Final Fantasy XV biggest mysteries explained: A Tale of Love and Despair (FF15 story spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2017
- The grandaddy of all final fantasy xv theory videos is awaiting to blow your mind! It's taken almost 3 months for the story of FF15 to be fully explained. Who Ardyn really is. Who Nadir is. The truth of the summons. Eos and Ifrit - A tale of Love and Despair. Why Nyx died in kingsglaive. Truth of Noctis and Lucis families power and a hella lot more.
If you have read this far without clocking this is a spoiler video for the story of the game, cutscenes, gameplay, kingsglaive movie and brotherhood then derp on you... :P
Now I can't look at the ending of FFXV and the final boss fight the same :,O
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Bring on the Ardyn DLC! Now that would be a 30th anniversary treat!... as well as a ff7 remake trailer of course XD
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Intro by SkullTune: skulltuneofficial - Ігри
SquareEnix Employee: "Tabata sir! How do we complete the story we didn't finish?"
Tabata: "I don't know. Just wait for some guy on youtube to do it for us."
is it sad that i can actually believe that he would say that? lol
Hahahaha! 😂😂😂 Maaan, it's ironic how the praise and excitement this newfound (theoretic) lore is getting is only testament to how crap the storytelling and in-game story itself were. Made me dislike the game even more. 😒
Alessandro Moosa
Same. Personally I like the game, but the more I think about it, the more I can't deny how bad it is.
Writing something and implementing it into the game are two different things.
I'm certain people understand the difference between a story and plot implementation. Oh wait, nevermind. I guess there's all strokes of life..FML~
This makes Ardyn and Ifrit's characters even more tragic. We all thought Ifrit was only in this to destroy humanity and worked with Ardyn to achieve that. But no. They had a common goal. They both wanted revenge for how they were wronged. Ifrit because of the other Astral Gods killing Eos(Ardyn's mother) and Ardyn because his kingdom, his birthright was stolen from him by his own brother and had everyone turn against him which caused his daemon energy to influence and feed his anger and spite even more. Ardyn and Ifrit were both dealt a very bad hand and got fucked over by the gods and humanity.
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this does however add a lo of depth to the story i like it
I hope Square decides to add in these story details into the game. It would've made the game way better than what it is now.
kysandrien It wont be enough
Except you'll have to pay for it.
the first video was cool but in this one i think you are wrong,we know in ff13 vs ardyn was not related to the king family but was one of the messenger of chaos,the dark crystal so it could be a left over of this old plot...
They probably will in the new cutscenes we'll get.
It should be noted that SE wanted the playerbase to figure things out on their own though, and that is exactly what we have done, they are already making changes to the story mind you, plus the DLC additions, but overall SE got what they wanted, the players talking and discussing about the lore :)
FF15-2: Ardyn's story. Make it happen Square.
Thatssomegoodpie Animations Make it happened and take my money.
Thatssomegoodpie Animations no Ardyn SUCKS
Thatssomegoodpie Animations but free
Instead of calling it FF15-2, call it FF Versus XV
Id reather it was released as an animation film, such as kingsglaive. I thought it was a masterpiece of digital graphics animation.
In Greek mythology when Zeus wanted to punish Aphrodite he had Eros make her fall in love with Prince Anchises. She birthed Aeneas, founder of Rome, from that union. There is record of goddesses being shamed for sleeping with mortal men (despite gods doing so with mortal women). I still believe Ifrit is Eos brother. That is why he would go into the Underworld for her.
OracleThunder oh I like that; mirror Ravus and Luna's tragedy
OracleThunder Didn't Romulus and Remus found Rome?
they are the descendants of him.
Brian MacLeod Aeneas is the forefather of the twins. The twins were born in Latinum, the city Aeneas founded with refugee Trojans. After Romulus and Remus were exposed to die as infants they weren't taken back into the city proper. Hence why the twins had to build their own neighboring city which would later grow so large it would engulf Latinum and become one big megapolis. That is why the Romans spoke Latin and not Roman.
OracleThunder Cool.
Holy crap, this is amazing. Why couldnt some of this stuff be more fleshed out in the game. Having said that, I do think games are at their best when they allow the player to dig a little deeper in the lore if they are interested. I dont think a company should ever give everything away in the main story, but leave bread crumbs for the fanbase to figure out for themselves.
Pitioss Dungeon is actually a masterpiece of a dungeon. I have never seen a dungeon so well made that tells an entire story.
omg yes i know at least they did it and not like priveuse end doungues that says nothing impostant
Fake Name I am doing that in a story I am writing for my animation project. I am a professional animator. If I did that, than people will talk about how incomplete the story is. I love it when team Ico dose that way with Ico and SOTC.
