Bought my last car, a 2000 4 cylinder Camry wagon new and still drive it every day. The only problems I ever had was a water pump failure some 5 years ago, a couple of rack and CV boots, and the hood lining is just beginning to sag around the edges. It took me two easy days and $200 to replace the water pump, the timing belt, idlers and drive belts in parts; let's see you do that with a modern car. I service it and regularly, clean the throttle body, and it has served me well. There are no oil leaks, the engine doesn't burn oil, the engine compressions haven't changed over its lifetime, and it remains as quiet as the day it was first bought. And it still has its original exhaust system. It's a station wagon, it's got a mechanical handbrake, wind-up windows, and a minimal function ECU; the options that are no longer available and everything you need for long term inexpensive and reliable motoring (imagine having a computer to control your electric handbrake when a handbrake pawl works so well - you got to be dreaming). The only thing I would have preferred is a manual transmission; oh well, you can't have everything. And now these rubes want me to waste a fortune (more than I paid for my first house) on a new car? STFU! Toyota -> as reliable as a FB Holden (1960) - except the Toyota engine last longer than the old 225 sideplate, and the Toyota body doesn't rust.
Had a 2010. Bought at 180,000kms sold at 256,000. Cost me $300 in repairs. Excellent cars. I don't get the 'boring' monicker, what car is exciting? A Lambo? A Bugatti? Reliability is always top of my list so Accords and Camrys have always been my go-to.
My mighty Falc was damaged by a numpty and I was given a Camry while it was repaired. I reckon these are the best buy on the road right now, I think Jim agrees.
I bought one of these white Hybrids in February 2024 with only 13,700kms and it is the most refined quietest car I've ever owned. It gets over 1,000kms per tank (tank size 46L) and it's EXTREMELY cheap to run. I totally recommend it. 👍
"It gets over 1,000kms per tank" ..and Ford were spruiking their guiness book of world records acheivement last week with a Mustang Mach-E EV crawling along to acheive a 900 km odd range! No wonder Toyota hybrids sell like hot cakes. For many people that's one fill up a MONTH.
@@nickjohnstone9939 that’s amazing! no wonder Toyota can’t get enough of them. I was actually eyeing a Camry Ascent Sport hybrid for a while, then the crazy Covid prices came along. I actually bought a 2012 Lexus Is350 Sports Luxury. She’s no fuel miser, but I do work from home which makes it feasible.
These guys are the Stig of used car reviews. What's it like to drive when it's brand new and lent to you for a glowing add? Just watch almost anyone elses reviews. What's it actully like, and moreover, what's the likely ownership experience? Ask Re Driven!
In QLD in April I went in a 398k km and 600 k km Camry SL hybrid Taxi, both were remarkable smooth, quiet and refined. the 398k km car was simply increible inside and out.
Finally, I can weigh in! I bought a Camry V6, 5 speed manual 2002 model brand new, and drove it for 17 years. Zero problems. Lots of memories. That V6 was very smooth and quiet, and when idling, you could hardly hear it or know that it was running. I eventually added CarPlay to it via a Sony head unit, but finally decided it was time to move on to something more modern and up to date. Also: James Camry! 😂
I own a Camry 2018 Ascent Sport (non hybrid) six speed 4 cyl.2.5 litre it’s amazing, refined and damn reliable. I service it every 7500 km’s or 6 months. Mine was made in Japan and I would highly recommend this car to anyone.
I own this 8th gen v6 currently...before that an aurion sx6.My Aurion was definately quicker prob due to the 6spd box compared to the newer 8spd maybe?.Loved owning my Aurion 175k no issues...built like a tank too.
I've had my 2011 Aurion Touring for 12 years. Have only needed to replace the alternator and a leaking drive shaft boot. Was regularly getting 11.5l per 100klm mostly suburban driving though lately its crept up by a litre or so (not sure why). Currently at 150k klms. I will probably replace it in about 3 years and maybe go for a RAV4 hybrid. Will definitely miss the power and easy overtaking ability.
I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker. I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team.
@@richscott2483 Xse would be my choice also but in New Zealand they stopped the v6 coming in in 2018 so I grabbed a low milage example when one came up for sale.Our model for Australia and nz has no sunroof or jbl audio.Oem audio was frankly very average so went to aftermarket setup...problem solved.Transmission for me seems to get a bit confused at times to what gear to select especially under acceleration.For the money they are hard to beat. Gas milage...yes thirsty city driving but I'm wiling to sacrifice a little more fuel smoothness and power.
I have a 2008 Aurion Sportivo SX6. 250,000kms. I love it, but can’t get my husband out of the driver’s seat. 😂 It goes like a shower of shit, and gives the best fun on windy country roads. He does 100km/day commute, gets the mileage down to 7.5ltrs/100.
Despite an addiction to Alfas over the last 15 years (both as weekend hoots and daily drivers) I've always had a soft spot for Toyotas - my first car was my mum's '73 Corolla 1.3L, bought off her for $50. And I really like the styling of the current Camry - which (from uber trip experience) also feels as roomy as various Falcons and Fairmonts I owned in my pre-Alfa phase. To the point that I'm now thinking about retiring my current 22yo Alfa daily to weekend duties and getting something I can abuse without consequence for the daily commute. A hybrid Camry like this (or Corolla, or RAV4) would suit that job perfectly as well as be my first car purchase in decades that my missus would approve of...
I know plenty of car enthusiasts with an old Toyota. A Lancia collector with an old Torago. A BMW motorbike restorer with a 100 series Landy. Somedays you just need a car that can be reliable for picking up parts. I have an old VW camper and Volvo wagon with a Corolla for backup.
yep, totally agree. While my own cars are both Alfas (the other one is 43yo...) my wife has something much more sensible (2019 Forester) that I can call on if necessary.
