I think you did a great job on the T8 commentary and I actually enjoy the combination of an experienced commentator paired with a less experienced one (In terms of gameplay knowledge). For me, the less experienced commentator is a good way to put things in an easier to understand perspective for someone like me who is a more casual player. Feels like we're both learning at the same time.
20:20 I think ideally commentary teams should be 1 nerd guy and 1 talker. Kinda like how WWE does (Though the FGC is so scared of admitting parallels that's been their primary viewership success) Ideally both should bounce off each other in a way that gives maximum entertainment.
Because smash was never part of the FGC. They wanted to do their own thing. I run a local and it basically just became a smash club. Nobody wanted to run trad FGC games other than the old heads like me. I converted a couple of people from melee, but not enough for it to matter.
The barrier of entry compared to smash, on top of the competition being what it is does it for me. The last fighter I played for any considerable length of time was baby's first FG aka MK9, and even then I pretty much just picked up scorpions basic kit, mashed at close range and hoped for the best. But the extended combos from these games are a thing of beauty and I'm just wondering how the developers incorporate so many different moves while avoiding infinite loops. The tekken characters are pretty crazy too, if only I had the nerve to get absolutely annihilated and pick myself up to do it again lul
My first local they put me on stream and when I played like ass the commentator put a really good spin on it talking ‘bout “I’d like to see more consistent play from bro” instead of just pointing out my errors.
I always like hearing your perspective from the commentators POV. Commentators aren't respected as much as I think they should be regardless of what game they play. I think the fact that you bring attention to it helps a lot because how many commentators are out there posting content? Of those commentators that ARE posting content, how many are out there shedding light on commentary topics? Very few. So thanks again TK. Love the Topic Talks whether it's regular or Gold Edition :) Keep it up.
I am primarily a street figher/tekken player and i watched your tekken top 8 and thought you did a great job. I have been a fan of yours for a while so I am biased but if you give it time I think you'll succeed a lot in the FGC.
Sounds like some hater ass energy. TK commentary and energy on the mic always gives great vibes man AND the work ethic to do it in multiple games? Goated
I watched a MainManSWE video on Kazuya when he got the smash trailer and he was suuuuuper harsh on the game. I don’t think the FGC respects smash regardless of who’s in our community. It’s really just a bonus for them if our community has problems.
Been a big fan of yours for years bro. It’s awesome to see you in Tekken 8 too. You are one of my favorite commentators in smash and now Tekken as well. Proud of you boss. Keep killin it.
Smash is arguably at its peak when the player is in college, cuz they have direct access to a scene. It might be hard to adjust to scenes outside of that space
I'm happy to see you successfully branching out to other games like Tekken, GBVS, and SF, I've always respected you for keeping it a buck and like you've said, you don't cast on games you don't care about! I'm glad you have the fire again and are learning/growing with other scenes because I truly believe you're one of the greatest to ever do it, and more people deserve to hear you on the mic. That tweet that you (rightfully) got annoyed by was so bullshit lol. But I'm sure that tons of people out there, just like me, will be listening to you and catch that spark of love for the game and it'll make all the difference. You deserve all your flowers and I'm here for you TK. The grind never ends
And you're perpetuating the hate by commenting shit like this. FGC is not hating, some people just didn't like it, much like *lots of people in Smash dislike their own casters for a multitude of reasons.* Whenever X is commentating just read the chat you'll see. Smash hates on smash commentary as well. You will not get away from X amount of people hating on X caster. It's really funny to me how TK talks about *one guy* in his video and you use the term "FGC", like he is the voice for all of the FGC. You're being extremely unfair and you don't even see it.
@@anonwalkerr I just wanna say this evan guy does not speak for majority of the fgc. TNS hired TK because they know he does phenomenal work on the mic. This evan guys wants to gate keep which not cool and does not help the scene grow at all. Also smashers do get alot of hate and this guy is clearly part of problem.
@@anonwalkerr I don't disagree with that, generally speaking. But I don't think that applies here. Also you were extremely bad faith in your first comment though. One guy does not equal FGC. He gets hired for Top 8s because they know he's good. So how can you say the FGC is hating when they are hiring him? The FGC likes TK, trust me I've played Tekken since Tekken 5 and I've heard his name well before I started dabbling in Smash Ultimate. (I was pretty late to Smash)
I usually comment on these to talk trash but fr, F*ck people who are talking about not wanting you on FGC commentary. You're hired because of your skillset and shouldn't be punished for transfering those skills to other games. Okay that was too serious, something something smash players picking up tekken to sidestep showers etc etc.
