Final Fantasy XV Daemon QUEEN Luna!? | FF15 Dawn Of The Future Ending

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • Translation by AutumsTwilight has surfaced of the new novel ending for Final Fantasy XV revealed in the Dawn Of The Future entry. This cancelled FF15 DLC covers everything from the end of Ardyn’s story arch, confirmation of Bahamut villain theory vids, Aranea Highwind boss fight badassery, Shiva and Ifrit love story, a Noctis X Luna reunion, Somnus / Ardyn fleshout, a badass summons showdown and an ending that could have blasted Final Fantasy 15 to masterpiece status IMO. I enjoyed the episode Prompto, Ignis, Gladiolus and especially Ardyn DLC’s but FFXV needed a profound ending that flowed out some of the DEEPS I am reading in this Dawn Of The Future. Big spoilers for ost soundtrack, story and ending of Final Fantasy 15... obvs :D
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 605

  • @nghtspawn651
    @nghtspawn651 5 років тому +310

    I may be Excited for 7 remake, but I will never forgive them for 15.

    • @LitLazarus
      @LitLazarus 5 років тому +9

      i.e. the original concept for the VersusXIII series.
      Planed was a 3-part series

    • @andrewho9864
      @andrewho9864 5 років тому +6

      Ill forgive them for ff15 if ff7 is complete and as good or better than the original

    • @kirara2516
      @kirara2516 5 років тому +8

      Except for the part where they replaced all the English VA's without even telling them. All of them wanted to return, and many recorded their lines. Square replaced them right out the bat and they found out during E3 when the rest of us saw it. They saw their respective characters, but did not hear their own voice.

    • @andrewho9864
      @andrewho9864 5 років тому +11

      @@kirara2516 thats sad for them. That was a cruel move if true. Id be mad.

    • @kirara2516
      @kirara2516 5 років тому +2

      @@andrewho9864 many of them are, but since they're under contract they cant say much. It has been confirmed. And there's a petition to get a DLC for the original English cast.
      Cody does well as a new Cloud, and thanked fans and Steve, but its not as good when Steve has perfected it since 2002.
      The new voice of Sephiroth, Tyler, does not have that chill factor that George had. Tyler also didn't thank fans or George at all. He's not even promoting that he's Sephiroth.
      Also Quinton Flynn has sighned the petitoon as well. (Reno's VA) on Twitter there's a group called "Operation Reunion."

  • @jkbobful
    @jkbobful 5 років тому +353

    FFXV pushed all the dumbest BS but when we get something actually cool nah cancelled that

    • @prettypinkmma7770
      @prettypinkmma7770 5 років тому +23

      I really want to know wtf was happening at SE that caused that abortion of a release. The Nove Cyystallis project was ambitious but 13-2 and LR weren't terrible. Did they undersell???

    • @akiraguy
      @akiraguy 5 років тому +1

      more likely that they got that sweet marvel money and don't want to spend more on less well known products.

    • @juanmanuelesis9797
      @juanmanuelesis9797 5 років тому +3

      PrettyPink MMA well, take into the really bad image that FFXIII overall have. Then XIII-2 (if my memory is good) sold 3.2 millions and FFXIII LR 1.6 million

    • @jkbobful
      @jkbobful 5 років тому +6

      @@prettypinkmma7770 13-2 sold 3.6 million copies lifetime and Lighting Returns sold 1.2 million according to the FF wiki

    • @manofculture961
      @manofculture961 5 років тому +2

      jkbobful to be fair everyone wanted them to cancel it because they wanted it to “end”. Welp rip

  • @reflion3688
    @reflion3688 5 років тому +176

    can we petition square to make this dlc anyway it worked for the sonic movie maybe.

    • @caliginousmoira8565
      @caliginousmoira8565 5 років тому

      what happened with the sonic movie?

    • @disneyboy3030
      @disneyboy3030 5 років тому +10

      Let's do it. And go public with it. Starting here with this website and a letter that is currently a work in progress.
      www.change.org/p/final-fantasy-fans-first-timers-get-square-enix-business-division-2-to-release-ebony-level-editor-for-ffxv-windows-edition
      Dear Square Enix,
      My name is Disney Boy. I have sent you a few letters in the past by my real name. I was wondering if you could restart the development on the last three DLC for Final Fantasy XV. You see, fans were very disappointed and angry when you canceled the DLC. They actually want to see the ending Tabata so desperately wanted you to complete and since to book came out it was so awsome and now they want it more than ever and I have confidence that you can do it. I don’t want you to give up on it and I feel like you can continue with these ideas:
      1. Maybe the old director, Mr. Tabata, could be brought on as a consultant
      2. Possibly you could get Tetsuya Nomura who started the main game back when it was Final Fantasy Versus XIII. It was be a full circle idea because he started the game and could end the saga by finishing the work Tabata left behind but keep it the same as you already have
      3. I would also like for you to revive the Mod Organizer and as well as the Ebony Level Editor and also your Consumer Trust as clearly you lost it as shown by a mod. There's even a petition on Change.Org to finish it so I think you might wanna get to it as soon as possible
      4. I would love it if you would dedicate the game to Tabata
      5. You already have a script for it in the form of a book so I think you can adapt it into the DLC fans always wanted.
      6. Go on Change.Org yourself and start a petition to see if fans still want the DLC. I know That you felt you couldn't do it without him but thanks yo the book I believe you can. I have faith in you and I don't even believe in giving up. I even want you to announce the petition live and go all public in it so that it can come to fruition.
      7. Bring the team back together as I feel that they can carry on without him and that is what he would have wanted. I don't know why he left but I believe that you can do that to and make a petition for the team to come back together as well.

    • @kizugawa07
      @kizugawa07 5 років тому +1

      Can we do this?

    • @disneyboy3030
      @disneyboy3030 5 років тому +2

      @@kizugawa07 we must try.

