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  • @skoolwifi3835
    @skoolwifi3835 27 днів тому +137

    I'm convinced some people don't like flavor in their commentary. Honestly some commentators be doing way too much yapping

    • @AnenLaylle
      @AnenLaylle 27 днів тому

      That Kel chick is like an auctioneer. She needs a little coaching from the boys. Her commentary is good, and I really think females make great commentators, but she needs to take a Xanax or something before going on stream.

    • @dontcaremate
      @dontcaremate 27 днів тому +20

      theres a difference between ‘flavor’ and people having to actually turn off stream audio because its so loud

    • @taccm386
      @taccm386 27 днів тому

      jorges commentary in the junebug set was atrocious full stop, voice breaking every second, some of the worst bias ive ever seen in commentary, and fucking breaking out into tears after junebug won??? Grown ass man acting like that he deserves to get shit for that.

    • @valushartless5130
      @valushartless5130 27 днів тому +2

      Dawg he's literally yelling so much his voice was half gone

    • @redwarrior118
      @redwarrior118 27 днів тому +4

      Flavor of the day is gravel 🤣

  • @mobyashouri112
    @mobyashouri112 27 днів тому +141

    can we please move the smash scene off of twitter somehow

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +81

      you're kinda spitting.

    • @ultimateclayton1000
      @ultimateclayton1000 27 днів тому +5

      This

    • @Juelz_GnW
      @Juelz_GnW 26 днів тому +15

      We need to go back to smashboards

    • @jonathansong855
      @jonathansong855 20 днів тому +1

      Cant. Twitter has become the town square for media, games, and everything in between.

  • @JBreeze
    @JBreeze 27 днів тому +49

    100% agree the bad moments that Jorge have are horrible. Glad you played that Game 1 clip of Junebug v Joshman because it gives necessary context.
    And I still dont get why Walt gets shit on when in that clip, my opinion is that he provides good energy and excitement for seeing Junebug take Game 1.

  • @unclen2479
    @unclen2479 27 днів тому +83

    The cool part of Scar & Toph was the balance between game knowledge, hype & professionalism. When they were on comms it felt like watching NHL, NFL, NBA with the quality of commentary. And a lot of the OGs, including yourself, HMW, etc also reflect that style as well.
    The new melee commentary feels a bit watered down. Jorge just sounds like someone handed him a mic and told him to say whatever he wants. It doesn't feel like esports or a professional sports commentator at all. It feels like handing a streamer the mic and letting them say shit. Its mad annoying. Everyone I know mutes his commentary. Walt isn't bad but he tries to match the hype of Jorge which reflects badly bc Jorge takes it too far. We all understand they have a bias for Junebug for example, but the way they get reminds me of someone standing behind me while Im playing a set and screaming hyped up for my opponent. Thats the vibe a lot of others have as well. Which is OKAY, in doses, at the right volumes, without being a dick, but not ALL the time.

    • @jaidsalgado
      @jaidsalgado 27 днів тому

      Perfectly said. Jorge is ass, genuinely.

    • @Popmycherryyo
      @Popmycherryyo 27 днів тому +3

      I'll agree, but lets be real, in the later years Toph got...ugh... I almost felt he was the character that is portrayed in South Park, that PC Principal guy. It was awful and draining to watch and listen to. Whilst Scar was, as always (IMO), priestine..

    • @NihilisaFrank
      @NihilisaFrank 27 днів тому

      Closest melee has to a tastosis for real

  • @TheTvSmash
    @TheTvSmash 27 днів тому +175

    The melee community could never survive listening to SuperGirlKels

    • @adrian_pagan
      @adrian_pagan 27 днів тому +3

      lole

    • @chromabpd
      @chromabpd 27 днів тому +2

      Real

    • @heyitsmort7744
      @heyitsmort7744 27 днів тому +43

      I actually don’t mind Kels when she’s on the mic with someone lowkey/conversational like EE. It’s when she gets into e-sports mode that it’s rough, same with Haz. Honestly I think melee comms are a lot better than Ult’s, both more knowledgeable/play by play and less cringey

    • @amoralpedantic
      @amoralpedantic 27 днів тому +12

      Kels = Corporate, corny, and cringe. Everyone else is actually ok.