I think commentary needs a balance. If you have 2 people up there not knowing enough about the game it's a problem. If you have 2 people up there who knows all the frames and only talk about that and what combo could've or should've been done it's a problem. The best possible outcome is having one of each or two people who can do both well. The latter obviously being harder. I do agree with you though, I think energy and vibes are extremely important but I won't lie and say that knowledge isn't. It is, the question is, how much though? You obviously need to reach a certain level of knowledge before you can commentate X stage, imo. But I think you're already there honestly. I was just speaking generally.
What other types are there? Smash is a platform fighter, not a fighting game. Just like Naruto games aren't fighting games, but 3d brawlers. Smash is not a fighting game. Brawlhalla ain't a fighting game. Multiversus ain't a fighting game. They are fun, but they are not serious or fighting games. Its Like saying that dead by daylight is an fps.
I cant imagine that evan guy calls himself a professional in his field when he doesnt even know the 1st fundamental rule of video/audio production: sound is king, ppl will tolerate bad visuals but almsot NEVER tolerate bad audio. Should be embarrassed to say that shit in front of his peers with his whole chest
Losing isn't fun but I see plenty of streamers who will give props to their opponents. "Good block", "nice parry". Stuff like that. Everyone handles emotions differently. With that said, get that ass banned
they really just wanna see the same two people commentate the game and its not fair to those who want to get into the scene. Smash is a fighting game just as much as Street Fighter 6 or Tekken 8 and the FGC as a whole needs to realize that. Smash isn't just a cash grab arena fighter lmao
TK if you have any free style or lyrical skills, you should just make some tracks and drop an album, you be spit'n all the time, lol, may as add a beat to it,
After watching the video, the title feels a bit clickbaity and dramatic. I was expecting to see you go ham on some fool who straight up disrespected your craft on twitter, but what Evan said didn't feel nearly as cynical as how you took it. Still a great video tho as usual, and I still left a like.
Watch the vid. And then watch the next vid we already talked bro. And even so taking myself out of it I still don’t agree fully but even IN the vid I said I can see the merit of what he is talking about
No lie the commentary thing is bs you should be able to pursue games you like you dont have to be a viewer of 10+ years to join. i do think peple should be able to speak properly if they are going to be on the mic though because its nicer on the ears and i can learn about stuff i diddnt know and actually know instead of just oooohh ahhhhhh. but also they are legit gatekeeping and thats wrong. Also the multiversus idk if im hyped its like we had the game just for them to get less development and lie about characters coming out, than just rip the game out from under us. i didnt like that and if i do play it again it better have some cool commercials cause at this point im not interested
Smash killed itself with social justice and moral grandstanding. The community ate itself from the inside out. People get sick of political, social, and cultural commentary being forced onto them by man children. People like Visu who get caught cheating in charity events are the same ones preaching about morality. 😂
Smash is a fighting game in the same way mario kart is a racing game. It technically is, but I put them all under the "Mario game" bracket. Even nintendo agrees look how hard they try to make Smash Not a competitive game. Anyways im gonna play Halo infinite now...or was it original doom? Which ones the real fps?!?!?
Most of this video was really normal until the part where you claim the dude who didn't even watch your commentary was making a personal attack/subtweet about you after you lied to him that you were cool with him. Genuinely a really weird narcissistic thing to do please reflect on why you chose to view the situation that way
I only watch these videos for tk and his statements on what's going on in the gaming world. i'm not familiar with none of these new smashers. stopped watching after everybody got outed in 2020 😪🥱
I think you did a great job on the T8 commentary and I actually enjoy the combination of an experienced commentator paired with a less experienced one (In terms of gameplay knowledge). For me, the less experienced commentator is a good way to put things in an easier to understand perspective for someone like me who is a more casual player. Feels like we're both learning at the same time.
20:20 I think ideally commentary teams should be 1 nerd guy and 1 talker. Kinda like how WWE does
(Though the FGC is so scared of admitting parallels that's been their primary viewership success)
Ideally both should bounce off each other in a way that gives maximum entertainment.
thats why scar is the goat, wwe influence
Nah you'll always be the goat TK
Because smash was never part of the FGC. They wanted to do their own thing. I run a local and it basically just became a smash club. Nobody wanted to run trad FGC games other than the old heads like me. I converted a couple of people from melee, but not enough for it to matter.
The barrier of entry compared to smash, on top of the competition being what it is does it for me. The last fighter I played for any considerable length of time was baby's first FG aka MK9, and even then I pretty much just picked up scorpions basic kit, mashed at close range and hoped for the best. But the extended combos from these games are a thing of beauty and I'm just wondering how the developers incorporate so many different moves while avoiding infinite loops. The tekken characters are pretty crazy too, if only I had the nerve to get absolutely annihilated and pick myself up to do it again lul
My first local they put me on stream and when I played like ass the commentator put a really good spin on it talking ‘bout “I’d like to see more consistent play from bro” instead of just pointing out my errors.