I honestly wish they had a few more cut scenes inside the secret dungeon. I love lore but even designing lore story is not an easy job, no one does it better than dark souls developers. final fantasy 15 is a great game with a great story but the story is entirely untold which is a bummer for me.
I think this "bread crumbs" tactic paid out in the end. It is really time/cost consuming to make cinematics and such while leaving bits and pieces everywhere involves the community to put the pieces together for the clear picture.
Holy crap I don't have a mind left!
Sue Lightning mine blew up the last video!
saaame
When I first saw the rock of ravatogh i was so sure there would be something about ifrit and hoped there would be a ifrit boss fight before the timeskip and then later a second one (the one that actual happens) and i was so destroyed when there was "nothing" and after i finished the story i came back to it and was so confused over the looks of the volcano and now i finally understand why because its ifrits horn!
Please Square give us backstory cutscenes!!!!!!
i was lost after 00:01
Some of the questions were actually answered in the game so i was confused why people asked this shit.
What was the song?
The story and lore of FFXV is so damn good. Love all the breadcrumbs they left.
ChryI these are not breadcrumbs this is the entire bakery that for some reason they failed to properly present it to the player and then we have poor pez and 1000 of fans hammering their dicks as hard as they can to squeeze as much as we can to fill the gap this game left in our hearts.
+fleeplayTV Here's a W for you, sir. You speak too much truth.
Pess, your videos are like my cup of coffee of the day. Keep up the good work man!
For a long time.... every time I fly past that mountain questioning its structure... I was staring at ifrit and eos's body....
wtf is life
Sees length of the video. Damn, Pez is on a roll. Time to boil up some tea.
DLC Pez? Nah I've been praying for an Ardyn based prequel
Matthew Mellott ffxv type 0!
and they have enough story to make one if they really wanted.
Absolutely! They could even make it a story that align the same time line as XV told from Ardyn's persepective. All while adding in his back story through playable flashbacks and stuff like that...
I can dream.
Matthew Mellott I need to see more about ardyn, noctis father, ingis, and lady Luna. I also hope they would do ff15-2 and ff15-3, at least make good use of the engine and story lore they have.
Don’t call it ff15-2 or ff15-3. How about FF Versus XV?
the ending blew my mind! please do a that hour long video
i think we need an episode ardyn tbh
Welp episode ardyn is coming
It puts a smile on my face hearing you so happy puting the puzzle pieces together
I love the idea of The Rock of Rav being the corpses of Eos and Ifrit, it really compliments how the Astrals are being killed yet still able to be summoned still connected to the World, they're reborn (sort of). Great stuff, glad you shared someone else's thoughts, if you didn't then I more than likely never would have known about them.
These theory vids are the best thing EVER! I've watched them repeatedly and worked a lot of what's been shown into a FFXV fanfic I'm writing :D
I was just talking about this with my friends today. This would of been an amazing story.. if square had just gone ahead and told it outright, and not with DLC, movies, alternate games, and whatever
Awesome video Pez!!! I read the whole article and I'm loving this theory. Keep up the great work!
A cutscene would have done wonders for that dungeon, the overall atmosphere and scenery was pretty chilling, in a good way.
I love how passionate you get telling us about the story. Gives a like!
Your videos have made me see this game in a whole new light. I liked this game before, but this depth to the story I felt it was missing has made me love it. You sir have just earned yourself another subscriber.
Literally finished FFxv Royal edition last night and cannot stop watching your videos - been watching them all day. thank you so much for putting everything into context for me
I'M SO EXCITED THAT YOU DID THIS
In the end they really did mean the whole "There is no good or bad, but thinking makes it so."
Yep, and now It totally fits. I knew I liked the wibes I was getting from the story of XV. There was something truly marvelous buried in its framework.
and it also in a sense clarifies the whole thing about the theme in vs XIII where the lucis family was actually evil even if they themselves don't know it.
yes!! so excited to watch this, it makes me love XV even more. Thanks for making the video to go along with the reddit threads!
I just want Ardyn to be playable he's my favorite character from 15
I just figured out today he's(ardyn) in ff, advent children and a few other scenes in games.idk about the backstory until now. a fallen summon or a grim reaper of sorts
@@upsidediy3945 you got links? I'm interested in seeing this :D
Mind Blown @29:32 love how you really get into it, can really hear it through your voice hahaha. subbed!