    • @collegeoffoliage6776
      @collegeoffoliage6776 27 днів тому +10

      Bro, she's actually a good commentator.

  • @s_gaming71
    @s_gaming71 27 днів тому +55

    I understand that jorge went overboard but if im completely honest, I was watching those matches live and I was hyped for the DK run and it did not bother me at all, I was excited to see a commentator loosing his mind and it did not bother me at all. If it did bother me, I could very easily just mute the stream and watch the match myself, its not a big deal. The commentary is optional to me and its there if you wanna hear it. It was a hype moment and I had fun watching it. Again I undestand he went over the line for some people probably but in the moment, I didnt even notice and i enjoyed the moment for what it was.

    • @carrickgames
      @carrickgames 27 днів тому +14

      @@s_gaming71 I was at supernova and everyone was literally screaming watching junebug vs joshman. That was the craziest set I’ve ever seen in person. Jorge was just matching the crowd but unfortunately the people on stream couldn’t hear the crowd

    • @Magibatproductions
      @Magibatproductions 27 днів тому +1

      Cool beans

    • @veggie4876
      @veggie4876 26 днів тому

      The thing for me is that Jorge does this constantly and talks over co-commentators. The fact that muting a stream is a proposed solution is insane, at this point I'd appreciate a restream that only has game audio. Jorge doesn't have to leave, or stop commentating, or anything drastic like that. I just wish I could enjoy watching my favorite video game without having to hear him screaming at the top of his lungs over a dashback f smash

  • @cheesycheese7100
    @cheesycheese7100 27 днів тому +23

    Its just exhausted when every melee clip you have two dudes SCREAMING, straight nerding out over every little interaction

    • @dackmanj4728
      @dackmanj4728 26 днів тому

      Why I don't miss following smash comp lol

    • @danielhernandez2575
      @danielhernandez2575 26 днів тому +3

      because this game takes actual skill when going for those interactions, not like shit ultimate lmao go back to that.

    • @cheesycheese7100
      @cheesycheese7100 26 днів тому +1

      @@danielhernandez2575 keep stroking

  • @ian5736
    @ian5736 27 днів тому +11

    Don't know if this was mentioned, but another reason Jorge had beef in the chat that flowed over to Twitter was because he'd kicked off an Ult commentator who'd tried to sub in for Junebug for Top 8. Understand why he did it, called in a better fit for the block (Walt), but came off a little rude - chat was saying 'LET HIM BACK ON,' 'apologize,' 'why doesn't Jorge leave' etc before the Junebug set even began - felt like it started off on the wrong foot, AND he'd already lost his voice earlier from screaming for Junebug in the crowd.

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +16

      there is simply no way y'all believed that was anything more than a bit???? like........actually. y'all had to know that was a joke right that they came up with themselves right?

    • @ian5736
      @ian5736 27 днів тому +1

      @TKbreezy that's hilarious - and to clarify, I loved commentary, wasn't in the chat, just watched... but I just don't think chat got it cuz they were anti-Jorge from the jump after that, felt like it kicked off some of the bad vibes

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +8

      @@ian5736 oh nah i can agree with that part tho feel like a "kick someone off" bit when people are kind at your neck already might not be it.

  • @StubbyTheGiant
    @StubbyTheGiant 27 днів тому +13

    Losing your voice and continuing to turn it up just ain't a professional look.

  • @Psyrhi
    @Psyrhi 27 днів тому +57

    TK, you and EE have found a balance. Thing is, everyone is out to market themselves and it's clear as day. Jorge consistently screaming after being criticized many times shows he clearly is doing it for himself.

    • @tileguy918
      @tileguy918 27 днів тому +18

      Tbh jorge getting criticized for screaming is kinda dumb. He does it because he loves the game and because the shit that happened is hype as fuck. Like TK said, the melee community just hates commentators who get hype... they also hate commentators who never get hype, or commentators that aren't funny, or commentators that are funny, or commentators who don't talk about the game, or commentators who do talk about the game
      The melee community just hates their commentators

    • @Thierce
      @Thierce 27 днів тому +4

      @@tileguy918 I don't see anyone hating on Scar, HMW, Lovage or Vish...

