The most powerful Mac Pro 5,1 ever?

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  • Coming in as the second most powerful Mac model ever, this is my new editing rig. (Only out preformed by the iMac Pro based on CPU performance)
    I am also going to be doing some small upgrades to it, making it one of the most powerful Mac Pros ever!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 632

  • @zeronine-eightyfour
    @zeronine-eightyfour 5 років тому +413

    The last well made Apple system imo. modluar, high end, great build quality.

    • @billB101
      @billB101 5 років тому +23

      Why or why can't Apple make new machines like this any more. It just sucks. Hopefully the new Modular Pro mac ( if it ever appears ) will be something like this but I'd bet money that the SSD will be soldiered to a motherboard with a T2 chip on so it'll be defunct ( or hugely expensive to repair ) after three years of use once the Applecare runs out. I can imagine it's going to cost the earth too. Here's hoping though.

    • @OgTitouan
      @OgTitouan 5 років тому +11

      @@billB101 Also waiting for the new Mac pro but I'm pretty sure it'll start at like 5000USD for outdated specs, like apple like to do those days : /

    • @Ivlodded
      @Ivlodded 5 років тому +5

      @@billB101 Because they want you to buy a new system instead of replacing damaged/outdated parts.

    • @JM-ic9yx
      @JM-ic9yx 5 років тому +2

      Rip modular macs. Hopefully apple will follow through with their Mac Pro reboot promises

    • @NeverlandSystemZor
      @NeverlandSystemZor 5 років тому +4

      @@OgTitouan It IS outrageous and for the same money, you get a TON MORE out of a PC now- back when THOSE Macs were made, for the money they were hands down the best on the market. I hate they did this, too.

  • @HughJeffreys
    @HughJeffreys  5 років тому +51

    UPDATE:
    Handoff started working perfectly.
    The previous solder job was very poor and weak so I resoldered the bluetooth data wires on the adapter board and now the bluetooth is working and not showing "not available"
    But I was still getting mouse lag and my AirPods would cut in and out, after removing the USB 3 card the issue has gone away.
    USB 3 devices can interfere with bluetooth and as the antenna for the bluetooth in located in the PCI slots it was causing this lagging issue.
    So now I have to find a better USB 3 card to install into the Mac Pro, but at least my bluetooth is working again.

    • @rockostiffredi4276
      @rockostiffredi4276 5 років тому

      Hugh, Just wondering if you can remember which number wires went to which pin on the new wi-fi card, as I cant run the mini cd to find out. I realise J3 is the bluetooth antenna, but what number wire (1/2/3), does J0/J1/J2 connect to. Hard to read as your camera isn't focused enough.

    • @rockostiffredi4276
      @rockostiffredi4276 5 років тому

      Don't worry Hugh, I sorted it out. Sequential 1=J0, 2-J1, 3-J2

    • @CharmandrigoGG
      @CharmandrigoGG 5 років тому +1

      for the Graphics Card you should know that Apple and Nvidia doesn't go well together and with this the Nvidia drivers are not being provided by apple anymore, since they had many problems in the past, only AMD cards have updated and more stable drivers on Mac

    • @stephenfgdl
      @stephenfgdl 5 років тому

      NVIDIA can't update Drivers anymore on Mojave

    • @MikhaelLamont86
      @MikhaelLamont86 3 роки тому

      if you haven't figure out the antenna you can make an external, i have done that and my headphones stay connected and play perfectly when i more than 50ft away
      I used : RF U.FL(IPEX/IPX) Mini PCI to RP-SMA Female Pigtail Antenna Wi-Fi Low Loss Coaxial Cable 1.13mm
      drilled a hole in one of the metal plates that cover the PCI slots on the back of the tower, secured the above mentioned wire to the plate and screwed a wifi antenna on the male end.,

  • @RetroPlayer93
    @RetroPlayer93 5 років тому +53

    I love my 2010 mac pro. I just added a 1TB SSD and a MSI Radeon RX 580 to it.

    • @RetroPlayer93
      @RetroPlayer93 5 років тому +1

      C Rizzy it handles borderlands 2 on max settings at 60fps no problem! Thanks to the SSD and 64 GB of ram that I have, it handles my virtual machines with no problems at all!

    • @garryfreemyer7187
      @garryfreemyer7187 5 років тому

      InvisibleWreck5 boot screen?

    • @samg7215
      @samg7215 5 років тому

      @@RetroPlayer93 what kind of ram did you get? PC8500 DDR3 ECC 1066MHz 240 Pin?

    • @thenistthedev
      @thenistthedev 4 роки тому

      @@garryfreemyer7187 rx580 on macpro doesn't have boot screen....

