Finding Your Roots: How Italians became White
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2023
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Finding your roots? We delve into the forgotten history of Sicilian and Italian immigrants in the Jim Crow South of the United States and origins of Columbus Day. Initially welcomed as a source of cheap labor after the Civil War, Sicilian immigrants faced discrimination and persecution as they sought better wages and living conditions. Despite their efforts to assimilate and build successful businesses, they were viewed as not fully white by white Southerners, who imposed on them the same persecution that was customarily inflicted upon African Americans. Shedding light on a dark chapter of American history that is often overlooked, let's find out how (and when) Italians became "White" in American.
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This is the very reason we should teach our true history in schools, all schools. When I say, (Our)I mean Italian Americans, African-Americans, Native Americans, Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, Caribbean Americans, Irish Americans. All American people should know their true history ☝🏽 When we know who we truly are, we can do better.
Beautifully said. I think a lot of people today dont realize that just a few decades ago, it was THEIR families who were the targets of hate, so we need to do our best to protect those who are in the hot seat today. Really no one has been exempt, but the hierarchies shift.
I never heard about the lynching of Italians in New Orleans or elsewhere. That is awful but thanks for teaching me what really happened.
Do Southern Italians consider themselves white now? I heard it depends which part of the country you are from.
@@Catlily5 There is still racism against southern Italians in Northern Italy today. It’s about 50/50 when it comes to southern Italians identifying as white or brown. However, nearly all northern Italians call southern Italians brown, no matter how light their skin is. My skin is literally a few shades darker than milk. I’m considered brown in Italy, because I’m from Campania. (My parents are actually, literally the color brown though.) I’m considered white in America though. It was very confusing as a child. 😅
Wow really?! What the heck would they call me? I am so pale right now since it’s still not summer but I’m definitely darker than milk 😩 thank you for sharing this
Wrong. Prior to 1965 Blk immigration to America was to the right of the decimal point on a percentage basis. The immigration act of 1965 followed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That's what opened up the door for non European peoples to immigrate here. Because America's immigration policy had been European Centered from After the Civil War to the Twentieth Century on up until 1960 when Euro Migration to America began to decline.
Foundational Black Americans are the only ethic group / black group who didn't immigrate to America Voluntarily.
And all of these tragic racial incidents that took place in America
Were not caused by Blk Americans.
And in many instances these newly arrived Euro migrants were hostile towards Blk Americans.
And at the same time Blks were being " emancipated" with nothing, through an act of Congress ( Land Grants ) millions of acres of free land was given to newly European Immigrants, they even set up Land Grant Colleges to teach them how to farm the land for free...
This should also be taught in American History.
As well
My father grew up in NYC in the 1930s & 40's. He remembers looking for work as a teenager and seeing signs in shop windows that said: "Help Wanted. No Italians." The Irish were the cops and politicians and the power and hated the Italians. My grandfather sold fruit and vegetables from a pushcart. The cops would, turn his cart over, smash his scale and arrest him (a US Word War I veteran), on some fake charge. He would have to go to court and the judge would fine him 25 cents. Ironic because when the Irish got here, they were treated like garbage themselves.
Not so ironic that the victimized often become victimizers. Happens all the time.
They hated The Italians , because they both became Gangs in N.Y . They, were beating and killing Italians ,etc. So , the 'Black Hand 'was formed . The resulting rounds ended the Irish dominance. They still had a part during prohibation alot. That's until the St. Valentines day Capone party.
Exactly
This isn’t really shocking. It’s human nature unfortunately. Just like when abused children grow up to be abusers as adults. A sick cycle.
@@pele11201 Its an American tradition. Come to this country poor and uneducated . Endure horrible discrimination and violence that the government and police encourage. Then after hundreds of years of hard work, finally make it and gain some acceptance. Then you can discriminate and hate too.
I am african... I studied in Italy, universita di Bologna, between 1998-2003... Sicilian people are just wonderful! I knew the information you delivered here by then. Unfortunately, the majority of Italians do not know how badly they were treated in the USA and not only there...
Thank you! I love what you are doing, and I do not struggle with myself when I listen to you!
Part of the price to admission to be "more American" and more white, especially for southern italians, was to become more racist against black people.
As a Sicilian girl, thank you so much ❤
Many of them became stone cold racist themselves against black people so let's not forget about them
Thank you for bringing this to light. My Grandpa was discriminated against in the early 1900's when he arrived in New York. We've come along way fighting stereotypes, but there's still much more ground to cover. When we realize we're ALL God's kids, then we'll make real progress. Thanks again, Prego Seniora
I don't mean this in a condescending way, there is nothing "unfortunate" about it. My grandmother is from Palermo Sicily and my grandfather from Naples. I liked the video, so nothing on that, but who cares if all Italians or Sicilians know what happened? It ain't like that now, what are we supposed to do? Piss and moan about stuff from the past? It was different times and all of those people are dead. Moving on, now if we could just get everyone else on board with that logic and agree we are now all Americans, we can move tf on to the important issues...
Excellent presentation, I’m Italian/Irish, and we heard stories of “Irish need not apply” from my grandparents on mom’s side. My Italian family hails from Tuscany and Abruzzi. Viva Italia!!
Stop trying to speak Italian, you can't even pronounce the region from wich your relatives came from
My dad a black man raised in 1950s Chicago I just want to say his best friend until they died both 3yrs ago was an Italian. His parents were killed in a car accident and my grandma raised a baby along with her own, he became my uncle and I loved him like dad#2. I am now in my 60's writing a book for my grandbabies titled what color is love dedicated to their special attachment
You thinking about publishing? Or is it just a personal project?
That's beautiful!
@@kylewood5607 Excellent question! Would be interested in reading it.
@@CarvellaNY Please Make Sure you Make All Necessary Provisions for your project before you allow someone to read your manuscript. And don't mention your topic or title without a copyright. Good Luck ❤
#cosign🫰🏿🫰🏿🫰🏿
The Irish and Italians were treated very similar, it’s amazing how both countries are now so influential in American society.
