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Tadej Pogacar Makes History on Plateau de Beille | Tour de France 2024 Stage 15

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  • Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Tour de France 2024 Stage 15.
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  • @MM93_SV5
    @MM93_SV5 Місяць тому +692

    Again we watch the whole stage and wait for lantern rouge to upload the analysis

    • @Dg-3005
      @Dg-3005 Місяць тому +5

      Real

    • @endorphintherapist
      @endorphintherapist Місяць тому +3

      Exactly my thoughts!

    • @therider4909
      @therider4909 Місяць тому +3

      @@vaibhavsharma2700 zero chance of that happening. I won't watch Horner's videos because his 'analysis' is generally poor. He tries too hard to make himself look clever.

    • @MrPSG78
      @MrPSG78 Місяць тому

      Slight correction, it's "flamme rouge". "Lanterne rouge" designs a team or an athlete being last in the classification

  • @ad9898
    @ad9898 Місяць тому +475

    6.98wkg for 39 mins at the end of a 5000 metre elevation stage is insane, finally Bjarne Riis's 6.95wkg for 35 mins on Hautacam in 1996 is beaten, also Riis's time came at the end of a stage that was flat besides the last climb. Amazing from Pog.

    • @ShawnIsBatman
      @ShawnIsBatman Місяць тому +70

      Riis was a rolling chemistry experiment. Full respect to Pog for the amazing effort.

    • @BMinus0593
      @BMinus0593 Місяць тому +131

      @@ShawnIsBatmanyou’re saying it’s a non-doper beating a known doper ??

    • @grant_dubs
      @grant_dubs Місяць тому +115

      @@BMinus0593yeah idk how all these newbies seem to think he’s doing doper w/kg naturally. after doing a giro as well…

    • @ShawnIsBatman
      @ShawnIsBatman Місяць тому +129

      @@BMinus0593 I believe in evidence only. Riis was a proven doper, Pog has never been proven as such. I believe Pog is a far superior rider than Riis ever was, current technology/equipment is better, nutrition is better, training is better, etc.

    • @BMinus0593
      @BMinus0593 Місяць тому +121

      @@ShawnIsBatman yes, innocent until proven guilty. But remember Armstrong was innocent for years until he wasn’t. Pogacar makes Armstrong look like an average domestique in comparison

  • @XavierHipolito
    @XavierHipolito Місяць тому +140

    Almeida droping at almost the start of the climb and finishing 5th. That performance deserves a shout out.

    • @jytj675j4
      @jytj675j4 Місяць тому +7

      Yeah, he knew his limit perfectly unlike some

    • @bensachs1855
      @bensachs1855 Місяць тому +4

      Classic Almeida things

    • @JanneBernards
      @JanneBernards Місяць тому +2

      @@jytj675j4 Is this a snipe at Vingegaard, because that makes no sense. Vingegaard didn't fade. He had the performance of his life. Pogacar was just even better.

    • @pythor2117
      @pythor2117 Місяць тому +1

      yeah this is what Almeida usually does

    • @blackpaint9093
      @blackpaint9093 18 днів тому

      Litterally almeida first to fall off everytime, but always pushes to the limit and somehow ends up better than most

  • @Nonixification
    @Nonixification Місяць тому +632

    The break away is waste of energy when you have aliens on bikes

    •  Місяць тому +38

      The advantage of going on breakaway is that sometimes thos alien's strategies let the breakaway go. It will be always a good bet looking for the victory

    • @user-en9qd5nx8w
      @user-en9qd5nx8w Місяць тому +8

      You're right, when you have Pogi who gods honest wants to win everything. For chrissakes he was racing in the sprint the other day. But seriously, in most years, the GC teams "take a break" so to speak on some of these days, but this year not so much. The break away is never getting a chance. There are a few stages coming up that Pogi might consider his 3 min lead enough and Visma may want to take a relaxed day to try and regroup.

    • @fourtheboys96
      @fourtheboys96 Місяць тому +2

      They get Kom or sprint points

    • @syafiqridzuanable
      @syafiqridzuanable Місяць тому

      It js luck😂😂, GC cud hv js let em go

    • @timverrecchia1654
      @timverrecchia1654 Місяць тому +1

      when they start attacking each other rather then focussing on the widening the gap the breakaway crumbles

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman Місяць тому +180

    Visma played all the cards that they had today....they tried to make the stage as hard as possible to potentially get a repeat of previous Tours where they have been able to put Pog in difficulty. With Pog being just too strong, with Jonas probably not being at 100% and with Visma not having the ideal team at the TdF (missing Kuss) this is the result. Respect to Visma/Jonas for putting everything into the attempt and respect/kudos to Pog for being just too good.

    • @itstrbo
      @itstrbo Місяць тому +15

      I feel like Wout has not been as big of a factor this year

    • @ShawnIsBatman
      @ShawnIsBatman Місяць тому +20

      @@itstrbo Wout had a significant crash at Dwars door Vlaanderen, fractured seven ribs, his collarbone and sternum.

    • @sweatdrops5071
      @sweatdrops5071 Місяць тому +7

      @@ShawnIsBatman it's not only kuss, the whole team is gimped this year. Very poor luck

    • @Infiltator2
      @Infiltator2 Місяць тому +11

      Yeah Visma tried it, thats what i want to see. They don’t even have that strong of a team but still are the only one doing anything. Quickstep does nothing as well es Ineos. Only Visma and UAE pulling and controlling. Great work from both these teams

    • @itstrbo
      @itstrbo Місяць тому

      @ShawnIsBatman good point, I thought he would have been recovered a bit more than he is...

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 Місяць тому +236

    LOL the biggest powerplay move by Pog-Jonas is struggling while Pog casually rides handsfree and pours water on himself 😂😂😂

    • @rickkuny6591
      @rickkuny6591 Місяць тому +25

      If your Jonas it doesn’t get any more stinging than that when you see that in the replays.

