for me, Good-focused Chaotic Good can be summed up in a single sentence: "I will do what I must to save the land, even if I must destroy it a little bit."
Chaotic good individuals do the right thing, when they personaly feel its time for them to act. They are going to stand up for what they believe in, even if theres no reason, nor need for them to do so. They decide when and if to act. Nobody else. Chaotic alignments are based on individuality and its (forceful) expression. "I'am going to do this whether you want me to or not! (Though I will refrain from doing so if my actions would cause you and your liberties much harm.)"
Wow man, I don’t know anything about d and d but I did find everything you said very beautiful philosophically. Well said. The alignment system may not fit our world perfectly but it does make much sense. I just went through all my friends and classifies them in the alignment system! Haha!
CG is one of my favorite Alignments because it has the "flexibility" or "versatility" to do Good. CG can be one of your best resources to get justice when LG has its hands tied or NG has too much doubt. A Paladin can't/won't punish that bandit lord who did you evil because he was declared innocent(for any technical reason) in a trial of your nation's law? For the Chaotic Good warlock(I had one as such in 3.5e) that's no problem at all. Just a decent amount of compensation or reward.
Despite the common joke about Batman being every alignment, I would put him in this category as well. Batman doesn't actively despise the poice and is willing to cooperate with them. However, he doesn't join them since he thinks that following the rules of that organization would keep him from doing his job. When the police department cooperates with him, they basically act netral Good as Batman technically is a criminal. What you say about pushing someone in line in order to make them do their part doesn't seem Chaotic Good to me. It mre sounds like something a lawful character would do - even a lawfful evil character would do that - preferably through brainwashing. A chaotic good character would first think "do we actually need this person to pull their weight?" They would rather advocate that it is okay if some people don't want to be productive members of society. They would advocate to give to the homeless independently from the question if they are to blame for their situation. For a chaotic good character, it is a great luxury that they could live that way. That doesn't mean that they actually want to live that way. They assume that most people are that way. They believe that people want to be useful for society but still desire the option not to be.
I literally can't play a character that isn't CG or NG. I believe myself as a CG person. It's hard to RP a character that doesn't reflect your own moral compass. At least for me.
I'm thinking of writing a series of short stories in which there are two protagonists: one lawful good male and one chaotic good female, but I didn't know how to make the female heroic or make it to where the two of near opposite alignments tolerated each other. Seeing this video has made me learn how to fix that problem. Thanks.
Thanks! I can see them being Neutral Good as well. Alignment really is difficult to pin down. Wolverine is also a good CG example. He loves his freedom and he's a superhero so that covers it all!
Thank you for answering so quickly. I was actually asking because of a character I'm getting ready to play who's CG and the campaign was starting that way. He's CG because of his branch of human's culture (they're nomadic gypsy like (not the polite term, but can't remember the polite term anymore after hearing that version so much)) and was worried I might have to switch to NG. Thankfully it sounds like I don't.
I’m a chaotic good so TYSM. I LOVE your review!! It was spot on, like If i have to team up with some sort of organization to kill the Big Baddie™️ i’ll of course do it, but i wouldn’t be very happy during it. I know in my mind that i’m doing the right thing, but i wouldn’t appreciate just being lumped together with the group and be expected to act and think a certain way due to that. Plus, if there were rules that would prevent me from helping others, i’d break them in approximately 0.2 nanoseconds. People say chaotic goods are the “least good good alignment,” but in reality we’re focused on the shit that actually matters, aka helping others, and recognize that sometimes rules are inefficient for the situation and MUST be broken in order for good to be maximized.
While he's King of Chaotic for sure, whether it's Good or Neutral is up for grabs. Myself? I'd go good. He has the genuine interest of his adopted peoples at heart. However the good of his people is in direct conflict with the good of The Watch so he's either CG or CE depending on which side of The Wall you're on! Side note, I always had Karl Urban cast as Mance in my head. I think that'd work well.
Examples of CG drug dealers are: the pretty lady from the show Weeds ( neutral good ?) ,the young guy from Pinapple Express and ,for a more wide example , most hippies who take/give/champion/sell LSD ,shrooms ,weed, ect . BELIEVING that they are liberating others minds (wheather or not that is true is irrelevant. ) Winnie the Pooh is a standard pothead character and hes harmless and kind.
Actually, in Saw 4 ( I think thats the one where he kills the LE insurance man who manipulated the system to cut his benifits ,thus dooming John Kramer) and I would probably see his INTENTIONS as CG but his carry through CE ,so CN all together . What allignment is the Jigsaw killer ?