How?
@@VesperJester everything in nyc is either Italian or Irish
@@Nico_420 No it isn’t. So again how? The main things Italians/Irish in NYC are know for is being on the police/fire departments. And those departments have horrible reputations and are extremely corrupt.
@@Nico_420 NYC was founded by the Dutch that’s why you still have Dutch names of areas like Harlem.
@@Nico_420 does it bother anyone else that this lady cannot pronounce dago correctly??? 😂😂😂
As a person outside of America, it's always been so interesting to me just how much Americans see the world as black and white. I'm Polynesian and when I lived in America it was like, no one knew what to make of me. In New Zealand we call ourselves brown, but even then that's such a broad category. We tend to just say what we identify with when we discuss our race. White people will say Irish, or German etc. Asians will say Chinese or Korean etc. Polynesians will say Maori or Samoan etc.
It's sad to me how much Americans have erased from their heritage. People are definitely much more proud of their roots in other countries.
I had no idea of this History. I do remember my Grandparents saying that Italians or any immigrants that came to America were ashamed to speak their native tongue as they were horribly discriminated against. Although many, many immigrants didn't let those crazy people dictate who they truly were. Thank you so much for all you do to bring light to Identity and ancestors.
As a black man, when I saw this title, I was a bit thrown off. I had NO idea about this side of Italian history. I grew up in an area in Miami with a lot of Italians and this was never mentioned. Glad I learned something new today
Yea. *do your googles*
Once Italians became condidered honorary white they became rascist towards blacks too
It's because along with many "others" they are systemically racistly omitted from being taught about fairly and equally in the schools. The books have always been geopolitically manipulated .
Furthermore Christopher Columbus does not actually represent 99.9% of all Italian Americans.
@@IshbikesGoogle is a place to start but beware sone of that is,also omitted
Because Italians don't whine about stuff that happened a century ago
The fact that history, like this has been kept from us, is the reason why the children and grandchildren of immigrants today will have hateful views towards other immigrants. If we were taught exactly where we came from, and how much are histories overlap, we all would’ve gotten along a little better, and ultimately lead to a better world. Thanks for sharing this.
Erasing history is why info like this is hidden from the public.
No, this was well known for hundreds of years both in the US and Europe. Hint! Multi culturalism does not exist in other parts of the world,nor is it wanted today. See Soviet Union, Africa (no Pan African unity), Jugoslavia and its failures. Once Chinese Communist fall out of power, China too will splinter and divide across 4 to5 different new ethnic based nations.
Add India, which was dominated by Muslims before the British.
Well, if you don't pay your dues, you can't join the club.
@@getlost3346 🐥
74 Italians were massacred in Calumet Michigan when they were on a strike. It’s a tragedy and I believe another story to support your perspective. Great video.
Hannibal a African Ruler conquered Rome, hence the dark skin, eyes, curly hair of Sicilians, southern Italian's were not considered white because of their African heritage.
@@MarcelleSims Hannibal never conquered Rome, Rome conquered Carthago.
@@MarcelleSims povero ingnorante
la maggior parte erano finlandesi e croati, non italiani.
@@MarcelleSims lol, you’re wrong. Hannibal, and most Carthaginians, was racially Phoenician, so he was Levantine. Definitely not black or North African.
The Italians are the real parents of Europe! Beautiful art, language and culture.....
Yeah they welcomed Adolf....good one????
more like older brother. The parents would have to be greece. Im both so i love both cultures.
@@channel-gt1cb l'impero romano è durato più di 1000 anni, voi luridi americani e inglesi nemmeno tra 100000 anni creerete un impero come quello romano
@@channel-gt1cb The Americans and the English were and are not better than your friend Adolf. They only used a different strategy to invade, steal and kill.
@@MrSpotface Not really, Greek and Romans had different but equal (in terms of strength) influences on European civilisation.
My Sicilian grandparents came to America when they were 13 years old. They entered into this country at New Orleans. And picked sugar cane for a living. They moved to the Mississippi delta because there were a lot of Sicilians living there. They operated a grocery store and later on a restaurant. My grandparents taught me a lot about life. I wish I would have written down all of their history.
Picked? Holy moly, if only. Your ancestors cut cane. This means so much more than picked. You should watch some videos on it. That work caused revolts.
There's a great movie on this. Vendetta, starring Christopher Walken. Great movie.
@@tychris9464 Thanks bro
You still can write their history, there are all types of public records that can be used...
I went to Sicily last year June. The people were very friendly, welcoming and nice.
I'm a White American who grew up in a 100% Black neighborhood in Massachusetts in the 1950's and 1960's. I can't tell you how Blessed I feel for growing up where I did. It made me open minded to ALL People, not just on the basis of color but on every other social dimension as well. I've never understood how anyone who calls themselves a Christian can discount the humanity of another person based on superficial appearances.
What a blessing… I’m a black 50 sumthin woman that grew up in the 70’s 80’s in a military family but in a civilian (all white) neighborhood.. and I can honestly say, I had the BEST childhood and wouldn’t trade it for anything… This is proof that prejudice/racism is taught !!! I never once felt like I was treated differently… Our neighbors were our “FAMILY”… When anyone needed help .. each family showed up.. when one family had a crisis the entire neighborhood had a crisis… We HAVE to get back to this way of living… ❤❤❤
Massachusetts? I believe your experience would have been different, in say, Memphis. Don't believe me. Head on out there.
@@troycleek7394nah I’m black from Boston . Believe it or not we had a lot of black history . Specifically some of the first blacks to come to the states (slaves) were brought to mass.
@@NoDiddyllc That makes sense. They got big money to this day.
@@troycleek7394 not really bro check the household income for blacks in Boston. You wouldn’t believe it.