  • @vecchiarelli7928
    @vecchiarelli7928 5 років тому +11

    The 5,1 was definitely one of the best Mac Pros and its modularity, along with a hailstorm of complaints by pro users, is the reason that Apple is making the 7,1 Mac Pro upgradeable. I have the same 3.46GHz 12-core machine but mine is sporting an NVIDIA Quadro P4000 workstation class graphics card, two 500GB SSD's, one 1TB SSD, and one 2TB SSD. It's also about to receive 96GB of RAM running in triple channel mode. Taking up two of my PCIe slots are Sonnet Allegro Pro USB 3.0 cards and the graphics card is driving a 49" 5120x1440 display, two 1920x1080 touchscreen displays, and one 43" 3840x2160 display. The final PCIe slot is reserved for a MAGMA ExpressBox 7 PCIe expansion chassis holding 6 UAD-2 plugin accelerator cards. It's a beast and should run my sessions for many years to come!

    • @gerald4027
      @gerald4027 5 років тому +4

      Should be fast enough to computate the speed of 2 tree frogs humping.

    • @michaelbalkam
      @michaelbalkam 2 роки тому

      Ah nice dude I did the same only difference is that mine is using the NVIDIA Titan X Maxwell Edition.

  • @highvoltage12v
    @highvoltage12v 5 років тому +269

    Hello, I have 3 Mac Pro 5,1's and there are a few recommendations I'd like to make for you. First when running the Bluetooth cable you really should remove the CPU tray and run it underneath. This will improve Bluetooth signal. Next you can't upgrade to Mojave yet (Nvidia GPU) but you should download the installer and let it run a firmware update. Doing so will allow you to install NVMe drives into your PCI-E slot making the Mac pro even faster than before. I recommend the 970 Evo/Pro or the HP ex920 NVMe SSD. Other than those two, good job and good luck with the Mac Pro 5,1.

    • @derami0
      @derami0 5 років тому +4

      highvoltage12v why do you have 3

    • @highvoltage12v
      @highvoltage12v 5 років тому +17

      @@derami0 They were bought with various issues. One had a bad ATI 5770 so it bootlooped. The other one needed a power supply and the 3rd one was a 2009 which the campus considered obsolete.

    • @cooperyeeto8847
      @cooperyeeto8847 5 років тому +2

      The Web Drivers for the 980 for Mojave should be out soon

    • @AlphaFox78
      @AlphaFox78 5 років тому +3

      @@cooperyeeto8847 Where did you see that?

    • @cooperyeeto8847
      @cooperyeeto8847 5 років тому

      AlphaFox78 There was a web page released on the Nvidia website that got taken down quickly also there are rumours on tonymacx86

  • @_Midori
    @_Midori 5 років тому +45

    Ah yes. A great way to end the year, watching a really good Hugh Jeffrey’s video.

  • @maxhartung97
    @maxhartung97 5 років тому +52

    Upgrade the GPU to a VEGA 64 sau 56 and you have native support in macOS !

    • @enby-girl5020
      @enby-girl5020 5 років тому +5

      Apple used to have NVIDIA graphics cards in Macs so the 980 is natively supported.

    • @SebastiaanSwinkels
      @SebastiaanSwinkels 5 років тому +4

      @@enby-girl5020 Up until High Sierra yes. There are no NVidia drivers for any NVidia GPU for Mojave.

    • @gnolls
      @gnolls 5 років тому

      @@SebastiaanSwinkels This is strictly not true, for example, all retina MacBook's with dual graphics up until the 2015 model have Nvidia GPU's and all are supported by Majove.

    • @ShawnBrezny
      @ShawnBrezny 5 років тому +7

      Vega 64 and 56 max power draw is a bit too high and could cause power issues with the stock Mac Pro power setup. With the Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1 you can only get 225 watts for the video card (PCIe slot gives 75watts, two PCIe cables are 75 each, for total of 225 watts). Vega 64 max power draw exceeds 225 watts. I've seen some games hit upwards of 400 watts. Pretty sure that will cause something to overheat/over draw, and probably cause system to shut down or behave badly. You can google "Vega 64 max power draw" and see this in various bench marks. Hope this helps.

    • @ShawnBrezny
      @ShawnBrezny 5 років тому

      I have a 1080 in mine, no issues so far but I know that I am at peak for the max wattage draw from pcie slot and cables. I won't use SATA for the gpu power draw personally... even though you can draw power from SATA, it's not the best place to draw a ton of power from, and many times the gauge of wire people use to draw power from SATA isn't adequate for the power that will be needed. The SATA power draw could result in melted wires and/or fire (plenty of crypto miners have stories of rigs experiencing this). It is probably depending on which games or applications you run, my original point was focused on some modern top games that will push the Vega 64 to very high watts at peak. So at this point I would say YMMV and tread carefully.

  • @84legit
    @84legit 5 років тому +6

    The Steve Jobs era Mac 🙌🏾💪🏾. I’m sooo loving my . I would still love thunderbolt but I found other was for my music production set up

  • @joshuapinter
    @joshuapinter 5 років тому +2

    Got the exact same setup. Except the video card is 980Ti and RAM is 128GB. Also got the Bluetooth and Wifi card installed and setup properly. It's an insane beast and can only be matched by the iMac Pro.

  • @nightlifeking
    @nightlifeking 5 років тому +8

    Enjoy my 5,1 daily.
    2 x Quad-Core Xeon 2.4Ghz
    32GB Ram
    SSD Drives
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 With 3 1080 Monitors Connected (using active thunderbolt to DVI adapters)
    Beast!