    • @ezekieledwards7092
      @ezekieledwards7092 27 днів тому +4

      @@tileguy918it literally takes away from everything in the broadcast when you yell constantly. It’s hard to balance the audio and the viewing experience is just worse. Jorge does not care if his commentary is good and he doesn’t make any efforts to improve at commentating.

    • @FinalKaiserKami
      @FinalKaiserKami 25 днів тому

      @@Thierce they have legacy. Melee community are pussies when it comes to someone who has legacy and clout either in melee or in the FGC. Talk a lot of shit but won't back it up.

  • @Sweeper918
    @Sweeper918 27 днів тому +13

    There's being hype for the moment and then there's being loud for the obligation of feeling like you have to be loud. Jorge was the latter.

  • @TonyStorm21
    @TonyStorm21 27 днів тому +42

    nlg, I've always hated Haz's weird sounds in comms, but I understand that's on me and has nothing to do with how the community sees that as a whole, so I can understand to some degree, that being said the main reason why I love japanese comms is because how hype and screamy it gets even if sometimes it makes absolutely no sense or we're watching Sparg0 about to beat Tea and the comms is just a bunch of guys screaming "DANGER" and "JUSTICE" over and over during the last stock, it's hilarious.

    • @defectivesickle5643
      @defectivesickle5643 27 днів тому +4

      Could also be a contributing factor is that you don't know what Japanese comms are saying

    • @TonyStorm21
      @TonyStorm21 27 днів тому +7

      @@defectivesickle5643 I understand them tho.
      It does apply for French comms however.

    • @defectivesickle5643
      @defectivesickle5643 27 днів тому

      @@TonyStorm21 Oh shit

    • @royalbidoof6135
      @royalbidoof6135 26 днів тому +1

      When Haz is on comms I already know I’m about to hear this grown man spam the word “goat” over and over again for the next hour or so. So annoying. FIND ANOTHER WORD. PLEASE.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 21 день тому +2

      @@TonyStorm21 As someone who doesn't understand Japanese but understands French, the French commentary is hilarious.

  • @chocomilkfps1264
    @chocomilkfps1264 27 днів тому +6

    I think you’re spot on with Jorge. I actually love that he’s hype but if that hype means he can’t even speak then maybe a public speaking role isn’t the best fit. Just my two cents.
    On a more positive note I personally think the smash games are blessed with a lot of superb commentators. Just off the top of my head: Scar, Coney, EE, HMW, Max, you(Tk), Toph, Walt, Vikki, Vish, Virum… all professional, entertaining, and knowledgeable.. I even appreciate the different knowledge styles, I enjoy Walt dropping a crazy statistic, but I also enjoy HMW explaining how the community’s perception of something has evolved over time.
    The only commentators who make me auto-mute or turn off the stream are:
    Hazmat - talks too much about himself and has a tendency to drag on.
    Kels - Tons of words, no substance, quite loud.
    Wisely - very pedantic, dragssss on.

  • @TheTvSmash
    @TheTvSmash 27 днів тому +36

    To be fair, Jorge was matching the energy of the crowd. The stream can’t really hear that though.

  • @SquattingxBear
    @SquattingxBear 27 днів тому +29

    Genuinely could not fucking stand Jorge's "commentary"; dude was just shrieking at every interaction with a raspy voice, provided next to no analytical value; shit made me leave the stream.

    • @mercuriiexe4112
      @mercuriiexe4112 27 днів тому +13

      i would honestly take a commentator getting hype over ones that go on tangents that have nothing to do with the actual match

    • @SquattingxBear
      @SquattingxBear 27 днів тому

      @mercuriiexe4112 Honestly, that's just as bad, don't know why it happens do often.