Thank you so much Danielle for sharing this great story about your family. With the history of our nation being dictated by the victor, there are so many fascinating stories to be heard. They are both dark (Individuals perishing, thriving communities destroyed) and beautiful (a melting pot). You are so correct that with every country, an underclass is created. I learned of unfair practices of Italians from friends in NYC during my life there for several decades but yours threw an even different twist. As an architectural designer, it also made me ponder if the skilled craftsman of Italy was also an epiphany that was realized during the ban of immigrants. Your documentary brings about an even deeper perspective and history of another beautiful group of our nation. One great aspect about technology is having these opportunities to share another great chapter of history. Looking forward to the next posting.
This is fascinating stuff I’ve never heard of before. So cool. Thank you!
My family are Scandinavians. In the 1960s, my late older brother met, fell in love with, and married a lovely Italian girl. She was just the nicest person ever. My Dad was fine with it but my mom treated her like DIRT, called her all the pejoratives, and just embarrassed the rest of us. I still get sick to my stomach thinking about it.
But when the Roman empire was at its peak, the barbarians from the north had not yet come out from their caves
@@dominicj7977 amen
🎉😢Did you ever ask her what or who brainwashed her hate Italians?
Much of this is covered in a 2019 NYT article.
@@divynerosehealing8546 What about the franks, angles, saxons and britons?
Im Sicilian American..this makes me sad but im so proud of my heritage. I wish more Americans knew this history ,and celebrated all heritage and groups. Thank you for this! ❤
American simply dont care cos they dont teach fuck all in schools here, they also think they so much smarter than the rest of the world!
Choose One: Sicilian or American. You can't be both, because being Sicilian means hating america and being American means hating the world
Italians were always considered white. the discrimination that Italians faced was not because they weren't considered white. There have always been ethnic hostilities among white people(Just look at the history of Europe), but that doesn't mean they didn't consider each other white.
@@jamesMcCarthy-uq3bn I understand your comment but growing up in the 70's I was considered a"black Italian" because I'm Sicilian. We may be considered white in America now but Sicilians were treated much different throughout history
And now they call us white racists
Great videos and you have a unique perspective that we rarely learn about. Thanks
Very informative and pretty thorough. Good job.
I'm an Italian from Sicily, I was completely unaware about the New Orleans massacre and the segregation that Sicilians suffered in Louisiana. Thank you for letting me know.
It wasn't like that. My Catananna was from Agrigento and immigrated through New Orleans. The reason for the lynchings were because Chief Henessey was murdered after he got between two warring Sicilian clans who ran the docs. So, the townspeople naturally blamed the Sicilians who had all been arrested in suspicion of the murder. I'm related to the guy they wanted to lynch, who was most likely responsible, but he managed to hide under a mattress and avoid being killed. Sicilians thrived in New Orleans and for the most part, people there liked them.
It was for a great reason lol.
I grew up in a mafia area.
I once read a study the US did on the Italian mafia that covered the US and Italy.
The findings were that Southern Italians were extremely selfish narcissists who were only interested in their selves or immediate family. They would think it nothing to murder and create chaos in public as long as it was not in their area.
Meanwhile, Northern Italians, who are like Germans/Celtic people, hate Southern Italians too and want nothing to do with them.
A trait Southern Italians have with other troublesome groups is to deny everything.
Thankfully, things seemed to have smoothed out a lot in the US.
@@Terminal-VetYou tried buddy, you tried. But she has too much evidence.
Stop it.
First the Irish were " slaves" now the supposed mistreatment of Italians.
Yes , anglos discriminated against foreigners, immigrants, however none of them were brutalized for 400 years like Blacks were in the US.
The Irish, Italians and others could assimilated by changing their names and speaking English.
The Black people could not change their skin color.
The Irish, Italians and others thrived after awhile, while Blacks didnt get their freedoms until the 1960s.
@@davegorko7647Bruh, what does the german heritage of northern Italy matter? Southern people got viking blood in their veins for all that matters.
Also, northern people doesn't hate southern italians, wtf are you talking about; just a small part of the northern italians is so fucking dumb to blame south for all the italians problems, just as some of the southern people blaming north for all their problems.
The fact that mafia exists doesn't automatically make all southern italians criminals you donkey
This puts me in mind of a story my Dad told me. He was born on Staten Island in 1918 (his parents immigrated from St. Martin, the Dutch West Indies in 1911). Many people from St. Martin settled in Staten Island around that time. A little later, Italian immigrants also arrived, and friendships and alliances were formed between the two ethnic groups, including going to church, going to public school, and even eating at each other's houses. My father, who was black, claimed many of his best friends during his childhood were Italian. In 1942 when they were drafted into the service for WWII, a group of these friends took the ferry to Manhattan to be inducted. Once there, they were split up by race ("whites over here, colored over there!") The war took over their lives from that point. When it was over, my Dad never re-established contact with his old friends. If he saw one on the street, he might nod a quick hello, but that was it. I always found that sad.
Black citizens in the US were treated badly after the CW and returning vets were treated abominably. The modern movement for blacks to get equal rights began as a consequence of the hurt and anger felt by these returning vets
@@Patriot1789not true BLACK folks have fought since 1865 for justice, WW2 made racism harder to defend morally
Really sad. (Even sadder is that without talking to each other, they would never even know if the other might have wanted to rekindle that friendship-but both too embarrassed/nervous to say anything)….I get it, but so sad
@@tesmith47ill do you one better and say black folks have been fighting injustice since slavery for hundreds of years whether trying to escape slave masters or trying to live free when "allowed"
I didn't know a lot of people from St. Martin settled in Staten Island, NY. Very interesting. NYC was settled by the Dutch as well. Cornelius Vanderbilt is buried on Staten Island in the Moravian Cemetary he was born on S.I. as well. I have family members from Staten Island and Brooklyn. My grandparents lived in Brooklyn, some of their children later moved to S.I., NY some moved to Long Island and some to NJ.