    • @bozidarfutoski1865
      @bozidarfutoski1865 Місяць тому

      POGAČAR SE ŠLEPA I SAMO ČEKA DA ODRADI ZSVRŠNICU, A TO ŠTO VOŽI BEZ RUKU I PLIVA SE VODOM NIJE NIŠTA NAROČITO.

    • @fangru7294
      @fangru7294 Місяць тому +13

      Yeah, when I saw that I told myself: Ok its over. Now all Jonas fanboys already doing damage control in all comments section by saying he had crash and he is not 100% altough his numbers are best ever and even Jonas said he is riding his all time best lol

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 Місяць тому +6

      @@fangru7294Yes, their main point being: Yeah Jonas rides his all times best but just imagine how much bestest he would be if not for the crash. 😂😂😂
      Anyway, I’d not say this Tour is over, not yet. Real pain comes on stages 19 and 20 and then the TT. Anything can happen.

    • @patrickthorsen5487
      @patrickthorsen5487 Місяць тому +2

      pog just have the best doping

  • @XR4turbo
    @XR4turbo Місяць тому +168

    When Jonas put in that out of the saddle effort and Tadej stuck with him without much apparent effort, I knew Tadej was going to launch. I didn't think he would go that far from the summit though. Jonas does not have the same form as last year, that much is clear, and Tadej is much stronger than last year and seems to be handling heat better (no open Jersey!). Cant wait to see them both at 100%

    • @Elu_ahah
      @Elu_ahah Місяць тому +38

      The reason why he went so far is because in that moment Jonas slightly reduced his pace and he was looking back, which is basically the ultimate sign that he’s at his limit, Pogacar saw that and immediately attacked, that’s my take on it at least.

    • @fangru7294
      @fangru7294 Місяць тому +57

      Bro. Jonas literally said it was his best riding ever. And by the numbers he is stronger than last year.

    • @dennismurimi2
      @dennismurimi2 Місяць тому +30

      Vingegaard is good as he was in the previous years, rumour has it that his numbers are even better than last year...he even called today's performance ' the best effort of my life'. Pogačar is in the shape of his life I think.

    • @scooter2163
      @scooter2163 Місяць тому +11

      @@fangru7294 He's lacking endurance and deep fitness that he had last year. Jonas had a far less than ideal preparation considering his accident early in the season. He's too classy to make excuses so he won't even mention it.

    • @fangru7294
      @fangru7294 Місяць тому +19

      @@scooter2163 stop tha glaze and just admit that he got beat even when he is in hist best shape ever. We have stats for it. You have nothing and even the guy himself contradicts you...

  • @sergiodemichele6295
    @sergiodemichele6295 Місяць тому +633

    A general consideration on cycling today: top riders are now able to climb climbs between 8 and 9% gradient at well over 20 km/h; anyone who has ever practiced cycling knows that being in the slipstream of another cyclist going at more than 20 km/h leads to a significant energy saving; the consequence of this is that now only climbs that are consistently 9-10% or more represent a "neutral" battlefield, capable of highlighting pure climbing skills like those of Vingegaard

    • @raphaeltiziani7476
      @raphaeltiziani7476 Місяць тому +69

      agree but its not that easy to find climbs with 12+% avg gradients..

    • @Gimmesoup88
      @Gimmesoup88 Місяць тому +62

      And then take what pogacar said about Vingegaard in that interview, where he stated that Vingegaard must be scared because Vingegaard sat at his wheel. I can't stand pogacar, that man slings out foul words - when he is the one that ALWAYS is on Vingegaard's wheel, roll back the clips of the last couple of TDF and see. Hypocrisy of a manchild. Cool he can beat a man that nearly died in April 👍 rock on

    • @Kook___
      @Kook___ Місяць тому +355

      @@Gimmesoup88why are u yapping nonsense. there’s no foul words and it’s more of his point of view and perception during the race.

    • @l.d.t.6327
      @l.d.t.6327 Місяць тому +236

      @@Gimmesoup88thoughts and prayers for your feelings and emotions with regards to who is on who’s wheel.

    • @fanda6122
      @fanda6122 Місяць тому +64

      @@Gimmesoup88 lmao bit different they were on approx the same time on gravel trying to distance roglic. the gap expanded yesterday in the mountains to 2 min it was up to jonas to be aggressive. you don't understand the dynamics of the sport whatsoever

  • @emotivemulsion
    @emotivemulsion Місяць тому +315

    Just popping in to say that I appreciate the non-sensationalist title today

    • @Matt-io8cx
      @Matt-io8cx Місяць тому +11

      but how else can patrick be a professional youtuber with out the over the top title and thumbnail 😔

    • @doublermc7775
      @doublermc7775 Місяць тому +33

      Tadej Pogacar SPANKS Jonas Vingegaard on Plateau de Beille | Tour de France 2024 Stage 15

    • @mjcau
      @mjcau Місяць тому +1

      If there isn't a FULL-CAPS hyperbole in the title are you even trying? But yes, I also appreciate it - the hyperbolification of UA-cam titles only ends up completely demented if taken to the logical extreme.

    • @Mrwhomeyou
      @Mrwhomeyou Місяць тому +1

      @@mjcau for real, today and yesterday's racing is not "sensational" lol we see the same thing happen at local drop rides every weekend, except here they got 200 more watts

    • @mmmbass6068
      @mmmbass6068 Місяць тому

      YES! Have been thinking about this for a while. C’mon Pat - you’re waaay better than any of that.

  • @AshKetchhum
    @AshKetchhum Місяць тому +29

    Pog was going around 20pmh on a 11% climb at the end like nothing. Guy is a monster.

    • @hezediel2166
      @hezediel2166 21 день тому

      Guy is doped af. He broke Pantani's record by 3 min! Everybody knows Pantani was highly EPO'ed during the Tour 98. How can you break a record like that? Pogi is dopped without the shawdow of a doubt. Period.

    • @GoustiFruit
      @GoustiFruit 7 днів тому

      @@hezediel2166 Disk brakes man, disk brakes.