    • @buzrash
      @buzrash 4 роки тому +1

      What are doing with all that power?

  • @s.moorefilms3760
    @s.moorefilms3760 5 років тому +25

    Thats better than the "modern" mac pros.
    Edit he mentioned it later in the video.

  • @PimptatoPCs
    @PimptatoPCs 5 років тому +1

    I got a free Power PC G5 about a month ago and I'm about done with converting it to an x86 machine. Installed an ASRock Z77 mobo, i7 2600K, 16GB of Corsair RAM, and a GTX1060 3GB.

  • @bananasandbass
    @bananasandbass 5 років тому +5

    I have a similar box, only with the single cpu version but same processor and the TI version of the GPU. Gotta get that USB 3.0 going though.
    Next step would be to put NVME flash storage in ;)

  • @ajbatsche5402
    @ajbatsche5402 5 років тому +4

    This is so cool, this is my dream computer!

  • @Spartan720-l3f
    @Spartan720-l3f 5 років тому +6

    apple could have released a slightly updated version while retaining the modularity

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 4 роки тому

    Unbelievable engineering modular designs

  • @Johnsormani
    @Johnsormani 2 роки тому

    I recently got a pair of dual processor cMP's 2 months ago, together with a pair of 27"led cinema displays and one 23" cinema display like you have here. I upgraded the processors and maxed out memory and put a RX580 and a RX560 in them as well. Running big sur and Mojave no problems

  • @shpleb123
    @shpleb123 5 років тому +2

    I had the same issues with bluetooth one mine. I gave up and bought a cheap usb bluetooth adapter and has been working great since

  • @callumedwards4423
    @callumedwards4423 5 років тому +302

    Weird flex but ok

    • @Deadmoney6
      @Deadmoney6 5 років тому +1

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    • @D4RKV3NOM
      @D4RKV3NOM 5 років тому +3

      Mkbhd video reference

    • @charlie4christ536
      @charlie4christ536 5 років тому +7

      (John 14:6) Jesus answered, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but my me."
      Repent and turn to Christ Jesus before it is too late. For after this comes the JUDGMENT. Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life.
      (John 3:16) For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    • @callumedwards4423
      @callumedwards4423 5 років тому +4

      Charlie4Christ um ok...

    • @D4RKV3NOM
      @D4RKV3NOM 5 років тому +3

      @@charlie4christ536 bet you believe in the tooth fairy too huh?

  • @gd515051
    @gd515051 3 роки тому

    Man that Mac Pro is spotless. Bravo

  • @chumcool
    @chumcool 3 роки тому

    I Bet it gets really hot in that room rockin those old Cinema Displays.

  • @commanderts
    @commanderts 5 років тому +2

    Nice setup! You can speed it up a bit if you remove the last RAM-module on each side. The system is designed as tripple channel memory for best performance. At least recognizable in benchmarks... :)

    • @stebansb
      @stebansb 3 роки тому

      This is very interesting! Could you tell me more about this. What kind of performance boost can we expect? Do you have a link with info on how to do it. Not sure what you mean by last ram module on each side.

  • @RageTurtle_Rage
    @RageTurtle_Rage 5 років тому +5

    you should have put the blueray drive on the top

  • @simonecelante7729
    @simonecelante7729 4 роки тому

    I've installed a Samsung SSD 860 EVO on my MacPro5,1 2010. It works perfectly. I have used a Sabrent bay to install it.

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +3

    I like your video about this computer. This is because, I’ve also dreamt of a 12 Core Mac Pro forever.

    • @jasonhaas607
      @jasonhaas607 5 років тому +1

      I bought mine for around $1,300.00 on eBay in 2016!

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +1

      Jason Haas 12 Cores for 1300 in 2016 was a good deal. Congratulations! I am guessing that computer and yourself have grown together?

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +1

      Jose Francisco Medeiros Thank you for this input. I was able to find a 5.1 8 core. I hope to upgrade it soon to those 3.06 or 3.33Ghz, 6 core twin CPUS. Depending on what other upgrades I have before hand will determine which set I pick up. (:

  • @IncApu2025
    @IncApu2025 4 роки тому

    Great man!! Make me wish to perform the same upgrade!!
    I'll keep you posted.

  • @somebodysomeone23
    @somebodysomeone23 2 роки тому

    I remember dreaming of having one of these beasts back when I was in school and had absolutely no reason or need to have one. Now, quite a few years later and quite a few new Apple ‘pro’ products released, this Mac is steal mesmerizing and super cool. So far ahead of its time. PS: it’s sad we can’t take this model to latest chips, gpus, etc. pps: if Apple ever releases a Mac Pro as good as these ones - I’ll definitely get me one… probably there’s higher chance of me dancing on the moon’s surface.

