2017 Honda Pilot Direct Injection valve cleaning
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2019
- Cleaning the intake valves on my 2017 Honda Pilot's 3.5 Earth Dreams (GDI Direct Injection) engine intake valves. Using the CRC intake valve cleaner to remove any carbon build up on the intake-valves from 30,000 miles for driving.
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Great video. I had no idea that you had to do this to GDI engines!
Great video, I like your method. Plus getting the cleaner on the throttle body is great because cleaning the throttle body itself is or should be part of routine maintenance.
Dude that hose over the middle of the engine is a direct access port over the intake valves. That's where you are supposed to spray it
I actuially just watched this video today. i did the same process on my 2017 Acura MDX. I sprayed the CRC GDI cleaner through the throttle body to get it to all 6 intake ports. I got nervous though when i drove my car for 25 mins on the freeway because it was losing power and the engine light was blinking. but after getting back and resting the car for 20mins I started the car again and no blinking engine light. I let it ran in idle for 10mins then drove it again in the freeway. the acceleration response was amazing. Gonna do this again after 10K miles.
Likely the weak power on the first drive was the engine going in "Limp" mode until the warnings cleared.
Great video! I have an 2018 crv and my parents have a 2006 and 2016 pilot. Will look into doin this before my next oil change. But I think after you let it heat soak for an hour, the instructions say to drive on the highway at highway speed for at least 10 mins. But the roads looked a bit icy when you filmed this so maybe next time
Definitely next time lol
I installed an oil catch can on my 2021 Ridgeline it was a generic can and pretty easy to install.
Hi, great info. What the website, thanks
without a bore scope how do you know what changed?
This car like new, I won’t expect thick white or black smoke come out.
Great. Do you change the oil immediately after cleaning or wait for a few miles and then change the oil and filter?
Did you end up putting an oil catch can on your pilot? If so which one did you go with?
Does this spray not affect the intake manifold pressure sensor on the top there 12:48
Can I do this for acura mdx 2019? I think they have the same engine
Thanks for this video, did you every get the Oil Catch can installed ?
Oil catch cans are only really helpful in turbocharged engines where there is higher oil blow-by. There might be some in NA engines from the PCV valve, but not as extensive as in turbo engines.
Not true...you won't believe how much my cans catch in my v6s
I'm no pro but a car with 30000 miles has just broken in. All engines are different depending on driving habits though. Your engine is still clean for sure but doing this will prevent premature maintenance 👍
I wonder if this is good for your catalytic converter. I have a 2014 Honda Pilot touring with 192,000 without doing this and it still runs smoothly. I cleaned the throttle body though and I only spray through the cloth and not inside the body.
Just make sure that the stuff you use says safe for cats
My 2018 Civic EXT just hit 50,000 miles.
I’ve been replacing the oil every 3500 miles.
I’ve only used top-tier fuel...Shell 93 Octane (Nitro Plus detergent).
I’ve only seen moderate results from the CRC spray from other videos so I’m considering doing a walnut blast.
The new Honda earthdream engine is has very advanced design and runs clean if you keep it clean. Sounds like you're doing exactly that. What you're doing will keep the valve clean especially with good synthetic oil and clean gasoline and changing oil more often. I do the same thing as you that's why at 30k the clean produces very little white smoke. :)
I use amsoil change oil every 5000 miles. Use I octane 93 also and marvel mystery oil at every fill up. Also amsoil trans.fluid cvt Getting 35 m/p/g around town. All turbo engines need 93 octane.
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You’re doing better than me. I’m averaging 31.1 mpg but I also do a lot of driving (60% city, 40% highway). I’m currently at 64,300 miles.
@@txmoney what do you use for oil?
Any updates on your 2017 Pilot, since you clean the intake and throttle bopy? Can you do a follow up video. Thank you
Hi, here's my long over due follow up video: ua-cam.com/video/W5UdPcP3SJs/v-deo.html
Was hoping for a before and after pictures.
isnt this valve residue being evacuated via the exhaust ? you say to try to do this job closer to your oil replacement cycle which makes sense, but you are also suggesting this residue will end up being diluded with the oil inside the engine....
8:55 sounds identical to a ford 3.5 Ecoboost. It’s the high pressure fuel pump making that noise.