I'm a fan of the Ace Attorney game series, so I was thinking about how the alignments translate into that series. Maya Fey seems to reflect the values of CG the most. Would never intentionally harm someone, but doesn't like rules & regs, discipline, and has unorthodox methods of doing things.
A-Team is great for NG. Also, they're kind of a modern day adventuring party. Each has their class and abilities, and they fight evil for pay. Although they rarely get the pay.
Those two sound Chaotic Good, yes. They don't force it on anyone, they're providing a service that's in demand, and they flaunt the law they consider unjust.
A good representation of Chaotic good is the SG-1 series, in particular Jack O'Neill. They fight a group of aliens that act as gods and oppress human cultures wherever they are found.
The A-team would be an example of Chaotic Good. Col. Decker would be more along the lines of Lawful Neutral. In Nikita Season 3, Nikita, Alex, and Birkoff would be Chaotic Good, Ryan Fletcher would be Lawful Good, The President would be Lawful Neutral, Amanda would be Neutral Evil (also Percy before he died at the end of Season 2). Sam would be chaotic evil.
Would a CG character enter in to a mutually beneficial contract? Say working for a merchant to stock their shelves of magic items, but in turn getting funding for the wanderings they are wont to do anyways?
They'd be rebellious and thumb their nose at authority but it'd be more like good natured teasing. Like on a superhero crew, there's always one guy who's straight and narrow, and another guy who likes bothering him. They'll probably also extol the virtues of chaos to these people who are already good.
The Elven gods in particular are chaotic good. Corellon Larethian and Sehani Moonbow. Elves are depicted as being a people hard-wired to be Chaotic good.
Yeah, it's been a while since I made this video and the whole "CG dude whoops some ass to get his friends in line" aspect is one I'd change if I re-did my take on CG. Specifically for the reason you mentioned: taking a hard line and taking away the freedom of choice of another.
Really good clear descriptive vid Onionkid99. On the point of a CG character beating someone into line who isn't pulling their weight, I think not though. The mere act of doing that would be akin to taking away that person's basic freedom and choice. More likely the CG would leave them be.
Han was CN in begining because ,CN want live his live and don't care about others but they don't want hurt them too. CN cares about his friends too ,examples Jack Sparrow goes back help friends when kraken attack ship or Annah from Planescape she will defend nameless one until she die because she loved him . CG cares about others and will help them but he still want do what he want when that not hurts others.
They might. It's not exactly the most Good of actions, and they run the danger of becoming a deranged vigilante, but a CG character might assassinate a vile villain who went free. The Good half of their alignment would probably jab at their conscience too.
would the seven samurai be chaotic good or lawful good? They fight evil to defend the innocent with a code of honour . Yet they aren't affiliated with any law enforcement being a group of mercenaries .
I definitely see where you're coming from, and you might be right, but I'd actually say Lawful Good. For the reason, that it doesn't make sense for a lawful character to be connected to "the law." Maybe a law, but that law might be a code. Like, a Lawful Good Paladin of Abadar would probably have a code that disalows him to do anything that would halt or endanger the economy. In that case, if there is a law in a town that disalows the sale of bread, that Lawful Good character would be breaking the hell out of that law, and committing any act (that isn't like, evil) to crush this law. He wouldn't kill somebody, but he'd burn down a contraband-wheat-products-blocking building, as long as there's nobody in it. He'd do battle, but not kill, all those who seek to thwart the (in the paladin's mind) noble and good economy.
Aha, I didn't know the history of the law/chaos axis. You know, it does make more sense when viewed through that lense. Civilization and the Wild, yes I like it.
Well, Digger Dan the Dunmer Discoverer recently aired a 5-part investigative report (on Whiterun's Evening News) regarding a ring of Skyrim knee-surgeons. In this very revealing series of reports, Digger Dan exposed this ring as the very ones that actually shot the arrows into the knees of the poor former-adventurers of Skyrim. These surgeons created their own clientele, for profit! Very disturbing, indeed! They even maxxed out their Archery perk trees! So sad. What's this world coming to?
Gnomes know how to party! I think CG is an alignment I see a lot, and I'm glad I do. I prefer chaotic player characters like you, though as a GM it's fun to portray any and all alignments. Having so many characters at my disposal.
It's eerie how similar this sounds to my values in real life. Are there Chaotic Good gods in DnD? I've never played but I'm intrigued by the alignment system. I'm Chaotic Good that values Good more with neutral leanings.
5 years late, but the god of the kenku (Quorlin) could fit here. He's mostly seen as a trickster(chaotic), but when he was given the responsibility of the kenku he didn't totally left them to their own devices (good) but just kind of. So he's kind of in between chaotic good and chaotic neutral.