I love this so much. I may have had more enjoyment from the many XV theories you've made both before and after release. These are soooo good. Thanks again mate. I'm gonna need to go pick up the brain bits off the floor now. 😘
god damn!!! I'll Cry... that was again a great Video. The more I learn about the "hidden" story the more emotional i get. keep it up
wow that was a great video pez. can't wait for more story dlc for this game. 😄
Quality work sir, very comprehensive. I don't like anyone's videos, but you sir, got a like and a subscribe.
Square Enix should just hire you.
I thought that too but then, we wouldn't get all this fun!
OMG Thank you so much for your videos! I spent days and days all alone trying to comprehend FFXV lore and thanks to you I understand it all now!
There're still things to discuss about Ardyn's true name (the speech in french is a little different) but wow, amazing work, you blew my mind away! I was litterally crying by the end of your video!
Love this game and Ardyn so much!
Mind-blowing. I'm speechless.
Just look at the english lyrics of 'Somnus' and the Latin meaning of the name 'Ardyn' hat his surname 'Lucis Caelum'. It all makes sense! Thanks Pez for mind-blowing me with all your amazing videos!
Each time you post a theory video, I'm like 😱 🙌 😻 👏🏻
Keep up KUPOOOOOOO.
AMAZING vid peas. Its sad to think alot of people will not read the post or watch this and they will talk badly about ffXV's story and lore.
It has been a while since you blew my mind this wide open Pez!!! 0_o Goddam I wish this had been far more fleshed out in the game, it would have been even darker and sadder than it already was. Could have been truly EPIC
I love how passionate he is in creating his videos and when he speaks. ^^ Very admirable. :)
I find it funny I found your channel and these videos a day after I watched Kingsglaive.
Peasant and Perona77, you are all incredible! Thank you for these amazing videos and information!
Ive been watching your all morning and I have been shown a new world with new eyes! I subbed so quick! i am totally sharing this! mind = blown
MIND=BLOWN
Once again Pez you delivered an amazing video!!
KUDOS!!!
Thankyou Final Fantasy Peasant for making a video about explaining this incredible story. I am actually mindblown!
Man, I love your videos. These theories and all the evidence around are super mind blowing. The way you explain them and get so excited about it makes it really fun to listen to. :D Also, my first born for an Ardyn DLC! Hell, I'd even settle for a complete game. Just make it happen.
Your story on the first video has blown my mind completely, u left me looking slack jawed
Pez you're freaking insane... and I LOVE IT!!! XD
I wish all of these story details were more overt in the game itself though. I hope Square puts this much thought into the story of Final Fantasy 16, but represent it visually in the game. Keep up the videos buddy!
Ardyn is incredible, I love seeing these theories about his backstory, keep it going and maybe we can hope for a dlc, thanks Pes!
just discovered your channel! binge watches three or four videos now amd I'm losing my mind! I'm developing such a deeper appreciation for the game now! and a great appreciation for the work you do to flesh out these theory videos. I'm way too stupid to do this in depth research. hopefully some more dlc will tell us more. btw, can anyone tell me where that footage of Noctis in the dessert is from? i don't remember seeing that anywhere
This whole video completely changed my view on the story line and I actually believe that it's really what happened. I truly appreciate all your theories though because they show that square didn't give up on us and they gave us a really deep story 😭😭
i am completely mind blown how on earth do you come up with these theories and actually prove it to be correct while they give you mere scraps to go on
This changes everything, I knew there was a reason I loved this version of Ifirit. Such a tragic story, literally can't believe how masterfully they hid that Eos Wing/Ifirit Horn in plain sight. We need an episode Ardyn!
loved these 2 theory videos they were awesome thanks pez :-)
I love your channel man,where do you find your music? I love the song at the beginning of this video, What Is It? Sounds like Its from XIII-2.
Just beat the game glad I found this video! Now is there one of you doing a story-time by reading the reddit post for us :)
Love your videos man keep it up
damn your theories are mind blowingits unbelievable how much sense all of this makes
you are the best. thank you for solving this out. you simply made final fantasy 15 great again in my heart. thanks to you
This is fabulous. I really love how excited you are that you were right. It's great to see some of these theories proven right
I've been watching some of you theory video and maaaaaan !!! Amazing analysing work !!
I guess I don't understand every single word you say 'cause it's not my native language but for what I understand, it's mindblowing ! Subscribed !
I've always thought that really few things in the FF saga was left to chance. It's just a shame they're SUCH A HUGE part untold in FFXV
what if the flouret family came from one of the twins but didnt inherit the immortality?
monkeyswag57 YO PEZ READ THAT PERSON'S COMMENT
monkeyswag57 Yea didn't the Trident of the Oracle say belong to the Oracles blood line.