    • @hezediel2166
      @hezediel2166 5 днів тому

      @@GoustiFruit cry more, I'm right.

  • @hutchy_4297
    @hutchy_4297 Місяць тому +410

    I have to give JV credit, at least he had the balls to try something unlike some other riders.

    • @sibusisobuthelezi2427
      @sibusisobuthelezi2427 Місяць тому +11

      I see what you did there. 😂😂

    • @marquesreyes3287
      @marquesreyes3287 Місяць тому

      STFU, that wheel sucker finally got a taste of his medicine. It's too bad Remco couldn't match the power. JV will never win a classic cause he has no balls

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong Місяць тому

      Some other riders have Ligma.

    • @danielkaminske5048
      @danielkaminske5048 Місяць тому

      I just want to stop talkin about other men's balls all together!

    • @shanebarten1295
      @shanebarten1295 Місяць тому +17

      Jonas is a little rat 🐀, pogi is the 🐐

  • @Merkaba85
    @Merkaba85 Місяць тому +30

    7 W/kg, for 40 min, after 200 km/5k meters, no fatigue on the top. Nice ride.

    • @Mrwhomeyou
      @Mrwhomeyou Місяць тому +21

      "Afternoon ride"

    • @geuros
      @geuros Місяць тому +3

      Forgot to mention there are probably less than 10 cyclists faster than him in a sprint

    • @anrakspumante5958
      @anrakspumante5958 Місяць тому

      Thats not correct. You cant say after 5k meters, because Vingegaard startet the attack 10km before the finish :P

    • @Jon-cw8bb
      @Jon-cw8bb Місяць тому

      ​@@anrakspumante5958 4800m climbing vertical

    • @noexit7089
      @noexit7089 Місяць тому

      200 km of warming up😅

  • @J-cz7yv
    @J-cz7yv Місяць тому +146

    Greatest season ever to this point. Rooting for him to keep making history this year, it’s been incredible to watch!

    • @danielfazolo8622
      @danielfazolo8622 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, and keep in mind this ALIEN will fight for OLYMPIC GOLD. Can you imagine? Jesus

    • @barath4545
      @barath4545 Місяць тому +7

      If Poggy takes the Tour, he should absolutely grind out a participation in the Vuelta as well!
      Even if he is long-term tired, he can win that one too and nail the TRIPLE this year.
      Not even counting a probable Silver/Bronze in the TT in Paris (Wont win the line race, waste of time for him to participate in that)

    • @AshKetchhum
      @AshKetchhum Місяць тому +1

      @@barath4545he did do a better TT than Ganna at the GIRO so gold is possible.

    • @danielfazolo8622
      @danielfazolo8622 Місяць тому

      @@barath4545 He wont go to the Vuelta. UAE already said it publicly.

  • @eonbart
    @eonbart Місяць тому +23

    Absolutely amazing performance from Pogi. Jonas said after the stage that it was one of his best performances ever. And yet he loses over a minute. Complete fireworks here again. Visma must be a bit frustrated, as they did almost everything right today. Relay station would have been nice, of course, but they don't have the ideal rider for it this year because of all the absences

    • @tollph3314
      @tollph3314 Місяць тому +5

      1 minute is very little when we look at estimated numbers and times of that climb after such hard day Jonas is 99% as he was last year maybe there is some tiny margin but Pogačar is clearly in form of his life ,he is 25 afterall Jonas is 27 Pogačar is now reaching peak in terms of average fittness of males are usually around 24-28 of course its individually divided but he clearly improved year by year a little Jonas performance this tour are still nuts considering nasty crash 3 months ago and not enough training before TDF

    • @eonbart
      @eonbart Місяць тому

      @@tollph3314 100% agree. I didnt think he would race after that crash. And now he is at 99% or maybe even 100%. Insane performance from him. Remco also stronger than I thought. Pog is just as you said in the form of his life.

    • @BenjaminKV17
      @BenjaminKV17 Місяць тому

      @@eonbart i would say vingegaard is around 100% of what he could have done after the crash but i think i he hadnt had crashed he would have been much better this year like 105%

    • @tollph3314
      @tollph3314 Місяць тому

      @@eonbart indeed,third week is still very interesting big 2 mountain stages and interesting TT with decent climbs also

  • @ranisharoni75
    @ranisharoni75 Місяць тому +107

    Pogi taking 2 minutes from Armstrong yesterday and 3:30 from 98 Pantani - completely out of this world
    Last 10KM - Pantani 28:18 Jonas 25:27 Pogi 24:18!!
    4 minutes in the last 10KM on attacking 98 Pantani is unreal (also 2:50 for Jonas without draft)

    • @santiagobenites
      @santiagobenites Місяць тому +15

      There have been a lot of advances in science in since the Armstrong/Pantani era.

    • @onepunchbud1472
      @onepunchbud1472 Місяць тому +30

      To be fair, nowadays they have much better equipment - faster bikes, aero suits, even helmets are tested in the wind tunnel and so on.
      Everything is getting optimised training wise, food and so on.
      But i know what you are referring to... In general it's not surprising that its getting faster. Are they clean? No idea.

    • @andretim75
      @andretim75 Місяць тому +56

      DOPING , more DOPING , and even more DOPING !
      anything else is ridiculous greenness !!

    • @onepunchbud1472
      @onepunchbud1472 Місяць тому +16

      @@ranisharoni75 PS: when you think of Jonas TT last years time trial for example, he is in the same boat imo.
      If they do sth., they both are and probably many more.

    • @cracked229
      @cracked229 Місяць тому +37

      @@onepunchbud1472 The exact same things were being said during Armstrong's era, it's rather amusing to watch history repeat itself.

  • @samsemilia1717
    @samsemilia1717 Місяць тому +5

    Actually this is what pure science is looking like. Perfect diet perfect genetic perfect training perfekt setting and and mental strength

    • @rampetampen
      @rampetampen 25 днів тому

      Don't be fooled...Its all about 💉💉💉💉💉

  • @scottmcduff852
    @scottmcduff852 Місяць тому +8

    I’m just amazed he is second in the GC after his crash a few months ago, he must have the heart of a lion! I just
    Hope he can keep it up. Huge respect to him.