  • @gregorymoreno12
    @gregorymoreno12 4 роки тому

    I bought a 4,1 then flashed the firmware to make it think it’s a 5,1. Added the 3.46 GHZ hex core Xeon, got 32 GB of ECC RAM for only 100 bucks, added a GTX 970, added many hard drives/SSD’s. Got rid of the optical drive, added two SSD’s in the optical bays running raid 0 for Mac OS, have a single 512 SSD for boot camp, it’s still a beast, I love it.
    I also have Mac fan control and since there are different compartments you can control the fans accordingly, graphics card getting warm, increase the PCIE fan, cpu and ram hot, increase those fans, and the heat sink for the CPU even has a “booster” fan as it’s called in Mac fan control, that moves extra air on the heat sink itself
    Edit: The CPU I put in it was a W3690 I believe

  • @AL.N-music
    @AL.N-music 5 років тому

    That case is such a sight for sore eyes. Awesome enclosure, very robust build.

  • @strangerdanger2553
    @strangerdanger2553 5 років тому +1

    Nice vid Hugh, keep it up!

  • @goclunker
    @goclunker 5 років тому

    awesome video. I did this with my g4 towers, but this time around I think i will just build a monster hackintosh

  • @cenewton3221
    @cenewton3221 3 роки тому

    March 2021... my 2009/5,1 MPro: 12 core, 3.46 Ghz, (both CPUs delidded) 128GB ram, 2x 2TB NVRM PCI duplexed, 4x2TB SSD RAID5 internal storage, PCI 3.1 card w/external 18 TB RAID5 for backups, I'm considering soon upgrading my internal drives to 4x4TB SSD. PCI USB 3.1(2) provides high speed to the external 4x4TB external RAID5 array. She's imperfect in this day and age, 12 years later, but she's the most amazing machine I've ever owned for her expandability, and capability.

  • @wernerlehmann8264
    @wernerlehmann8264 5 років тому

    I want this MacPro too...It is simply Marvelous.

  • @josephadams2913
    @josephadams2913 5 років тому

    I love working on computers and I like what you did to your

  • @lauratiso
    @lauratiso 5 років тому

    Saying from my experience: iMac 2011 Broadcom card works fine with Bluetooth and Wifi in this computer. Others, for some reason, works randomly, or freezes as yours. There's some issues with Atheros cards too, Broadcom is preferred (which was one you found in Mac 2011).

  • @paulkerry8915
    @paulkerry8915 5 років тому

    I had a 2009 Mac Pro back in 2009 it was an 8 core they were insanely expensive it had 24gb of ram, all the graphics cards were Mac flashed graphics cards right up until the last one even made and then I sold it for a 2013 Mac Pro.

  • @CharmandrigoGG
    @CharmandrigoGG 5 років тому

    This is a very useful video, in the last year I bought a Mac Pro 4,1 which can be upgraded to 5,1 with the required parts and bootrom upgrade, with this video I kinda got informed about what other parts I can add to this powerful tower xP

  • @JamesMayer125
    @JamesMayer125 5 років тому

    Well made video Hugh!!!

  • @generationsoccertv
    @generationsoccertv 5 років тому

    @Hugh Jeffreys My name is Eric from Montreal (Quebec, Canada). We recently upgraded a Mac Pro 5.1 2012, (from 4 cores to a 3,46 12 cores), with 48 megs of server ram, plus a 500 GB SSD and a RX 580 8Gb. It works fine on Sierra. What does not work are the 3 Western Digital Black 4TB HDD. I bought them to do a Raid 0. When I restart, they disappear (in raid 0 config or individually). They also don’t show up in Disk Utility. Every time, I have to shut down, take them out and then put them back. If I restart, they disappear again. Even System Profiler don’t see them. I tried with a Seagate drive and it works. I tried the Blacks one by one in different slots, and it does the same thing. Sometimes they are there and sometimes they disappear. I saw that it happened to many Mac Pro 4.1 and 5.1 users. Do you have any idea why it does that? Have you ever heard of it? (Btw, I called at WD, and they have no idea what to do…). I need performance drives. Do you recommend a particular brand? Thanks in advance, Eric:)

    • @danw1955
      @danw1955 5 років тому

      @Generation Soccer - It's a firmware problem with not just the WD Black series, but others as well, all the way down to 2 TB. It's not just a Mac-only issue either, as this has been a problem on some PC's as well. My advice would be to go with a Seagate Barracuda Pro, as they seem to work with pretty much everything. They're available in sizes up to 14TB.😉

  • @RyderRipps
    @RyderRipps 5 років тому

    similar machine, still better than any other mac since.. kinda insane.. 10 years old

  • @Mark33563
    @Mark33563 5 років тому

    I love my 5,1. Original owner which came with a 1TB drive, 32GB ram, 2x 2.4GHz quad-core Xeon processors. I have since upgrade to 8TB drive plus several others, 128 Gb ram and 2x3.46GHz 6-core Xeon processors. Video card so I can use Mojave is next.
    I run a virtual machine on my mac to bridge the windoze gap (I have XP, 7, 8.1 and 10 vms) as I have some software that is only available on windows.

  • @stefanrockefeller7590
    @stefanrockefeller7590 5 років тому +20

    Where's Arianna?

    • @Kim-Jong-Un-4
      @Kim-Jong-Un-4 5 років тому +1

      I miss her too...