Wow, I just found you, you’re sensational. So much history, so much dissecting, so much insight.
wow. this explains so much. thank you for sharing 🙏🏼
As a Greek American I appreciate your well researched podcast. My grandfather was most likely a victim of the Omaha burning of Greeks out of the city. We only know something terrible happened there that resulted in him moving to Chicago and starting over. He did everything after that to appear as “Anglo Saxon” and blend in as possible. As a result we lost our heritage and even connections to our extended family.
I am so sorry to hear that. I had a chance to hear a Greek language and clearly up close just a couple weeks ago (I live in very homogenous country) and I fell in love with the sound of it. Such a beautiful language. It sounds like a mix of romance language and turkic language spiced with an elegance. Wish I had more time to learn it.
This explains why the Italians and Greeks currently in America are the most racist creeps one can find. To fit in with the anglos, they act like the worst racist bholes.
A white person is any of the original peoples of Europe, Middle East, and North Africa, so that includes italians. Ameriva is even named after an italian, "Amerigo". There's two kinds of white people: those who get pink & red in the sun and those who get gold & bronze, every white community/country has both kinds, some just have more of one kind than the other.......
Damn bro im sorry to hear tht
So many stories like that 😥
I swear history is so prevalent for every race. Leave nothing out, teach factual truths; no matter how difficult it may be. I’m black but my family consists of people from most races, cultures, and religions. We all love another and are stronger as a unit.
THIS!
She preaches racial bias against Whites and the United States who freed her ancestors from "Confederate" slavery. Their Black ancestors are the ones that sold Blacks into Slavery. If it aso wasn't for the slave trade these miserable, hateful Blacks wouldn't be alive and be in the 'FREE" UNITED STATES. This preaches and establishes the "INFERIORITY" and hate that is in the majority of Blacks in the United States.
To note the truth: there is ONE race, the human race. Many have been bigoted, but none are racist because there aren't multiple races, just one. The false teaching about there being "races" is actually used to perpetuate the bigotry and problems of the past. They simply changed the wording of their old teaching, the one that claimed some were "sub-human" to teaching the word "race/races/racist/racism," and we need to understand that "race" is used as a synonym for "species," and that different species can't interbreed and remain reproductive (examples are horse and donkey make mule, but mules can't reproduce, just as lion and tiger can make a "liger" but "ligers" can't reproduce) but all humans can. What we have are many lineages, ethnicities, and cultures, but only one race. When we use the word "races" or "racist/racism," we are continuing to teach ourselves and those that hear us that there are multiple races when there are not. The "race" teaching is used against us to divide us, to perpetuate the same divisions of thought.
Factual truths? This video lacks context and is mostly pseudo-historical nonsense. Italians didn't need to "become white" because they already were -by US law. That "Italians" (mostly Sicilians) faced some discrimination does not mean that any significant number of people thought they weren't "white".
@@cacatr4495 to deny there are races is to deny the atrocities committed by Caucasian men who created racism and classism bc they felt "racially superior" and that they inherited the Earth
I love the fact that you are so very truthful
Awesome perspective ,and information.
My dad was Sicilian and I grew up in the Boston area . I was born in 1941 and experienced some really bad race prejudice as a child, even though
my parents forbade me to tell any of my school mates what my ancestry was. I grew up with severe emotional trauma, eventually leaving the white community and feeling more safe with black people. I totally believe that we are all one people, and am at peace with my identity as a human being.
Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed your video. Love,
Nina
Wow! Never knew this. Truly sickness. Must be fought at every level. I grew up in Louisiana, didn't know about the Italians.
My Dad is also Sicilian! Our last name was a town in Sicily that is now called Henna. I had no idea there was even a difference until I was called a slur but didn’t know what it meant. When I learned more I was horrified. I’m so sorry you had to go through that, I have no idea what it’s like to be discriminated against and I’m sure it was hard.
Oh please cmon ! The moors invaded Sicily and what not , and planted their seed, no different from the Spanish in north, central , and South America , and no different from the US slave owner porking their African slaves.
This sucks. Imagine still going through similar shit today. It's rough man.
Morocco is a more white supremacist country than today's Germany, wish I was joking, and it always was one. Mediterraneans are self haters too, just because they hate anything making them remotely related to the south, even if the south are the innocent ones and the actual good ones
As an Italian, I do appreciate this video. It shows how Italians were considered just a couple of generations ago and it is quite sad that nowadays Italians do not know anything about these things...
I did a follow up video about the Italian-American prison camps in Montana during WW2. It shocked me. ua-cam.com/video/2W3CjKQx0f4/v-deo.html
Italians were always white if by that you mean European and Caucasian . Just because they are tanned dummy 😂.
Filipinos are worse. History wasn't much discussed in public schools. Most Filipinos never even heard of the Spanish-American war in the Philippines.
Purtroppo è così… da noi nessuno sa una mazza😢😢😢
Cause we're not like the americans that want to be the eternal victims?
I had no idea! Thank you for your research.
Just found you. what a wonderfully done piece. I had read about the inching but there was no “story” behind it. I look forward to seeing more of your videos. 🇮🇹🇨🇦
Being anti Black is key to becoming accepted into American society.
The Italians must have missed that note😂 I was really proud to learn about the decision to integrate even during Jim Crow.
@@nytn pardon me, I misspoke. I’m from New Jersey. I’m not speaking on all Italian people. I’m just saying that a lot of Italian people have an anti Black attitude. I always thought that was crazy, especially being that Italy is so close to Africa, and Italian people’s curly hair, love of gold chains, and sweatsuits. Shit, you may be Black on both sides.
No I get you! I just am glad to know that there are parts of the Italian story to be proud of, and integrating during Jim crow is one of them.
ETA: I am African on both sides! I didn’t know the gold chains and sweatsuits made it so obvious, I’m all about them 😂😂
@@nytn I respect that 💯✊🏾❤️
@@nytn No, they didn't miss that memo, not at all. They've benefitted from whiteness & white supremacy quite well.