    • @kizugawa07
      @kizugawa07 5 років тому +2

      @@disneyboy3030 then we will

  • @mattblack5352
    @mattblack5352 5 років тому +147

    FFXV should have been a multi-part game they could of fleshed out the story so much better

    • @AnimeWars2002
      @AnimeWars2002 5 років тому +18

      I don't it needed to be multipart but it should never have approached as a road trip from the perspective of Noctis.
      Simply because all the good juicy bits are happening with other characters when they aren't in Noctis field of view.
      The approach of the story comes off as well a spin off DLC.

    • @MrInuhanyou123
      @MrInuhanyou123 5 років тому +8

      NOmura wanted the game to be that with Versus....that's why FF7R is like that

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      You're describing the lightning saga basically.

    • @xord-vii3439
      @xord-vii3439 5 років тому +2

      it was when nomura was a director aka A World of the VERSES Epic .. before the stupid Hajime Tabata take over and ruin everything about Versus .. later he realised that there is a lot of fans really care about Versus

    • @DistantHana
      @DistantHana 5 років тому +9

      @Xord-VII erm Tabata didn’t ruin anything. Why do you Versus fans never do your research or are you too wrapped up in the idea to understand that Versus was just a concept that kept getting redone and where the ideas were constantly changing every three months with barely any solid groundwork. Versus this and Versus that, maybe if you took the time to actually research the idea you claim to love so much you wouldn’t look so foolish right now. Honestly, I’m feeling second hand embarrassment FOR YOU, I’d delete your comment if I were you.

  • @renehoyvik
    @renehoyvik 5 років тому +46

    If the production of 15 hadnt been so fucked, we might have had a Final Fantasy, with all this planned content and would have had one of the best FF's of all time.

    • @Lennis01
      @Lennis01 5 років тому +2

      A total lack of planning and vision by the higher-ups at Square-Enix. Always chasing the latest in technical innovations while failing to keep their eyes on the ball. It was a wonder that XV got made at all.

    • @r.daneel.90
      @r.daneel.90 4 роки тому

      Damn Nomura. If only Square would have kicked him out of the project a 1 or 2 years earlier.

    • @UltimateLegoFan324
      @UltimateLegoFan324 3 роки тому

      @@r.daneel.90 facts. He seriously is stuck in the year 2004 with his games. Does he not realize he can make them fun right?

  • @krolliox5346
    @krolliox5346 5 років тому +74

    I'm seriously pissed and a little emotional as well, everything from this book is the perfect ending to FFXV, I was ok with was giving with the original ending but after hearing all of how it could've played out I now do think SE did screw up FFXV.

  • @AnimeWars2002
    @AnimeWars2002 5 років тому +66

    Maybe Square should just write the books first and then make the game?
    Well if FF7 can get a remake, maybe in a decade they'll remake 15.

    • @kelvinkmdiaz1194
      @kelvinkmdiaz1194 5 років тому +2

      Remake of 8 . Awesome ps games

    • @Christine-wm4uf
      @Christine-wm4uf 5 років тому +2

      That need to remake this game I really want to see something like this

    • @devjoshi12
      @devjoshi12 4 роки тому

      @Aizette I heard rumours of them remaking it

    • @devjoshi12
      @devjoshi12 4 роки тому

      @Aizette this is the article I came across, although I'm not 100% sure if it's true:
      www.techradar.com/news/final-fantasy-8-remastered-release-date-news-and-rumors

  • @FURognar
    @FURognar 5 років тому +98

    That would have made XV the most epic FF game of all time

    • @Killer_Kris7
      @Killer_Kris7 5 років тому +4

      Not really

    • @akiinmoonlight79
      @akiinmoonlight79 5 років тому +1

      or atleast one of tue best games in this Generation ×_×

    • @hellish958
      @hellish958 5 років тому +10

      @@Killer_Kris7 brah get ur ff7 fanboying outta here. I see u in every single comment section with the hate comments. If u don't like something.. keep it with urself.

    • @Killer_Kris7
      @Killer_Kris7 5 років тому +2

      @@hellish958 it's just my opinion

    • @Killer_Kris7
      @Killer_Kris7 5 років тому +1

      @UC65aHSabgP-_vRDfCY4zLOg I just wish they would have taken their time instead of having to fix the game with dlcs

  • @Uri_Mercury
    @Uri_Mercury 5 років тому +99

    I feel so cheated man......
    Tbh, I'd have sacrificed Episode Prompto, Ignis, and Gladio if it meant having this as DLC instead. So cheated

  • @kwon7378
    @kwon7378 5 років тому +24

    Damn..... All I can say is FFXV Dawn of the future DLC petition anyone?

  • @jaydenweeden99
    @jaydenweeden99 5 років тому +80

    I’m sad cause I wanted this in the game. It sounds good and epic.

    • @unnamedlegeon
      @unnamedlegeon 4 роки тому

      Actually it is a game, but for japanese only 😑.

    • @shigurea.8266
      @shigurea.8266 4 роки тому

      @@unnamedlegeon WOAH WHEN

  • @tjreed7797
    @tjreed7797 5 років тому +34

    ff15... could've been a series to be remembered by all if it done things differently. If been able to put all the dlc in the main game but make it a two part (with luna's death being the end of part 1 but we get all of season's one aside from prompto's in it. Then in part 2, we could've continued on with Noctis's journey up, along with episode prompto until he goes to sleep where we'll go into ardyn's and aranea's episodes, then go through the normal ending only for it to be a dream of what to come and then get into dawn of the future as the true ending.

  • @Catknight4444
    @Catknight4444 5 років тому +27

    Someone start a petition for this ending. I need this DLC in my life.

  • @tjreed7797
    @tjreed7797 5 років тому +50

    I always loved aranea. Wished she got more screen time.

  • @cc_sleepless
    @cc_sleepless 5 років тому +14

    Maybe that's why Regis said in the Omen trailer "May the Gods forgive me" for following Bahamut's orders and making Noctis fulfill his role of "True King", the one Bahamut set on him. Technically being the enemy in front of the other Gods.