    • @lgrsi
      @lgrsi 5 років тому +1

      He said on Twitter that he doesn't support her anymore

    • @ItsGerYT
      @ItsGerYT 5 років тому +1

      Lance Gisbert Siapco what did he say, I can’t see to find it anywhere on his twitter

    • @JohannvanderZee
      @JohannvanderZee 5 років тому +1

      She was on his Apple Watch

    • @cooperyeeto8847
      @cooperyeeto8847 5 років тому +1

      @@JohannvanderZee and the poster

  • @jameo3606
    @jameo3606 5 років тому

    I’m very happy with my 4,1, it’s an absolute beast. ❤️

  • @benjaminpeternorris
    @benjaminpeternorris 5 років тому +1

    I just wish there was a way to get Thunderbolt working on these machines - then I'd be sorely tempted to do the same.

    • @Rhythmattica
      @Rhythmattica 5 років тому +1

      There is.... Believe it or not.... Though a workaround, it has to be a particular Gigabyte board, you have to boot into windows natively (bootcamp) to handshake and see the hardware, then soft boot into OSX...
      Theres a video we a guy using a tb UAD Apollo !!!
      Now to wait for some code genius to make a patch not having to boot into Windows....

  • @dcthornton
    @dcthornton 5 років тому

    I disconnected the internal BT card and added a USB BT 4.0 adapter connected to an internal USB 3.0 card via USB 3.0 cable. BT accessories now pair up without hiccups.

  • @maxwellj7299
    @maxwellj7299 5 років тому +1

    "Well the time that passed has brought a change of heart
    And now you confess that you need me
    And now you release what you're feeling
    But how is this supposed to ever be the same
    Oh it's a shame
    It's a shame
    Oh it's a shame."
    "You got the best of me
    I said love got the best of me
    Saying you got the best of me
    And I'm afraid it will never be the same."
    I'm sorry but I'm a fan I can't help it lol.

  • @danielgartin6993
    @danielgartin6993 5 років тому

    That is one powerful Mac, nice one dude

  • @MiGujack3
    @MiGujack3 5 років тому

    This thing is way better looking than anything offered by Apple right now.
    I would love to do a custom build in that case.

  • @nil0bject
    @nil0bject 5 років тому

    re: bluetooth. it could be heat or as mentioned by highvoltage12v, it could be the antenna cable. try a usb bluetooth dongle so you actually use the usb 2.0 ports for something :D

  • @MikeDancy
    @MikeDancy 5 років тому +1

    I have one of these sitting at my office. I was thinking of putting a 512GB SSD into it and using it to edit my FCPx videos instead of my Macbook Pro

  • @TheSilentjoker666
    @TheSilentjoker666 5 років тому

    Great work on your content I always enjoy watching it buddy

  • @WillCate
    @WillCate 5 років тому

    GREAT video -- I also have a MP 5,1 with 12 cores at 3.46 GHz. AMD Radion RX-580 card for metal-support and OS 10.14 compatibility. I need to do the wifi/bluetooth upgrade however, as the unit's factory bluetooth reception is very poor.

  • @moviestudioland
    @moviestudioland 5 років тому +1

    Hugh, Great video. I just put an RX590 into my 5,1 and upgraded it to Mojave. You might have the video problem resolved with the RX590? The drivers are all in Mojave unlike the Nvidia cards. I don't have the fancy boot screen but I am OK I suppose without it. Cheers, Jeffrey

  • @warrenbinder3612
    @warrenbinder3612 5 років тому +29

    I installed a usb 3.0 card in my Mac Pro 4,1 and my Bluetooth started to act up. It turns out that the usb 3.0 card was using too much power, taking away from the Bluetooth card.
    Hope this helps!

    • @HughJeffreys
      @HughJeffreys  5 років тому +5

      It can cause interference. I removed mine to see if that fixed it. Unfortunately didnt :(

    • @jameo3606
      @jameo3606 5 років тому

      It’s quite hard to find a decent USB 3 card without the need for power and at a reasonable price, still on the hunt for one with my 4,1.

    • @drsquidd
      @drsquidd 5 років тому

      Similar issue with crappy Chinese usb3 card and Magic Trackpad connection acting up. Took it out for now.

    • @diamonddave2622
      @diamonddave2622 5 років тому

      @@HughJeffreys I had the same bluetooth interference problem with my MacPro 3,1 and a Sonnet USB 3.0 card - squiffy Magic Mouse operation. I went to my local supermarket and bought a cheap wireless mouse

    • @adamsaint2890
      @adamsaint2890 5 років тому

      @@jameo3606 Don't be worried about going for a card that needs power. It's very very easy to route power from the optical drives

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser 5 років тому +1

    I’d love to have one of these, but with all modern guts.

  • @santosurbina3380
    @santosurbina3380 5 років тому

    I build my 2010 Mac Pro from parts I found across multiple online stores like eBay and anyway as soon as I get a graphics card and ram it should be good to go

  • @24vignettes94
    @24vignettes94 5 років тому

    I have read that the Mac pro utilizes three channel RAM, and therefore using the fourth dimm slot on each CPU can be counterproductive.