@@Ford_TImelord I was chatting with a guy who sold his McLaren 720S and bought a Camry instead. His reasoning? He can park it anywhere and not worry about it, kerbing the wheel doesn't cause a heart attack, it won't bottom out over a driveway, it's super reliable, parts are easy to get, it's way cheaper to run, etc etc.
Have a 2010 model, 170,000k, 2.5 litre petrol automatic. Only had tyres, brake pads (rotors are good) and battery replaced. Full service history and last year needed front wheel bearings. Everything works, interior looks brand new (mid spec with velour interior) but a bit plasticy. Loads of room, comfortable, and reliable (only had a blown headight, flat battery and a couple of flat tyres. Does about 7l /100 k on a trip, not so good around town in traffic, will do about 12 l/100k. Tyres make a big difference, get good performance tyres, rides much better. Dont agree with bigger wheels and lower body, very rough ride and harder to get in and out of. Hatch back style like Mazda 6 would be the best. Agree with styling comment, the models after the 2006-2010 version looked terrible in the front.
We have an office Camry that gets abused big time. It has done nearly 300,000Km in 6 years and is still going strong. It's a base model 2.5L with shabby cloth interior.
I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker. I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team. Mazda6, Mazda CX-5 with 2.5L non-turbo, Honda Accord 2.0L Turbo or one with a V6, Lexus ES-350, Toyota RAV4 non-hybrid. Smaller cars 11th Gen. Honda Civic Touring 1.5L, and the Mazda3 which is claustrophobic. (feels small and visually harder to look out the windows.)
Love your videos.. ReDriven is one of my favorite UA-cam channels these days. Thanks for all your hard work, guys.. One note: I miss the percussion instruments playing between takes, as well as the price comparison between AU, UK & USA.
Earlier this year, I drove a brand new Camry for 2 weeks over 2,000 km. The 4 things I didn't like were: 1) With gentle driving, I got 4.8 L/100km, and given it's 95 RON, I hoped for better. 2) It's a feels a bit bulky, and the new one is even bigger. 3) The grey interior is depressing - are they trying to be as ugly as possible? 4) No lumbar support became a real problem. NB: The new model gets 4.6 I heard, and the Ascent Sport might fix points 3 and 4 - I haven't checked.
Great review - I spotted a very late model Camry the other day other day and didn’t know what it was a Camry. It looked sweet so went over to check it out and was taken aback that it was a Camry 👍🏻
What to buy instead? The obvious choice is the Lexus ES300H. The upper end late model SLs are so close in price to the ES you may as well bite the bullet. There are plenty of 2018-2022 ES models for sale in the sub $60,000 range with low Ks .
I was looking at a Camry Hybrid Ascent Sport 3 years ago..I ended up buying a 2012/13 Lexus IS 350 Sports Luxury instead...although I agree, I would look at the ES 300h or ES 350 too.
Had one of these for 3 years. My only complaint is rattles and squeeks from the dash. They started from driving the new car off the lot and have been supposedly fixed at every service (yeah, nah). Great and easy car to drive otherwise. Done a few 18 hour trips with no problems
Id love to see a liftback version opening the boot even more tbh. Its one thing I really like about Superb and Octavia. And, yeh, Wagon option would see this bite back at the SUV market, maybe thats why they dont 😅
That little storage cubby that you hit with your knee: I've got one in my 2008 Fiesta and it only stays closed (sometimes) with a big blob of Blu-Tack. Just pretend it isn't there.
Hi! I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker. I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team.
I have 2010 Camry Hybrid that still runs very good. Only had front left wheel bearing replaced, waterpump leak 2 yrs ago. Lastvyear I changed the battery (this not the hybrid battery, cost a bit more than normal battery. That battery last 13 years) and strange noise from shocks or lower arm bushing (tech said nothing wrong with them, which I changed it anyway but the noise still there although less noise). Recently it had Aircon problem the left side is hotter than the right side. During cool day its barely noticeable. I may wanna sell it to buy 2021 or newer Camry Hybrid... but I still love that car apart from the aircon problem 😅
If i was to buy something in the economy car category, i would probably go with the honda accord. You dont see much of them, but they are equally reliable and look better imo
Agreed, I had an eigth gen Accord V6 for many years, it's like a Camry but nicer looking and better finished inside and out, BUT there is no hybrid (well affordable hybrid at least).
One thing that would be great to test on ReDriven is the rear window test; does it go all the way down? Mat Watson checks that on Carwow and it’s really helpful for those of us who hate leaning their elbows on a thin piece of glass, or for those of us who have dogs.
The V6 was available on this generation in North America till 2024 when the generation ended. Also in North America and the Middle East, the 2.5 L 4 pot is the most common powertrain
Because when you were a part of the EU , there were tariffs on imported cars, coupled with your high petrol prices ( and the fact that modern Camry’s never came out in Diesel), anyone that could afford a petrol vehicle could afford anything over 2.0L , as you end up spending a large chunk of you pay packet on fuel- for the average worker, that is.
@@paulsz6194True, which is why Toyota should give 'em a punt now - the hybrids anyway. The UK and Europe's love affair with diesels has ended in acrimony: diesel drivers were the saviours of the planet in the late 90s - now they're viewed as Satan's spawn. Hilarious about turn 😂. It's all about petrol hybrids now - selling like hot cakes while BEVs gather dust at the dealerships...