I kind of feel like Chaotic Good at least somewhat embodies anarchism as people like Noam Chomsky define it. Basically, be good to others and work together and you won't need demagogues from on high to rule over you. I also find it a decent definition of the Han Solos and and Robinhoods of the world. Arguably most freedom fighters and civil rights activists embody this too. If I'm being honest, I feel chaotic good exemplifies what most people try to or at least want to be or see themselves. Good, upstanding people willing to do or stand up for what is right even if it means upsetting the status quo.
While chaotic good is a very compatible alignment to the ideology of anarchist-communism, It is very restrictive to apply specific ideologies to certain alignments. Two Chaotic goods can have wildly different approaches for how a chaotic good system should operate. Mature chaotic goods will think in terms of mutual cooperation for the 'good of everyone', basically in an effort to create a very good society based on equality, Many neutral goods could also favor this approach if they found it a non-suicidal and feasible way to create positive change. Immature chaotic goods might go on a hopeless crusade against any percieved form of evil, or simply be like a robin hood. You can have organized or disorganized chaotic goods, and you can have thoughtful or aimless chaotic goods. I think other alignments can be just as diverse while staying true to the vague terms of their alignment. Personally I identify as a neutral good. I love many of the thoughts and ideas expressed from libertarian-communist philosophies, and incorporate it into my own views. I used to identify as an anarchist-communist actually, but i now consider myself a libertarian-marxist (AKA Left-Communist). What I hate more than anything about applying singular ideologies to certain alignments are stereotypes that couldn't be more inaccurate. For example, the idea that all Chaotic goods are basically these "right wing libertarians that refuse any kind of organized society" - honestly, that much better matches the selfishness that comes with chaotic neutral, where as chaotic goods are the anti-thesis of this selfishness and self-absorbed "Rugged individualism".
@@ufodeath 1. """""An"""""-com would be chaotic evil. 2. "Left-libertarian" is an *oxymoron* . You are either a leftist and want to impose your economic authoritarianism on everyone, or you are a weird libertarian who wants to live in a commune or a socialist or mutualist society, but do NOT want to impose on others your way of life. Leftist or libertarian - PICK ONE. 3. "Right wing libertarians" don't refuse any kind of organized society - we are against the State imposing its will on people by force.
CE is very unlikely even for the most "insane" and sadistic vigil antes , though there IS a serial killer /vigil ante Jigsaw ,whoes motives and morality vary from movie to movie , his victims may be more or less dispicable depending . Some might say that Jigsaw is CE (duh) but he has too many values and do it for the "greater good " . Lawful evil doesnt fit for him either ,he doesnt want power its self , neutral evil is out of the question ,he is driven by altruism ,so LN?
Chaotic Good punches are somehow more good than Lawful Evil ones. I haven't figured out exactly how though, but the Chaotic Good characters assure me this is true!
Chaotic is a bit of an odd word. Not sure what I'd call it though. Free Good? Liberated Evil? Unhindered Neutral? Actually Liberated Evil sounds fun. Chaotic alignments are a bit difficult to pin down. Robin Hood is doing Chaotic stuff in a disciplined and Lawful manner, like Batman. I put Batman as NG and Robin Hood as CG because Robin is always operating outside the law, whereas Batman aides the police.
True, no organization is 100% of one alignment. I think most of them are CG though. It's like how the Empire is probably mostly LN but has LE leadership.
and start setting up the house to remind me of that, so ide feel bad or something, but that doesnt really mean anything its just psychology. i am a wantist, theres no way they can practice something like that if i'm not doing it. i just feel like im both more original, nicer, and more cool, they are just programs coming out
I have a theory about drug dealers (not the syndicate ones ) but many pot dealers , LSD chemists (like tim leary) , supporters of psychedelic use , drug dealers who believe 1. taking drugs is someones choice 2. even though its 'illegal " to sell drugs and it doesnt matter , they make sure that their product is clean 3. they probably would take the drug themselves/believe its positive. Meth/coke falls under CN or CE, for users or dealers ,possibly N or NE not CG.
Right, a Chaotic character isn't beholden to rip up their tax form every year. Especially because they'd get hucked into jail, which Chaotic characters would hate. They're sure going to grumble about those taxes. But then again, who doesn't?
Great series of videos but I slightly disagree with your description of Wallace and Robin Hood as chaotic good chararters. I see them more as neutral good. Yes, they did chaotic actions but it was in order to restore the reign of their kings to whom they would probably been loyal to dead. A better example would have been Wolverine.