    • @OGamelon
      @OGamelon 27 днів тому +3

      Sometimes nothing interesting is going on and you gotta pad the time
      Not everyone is good at it bruv

    • @vanillafella4893
      @vanillafella4893 27 днів тому +2

      @@OGamelonthe goal as commentator is to make the gameplay always feel interesting

    • @asianman7945
      @asianman7945 26 днів тому

      @@mercuriiexe4112idk why it’s a one or the other thing I’d rather have neither unless the tangent is really funny and the gameplay is real boring at the time

  • @The_Breaded92
    @The_Breaded92 27 днів тому +21

    Yall should like comment and subscribe for the goat TK

    • @rocketman093
      @rocketman093 27 днів тому

      Yerrrrrr

    • @Jaycan
      @Jaycan 27 днів тому

      Yup we out here!

    • @Lozzu
      @Lozzu 27 днів тому

      ok

    • @cosmic_owl7496
      @cosmic_owl7496 27 днів тому +1

      jokes on you. I already liked, comment, and subscribed ;)

  • @pikapac2281
    @pikapac2281 25 днів тому +2

    i really like that walt style toph does it sometimes too and its really interesting i also dont mind the yap fests but sometimes they suck

  • @Xelious
    @Xelious 27 днів тому +5

    I was more bothered that it sounded like Jorge was riding Mango's junk every time he commentated any of his matches. But I guess he was supposed to be the one talking about what Mango was doing.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 26 днів тому

      To be fair... Every commentator rides on Mango, scar and toph have done so, hmw and D1 have in the past.

  • @pocketvices
    @pocketvices 27 днів тому +8

    Actually i fw armada comms, i don't play melee but i seen at least 50 sets by now over the years n yea.. it's never hit but s/o 'melee it on me' channel that dudes funny lol draft em for comms

  • @Astar72439
    @Astar72439 27 днів тому +3

    only commentary gripes i had was just Jorge. everything else was great from the tourney, but man it was hard to watch the match with mans screamin every 2 seconds

  • @phantom9six
    @phantom9six 27 днів тому +5

    Good video! Mad I missed it live and that he didn't talk about that one clip from melee commentary of the dude getting kicked off

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +1

      @@phantom9six oh it was just a lil skit they did it was funny I guess but not something I would have wanted to do

    • @blueheart9873
      @blueheart9873 27 днів тому +1

      Yeah, that was a joke

  • @user-bkey
    @user-bkey 27 днів тому +4

    i hate how melee treats commentators. walt is the antichrist of the community for literally 0 reason because i'm guessing people don't like to see commentators actually look into the details of the game?? like what kind of mindset is that and then people turn around and say "i hate people who know nothing about the game" like people just don't know what they want. i think the only problem was that jorge got pretty loud but it was winners semis with a donkey kong vs a very good fox player so idk i just don't see it.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 26 днів тому

      Wait, really? he usually gets a lot of likes for his videos, and I personally love that he covers top 8's at majors since I don't always feel like watching the full sets sometimes.

    • @user-bkey
      @user-bkey 26 днів тому +1

      @@666blaziken yes definitely, it's probably just a loud small amount of players but i've definitely seen people on twitch and twitter complain about walt on commentary. from what i know his videos are pretty well received though.

    • @sageryfrekenstein
      @sageryfrekenstein 21 день тому +2

      I think the main criticism of Walt is sometimes he is so analytical that he just kinda guesses certain things as if he is 100% sure, which of course Melee players don't like because a lot of them know what is actually going on. Otherwise, I think he's improved a lot and is one of the only people really worth mentioning in the current era, that wasn't established already

  • @nineengine8300
    @nineengine8300 21 день тому

    Gotta say something I really respect about these videos is the nuance in your thoughts/opinions. Whether it be petty drama like people not liking commentary, or serious allegations, you always get into the actual info and give it genuine thought, which is refreshing to see after scrolling through twitter and witnessing the guilty until proven innocent, hivemind/mob mentality that's so prevalent on there (and the internet in general tbh). As someone who's considered competing, it's scary to see how easily you can become a villain in the community's eyes.

