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 Not if Kira has BTD. In that case, Gojo will explode the second he learns Kira's identity, then time will go back 1 hour, then Gojo will explode in an hour regardless.
@@Choso_gaming not gonna lie, you lose a lot of credibility when you make a VS battle discussion video like this, and yet you fail to ever apply if Gojo can fight back or not. It's really clear you're just trying to push a JoJo agenda, because it sounds cooler when you can say "The JoJos COULD kill Gojo" than "The JoJos would win in a fight against Gojo." Gojo's kit would annihilate Johnny with any attack, while Johnny's only wincon is his magnum opus attack. You fail to ever bring up Johnny's human level durability, building level AP, and the fact that Gojo has city block level AP and DC in comparison. Johnny would clearly die from a blue, red, purple, punch, or neutral application of Limitless.
Limitless requires Gojo to constantly bend space time to slow the speed of something down to essentially nothing. Time Stop would absolutely bypass this as no time is passing.
4:07 now them ill direct you that kira is a precise killer and not a demoman. He doesnt want to draw mutch attention to his killing so ofcourse he wouldn't make his stand destroy buildings but still be able to vaporize opponents to atoms. He isnt about HAHA BIG BOOOM hes about directing that big boom in a small package
Joseph would win because he had a mirror that would’ve reflected light into gojo’s eyes and tell him that hamon could hit gojo because hamon is the sun or something idk
i don't think that johnny needs the inf rotation every time he wants to use act 4. Spoiler Warning for a major event in Part 7: in the final chapter he uses act 4 on the box that has gyro's corpse in it and he wasn't on a horse when he was getting to or on the boat, he was walking with his own 2 legs and gyro said himself a horse is needed for inf rotation
Josuke was a character that shouldn't have been born into this world by his mere existence he defied this worlds logic, as such the main villian was based on logic and order so thematically in order to beat said being one should transcend logic in order to beat it. Btw even though i just explained this it doesn't mean you have to agree to it, im just adding my opinion.
i think u should have named title to jojo's not joestars if its is joestars then pucci and dio' s son would also come to this list anyway nice video bro keep it up! 😉😉
The title is supposed to be more like “Gojo vs every main hero for each part” but yes you are right hahaha. Thanks for watching, plenty of more vids are on the way 🫡
1. Great video! 2. I'd like to propose the idea that maybe Jotaro could win. Infinity is reactive and thus, during time stop, could not react. So possible win con there. 3. Do Gojo Vs JoJo villains next please!
@@Choso_gaming hey I just wanted to say i really liked this video, i'm going to subscribe so don't be surprised if you see me commenting on more of your videos in the future :)
@@Choso_gaming plus stands technically can pass through infinity, as all stands can pass through objects n allat. hence he could put his arm in gojo then make it exist and bam, another donut for me to eat, and we all know he's a glazed one.
Giorno can one shot without even needing to use Gold Experience Requiem if he's feeling really vicious. He could put someone in an unwinnable situation where he turned a car your in into a giant snake and if you try to kill the snake your inside the attack kills you instead.
The real answer to this is I messed up on this part, Infinity works on things that intangible as well as physical and for the sake of how I said it would imply just physical. I have amended this in the DIO for the next script, good eye though 🫡
@@joshuaeffendi491 at least for the sake of the two videos I am making they would be able to interact, but in reality they probably wouldn't work against each other without me stipulating it first.
Btw Jotaro negates the infinite barrier. Bcs its explained that it works on the principal of Achilles and the tortiose paradox. So to explain the paradox the tortoise always has a head start and Achilles needs to catch up for him it would be easy but mathematically its impossible bcs when he catches up to the tortoise it has already moved further and bcs the tortoise always has a headstart Achilles cant catch up with it ever. But if we say that Jotaro stops time the "tortoise stays in the same place" without moving so that means Achilles (being Jotaro) can catch up and if someone says that Gojo has a strong idk strong body and starplatinum isnt strong wnough to hurt him. Well starplatinums hands can move 15,000x the speed of light and can deliver a force of 61.91 kilotons of TNT on the low end. Plus it could just put its hand through gojos chest and crush his heart or pull it out cs its not physical. Ilove both anime.❤
I think you’ll be a lot more happy with the script I’m cooking for the next video bc I am totally get into how wonky the infinity and how timestop works within the JoJo universe. Gojo can has flatten kilometers of city blocks in the manga, so his is in a similar range of strength and I did calcs for it 🙏 when it comes to the speed stuff Jotaro could potentially blitz so I’ll put a part about that in the DIO entry too. The issue I have with the whole stands ignore hax of JJK characters is there actual stand equivalents in their universe as well. Gojo has fought something along those lines with his barehands.
I know a stand that can beat Gojo. It’s called Ozone Baby from Jojo part 8. He has the power to cause changes in the atmosphere of a person. If that person leaves a sealed room, they immediately start to feel their bodies being crushed in. If they go outside, then the crushing pressure will make the body cave in on himself. Since atmospheric pressure does not have a vector nor a velocity, it would bypass infinity. In fact ozone baby was so powerful that most of the Joestars could not defeat him.
@@Choso_gamingWhat about heavy weather since it basically activates on sight and since gojo's infinity isn't stated to protect you from dangerous things activated by seeing them
I’d say since ozone baby has an area of affect, it would just stop before reaching gojo, but he’d have to specify stopping it. My list of stands that beat gojo are: Hanged man Cream Heavens door Killer queen Surface Superfly Rolling stones Weather report C-moon Highway to hell Bohemian rhapsody Sugar mountain Chocolate disco Wonder of u
@@dandydanthedapperman7797 Nothing is touching Gojo. It’s just the atmosphere in an enclosed area. It’s like the same way Gojo can’t stop gravity. This stand is so powerful that it could beat most stands in Jojo given the correct circumstances
I don’t mean to be that guy but the reason sheer heart attack doesn’t destroy the building is because it has been said that Kira’s bombs are suppose to leave no trace
Kira meant that when he blows something up, it disappears. No blood, clothes or worn/held objects are left behind. Sheer heart attack does the same thing, but if you start a fire and he blows up in it, its going to do damage
Really love this analysis love the detailed thinking and the explanations of the stands. You did great look forward to seeing more creative videos like this
Gojo vs Giorno is probably just a draw tho. While yes, infinite death loop is cool and all GER first needs to either kill or put Gojo into a near death state for the ability to activate, which combined with how little we really know about the limits of requiem stands doesn't prove that GER could bypass Gojo's infinity. Hence it's a draw
time stop is a hard counter to infinity, infinity is a possible distance that is impossible to reach through progressive distance being created, i.e. the achilleas and the tortoise, being able to stop time is being able to cut the distance infinity creates over time, if theres no time to have such distance extended between gojo and jotaro there is no infinity, therefore using logic as its described in both series time is merely the counter to infinity, unless its deeper than that and i just dont know, if so tell me!