I've only seen the first 3 movies but I'd call Jigsaw LE. He's certainly not obeying society's laws but he's so methodical and foreward thinking and disciplined, he's Lawful. Evil because he's killing people all over. Bad people sure, but would anyone consider John Doe from Se7en to be Good? No way. He kills because he wants to and justifies it with reasons of his own creation. Lawful Evil.
Considering Bernie Sanders puts down Christians, especially in that moment when he spoke with Ben Shapiro and talked over him every time he exclaimed his view in detail, I would classify Sanders as Neutral Evil. Beware the chameleon alignment; they will disguise themselves as whatever vice the public endorses to attain their goals.
5 years late. Probably would be kind of recentful calling them instruments of their superiors with no free will every time they do something the chaotic good character disagrees with, but is something lawful.
of a recorded song. you can be all into you stuff i you want but if you dont trip you haven't really practiced it. and when you do trip, it stops you from using it for bad. because i trip, i know i have nothing to worry, about, and i know these people are fake. but i think all this happened so i would share this information, the true
amanita muscaria and magic mushrooms, which makes me like invincible, whereas these people have never tripped, because they are afraid, so how could their magic really do anything, especially if its being used for such stupid purposes? all they did was look up ayahuasca shamanism youtube videos on the internet
pubished on Apr 23, 2012 by Onionkid99.. my birthday... are you trying to like contact me or something, send me a message if this is some kind of thing... ill tell you more about this situation... maybe this was just meant to be dnd (or that which is represents perhaps not under that name or any name) is after all the native faith of the universe... theres too much real evil happening as if its a game... but its time for the magical world to break through as well, it is 2012 after all
Out of all the terminology in RPG's the use of the word chaotic was a poor choice in my opinion. Robin the hood is CG but was highly methodic and a creature of habit who's word was honorable. Not very choatic in my opinion but in D&D sure he's CG. There's not enough chaos in chaotic alignments for my taste.
Chaotic Good is the least good alignment. That person can be abrasive and they're Hot-Blooded. They don't like being ordered by Law-aligned leader and start fights with neutral people. Worst of Chaotic Good is Cowboy Cop. They work with the police, but they don't play by their roles. God help if you're in a room with him/her, and he/she will start roughing you up to get answers. , or worst. This is why I don't like Chaotic Good.
drew6874 i think you’re thinking in stereotypes. A Chaotic good is a person who values individual freedom and independence, and is simultaneously benevolent and working for the greater good. The alignments are broad, so that’s all they are. You’re taking about a very specific situation, which just isn’t how the alignments work.
@drew6874 lawful good is the least good alignment. that person can be stubborn and holier than thou. they dont like when people are not submissive and do not bow down before others or when people dare go against tradition for for their own dreams or needs . lawful good people often start fights who are neutral people. worst of lawful good is the paladin or cop , they hate with someone is being mischievous or is not putting their entire being into doing what their told or their job. and they will force you to comply with traditional and the want of your peers even if the person has other dreams or aspirations the lawful good character will tell them to stop being selfish and only do the wants and needs of their family or boss. this is why i dont like lawful good
for me, Good-focused Chaotic Good can be summed up in a single sentence: "I will do what I must to save the land, even if I must destroy it a little bit."
Well said!
Chaotic good individuals do the right thing, when they personaly feel its time for them to act.
They are going to stand up for what they believe in, even if theres no reason, nor need for them to do so.
They decide when and if to act.
Nobody else.
Chaotic alignments are based on individuality and its (forceful) expression.
"I'am going to do this whether you want me to or not! (Though I will refrain from doing so if my actions would cause you and your liberties much harm.)"
Wow man, I don’t know anything about d and d but I did find everything you said very beautiful philosophically. Well said. The alignment system may not fit our world perfectly but it does make much sense. I just went through all my friends and classifies them in the alignment system! Haha!
CG is one of my favorite Alignments because it has the "flexibility" or "versatility" to do Good. CG can be one of your best resources to get justice when LG has its hands tied or NG has too much doubt.
A Paladin can't/won't punish that bandit lord who did you evil because he was declared innocent(for any technical reason) in a trial of your nation's law? For the Chaotic Good warlock(I had one as such in 3.5e) that's no problem at all. Just a decent amount of compensation or reward.
Chaotic good the alignment that perfectly describes Monkey D Luffy
Despite the common joke about Batman being every alignment, I would put him in this category as well.
Batman doesn't actively despise the poice and is willing to cooperate with them. However, he doesn't join them since he thinks that following the rules of that organization would keep him from doing his job. When the police department cooperates with him, they basically act netral Good as Batman technically is a criminal.