Don't think it'll happen now as sales of 'normal' cars are down and falling here like most other places. Everyone and their dog seems to want an SUV nowadays 🙄
I have a 2017 base spec which I got brand new for $26k! Great car. Last year I went to buy a Lexus to replace it. I saw the NX, which drove absolutely shit! Then I saw the ES which is a nice car but the leather makes the car look cheap. I got back into my Camry and thought: this car is paid off, it runs like new (if you have one, you’ll know what I mean), it’s comfortable and has more space than anything else - even big SUVs. I’ve still got it. Been looking for a new car because I want one but everytime I go for a test drive for anything that makes go: ooo la la. I walk away liking the Camry more. I think I might get the new 2025 one unless they want ridiculous money.
Honestly, you can't kill these... I remember having one as a company car in my mid 20s and my god, i tried to kill it 😂. They are on the other hand, the most boring, bland and down right depressing cars to own 😂, i know...a bit brutal, but they are just so many shades of"beige".
YAY!!! Thanks you guys have finally reviewed my car (though i drive a 2018 SX V6 as my budget couldn't stretch enough to buy the SL V6). And i too have accidentally broken the coin tray thing next to the steering wheel (funniest moment). Yes it is boring and everything but as Adam said the power of the V6 is actually pretty quick which is quite satisfying
This video reinforces the general reputation of American made (or assembled) cars, which is... not good compared to the others 😂 The problem with Camry is that it's bloody expensive and you have better options in that price point, not to mention insurance costs and general neglect (which is all too common with Toyotas). Like seriously, the prices on these (and the Corolla, Yaris and their SUV variants) is ridiculous, even as new they are overpriced. Rav4 as new is around 54K usd for the base model, a new Skoda Kodiak is 36K and Mazda Cx5 is 47K, same price as the Peugeot 3008... Just... why... Not to mention the ridiculous insurance requirements, they've started to require a GPS security system...
Used as a Police car in Queensland, They are driven hard, flogged and rammed by car thieves in pursuits, driven over kerbs . Sold 4 years later to an uber and cab drivers and driven to death.
Bloody awesome no fuss daily driver!!! Only issues I see with them is dents and scratches. Boring yes but comfy quiet reliable I really like camrys!!!!
They're a tool, and not a toy. Not a bad thing, I've owned 'toy' cars before, and by $deity they're fun, but most of the time you just need something you can rely on - that's the Camry's strong suit. I'm not a Camry owner btw - it's more than what I actually need. If I could get a manufacturer supported Kei car in Australia I'd be all over it.
They're superb except for the Toyota Tax when buying new or used. I refuse and will never give in to that. But there is a way..... you can just ask your local dealer if they have old unsold stock of the colour and trim you want. Usually they're good deals to be had. You get a brand new car but at a lower price. It being 2-3 years old wouldn't matter since it just has new car delivery mileage. Only downside with that I think might be insurance value, because it's "older" as said. But its still good way to buy one imo. Not just with Toyota, with any brand.
A Camry wagon would be a no-brainer for me. Instead I have to consider the aging Mazda 6, which is bizarrely shorter than the sedan, or maybe the Skoda Superb but then I have to contend with VW reliability and prices.
2023 Camry SX Hybrid, actually a cool looking car with black 19's, blacked out tint etc etc!! Very comfortable for a vehicle with sport tuned suspension which is not harsh at all but goes around corners & sticks at a lot higher thresholds than I'm game to push it!! 750/800 km to 46/48 litres of 98 octane! Great overtaking power from 100-120 km/h! Sound system overachieves if you actually plug Android Auto in with a lead! High beam could be better & probably the only gripe that I have! But for 45k drive away for a car with 7 years unlimited km warranty on the drivetrain & 10 year warranty on the battery that'll do hundreds of thousands of trouble free kilometres, im not complaining!
I have noticed recently that the alternative car to those recommended is almost always a Mazda. Luckily I have one. Unluckily, Re-driven doesn't like the one I have, a Mazda 2 turbo diesel. Luckily all of the things Re-driven doesnt like have not occurred and it runs like a Swiss clock and uses 1 sip of diesel per week or 71 mpg (4.0li/100km) on the motorway at 120kmph. As for an alternative for the Camry, I'd get the Mazda 3 sedan, not the Mazda 6.
@@andrewsmith918 The Camry 2.5 V6 is way bigger but not the 2.0. They are very similar. Dont confuse the Mazda 3 hatch with the sedan - different kettles of fish.
This is picky, but I had a hire one that had cruise control (CC) surge. With the CC at 100kph if the road had any incline, up or down, it would fluctuate between 97 and 104, it could find its sweet spot. Might be that it was a rental, but the only reason I noticed it stood out was because the rest of the ride was great. Except I'm a bit OCD and highway drive a bit so that'd drive me insane.
Most MODERN auto cars with cruise control will do this, and in fact some will in fact end up not being able to maintain the speed with the cruise control then disengaging. The reason is that the car will always try to drive in an "Economical" way (throttle input and gear choice), which works great most of the time. But when going up a hill you need to throw any notion of Economical driving out of the window. The best way to do this without having to disengage the Cruise control is to move the Auto Shifter to "S" and then back over once you get to the top of the hill. Going down hill the car is breaking between 1 and 3 different ways which are: 1) Normal friction brakes 2) Regenerative braking 3) By down shifting the auto And so it can be quite hard to keep it at exactly the desired speed without any variance, especially as the grade of the hill changes.
Second hand, these aren't such a simple choice. The car is fine, but previous owners don't maintain them. I was in the market for one and it's almost impossible to get one that isn't trashed.