I would say if it was normal rules STAR PLATINUM ZA WARUDO would kill gojo since infinity couldn't know what is punching gojo since it would just be like being punched by a ghost
villains next? because i think ulf kars , diavalo, pucci, funny valentine and toruu all have a chance, kars, this could be a stalemate but kars is much stronger ,faster and has more durability, diavalo skipping time and seeing through infinity also one of diavalos deaths is him beating gojo but dying to cancer?, pucci infinite speed=infinite power or force, and gojo wouldnt be able to react, funny valentine w d4c lt slams, toruu is way to op
I think diavolo probably couldn’t get passed infinity unless he is able to touch Gojo, it really depends on how charitable you are with how timeskip/stop would work against infinity. Kars vs Gojo is probably a stalemate, I don’t think Gojo could kill him and Kars would need to likely evolve to have cursed energy to stand a chance, which he probably could do in character. Pucci and Valentine have way way beyond the hax Infinity can withstand, and I don’t know how wonder of u works properly but I know its op. I agree with you for the most part👍
i think everything is right except for Giorno, for the Infinite Death Loop to activate, Giorno would need to actually kill Gojo first, which he wouldn't be able to do due to infinite, so it would essentially be a stalemate, he could maybe win if Gojo eventually went out of energy
Giorno never kills diavolo to activate it, he just beats him up then a homeless guy stabs him. with return to zero, all actions are reset to zero, which would include infinity.
@Choso_gaming that isnt exactly how it works though. RTZ resets the will of an opponent who plans to do direct harm on Giorno. In part 5, we see that Diavolo's attack was reversed and "returned to zero" or to a state before his attack began. The only reason Giorno was able to then beat up Diavolo is becuase he just stood there confused. I dont think RTZ would reset Gojo's infinity barrier, because it isnt an attack on Giorno. Thus, Giorno would try to hit Gojo, and then find that he cannot. Stalemate.
@@Choso_gaming sorry about my lacking knowledge in JJK but isn't infinite a passive ability? or does Gojo have to willingly activate it? Also Giorno does "kill" Diavolo with the Stand rush, that's what allows the death loop to start, otherwise Diavolo would've never let himself be stabbed by that man
@@hyperblaziken6572 as we see in eyes of heaven. Giorno goes to put DIO OH in a timeloop just by touching him, so with that information, Giorno was just pissed at Diavolo and barrages him. Because if Giorno dies, time reverses. And ger punches gojo, gojo can't see stands. So he is dead
I think the key problem with the idea of this is that both of these guys have extremely fast attacks, beating characters who would both beat Gojo. Those two characters being Funny Valentine and WoU respectively
6:23 the main issue with this is that GER's death loop doesnt activate until AFTER the target has died, as we see diavolo not being affected until after GER beat him to death GER on its own has no way to bypass the Limitless, meaning this fight would result in a tie as neither can take the other down
not much of a fight. Funny would just throw another Gojo at him, WoU would obliterate him, made in heaven would gain infinite speed and use it to bypass infinity, Diavolo looses. Kira looses. Dio looses. Kars adapts to his ability, making a draw. and pt1 dio isnt much of a fight
@@l0sts0ul89 probably a way to control infinity and create bubbles of it around kars. You could trap people in a bubble of infinity or push them against two bubbles to crush them
“Bro that’s just a fuckig bubbl-“ “Lmao get plundered” “WHY CANT I SEE?!” “no more friction haha” “WHY ARE THEY GETTING THROUGH MY INFINITY!?” “bubble dont exist” “WHAT THE FU- (dies)”
This issue with this argument is the hax Gojo possesses would be able to stun Jotaro, with infinite void. Infinite void possibly even kill him outright, as only cursed spirits have an innate resistance.
SP only has light speed reaction time and attack speed, he can't move at light speed. Additionally SP only has wall level destructive power and durability so the Red gojo used against jogo would outscale him
Josuke's spin is an inherited ability from Johnny with an ability similar to Jolyne. A hair so thin it does not exist, that spins so infinitely fast that it transcends calamitous power.
Infinity wouldn’t be able to stop a stand unless you equate stands to curse energy. There’s so much evidence from Gege about how Gojo’s powers work that it’ll literally be impossible for the infinity to even work on hermit purple. For 1 Gojo can’t see a stand and even if he could they don’t have atoms or mass, they are literal embodiments of will. So unless you think infinity is boundless (which it’s not) and can just stop all concepts and phenomenon it won’t be able to stop a stand. Also it even says it’s based on Gojo’s senses by determining the mass and velocity of the incoming object or person, so if he’s also not fast enough he just loses or made of light (because photons are smaller and faster than atoms).
“Since these characters are from different Universes, we will be doing a little bit of verse equalizations. To get this out of the way, Gojo can see and interact with stands, and stand users can see and interact Jujutsu sorcery.”
@@Choso_gaming me missing the first 10 seconds don’t equate to me not watching the whole video, I just missed that part. Was probably doing something while I had the video on and missed it.
I don’t see Johnny or Josuke beating Gojo. Tusk act 4 and Go beyond WOULD bypass infinity however there’s a few factors that would stop them from working TUSK ACT 4 Tusk act 4’s infinite spin is crazy dangerous but there are two things that keeps it from working. 1. The start up 2. Hitting it 1. Tusk act 4 needs a horse in order to work. It can be done by either going a certain speed where it makes the golden rotation or by using a steel ball on it. Both options would take an amount of time (the horse can’t immediately go max speed) to start up. You think Gojo would just be standing there twitling his thumbs? Gojo outspeeds Johnny by a lot. Gojo could just run (or teleport) up to Johnny before it activates and just kicks him away from his horse, or just use red or blue on it (which would also likely knock Johnny out of the fight since sbr characters don’t really have many good durability feats and blue was shown to immediately crush that one bald dude’s limbs during the goodwill event. I don’t think Johnny would be able to activate the golden spin in time. But even if he was, he would have to land a direct hit on his chest or head for it to be fatal. Tusk act 4 can follow a target even if it misses but it’s always been shown to follow along a surface to hit. Gojo could just fly? Tusk act 4 wouldn’t be able to reach him at that point. Even then if it lands on his arm or leg he could cut it off before it spreads to the rest of his body like Diego did and he could even regen it via RCT. I don’t see the infinite spin hitting Gojo before Gojo defeats Johnny. Go beyond is even easier. Yes the attack would bypass infinity and you wouldn’t be able to see it but it doesnt seem to be too deadly? If I recall correctly Tooru got hit by one or two of those and was still able to walk to yasuho in order to try and use the rokakaka to transfer the damage. Unless Gappy lands one directly at his head Gojo could just heal any injuries with reverse curse technique.