    • @azizrosden7450
      @azizrosden7450 Місяць тому

      yes jv are prepare to be no 2 this year 😮😮

  • @pauljansen1137
    @pauljansen1137 Місяць тому +201

    The first 4 riders all broke the previous record on this climb....not just Pogacar....the level of these riders is just so damn high the last few years......with 1 Cannibal leaving few crumbs for the rest....

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong Місяць тому

      Landa breaking the previous record is impressive

    • @vdpnicolas5666
      @vdpnicolas5666 Місяць тому +37

      4 min faster than Epo rider Pantani...

    • @pauljansen1137
      @pauljansen1137 Місяць тому +25

      @@vdpnicolas5666 I get your point....however....innocent till proven otherwise, right?

    • @peterers3
      @peterers3 Місяць тому +2

      @@vdpnicolas5666 El Pirata Marco Pentani.

    • @vdpnicolas5666
      @vdpnicolas5666 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@pauljansen1137yeah. Right...

  • @Pgdgolfer
    @Pgdgolfer Місяць тому +18

    Lucky enough to get up the mountains today. Super crowds for Bastille Day.
    Gotta say all these lads fly uphill!
    Pogi making it look effortless.

    • @andretim75
      @andretim75 Місяць тому

      YEs -- and of course they are all onS COMPLETELY HONEST AND CLEAN !!!!😇

  • @catosal0659
    @catosal0659 Місяць тому +4

    어제 정말 재미있었어요. 이렇게 재미있는 뚜르를 다시 보게 될 줄이야...시종일관 페로톤 리드하는 비즈마 보면서 마지막 업힐에서 어택 나오겠다 예상했는데, 역시 교과서적인 어택. 규격외가 있어서 작전이 먹히질 않았네요. 풀 컨디션 요나스였다면 어땠을까라는 생각을 안 할 수는 없지만, 타데이가 멋지게 해냈네요. 요나스도 힘내길. 아직 3주차의 더 고통스럽고 긴 업힐이 남았으니...끝 날 때까지 끝난 게 아니니까.

  • @DanielSantos-jw8kk
    @DanielSantos-jw8kk Місяць тому +7

    UAE with 3 riders in the top 6 of the stage. The 10th guy almost 6 minutes down. Insane.

  • @josephmerluza93
    @josephmerluza93 Місяць тому +2

    hats off to both all the riders of tdf this year, but this 2 riders is superhuman. they are in different league of their own. thats why this 2 holding the tour in the last 4 years. what ang amazing era of tdf were witnessing.

  • @MartinRamette
    @MartinRamette Місяць тому +13

    The year-on-year improvement by everyone (but mostly UAE and pogi) just has to be discussed. How has pogi improved that much compared to the rest of his career? How is vingo at his all-time best despite the injuries?? How is remco in the top 40 all-time and buitrago superior to peak Froome??? Either the w/kg estimate model is wrong or something crazy is going on in the peloton

    • @f00b4r7
      @f00b4r7 Місяць тому +3

      I mean Pogi is still very young so him getting better every year shouldnt be suprising. Last year he came back from a injury into the tour and the years before he didnt really had a great team. So him being way stronger then in the past seems very logical. Especially having such a strong team and always having suppurt till like the last few killometers is huge advantage and saves u much engery both physically and mentally.

    • @BenjaminKV17
      @BenjaminKV17 Місяць тому +1

      jonas would be at 105% his form right now if it wasnt for the crash

    • @MartinRamette
      @MartinRamette Місяць тому +4

      @@BenjaminKV17 He is already at 105% of 2023 jonas, which already was one of the best rider ever. Where would he be without the injuries? 110%? 115%? It doesn't answer how a lot of the peloton got 10% better compared to last year. There are enough outlier performances (ulissi prati di tivo, yates at swiss, now these back-to-back pyrenees stages) to question either the model or the riders, imo

    • @stephenm4830
      @stephenm4830 Місяць тому +1

      @@MartinRametteit’s both the model and otherwise. Wind was coming from the north, climb goes south, but article still states headwind. Not sure where they are getting their wind data, but you can even see fans holding flags that are pushed in to them by tailwind. Im open to being wrong but rn I only see 10km/h tailwind. Probably 6.7ewkg for Pogi, still an alien performance.

  • @beckobert
    @beckobert Місяць тому +54

    Visma LAB just perfectly delivered Pogačar to his 3 stage win. Amazing to see such great collaboration across teams. Even Vingegaard chipped in.

    • @BoCaine
      @BoCaine Місяць тому +7

      Chips and Vingegaard

  • @username8644
    @username8644 Місяць тому +9

    Been waiting for this since I missed the stage climbing the ventoux.

  • @woutkoopman
    @woutkoopman Місяць тому +38

    Honestly this is just supernatural. I can't believe what Pogi is doing right now. Logically Pogi is declining after 2 tough weeks Tour and the Giro, but he seems to be getting better. He should really go to Vuelta, who's gonna oppose him there? He could do the impossible.

    • @blue-pi2kt
      @blue-pi2kt Місяць тому +8

      I think if he wins either the Worlds, Olympics or Vuelta - he's entering that rare air that only Eddy Merckx has visited.

    • @xx765
      @xx765 Місяць тому +8

      Thing is it wasn't that tough (for him). Giro was basically a really good training block for him.

    • @BPM-xh4yu
      @BPM-xh4yu Місяць тому +2

      he would walk away with the Vuelta

    • @BlackTone91
      @BlackTone91 Місяць тому +4

      Jonas for sure can go to Vuelta

    • @Orixil
      @Orixil Місяць тому +3

      @@BlackTone91 Jonas' wife is expecting in the fall. He's not doing the Vuelta.