Have a 2021 hybrid camry and love it, was in a camry hybrid Uber last month and the owner had 350000klm on the clock and was getting the front brakes replaced for the first time now thats something :)
Must have driven it really slow and downshifted with the transmission to slow the car down. Must have meant first time since he’s owned it, perhaps? I’m really doubtful a set of pads could last 350K klm, even with a lot of highway driving. The radiator would have died by 250K klm, with the end tanks starting to split…
The Toyota regenerative braking system means that the regular brakes don't get to do much unless you're getting on it. The electric motor (the larger MG1 I think) acting as a generator does most of the braking otherwise. That's why discs and pads last so long - the former likely to eventually succumb to rust rather than wear.
I brought the 2019 Hybrid SL brand new, it has 14100km on the clock and has never skiped a beat! I'm a v8 nut which I have as a weekend drive but travelling to and from work up the highway in the SL is comfortable quiet and excellent on fuel ⛽!
I'll buy one when I'm 65; 10 years to go. I am currently trying to come up with the car for me $30-$45k. Adam, you mentioned this in a past show. For some (me), my car will be a reflection of me, and I want it to be right. That doesn't mean a whole host of wanker grade styles, but it has to have that .... something.
First surprise.....Camry owners have an internet forum 😆. But seriously it's a tool and does it's job of providing comfortable reliable transport very well. For many people, THAT is all that's required.
My wife once told me many years ago that people who buy Camrys are boring 😅. She's not even remotely interested in cars either, which is quite funny. But a Camry is clearly a sound choice for those wanting reliable low maintenance vehicle.
I haven't watched the video yet, but the thumbnail says 'Camry, What goes wrong?' Answer? nothing, absolutely nothing, infact there's probably too much reliability ! LOL
Pity no station wagon available. Thanks Jim for explaining why the hybrid is so reliable. I thought it would have been more complex than non hybrid, but sounds like not so.
My nanna has one and the only thing that is wrong with it is the mint scented air freshener cardboard pine tree she has hanging from the mirror (love you grandma)
As the owner of a 2013 Toyota Aqua/PriusC - my next car will be a Camry Hybrid, purely because I want a quieter, nicer to drive car. The Aqua is awesome in it's own right - it's a point n squirt gokart around town, but outside of a CBD or suburbs, it's Glacial, loud, and uncomfortable after an hour into the roadtrip.
Bought my last car, a 2000 4 cylinder Camry wagon new and still drive it every day. The only problems I ever had was a water pump failure some 5 years ago, a couple of rack and CV boots, and the hood lining is just beginning to sag around the edges. It took me two easy days and $200 to replace the water pump, the timing belt, idlers and drive belts in parts; let's see you do that with a modern car. I service it and regularly, clean the throttle body, and it has served me well. There are no oil leaks, the engine doesn't burn oil, the engine compressions haven't changed over its lifetime, and it remains as quiet as the day it was first bought. And it still has its original exhaust system. It's a station wagon, it's got a mechanical handbrake, wind-up windows, and a minimal function ECU; the options that are no longer available and everything you need for long term inexpensive and reliable motoring (imagine having a computer to control your electric handbrake when a handbrake pawl works so well - you got to be dreaming). The only thing I would have preferred is a manual transmission; oh well, you can't have everything. And now these rubes want me to waste a fortune (more than I paid for my first house) on a new car? STFU!
Toyota -> as reliable as a FB Holden (1960) - except the Toyota engine last longer than the old 225 sideplate, and the Toyota body doesn't rust.
Had a 2010. Bought at 180,000kms sold at 256,000. Cost me $300 in repairs. Excellent cars. I don't get the 'boring' monicker, what car is exciting? A Lambo? A Bugatti? Reliability is always top of my list so Accords and Camrys have always been my go-to.
My mighty Falc was damaged by a numpty and I was given a Camry while it was repaired. I reckon these are the best buy on the road right now, I think Jim agrees.
I bought a new one at the end of 2018 (2.5-litre 4-cylinder ) - it's been the best car,, It's got over 110K on the clock and it's never had any issues
110k? probably wont have an issue until 500 or 600k km, alternator might go first
im glad you didnt say double ristretto this time.
I enjoy the pre-refresh 8th gen Camry because it doesn't have a dumb tablet screen popping out of the dash
I bought one of these white Hybrids in February 2024 with only 13,700kms and it is the most refined quietest car I've ever owned. It gets over 1,000kms per tank (tank size 46L) and it's EXTREMELY cheap to run. I totally recommend it. 👍
"It gets over 1,000kms per tank" ..and Ford were spruiking their guiness book of world records acheivement last week with a Mustang Mach-E EV crawling along to acheive a 900 km odd range! No wonder Toyota hybrids sell like hot cakes. For many people that's one fill up a MONTH.
@@KnightIndustries572 ...You're right! I fill up once a month. 👍 It's great. $94 on premium.
@@nickjohnstone9939 that’s amazing! no wonder Toyota can’t get enough of them. I was actually eyeing a Camry Ascent Sport hybrid for a while, then the crazy Covid prices came along. I actually bought a 2012 Lexus Is350 Sports Luxury. She’s no fuel miser, but I do work from home which makes it feasible.
My hybrid SL is the best sedan I've every owned.
And Japanese built too so I'm good for the next 30+ years!
These guys are the Stig of used car reviews.
What's it like to drive when it's brand new and lent to you for a glowing add? Just watch almost anyone elses reviews.
What's it actully like, and moreover, what's the likely ownership experience? Ask Re Driven!
Legend mate!
We should use this comment in our marketing material. Couldn’t have said it better ourselves
Know a guy with a 2018 hybrid taxi currently at 430,000. Zero problems so far.
In QLD in April I went in a 398k km and 600 k km Camry SL hybrid Taxi, both were remarkable smooth, quiet and refined. the 398k km car was simply increible inside and out.
At 400k the engine is just about run in for your average Camry.