Gojo: ''Yo-'' Jotaro: *Star Platinum Za Warudo* _time stops_ *ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA* Jotaro: ''Yare Yare Daze'' **THE END**
I mentioned this in another comment but there *some* debate on how to calc the ^2.5. I personally subscribe to the idea its closer x2.5 bc of how low the power level is generally. Though if we go by statements it’s ^2.5 and that’s how I put it in the next video
Saying Jotaro loses to gojo is almost criminal, its really 50/50 on whether he gets killed or time stops first because your logic for infinity working in stopped time is skewed, infinity while automatic still needs to process an attack to block it, because its more a filter than a wall and in stopped time it wouldn't be able to filter any attacks giving jotaro and easy win if time stop is pulled off since he can just tear gojo's head off
Just going to leave this rq because I know this is a hotly debated topic and I have responded to it over and over, I know Gojo vs Jotaro is a toss-up. In the future I’ll try to go over how both fighters could win depending on the interpretation. I did think of this while writing the script but I didn’t want to include it because it messes with the flow of the video. Next time I will include more possibilities for fight outcomes, thank you all for the feedback ❤
you know killer queen doesn't leave any evidence of explosives right in part 4 as a part of kira will it just destroys the target instead of leaving evidence
few inaccuracies i see in every jojo video are found here too so i wanted to point them out
its about GER, death loop activates after GER kills someone not when they get returned to 0 and rtz isnt automatic
also Tusk cant bypass infinity because unlike love train infinity isnt a barrier so there wouldnt be anything to break
and Soft and Wet is fodder, it has 0 speed feats and theres no reason for Gojo to sit and wait for a bubble to hit him, Gojo speedblitzes and cooks Soft and Wet
umm ya kinda got a lot wrong about tusk as tusk act 4 is an evolution of his base stand increasing its physical capabilities but the golden spin can only be used on a horse, and some other points that you brought are changing gravity but I don't really think that's a point because it returns whoever it hits to where it was hit with said gravity and it only shown it that scenario(to my memory) also love train is not infinite dimensions as I recall, it is a barrier of luck that sends all unlucky things elsewhere in space and time, but not to other dimensions. Some points you should've covered are its previous abilities like the aimbot nail holes or his ability to shoot himself and move his body parts pretty much anywhere which gives the argument for his win a lot more credibility.
@@srnova9486 but the bubbles doesn't exist and as shown in the case of tooru's death he can target them to people so that's part of an argument
@@bettrfastrstrongr1708 They still need to travel a distance
“ Are you jojo because you're bizzare or are you bizzare because you're jojo.”
”Stand proud, you bizarre Jogo Gojo Jojo fan”
My head hurts
@@Choso_gaming If only we had a "Gogo"
@@Flowey_the_GooberZeppeli
@@アオインク-k6v GO! GO!
ZEPELLI
Jotaro slams via having the same stand type as gojo
sukuna win
@@vongolatx4828 same type of stand
@@bean_man_epicah yes.. my anti same type of stand technique that i havent used since the heian era..
STAR PLATINUM HOLLOW PURPLE
@@vongolatx4828 So it's the same kind of asspull as jotaro..
I would argue that Josuke (part 4) can beat Gojo's ass because knowing Gojo's personality, he'd roast Josuke's hair and that's a NoGo
The hair rage amp may be infinite, you could be onto something 🧐
@@Choso_gamingthe rage would break infinity by just brute force
Smartest jojo fan when it comes to power scaling
Its a joke dude@@kingcrimson5005
@@kingcrimson5005are you restarted?
The competition between Jotaro and Gojo isn’t between their abilities, it’s more a battle between “it’s the same type of stand as star platinum” and “nah, I’d win”
But gojo's "nah i'd win" didn't work, jotaro's "so it's the same type of stand as star platinum" worked though
@@keane4464 na real foi o Dio que falou.
Issue is, if time is stopped, space can't be increased between SP and him meaning he will instantly rush him, heavily damaging him.
Hahaha somebody should make an animation based on this
Jotaro ain't doing anything. Infinity is on 24/7.
Jodio Joestar gonna slam Gojo when Part 9 is finished, gonna be like infinite spinning raindrops or something bizarre like that
I have no doubt, the newest joestars have been completely bonkers at the end of parts.
Each raindrop is a new mini universe that can be used to control time or something
Yeah sounds like where part 9 would be going
Jodio at chapter one: funny raindrop
Jodio, in the final chapter: I can rewrite history with a single drop of my mystical raindrop and destroy millions of my foes and murder 5 dimensional characters whenever I want
@@A_Commenter_ next jojo will do that with their first ability
Gojo using his infinite void on tooru and instantly gets stage 4 bone cancer lol
The six eyes are such a horrible disadvantage for Gojo, as perceiving WoU is not suggested. I talk about in the sequel to this vid 🤫
Stage 420 ball cancer*
joshu actually solos, he just unscrews the infinity
Gojo will just get a sheer heart attack from seeing Joshu's hair and die
@@Wandering_Weeb joshu solos the jjk verse.
@@ryzorandolrabandol3250 Naw Iggy would be fair
if we’re being serious, gojo can just do a funny purple to take out joshu before he can do any damage
@@gmattonline6068nah, Joshu solos neg diff
Gojo watching as Tusk Act 4 grabs his "infinity" and rips it apart:
"Chumimin, b--ch!"
Ch...chu...chumimin
Gojo faster then Johnny horse
@@people2chronically-online gojo not faster then a spin bullet
Doesn't matter ta4 is ftl
Gojo watching a cripple riding a pink t-posing refrigerator break through his infinity and make him spin forever:
Chumimin!!!! :3
Nah, I'd spin
Fr 🤣😂🤣
Gojo opening his domain before the cripple even fires off his attack :
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 even if he does tusk is still gonna rip it open and make his balls spin 😂
Gojo: HALLOW PURPLE!
Girono: Cool attack man, what a shame it didn't happened.
G.E.R: *Yep...*
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GOJO: Haha! I will let you try, you can't bypass my infini-
Johnny: I call that cap.
TA4: *CHUMIMIIINNNNN!!!*
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Gojo: Well this is gonna be easy- *Dies*
Josuke: Didn't see that coming didn't ya? Lol.
Thank you for the detailed in-fight dialogue 🫡
@@Choso_gaming no problem :)
Who's Girono new jojo?
@@Berlinh2 part 5 jojo
@@Berlinh2You mean like the reincarnated Giorno? If so the. That’d be Jodio
Gojo vs Johnny is essentially infinity vs infinity
Gojo's infinity is not really as infinite at as Johnny's, so it comes to down to which infinity is "bigger".
Johnny’s is biggers, and Johnny can easily bypass infinite because of infinite rotation
I say otherwise.
Prove it then.
Except Johnny's infinity is way more stronger due to Tusk being pan-dimensional and able to bypass Love Train
Joseph uses your next line is , Gojo implodes.
"Your next line is domain expan- oh shi-"
Gojo watching in horror and a 6’5 man says your next line is and proceeds to say exactly what Gojo was about to say
Infinity slows objects down infinitely, which means that it involves time since speed involves time. There is no time in time stop so a punch from star platinum wouldn’t be slowed down by infinity, so if jotaro pulled off a time stop he would win
We’ll address how this interaction will work better in Dio vs Gojo, hopefully that explanation will be more accurate 🙏
@@nosu5530 if we go by gojo's inverse explination regearding the achilles and the turtle paradox it is actually slow down, as the shorter the divided halfway gets, the less progress achilles seems to be making.
also keeps in line with gege's explination.