  • @originoa
    @originoa 27 днів тому +1

    That's why I'm so grateful for ee and Larry restreams- u shud do em too

  • @matthiusnielson8868
    @matthiusnielson8868 27 днів тому +1

    I did remember thinking the melee commentators weren’t that good at the Scuffed tourney, muted them ever since

  • @blackace72
    @blackace72 27 днів тому +1

    11:53 basically you’re the perfect compliment to any commentator. That sounds like a really amazing thing

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +3

      I try to be at least lol

  • @tracystallworth1239
    @tracystallworth1239 22 дні тому

    Jorge and Junebug are very close friends so I can understand the excitement he felt to see one of his close friends doing so well against a very skilled player. Also to see a character that has been considered bad for 20 years do well in a modern tournament can be very emotional for some people who are very invested into the game.

  • @St0rmaL
    @St0rmaL 27 днів тому +4

    I liked the commentary in top 16 from Walt and (I’m sorry I don’t know his name) because it kinda felt like Walt had everything under control and he was really analyzing the positions and the other commentator was going absolutely crazy, I liked it because there was like a balance between the two of actual analysis and just straight hype

  • @Dark_Tesla
    @Dark_Tesla 18 днів тому

    I don’t follow smash but you won me over when you did SC6 commentary and always happy to hear you in other games.

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 26 днів тому

    Ive been to locals where a commentator said "oh, peach pulled a toad out of her dress... I wonder what else is under that dress" ever since then, i have yet to see any "bad commentary" top that moment.

  • @thegeeeeeeeeee
    @thegeeeeeeeeee 27 днів тому +5

    Later on he was crying cuz he was so proud of his friend Jubebug. For me, that emotion, is hype!! It’s real! It’s unique! It’s funny!
    People just love to hate and have become entitled viewers now. They like to just cry and whine like little babies. The commentary is what it is. People should just go with the flow.

  • @ejbock5b179
    @ejbock5b179 27 днів тому +4

    I think a lot of color commentary in smash could learn from Launders in the CS2 world.

  • @ellok3677
    @ellok3677 27 днів тому +2

    i am not gonna sugarcoat it. it is jorge only, get him off the mic. simple as that. no, he is neither a bad person because of this, nor is he less worthy than any other human being. it is no "hate", i do not hate him. his commentary is just plain bad. it is like a stranger next to you who drank way too much shouting in your ear constantly on an event. annoying. i am bad at many things, i could name 100 things in which i am probably worse than jorge. but not commentating ssbm. i would do better.

  • @Beastmd
    @Beastmd 27 днів тому +1

    Saw you at supernova bro, had no idea you were that tall LMAO

  • @Noah-is8we
    @Noah-is8we 27 днів тому +3

    I think some of the complaining about the melee commentary also has to do with the standard the community holds them to. Melee already had some super good commentators in the past and ultimate is in a really good spot right now with people like TK and others

    • @originoa
      @originoa 27 днів тому

      Going from e e t k scar n em to this ??? Garbo

  • @NihilisaFrank
    @NihilisaFrank 27 днів тому +2

    I think it’s also important to remember that when some of the most egregious “questionable” choices for Jorge’s commentary happened, junebug was supposed to be *in the booth* doing commentary for top 8 but was having the run of his life.
    Jorge really delivered on the level of near camp with how much he was trying to hype up somewhat standard punishes from
    Junebug, but with how the crowd was I’m sure he just kind of reflexively fed off of it and didn’t filter himself. It’s not a great look but it’s not the end of the world or a need for any indictment of commentators as a whole, I felt like the roster they had was pretty damn good

  • @thephantomkeith2656
    @thephantomkeith2656 27 днів тому +7

    I think everyone's always looking for something to be mad at. Obviously some commentators are better than others, but I've only felt annoyed when folks can't stop riding Mang0, or need to pretend Steve or Sonic are fun to watch.

    • @name8329
      @name8329 27 днів тому +1

      People have been mad at jorges awful commentary for a while

  • @samiperfecto
    @samiperfecto 25 днів тому

    I felt spoiled with all the great commentary from round 1 pools all the way to grand finals. Appreciate the job everybody did. Can things improve? I’m sure. I hope we are giving healthy feedback to such great people that are giving so much to us the community

  • @Belive7heHype
    @Belive7heHype 27 днів тому +1

    Walt is amazing commentator he is one of the most knowledgeable members of the community.