What you say about pushing someone in line in order to make them do their part doesn't seem Chaotic Good to me. It mre sounds like something a lawful character would do - even a lawfful evil character would do that - preferably through brainwashing.
A chaotic good character would first think "do we actually need this person to pull their weight?" They would rather advocate that it is okay if some people don't want to be productive members of society. They would advocate to give to the homeless independently from the question if they are to blame for their situation.
For a chaotic good character, it is a great luxury that they could live that way. That doesn't mean that they actually want to live that way. They assume that most people are that way. They believe that people want to be useful for society but still desire the option not to be.
I literally can't play a character that isn't CG or NG. I believe myself as a CG person. It's hard to RP a character that doesn't reflect your own moral compass. At least for me.
I'm thinking of writing a series of short stories in which there are two protagonists: one lawful good male and one chaotic good female, but I didn't know how to make the female heroic or make it to where the two of near opposite alignments tolerated each other. Seeing this video has made me learn how to fix that problem. Thanks.
Sonic the Hedgehog is a pretty iconic chaotic good character.
People say he's more neutral good what do you say about that?
Doesn't seem like it
Thanks! I can see them being Neutral Good as well. Alignment really is difficult to pin down. Wolverine is also a good CG example. He loves his freedom and he's a superhero so that covers it all!
I think my friend's Ben 10 character based on me is closest to this, but my personal alignment would be neutral good. I suppose he wasn't too far off.
Thank you for answering so quickly. I was actually asking because of a character I'm getting ready to play who's CG and the campaign was starting that way. He's CG because of his branch of human's culture (they're nomadic gypsy like (not the polite term, but can't remember the polite term anymore after hearing that version so much)) and was worried I might have to switch to NG. Thankfully it sounds like I don't.
I’m a chaotic good so TYSM. I LOVE your review!! It was spot on, like If i have to team up with some sort of organization to kill the Big Baddie™️ i’ll of course do it, but i wouldn’t be very happy during it. I know in my mind that i’m doing the right thing, but i wouldn’t appreciate just being lumped together with the group and be expected to act and think a certain way due to that. Plus, if there were rules that would prevent me from helping others, i’d break them in approximately 0.2 nanoseconds. People say chaotic goods are the “least good good alignment,” but in reality we’re focused on the shit that actually matters, aka helping others, and recognize that sometimes rules are inefficient for the situation and MUST be broken in order for good to be maximized.
These are very intelligent points and observations. It's refreshing to find intelligent people on the internet, every once and a while.
I think Chaotic Good and Neutral Good are alignments that are pretty close, and would get along well.
He's the most chaotic of the chaotic neutral I must say.
While he's King of Chaotic for sure, whether it's Good or Neutral is up for grabs. Myself? I'd go good. He has the genuine interest of his adopted peoples at heart. However the good of his people is in direct conflict with the good of The Watch so he's either CG or CE depending on which side of The Wall you're on!
Side note, I always had Karl Urban cast as Mance in my head. I think that'd work well.
Examples of CG drug dealers are: the pretty lady from the show Weeds ( neutral good ?) ,the young guy from Pinapple Express and ,for a more wide example , most hippies who take/give/champion/sell LSD ,shrooms ,weed, ect . BELIEVING that they are liberating others minds (wheather or not that is true is irrelevant. ) Winnie the Pooh is a standard pothead character and hes harmless and kind.
I think they would. While they wouldn't be a fan of contracts, it's this funding that allows their adventuring so the trade-off is worth it.
Actually, in Saw 4 ( I think thats the one where he kills the LE insurance man who manipulated the system to cut his benifits ,thus dooming John Kramer) and I would probably see his INTENTIONS as CG but his carry through CE ,so CN all together . What allignment is the Jigsaw killer ?
Thank you. For me, it's hard to choose between CG and NG as my favorite.
I'm a fan of the Ace Attorney game series, so I was thinking about how the alignments translate into that series. Maya Fey seems to reflect the values of CG the most. Would never intentionally harm someone, but doesn't like rules & regs, discipline, and has unorthodox methods of doing things.
A-Team is great for NG. Also, they're kind of a modern day adventuring party. Each has their class and abilities, and they fight evil for pay. Although they rarely get the pay.
what classes are good for chaotic good characters
Barbarian
Bard
Any, really.
Paladin
Those two sound Chaotic Good, yes. They don't force it on anyone, they're providing a service that's in demand, and they flaunt the law they consider unjust.
A good representation of Chaotic good is the SG-1 series, in particular Jack O'Neill. They fight a group of aliens that act as gods and oppress human cultures wherever they are found.
The A-team would be an example of Chaotic Good. Col. Decker would be more along the lines of Lawful Neutral.