@@flashxml oh alright then
Lmao infinity has nothing to do with time, it’s about space and distance travelled
@@h.a.3954 Space is literally relative to time.
Gojo: I can beat every Joestar easly
Some blonde guy, cripple man with nails and amnesia sailor: I dont think so
*blonde gay gangster 😂
Blonde gay teenage mafia boss*
Gojo is faster than bubble and nails
@@people2chronically-online gojo ain't faster than ta4, and the bubble doesn't exist in reality so he doesn't even know it's coming for him
@@saketbakshi4235 he is
Gojo:hollow purple
Jotaro:so this is the same type of ability as star Platinum...Star Platinum Hollow purple!
Domain expansion: Unlimited Star Platinum
@@Choso_gaming Domain expansion: Infinite Ora
@@Choso_gamingDomain expansion: Infinite star finger
@@AghoginOritsetsemaye-vr2lsDomain Expansion: Infinite Star Fingering
@@alien_7236 Domain Expansion: Infinite Star Fingered
His name is Gordon Joestar, they call him GoJo for short.
Actually he goes by 2 names
Gordon and joestar
Hence the name Go/Jo
He doesn't have the star mark
So he doesn't count
So that's why he was 1/2
@@Therestrial205 he's adopted
Gordon as in Jim Gordon?
Giorno: GOLDEN EXPIERIENCE REQUIEM
Johnny: TUSK ACT 4
gappy:SOFT AND WET GO BEYOND
Gojo:i will wi*dies*
What about Joseph's dumb luck? Or what if he pulls a classic
"Your next line is, Nah, I'd win?"
@@arjunthemadlad hmm lets see Joseph "your next linę is" is gonna nullyvy oponents Words so this means Joseph will win
@@jakubtrapp3509 it's the meme of course.....Joseph would be dead.
@@arjunthemadlad yeah no SHit Sherlock i was playing along
Gold Experience*
Gojo: Nah, I'd die.
*gojo shitting himself as he watches ta4 flawlessly rip apart his infinity*
his jaw would be on the floor literally and figuratively
*DAMN DANIEL*
Infinity doesn't create infinite space, it slows down everything that comes near him, meaning that it would probably stop working in time stop
Doesn't it create an infinite amount of space between gojo and things around him? So anything that starts approaching gojo will hit the infinite space and appear from the outside to be slowing down?
@@iiiivvvv9986 the manga creator said it's the same as turtle vs achilles paradox, with objects slowing down and going trough smaller infinite distances
@@czektor2263This is not actually how it works. The comparison is just for comparison's sake. When Gojo himself explains the ability, he explicitly states that "the closer you get, the slower you go", whereas the Achilles Paradox being taken literally here would mean their speed isn't being affected at all and instead the distance they're travelling is. We see that Infinity functions as a barrier effectively, as characters interacting with it feel like they are physically stopped instead of continuously going nowhere. Aka they are being slowed so quickly if feels like going from a speed to 0 speed, the same as running into an actual obstacle.
Basically, the Achilles Paradox would feel like running on a treadmill, when in actuality it feels like running into a wall.
@@davizi6146 I just checked the explanation made by the author and it states "he can slow down moving objects and create spaces that seem to suck in objects." So you're wrong
@@czektor2263 goofy ahh that's how his other moves work not infinity, infinity works like how gojo explained it
Gojo : Nah I'd win
Giorno : So it's that a truth?
yes
No
Gojo: domain expansion
Jonny: tusk act 4 rip this place apart and rotate his balls
Gappy: where am i???
Edit: holy thx for 99 likes
i wonder if rotating ur balls is pleasing if u didnt feel the pain from it
I made it 100
@@understand5238 thx
Gojo gets violated and he's gonna end up in a wheelchair if he tries to face Johnny
@@rajalakshmipremkumar251 lol true
"Nah, I'd win"
G.E.R.: "Cap"
The only problem with Johnny's infinite rotation is that it takes prep time that gojo can and will take advantage of that. Also the fact that Johnny would die from a normal Red to the face.
Ok I reread the entire funny valentine vs Johnny fight, funny valentines barrier is way stronger than Gojo’s and Johnny only needs a kick from his horse to end Gojo. I was being charitable and counting him being able to just run with his horse, as I don’t think its fair for me to assume both Johnny and his horse would need to be severely injured before being able to access tusk act 4.
Maybe Gojo could take him out first, but his abilities also take a bit of time to cast, especially red and purple. The one way I think Gojo would just autowin potential is with infinite void.
@@Choso_gaming
Gojo can teleport, so he won’t get hit. He would teleport the moment it starts to gets past the infinity, then he insta domains and kills him.
Domain expansion kind of one shots anyone here to other than the strongest Giorno Giovanni.
@@asura3229 Gojo cannot teleport in combat, and josuke's attacks are super fast so if they are piercing infinity Gojo would already be dead by the time he is hit etc
@@Choso_gaming He can and he has (in literally every fight) all the has to do is clap. We literally see he has to physically rip through the barrier to get to him even a second would give him time to dodge.
@@asura3229 the clap thing is Todo...
Gojo: "Throughout Heaven and the Frying Pan, I'm cooked"
You know JoJo's bloodline still continuing when Jonnathan's theme starts playing.
How jotaro wins:
Infinity slows objects (said by gojo) and jotaro stops time so infinity would be usles because jotaro is moving somewhere slower than infinity
It probably didn’t make sense, or you disagreed on the scaling but the interpretation we went with in the video is that Infinity is always up unless dispelled by the sorcerer or by another user. Jotaro would still have to get through with finite speed through a theoretical infinite space. Your suggestion would require Jotaro having feats moving through concepts which we thought he can’t for this video, as infinity simulates infinite distances but isn’t literally an infinite distance, similar to star rage which I will talk about in the next video. Either way its just up to your own personal interpretation, I hope I cleared up when mine was. Thanks for watching and reading 🙏
@@Choso_gaminggojo infinity works with space time and space time is influenced by gravity
And time in jojo is basically gravity
In conclusion when jotaro stops time he stops the gravity of the universe hence stopping gojo infinity
@@kingpengu8895so what your saying is, that caseoh solos?
@@Choso_gaming if you think relativy theory from jotaros perspective everything is stopped but from other objects jotaro is moving at infinite speed so it may work
@@Choso_gamingdepending on the definition on timestop, jotaro is moving infinitely fast, so infinity couldn’t slow him down, it’s a small timeframe but jotaro could beat him. (Once again this depends on the definition of timestop so otherwise jotaro would lose)
You forgot tusks golden rotation ability to make your enemies spin infinitely to the molecular level and that it also follows you through universes
As it already pierces infinity without the dimensional shenanigans, it I didn’t see it necessary. When it comes the to molecular level thing Infinity actually works on the atomic level
@@Choso_gaming ah ok 👍
@@Choso_gaming ah ok 👍
I've seen this discussed before, but does Gojo's ability simply affect space, or does it affect space-time? Since there are some sources stating it's just space, and some that say it's both.