  • @ThePortjumper
    @ThePortjumper 26 днів тому +2

    god smashers complain about everything, bro it was one match of Jorge screaming over a hype moment, y'all overblow every little inconvenience, like we've been having the same circular conversation about commentary for years, I'm just glad there is commentary at this point and I just see Jorge as a guy who gets a little too excited, twitter discourse is more annoying than the commentary

  • @newjumpcityjosh9333
    @newjumpcityjosh9333 25 днів тому +1

    People love when Japanese commentators scream at the top of their lungs 😅

  • @kalleb92
    @kalleb92 27 днів тому +1

    Personally don't mind flavor (jokes) in commentary and usually like them getting hype but I do find it annoying when commentators get so far off topic that is like "wtf can you just talk about what's happening in the game and not your random thoughts."

  • @Absol_XIII
    @Absol_XIII 27 днів тому +2

    Well the karaoke was hype.

  • @ThePizzaGuy5000
    @ThePizzaGuy5000 27 днів тому +2

    I’m not on twitter so idk if anyone has said anything about this, but listening to HazMatt commentate Asimo was a bit much. Extremely biased and generally just annoying to listen to

  • @sprout_c06
    @sprout_c06 27 днів тому +1

    As someone in the crowd of Supernova, I really enjoyed listening to the commentary especially because they occasionally had it muted. The times where the commentary popped off were also the times when the audience did too. The audience at this event was the loudest at any event that I have seen, and in some ways the commentary matched that energy. This event was the most fun I’ve had in a while, and at this point people are just making drama for the sake of drama

  • @Raykushi
    @Raykushi 27 днів тому +1

    Ngl I don't care about the commentary I thought it was perfectly fine lmao
    It's not just about the play, it's also about the cirumstances. It's a DONKEY KONG in top 8, I mean lets get the blood MOVIN lol

  • @koolthing18
    @koolthing18 27 днів тому

    We're all just ready for some real change. Good shit to those that made the best of it.
    Pro tip: Don't even listen to commentary until Top 8. Let Larry Lurr's watch party guide you through Day 1 and 2. Once top 8 starts, only the best commentators remain.

  • @BlackCatCards
    @BlackCatCards 27 днів тому

    TK you are so goated you make every match better when you’re on comms

  • @Str8EdgeJesse
    @Str8EdgeJesse 26 днів тому

    "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but often times better than a master of one.” 11:39

  • @PeebusGriffin
    @PeebusGriffin 27 днів тому +1

    Thanks for signing my pants :3

  • @rockyino99
    @rockyino99 20 днів тому

    smash commentary is so good during top 8s, alot of commenators have personality, knowledge and hype. but anything lower than top 8 smash commentary is way too filled with off topic discussion, reciting memes, talking about tier list and past games. If smash commentators could stick to actually talking about the match at hand its amazing, but the community lets the off topic commentary slide too much . i see people defend it with "its fun to me" "not everything has to be professional''. ive seen full games go by with not a single sentence said about the matches on screen. no other esports i watch gets off topic as smash bros

  • @senorbuen0
    @senorbuen0 26 днів тому

    I haven't used Twitter in about a month and I coincidentally didn't find anything off-putting about commentary this time. Just a thought (plus I was watching on Larry's yt stream which has barely any toxicity if at all)

  • @porigonzet4275
    @porigonzet4275 24 дні тому

    Honestly, youre a quite balanced one, paired well with anyone as far as I know. Also, I love your B+ analyses😂 I dont like to hear what we just witnessed as its unnecessary to be noted. Void said great players see what happened before a great play, not the play itself. Same can be said about commentators

  • @GSEleven
    @GSEleven 27 днів тому

    Originally I was going to try to be one of the few that convince you to be a Melee commentator despite the negative crowd, but after hearing your experience of criticism (and just blatant hate) I get you.

  • @brett1908
    @brett1908 26 днів тому

    I watched the 64 combo contest from supernova, the first thing I noticed was how bad the commentary was. Especially if you watch any of the older ones, and one of the two castors didn’t know anything about the game. Jorge shouldn’t do commentary if he doesn’t know the game. On top of that Walt and Jorge felt conflicting in their commentary, they did not mesh well. Although I do like Walt’s commentary.