  • @Xikutoluv09X
    @Xikutoluv09X 5 років тому +50

    Just hearing all of this I can imagine all of it and its amazing down to that Ending watching the Dawn together with everyone sounds like a it would've been a beautiful scene and moment, but it sucks that we'll never get to experience it T T

    • @drnobody1908
      @drnobody1908 2 роки тому +2

      If they get enough voices wanting this DLC they will add it, all the stuff there is able to be added the problem is that they just shelved it they didn't just scrap it.

  • @syaojyn
    @syaojyn 5 років тому +28

    I read the translation a bit ago. It hurt a lot reading it, because what was happening... just make it a FF15-2, the amount of content, I'd honestly pay full price. It would have been amazing, and is a great shame that it didnt happen. Omg, just, this would have been amazing. They tried too hard with the extended media and wasted their effort on aspects that could have been better served in the base game. So beautiful, but such a shame. And they never released the modding tools, this game was a weird and mixed disappointing experience, but it's still just really good for what is available.

    • @kurogami8922
      @kurogami8922 5 років тому +6

      Zack Īkõn Lindner it's ironic that when no one asked for a sequel SE released 13-2 and then dump 15 in the trash when there's so much potential

    • @syaojyn
      @syaojyn 5 років тому +1

      @@kurogami8922 /sarcasm but wasnt it better that we got all those collab events? Who needs character moments for Luna or Loqi, when theres the Terra Battle or FF14 side shit to do?

    • @noavsnow7134
      @noavsnow7134 3 роки тому

      @@syaojyn lol too true

    • @noavsnow7134
      @noavsnow7134 3 роки тому

      @@kurogami8922 too true

  • @nightshadevii5196
    @nightshadevii5196 5 років тому +14

    Gosh this would have been so goooooood, I really want this! Seriously, it would wrap everything up so nicely, give all the characters more screentime, fixing the loose ends and getting all those beautiful themes in there. I love the dark, death of main character ending and all the wonderful feels that we got in the game. But imagine if this was the ending of new game+ or something like that. This dawn of the future ending is just... wow. This would have been so good. But who knows, as someone else said, maybe this will get remade.

  • @robitussinbrohan718
    @robitussinbrohan718 5 років тому +24

    The story is way more emotional and intriguing than the actual game as well as the other additional content. I guess it sounds xenoblade ish but man this would've been a better ending.

    • @finalfantasy3808
      @finalfantasy3808 3 роки тому +4

      And sadly, the best part of FFXV will never be canon, the Omen trailer. It was the only piece that agreed with the very first Final Fantasy Versus 13 trailer from 2006, which was responsible for all hype. It was this trailer's (FFVersus13) popularity that propelled a concept into a game, but they did not remain faithful to the original story. Thus, Omen trailer was just a memory of an idea that would never be.
      Though changes from Stella to Luna were made, what could have been, is an ever slumbering dark prince of evil named Noctis. He could only contact his deceased betrothed while alseep. In the end of the story, he would discover that the one he has been searching for to avenge his love, was he himself, but his mind couldn't remember the fatal stroke he gave his bride because the very crystal which gives him ultimate power has possessed this prince to wipe out it's enemy, the good and pure Luna. This is why Noctis' father King Regis has a horn protruding from his head, the prolonged use of dark power causes him to change into a demon. This is also why Noctis's eyes would change to red, signifying that the demon inside has taken over his body.
      Stella & Noctis would have been a Romeo and Juliet story.
      Noctis and Luna would have been like a Cloud and sacrificial Aerith story.
      Here's the very first Final Fantasy Versus VIII trailer:
      m.ua-cam.com/video/b6At_bb1PNU/v-deo.html

  • @swordofetro8291
    @swordofetro8291 5 років тому +11

    Until Versus come, let this be it. Long live thy line. Long live Final Fantasy.
    True King, Ardyn Lucis Caelum. We honor thy memory.

  • @LunethAkumajo
    @LunethAkumajo 5 років тому +11

    Oh wow, Noctis and Luna fighting eachother surrounded by fire(she did just absorb the scourge from Ifrit) That sounds incredibly familiar, almost like they made a hi-fi trailer depicting this...
    Good job square, you had it and gutted it.

  • @wiseguy240Winston
    @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому +12

    The dawn of the future is clearly by lightning returns or the FNC still.
    Bahamut=Bhunivelze: wants to erase humanity cause they're impure, both use light, both exist in a different realm and are the gods above all others.
    Even the ending is like lightning returns. The hero's join together to kill God. A crystal creates a new world and in 15's sense metaphorically and then the world is more like the real world.

  • @voicesbymic5346
    @voicesbymic5346 5 років тому +44

    It’s insulting that now we’ll never get the chance to see any of this happen onscreen let alone be able to play it :(

    • @Djroshi01
      @Djroshi01 5 років тому +4

      After the remakes? You never know. They may finish the collection. I would pay for the “Complete” version.

  • @NovelTeaOne
    @NovelTeaOne 4 роки тому +9

    At this point, I would be overwhelmingly excited to have this made into another movie. At the very least we'd be able to see this epic ending realized.

  • @RulerOfYore
    @RulerOfYore 5 років тому +9

    As much as I love XV.... I can’t forgive square for hyping up the DLC just to cancel it.

  • @xanthespace5141
    @xanthespace5141 5 років тому +13

    Not gonna lie, I just forgot about this game for the last year or more, I lost track of time on this one. Moved on to other stuff, accepting the reality and stopping being sad over characters in a game I never played myself anyway.
    And here I am, after watching this 40+ minute video, emotionally devastated, with memories of late 2015-early 2016 in my head. Excitement over the game back and just GOD FUCKING DAMNIT, SQUARE, КУСКИ ДЕРЬМА, КАК МОЖНО БЫЛО ТАК ОБЛАЖАТЬСЯ?
    This ending is so much better.
    I am sad now.
    Блять.

  • @Brahmsonite
    @Brahmsonite 5 років тому +20

    The bros' dlcs were there to get their play mechanics into the game, lol.