It it's just space, Gojo slams Jotaro no question. If it's space-time, then there's a chance that stopping time will also stop the infinity for the duration of the time stop, allowing Jotaro to bypass it during this period. I don't think it needs explaining why it only takes a single barrage from Star Platinum to kill him, or at least heavily injure.
it dosent affect space at at all, if there truly was an infinite space there he would not be able to attack, hear, or see. Infinity simply simulates the effect of an infinite space on physical objects. stands are not physical and thus bypass infinity
It’s more of a barrier of simulated distance, but it is physically there so assuming that time stop doesn’t dispel the barrier, infinity would continue to defend Gojo.
@@Choso_gamingI literally said that infinity is a simulated distance, and infinity affects physical objects, stands are not physical and thereby would not be affected by infinity whatsoever
@@Choso_gaming jotaro would win stoping time gives him infinite speed and lets not debate if gojos infinity can bypass infinite speed
He also needs to strike his opponent to use rtz
Perfect video, exactly what I needed to decide whether giorno or gojo would win in my Stopmotion. Much appreciated 🙏
Gojo vs Johnny would be fucking insane simply because of thinking about how Gojos infinity would react to Johnny's infinite rotation
It would look crazy, but Tusk would probably just rip open infinity (it just works)
@@Choso_gaming Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object typa visuals
@@kaos5633 Literally what happened in part 7, since D4C love train's barrier would basically stack infinite dimensions while putting the user beyond any dimension and Tusk was able to surpass it
3:48 that's a misunderstanding of how infinity works in a few ways. 1: it's not constantly active. It activates automatically when it detects something harmful approaching. 2: It still requires Gojo's cursed energy to activate it, so even though it's automatic, the cursed energy needed to activate it is frozen, so it can't respond. I think though that Gojo can still win because cursed energy reinforcement would be frozen too, and if it's strong enough that it can resist star platinum then the battle swings in his favour.
Josuke beats infinite void after his hair being insulted.
MY BRODA JOSUKE CAN PUNCH INFINITY AND PROGRAM IT TO BE TOUCHBLE, AM I REACHING?
Yes but I feel like if Gojo was in the Jojo universe it could happen and its funny
nice video but i heavily disagree on the jotaro part.
gojo's infinity cant work in timestop, it's a neutral state of limitless that devides the distance infinitely to progressively slow down the victim, how do you suppose the division of distance can happen in 0 time.
hollow purple would pose 0 threats to Jotaro, as not only is he capable of reacting (Jotaro's reaction speed is MFTL, he has reacted to The World on multiple occasions) he can simply stop time and distance himself from the attack via utilizing his stand jump from part 3.
the fight wouldn't even be more than a minute long considering all jotaro needs to do is stop time and crush Gojo's heart inside of stopped time.
When it comes down to it, Gojo is constantly manifesting infinite distance between himself and the things around as it is no longer manual, I think this would lead to Jotaro needing to be exceptionally fast or have some kind anti-hax for it. Since no time passes the simulated infinite distance would remain up, as Gojo needs to remove it before it goes away. The division of distance stuff gets weird during timestop I agree but I think Jotaro probably can’t move through. I concede its possible Jotaro could win, his stats are a lot higher, and if infinity wouldn’t work etc. For the hollow purple thing, we are assuming he already used timestop recently, and if it really comes down to it, Gojo’s domain expansion would stun if not outright kill Jotaro’s brain, leaving him open hollow purple. Glad you enjoyed the video 🫡
@@Choso_gaming Yes it longer manual, now its automaticly detects and slows down threats. But it cant work in stoped time cause cursed technics works thought brain activity. Theres no brain activity in stoped time, so technicue frozen and cant detect threats to slow them down infinetly.
@@Choso_gaming
Jotaro in Diamond Is Unbreakable didn't have any issues recasting timestop after running one down, "recently used timestop" isn't a relevant factor if we're not talking about Jotaro post his coma, he can quite literally spam it. The reason i think Gojo's domain and purple are useless is because the battle comes down to if infinity works in timestop or not, and it cant, there's multiple reasons why.
1. Gojo's infinity activates automatically once it detects a dangerous object coming. Jotaro's timestop makes him undetectable and unperciavable as he moves in 0 time. Keep in mind i'm basing this point off of Gojo's explination to Geto and Shoko, correct me if i'm wrong.
2. CT works through brain activity which cant happen in a world without time, as Gojo is not concious. In simpler terms Gojo's unconcious within stopped time, which means his CT cant take effect.
3. The progressive dividing of distance cannot happen in 0 time.
What good is reaction speed when you can't dodge it lmao 🤡🤡🤡
It's not like Purple is an attack you need reaction speed for, it's obvious when he's charging it up, there's just nothing these wall level fodders can do to tank it.
MFTL REACTION speed, as if that's impressive🤡. And proving that with "bcus he reacted to the world🤓" tf does that prove it? Mister MFTL couldn't even get rid of a few static knives in the 2 seconds he had during TS 🤣
Stop coping Gojo stomps, take your 3 W's and go home.
@@flashxml Joseph still had hamon turned on during timestop when it requires breathing, by your logic he can't breathe during timestop so he shouldn't be able to use it. And yet here we are 🤣
Gojo's infinity works during timestop, end of story!
Gojo: Nothing can reach me!
Gappy: Bet, GO BEYOND!
Lemme put on my nerd glasses for a second here
“Well Aschually 🤓☝️”
Time stop works in ways you couldn’t imagine and it is evident through DIO and Jotaro.
Time stop doesn’t just stop time, I feel like that’s obvious yet very much ignored and it’s a crucial error for power scaling. Time stop to put it simple makes you god, lemme explain. When DIO throws knives in time stop, notice how they are able to move when he grabs and throws them yet stops moment after they leave his hands. Or how Jotaro is able to move Jolyne away from Pucci’s knives despite her being stuck in time. See time stop actually allows said user to basically break rules of the universe that shouldn’t make sense, being able to move other objects despite them being stopped in time. In other words physical matter, space, and gravity bends to said users will when they entered stopped time, thus the users being able to hover in stopped time when they’re stands are doing something else, them being able to move and interact with objects in stopped time. This means that if Jotaro were to stop time against Gojo, it would definetly allow him to bypass infinity and slowly just shove his fist through Gojo’s stomach.
Gg
If I said this in the video I think it would make even less sense. I don’t really think you’re wrong but I think its more of an issue Jojo feats being consistently inconsistent than something I can definitively analyze and put in the video. If I had said, Jotaro can move sorta during timestop, so he can just touch Gojo gg ez it sounds like I have a dio pfp or something 😵💫
@@Choso_gaming Ay I mean, it ain’t meat riding if it’s true d:
The reason why he is able to mov is because he has infinite speed during the time stop, so yes he can beat gojo.