  • @osfan25
    @osfan25 Місяць тому +3

    A couple things about this stage:
    -Jonas looks weird in the polka dot jersey.
    -I was thinking about all the riders who have gotten sick or have covid. Then I remembered Pogi got covid just prior to the Tour, which in hindsight is probably a blessing in disguise.
    -Luckily for Pogi it's a sprint stage after the rest day, that way he can jump in the pool all he wants tomorrow.

  • @GO-cg4sn
    @GO-cg4sn Місяць тому +2

    Deel van de live uitzending op sporza vandaag (zondag) gemist maar met een goeie reden, in een aangename tuin, leuke dieren en superlieve gastheer en gastvrouw gesmuld van een lekkere picknick. En wat er gemist werd kunnen we hier herbeleven. grtjs vanuit ichtegem - oostende

  • @ericfaulk2204
    @ericfaulk2204 Місяць тому +2

    It's amazing to me that people see these riders smashing course records with no obvious signs of extreme fatigue after, and can't immediately surmise that the entire field is doping.

  • @ocean9131
    @ocean9131 Місяць тому +84

    Pogy needs the gap before the alps but hell I’m all in in the dream now he’s doing the triple

    • @Maxibsa
      @Maxibsa Місяць тому +23

      If he doesnt explode Like last year. He will get the Tour. Would be Crazy if he also gets the Vuelta. If he Starts and Jonas doesnt he would win it

    • @benkroukamp8372
      @benkroukamp8372 Місяць тому

      Is he doing the vuelta?

    • @ocean9131
      @ocean9131 Місяць тому +17

      @@benkroukamp8372 not officially but if he wins the le tour he might have that ambition

    • @raphaeltiziani7476
      @raphaeltiziani7476 Місяць тому +5

      after that he can directly retire

    • @GansHanders
      @GansHanders Місяць тому +15

      ​@@ocean9131He is going to do the Olympics and World Championship. No Vuelta.

  • @genghi5khan
    @genghi5khan Місяць тому +9

    Four Cat 1 climbs... crazy. Jonas doing amazing for being in recovery. Was hoping Remco and Primož would've been able to keep it close and competitive.

  • @Calidastas
    @Calidastas Місяць тому +2

    I think we need a shout out for the unsung heroes of the TDF - the research scientists who’ve come through with the amazing pharmaceuticals that enable performances like this 🎉💪🏻👏🏻 I thought they did an amazing job with EPO in the 90’s but this new stuff is pure nitrous oxide 🔥 Great job nerds! 👏🏻🎖️🎖️🎖️

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong Місяць тому +42

    Visma were brilliant today, they tried everything to wear down Pog, but he is just too strong rn. Probably Pog's best performance on a hot day, after a hard stage on a long summit finish, that's usually the scenario where Pog struggles most, but today he looked invincible.

    • @arthurwolfram3697
      @arthurwolfram3697 Місяць тому +17

      Pog did today the best Performance of all time, Jonas did the second best Performance of all time Looking at the w/kg.

    • @user-vt4hd8hb4v
      @user-vt4hd8hb4v Місяць тому +2

      It's officialy the best performance of all times. He beat Pantani's record by 3 minutes.

    • @pnkdrmz
      @pnkdrmz Місяць тому +2

      @@user-vt4hd8hb4v pantani stage in 98 ended a few hundred meters earlier too. his pace was definitely 4+ minutes slower than pogi today

  • @johandenizot3319
    @johandenizot3319 Місяць тому +5

    the juice is working great!!

  • @lemming78
    @lemming78 Місяць тому +1

    Pogi is smashing records since years. Either hes under a drug that can not be detected yet or he s truly the best of all times. He wins everywhere, which makes me think he is just talented and genetically superior for cycling.

    • @rampetampen
      @rampetampen 25 днів тому

      💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉

  • @bbqcrew1
    @bbqcrew1 Місяць тому +28

    Having watched cycling for 40 years, I'm getting an uneasy feeling. I can understand the faster climb times with the better bikes and nutrition etc.
    The watt per kg numbers for the riders are...
    Explain to me how even an elite athlete can get off a bike after 40 minutes of max effort and be able to breathe comfortably and speak.

    • @Mrwhomeyou
      @Mrwhomeyou Місяць тому +9

      "ah shit, here we go again" feeling

    • @brianrainey2739
      @brianrainey2739 Місяць тому +14

      Exactly. The veteran watchers sit quietly and wait….

    • @zroeder
      @zroeder Місяць тому +3

      yeah, d'un autre monde 😂.
      As long as motors aren’t involved, I’m enjoying the show.

    • @trevoranyonyi70
      @trevoranyonyi70 Місяць тому +1

      Uhm... because they train? 🤔

    • @durbz6657
      @durbz6657 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@trevoranyonyi70we have seen all of the same arguments during Armstrong era. Turned out we were right. Jonas and Pog are not as arrogant as Lance so me may never find out

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 Місяць тому +2

    Now w this deficit I can see only one way for vingegaard: pull a Landis tourc2006? Froome giro: has to go from approx 100k
    If he goes on an x hit day, he can get ice water every 5 min, car always there, if alone. If x hot, that constant ice water was big help to Landis
    They can ask Tom dumalon how fromme did it
    Greatness today, pogacar. I did not expect such level of greatness.,my error

  • @g_y.rtz420
    @g_y.rtz420 Місяць тому +2

    pog's pace, cadence and visage following jonas while sitting down is scary. Like otherworldly scary. And when jonas turned around after his final attack while dancing and pog was still there, still sitting, oh my god. some anime type shi if you ask me. Like add in some death note/aot style editing, direction and music and you can sell this tdf edition to the kids. I may be clowning but rewind back to 4:58 to 5:55 and its just freaky man namsayin

  • @sgameirojr
    @sgameirojr Місяць тому +3

    😂😂😂😂😂
    Cycling Highlights will have a field day.

  • @joachimberthelsen9274
    @joachimberthelsen9274 Місяць тому +11

    Pogacar wins the giro, tour and vuelta. And of course the OL. There is no stopping him apparantly.