  • @Kyrad777
    @Kyrad777 5 років тому

    I have a 12 core ( dual 5690's ) 3.46 Ghz system with a GTX1080 Founders edition ( Not flashed, Off the shelf ), 12TB Internal raid, 4 TB single drive, UsB3 card with 4 individual controllers and a SSD System drive, so it could be upped a bit.

  • @georgesenda1952
    @georgesenda1952 4 роки тому +2

    Links to where you bought the cards would have been nice.

    • @robertlopez936
      @robertlopez936 4 роки тому

      look for mac flashed cards on ebay

    • @jmlapedis49
      @jmlapedis49 4 роки тому

      He probably removed the link to the Wifi/bluetooth kit because he is having a lot of problems with it and does not recommend using that one. As of today (July 6, 2020), the one that I have seen on most other Mac Pro 4,1/5,1 upgrade videos is this one: "OSXWiFi Mac Pro 2009 (4,1) and Mac Pro 2010-2012 (5,1) - Handoff and Continuity Broadcom BCM94360CD 802.11 A/B/G/N/AC with Bluetooth 4.0 macOS Yosemite Mojave Catalina - 10.10+ Upgrade Kit"

  • @KoupeMusic
    @KoupeMusic 5 років тому +73

    It's data not data.
    Hehe you read it two different ways

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence 5 років тому

    best mac pro case ever from apple by miles!

  • @derGerhart
    @derGerhart 5 років тому +2

    Hey. Amazing build. I kind of have the same chilhood dream and its nice to see that a setup such as the one im thinking of would still work in 2019(or 2018). Have fun with it!
    PS: If Apple finally makes things right this year ill get into the ecosystem with a build of my own!

  • @Natorisama
    @Natorisama 5 років тому

    So, that “upgradability” is just gives you a fancy looking hackintosh, with easier OSX installation… Like, problems is almost the same as if you builded a custom PC.
    It makes sense only you get it dirty cheap, like below 300-500$.

  • @adamcdx
    @adamcdx 5 років тому

    Though the GTX 980 is more powerful than an AMD RX 580 and with used GPU prices being amazing currently, I think buying an 8GB RX 580 is one of the best upgrades you can do for seamless support with future updates. I stopped Hackintoshing my desktop with a GTX 1070 due to this issue.
    Also getting a PCI to m.2 adapter to install a NVME SSD such as a Samsung 970 Evo would make the difference pretty much unnoticeable in terms of general responsiveness compared to the brand new models because of the crazy read and write speeds.
    I'm sure you're well aware of all of this, but just think the push to get these two upgrades is worth it.

  • @dbvetter7485
    @dbvetter7485 3 роки тому

    The drive sleds are different in drive position also on the 4,1 5,1 compaired to the 1,1,1,2,1,3

  • @BrianBoniMakes
    @BrianBoniMakes 5 років тому

    Nice video. I've done a similar upgrade for my main audio recording studio Mac Pro. Except I got an 8GB AMD Sapphire RX580 Pulse video card mostly because it is totally compatible and needs no flash or special drivers and just works for everything including boot and sleep out of the box. Then I got a Rocket 4 port USB 3 card, this card and the Sonnet Pro have 4 USB drivers chips and appear as 4 USB cards and not as one channel with a hub and 4 ports like yours. I don't do wireless in the studio due to past problems with the noise so I pulled the stock wireless card, wired is faster anyway. Your stock drive connectors don't offer SATA3, that's why for a SSD I went with a OWC OWC Accelsior E2 which includes ports for two eSATA drives.

  • @Rudraiya
    @Rudraiya 5 років тому

    Nice 🔥 Jeff

  • @Vekays
    @Vekays 5 років тому +2

    I have this exact Mac, but a 2TB HDD instead of 4TB :)

  • @3ALEGIONS
    @3ALEGIONS 5 років тому

    Just upgraded: Here are the details:
    Mac Pro Intel X5670 2.93 MHz (12 cores) Mac OS X 64 Scores : SC: 2718 MC: 22876

    • @tomernst8595
      @tomernst8595 5 років тому

      geekbench 4? 5?

    • @3ALEGIONS
      @3ALEGIONS 5 років тому

      @@tomernst8595 that was for Geekbench 4 - For Geekbench 5 it's 576 and 5747

    • @3ALEGIONS
      @3ALEGIONS 5 років тому

      Planning to upgrade CPUs to X5690, RAM and Graphic Card soon :)

  • @PiotrMajewski
    @PiotrMajewski 5 років тому

    I will give you a good (tested idea) for storage.
    1. Put system ssd into top cd slot.
    2. Put 12tb hdd into bottom cd slot and partition it 8tb and 4tb. (or 10tb hdd to 8/2).
    3. Make 4/2tb partition a time machine.
    4. put 4x2tb hdd into standard bays. Make them software raid 0 in disk utility (will be as fast as ssd - about 500/500).
    5. create a cron script that will backup with rsync this 8tb raid to 8tb partition every 5 or 15minutes excluding any cache folders.
    You will have 8tb „ssd” that is backed and in case of raid failure you will lost at most 15min of work.
    Attach 2 „dumb” external cases (4x) to esata or usb3 pcie card and put there large hdds for completed work. eSata is slightly better for working with severall hdds even though it’s 3Gbps and usb3 is 5Gbps.
    I suggest to put into cases pairs of live/backup large hdds distributed to separate cases instead of raid - Rebuilding raid lasts ages, software raid is not as stable as hardware and hardware raid would take one pcie port.
    Create simillar cron to backup those too.
    This system works great - and time machine saved my ass 2 times when system crashed after power failure.