Hi, I got P0455 and P0456 code after cleaning the intake valve. Did you have the same issue? How did you solve it? Thanks
Hi, I didn't have any code showed up after the work, hopefully you had it resolved. Cheers
I'd be curious if you keep this vehicle for a long time if this works. I hate to say it but I don't think it will be sufficient. I think they need to be blasted with walnut shells. That's the normal procedure anyway. If this works for well over 100,000 miles, that would be great.
Just subbed....nice vid...hey about changing out the coolant. Can’t find anything anywhere for my 17 Ridgeline...same engine as pilot
sorry I didn't see this until now. I was looking for coolant videos too, yes it's the same engine as the Pilot. I think most people will do it at the shop, maybe it's more "messy"?
@@bebe0928 looking exactly where the drain plug is and do I have to remove anything to gain access to it.
Does this CRC Intake Valve cleaner solve the "Emissions System Problem" engine light issues that are happening very frequently??
That I don’t know if it will. My pilot hasn’t had engine light coming on yet so far
Prabhas, I had success with Chevron Fuel Injector cleaner from Amazon - 6 bottles for $37.00 By the 2nd bottles, the light disappear and has not appear since. It's been over a month now and over 1,000 miles, keep my finger cross. Good luck and I hope this help!
@@rontan8954 Did you have a
RPM fluctuations ?
@@soldado23 Yes I did. The car would hesitate on acceleration and the RPM would run up but the car would not keep up. As of today 4/1 - thought it was a April Fool joke - just got a letter from Honda that they will repairs the emission issues relating to DTC P0420, P0430, and other error codes due to Emission failure.
Wow..1 year ago
How is your pilot running so far? I am curious... do you usually keep scantool plugged in and also monitor occasional misfires? When there is buildup on valves you will see misfires because valve will not open or close fully.
So far it’s running great at 90k, smooth as when it’s brand new, I am surprised how well this engine is holding up so far
Hello Yakfish, I'm wondering how your 2017 Pilot is still holding up? I'm considering purchasing a 2017 Elite trim with 30,000k mi and have heard varying complaints of the fuel injectors going bad or depositing too much fuel and mixing with the engine oil causing a lack of acceleration power. You seem to take excellent care of your Pilot which begs me to ask if despite your great care have you had any issues with it? I've also heard that the Infotainment system can go a bit screechy and go haywire at times. Much appreciated for any information you can pass on, Thanks!
Hi, thanks for asking. My 17 Pilot EXL has 63000 miles at this point, been experiencing 0 issues so far. We just went for a 2500 miles trip from Vancouver Washington to Yellowstone and it drove like a dream for the trip, averaging 28MPG. I did an oil change right before the trip, will change it again soon once it gets to 4000 miles, didn’t notice and gasoline smell or excessive wear in the oil. I will do another transmission flush at 80000 and will change out the transmission filter too. As for fuel injector I haven’t seen any issues yet. Infotainment as Apple car play? It seems to be working ok, the wife hasnt complained she’s the main driver. I guess we been lucky so far :)
@@bebe0928 hey I think you have great content. I also have a 2017 Honda Pilot exl and have an emission system problem check engine on. I have have my transmission fluid changed. I never did the intact valve cleaning you are doing. Do you think the fuel injectors are failing for everyone because they don’t do this maintenance. I also noticed people having issues with transmission issues. I have 43k miles.
@@fejzocecunjanin2028 this is procedure to clean the back of the intake valves. this is not cleaning process for the injectors.
@@bebe0928 we have a 2016 pilot and started having lots of issues with the fuel emission system. I did read there is a recall but when you drop of at dealership they will give you a different diagnostic. There is something wrong with our fuel injectors. Wondering if this method will help. Changing the fuel injectors is really pricey.
@@bebe0928 I have a 2019 Honda pilot elite awd and I average 16mpg. It’s brand new and onyl has 30,000 miles on it. Why is mine getting such bad gas mileage I’ve seen a lot of other people have this Same issue and I’ve seen some people get 22 mpg with their 2019 pilot.
Do you know if I need to do this to my 2016 Acura MDX? Both MDX and pilot share the same V6 GDI engine right?