Finally, I can weigh in! I bought a Camry V6, 5 speed manual 2002 model brand new, and drove it for 17 years. Zero problems. Lots of memories. That V6 was very smooth and quiet, and when idling, you could hardly hear it or know that it was running. I eventually added CarPlay to it via a Sony head unit, but finally decided it was time to move on to something more modern and up to date.
Also: James Camry! 😂
I own a Camry 2018 Ascent Sport (non hybrid) six speed 4 cyl.2.5 litre it’s amazing, refined and damn reliable. I service it every 7500 km’s or 6 months. Mine was made in Japan and I would highly recommend this car to anyone.
I'm sure the V6 overtakes like an absolute champ. This is coming from an Aurion driver.
I own this 8th gen v6 currently...before that an aurion sx6.My Aurion was definately quicker prob due to the 6spd box compared to the newer 8spd maybe?.Loved owning my Aurion 175k no issues...built like a tank too.
I've had my 2011 Aurion Touring for 12 years. Have only needed to replace the alternator and a leaking drive shaft boot. Was regularly getting 11.5l per 100klm mostly suburban driving though lately its crept up by a litre or so (not sure why). Currently at 150k klms. I will probably replace it in about 3 years and maybe go for a RAV4 hybrid. Will definitely miss the power and easy overtaking ability.
I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker.
I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team.
@@richscott2483 Xse would be my choice also but in New Zealand they stopped the v6 coming in in 2018 so I grabbed a low milage example when one came up for sale.Our model for Australia and nz has no sunroof or jbl audio.Oem audio was frankly very average so went to aftermarket setup...problem solved.Transmission for me seems to get a bit confused at times to what gear to select especially under acceleration.For the money they are hard to beat.
Gas milage...yes thirsty city driving but I'm wiling to sacrifice a little more fuel smoothness and power.
I have a 2008 Aurion Sportivo SX6. 250,000kms. I love it, but can’t get my husband out of the driver’s seat. 😂 It goes like a shower of shit, and gives the best fun on windy country roads. He does 100km/day commute, gets the mileage down to 7.5ltrs/100.
Despite an addiction to Alfas over the last 15 years (both as weekend hoots and daily drivers) I've always had a soft spot for Toyotas - my first car was my mum's '73 Corolla 1.3L, bought off her for $50. And I really like the styling of the current Camry - which (from uber trip experience) also feels as roomy as various Falcons and Fairmonts I owned in my pre-Alfa phase. To the point that I'm now thinking about retiring my current 22yo Alfa daily to weekend duties and getting something I can abuse without consequence for the daily commute.
A hybrid Camry like this (or Corolla, or RAV4) would suit that job perfectly as well as be my first car purchase in decades that my missus would approve of...
I know plenty of car enthusiasts with an old Toyota. A Lancia collector with an old Torago. A BMW motorbike restorer with a 100 series Landy. Somedays you just need a car that can be reliable for picking up parts. I have an old VW camper and Volvo wagon with a Corolla for backup.
yep, totally agree. While my own cars are both Alfas (the other one is 43yo...) my wife has something much more sensible (2019 Forester) that I can call on if necessary.
@@Ford_TImelord I was chatting with a guy who sold his McLaren 720S and bought a Camry instead. His reasoning? He can park it anywhere and not worry about it, kerbing the wheel doesn't cause a heart attack, it won't bottom out over a driveway, it's super reliable, parts are easy to get, it's way cheaper to run, etc etc.
Have a 2010 model, 170,000k, 2.5 litre petrol automatic. Only had tyres, brake pads (rotors are good) and battery replaced. Full service history and last year needed front wheel bearings. Everything works, interior looks brand new (mid spec with velour interior) but a bit plasticy. Loads of room, comfortable, and reliable (only had a blown headight, flat battery and a couple of flat tyres. Does about 7l /100 k on a trip, not so good around town in traffic, will do about 12 l/100k. Tyres make a big difference, get good performance tyres, rides much better. Dont agree with bigger wheels and lower body, very rough ride and harder to get in and out of. Hatch back style like Mazda 6 would be the best. Agree with styling comment, the models after the 2006-2010 version looked terrible in the front.
Your fuel economy sounds about right for almost any car of that weight
Brilliant show, thank you
Yes, I' dream of a Camry with 20" wheels, slammed & a Recaro bolted low on the floor.
It's a Camry boys.
Toyota needs to make a station-wagon version of the Camry.
Yep add RWD, manual and a supercharger.
Toyota corolla fielder
This is so true, need a Camry wagon.
@@maxmackinlay618 The TRD Aurion was a supercharged V6, wasn't it?
European spec Corolla Touring would do the same job but is not available in Oz - even as a grey import.
They're not that reliable. My Camry is barely 20 years old and already starting to give me trouble.
Twenty years, Twenty years !
It's a machine. What do you expect my friend.
I think it was sarcasm when he said 'not reliable' @@beaver2543
That's alright, some of us have 3 year old cars that are not reliable 🤣
@@beaver2543 they were being sarcastic mate
😂 Dude it's served you well already
We have an office Camry that gets abused big time. It has done nearly 300,000Km in 6 years and is still going strong. It's a base model 2.5L with shabby cloth interior.
Bro I'm legit in the market looking for one right now lol. Vid count have come at a better time
I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker.
I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team.
Mazda6, Mazda CX-5 with 2.5L non-turbo, Honda Accord 2.0L Turbo or one with a V6, Lexus ES-350, Toyota RAV4 non-hybrid. Smaller cars 11th Gen. Honda Civic Touring 1.5L, and the Mazda3 which is claustrophobic. (feels small and visually harder to look out the windows.)
The safety features list video edit is genious.