That was a homie right there. Also a mark of a good commentator, making sure even the one who underperformed got some decent words about them
Literally helping you learn how to play as you’re going to back to watch your match. That’s 10/10 right there.
Keep it up TK loving hearing you in other scenes and commentating
I always like hearing your perspective from the commentators POV. Commentators aren't respected as much as I think they should be regardless of what game they play. I think the fact that you bring attention to it helps a lot because how many commentators are out there posting content? Of those commentators that ARE posting content, how many are out there shedding light on commentary topics? Very few. So thanks again TK. Love the Topic Talks whether it's regular or Gold Edition :) Keep it up.
I am primarily a street figher/tekken player and i watched your tekken top 8 and thought you did a great job. I have been a fan of yours for a while so I am biased but if you give it time I think you'll succeed a lot in the FGC.
Sounds like some hater ass energy. TK commentary and energy on the mic always gives great vibes man AND the work ethic to do it in multiple games? Goated
I watched a MainManSWE video on Kazuya when he got the smash trailer and he was suuuuuper harsh on the game. I don’t think the FGC respects smash regardless of who’s in our community. It’s really just a bonus for them if our community has problems.
Yea
Been a big fan of yours for years bro. It’s awesome to see you in Tekken 8 too. You are one of my favorite commentators in smash and now Tekken as well. Proud of you boss. Keep killin it.
Smash is arguably at its peak when the player is in college, cuz they have direct access to a scene. It might be hard to adjust to scenes outside of that space
I was surprised how good you vibed with Justin Wong on the mic (i think it was for Tekken pools?). Good stuff man
Nah, talk that talk TK! You are absolutely a BEAST at commentary. That throne is yours, rightfully so.
9:35 I love Lou Ratchett man hahahaha
glad you got the fire back keep it up TK
Tldw: I'm nice with it
I'm happy to see you successfully branching out to other games like Tekken, GBVS, and SF, I've always respected you for keeping it a buck and like you've said, you don't cast on games you don't care about! I'm glad you have the fire again and are learning/growing with other scenes because I truly believe you're one of the greatest to ever do it, and more people deserve to hear you on the mic. That tweet that you (rightfully) got annoyed by was so bullshit lol. But I'm sure that tons of people out there, just like me, will be listening to you and catch that spark of love for the game and it'll make all the difference. You deserve all your flowers and I'm here for you TK. The grind never ends
TK is a commentary GOAT
FGC cannot stop hating lol
And you're perpetuating the hate by commenting shit like this.
FGC is not hating, some people just didn't like it, much like *lots of people in Smash dislike their own casters for a multitude of reasons.* Whenever X is commentating just read the chat you'll see.
Smash hates on smash commentary as well. You will not get away from X amount of people hating on X caster.
It's really funny to me how TK talks about *one guy* in his video and you use the term "FGC", like he is the voice for all of the FGC. You're being extremely unfair and you don't even see it.
@@jonteguy the hate is so disproportionately faced towards smashers unfortunately. If you argue otherwise you’re just bad faith
@@anonwalkerr I just wanna say this evan guy does not speak for majority of the fgc. TNS hired TK because they know he does phenomenal work on the mic.
This evan guys wants to gate keep which not cool and does not help the scene grow at all. Also smashers do get alot of hate and this guy is clearly part of problem.
@@anonwalkerr I don't disagree with that, generally speaking. But I don't think that applies here. Also you were extremely bad faith in your first comment though. One guy does not equal FGC.
He gets hired for Top 8s because they know he's good. So how can you say the FGC is hating when they are hiring him? The FGC likes TK, trust me I've played Tekken since Tekken 5 and I've heard his name well before I started dabbling in Smash Ultimate. (I was pretty late to Smash)
@@jonteguy ‘extremely bad faith’ =/ one jokey blanket statement with no argument lol give me a break
I usually comment on these to talk trash but fr, F*ck people who are talking about not wanting you on FGC commentary. You're hired because of your skillset and shouldn't be punished for transfering those skills to other games. Okay that was too serious, something something smash players picking up tekken to sidestep showers etc etc.
I think commentary needs a balance. If you have 2 people up there not knowing enough about the game it's a problem. If you have 2 people up there who knows all the frames and only talk about that and what combo could've or should've been done it's a problem.
The best possible outcome is having one of each or two people who can do both well. The latter obviously being harder.