It is great to see so many Italian Americans proud of their Italian roots, particularly after all the prejudice we endured in the USA. Unfortunately, many of us lost our connection with Italy and our Italian culture in order to fit in and “ Americanize.” Several years ago, I applied to the local Italian consulate and was recognized an Italian citizen “de jure sanguinis “ ( by blood) . I now have an Italian passport, Italian birth certificate, and I vote in all the Italian elections. I studied and speak fluent Italian, and visit Italy every year. Yes, I am American by birth, but I am also a proud Italian. Viva l’Italia ! 🇮🇹
BRAVO!
Sempre wwww l'Italia ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Good for you! My papa (grandfather) made the conscious decision not to speak Italian because he wanted to fit in with the rest of America (his mother was fluent in Sicilian). This video helps me understand maybe why that was, but I had never understood it. So much of the culture was lost in that decision as now all of my American relatives from Sicily are deceased and my papa died before I was born. Since then, I've been learning it all on my own and have been using Duolingo to learn the language. I've been wanting to look into getting Italian citizenship but I don't think I could afford to travel there anytime soon, haha!
@@cappyvas congratulations to you for for wanting to learn about your family’s culture and background. Sicily is one of the most beautiful and historic places Italy with its ancient roots in Greek culture and language. While you may not be able to go to Italy now, you still should checkout the possibility of Italian citizenship, there are all kinds of information online. Continue with your Italian language studies as well. “In bocca al lupo!” ( Good luck!) Viva la Sicilia! Ciao.
Sorry, it is impossible to have an Italian birth certificate and an American birth certificate. Were you born twice!?
I always wanted to know about this topic. You are on point. Thank you
My paternal Polish Grandmother was born in 1886. Back in the 1960's we heard her refer to every racial group in the US by racist names, which I don't want to say here, but she mentioned Italians. I guess that must've been common in the environment where she grew up in upstate New York. We rarely saw her and were extremely shocked as our family grew up in a diverse liberal environment and had never heard these words spoken. My impression was it made her feel superior. For us, it was a window into another world. Luckily a world that has grown since then.
Well done! About 10 years ago, I wrote a book on my own family’s Sicilian heritage. I did not want it to be simply a genealogy of names and dates, but a personal story told within fact-based historical context. I very carefully researched and included a lot of the information you presented in this video about the Italian immigrant experiences with racial, employment, financial, and societal discrimination. Many family members, who had assumed that we had always been “white” were surprised at what they learned. I firmly believe that when we know what our ancestors went through, we better appreciate what we have now.
Where can we see or read your book?
Can you post the title of your book? I’d love to read it, because my grandmother’s family were Sicilian immigrants.
Have you published your book yet? I would love to have a copy as I am Italian My family been here since 1902. Three brothers one wife one cousin Nicola, Micheli,Veto Glaviano they were from the mainland I just don't quite remember the name of the town. But as many Italians will tell you they were deported or left from the island of Sicily and so when they ask them where they come from when they arrived here they told them they came from Sicily or sometimes the Italians could not understand English and they would just simply put down their origin was Sicily . I guess in the rush of things so many coming over 4 million I think she mentioned I guess it's easy for some misinformation. Someone like yourself I'm sure we're clear these things up so that we can all be proud of our Italian heritage. Our last name was Glaviano
Zionists want you to hate yourself and everyone else.
Did you mention your African bloodline?
Wow. There are a lot of Black families in New Orleans who carry Italian names. My parents and many people from old New Orleans who considered them as “Dagos.” I never knew where that term came from. Thanks for giving light in this dark history. It’s so sad that people are treated so badly because of skin color
I heard Dago was originally a knock on Spaniards, keying off the name Diego. In Saint Paul Minnesota, some old-Italian-family-run restaurants embrace the term. A common item on the menu in these places is a "Hot Dago Sandwich".
Only white people created different laws to discriminate against people on the basis of their skin color. They're the ones who fostered hate against dark skin people, Jews, Italians, Greeks, and Chinese people. Whites are the architecture of racism.
Dago may have been derived from term "Diego", which means "Spaniard" ...The Romans laid the foundations for modern Spanish culture and identity, and Spain was the birthplace of important Roman emperors such as Trajan, Hadrian or Theodosius ...So Italians were Romans first, then Spaniards, then Americans, much like Hassidic Jews. However, WOP actually stands for "WithOut Papers" W/O P and would apply to many immigrants, not just Italians, but somehow it stuck to Italians.
@@philipethier9136 Dagonites .
Southern Italy was fundamentally invaded by Greek-Jews whom had invaded Eastern Mediterranean coastal line and had a substantial Northern African genetics .
@@dylannaenzo9737 Dago or Dagonites or Fish people is whom Jews and Roman Catholic Church venerates .Southern Italy like Eastern Mediterranean coastal line was invaded by Greek-Jewish SeaPeople whom had a substantial amount Northern African genetics hence when a so called “Greek” speak English will often have the same accent as a Spanish person just as Greek-Jewish SeaPeople would and do share common cultural and genetic traits that are different continental and pastoral,societies.
Setimo, Thank You for all the advice!!!!!
This is new info for me, thanks for enlightening me
I found this very interesting. My husband is half-Italian. His mother’s parents were born in Italy. When I had asked him which part of Italy he had always said it was central or northern. When I did a tree on Ancestry I found they were from Campania which had been part of “The Kingdom of the Two Sicilies” in the 1800’s. I never knew there was discrimination based on which part of Italy a person came from. I knew my husband’s paternal grandfather wasn’t happy when his son married an Italian around 1960 in Pennsylvania. The discrimination I think tapered away as more Italians became “Americanized” and other groups became more demonized. René Giraud’s scapegoat theory is interesting to look at as part of why groups tend to create “us versus them” narratives and dehumanize each other.