Yes, same engine. I think won't hurt to do this to the MDX :)
The MDX usues different ecu settings probably bigger valve heads hence why requires 91 or higher octane
Can u doing video on awd. I know nothing about honda and can't find any helpful info on a 2014 ridgline.i want to say i have similar engine i have 3.5 vtech not earthdreams
Hi, not sure what you mean by doing a video on AWD, this Pilot is an AWD model, but this maintenance isn’t particular to AWD or FWD. Your 2014 Ridgeline uses a port injection engine so the gasoline cleans the intake value naturally, unlike the Earthdream engine. So In theory you won’t need to do what I did.
@@bebe0928 lol sorry I meant can you do a video on servicing the awd differentials. I've owned a mustang for 10 years and have no idea what I'm doing. I love honda but not very many do it yourself videos on UA-cam for a 2014 ridgeline
Its like the 2014 ridgeline never existed. Dealership charges way to much for minor fluid changes. Truck gets very poor gas also Please help!
We did the differential fluid change at 30k and every 30k going forward. We did it at the dealership for $147 on both front and rear
Unfortunately, you may do more harm then good by using CRC and similar fluids. The deposits will break in big chunks getting into the cylinders. You will get wall scoring and possible valve damage, and then it is stuck in the cat converter. Due to GDI crappy design in general the media blasting is the only reliable (and expensive) way to clean the intake valves
I don’t think it hurts to do it once lol… i am running more mild additives through my gas tank. 63 gallons worth and then I’ll rip out the big mama jama (CRC) and put new penzzoil in it with a oil catch can. Hopefully carbon deposits will be kept at a minimum.
Only if chunky and crc says this slowly dissolves which is why you are supposed to use entire can
use top tier gasoline 91 octane with out ethanol , high quality syn oil . my 2018 never had that problem , or even oil dilution , I change my oil every 5000 km
I don't understand why Honda doesn't have a maintenance item that stipulates a valve soak every 15 or 20 thousand kms.
Why would they go direct injection? Absolutely stupid idea. I just have the head off of my 2013 Honda Pilot, 240K miles, and the valves and cylinder were sooooo clean. A broken timing belt pulley bolt cause some valve damage on two cylinders. All in all, the job was pretty easy, though time consuming.
So is there an oil catch can for it now?
I haven’t seen it yet
@@bebe0928 there is one now search oil catch can for ridge line and the guy shows how to do it and where to get it. Fits Honda pilot
@@bigballs9769 wow, that’s great, thanks for the information!
These things still need such maintenance up to 2017? wow. thats why toyota has port injectors with direct injectors. if catch cans work why the heck don't they put them in at factory. Good point about not using brake booster line. Issue with this though is the car needs good reading from MAF sensor. I wish they made a place to shoot this stuff in without taking apart anything. Also spraying a mist would be better if possible instead of a stream with the can because port injectors would also spray a mist. what you could also do is do a before and after by taking the intake manifold off to see how dirty and clean thing are.
You're correct about Toyota's dual injection engine, such as on the Highlander. But Highlander's 8 speed transmission is a seal unit without dipstick and very difficult to change. For that, Pilot's traditional 6 speed auto sort of evens out the ground as far as maintenance.
The only reason why Toyota and others went dual injection is that they failed with direct injection alone. Honda was late in the game with gdi and most likey will follow suit with dual injection, maybe, we'll have to see.
Catch cans are technically not allowed because they violate emissions.
Isn’t the 2017 Honda Pilot engine has dual port? I think fuel additives is fine and drive it higher rev or more in highway.
no dual port, just the direct injection, no port injector
Great video, any updates?
Soon
Or, remove the MAF sensor and shoot the fluid down through there.
Excellent idea, that would be much simpler but would it affect the maf sensor when it's re-installed?
if the intake valves were meant to be cleaned wouldnt honda include it in their service recommendations. not just honda but other car makers. i'm sure they wouldnt want their reputation tarnished with engines that fail because of a poor design, or with something that should be done as regular maintenance
It IS part of maintenance. All direct injected engines will need the valves cleaned, once they get really bad the valves have to be walnut blasted to take the carbon off.