  • @r.u.phlegmaticbeats
    @r.u.phlegmaticbeats 5 років тому +24

    Even though FFXV isn’t complete but at least I had a really enjoyable ride :)

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +3

      What do you mean it was not complete dawn of the future is just an alternate finale the story is over with ep ardyn

    • @skytentheknight3294
      @skytentheknight3294 3 роки тому

      @@rohanshan7698 Was it meant to be the actual ending. If so, all endings could be viewed as alternative. The one where Noctis dies is just viewed as the real ending because the unfinished game/story could make this fit easier with how ardyn was viewed as the main villian anyway. In episode ardyn, they threw some of the true colors of Bahamut. If it was stated as just an alternate ending, please correct me.

  • @ultradius7
    @ultradius7 5 років тому +18

    To be honest, SE was so terrible at the organization of this entire project in a nonsense way... looking how they organized FF7 Remake tell you that they could do it that way with FF Versus/XV but they just fucked up everthing by:
    1) Overcharging Nomura with two heavy projects at the same time.
    2) Pushing Luminous Engine over Unreal Engine (which is way better and optimized).
    3) Wasting resources on a movie which story and content should been in the game.
    4) Wasting resources on an anime which story and content should been in the game too.
    5) Creating irrelevant events over real important content.

    • @sniderealism2410
      @sniderealism2410 3 роки тому +2

      Putting said real important content into DLC that you have to pay for, and released much later than the game.

    • @finalfantasy3808
      @finalfantasy3808 3 роки тому +3

      And sadly, the best part of FFXV will never be canon, the Omen trailer. It was the only piece that agreed with the very first Final Fantasy Versus 13 trailer from 2006, which was responsible for all hype. It was this trailer's (FFVersus13) popularity that propelled a concept into a game, but they did not remain faithful to the original story. Thus, Omen trailer was just a memory of an idea that would never be.
      Though changes from Stella to Luna were made, what could have been, is an ever slumbering dark prince of evil named Noctis. He could only contact his deceased betrothed while alseep. In the end of the story, he would discover that the one he has been searching for to avenge his love, was he himself, but his mind couldn't remember the fatal stroke he gave his bride because the very crystal which gives him ultimate power has possessed this prince to wipe out it's enemy, the good and pure Luna. This is why Noctis' father King Regis has a horn protruding from his head, the prolonged use of dark power causes him to change into a demon. This is also why Noctis's eyes would change to red, signifying that the demon inside has taken over his body.
      Stella & Noctis would have been a Romeo and Juliet story.
      Noctis and Luna would have been like a Cloud and sacrificial Aerith story.
      Here's the very first Final Fantasy Versus VIII trailer:
      m.ua-cam.com/video/b6At_bb1PNU/v-deo.html

    • @noavsnow7134
      @noavsnow7134 3 роки тому +1

      @@finalfantasy3808 wtf I wish to god they would reboot versus 13 where did you get this information

    • @noavsnow7134
      @noavsnow7134 3 роки тому +1

      Also completely agree they fucked up the whole insomnia invasion with the movie,nomura having to help out with ff13 and 14 still pisses me off that nomuras vision was never realized

    • @finalfantasy3808
      @finalfantasy3808 3 роки тому +1

      @@noavsnow7134, It was information of Japanese article translations and from 4Chan leaks, from a developer who worked on the game under Nomura when it was still called "Final Fantasy Versus 13". Nomura was taking too long on the project, so they gave the project to Hajime Tabata, which is why they changed Stella to Luna, a new but difficult Luminous engine and a new story altogether with remnants of the old, like the main characters that Nomura created. After the overhaul of changes, many developers were taken from the project to work with Nomura on Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy 7 Remake. This is why the Final Fantasy 15 story seemed incomplete, because it was. The first trailer was just a concept, it didn't have a complete story. It was the high demand from fans that caused them to give it its own number title instead of being an extension of the Nova Crystallis universe (FF13). Also, they didn't actively work on the game for ten years, they put out the concept trailer and then they didn't touch the project for years.

  • @puddlejumper8466
    @puddlejumper8466 5 років тому +10

    Thanks for all the FF15 videos Pez. It's how I found your channel and it's so sad that it's all over. I look forward to your future coverage of FF7R, FF16, FFX-3, and whatever else Square throws at us!

  • @SorasShadow1
    @SorasShadow1 5 років тому +23

    Turns out you can write a better story when you keep your focus and don't have ideas tossed out then scrapped two months later! For the better part of a _decade_ Square! Who _knew_ Square!!

  • @Cryosxify
    @Cryosxify 5 років тому +40

    They should do a proper remake in 13 years

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому +2

      Remaster yes but a remake definitely not. Final fantasy 6 needs to be next.

    • @Cryosxify
      @Cryosxify 5 років тому +3

      @@wiseguy240Winston I did say in 13 years...

    • @NHR2
      @NHR2 5 років тому +4

      @@wiseguy240Winston No VIII needs to he next. Don't care about VI

    • @mrsgamer9218
      @mrsgamer9218 5 років тому

      @@NHR2 YES

    • @stevej1800
      @stevej1800 5 років тому +1

      Emm took them 13 years to make this game and get all the fix-it DLC. They should just start now then

  • @RawrJaayZ
    @RawrJaayZ 5 років тому +25

    just you telling a brief overview of the story has me teary eyed. it would've been perfect to end xv

  • @agravain9006
    @agravain9006 5 років тому +9

    Ardyn: "If you beat me...you get this apple."

  • @NamelessKing1597
    @NamelessKing1597 5 років тому +2

    Sol, Luna, Noctis.
    Sun, Moon, Night.
    Real creative naming conventions.

  • @lordmarvin7177
    @lordmarvin7177 5 років тому +2

    i can only imagine how good the music for queen luna would have been

  • @BlackSteelKeyChain
    @BlackSteelKeyChain 5 років тому +9

    I'll never forgive you Square everything about 15 deserved better than what it got. Square will always be the living embodiment of the "Congratulations you played yourself" meme

  • @Crow-nc1oo
    @Crow-nc1oo 5 років тому +5

    I kinda want to make a petition to get this dlc out.