It's funny how petty humanity is. One leader's insecurities can cause a whole movement. Turning on eachother because of skin tone, lifestyle, traditions, language, stuff that doesn't matter when all is said and done. We all go into the ground at some point. So we should just be respectful while we still have the time. Fighting over dumb stuff that doesn't matter.
Very good comment.
Columbus Day was launched as a marketing tool for the 1893 Columbian Exposition and continued as a peace-offering for the infamous 1890 lynching over that assassination of that New Orleans public official automatically blamed on the Black Hand, the forerunner of the Mafia.
Its a product of the Royals or actually Robber Barons who destroyed tribal culture to create a caste or class system controlled by the royal oligarchy. It was the original crime that created the mess of social disorganization we have today. All hate and racism result from the self hate imposed by patriarchal class society with sick people as the elites. Those who need others to look down upon to feel adequate are sick weaklings. This will destroy us all if we do not re embrace strong cultural or matriarchal communities.
To this day, Northern Italians refer to Southern Italians by the slur "terroni" (plural for terrone"). The country is still divided North v South politically and economically.
Everybody needs to know the full American history, it’s not harmful but informative and fascinating.❤
It's also sickening, depressing, pathetic
@@Warm-qq2wowhat?
Tell that to today’s GOP who are trying to erase history. .
Very informative video, thanks you
Well explained. Thank you.
I’m a 4th generation Italian American born in Pennsylvania, but now lives in South Carolina. I knew there was hatred towards Italian immigrants at several points, but I had no idea some of us were lynched. It’s odd to think that I would be considered inferior to others in another time to people who didn’t know me and didn’t know better. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
There is SO much hidden Italian American history, I am working on telling it all.
@@nytnplease tell it all. Though I’m glad to see the support here, there are some who don’t want this story told.
Imagine being black! How do you view black people now that you know your immigrant ancestors were considered less than black folks. Now that your 4 generations removed from the racial hate and now comfortable in the whiteness they didn’t enjoy, how does that make you feel? I’m just curious! Thanks!
@@ROMESKIable bro it's wild. I'm shook. I'm half German-half Italian, but even Germans immigrants during the World Wars era were being harassed and beaten. Mobs would go out and kill Dachshunds and German Shepherds. And I'm Catholic lol. In the end, it's just another reason why we're all the same.
@@bradleykramer316saying we’re all the same is just delusional.
This comes with mixed emotions as on the one hand I feel sorry that Italian Americans were treated with bigotry in the early times of our country. However, knowing the full history we know how Italian Americans en masse look down on African Americans, treat them with the same bigotry once they became "white", ex. Italian parents and the community not allowing interracial dating or marriage with black persons. It seems everyone couldn't wait to throw off their culture and background to become like the oppressors. And Italians are not the only group with this strange, very anti Christ or anti judeo Christian act. The Irish, Mexican, native American, Asian , other Latino groups and Jewish community all looked down on the negro with the same hate and discrimination as the Anglo Americans.
*God's Chosen (ISRAEL)*
Hating black became a status symbol, - even with blacks.
What most Italians fail to realize is they have black blood in their lineages
Great comment.
@@thatguybill34 Crossed my mind today for some odd reason while driving. Just thinking how Zionists even today feel this to be true. Not necessarily secular Jews but the Zionists that mistreat Palestinians. For this reason, I believe that is why they cannot have their own homeland. It's sad.
Hello and thank you for your content
Thanks for sharing
I remember my grandma telling me a story when she was a kid, (she didn’t live down south though, she lived in Newark NJ) she was playing one day with another little girl who had blond hair and blue eyes, they where getting along and having fun together playing, the little blond haired girl invited my grandmom over to her house, when they got there the little girl told my grandma that she couldn’t come in because her mom said that my grandma was “dark”. I never forgot that story and neither did she.
I hope the next generation will be a little bit better in realizing how silly these binary groups are for people. This made my heart hurt so much.
That is so heartbreaking
I experienced this as a child from an Italian family. My mother said this might be due to me having a physical disability and that some people believe this happens because of a curse or wrong doing. Fortunately my family did not hold this belief and it was only one family which treated me this way.
I'm not even 50, and I remember kids racially teasing me when I moved to NJ from Queens, NY. It wasn't subtle. My dark knuckles fascinated... 😅
That is sad to hear this happened.
You do realize that Sicily was under Arab occupation from the year 827AD to 1091AD? A minority of Sicilians are descendants of those occupiers. It was the Normans who actually liberated the island over a period of thirty years. The Greek speaking residents of the island welcomed them. This is a reason of why there are also blond haired blue eyed Sicilians, even though there are some blond haired Greeks.
Excellent content! As a 58-year-old Sicilian American growing up in NYC in the 1970's, I can tell you that we did not identify as "white". White people to us were white Anglo Saxons Protestants. My parents made sure that my siblings and I understood our roots and the treatment our grandparents received as dark-skinned non-English speaking immigrants in an effort to teach us to never judge a book by its cover. My wife who is a Peruvian immigrant and I have taught our children and grandchildren to do the same. As many have mentioned here, this is why the history of all Americans from all backgrounds should be taught in school. We really have so much more in common than in differences.
My family still refers to non-Italian Americans as “‘merican” as in “he’s a nice boy for a ‘merican”, meaning he’s not Italian.
I am patrilineally Sicilian, even though the rest of my ancestry is clearly from the more northern reaches of Europe.
I look about as Northern European as you can get, and I find this "otherness" Americans once thought of Italians extremely bizarre yet also predictable: Southern Italians were encouraged to leave Italy en masse because of the contempt Northern Italians had for them, and despite some of the animosity put towards them like this video suggests, life for those Southern Italians and their descendants is far, far better than had they remained in Italy.