  • @jonathancangelosi2439
    @jonathancangelosi2439 26 днів тому

    Honestly it might just be that the crowd is barely audible so the yelling sounds out of place on stream. If the crowd sounded louder on stream I don’t think it would sound as jarring. I agree the negativity is out of control though, and I don’t want to live in a world where people are shamed for getting excited about a video game.

  • @ezekieledwards7092
    @ezekieledwards7092 27 днів тому +1

    Jorge’s voice is literally going hoarse it’s a terrible listening experience.

  • @toot1231
    @toot1231 26 днів тому

    That one guy who was with HMW wouldnt stfu about had to mute

  • @saleenf5
    @saleenf5 27 днів тому +1

    Jorge is just too loud, like the dude is fine but really just needs to not yell as much.

  • @ArturitoBurrito
    @ArturitoBurrito 27 днів тому

    Those players should sue for their travels funds.

  • @Mama_Peach
    @Mama_Peach 27 днів тому

    Thanks for being cool Tk

  • @Dman40000
    @Dman40000 27 днів тому

    Shoutout to Fauster

  • @MasterHandSpazz
    @MasterHandSpazz 24 дні тому

    I hate Coney's commentary. It's generic and biased and he's to quick to count characters/players out prior to their preformance. As a commentator myself 😅

  • @randommexican6676
    @randommexican6676 27 днів тому

    What’s that opening music

  • @sgth99
    @sgth99 26 днів тому

    Melee commentary been bad before jorge the only good smash commentators are you, EE, HMW, and scar before he got kinda washed
    😂
    Frfr after watch alot of other FGC tournaments almost no one holds a candle to the perfect mix of analysis and hype that even some of the lesser know FGC commentators have its kinda night and day and it makes me sad everytime

  • @mylan_p
    @mylan_p 27 днів тому

    TK the goat

  • @timothypulliam2177
    @timothypulliam2177 27 днів тому +1

    Am I the only one who enjoyed all the commentators? Each person had their own personality and flair

    • @jaidsalgado
      @jaidsalgado 27 днів тому +3

      There's no way you can enjoy Jorge. He's terrible

    • @mL-7992
      @mL-7992 27 днів тому

      @@jaidsalgado preach

  • @originoa
    @originoa 27 днів тому

    All I know is Jorge is garbo

  • @carrickgames
    @carrickgames 27 днів тому +1

    personally i really like Jorge's commentary

  • @alexchan8548
    @alexchan8548 27 днів тому

    Tk you ae the goat

  • @_m099
    @_m099 27 днів тому +1

    I’m usually someone who doesn’t care to complain about commentators but the guy with the weird voice was so unbearable to listen to at times lmao

  • @Daniel982-d7z
    @Daniel982-d7z 27 днів тому +4

    Haz was extremely annoying. He comes off as very self-centered. All of the other ultimate smash commentators were fantastic.

  • @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl
    @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl 24 дні тому

    Yeah that clip you showed is pretty cringe.

  • @Keeby.
    @Keeby. 20 днів тому

    10:40 just say they dawg he/she/they is just doing too much

  • @dakkat7199
    @dakkat7199 23 дні тому

    Just leave the smash scene man, FGC is much more friendly to black commentators (Smash is a sinking ship)

  • @firstlast3313
    @firstlast3313 27 днів тому +1

    Thank god we have something to talk about other than pronouns

  • @pocketvices
    @pocketvices 27 днів тому +11

    Melee commentary ain't never been good

    • @Dman40000
      @Dman40000 27 днів тому +9

      L zoomer take

    • @jrpggolden6243
      @jrpggolden6243 27 днів тому +2

      hasn't been good since d1 and prog

    • @Thierce
      @Thierce 27 днів тому

      dogshit opinion

    • @ravenfps
      @ravenfps 27 днів тому

      Facts.

    • @pocketvices
      @pocketvices День тому

      Dman go listen to any classic melee set, it's just 2 dudes wafflin

  • @Relisoc
    @Relisoc 27 днів тому +3

    jorge is the goat if you dont like him youre squidward

  • @hideharu-xiii8852
    @hideharu-xiii8852 27 днів тому +1

    It’s like people can’t have fun anymore geez. Get over yourselves.