  • @LightningKing91
    @LightningKing91 5 років тому +5

    I want this DLC noooowwww

  • @Cman04092
    @Cman04092 5 років тому +12

    This sounds amazing. They should have made this, They could have at least done this as a movie or something after all the disapointment they put us through with FFXV.

  • @LokiGodOfTime
    @LokiGodOfTime 5 років тому +20

    So.....we could have had a legit ending where everyone lived and it actually made sense?? Dang, now I want that. That final battle sounds like it would have looked absolutely amazing

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +2

      Why does not the og ending make sense

    • @LokiGodOfTime
      @LokiGodOfTime 5 років тому +4

      rohan shan the original ending does make sense, I’m talking about the alternate ending they gave us in v.2 of episode Ignis

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому

      @@LokiGodOfTime agreerd

  • @1nick11
    @1nick11 5 років тому +3

    thankyou so much for telling the story,you had me emotional, especially how you spoke about the bros fighting with eachother the last time

  • @ryuuotaku35
    @ryuuotaku35 5 років тому +8

    They made the biggest mistake Removing this Ending and everything you said. This is the True Ending, the game’s ending we got was more of a Good ending but not the real one.
    That explains why Luna art was like that in the FF15 logo.
    This could have been excellent.

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +1

      This ending was not removed do you honestly think they had all this idea from the get go.

    • @ryuuotaku35
      @ryuuotaku35 5 років тому

      rohan shan Then they should release it.

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +1

      @@ryuuotaku35 ?

    • @ryuuotaku35
      @ryuuotaku35 5 років тому

      rohan shan What I mean is They could have done it. but probably FF15 could have become a episodic game. 😐
      It’s a good storyline. and much more cinematic.

    • @josueloya2683
      @josueloya2683 3 роки тому

      Not really. Luna reflects the logo by the oracle of the prophecy painting. In the fight of Chapter 14 of the Royal Edition, she was to appear resurrected to help Noctis. That comes in the image note in the novel. It is simply an art that is reused in different ways to accommodate it in the new narrative of the alternative line.

  • @zensei7685
    @zensei7685 2 роки тому +2

    Would be amazing to make this into a movie and do it up real good. I will always wonder about versus XIII but wow did I sure fall in love with XV too.

  • @insertname3919
    @insertname3919 5 років тому +5

    Great video as always 💖 another part in the book Ardyn is remembered in Eos by being given the title as the founder king of Lucis.

  • @grunermrk
    @grunermrk 2 роки тому +2

    What could have been, still got a fantastic story with a fantastic ending. Kind of happy with a bittersweet ending.

  • @DancerInTheDark101
    @DancerInTheDark101 5 років тому +6

    Why... Why did Square cancel this??? While I love the original game and ending, this would have been AMAZING 😍 I'm so pissed that we will never see this in a media other than writing.
    Anyway, great vid Pez! FFXV has certainly been one hell of a ride.

  • @lprocks555
    @lprocks555 4 роки тому +2

    your enthusiasm towards ffxv is infectious. i understand the criticisms leveled at it, and some of them are warranted, but the story and characters hold a special place in my heart and it's so good to see someone this positive and sincerely emotional about it. thanks for the playthroughs and the breakdown of what would have been an excellent addition to the game

  • @scooch2300
    @scooch2300 5 років тому +2

    we should sign a petition for them to make the dlcs, the general idea of the plot from the books sound awesome but would have been much better if made into a rpg

  • @Cincelia
    @Cincelia 5 років тому +8

    I got confused by the computer sounds I thought my pc is dying or something

  • @theLukkyChannel
    @theLukkyChannel 5 років тому +3

    It sucks that thru all of this video , not once did I heard of NYX . and it's worse because his own corpse was at the end , including king regies and eodolas and they both got some time in the novel but not him 😭😭 smh

  • @xXNightmareZero8Xx
    @xXNightmareZero8Xx 5 років тому +16

    It breaks my heart that this wasn't put in the final game. All that time and effort put into all those otherwise pointless product placement cross-overs could have easily been spent on Dawn of The Future. I've kept track of every bit of news and removed content and all the theories and everything concerning the development of this game ever since the very first 2006 trailer. Everybody knew this game was going to be incredible. That the story would be tragic. That Noctis would be one if not possibly the best of the main FF characters. But the development hell was so real was this game, possibly one of if not the worst in recent history for any AAA Mainline Final Fantasy title. There's a lot of speculation as to everything that really happened behind the scenes, but the cold reality in the end is that Square really fucked this beautiful game up. That is the most tragic thing. I love Noctis, and all the characters. All the music, the world of Eos. The Multiple Timelines and seemingly infinite possibilities. But this really is the ending the game needed and it is very sad hearing how everything was going to go down while imagining playing it all as originally intended.

  • @rohanshan7698
    @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +3

    Why the hell are so many people saying why isnt this in the main game do you actully think they had this idea from the start of ffxv devolpment

    • @rohanshan7698
      @rohanshan7698 5 років тому +3

      Its obvious they came up with this idea after they finished working on ep gladio ignis and prompto

    • @DevilHunter1994
      @DevilHunter1994 5 років тому +2

      @@rohanshan7698 Exactly. The DLC episodes they picked literally a result of a post game survey. I'm sure some parts in the early chapters of this book where things they had in mind, like the Somnus and Ardyn backstory, but everything in Episode Luna on up is clearly completely new ideas that they thought up.

  • @Wankyjankjrjerk
    @Wankyjankjrjerk 5 років тому +4

    I wish there was like a kickstarter or something like that to fund square to do this in-game, I wanna see this ending so bad. It feels like a true FF ending. # justiceforLuna

    • @AveryScarlet
      @AveryScarlet 5 років тому

      I doubt they'd go through with it out. From what I've learned recently, they canceled even before Tabata made the decision to leave the company. If they're the ones that decided to pull the plug on XV, then I doubt they'd accept any funding.