In Nikita Season 3, Nikita, Alex, and Birkoff would be Chaotic Good, Ryan Fletcher would be Lawful Good, The President would be Lawful Neutral, Amanda would be Neutral Evil (also Percy before he died at the end of Season 2). Sam would be chaotic evil.
Would a CG character enter in to a mutually beneficial contract? Say working for a merchant to stock their shelves of magic items, but in turn getting funding for the wanderings they are wont to do anyways?
What type of quests would chaotic good like doing?
liberating the oppressed.
Freeing any and all slaves in morrowind, even if it means symbolically killing off the masters.
Would a chaotic good be willing to join up with the stormcloacks to liberate skyrim from the empire?
I'm chaotic good playing a chaotic good character and I joined the empire so not entirely true, chaotic good = storm cloaks
It could. I think alignments can meet and mix like paint.
They'd be rebellious and thumb their nose at authority but it'd be more like good natured teasing.
Like on a superhero crew, there's always one guy who's straight and narrow, and another guy who likes bothering him.
They'll probably also extol the virtues of chaos to these people who are already good.
The Elven gods in particular are chaotic good. Corellon Larethian and Sehani Moonbow. Elves are depicted as being a people hard-wired to be Chaotic good.
Yeah, it's been a while since I made this video and the whole "CG dude whoops some ass to get his friends in line" aspect is one I'd change if I re-did my take on CG.
Specifically for the reason you mentioned: taking a hard line and taking away the freedom of choice of another.
Thanks Onionkid, now I have a craving for popcorn shrimp!
Really good clear descriptive vid Onionkid99. On the point of a CG character beating someone into line who isn't pulling their weight, I think not though. The mere act of doing that would be akin to taking away that person's basic freedom and choice. More likely the CG would leave them be.
Han was CN in begining because ,CN want live his live and don't care about others but they don't want hurt them too. CN cares about his friends too ,examples Jack Sparrow goes back help friends when kraken attack ship or Annah from Planescape she will defend nameless one until she die because she loved him . CG cares about others and will help them but he still want do what he want when that not hurts others.
Indeed, he'd do that for sure.
They might. It's not exactly the most Good of actions, and they run the danger of becoming a deranged vigilante, but a CG character might assassinate a vile villain who went free. The Good half of their alignment would probably jab at their conscience too.
would the seven samurai be chaotic good or lawful good? They fight evil to defend the innocent with a code of honour . Yet they aren't affiliated with any law enforcement being a group of mercenaries .
they sound neutral good
I definitely see where you're coming from, and you might be right, but I'd actually say Lawful Good. For the reason, that it doesn't make sense for a lawful character to be connected to "the law." Maybe a law, but that law might be a code. Like, a Lawful Good Paladin of Abadar would probably have a code that disalows him to do anything that would halt or endanger the economy. In that case, if there is a law in a town that disalows the sale of bread, that Lawful Good character would be breaking the hell out of that law, and committing any act (that isn't like, evil) to crush this law. He wouldn't kill somebody, but he'd burn down a contraband-wheat-products-blocking building, as long as there's nobody in it. He'd do battle, but not kill, all those who seek to thwart the (in the paladin's mind) noble and good economy.
Aha, I didn't know the history of the law/chaos axis. You know, it does make more sense when viewed through that lense. Civilization and the Wild, yes I like it.
How would Chaotic Good shift to Lawful Evil?
Watch Anakin Skywalkers story
Well, Digger Dan the Dunmer Discoverer recently aired a 5-part investigative report (on Whiterun's Evening News) regarding a ring of Skyrim knee-surgeons. In this very revealing series of reports, Digger Dan exposed this ring as the very ones that actually shot the arrows into the knees of the poor former-adventurers of Skyrim. These surgeons created their own clientele, for profit! Very disturbing, indeed! They even maxxed out their Archery perk trees! So sad. What's this world coming to?
The halflings have all the popcorn shrimp!
Now that's some Neutral Evil at work!
Ah, those aliens would offend any chaotic good sensibilities for sure!
Chaotic Neutral + Neutral Good = Chaotic Good??
Gnomes know how to party!
I think CG is an alignment I see a lot, and I'm glad I do. I prefer chaotic player characters like you, though as a GM it's fun to portray any and all alignments. Having so many characters at my disposal.
It's eerie how similar this sounds to my values in real life. Are there Chaotic Good gods in DnD? I've never played but I'm intrigued by the alignment system. I'm Chaotic Good that values Good more with neutral leanings.
5 years late, but the god of the kenku (Quorlin) could fit here. He's mostly seen as a trickster(chaotic), but when he was given the responsibility of the kenku he didn't totally left them to their own devices (good) but just kind of.