Italians are white
@@Wasserkaktus I Own The Complete "Divine Comedy" by Dante Alghlieri. And I find it fascinating that Italians were classied as Black and White Race prior to the 13th century. 😮
I’m sure you know Fabrizio the Doorman. I met him in 2007 when I moved to nyc and loved his style. He was the first Italian who taught me that he wasn’t “white”
Wow! So glad you turned up on my UA-cam feed.
I'm an Italian -Irish American who's always identified as Italian because I was practically raised by my Italian grandparents and relatives in a small north eastern Connecticut town.
Not only have I never heard of what happened in New Orleans, I never knew that ANY Italians had ever been lynched.
My first experience with racism, although I didn't recognize it as such, was being asked by a third grade classmate if my grandfather belonged to the Mafia. This would have occurred around 1953-54.
Having no idea what the Mafia was I told that boy that my grandfather worked in a factory.
My grandfather was born in Rome and was given away by his mother 3 days after his birth. He was brought to the "commune" with the name Latici pinned to him. The name does not exist in Italy, although it is the second half of the Tuscan name, Montelatici. All of my grandmother's relatives came from the Province of Ferrera with the exception of two aunts, one Bolognese, the other Piemontese.
I don't recall ever hearing anyone speak degradingly of Southern Italians or Sicilians.
Flash forward to 1966 when met the love of my life in college, a Neapolitan/Sicilian boy.
When I spoke of him at a family dinner gathering, I was shocked to hear my grandfather say,
"If he's Napolitano/Siciliano you better check his pockets for knives before you let him in the house."
I was so shocked I didn't ask my grandfather to explain himself. I ignored it. I went through three breakups and reunions with that boy before breaking up for good for reasons having nothing to do with his being Southern Italian.
I have lived in Italy now for 21 years. I first lived on the Bolognese pianura. At yhe place where I lived there were gardener, a married couple. She was Ferrarese, he was Tuscan. My bedroom was directly over their cantina and I heard their daily conversations. They referred to the husband of a woman who lived above me as a "mulingnan" a eird in dialect meaning eggplant, slang for a Sicilian or Southern Italian that referred to their alleged dark skin. The husband in question was Sicilian. The year was 2003. So the racism that led to the lynching of Italians in the United States was very much alive here in Emilia Romagna and Tuscany. BTW, the gardeners were horrid people. I won't go into details.
In my time in here I've been fortunate enough to travel around the country for work. My two favorite places so far are Puglia and Sicily, especially Sicily, for its beauty, culture and most of all, people.
I wanted to move to Sicily after my first visit.
Oddly, I never once saw a dark skinned person. I DID see in Sicily stunning faces that looked as if they'd jumped off of ancient Greek urns. When I say stunning, I mean literally breathtaking to yhe point that more than once I was unable to prevent myself from telling a few young women how beautiful they were.
I don't know where all the dark skinned people were hiding.
Same in Puglia. Not one.
I have Calabrian and Sicilian friends here. No one is dark.
I HAVE seen old photos of Southern Italians with what I suppose might be referred to as dark, but I would call it a shade of olive, a color so stunning I would trade my pale skin for it in an instant.
Interestingly, when I look back at myself at age 19 I realize that a paler shade of that olive hue was in my blood. I had a job working in Sturbridge Village, a recreation of an 18th Century village. I was obliged to wear a costume, and the costume I was given was a light purple. When I put it on I saw that my skin took on a pale shade of olive green. Purple being the complementary color of green brought that color to the surface of my white skin. I was fascinated, though it took me years to understand yhe the meaning of it.
As I've aged my skin has become increasingly devoid of any melanin. I don't even tan darkly as I did when young.
From the moment I understood what it meant to be Italian I was proud of what that meant. I still am.
Only after watching this video (I've subscribed) did something incredibly disturbing occur to me.
Having grown up in New England I had several WASP boyfriends
Taking dates to Church is the best way to find a keeper.
BRAVO ❤ this is phenomenal history… thank you for sharing this 🙏🏽
My great great grandfather immigrated from Sicily to the U.S. through Louisiana. Growing up I heard stories about my grandfather and his family being called dago niggers and being treated poorly. They left and ended up in Colorado. I had no idea how bad they actually had it. Thank you for the info.
Colorado, part of the territory they STOLE FROM MEXICO
SIMPLE : TO THIS VERY DAY, ITALIANS REMAIN DIVIDED. FIRST THING A FELLOW ITALIAN ASKS YOU : CHE PARTE ? ( WHAT PART OF ITALY YOU FROM )
THIS IS WHY ITALIANS CANT ELECT EACHOTHER... THEY'RE BOUGHT OUT WITH SOME DRIVER OR LABORER JOB AT WHATEVER MUNICIPALITY. LIKE BIDEN, NOT ONE ITALIAN ON HIS STAFF, CABINET.
America was and still is a wild place sheesh
Holy shit man Dago Niggers?! Forgive me as a black man I had no idea that Sicilians and Italians suffered the same shit that my ancestors and so many others went through weather they were from Africa Europe or indigenous . But hey your here due to his strength one way or another. I knew they went through some hatred but it’s definitely not taught in school like that.
Most of them are related to the Moors
Any person who has been to Italy, including the South, and Sicily, knows that Italians are typical White Europeans. This is also true of the Spanish, and Portuguese, (who also get accused of not being White). Many U.S. Americans, who have never been outside of their country, labor under the delusion, that Italians are not quite White. The best explanation for this phenomenon, is that during the 19th Century, and before, uncounted numbers of non-Europeans crowded into the USA via Ellis Island, without papers. Since it was widely known that Americans had restrictions on non-European immigration, they simply claimed: "I am Italian". By this means thousands of Egyptians, Turks, Arabs, other Middle-Easterners, and even some from South Asia, made in into New York without papers. The term "WOP" was coined for these paperless immigrants, (Without Papers). If anyone has doubt about this: Go to Italy and see for yourself just how White Italians are. You will witness how commonplace Blonds, and Blue-Eyed Italians are, just like any other part of Europe.