I do agree with you though, I think energy and vibes are extremely important but I won't lie and say that knowledge isn't. It is, the question is, how much though? You obviously need to reach a certain level of knowledge before you can commentate X stage, imo. But I think you're already there honestly. I was just speaking generally.
I agree with this
TK firing shots 😭🤣🫡
Tk you are the goat. Ee and coney and tk are untouchable.
It's like when Capcom told Mike Ross that Capcom Pro Talk was a waste of time. Fuck em. You are a great commentator. Black Plague forever
M2K catching M2Strays
It’s very simple, some fgc fans only think the only type of fighting games is traditional fighting games.
What other types are there? Smash is a platform fighter, not a fighting game. Just like Naruto games aren't fighting games, but 3d brawlers.
Smash is not a fighting game. Brawlhalla ain't a fighting game. Multiversus ain't a fighting game.
They are fun, but they are not serious or fighting games.
Its Like saying that dead by daylight is an fps.
on the real, keep it up tk, spite those that are preying on your downfall!
11:53 nah this is actually insane, how do you take a double L
I cant imagine that evan guy calls himself a professional in his field when he doesnt even know the 1st fundamental rule of video/audio production: sound is king, ppl will tolerate bad visuals but almsot NEVER tolerate bad audio. Should be embarrassed to say that shit in front of his peers with his whole chest
Losing isn't fun but I see plenty of streamers who will give props to their opponents. "Good block", "nice parry". Stuff like that. Everyone handles emotions differently. With that said, get that ass banned
Fuck em Tk keep doing yo thing g
they really just wanna see the same two people commentate the game and its not fair to those who want to get into the scene. Smash is a fighting game just as much as Street Fighter 6 or Tekken 8 and the FGC as a whole needs to realize that. Smash isn't just a cash grab arena fighter lmao
you were teaching me a lot abt the game, i dont even get the ppl saying youre "inexperienced" youre the most experienced
Idk man
It's like Smashing is to Winning as a racist guy's daughter is to money from alt right scene
My man is the greatest of all time and he knows it 🔥
Dang, the WonderChef L.
14:56 100%
lolol evan dude is a career commentator with a lisp of course he feels that bad talkers should get the job
TK if you have any free style or lyrical skills, you should just make some tracks and drop an album, you be spit'n all the time, lol, may as add a beat to it,
what is mana monthly? lol is there really a n*zi smash group??
After watching the video, the title feels a bit clickbaity and dramatic. I was expecting to see you go ham on some fool who straight up disrespected your craft on twitter, but what Evan said didn't feel nearly as cynical as how you took it.
Still a great video tho as usual, and I still left a like.
I don’t pick the titles usually so I agree with you and it will be changed
why would your political views ever matter at a video game tournament? is that neccessary? 12:20
Yo tk who cares you cool and funny and you get bag. That’s sounds like legacy to me.
This is def some hating energy they throwing at you
You will always be the goat in commentary TK much love 💕
wonderchef's tweet literally did not reference you nor did he even watch TNS, why are you just boldface mis interpreting the situation.
Watch the vid. And then watch the next vid we already talked bro. And even so taking myself out of it I still don’t agree fully but even IN the vid I said I can see the merit of what he is talking about
No lie the commentary thing is bs you should be able to pursue games you like you dont have to be a viewer of 10+ years to join. i do think peple should be able to speak properly if they are going to be on the mic though because its nicer on the ears and i can learn about stuff i diddnt know and actually know instead of just oooohh ahhhhhh. but also they are legit gatekeeping and thats wrong. Also the multiversus idk if im hyped its like we had the game just for them to get less development and lie about characters coming out, than just rip the game out from under us. i didnt like that and if i do play it again it better have some cool commercials cause at this point im not interested
Smash killed itself with social justice and moral grandstanding. The community ate itself from the inside out. People get sick of political, social, and cultural commentary being forced onto them by man children. People like Visu who get caught cheating in charity events are the same ones preaching about morality. 😂
Smash is a fighting game in the same way mario kart is a racing game. It technically is, but I put them all under the "Mario game" bracket. Even nintendo agrees look how hard they try to make Smash Not a competitive game. Anyways im gonna play Halo infinite now...or was it original doom? Which ones the real fps?!?!?
Most of this video was really normal until the part where you claim the dude who didn't even watch your commentary was making a personal attack/subtweet about you after you lied to him that you were cool with him. Genuinely a really weird narcissistic thing to do please reflect on why you chose to view the situation that way
I only watch these videos for tk and his statements on what's going on in the gaming world. i'm not familiar with none of these new smashers. stopped watching after everybody got outed in 2020 😪🥱