So he's kind of in between chaotic good and chaotic neutral.
I kind of feel like Chaotic Good at least somewhat embodies anarchism as people like Noam Chomsky define it. Basically, be good to others and work together and you won't need demagogues from on high to rule over you. I also find it a decent definition of the Han Solos and and Robinhoods of the world. Arguably most freedom fighters and civil rights activists embody this too. If I'm being honest, I feel chaotic good exemplifies what most people try to or at least want to be or see themselves. Good, upstanding people willing to do or stand up for what is right even if it means upsetting the status quo.
While chaotic good is a very compatible alignment to the ideology of anarchist-communism, It is very restrictive to apply specific ideologies to certain alignments. Two Chaotic goods can have wildly different approaches for how a chaotic good system should operate. Mature chaotic goods will think in terms of mutual cooperation for the 'good of everyone', basically in an effort to create a very good society based on equality, Many neutral goods could also favor this approach if they found it a non-suicidal and feasible way to create positive change. Immature chaotic goods might go on a hopeless crusade against any percieved form of evil, or simply be like a robin hood. You can have organized or disorganized chaotic goods, and you can have thoughtful or aimless chaotic goods. I think other alignments can be just as diverse while staying true to the vague terms of their alignment. Personally I identify as a neutral good. I love many of the thoughts and ideas expressed from libertarian-communist philosophies, and incorporate it into my own views. I used to identify as an anarchist-communist actually, but i now consider myself a libertarian-marxist (AKA Left-Communist).
What I hate more than anything about applying singular ideologies to certain alignments are stereotypes that couldn't be more inaccurate. For example, the idea that all Chaotic goods are basically these "right wing libertarians that refuse any kind of organized society" - honestly, that much better matches the selfishness that comes with chaotic neutral, where as chaotic goods are the anti-thesis of this selfishness and self-absorbed "Rugged individualism".
Change Chomsky for Rothbard and you are golden.
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2. "Left-libertarian" is an *oxymoron* . You are either a leftist and want to impose your economic authoritarianism on everyone, or you are a weird libertarian who wants to live in a commune or a socialist or mutualist society, but do NOT want to impose on others your way of life. Leftist or libertarian - PICK ONE.
3. "Right wing libertarians" don't refuse any kind of organized society - we are against the State imposing its will on people by force.
CE is very unlikely even for the most "insane" and sadistic vigil antes , though there IS a serial killer /vigil ante Jigsaw ,whoes motives and morality vary from movie to movie , his victims may be more or less dispicable depending . Some might say that Jigsaw is CE (duh) but he has too many values and do it for the "greater good " . Lawful evil doesnt fit for him either ,he doesnt want power its self , neutral evil is out of the question ,he is driven by altruism ,so LN?
Chaotic Good punches are somehow more good than Lawful Evil ones. I haven't figured out exactly how though, but the Chaotic Good characters assure me this is true!
They could. I'm more than ok with alignment shifts over time anyway. Characters grow and adapt.
Drizzt is I think a chaotic good character.
I used to be Chaotic Good, then I took an arrow in the knee.
so would punisher fit that alignment?
Yes
Chaotic is a bit of an odd word. Not sure what I'd call it though. Free Good? Liberated Evil? Unhindered Neutral?
Actually Liberated Evil sounds fun.
Chaotic alignments are a bit difficult to pin down. Robin Hood is doing Chaotic stuff in a disciplined and Lawful manner, like Batman. I put Batman as NG and Robin Hood as CG because Robin is always operating outside the law, whereas Batman aides the police.
Hey, thanks. Always glad to help.
True, no organization is 100% of one alignment. I think most of them are CG though.
It's like how the Empire is probably mostly LN but has LE leadership.
well I jump around on ALL the good alignments alot but lean more towards neutral good
*defeats the dragon*
and start setting up the house to remind me of that, so ide feel bad or something, but that doesnt really mean anything its just psychology. i am a wantist, theres no way they can practice something like that if i'm not doing it. i just feel like im both more original, nicer, and more cool, they are just programs coming out
I have a theory about drug dealers (not the syndicate ones ) but many pot dealers , LSD chemists (like tim leary) , supporters of psychedelic use , drug dealers who believe 1. taking drugs is someones choice 2. even though its 'illegal " to sell drugs and it doesnt matter , they make sure that their product is clean 3. they probably would take the drug themselves/believe its positive. Meth/coke falls under CN or CE, for users or dealers ,possibly N or NE not CG.
Right, a Chaotic character isn't beholden to rip up their tax form every year. Especially because they'd get hucked into jail, which Chaotic characters would hate.