  • @shicheng1953
    @shicheng1953 Місяць тому +6

    As a casual fan, I don't really care if Pogacar is doping or not, his cycling style is cool to watch and good for the sport. And the fact that there are still Vinagard and Remco to challenge him that's the TDF I want to watch

  • @cheechorino3710
    @cheechorino3710 Місяць тому +8

    Pogi is at a different level right now

    • @marcusschou1843
      @marcusschou1843 Місяць тому +7

      Yea the dope level

    • @sean7456
      @sean7456 Місяць тому

      ​@@marcusschou1843 what banned substance, specifically?

    • @JacobChristiansen1
      @JacobChristiansen1 Місяць тому

      @@sean7456 probably microdosing

  • @Anders11J
    @Anders11J Місяць тому +28

    Pog is so good

    • @Flewty
      @Flewty Місяць тому +3

      He is not credible.

    • @plain-bagel
      @plain-bagel Місяць тому +1

      @@Flewty 🥱

  • @jfreck
    @jfreck Місяць тому +4

    We need those edm insta reel edits Patrick !!

  • @louKushh
    @louKushh Місяць тому +2

    every sport is doped up. I don't care, I come here for the spectacle of it all!

  • @philipk4475
    @philipk4475 Місяць тому +1

    Three big things going on. Altitude training has become much more scientific with less guess work.
    Heat management is now standard with heat training and much more effort put into keeping athletes cool before and during the stage and
    3) fueling has been increased by a LOT. Some WT pros are consuming 140g of carbs per hour

  • @johndanter7834
    @johndanter7834 Місяць тому +2

    Jonas is pulling out his best numbers ever. There is nothing wrong with him.
    Yes he had a crash but he wouldn't be there and the team wouldn't be killing themselves for him if he was subpar. He's riding better numbers than 2023.
    It's just that UAE have used the reverse of what JV have been doing to Tadej, learning how to crack him, Tadej and UAE has learned what cracks him and trained to counter it. He's in recent interviews saying this (he's tweaked his training for the types of stages that normally break him).
    He's learned to stay cool, he's fueling better, he's just BETTER than Jonas is.
    It also wouldn't suprise me to hear UAE and Tadej used the Giro, especially the way the team rode, as a training excercise for the TdF
    People need to accept this and stop dismissing what Tadej is doing, he's immense. They both are to be fair. Jonas in the past has benefited from Tadej having bad days and really putting the hammer down when he has, this year, he's not having any of note

    • @BenjaminKV17
      @BenjaminKV17 Місяць тому

      i get what you're saying with hes better than last year but if not for the crash he world probably be 5% better than he is right now

  • @Marques127
    @Marques127 Місяць тому +25

    THE KING IS BACK THE KING IS BACK THE KING IS BACK@@@@@@@@@

    • @andretim75
      @andretim75 Місяць тому +3

      YEs - the King of DOPING 🤑🤑🤑🤣🤣🤣

  • @patrickroldan1336
    @patrickroldan1336 Місяць тому +41

    it's clear how bad visma is missing GC Kuss

    • @fanda6122
      @fanda6122 Місяць тому +6

      kuss tanked his prep to get out of his contact ef wants him bad

    • @emark02
      @emark02 Місяць тому +1

      My sentiments as well

    • @henriknilsson7730
      @henriknilsson7730 Місяць тому +15

      Kuss wouldnt have altered anything with how Pogacar is riding this year. Frankly, Kuss has not been riding serious since his vuelta win.

    • @user-vt4hd8hb4v
      @user-vt4hd8hb4v Місяць тому

      Even Kuss couldn't do much against this monster

    • @dimsunny9725
      @dimsunny9725 Місяць тому

      @@henriknilsson7730 - I agree: Pogi is set to win irrespective, which is why his pending win is so monumental

  • @fabrizimellano1112
    @fabrizimellano1112 Місяць тому

    I would like to see something that has never happened so far in professional cycling, something that is considered impossible, winning tour giro and vuelta in the same year, he's the one who can try and make it!!

  • @alexmites
    @alexmites Місяць тому +2

    1:54 wild Patrick cameo

  • @eduardoazeredo6250
    @eduardoazeredo6250 Місяць тому +1

    Pog slayed the hammer and he seemed pretty composed before and after his final attack. Perhaps the earlier losses for Vingegaard, that were better than he expected, came at the cost of a huge effort from the Dane and we're seeing a more accurate picture of where he is in relation to his rival.
    Now, it must be said. We've been hearing for a year that Vingegaard had a better team last year. Now UAE has 3 riders on top 10 and even Soudal has 2 while Visma only has Jonas as of today. Non-GC Kuss is something we miss dearly.

  • @easternbrown
    @easternbrown Місяць тому +2

    5:23 Pog is just 🍿

  • @valleyem1
    @valleyem1 Місяць тому +3

    From what we saw on Friday, I’d say the biggest danger to Pogi, is him crashing out in the bunch sprint on Tuesday.

  • @fathertime7864
    @fathertime7864 Місяць тому +1

    I can honestly respect this from Visma and JV more rather than just waiting for Pog to attack (which he will do even if he doesn't need to 😂)
    This shows they have confidence in JV's form. And it's probably the best stage to do so. It's hot, UAE rode a hard race in the previous stage, climb suits Jonas, worth the shot. Respectable performance from Jonas but this is Pog's year.

    • @WildPhotoShooter
      @WildPhotoShooter Місяць тому +1

      Eddy Merckx used to attack even when he didn't need to, Pogacar has that same mindset......the best form of defence is attack.

  • @jearwood85
    @jearwood85 Місяць тому +4

    if it seems too good to be true.... it is

  • @TheLanorth
    @TheLanorth Місяць тому +1

    Strong battle from TVL! But Pogacar is even stronger, great stage, epic battle!