Love your videos.. ReDriven is one of my favorite UA-cam channels these days. Thanks for all your hard work, guys..
One note: I miss the percussion instruments playing between takes, as well as the price comparison between AU, UK & USA.
Great video👍
Seriously, there is a Camry owners group? I bet their annual dinner is great night out.
Maybe but at least they get to dinner reliably on time and can afford to splurge on some of lifes other pleasures.
@@Ford_TImelordyou god damn legend 😂😂😂
2 for 1 parmies at the local pub on a Tuesday night 😂
Camry is getting better and better, while others becoming a mobile phone commodity. Can’t wait the depreciated value of EV.
They all rock up and get there on time, no break downs like the Alfa owners group 😂
Earlier this year, I drove a brand new Camry for 2 weeks over 2,000 km. The 4 things I didn't like were:
1) With gentle driving, I got 4.8 L/100km, and given it's 95 RON, I hoped for better.
2) It's a feels a bit bulky, and the new one is even bigger.
3) The grey interior is depressing - are they trying to be as ugly as possible?
4) No lumbar support became a real problem.
NB: The new model gets 4.6 I heard, and the Ascent Sport might fix points 3 and 4 - I haven't checked.
Great review - I spotted a very late model Camry the other day other day and didn’t know what it was a Camry. It looked sweet so went over to check it out and was taken aback that it was a Camry 👍🏻
What to buy instead? The obvious choice is the Lexus ES300H. The upper end late model SLs are so close in price to the ES you may as well bite the bullet. There are plenty of 2018-2022 ES models for sale in the sub $60,000 range with low Ks .
I was looking at a Camry Hybrid Ascent Sport 3 years ago..I ended up buying a 2012/13 Lexus IS 350 Sports Luxury instead...although I agree, I would look at the ES 300h or ES 350 too.
Nicely done mate!!!!
That was funny! You said James Camry instead of James Cameron!
Had one of these for 3 years. My only complaint is rattles and squeeks from the dash. They started from driving the new car off the lot and have been supposedly fixed at every service (yeah, nah). Great and easy car to drive otherwise. Done a few 18 hour trips with no problems
Id love to see a liftback version opening the boot even more tbh. Its one thing I really like about Superb and Octavia. And, yeh, Wagon option would see this bite back at the SUV market, maybe thats why they dont 😅
That little storage cubby that you hit with your knee: I've got one in my 2008 Fiesta and it only stays closed (sometimes) with a big blob of Blu-Tack. Just pretend it isn't there.
Hi! I own a 2023 Camry XSE V6 (3.5L 2GR-FKS) fully loaded MSRP $41,305 USD. The extra HP "horse power" or acceleration is great and helps while driving on the Highway. Sadly, fuel efficiency or Miles Per Gallon not fantastic. I am averaging 17 MPG. 22 City/ 26 Average/ 32 Highway. I drive roughly 70 percent City and that is where it hurts my gas mileage. Toyota uses ideal simulated conditions in the factory or Research and Development "R&D" to calculate MPG. Real life driving the results are much different than given on the Window Sticker.
I have zero issues, other than poor fuel economy, with my Camry as owned it for 19 months. Oh! I very much dislike Hybrids and EV's so I will never own one of them. I am strictly for "ICE" Internal Combustion Engines or all naturally aspirated gasoline engines. The cost of Automotive Insurance in the USA is higher for Hybrids and EVs due to expensive repair costs and possibly more prone to hazards such as catching on fire or the replacement cost of Electric Vehicle battery packs. My Camry panoramic roof has not leaked or caused any problems. The door seal gaskets (thin rubber) are cheap and bit flimsy because of the little hook type latching to put on. No car is perfect, but it can be close to perfect if you have the vehicle constructed by hand or assembled by a skillful devoted team.
The new Camry with its TNGA platform drives really really well.
I have 2010 Camry Hybrid that still runs very good. Only had front left wheel bearing replaced, waterpump leak 2 yrs ago. Lastvyear I changed the battery (this not the hybrid battery, cost a bit more than normal battery. That battery last 13 years) and strange noise from shocks or lower arm bushing (tech said nothing wrong with them, which I changed it anyway but the noise still there although less noise).
Recently it had Aircon problem the left side is hotter than the right side. During cool day its barely noticeable.
I may wanna sell it to buy 2021 or newer Camry Hybrid... but I still love that car apart from the aircon problem 😅
If i was to buy something in the economy car category, i would probably go with the honda accord. You dont see much of them, but they are equally reliable and look better imo
Agreed, I had an eigth gen Accord V6 for many years, it's like a Camry but nicer looking and better finished inside and out, BUT there is no hybrid (well affordable hybrid at least).
One thing that would be great to test on ReDriven is the rear window test; does it go all the way down? Mat Watson checks that on Carwow and it’s really helpful for those of us who hate leaning their elbows on a thin piece of glass, or for those of us who have dogs.
The V6 was available on this generation in North America till 2024 when the generation ended. Also in North America and the Middle East, the 2.5 L 4 pot is the most common powertrain
Corolla estate. SW. here in UK ever Taxi and Uber. 90%. Find it batshit we literally have never bought the Camry in UK. Americas most popular car
Because when you were a part of the EU , there were tariffs on imported cars, coupled with your high petrol prices ( and the fact that modern Camry’s never came out in Diesel), anyone that could afford a petrol vehicle could afford anything over 2.0L , as you end up spending a large chunk of you pay packet on fuel- for the average worker, that is.
@@paulsz6194True, which is why Toyota should give 'em a punt now - the hybrids anyway. The UK and Europe's love affair with diesels has ended in acrimony: diesel drivers were the saviours of the planet in the late 90s - now they're viewed as Satan's spawn. Hilarious about turn 😂. It's all about petrol hybrids now - selling like hot cakes while BEVs gather dust at the dealerships...