  • @Steadyawake
    @Steadyawake 5 років тому

    Good job!

  • @ngillam01
    @ngillam01 5 років тому

    Nice informative video with some good upgrades. I would mount your SSD in an OWC Accelsoir to use the PCi-e lanes as opposed to SATA 2 ports ( I think MacPro 5.1 has just SATA2 for the upper disk bays) Although an NVMe would really make em fly.

  • @wickeRstick
    @wickeRstick 5 років тому

    Liked the second I saw someone using driveDx

  • @davidgaboda1440
    @davidgaboda1440 5 років тому +1

    I'm more a PC guy but those specs are awsome

  • @minims
    @minims 2 роки тому

    HDVR+ hard drive icons!

  • @bassdropper1116
    @bassdropper1116 5 років тому

    i do have same CPUS but it was custom build :D. For the gpu i went with GTX 1080.

  • @rafaelappleseed8140
    @rafaelappleseed8140 5 років тому

    Nice Hugh

  • @Dylanfitgoals
    @Dylanfitgoals 5 років тому +5

    Your the best you tuber ever!!!!!!

  • @dr.mikeybee
    @dr.mikeybee 5 років тому

    That's a smart purchase if you want a mac. I still have a cheese grater Mac Pro, but I don't use it anymore. My i7 4790 Linux system is easier on my eyes because it's so customizable.

  • @AlphaFox78
    @AlphaFox78 5 років тому +5

    Install a RX480, 580 or Vega card for native mac drivers support although you will lose the boot screen.
    The benchmark numbers you listed is multi core performance, the single core is quite poor. you can increase this by removing one stick of ram from each CPU bank, its triple memory architecture so if you install 4 sticks per slot it actually runs slower. if you can live with a little less ram the CPU score will go up to around 3000 single thread.

    • @StefanHolmes
      @StefanHolmes 5 років тому +1

      You definitely want a tight boot screen. Loose ones are no good.

    • @AlphaFox78
      @AlphaFox78 5 років тому

      VideoCommenter based on the bad blood between nvidia and apple, we may never see new drivers from nvidia.

  • @Randyyobio
    @Randyyobio 5 років тому

    If apple made another tower like this one with modern specs I know I would definitely buy one. If a company has limited space I'd venture to say that they'd be more likely to spring for iMacs anyways, so they could've just left the Mac Pros the way they were for the enthusiasts. Whenever they do remake the Mac Pro, I at least hope they come out with another apple monitor...Or, really wishful thinking, make the iMacs able to used just as a monitor also.

  • @micaellemos4069
    @micaellemos4069 5 років тому

    Good work

  • @okletsskate
    @okletsskate 5 років тому

    I have one of these nearly maxed out (12 core 3.6 or 3.3 whichever the max clock is with 32gb of ram) I've got a 8GB 580 Nitro + which blocks a slot but it doesn't require driver's as AMD drivers are built in. I use an OWC PCI to Sata card for boot. The four drive bays are in two raid sets. I've got the OSX WiFi card installed. It still performs really well. Definitely recommend AMD as Apple won't approve Nvidia driver's for Mojave

  • @jeremywood5530
    @jeremywood5530 5 років тому

    I agree, my 2009 mac pro running Mojave with 16gb ram and 13.5 TB of storage with SSD is lovely. My Nvidia GTX 660 card is just about running on Mojave but without the dedicated Nvidia drivers (we won't go there). I'm not sure I want a new mac when considering price and specs not to mention upgradeability. I think Majove will be my last OS and possibly my last mac because of apples choices. Wish I could shove a better CPU in my 4.1 but I'm not that brave. Sadly I can't go above 16gb.

    • @the_washi
      @the_washi Рік тому

      you can use patch to install new mac os versions
      i have windows 10 instead

  • @zeddh4d3s67
    @zeddh4d3s67 5 років тому

    damn nice setup

  • @sonicunleashedfan124
    @sonicunleashedfan124 5 років тому

    Hey, I know you can use a USB Y cable to get more power to a device, so technically, you can use more than 1 USB drive on that card.

  • @hikaru-live
    @hikaru-live 5 років тому +2

    AFAIK with the following upgrades the Mac Pro can still be a viable machine in 2019: dual Xeon X5690, 6 sticks of 16GB DDR3-1333 ECC RDIMM, AMD Vega 64 graphics, and a NVMe drive on PCIe adapter card. The 6 sticks of RAM instead of 8 comes from the fact that X5690 uses triple channel memory controller not quad channel, hence with 8 sticks of RAM the machine operates in single channel mode not triple mode. Vega 64 is for Mojave support, and if you already have the machine in High Sierra it should come with an EFI update that implements NVMe support.