  • @ramaster18
    @ramaster18 5 років тому +4

    I think all the other endings that we received were what if's and the books ending was what they truly wanted to do with the characters but didn't have the time or possibly the resources to make it. I'm wondering if that's why the director was let go, if I'm remembering right, because he wanted to change the ending they had made and they wanted to focus on promoting FF7.

  • @defalt7023
    @defalt7023 5 років тому +3

    MGSV and FFXV...
    You feel it too, don't you? The phantom pain?

    • @j.s.t.6515
      @j.s.t.6515 5 років тому

      Just stop supporting companies like Konami and Square. They don't deserve the properties they have 😑. Look forward to other studies with good ideas and a resemblance of ethic and talent.

  • @thenefariousbear4315
    @thenefariousbear4315 5 років тому +24

    I really hate to be this guy but this really should've been in the game. The fall of the empire, Sol, Luna, and Bahamut being the villain seems kinda integral to the story. The Ardyn stuff I can see being DLC even if it seems better in novel form. This game would've been so much better with all this. It makes the game's ending seem really lame and pointless in comparison. Ugh missed opportunities.

    • @AveryScarlet
      @AveryScarlet 5 років тому +4

      I actually prefer this over the current ending. I know it's a sudden 180 for Bahamut, but this sound a whole lot better than the final fight with Ardyn

    • @sexykabuto6368
      @sexykabuto6368 4 роки тому

      Right ? Imagine during the fight between Ardyn and Noctis they realize something is wrong and then team up, then bahamut bring luna back to life and with aranea they fight bahamut

  • @draiad645
    @draiad645 5 років тому +4

    If this had of been how the game actually went I think the game could have easily skyrocketed into my fave of the series. The story presented there sounds amazing. It would have been so cool to see it all play out like that. I love FFXV but this just sounds so much more powerful.

  • @Dalebert01
    @Dalebert01 5 років тому +2

    You know in hindsight we should have guessed Bahamut was a Caelum. He's got the ability to summon swords, don't he? Kinda kicking myself for missing something so obvious now.
    But all in all this was an awesome video Pez. Videos like these are what made me subscribe in the first place. I love your streams and your theories about older games but raw speculation and breaking down lore like you did here are my personal favorite's :) Looking forward to more!

  • @divineace4856
    @divineace4856 5 років тому +5

    Great video
    I would not of looked into myself.
    If only if they added this into the main game.

  • @tdparisi
    @tdparisi 5 років тому +7

    So did they ever actually explain where the Star scourge came from?
    That's the biggest hole left in the story. And yeah, Bahamut played some cruel games trying to destroy it. But how is it that the crystal just absorbed it all as soon as they killed him?

    • @alexgipson5363
      @alexgipson5363 5 років тому

      Not a hole lol just not explained

    • @Chloetryingtheirbest
      @Chloetryingtheirbest 4 роки тому

      It is suggested in Ardyns story that it is a plague just like any other, one that happens to exist one day with no specific details how. It's just that this plague is more powerful than anyone expected so the Gods intervene and well that's everything in 15 starts

  • @krikit13b4ss
    @krikit13b4ss 5 років тому +5

    There's a new ending? So the game I bought played and beat within a month of the release isn't even the true game? Is this just what the world is now? Unfinished garbage sold at full price to the audience, only to be refined and re released for more money? Movies be made, released and then re released with unfinished scenes for more money? I hate.

    • @skullbacon2783
      @skullbacon2783 4 роки тому +1

      Honestly the games original ending would have been fine it felt like a good bye to noctis

  • @DayDreamerCalling
    @DayDreamerCalling Рік тому +1

    I miss ffxv so much 😞😞 needed this ending to really make this game next level

  • @VILL107
    @VILL107 5 років тому +1

    The sheer enthusiam coming out of pez has made me excited when hearing about the story. Epic storytelling pez and yes it does sound like classic Final Fantasy. On to the next adventure my fellow Peseantz and hopefully for more stories from Tabata san.

  • @JPlaysandDissects
    @JPlaysandDissects 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely criminal that this didn't happen. Today is April 6, 2021 and I just recently beat ffxv a few days ago... and I bought it when it came out. I'm a final fantasy nut. I had over 100 hrs of gameplay when I stopped playing when it came out because the story didn't grip me at all. And that is because I didn't really know who Arden was, what his role was, how deep the game was really supposed to be. This is because we now live in an age where they release a 30 hour game and expect u to buy 10 different DLCs and watch the movie first and read the books. Does anybody else miss the days when u could just buy a Fantasy game and EVERYTHING WAS IN THE GAME ITSELF!? Hearing you tell this alternate ending Blew My Fucking Mind! If this had happened opposed to the ending we got it probably would've been one of my favorite fantasy games instead of the least favorite. In terms of story this alternate ending would only be behind 7 and 8 for me as much as I also love 10 and 13. It's just a real shame that I had to watch a ton of utube videos to find out who Arden was and what his story was like and see that bahamut is the real villain. Kind of important, dont ya think? Dont ya think these vitally important aspects of the story should've been in the actual fucken game? Unbelievable. This book sounds amazing though, just so unfortunate we dont get to play it on screen. :(

  • @Kumiko026
    @Kumiko026 5 років тому +15

    But when are we getting a full English version!? I need this book

    • @Ric3ballRav3
      @Ric3ballRav3 5 років тому +4

      English version is coming out in November

    • @Kumiko026
      @Kumiko026 5 років тому +1

      Omg,thank,you!

    • @Phenriir
      @Phenriir 4 роки тому

      Is it out yet?

    • @dice5709
      @dice5709 4 роки тому

      @@Phenriir I heard it will be released in the middle of 2020.

    • @udayanav2148
      @udayanav2148 4 роки тому

      @@dice5709 can you tag me when it does? ive been waiting since they announced it :(

  • @DuPz0r
    @DuPz0r 5 років тому +6

    They set up Bahamut as the big villian in FFXV:Comrades. Not sure if you ever made it through the entire arc of that online co-op part or not Pez.