That's why I am strongly opinionated about Izunia being Ardyn's son rather than his twin. I think his twin started the Fleuret bloodline and was probably a woman, since the Fleurets are a female dominated line.
Only the Caelums and Fleurets out of every other human have the divine powers of taming, summoning and subduing the gods, healing the starscourge and also wield royal arms since her trident is one, and we also get royal arms from the Fleuret queens like the Star of the Rogue, hence why I think Ardyn's twin is a woman and started that line. Even Pez mentions the star there.
This was very well done!
First off, gotta say sorry I've missed a couple lifestreams, had to make a trip for a few days and was busy. Now, after I've spent most of the day cleaning my exploded brain off the walls thanks to this vid, I have to say you keep doing better and better vids Pez. Bloody beautiful! This is the coolest backstory stuff ever, and definitely enhances how I look at 15 so much. Will never look at Ardyn the same way, nor the Rock of Ravatogh the same way. My question is this: does what you present about Ardyn in this video finally push him to your no. 1 villain, or is he still behind Caius on your list? Side note: perhaps we could see some of these developments of Ardyn's character in the Ignis dlc, maybe he explains his side of things briefly.
HEY PEZ!!!!! You're awesome dude! All I wanted to say :P
It's amazing how you noticed all this stuffs. I'd play the game 3 or 4 time, and am doubtful I'd notice all these hidden message(s). Good job Pez!
who the hell dares to give you a dislike??
look.. even your theories weren´t correct they match, and I strongly believe you are completely right.
I´ll like you to know that i never see american/english youtubers and you are the first one i´m seeing. Even my english is quite good, i just get mad cause i don´t understand everything you say, and i´ll love to hear your theories in my mother thongue.
I´ve been watching many videos you´ve made and i have to say that You are such a great investigator, keep like this and doing this kind of videos, they are the personified quallyty. Here you have a new fan and suscriptor, thanks for your videos.
I love you so much for these videos Peasant you're the GOAT 😭
I love your enthusiasm, man !
In the meantime, at Square Enix headquarters: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU peasant! why didn't we think of this!!
While with many games I enjoy their stories and then after additional play through I pick up more things and see deeper story, I have to say Bravo. This seems exceptionally legit to me and adds so much more depth and meaning to the story. I really hope they decide to add content to explain this for those who cannot connect the dots as easy nor really wish to hunt for it. I didn't finish final dungeon but I saw the symbolism and knew there was some extremely deep meaning to it, I could also see that specific characters were involved I just didn't have lines connecting them. So thank you for finding the deeper meaning and explaining it to us. Thanks to all those who had a hand in it. It is really cool sometimes to see people(artists, writers, and designers) that create something so deep and so massive that it takes vast amounts of digging or exceptional attention to detail for it to be brought out to light.
i need a condensed video of all your findings man. cause now its just bits and pieces, and im so confused!
Where can I find the sung version of "Terra" you used at the end?
Also, I want to take a minute to thank you. You have cleared so much up and made FFXV a more complete and clear story for me than what Square did. Strong work.
Charles Wilkins do you know the intro song?
This is BLEW my mind out of the water!!!! I wish square enix would have flushed out the story more like this with cutscenes. Love the video, Pez!!!
I agree, I want a dlc on ardyn's back story, I wanna see the supposed betrayal that befell him. I wanna see how he transforms himself from Ardyn Lucis Caelum to Ardyn Izunia.
Bro... fucking good work! Your energy is amazing :)
This is great! Although I'm not sure Genji necessarily means twins. This might tie into Gladio's DLC coming up, but let me mention something that popped up in my mind. For any Japanese person or Japanese history buff, the word Genji will remind them of Minamoto no Yoshitsune, the tragic hero of 13th century Japan, younger brother of Minamoto no Yoritomo, the first Shogun of the Kamakura era (really, the first Shogun ever). Genji refers to anybody from the Minamoto family line. Historically, Gilgamesh (since FFV, if I remember correctly) has often had the Genji armor series in the Final Fantasy series (that had Gilgamesh appear in any form). I may be mistaken about this part, but as far as I can remember, this seems to be the case. Gilgamesh seems to be modeled after Benkei, the warrior monk, who was Yoshitsune's faithful follower/bodyguard. We know that FFXV's Gilgamesh is the first Lucian king's "Shield" (at least in the Japanese trailer). Both Benkei and Yoshitsune eventually are killed by Yoritomo, as the younger brother became so popular among the people, and was also a favorite of the Emperor. I feel this is another hint towards the theory that Ardyn and Izunia were twins (or at least brothers), where Ardyn was likely the younger brother, who commanded respect and loved by the people. Izunia gets jealous, and wipes him out from history, and becomes King. It's also reminiscent of the Cain and Abel story. I don't know. Thoughts?