They're sure going to grumble about those taxes. But then again, who doesn't?
I bet knee-surgeons in Skyrim are making a fortune!
Jack Bauer FTW!
Yeah, feels right.
thank you.. uh.. Oninkind.
And the psychedelic mushrooms.
Great series of videos but I slightly disagree with your description of Wallace and Robin Hood as chaotic good chararters. I see them more as neutral good. Yes, they did chaotic actions but it was in order to restore the reign of their kings to whom they would probably been loyal to dead. A better example would have been Wolverine.
My friend thinks that chaotic good is kinda like the bad cop that's willing to beat the shit out of everyone...
I'm about to play a chaotic good rogue in a team with a lawful good paladin. We intend to play it up like a buddy cop duo ;)
In my opinion, Han was always CG. Even before he ever met Luke, he still would have died for Chewbacca.
Thanks!
They can be like that, yeah. Don't care about the law, they care about the baddies getting punished.
I've only seen the first 3 movies but I'd call Jigsaw LE. He's certainly not obeying society's laws but he's so methodical and foreward thinking and disciplined, he's Lawful. Evil because he's killing people all over. Bad people sure, but would anyone consider John Doe from Se7en to be Good? No way.
He kills because he wants to and justifies it with reasons of his own creation. Lawful Evil.
Would Bernie Sanders be more of a Chaotic Good or neutral good?
Considering Bernie Sanders puts down Christians, especially in that moment when he spoke with Ben Shapiro and talked over him every time he exclaimed his view in detail, I would classify Sanders as Neutral Evil. Beware the chameleon alignment; they will disguise themselves as whatever vice the public endorses to attain their goals.
you'd hate me I'm lawful good
No, you know what, I'm just CG. period.
yeah ,you covered the chaotic good drug dealers .
So what your saying is that you do good but you do anything to be good
How would a Chaotic Good person behave in a Lawful Good environment.
5 years late.
Probably would be kind of recentful calling them instruments of their superiors with no free will every time they do something the chaotic good character disagrees with, but is something lawful.
U still alive brah ?
of a recorded song. you can be all into you stuff i you want but if you dont trip you haven't really practiced it. and when you do trip, it stops you from using it for bad. because i trip, i know i have nothing to worry, about, and i know these people are fake. but i think all this happened so i would share this information, the true
They're called half-lings dammit
Hobbits taste WAY better than the gruel and disease that they eat. Isn't that weird?
amanita muscaria and magic mushrooms, which makes me like invincible, whereas these people have never tripped, because they are
afraid, so how could their magic really do anything, especially if its being used for such stupid purposes? all they did was look up ayahuasca shamanism youtube videos on the internet
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my birthday... are you trying to like contact me or something, send me a message if this is some kind of thing... ill tell you more about this situation... maybe this was just meant to be dnd (or that which is represents perhaps not under that name or any name) is after all the native faith of the universe... theres too much real evil happening as if its a game... but its time for the magical world to break through as well, it is 2012 after all
Out of all the terminology in RPG's the use of the word chaotic was a poor choice in my opinion. Robin the hood is CG but was highly methodic and a creature of habit who's word was honorable. Not very choatic in my opinion but in D&D sure he's CG. There's not enough chaos in chaotic alignments for my taste.
Your hands are soooo distracting, FYI. Great explanation though. Thanks!
Gnome drug dealers :)
He needs to comb his hair.
Chaotic Good is the least good alignment. That person can be abrasive and they're Hot-Blooded. They don't like being ordered by Law-aligned leader and start fights with neutral people. Worst of Chaotic Good is Cowboy Cop. They work with the police, but they don't play by their roles. God help if you're in a room with him/her, and he/she will start roughing you up to get answers. , or worst. This is why I don't like Chaotic Good.
drew6874 i think you’re thinking in stereotypes. A Chaotic good is a person who values individual freedom and independence, and is simultaneously benevolent and working for the greater good. The alignments are broad, so that’s all they are. You’re taking about a very specific situation, which just isn’t how the alignments work.
@drew6874
lawful good is the least good alignment.
that person can be stubborn and holier than thou. they dont like when people are not submissive and do not bow down before others or when people dare go against tradition for for their own dreams or needs . lawful good people often start fights who are neutral people.
worst of lawful good is the paladin or cop , they hate with someone is being mischievous or is not putting their entire being into doing what their told or their job.
and they will force you to comply with traditional and the want of your peers even if the person has other dreams or aspirations the lawful good character will tell them to stop being selfish and only do the wants and needs of their family or boss.
this is why i dont like lawful good