Don't think it'll happen now as sales of 'normal' cars are down and falling here like most other places. Everyone and their dog seems to want an SUV nowadays 🙄
The hybrid Toyota Camry is the best passenger car ever made.
If only the local Toyota Parts center were as reliable as the Camry, I'd find no issues with owning one.
None of us who own one would know…they ain’t on my contacts list and I’ve don’t 451008 km. True story.
I have a 2017 base spec which I got brand new for $26k! Great car. Last year I went to buy a Lexus to replace it. I saw the NX, which drove absolutely shit! Then I saw the ES which is a nice car but the leather makes the car look cheap. I got back into my Camry and thought: this car is paid off, it runs like new (if you have one, you’ll know what I mean), it’s comfortable and has more space than anything else - even big SUVs. I’ve still got it. Been looking for a new car because I want one but everytime I go for a test drive for anything that makes go: ooo la la. I walk away liking the Camry more. I think I might get the new 2025 one unless they want ridiculous money.
Honestly, you can't kill these... I remember having one as a company car in my mid 20s and my god, i tried to kill it 😂.
They are on the other hand, the most boring, bland and down right depressing cars to own 😂, i know...a bit brutal, but they are just so many shades of"beige".
Same, I had 5 different camry wagons as sales rep cars, tried to wreck them but but gave up😂😂😂
To have something dead reliable and never breaks is true quality and luxury.
Never be held hostage / be a slave to your car.
When this model first came out a few years back, I was quoted around $44k drive away for SL hybrid. $60k now? Damn! It is so quiet and refined though.
Did he just use the words “CVT” and “most reliable ever” in the same sentence? I’m genuinely impressed
This is eCVT which is completely different than those trash CVT that other manufacturers (Nissan) used.
YAY!!! Thanks you guys have finally reviewed my car (though i drive a 2018 SX V6 as my budget couldn't stretch enough to buy the SL V6). And i too have accidentally broken the coin tray thing next to the steering wheel (funniest moment).
Yes it is boring and everything but as Adam said the power of the V6 is actually pretty quick which is quite satisfying
The coin tray had to be weak so as to not sever the leg in a heavy impact?
This video reinforces the general reputation of American made (or assembled) cars, which is... not good compared to the others 😂
The problem with Camry is that it's bloody expensive and you have better options in that price point, not to mention insurance costs and general neglect (which is all too common with Toyotas).
Like seriously, the prices on these (and the Corolla, Yaris and their SUV variants) is ridiculous, even as new they are overpriced.
Rav4 as new is around 54K usd for the base model, a new Skoda Kodiak is 36K and Mazda Cx5 is 47K, same price as the Peugeot 3008...
Just... why...
Not to mention the ridiculous insurance requirements, they've started to require a GPS security system...
please feature a lexus es300h♥ and a volvo s90 💛review a humble request
Bring back the camry wagon!!!
I saw one on marketplace place with 670000kms still running and unlike diesel they are petrol
Used as a Police car in Queensland, They are driven hard, flogged and rammed by car thieves in pursuits, driven over kerbs . Sold 4 years later to an uber and cab drivers and driven to death.
I own one and I feel great. Thank you.
Bloody awesome no fuss daily driver!!! Only issues I see with them is dents and scratches. Boring yes but comfy quiet reliable I really like camrys!!!!
They're a tool, and not a toy. Not a bad thing, I've owned 'toy' cars before, and by $deity they're fun, but most of the time you just need something you can rely on - that's the Camry's strong suit.
I'm not a Camry owner btw - it's more than what I actually need. If I could get a manufacturer supported Kei car in Australia I'd be all over it.
They're superb except for the Toyota Tax when buying new or used.
I refuse and will never give in to that.
But there is a way..... you can just ask your local dealer if they have old unsold stock of the colour and trim you want. Usually they're good deals to be had. You get a brand new car but at a lower price. It being 2-3 years old wouldn't matter since it just has new car delivery mileage.
Only downside with that I think might be insurance value, because it's "older" as said. But its still good way to buy one imo.
Not just with Toyota, with any brand.
Shout out to Sam behind the scenes.
A Camry wagon would be a no-brainer for me. Instead I have to consider the aging Mazda 6, which is bizarrely shorter than the sedan, or maybe the Skoda Superb but then I have to contend with VW reliability and prices.
The Mazda 6 and Camry are the GOATS
Adam, now that Toyota has made the announcement that they are coming to Supercars with the Supra, I think you need to review one!
2023 Camry SX Hybrid, actually a cool looking car with black 19's, blacked out tint etc etc!! Very comfortable for a vehicle with sport tuned suspension which is not harsh at all but goes around corners & sticks at a lot higher thresholds than I'm game to push it!!
750/800 km to 46/48 litres of 98 octane! Great overtaking power from 100-120 km/h! Sound system overachieves if you actually plug Android Auto in with a lead!
High beam could be better & probably the only gripe that I have! But for 45k drive away for a car with 7 years unlimited km warranty on the drivetrain & 10 year warranty on the battery that'll do hundreds of thousands of trouble free kilometres, im not complaining!
Id guess none goes wrong, but let me finish watching 😊
I have noticed recently that the alternative car to those recommended is almost always a Mazda. Luckily I have one. Unluckily, Re-driven doesn't like the one I have, a Mazda 2 turbo diesel. Luckily all of the things Re-driven doesnt like have not occurred and it runs like a Swiss clock and uses 1 sip of diesel per week or 71 mpg (4.0li/100km) on the motorway at 120kmph.
As for an alternative for the Camry, I'd get the Mazda 3 sedan, not the Mazda 6.