  • @pythor2117
    @pythor2117 Місяць тому

    The time gaps on this stage look like GC standings after a week long stage race. NUTS

  • @miloscoopy2469
    @miloscoopy2469 Місяць тому +1

    Whn you climb like pogacar dud, after 2 weeks of continuous racing is crazy

  • @marktahu2932
    @marktahu2932 Місяць тому +1

    Well done Tadej! And Jonas. For Visma Team watching Tadej pour water on himself hands free, must have been heartbreaking.

  • @frankpeter9145
    @frankpeter9145 Місяць тому +1

    What a crazy weekend.

  • @el_carbonara
    @el_carbonara Місяць тому +1

    pogi looks so strong and fresh even with that huge effort. I know vingegaard is not fully fit but damn he looks weak and putting on a few kgs surely doesn't seem like the worst idea

  • @stephencurry8552
    @stephencurry8552 Місяць тому +2

    Great to see Tadej in top form. Never have cared for elves.

  • @paulrowe606
    @paulrowe606 Місяць тому

    Not gonna lie. This is how I like to see TP. Post race interview he looked quite relaxed. With this impressive win TP looks good. Although yes, it would not be wise to start counting your chickens just yet.!

  • @durbz6657
    @durbz6657 Місяць тому +3

    At this point i am just praying its the good old stuff rather than motors.

  • @holymackenaw
    @holymackenaw Місяць тому

    Thank you to Visma and Vingegaard for trying. Its so rare in cycling. Most teams and riders wait and wait and never do anything. Congrats to Pogi.

  • @dillonp5641
    @dillonp5641 Місяць тому +1

    Bro is on that good gear

  • @paulgilliland2992
    @paulgilliland2992 Місяць тому +2

    I’d say that was what you call conclusive.

  • @torch777
    @torch777 Місяць тому +2

    incredible who on this earth would have thought pogacar would win the TDF. incredible surprise wow, so thrilling.

  • @sebastianpetersen6136
    @sebastianpetersen6136 Місяць тому

    “The last thing I’ll say for the people that don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics, I’m sorry for you. I’m sorry you can’t dream big and I’m sorry you don’t believe in miracles...”
    -Lance Armstrong.

  • @markdowse3572
    @markdowse3572 Місяць тому +4

    Visma v UAE. JV v The Pog. The Queen's stage on Bastille Day.
    The Pog looking completely majestic, which seems fitting... 👑
    M 🦘🏏😎

  • @michaelhardiman2271
    @michaelhardiman2271 Місяць тому

    Great recap, podcast days review excellent as always

  • @Real28
    @Real28 Місяць тому

    5:26 this man is unstoppable this year. If only Jonas knew the disrespect happening on his wheel 🤣

  • @johngillis7625
    @johngillis7625 Місяць тому +18

    guys.....look, you need to talk about the white elephant in the room here. 7.4Watts/kg for 40 minutes. Why does no one want to even talk about this. He has improved more then 10% above the numbers produced by Pantatini and Lance and others. I want to believe, but it is such a dominate performance that it has taken the fun right out of the sport. Even the other riders are snickering and saying they are not even remotely close. There is not one other endurance sport in the world that has improved by that much in the last 10-20 years. in the 90s we were already at human limits. You two seem clearly very bright and informed. This was a ridiculous performance. The sport is no fun to watch when this is so in your face!
    You two are great by the way. Just rattled after watch this circus show the last few days.

    • @sean7456
      @sean7456 Місяць тому +5

      In what way were "we at the limits of human performance" in the 90s?!! That's hilarious.

    • @andrew300169
      @andrew300169 Місяць тому +3

      Marathon is now under 2 hours, every record is broken as energy replenishment, training and tech improves.

    • @Marques127
      @Marques127 Місяць тому +4

      its 6,98W/kg

    • @Ashok_Regiment
      @Ashok_Regiment Місяць тому +5

      @@andrew300169 Marathon record is not under 2 hours. Kipchogge ran a marathon distance on a closed, pan flat, park, with pacers and a car for drafting in under 2 hours but it was a circus act. And he was wearing prohibited shoes (that's the biggest advancement in long distance running in the last 10 years)

    • @andrew300169
      @andrew300169 Місяць тому +2

      @@Ashok_Regiment and pog had a special aero bike, the latest nutrition bars and recovery drinks, superior training techniques, things advance all the time in every sport, even golf courses are becoming too short

  • @ShawnStradamus520
    @ShawnStradamus520 Місяць тому +1

    Today Pogi GOTCHA!!!
    🤙🤙🤙🇸🇮💛🇫🇷

  • @angelovicentejr6381
    @angelovicentejr6381 Місяць тому +1

    Ya gotta love an Almeidada.

  • @Matt_W8
    @Matt_W8 Місяць тому +3

    Made it look easy

  • @mmmbass6068
    @mmmbass6068 Місяць тому +1

    Game Over

  • @AKLCHCHQNZ
    @AKLCHCHQNZ Місяць тому

    E.T. Strikes again
    he is the only person who can make a bicycle fly with no effort
    Only seen that once before and I never thought I would see him return in human form as Tadej Pogacar

  • @TheRealBlueSwan
    @TheRealBlueSwan Місяць тому +1

    Was this arguably the best climbing performance of all time? It seemed absolutely wild with the time gaps.

    • @user-nw5iz2xs6q
      @user-nw5iz2xs6q Місяць тому +4

      And the best thing is, Pogi is doing this absolutely clean, can you imaging that. 😂🤡 but hey he Never was tested positive, so has to be clean hasn‘t he?

  • @edgarasibal410
    @edgarasibal410 Місяць тому +2

    Why are people still dwell on the doping past decades ago? Can they not differentiate that today bikes are more modern with state of the art components? Not to mention, pricey for us common people? hehe. Also, good nutrition plus training and most importantly, unique human capability. The competitiveness and the will to excel and win can drives adrenaline to the max. So, just enjoy the show without malice and let the UCI do their work on doping.

    • @OlivierVerdys
      @OlivierVerdys Місяць тому

      ahem...compare with athletics. One could argue world records should drop faster in athletics, but they don't. Athletics has become cleaner and the 1980 East German records still stand....