BMW has it as part of a maintenance service
@@jerzefigga its not part of my cars scheduled maintenance i looked. but i can ask them to do it at 50k miiles
Does that clean the fuel injector
No, but you can put the solution into the gas tank and it will clean the injectors
@@bebe0928 what solution do u put for the fuel injectors?
Seafoam
@@bebe0928 do you have a video?
i don't, you can pick up a can of seafoam from Walmart and simply add to the gas tank while you filling up a full tank of gas. Hope that helps
I want to see 300 k miles on this honda
Does this clean the injectors as well?
yes this product will clean the injector, for injector cleaning you simply pour a can of this into the gas tank.
I think you've been asked before, does the CRC intake cleaner solved 'Emission System problem' P0430 code? I believe the light comes on around 50,000 miles on 2016/2017 Honda Pilot. I had mine came on about 3 months ago. Based on online research, there are hosts of 2016/2017 Pilot owners with similiar issues. Dealers want to replace injectors costing about $1500. Very disappointed with my Honda Pilot, maybe going back to Toyota.
My pilot has 64000 miles now, no lights yet
Just wanted to update everyone! I purchased 6 bottles of Chevron Fuel Injector cleaner from Amazon for $37.00 after the 2nd bottles, the Emission light disappear. It's been over 1,000 miles and 3 full tank fill up, the light has NOT reappear. Prior to this, it would appear about 75 miles after fill up. Keep my finger cross! Do I feel performance difference? NO! However, if this could clear the P0430 for $37, I am all for it! Good luck to everyone and hope this helps!
Thanks for the updates
After several months running on on/off Emissions lights and several bottles of Fuel Injector cleaner, I did notice some improvement to acceleration and my mpg average moved up from 21.3 to 21.8, which must be due to injector cleaner.
In my mailbox today, I received a notice from Honda Corporation that they will repair all P0430, P0420, P0300 - P0306, P219A, P219B. I am beyond thrill after suffering over year of poor acceleration, Honda finally came thru. Can't wait to get to the dealership to have it fixed once and for all! Thank you for all that have all read my updates and issue with my Honda Pilot.
What is that ticking noise from the engine
Fuel injection
honda's turbo
@@zkmoonea what makes a ticking noise on a turbo?
Stupid Honda design....they can’t make it quieter engine. I was able to get rid off that ticking sound on my old 02 MDX after cleaning intake manifold completely removed and cleaned, new EGR, clean EGR pipe, throttle, new IAC valve etc. Made engine super quiet than any other new Honda/Acura. Honda/Acura design = Carbon build up everywhere. Toyota no issues at all.
Just a loud Honda engine. All the Honda engines are loud. I bought my CRV new in '16 and the engine noise freaked me out until I heard others the same way.
Honda generators are loud too 😂
That’s much easier
You can buy a can and add it to your gas tank. Stop by the auto department next time you're in Wal-Mart. Or, you can do things the difficult way too - your choice.
wow, looks like a lot of work or stuff I don't need to worry about with my current 2009 Oddy, its running fine for now. (200k)
I was looking into a replacement 2019/2020 Honda Odyssey with this engine. The following video after your is ...ua-cam.com/video/VIRBsn3xfoc/v-deo.html
Im going to investigate Toyota next. The Toyota uses a timing chain as well.
Honda does not make good engines anymore i'm convinced. This sounds like a tractor!
On the same page. I've heard first time that Honda went full GDI the last year with no PFI like Toyota does. Old EcoBoost was there until all the issues came up, Ford had to add PFI. Honda went nuts lately with turbos on small engines and idiotic GDI only engines
@@deseremere and if the owners use anything other than top tier synthetics in colder weather, then R.I.P. cold start viscosity is extremely important with these turbos and especially GDI engines
Freaking GDI.....why can’t car companies stick with what works, you probably get another 1-3 mpg because of this non sense. Most owners don’t know we have to do this.
But thank you for the video.
I agree, port injection still the best
Because they've all dropped their pants to the EPA to pick up 0.25 mpg CAFE.
Oh fuck, I found this week that Honda started using GDI only engines on Pilots since 2017. No, you can't clean it with CRC, you will have to go hard cleaning. I don't have time for that crap, no Pilot 2020 for me