@@siniculethat makes absolute no sense
ok so, how does hamon work on time stop, on that part where dio was about to kill joseph he didnt because of his hamon, meaning that effects still works on time stop, and infinity is an effect not an object, meaning jotaro couldnt attack him in time stop, remember, infinity is not the ability to slow down things that approaches the user, its a side effect of the technique, it makes the barrier, but the side effect only works if something approaches it, like hamon, hamon is the power to use your breath to create energy similar to the sunlight to create powerfull attacks, but dio being a vampire and taking damage from it is just a side effect
4:06
Killer Queen's bomb can only harm living beings. Kira can't destroy buildings no matter what. For example, when Shigechi died, Kira exploded him by turning the doorknob into a bomb, but after the explosion, the door had taken no damage. And it's not like it was a weak explosion, it was enough to literally turn Shigechi to dust.
Who cares, stand users still have fodder durability and purple is overkill for them. A simple limitless push like Gojo did to the machete fodder is enough to dismember them probably
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 Not if Kira has BTD. In that case, Gojo will explode the second he learns Kira's identity, then time will go back 1 hour, then Gojo will explode in an hour regardless.
I ain't gon hold you dawg, Tusk Act 4 is cracking Infinity open like a bag of Lays
He popped love train like an ice cold beer 💀
@@Choso_gaming not gonna lie, you lose a lot of credibility when you make a VS battle discussion video like this, and yet you fail to ever apply if Gojo can fight back or not. It's really clear you're just trying to push a JoJo agenda, because it sounds cooler when you can say "The JoJos COULD kill Gojo" than "The JoJos would win in a fight against Gojo." Gojo's kit would annihilate Johnny with any attack, while Johnny's only wincon is his magnum opus attack. You fail to ever bring up Johnny's human level durability, building level AP, and the fact that Gojo has city block level AP and DC in comparison. Johnny would clearly die from a blue, red, purple, punch, or neutral application of Limitless.
I wanna make one thing clear,Johnny Actually doesn't need the Perfect spin to unlock Act 4,he already has that part unlocked
he still needs infinite spin to penetrate through gojo's infinity
@@caesar888_ Jojo part 8 tho
@@lazyvoid7107, haven't read neither part 7 nor 8
for me, johnny needing to activate infinite spin to penetrate infinite space is logic
I’d say this as my ranks
Jonathan-loss
Joseph-loss
Jotaro-loss
Josuke-loss
Giorno-win
Joylne-I hate this person
The rest-win
Limitless requires Gojo to constantly bend space time to slow the speed of something down to essentially nothing. Time Stop would absolutely bypass this as no time is passing.
4:07 now them ill direct you that kira is a precise killer and not a demoman. He doesnt want to draw mutch attention to his killing so ofcourse he wouldn't make his stand destroy buildings but still be able to vaporize opponents to atoms. He isnt about HAHA BIG BOOOM hes about directing that big boom in a small package
Hollow Purple!
Giorno: nah
Johnny: 🔄🔃🔄🔃
Gappy: Cool, you cant see btw
Gojo: 👁️👄👁️
you need over 1000 subscribers fr, love the work you put in 👍
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it ❤️
now we need gojo vs the jojo villains
or just pit him up against the strongest idk
The villains video is a week or so away (I would say closer to 10-12 days)
@@Choso_gaming W
@@bem3760 I agree except for Kars, Gojo actually has beaten opponents who can adapt to anything before
Diavolo skips the moment where infinity catches, donuts gojo. lol.
Joseph would win because he had a mirror that would’ve reflected light into gojo’s eyes and tell him that hamon could hit gojo because hamon is the sun or something idk
i don't think that johnny needs the inf rotation every time he wants to use act 4. Spoiler Warning for a major event in Part 7:
in the final chapter he uses act 4 on the box that has gyro's corpse in it and he wasn't on a horse when he was getting to or on the boat, he was walking with his own 2 legs and gyro said himself a horse is needed for inf rotation
Just give Jonathan a stand and he's gonna solo every single anime verse🗿
Josuke was a character that shouldn't have been born into this world by his mere existence he defied this worlds logic, as such the main villian was based on logic and order so thematically in order to beat said being one should transcend logic in order to beat it. Btw even though i just explained this it doesn't mean you have to agree to it, im just adding my opinion.
Bars
"So it's the same type of stand as star platinum"
i think u should have named title to jojo's not joestars if its is joestars then pucci and dio' s son would also come to this list anyway nice video bro keep it up! 😉😉
The title is supposed to be more like “Gojo vs every main hero for each part” but yes you are right hahaha. Thanks for watching, plenty of more vids are on the way 🫡
oh ok looking forward to ur vids! 😊😊
@@Sussydawgg the sequel to this vid came out a few days ago
gojo after getting testicular torsion cause he tried chasing down a random person:
(he did not know that person was tooru)
1. Great video!
2. I'd like to propose the idea that maybe Jotaro could win. Infinity is reactive and thus, during time stop, could not react. So possible win con there.
3. Do Gojo Vs JoJo villains next please!
1. Thank you so much ❤️
2. We will work on scaling differently potentially in the next timestop comes up 🤫
3. It’ll a week or two, but ofc
WOU and LT gg
@@Choso_gaming hey I just wanted to say i really liked this video, i'm going to subscribe so don't be surprised if you see me commenting on more of your videos in the future :)
@@cryptozoid7152 Aww ty! the next videos should be just as good if not better, see you then 07
@@Choso_gaming plus stands technically can pass through infinity, as all stands can pass through objects n allat. hence he could put his arm in gojo then make it exist and bam, another donut for me to eat, and we all know he's a glazed one.
All I needed to hear was that Jolyne was weak and I knew this video was cap.
she's good in jjba allstar battle if that's what you're looking for
okay now make gojo vs every jojo villain
The script is like 80% done already for it already 🫡
@@Choso_gaming hell yea
Giorno can one shot without even needing to use Gold Experience Requiem if he's feeling really vicious. He could put someone in an unwinnable situation where he turned a car your in into a giant snake and if you try to kill the snake your inside the attack kills you instead.
A good question is since gojo's barrier affects physical objects, would it affect stands as they are not physical objects to say the least?
The real answer to this is I messed up on this part, Infinity works on things that intangible as well as physical and for the sake of how I said it would imply just physical. I have amended this in the DIO for the next script, good eye though 🫡
@@Choso_gaming okay thanks since I clearly saw curse energy being blocked, but simply wasn't assured between the two Stand and cursed energy,
@@joshuaeffendi491 at least for the sake of the two videos I am making they would be able to interact, but in reality they probably wouldn't work against each other without me stipulating it first.
Im not that sure Gojos calculations would work when time is stopped. Like you cant calculate without the process being able to "move".
Btw Jotaro negates the infinite barrier. Bcs its explained that it works on the principal of Achilles and the tortiose paradox. So to explain the paradox the tortoise always has a head start and Achilles needs to catch up for him it would be easy but mathematically its impossible bcs when he catches up to the tortoise it has already moved further and bcs the tortoise always has a headstart Achilles cant catch up with it ever. But if we say that Jotaro stops time the "tortoise stays in the same place" without moving so that means Achilles (being Jotaro)
can catch up and if someone says that Gojo has a strong idk strong body and starplatinum isnt strong wnough to hurt him. Well starplatinums hands can move 15,000x the speed of light and can deliver a force of 61.91 kilotons of TNT on the low end. Plus it could just put its hand through gojos chest and crush his heart or pull it out cs its not physical.