    • @theflashgordon193
      @theflashgordon193 5 років тому +1

      really ? this is why he is a boss ?

    • @DuPz0r
      @DuPz0r 5 років тому

      @@theflashgordon193 Yep

  • @akiraguy
    @akiraguy 5 років тому +15

    SE giving Nomura too much to do so he do crapshit on ffxiiiv/ ffxv for the past 7 years.
    Nomura fans: ITS SE EXECUTIVE FAULT! THEY GAVE HIM TOO MUCH TO DO!
    Tabata gave us a functioning game + 4 dlcs + multiplayer game section even though SE executive demands craploads of useless dlcs from his team.
    Nomura fans: TABATA RUINS FFXV! HE SHOULD JUST FOLLOW NOMURA'S VISION!
    Me: Excuse me wtf?!

    • @leeuchiha5661
      @leeuchiha5661 5 років тому

      Why argue this, it solves nothing?

    • @akiraguy
      @akiraguy 5 років тому +3

      Argue? No no no. This is a statement.

    • @DistantHana
      @DistantHana 5 років тому +3

      akiraguy PREEEEEEACH!!!!

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 5 років тому +3

      There both victims honestly nomora for having so much pushed on to him and there still doing it for some reason resulting in him not getting much done with the game and tabata being stuck trying to piece this barley a game into something and put on a deadline he and square knows he can't meet now both directors are constantly slandered because of this game nomora for apparently" never being able to get a game out " even tho that's not true and tabata getting hate for nor delivering on unrealistic expectations from fans resulting in him leaving the company

    • @leeuchiha5661
      @leeuchiha5661 5 років тому

      @@akiraguy I guess, in the end, we'll never really know.

  • @cuhhh7484
    @cuhhh7484 5 років тому +2

    Just when you pull me back into FFVII........ You get me pulled back into FFXV..... DAMMIT

  • @armanightrealm4217
    @armanightrealm4217 5 років тому +4

    I just woke up and watched this and I cry. Why Square didn’t use this, this is too much for just being the base for it QAQ

  • @KiteH4cK27
    @KiteH4cK27 5 років тому +4

    This sounds so good. It‘s such a shame. 😞 It took them 13 years to finish this story ... so we sort of got the versus 13 in the end after all. xD

  • @patrickkader2046
    @patrickkader2046 5 років тому +3

    It could of been the most profound Final Fantasy in recent times, unfortunate. Then again, it was marketed as a multi media franchise (the book being last)

  • @npsnow1547
    @npsnow1547 5 років тому +10

    That would have been amazing..... I want a FFXV remake with that part implemented as the main cannon route.... I like dark stories but this is just way better than what we have got... SQE screw off, you ruin everything :(

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      A remake won't happen anytime soon if it is going to happen lol.

  • @JordiPrada96
    @JordiPrada96 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. You really made me want to start the book now. And YES that really would have completed it.

  • @MarraLo0390
    @MarraLo0390 5 років тому +2

    This ending is way better classic Final Fantasy story telling.

  • @davidpower5710
    @davidpower5710 5 років тому +4

    Kind of sad that cindy and iris are kind of forgotten

    • @Lennis01
      @Lennis01 5 років тому +1

      Well, this is only a glimmer of the full story. Iris almost certainly has a bigger role.

  • @IrvinTime1989
    @IrvinTime1989 5 років тому +3

    Now knowing that they still got it.... I have high hopes for 16...... When EVER that may come. Anyone else??

  • @nomadicgamer9466
    @nomadicgamer9466 5 років тому +1

    You have an amazing knack for story telling. I could imagine everything and I felt everything!! It baffles me now why that dlc had to be canceled. :/ 15's story - it's complete story, sounds incredibly emotional. It deserves better, for sure.

  • @HashbrownCloudyKai
    @HashbrownCloudyKai 5 років тому +2

    Holy shit Pez, this entire thing is so perfect! It breaks my heart that we will never get that DLC

  • @jadeandblood
    @jadeandblood Рік тому +1

    The ffxv we have right now is not bad. I really like the bros having a road trip and all that.
    But this, THIS right here, is a Final Fantasy game that should've been. Not just a novel.

  • @takualee7973
    @takualee7973 5 років тому +3

    37:03 WHO AT SQUARE-ENIX THOUGHT THIS WOULD NOT BE WORTH THE MONEY????

    • @LuisHuizar
      @LuisHuizar 5 років тому

      The same people that allowed two sequels of Final Fantasy XIII

  • @JohnMcDaniels
    @JohnMcDaniels 5 років тому +2

    Stella to Luna in another life thank you

  • @jellosapiens7261
    @jellosapiens7261 4 роки тому +1

    This feels like a fun alternate ending to me, but I'm not upset with the ending we got after Episode Ardyn, which made everything make sense (at least to me). I liked that FFXV didn't have a traditional "Kill God" ending, that its themes of sacrifice and accepting fate stood in opposition to XIII's. Honestly this ending feels like fanservice to me. The game was meant to have a bittersweet ending; tying everything up in a neat little bow like this and letting all the characters survive undermines the themes of the whole narrative and just feels like a way to appease fans who couldn't handle the real ending

    • @jellosapiens7261
      @jellosapiens7261 4 роки тому

      Also, are the people saying "Why wasn't this in the base game?" just total fucking idiots? It wasn't in the original game because it had never been planned, and they came up with it as wish fulfillment for fans who couldn't handle the real ending

  • @Pokepucky
    @Pokepucky 4 роки тому +1

    When they announced the dlcs where cancelled, I died on the inside and I swear I would sell square my soul to get this in a game....

  • @EdwardViaTomato
    @EdwardViaTomato 3 роки тому +1

    Dawn of the Future should've been FFXV-2. Forget cancelled episodes. I think if it had remained as just episodes, it would've furthered a lot of those complaints that call it an "incomplete game".
    I think FFXV was complete, just through a limited perspective (Noctis'). But this "FFXV-2" could've subverted that completeness, by revealing the other perspectives, and then even going in and further changing the ending. That would have been tricky, but could've easily been done by saying the ending we originally saw was still just what Noctis was viewing in the Crystal. Simple enough. Some would've thought it cheap, but it canonically works.