  • @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl
    @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl 24 дні тому

    Black speak can be pretty bad Tbh, but as hmw proves, it can be really good as well.

  • @dontbother7355
    @dontbother7355 27 днів тому

    Guess it’s cool when Hungrybox does it lol. Also, to the idiot in the comments that said TK made it about race, 1. You’re probably white, 2. You didn’t watch the video AND you don’t even know the real commentary history to make such an assumption. Everyone knows EE was the was back in the day that brought the humor and TK balanced it with the match awareness. Plus, nothing that was said here was targeted or incorrect. I will say though, that I thoroughly enjoy melee commentary more, just not recently. Ult commentary just cringe. Just a bunch of names, but no story lines and fake hype.

  • @sethlopez8287
    @sethlopez8287 27 днів тому

    TK don’t even like smash

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +10

      playing since i was 10. been in tournaments since i was 18. idk man sounds like i like smash

  • @thelocs5935
    @thelocs5935 27 днів тому

    I cant speak to the reality of being a black man in this space, im certain when you see these wild criticisms that are thrown around toward you and less so towards the white casters, it must rub you in a certain way. As a white viewer, though, it does feel alienating to say the guy just must be racist. I dont perceive you as a person who holds biases like that toward other races. I really appreciate your videos and your level-headed commentary pertaining to things both within the game and the real world.
    I guess i project myself into that random commenters position and question if i would also be called racist if i had a criticism of a black commentator or creator. Idk. Just a thought that is intended to be a constructive criticism. Most of what i have disagreed with you on in past takes has had to do with feeling like white people are being painted with a very broad brush that is unfair and not representative of an entire group. Im about peace and love for everyone, and admonishing genuine wrongdoings.
    Much love to you, i appreciate that you read through your comments and take things with a level head. Glad to see you in a much more positive headspace than this time last year.

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +2

      I didn't say he's racist. I said my dialect probably does not resonate with him. never claimed he doesn't like black people or that anyone who would rather a more caucasian dialect is but what I'm pointing out is just because i'm not giving you hard frame data or statistics and numbers and shit all the time does not mean I do not know the game or that i don't analyze situations. theres been so many calls that I've mad in this space that happen literally right after I saw it. I also don't want to go heavy into numbers and frame data and shit because i'm commentating for a wider audience than just smash nerds who live and breathe this game.

    • @thelocs5935
      @thelocs5935 27 днів тому

      @TKbreezy I appreciate that about your commentary lol. You don't make me feel like I'm a nerd watching it and I don't need that.
      I don't keep up with Twitter a lot so I don't know what that discourse is like over stuff like commentary. I'm sure with the way this community is it's nonstop complaining and that would definitely get old. I'm not trying to send any hate or make implications.

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +1

      @@thelocs5935 oh that was just a little anecdote LOL it was just ONE comment i saw recently that i was like "aight bruh i feel like you just refuse to listen tbh" like I'm definitely not mr. smash knowledge but to act like after 15 years of talking about and playing this game that i know "nothing" is crazy. most of this video is actually about melee commentary discourse!

    • @thelocs5935
      @thelocs5935 27 днів тому

      @TKbreezy i caught that! It's gotta be exhausting sifting through the all the trash people through out there. I hope the other lanes you've been getting in have healthier discourse. It's crazy in smashville from the outside looking in lmao

  • @alexkrasnic3850
    @alexkrasnic3850 27 днів тому

    Nerds do not like or understand how men act naturally. Any boxing match, ufc or soccer game, the announcers act the exact same way

  • @Hop___
    @Hop___ 27 днів тому

    Can't take constructive criticism and attributes it to his race.

    • @TKbreezy
      @TKbreezy  27 днів тому +11

      yup thats totally what i did. glad you have good comprehension skills!

    • @TwinHacari
      @TwinHacari 27 днів тому

      You were the one that said the cirque commentary is gold? Go ahead and log off the computer troll.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 27 днів тому +5

      Seems like you heard the word race and completely disregarded everything else he was saying.