Ilove both anime.❤
I think you’ll be a lot more happy with the script I’m cooking for the next video bc I am totally get into how wonky the infinity and how timestop works within the JoJo universe. Gojo can has flatten kilometers of city blocks in the manga, so his is in a similar range of strength and I did calcs for it 🙏 when it comes to the speed stuff Jotaro could potentially blitz so I’ll put a part about that in the DIO entry too.
The issue I have with the whole stands ignore hax of JJK characters is there actual stand equivalents in their universe as well. Gojo has fought something along those lines with his barehands.
@@Choso_gaming iam not saying that Gojo doesnt see stands iam saykng that the inf barrier is negated by timestop
@@Choso_gaming btw looking forward for the video
@@BSStookmysoul thank you! I think timestop is a lot wonkier than people give it credit for but I will just show you instead tell later
I know a stand that can beat Gojo. It’s called Ozone Baby from Jojo part 8. He has the power to cause changes in the atmosphere of a person. If that person leaves a sealed room, they immediately start to feel their bodies being crushed in. If they go outside, then the crushing pressure will make the body cave in on himself. Since atmospheric pressure does not have a vector nor a velocity, it would bypass infinity. In fact ozone baby was so powerful that most of the Joestars could not defeat him.
Attacks that can just hit you without needing to make contact definitely work well on Gojo and this qualifies 👍
@@Choso_gamingWhat about heavy weather since it basically activates on sight and since gojo's infinity isn't stated to protect you from dangerous things activated by seeing them
I’d say since ozone baby has an area of affect, it would just stop before reaching gojo, but he’d have to specify stopping it.
My list of stands that beat gojo are:
Hanged man
Cream
Heavens door
Killer queen
Surface
Superfly
Rolling stones
Weather report
C-moon
Highway to hell
Bohemian rhapsody
Sugar mountain
Chocolate disco
Wonder of u
@@dandydanthedapperman7797 Nothing is touching Gojo. It’s just the atmosphere in an enclosed area. It’s like the same way Gojo can’t stop gravity. This stand is so powerful that it could beat most stands in Jojo given the correct circumstances
@@Choso_gaming Also see Weather Report from Part 6. His ability? He can control the weather.
Getting hit with inf death is worst than getting erased out of existence
Wow it’s not biased at all
Knowing Joseph he can find a way to kill Goku so uhh gojo wouldn’t be okay
No prep time allowed or friends for the video, but surely with speedwagon he would win
@@Choso_gaming he'll probably pull the same shit he did with kars and be like "yeah, i plan everything lol"
Honestly, yes. Joseph's sheer dumb luck and world bending plot armor could make him beat anyone
I don’t mean to be that guy but the reason sheer heart attack doesn’t destroy the building is because it has been said that Kira’s bombs are suppose to leave no trace
Kira meant that when he blows something up, it disappears. No blood, clothes or worn/held objects are left behind. Sheer heart attack does the same thing, but if you start a fire and he blows up in it, its going to do damage
you should make a video reviewing all the duck life games!
I decided it would be too much work 😢
Really love this analysis love the detailed thinking and the explanations of the stands. You did great look forward to seeing more creative videos like this
His sword won't......cut it...... hehehehe
Gojo vs Giorno is probably just a draw tho. While yes, infinite death loop is cool and all GER first needs to either kill or put Gojo into a near death state for the ability to activate, which combined with how little we really know about the limits of requiem stands doesn't prove that GER could bypass Gojo's infinity. Hence it's a draw
W channel bro idk why I keep finding these fire channels with 1k or less subs
I’m working on at least getting 1.1k subs 😵💫
time stop is a hard counter to infinity, infinity is a possible distance that is impossible to reach through progressive distance being created, i.e. the achilleas and the tortoise, being able to stop time is being able to cut the distance infinity creates over time, if theres no time to have such distance extended between gojo and jotaro there is no infinity, therefore using logic as its described in both series time is merely the counter to infinity, unless its deeper than that and i just dont know, if so tell me!
I do a longer explanation in the Gojo vs JoJo villains video, but it’s very complicated in general
Everybody gangsta till gojo casually insults josuke's hair
I would say if it was normal rules STAR PLATINUM ZA WARUDO would kill gojo since infinity couldn't know what is punching gojo since it would just be like being punched by a ghost
villains next? because i think ulf kars , diavalo, pucci, funny valentine and toruu all have a chance, kars, this could be a stalemate but kars is much stronger ,faster and has more durability, diavalo skipping time and seeing through infinity also one of diavalos deaths is him beating gojo but dying to cancer?, pucci infinite speed=infinite power or force, and gojo wouldnt be able to react, funny valentine w d4c lt slams, toruu is way to op
I think diavolo probably couldn’t get passed infinity unless he is able to touch Gojo, it really depends on how charitable you are with how timeskip/stop would work against infinity. Kars vs Gojo is probably a stalemate, I don’t think Gojo could kill him and Kars would need to likely evolve to have cursed energy to stand a chance, which he probably could do in character. Pucci and Valentine have way way beyond the hax Infinity can withstand, and I don’t know how wonder of u works properly but I know its op. I agree with you for the most part👍
@@Choso_gamingi think that Kira absolutely loses a 1v1, but with prep he could figure out a way to assassinate Gojo
You're wrong. Whats gojo gonna do when Joseph's genius plan which is totally on purpose launches gojo into outer space
i think everything is right except for Giorno, for the Infinite Death Loop to activate, Giorno would need to actually kill Gojo first, which he wouldn't be able to do due to infinite, so it would essentially be a stalemate, he could maybe win if Gojo eventually went out of energy
Giorno never kills diavolo to activate it, he just beats him up then a homeless guy stabs him. with return to zero, all actions are reset to zero, which would include infinity.
@Choso_gaming that isnt exactly how it works though. RTZ resets the will of an opponent who plans to do direct harm on Giorno. In part 5, we see that Diavolo's attack was reversed and "returned to zero" or to a state before his attack began. The only reason Giorno was able to then beat up Diavolo is becuase he just stood there confused. I dont think RTZ would reset Gojo's infinity barrier, because it isnt an attack on Giorno. Thus, Giorno would try to hit Gojo, and then find that he cannot. Stalemate.
@@Choso_gaming sorry about my lacking knowledge in JJK but isn't infinite a passive ability? or does Gojo have to willingly activate it?