    • @iwanskiwi
      @iwanskiwi 5 років тому

      陈北宗 do you run high sierra or mojave from the NVMe drive?

    • @hikaru-live
      @hikaru-live 5 років тому +1

      @@iwanskiwi Mojave.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 5 років тому

      That is nuts. I remember the old Mac Pro being upgradeable and pulling its own weight in 2013 but even now in 2019 they still hold up. These things will probably out last the next Mac Pro model well into late 2025.

    • @hikaru-live
      @hikaru-live 5 років тому +1

      @@markm0000 Only the dual CPU ones can still hold up in modern tasks though. The Nehalem cores are starting to show their age now, and for the dual socket machines are keeping up with just their sheer core count.

    • @iwanskiwi
      @iwanskiwi 5 років тому

      Thnx for your answer :) I going to try this out on high sierra any recommands for the nvme pcie cards? (Im running a single x5690, 3x 16GB DDR3-1333 ECC RDIMM, and a RX580)

  • @Ryoneftw
    @Ryoneftw 5 років тому +4

    "Everything you can think of is upgradable..."
    My friend, welcome to PCs.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 5 років тому +2

      Well the difference here is that while your hackintosh works the Mac Pro is legit and can run a legal version of Adobe CC. When you get into serious media production clients will get a phone call from Adobe asking for licensing.

    • @ecmorgan69
      @ecmorgan69 5 років тому

      What I love about PC advancement is the development of actual standards allowing for a vibrant third-party parts industry. God forbid Apple allow for that sort of tomfoolery.

    • @seconderror
      @seconderror 4 роки тому

      @@ecmorgan69 "vibrant third parts industry" until you need a driver for your audio device that should work but it does not.

    • @ecmorgan69
      @ecmorgan69 4 роки тому

      @@seconderror Which happens quite infrequently these days unless you're a devotee of Windows 95 - XP PC restoration. Even when I was building Windows 95 rigs, I only recall that happening with arcane networking cards.

  • @TISFORTAMIYA
    @TISFORTAMIYA 5 років тому

    One other major update you can do to these ups to use a nvme ssd thought the Pcie, otherwise your SSD is stuck at Sata 2 speeds

  • @xXTacoDeFrijolXx
    @xXTacoDeFrijolXx 5 років тому +1

    I love your videos, greetings from mexico xd

  • @rileywebb2643
    @rileywebb2643 5 років тому

    the bluetooth might not be working because of the extension cable. maybe because of that it’s losing power and doesn’t have enough power to use bluetooth properly

  • @OfficialRey202X
    @OfficialRey202X 5 років тому

    good video and see you in 2019

  • @bruhhdahman
    @bruhhdahman 5 років тому

    someday i'll get ahole of one of these, figure out the voltage pinout of the 24pin, and mod a standard PSU to work, so i can throw whatever the most powerful gpu at the time is in it.

  • @vmha8311
    @vmha8311 4 роки тому

    Love your channel. Is this a 2010 or 2012 Mac Pro?

  • @joeyamico5603
    @joeyamico5603 5 років тому

    Maybe MacOS is trying to use the original Bluetooth card because it is still plugged in to the Mac and has no antenna so it is causing issues? Or the two cards could be conflicting each other

  • @dragonballjiujitsu
    @dragonballjiujitsu 5 років тому

    Very nice.

  • @saifudinkhuzema6525
    @saifudinkhuzema6525 5 років тому +42

    Just replace the thermal paste of gtx 980

    • @highvoltage12v
      @highvoltage12v 5 років тому +4

      It Most likely has been when it was 'flashed' for the Mac Pro EFI. Doing so needs either the EEPROM replaced or flashed with a SOIC8 clip. You really shouldn't flash it with NVflash.

    • @saifudinkhuzema6525
      @saifudinkhuzema6525 5 років тому +9

      @@highvoltage12v DUDE I AM TALKING ABOUT THERMAL PASTE

    • @joosh.1413
      @joosh.1413 5 років тому +16

      @@saifudinkhuzema6525 did you not know? With the 980 you have to download the thermal paste after you've flashed it!

    • @saifudinkhuzema6525
      @saifudinkhuzema6525 5 років тому +1

      @@joosh.1413 😂😂

    • @highvoltage12v
      @highvoltage12v 5 років тому +6

      @@saifudinkhuzema6525 to get to the EEPROM you have to remove the whole cooler. Which means the thermal paste was replaced when that was done. What's so hard to understand about this?

  • @AlBroMedia
    @AlBroMedia 5 років тому

    So sense we were able to establish that the USB card and the wifi/bt card weren't working well together, should I still buy the wifi card and maybe look around for a POWERED usb card? I would much rather have ac wifi over usb 3

  • @BabyYoda5555
    @BabyYoda5555 5 років тому

    Your computer booted to the Kernal during startup and then you started having issues with Bluetooth. You probably just need to preform a PRAM reset.

  • @jetblack3417
    @jetblack3417 5 років тому +1

    You should try to disconnect the og bluetooth card.