Mr Peasant, while I must say I enjoy your Videos very much (yes, also this one here), I have to include English isn't my native language but the understanding is nearly fluent. But this time, your heavy accent really brought me to my limit. Unfortunately, it was impossible to follow the last part of the Video where you was talking in a near ecstatic state. I really need a summary of the last part, but, as I see now, there are a lot of Links and it seems like there is the specific Text you spoke of (the one with 15.000 words) included. I think, I'm gonna turn on Subtitles in the next Video :D
Best wishes, Sophy
Oh, by the way:
There is, in most of your Videos, an intro with a Remix of a Final Fantasy X Song. Can anyone tell me where I can find the full version of it?
You made me like Ardyn more then the game did, great videos man, love listening. A ardyn dlc would be awesome
Hey, awesome videos :D I agree with the most. Had a lot of similiar ideas and it is wonderful to listen to your interpretations. You might have answered it already but I would like to know, what you think, that happens in the end with the demons. Bc when you are in army's dungeon there is this story about the demons being humans, so does noctis heal them or kill them? Looking forward for your answer. And about ardyn's hair, I thought they choose the haircolour bc violet is a colour of jealousy as far as I know:)
Hey dude could you link the in- and outro songs? Really dig those remixes! Love your videos! :)
Just wondering where did you get the other "dream like cutscenes" of noctis on your videos. Only dream cutscene that I remember that was on the game is that when he had the gun and fighting magitek troops
Hi there PEZ! I am a new subscriber! I have been following all the videos you made for FFXV. It is amazing that you came up with all of your theories (please ignore the sarcastic face my profile pic has). But there is one thing that I want to ask. What happened to Crow in Kingsglaive? I know that she was assassinated and it was proven by the dude who shot Nyx at the pre ending battle, but her face made me question things. You know that when Ardyn got this mood in him his face goes scary and drips black goo and I saw it in her dead face too. Some people I have asked have said it was the mascara but damn how much mascara can a girl put on that it stained till her chin level while crying?! Could it be starscourge or something else or maybe just a little detail overestimated? Anyway I think it was worth researching for.
''and also he changed his hair..THAT is so deep!'' well hair styles are really important after all haha. Thanks for explaining everything man I never would have come up with all those theories myself :o
I love this kind of video. Thanks man.
Watching this two years later is crazy how correct you was
I have stayed up way to long watching these videos, but it’s so worth it. My brain slightly can not handle this amount of mind blown-ness though lol.
Also I need a game just dedicated to Ardyn because there is a lot going on there.
When you asked why only thirteen lucii made me think of the armiger weapons and how each is tied to one of the lucii I also remember at the start of the game they make reference to some being "lost" or possibly destroyed. Maybe there is a life link between the spirit and the weapon. One other thing about ardyn ever since I beat the story and with ignis dlc I think ardyn pulled an orphan and made himself a warrior strong enough to kill him. Maybe his vengence could only be complete with his own death as well. The final trace of their gifts being wiped away.
Haha cheers peasant through these vids I am back in love with ff15! I believe the free story dlc(a little with ignis too) will drop all this as we gotta wait ages for it.
amazing video pez!
Pez, I want to know the name of the song at the end, sounds like "You're Not Alone" from FF9, but with lyrics. Thanks for the video, it blowed my mind, I want to play this game so badly :D
Charon's ferry and the underworld theory certainly explains ffxv's fixation on coins.
and you find oracle ascension coin in pitios too
Great vid once again !!
About only 13 kings of lucii
I thought in the game cor says "only 13 known arms" for the armiger weapons. Could that imply that there is more they were just never discovered. Just a thought
How did you even come up with these theories!? Do you take notes while playing? I forget half of the plot of a game after a week!
I need an Ardyn centered game
that would be very nice. something like what they did with ff VII with zack where they gave him his own game. but this would capture us more because this would be a game about the antagonist from a very HEAVY lore based game. even though they probably wont do it, its nice to dream.
Great vid, Pez :DD How have you been?
I never did much looking, but outside the passage in the Cosmogony Book, is there any other mention of Nadir?
I would love to have more backstory added to FFXV all about Ardyn! That's something I would go crazy over haha! By the way.... This theory... Mind = Blown!!
Pez, YOU ARE A BLOODY GENIUS!! :D
Man, these theory video you made are amazing! I've just rewatched most of it, and almost everything still quite possible, even with the Astral's story being revealed... I just cannot wait till Episode Ardyn releases (god knows when)!!! It should answer at least some of our question, maybe confirm some theories!!!