Also Giorno does "kill" Diavolo with the Stand rush, that's what allows the death loop to start, otherwise Diavolo would've never let himself be stabbed by that man
@@hyperblaziken6572 as we see in eyes of heaven. Giorno goes to put DIO OH in a timeloop just by touching him, so with that information, Giorno was just pissed at Diavolo and barrages him. Because if Giorno dies, time reverses. And ger punches gojo, gojo can't see stands. So he is dead
@@Big_SungisYT EOH is non canon
part 5 was when the joestar blood finally realized that having physically broken ass stands is worse than having unbeatable hax stands
I expect this to be biased but there is always a chance
Soft and wet: "I'm taking away your privileges to breathe."
gojo can just keep distance and use hollow purple on Johnny, same thing with Josuke
I think the key problem with the idea of this is that both of these guys have extremely fast attacks, beating characters who would both beat Gojo. Those two characters being Funny Valentine and WoU respectively
6:23 the main issue with this is that GER's death loop doesnt activate until AFTER the target has died, as we see diavolo not being affected until after GER beat him to death
GER on its own has no way to bypass the Limitless, meaning this fight would result in a tie as neither can take the other down
now gojo vs jojo villains
On it 🫡
not much of a fight. Funny would just throw another Gojo at him, WoU would obliterate him, made in heaven would gain infinite speed and use it to bypass infinity, Diavolo looses. Kira looses. Dio looses. Kars adapts to his ability, making a draw. and pt1 dio isnt much of a fight
@@diobrando8217 I wonder what Ultimate Infinity would look like
@@l0sts0ul89 probably a way to control infinity and create bubbles of it around kars. You could trap people in a bubble of infinity or push them against two bubbles to crush them
AWE-SOME- VIDEO. REALLY. GREAT. I LOVED IT.
The sequel is already out if you wanna check it out too :p
@@Choso_gamingI am watching it now, but I just wanna say I liked the “proof of concept” way!
Giorno wins all the time
Wym? RTZ only activates after giorno strikes his opponent
@@lvlbrkr_editz you fool, thats infinite death loop. he didnt hit diavolo for RTZ to happen. did you read the manga or listen to the video lmao
“Bro that’s just a fuckig bubbl-“
“Lmao get plundered”
“WHY CANT I SEE?!”
“no more friction haha”
“WHY ARE THEY GETTING THROUGH MY INFINITY!?”
“bubble dont exist”
“WHAT THE FU- (dies)”
Gojo loses to jotaro in almost every stat, star platinum is faster than light while gojo is like supersonic. No shot gojo lands a good hit.
This issue with this argument is the hax Gojo possesses would be able to stun Jotaro, with infinite void. Infinite void possibly even kill him outright, as only cursed spirits have an innate resistance.
SP only has light speed reaction time and attack speed, he can't move at light speed. Additionally SP only has wall level destructive power and durability so the Red gojo used against jogo would outscale him
@@spicycaik359 sp scaled to the world and dio which was way stronger than wall level
@@butwhatif7401 pretty sure dio was also wall level, he only partly destroyed buildings so maybe hes like small building lvl but gojo is city lvl
@@spicycaik359 His durability easily keeps up with red.
Josuke's spin is an inherited ability from Johnny with an ability similar to Jolyne. A hair so thin it does not exist, that spins so infinitely fast that it transcends calamitous power.
Bro's mic became the fitness pacer test
Gojo: nothing can get past infinity.
Josuke au: thanks for the tip.
"So.. it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"
*Jotaro's theme starts playing*
Infinity wouldn’t be able to stop a stand unless you equate stands to curse energy. There’s so much evidence from Gege about how Gojo’s powers work that it’ll literally be impossible for the infinity to even work on hermit purple. For 1 Gojo can’t see a stand and even if he could they don’t have atoms or mass, they are literal embodiments of will. So unless you think infinity is boundless (which it’s not) and can just stop all concepts and phenomenon it won’t be able to stop a stand. Also it even says it’s based on Gojo’s senses by determining the mass and velocity of the incoming object or person, so if he’s also not fast enough he just loses or made of light (because photons are smaller and faster than atoms).
You clearly didn’t watch the video because I mention the stand thing within the first 10 seconds
“Since these characters are from different Universes, we will be doing a little bit of verse equalizations. To get this out of the way, Gojo can see and interact with stands, and stand users can see and interact Jujutsu sorcery.”
@@Choso_gaming me missing the first 10 seconds don’t equate to me not watching the whole video, I just missed that part. Was probably doing something while I had the video on and missed it.
"The bubble doesnt exists until it hits" the exact rules for the sure hit of the domain expansion 😭
I don’t see Johnny or Josuke beating Gojo. Tusk act 4 and Go beyond WOULD bypass infinity however there’s a few factors that would stop them from working
TUSK ACT 4
Tusk act 4’s infinite spin is crazy dangerous but there are two things that keeps it from working.
1. The start up
2. Hitting it
1. Tusk act 4 needs a horse in order to work. It can be done by either going a certain speed where it makes the golden rotation or by using a steel ball on it. Both options would take an amount of time (the horse can’t immediately go max speed) to start up.
You think Gojo would just be standing there twitling his thumbs? Gojo outspeeds Johnny by a lot. Gojo could just run (or teleport) up to Johnny before it activates and just kicks him away from his horse, or just use red or blue on it (which would also likely knock Johnny out of the fight since sbr characters don’t really have many good durability feats and blue was shown to immediately crush that one bald dude’s limbs during the goodwill event. I don’t think Johnny would be able to activate the golden spin in time.
But even if he was, he would have to land a direct hit on his chest or head for it to be fatal. Tusk act 4 can follow a target even if it misses but it’s always been shown to follow along a surface to hit. Gojo could just fly? Tusk act 4 wouldn’t be able to reach him at that point. Even then if it lands on his arm or leg he could cut it off before it spreads to the rest of his body like Diego did and he could even regen it via RCT.
I don’t see the infinite spin hitting Gojo before Gojo defeats Johnny.
Go beyond is even easier. Yes the attack would bypass infinity and you wouldn’t be able to see it but it doesnt seem to be too deadly? If I recall correctly Tooru got hit by one or two of those and was still able to walk to yasuho in order to try and use the rokakaka to transfer the damage. Unless Gappy lands one directly at his head Gojo could just heal any injuries with reverse curse technique.
In part 8 Johnny doesnt need his horse to use act 4. As for Gappy, yeah, while I agree, the problem Is more so Gappy not knowing how to aim Go Beyond
Great video, josuke from part 8 absolutely slams because of go beyond, nobody beats go beyond, earned a sub!
Gojo: ''Yo-''
Jotaro: *Star Platinum Za Warudo*
_time stops_
*ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA*
Jotaro: ''Yare Yare Daze''
**THE END**
Gojo's infinity by definition requires Gojo's brain to be calculating the incoming attacks, which isn't possible within stopped time.
there is one mistake ive noticed where i am, black flash does multiply but not just by 2.5 it multiples to the POWER of 2.5, yk like ^2.5
I mentioned this in another comment but there *some* debate on how to calc the ^2.5. I personally subscribe to the idea its closer x2.5 bc of how low the power level is generally. Though if we go by statements it’s ^2.5 and that’s how I put it in the next video
I wonder why nobody is doing gojo vs wonder of u💀
Saying Jotaro loses to gojo is almost criminal, its really 50/50 on whether he gets killed or time stops first because your logic for infinity working in stopped time is skewed, infinity while automatic still needs to process an attack to block it, because its more a filter than a wall and in stopped time it wouldn't be able to filter any attacks giving jotaro and easy win if time stop is pulled off since he can just tear gojo's head off
exactly the way i see it. I feel like they both have a good chance at each other.