    • @durbz6657
      @durbz6657 Місяць тому +1

      We heard exactly the same arguments during Armstrong era. Better preparation, never failed a test etc etc

    • @edgarasibal410
      @edgarasibal410 5 днів тому

      @@durbz6657 Just wait, if ever there is, for the result to came out, ok? If there's none yet, it is merely a hearsay.

  • @emotioneering
    @emotioneering Місяць тому +1

    These guys are riding so much quicker than those in the Armstrong era who were doping up to their eyeballs. Honest question; are the marginal gains from aero kit and better science really making that much of a difference or is there anything else going on?

    • @elliottd323
      @elliottd323 Місяць тому +1

      Something else, a skinsuit isint helping you climb 4 minutes faster then pantini

    • @benbwaite9858
      @benbwaite9858 Місяць тому

      For sure the technology is better making them ride quicker but they are pushing the same watts per kg as known dopers 🤷🏻

    • @leonardofabbri7930
      @leonardofabbri7930 Місяць тому

      Rebreathing

  • @laggypirates
    @laggypirates Місяць тому +12

    Pogi always thanking his team mates every stage win. What a sweet boy.

  • @alexroome5380
    @alexroome5380 Місяць тому

    Pog is unreal!!

  • @xx765
    @xx765 Місяць тому +1

    Not a terrible choice for TVL to try for one last time. If they can't break Pogi here then everyone just chill for the rest of the tour why not.

  • @fernandovillarreal4982
    @fernandovillarreal4982 Місяць тому

    Looks like we're back in 2021 when JV could sort of stay with Pog but couldn't beat him... Wonder if TP is going for treble this year... I think he should... Good luck to all riders stay safe.

  • @pavlenikolic3555
    @pavlenikolic3555 Місяць тому +2

    Pogacar is a maniac.

  • @kconnnnn
    @kconnnnn Місяць тому +8

    5:55 why is Tadej bullying a kid with scoliosis?

  • @janplexy
    @janplexy 26 днів тому +1

    J.Vingegaard: "I don't think he (Tadej) was better on the Plateau de Beille, but I was just not as good."
    Was this fair and humble to say?? Now I'm even more glad Pogi destroyed him.

  • @zukamot
    @zukamot Місяць тому

    ¡Felicidades a Pagacar! excelente ciclista

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 Місяць тому

    Bravo Tadej! 🇵🇱

  • @user-rn7si3il8t
    @user-rn7si3il8t Місяць тому

    Clean and credible no doubt😂😂😂😂

  • @seanmccuen6970
    @seanmccuen6970 Місяць тому

    I'd be thrilled if Landa podiumed.

  • @Scrap-press
    @Scrap-press Місяць тому +15

    Gianetti knows how to juice up his riders.

    • @santiagobenites
      @santiagobenites Місяць тому +13

      @@Scrap-press If you look at Gianetti's history, you'll see that he and many of the riders who he managed were notorious dopers. If people think that all of a sudden his top rider, who just happens to be breaking records of all the famous dopers, is riding clean then they are completely fooling themselves.

    • @Scrap-press
      @Scrap-press Місяць тому +6

      @@santiagobenites Same for Jonas many of Visma's staff are from the good old Rabobank days ie Boogerd, Decker, Rassmussen et all.

    • @santiagobenites
      @santiagobenites Місяць тому +5

      @@Scrap-press Absolutely correct, and it's no surprise that those two teams are still smashing the records.

  • @thomas77ify
    @thomas77ify 3 дні тому

    Doped to his eyebrows

  • @danpinho
    @danpinho Місяць тому +29

    Amazing how 28mm wheels and carb gels made those young athletes up to 2 minutes faster than lance. Great clean times we have.

    • @santiagobenites
      @santiagobenites Місяць тому +4

      It's definitely the wider tires LOL

    • @sean7456
      @sean7456 Місяць тому +7

      You forgot about 20 years of research and development on wheels, tires, frames, hubs, massive advancements in sport science (recovery, training, nutrition), widespread use of wind- tunnel- tested aero skin suits, aero helmets, even down to socks....
      The modern guys MUST be doping, there's just no other way they'd be faster than dudes 15-20 years ago. /s

    • @danpinho
      @danpinho Місяць тому +3

      @@sean7456 there are very, very few sports in this planet without the use of performance enhancing drugs on professional level. your ingenuity is valuable.

    • @grant_dubs
      @grant_dubs Місяць тому +7

      @@sean7456​​⁠those advancements don’t make you minutes faster than back then, pretty obvious all these dudes are back on the shit. also doing a better w/kg than a doped riis for 40 mins is not natural. we’ve never seen anyone do those numbers naturally at the tour ever.

    • @danpinho
      @danpinho Місяць тому +3

      @@santiagobenites disk brakes and electronic shifting also made them faster. And rice cakes. All natural

  • @christopherdolan7330
    @christopherdolan7330 Місяць тому +21

    Joke's on Pogacar. Visma expected to lose 3 minutes on today's stage and be at least 10 minutes down in the general classification. Trust the plan /s

    • @brucegelman5582
      @brucegelman5582 Місяць тому +5

      Just wait...the plan is to be off the podium completely

    • @clayvianwilliams6125
      @clayvianwilliams6125 Місяць тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 i didnt know the team put in all the effort to lose time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @cyclingnerddelux698
      @cyclingnerddelux698 Місяць тому

      What a noob. You. Not Pogi.

  • @carlospen8413
    @carlospen8413 Місяць тому

    tadej unstoppable

  • @joaomadureira7929
    @joaomadureira7929 Місяць тому +10

    The goat 🐐🇸🇮

    • @andretim75
      @andretim75 Місяць тому

      THE GOD of DOPING struck again

  • @colt_45.
    @colt_45. Місяць тому

    Really wish vin was fully healthy. Podecar looks to be at his best fitness of his career, would love to see them dual both at full fitness