  • @lc9377
    @lc9377 5 років тому

    this explains so much and i believe that its highly possible that square left plot holes to later fill in as dlc but fucked it up royally

  • @AnthonyH0395
    @AnthonyH0395 5 років тому +1

    This makes me so MAD! I tried to always argue that what we got was a complete game and everything was just extra stuff because the core game revolved around Noct. But this just proves that we got something incomplete. Hell, I would have taken this in the form of an anime series like the anime leading to the game was or movie like Kingsglaive or Advent Children. So many fans probably aren't going to read this and are going to miss out on so much.

  • @PhoenixDfire
    @PhoenixDfire 3 роки тому

    Nice Video Peasant. I guess I'm kind of lucky. I only bought the windows edition of FF XV earlier this year, partly to help with the lockdown and partly because I've never played a FF game before this one. So I didn't have the waiting for new updates like the rest of you and got the full experience in one hit. With all the additional footage, I did find the original storyline quite engaging and that final campfire scene is an emotional beatdown I've not had in a game for quite some time. However, as I worked my way through the DLCs, It did feel that there was an even better story hiding in plain sight. I only found out the final DLCs were cancelled after I completed Ignus, so it was a little gutting. Since then I bought the English version of Dawn of the Future, which has given me closure for the whole story (And what I would give for an AudioBook with the existing voice cast) but the fact we never got to play it, was such a shame. So, I guess it's time to let go of FF XV. It's only been nine months for me and it's hard to say goodbye, so goodness knows how people who've been playing this game since 2016 feel.

  • @TheKeskisormi
    @TheKeskisormi 5 років тому +13

    Praying for FFXV remake in 50 years. I don't even need to see it I can die the day after it's announced.

    • @FURognar
      @FURognar 5 років тому +3

      I'm thinking 20th anniversary before I go completely deaf in my old age

    • @Keyblade-Knight
      @Keyblade-Knight 5 років тому +1

      I'm betting 10.

    • @hellish958
      @hellish958 5 років тому +1

      Me too

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      Wasn't good enough for a remake. But final fantasy 6 needs a remake after 7.

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      @@Keyblade-Knight lol no

  • @kaielumryan2073
    @kaielumryan2073 4 роки тому +1

    When playing fifteen I knew that there were different timelines. And when noctis sacrifices himself to save the world at the end I knew that it wasn't the true or happy ending. Something was missing.
    I began thinking of ways it could have gone different and this is exactly what I imagined!! (Never would have thought of deamon queen Luna though but that's epic) The kings (Noct and ardyn) of light and their comrades along with the lesser god's standing against a mad grand God who wants to wipe everyone and everything out.
    To me this is perfect. The true happy ending as Luna comes back at the end, all the bros reunited and ardyn being redeemed then the ending wedding finally taking place in altisia. I couldn't wish for anything else to make this better.
    It's a absolute crime that square never added it in like this. It's a betrayal in my mind.
    I think they should add it as a large update for those who have taken every route in the main character Doc's and have seen every ending. They should all lead up to this as the final TRUE timeline.

  • @ryangurr7926
    @ryangurr7926 5 років тому +3

    This was actually amazing Pez, I didn't like that Somnus' character got a bit of redemption cause I think that takes away from Ardyns story a bit and, plus if you believe that the ends dont justify the means then Ardyn still made all the right choices at the time, he saved more than Somnus and was a better king. Definitely gonna have to get a copy of this book. One thing I did notice though was a distinct lack of demonslayer Iris, that's a shame

  • @ontos8914
    @ontos8914 Рік тому +1

    I wish XV had gotten even 1 more year of development

  • @TheSarste
    @TheSarste 5 років тому +1

    Powerful and compelling stuff! After hearing this, I finally feel at peace with the conclusion of the game. So much depth here. I particularly enjoyed the fact that Somnus' perspective was explained and that the two brothers were able to work together in the end. I am satisfied.

  • @_lizziee
    @_lizziee 5 років тому +1

    That all sounded incredible 😭
    And like you said, classic FF

  • @ragnarokonlinekapatiran1756
    @ragnarokonlinekapatiran1756 5 років тому +1

    Let us petition this to SE. They should really put these things to action.

  • @angelsdoexist
    @angelsdoexist 5 років тому +3

    I am so sad that they didn't do this...it really is what FF15 should have been

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      Lol 13-3 already did this.

    • @angelsdoexist
      @angelsdoexist 5 років тому

      @@wiseguy240Winston does that matter?

    • @wiseguy240Winston
      @wiseguy240Winston 5 років тому

      @@angelsdoexist Actually it does considering the final fantasy 13 trilogy where the FNC started and 13 versus was a part of that before it became ff15. So yeah 15 has been burrowing themes, lore and story ideas from it.

  • @sonic4life
    @sonic4life 3 роки тому

    Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but demon Luna's design is based off the logo of ff15. Pretty cool.

  • @DevilHunter1994
    @DevilHunter1994 5 років тому +2

    I have to say this was a really interesting and heartfelt alternative to the game's original ending. I also really liked what they added to the Somnus and Ardyn relationship. I really wish that at least could have been added into the main game. Ardyn's redemption was also really well done. With all that said...I still think I prefer the original more tragic ending to the story. This was a great what-if scenario though and I'm sad that I'll never get to play it properly.

  • @Zerum69
    @Zerum69 4 роки тому +2

    Does this confirm the theory that Regis made an unholy agreement with a guardian to keep resetting time over and over and over until EVERYONE gets their perfect ending?
    Cuz this is the 4th or 5th official timeline and each one we see is closer to the perfect ending with this timeline being the best one yet

  • @sisilessthan3
    @sisilessthan3 4 роки тому

    So we needed a movie, anime series, and a book along with the game to finish the story of ffxv?!? Bro that's too damn much