Camry is way bigger. Mazda 3 reputedly is a good car but if you need much passenger space it’s a whole size smaller.
@@andrewsmith918 The Camry 2.5 V6 is way bigger but not the 2.0. They are very similar. Dont confuse the Mazda 3 hatch with the sedan - different kettles of fish.
This is picky, but I had a hire one that had cruise control (CC) surge. With the CC at 100kph if the road had any incline, up or down, it would fluctuate between 97 and 104, it could find its sweet spot.
Might be that it was a rental, but the only reason I noticed it stood out was because the rest of the ride was great. Except I'm a bit OCD and highway drive a bit so that'd drive me insane.
Most MODERN auto cars with cruise control will do this, and in fact some will in fact end up not being able to maintain the speed with the cruise control then disengaging.
The reason is that the car will always try to drive in an "Economical" way (throttle input and gear choice), which works great most of the time.
But when going up a hill you need to throw any notion of Economical driving out of the window.
The best way to do this without having to disengage the Cruise control is to move the Auto Shifter to "S" and then back over once you get to the top of the hill.
Going down hill the car is breaking between 1 and 3 different ways which are:
1) Normal friction brakes
2) Regenerative braking
3) By down shifting the auto
And so it can be quite hard to keep it at exactly the desired speed without any variance, especially as the grade of the hill changes.
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Too kind!
@@ReDriven I'm too right
Second hand, these aren't such a simple choice. The car is fine, but previous owners don't maintain them. I was in the market for one and it's almost impossible to get one that isn't trashed.
The crash test edging was just mean.
Great video, though!
A friend has a 2012 hybrid with 320,000 km never had any problems
I wish you would bring back the guitar solo in-between timestamps
Have a 2021 hybrid camry and love it, was in a camry hybrid Uber last month and the owner had 350000klm on the clock and was getting the front brakes replaced for the first time now thats something :)
Must have driven it really slow and downshifted with the transmission to slow the car down. Must have meant first time since he’s owned it, perhaps? I’m really doubtful a set of pads could last 350K klm, even with a lot of highway driving. The radiator would have died by 250K klm, with the end tanks starting to split…
The Toyota regenerative braking system means that the regular brakes don't get to do much unless you're getting on it. The electric motor (the larger MG1 I think) acting as a generator does most of the braking otherwise. That's why discs and pads last so long - the former likely to eventually succumb to rust rather than wear.
Is 'owner dies from boredom ' part of the mechanical downsides?
Hi redriven please do Suzuki alto Manual and Suzuki ignis second gen 🙏
Nothing like a little validation for the decisions we make.
The lack of practicality for the hybrid version (only available version in Europe ) stops me to buy this excellent car.
How you were able to find 20 minutes of content for this topic is beyond me
A Camry Wagon could take over the world.
Still devo they got rid of the Camry wagons. My first car was a ‘96 Camry wagon and it ran forever and took whole bands on the road.
Please review the Silvia next .
My 10 Camry has 6.3Million miles.
Oil changes/disc pads, that’s it!
Still looks showroom!
Please review the Mazda 2 skyactiv
I brought the 2019 Hybrid SL brand new, it has 14100km on the clock and has never skiped a beat! I'm a v8 nut which I have as a weekend drive but travelling to and from work up the highway in the SL is comfortable quiet and excellent on fuel ⛽!
I wish i could have one of these, but my family needs an estate so ill have to stick with my Volvo for now.
Purge valve is an issue when you leave the fuel cap open in the Hybrids
they should have done an estate model
I'll buy one when I'm 65; 10 years to go. I am currently trying to come up with the car for me $30-$45k. Adam, you mentioned this in a past show. For some (me), my car will be a reflection of me, and I want it to be right. That doesn't mean a whole host of wanker grade styles, but it has to have that .... something.
First surprise.....Camry owners have an internet forum 😆.
But seriously it's a tool and does it's job of providing comfortable reliable transport very well. For many people, THAT is all that's required.
Try a toyota crown 3.5 hybrid.2017 onwards quick economical not really boring 😊
Can you please do a video on Honda Accord Euro CU2 !!?
"If everybody drove these things, I'd be out of a job."
I felt that.
Jim's lives matter.
LOL He does have a point. This is my third Camry model and fifth Toyota overall. All have been incredibly reliable.
My wife once told me many years ago that people who buy Camrys are boring 😅. She's not even remotely interested in cars either, which is quite funny. But a Camry is clearly a sound choice for those wanting reliable low maintenance vehicle.
I haven't watched the video yet, but the thumbnail says 'Camry, What goes wrong?' Answer? nothing, absolutely nothing, infact there's probably too much reliability ! LOL
Pity no station wagon available. Thanks Jim for explaining why the hybrid is so reliable. I thought it would have been more complex than non hybrid, but sounds like not so.
My nanna has one and the only thing that is wrong with it is the mint scented air freshener cardboard pine tree she has hanging from the mirror (love you grandma)
Does she buy Barley Sugars for the car?
@@steveallen1340 She's into the toffee lollies that break your teeth
I am unreasonably early for a Canadian viewer
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Howdy, hope all is well....here for the algorithm
That's interesting the Hybrid more reliable than the normal petrol one as for buying one why not
i was just thinking about this car today
As the owner of a 2013 Toyota Aqua/PriusC - my next car will be a Camry Hybrid, purely because I want a quieter, nicer to drive car. The Aqua is awesome in it's own right - it's a point n squirt gokart around town, but outside of a CBD or suburbs, it's Glacial, loud, and uncomfortable after an hour into the roadtrip.
Why is there a transmission tunnel in a front wheel drive car?
Exhaust tunnel really