Finally, intelligence appears.
Turks are a whiter people than Italians. They are not of Middle Eastern origin.
I didn't know this. thank you for sharing 🙏
I just subscribed to your channel, I love your content and the way you bring down some history.
Man, I'm an older black man, and I appreciate the education. You blew me away. Thanks.🥰
In 1999 I served with Italian troops under NATO command (SFOR V ). From day 1, I was shown nothing but the utmost respect, and in a short period of time I became their brother. Despite the fact that most of them spoke English, they appreciated my interest in learning Italian. I've always known of the oppression of Italian immigrants, but never heard of the scale of abuse they had endured. Among all of the Europeans I had the pleasure of meeting, it is the Italians that are perhaps my favorites . ( don't tell my French and Norwegian brothers and sisters! ) Thank you for bringing this ugly truth to light.
It's because Italians (by not being a defined ethnic group, rather a multitude of ethnicities all lumped in together) have always been taught to blend in with the rest of the population. Ever asked yourself why Italians seem to find themselves "at ease" wherever they go? Here's your answer.
Nato brothers? Jesus
@@allcolorsareentombedinblack tra le regioni italiane ve n'è una che nel 1390 era una Nazione! La Sardegna! Lo studio del loro DNA dimostra che non sono veri italiani ma sono un etnia a parte! La più antica del Mediterraneo! Poi la geopolitica ha fatto il resto!! purtroppo..
Italians were always white if by that you mean European and Caucasian . Just because they are tanned dummy 😂.
Well your NATO “bro’s” are being slaughtered in Ukraine by the Russian military as we speak. Imperialist leaches. 🇷🇺🇷🇺ZOV
Yo this is wild. So dope ty fo the info.
Hi there! I’m an African American woman who has had an autistic-hyperfixation with this time period in America since middle school.
Parallels & Nuances between the treatment, social views & proximity of Italian Americans VS African Americans & Ashkenazi Jewish Americans VS African Americans has always been interesting so immediately clicked on your video. Great job, I loved it!
ohhh you belong on this channel with me then!
also, love the avatar pic haha
I'm black and from New Orleans, grew up in a neighborhood with Italians and Sicilians, and I've definitely seen all forms of discrimination. People draw imaginary boundaries to insulate their insecurities. I didn't know anyone thought we were different until (at school) I overheard some adults talking about my friend and his family. Irish Catholic nuns discussing my friend's Sicilian family. You can just guess how that convo went.
I always say that outwardly bigoted people harbor the most insecurities, and merely project it onto numerous scapegoats.
The way you put it, though; insulating their insecurities, cuts very deep indeed.
A video like this and it's affirming comment section is the dark side to the internet and free speech. There's nothing much that's pragmatically true about it. I grew up in San Francisco, and me and every member of my family were physically and violently attacked by blacks for no reason. I don't think they really gave a rat's ass that we were Italian..... in relation to being Irish, Slovenian, Armenian, Croatian, German, etc! We never experienced any discrimination from anyone.... except BLACKS. It wasn't even discrimination; it was violent racist assaults. Sure Irish people could come around in 2023 and say they were slaves.... or Slavs, Jews, etc. But pragmatically it's no longer relevant in anyone's mind. Basically a video like this attracts the rats now slithering through the comment section. Tell us all about it sbupt9413... we just need YOU to protect us from the Irish! What fkg universe do you live in? It kind've sounds like you and your friend were a couple of simpletons who latched onto each other for mutual support!
@@lawrencedaniels9231 did they liberated us italians? From who? from ourselves? No more fairy tales please: America defeated us, invaded and occupied. On the other hand, it was Italy that declared war on the USA, and we lost. I don't want to be polemical, I'm just saying it because that's how it happened: we lost WWII.
@@OperatoreDelMiniCalcolatoreItalians in America gained hwite status because ITALIAN AMERICANS took down Mussolini. You forgot huh?
“Liberated Italy” ? From who/what? Italy declared war on the US during WW2 cause they were National Socialists. Benito Mussolini was the Italian Hitler.
My mother was an Italian war bride who married my dad and moved to the US in 1945. We were taught to be very proud of our Italian heritage, which is of course very easy to do. My mother did not run into anti-Italian sentiment, but we were in Washington D.C., a liberal, diverse, and fairly educated city. My mother spoke impeccable English, but never lost her accent. She didn't really like English vowels.
I love italian americans who speak italian and keep our culture
You acting like liberals aren't racist. That's so stupid
Italian can mean sicilian and blonde with blue eyes... so when you say Italian, what do you mean? North, South, Central or the two isles of Sicily and Sardinia?
My mother's family is from Ancona, which was a Greek settlement before it was Roman. From my DNA testing, we are about half northern, half southern Italian, with some Greek thrown in. One of my great-grandparents was Socrate Montano! We are all brown-eyed and brown-haired.
The Italian language has pure vowels which is why Italian songs are the most beautiful.
The most awesome video! I studied this in college & lady u r awesome! My family deal with this and my great grandparents had incredible stories about coming to Brooklyn. And they never said a bad word about anyone, a different breed of people. Keep punching! Another great video
I Had 2 Landlords who were Italian brother's and they were so nice to me, they were both in DETECTIVES IN NEWARK, they told me their father told them to never hurt Black people to always be kind and good to us, and they were. Our house caught on Fire the next-door neighbor's house started it. The youngest brother called the Oldest brother told him he needed a place for us to live, AND HE DID IT....THESE ARE THE CANTALUPO'S FROM NEW JERSEY, MIKE AND PAT.
Same for my Sicilian family.. my grandfather’s nickname was “Blacky” because of his dark complexion. I just found your channel and look forward to listening to all of your content as I’ve spent over a decade studying the 1800s. Really terrific work!
Are you referring to Louie Argento?
did you know that the Romans had strong trade ties with Southern India, the Romans and Greeks also had trade settlements in Southern India, they amassed most of their wealth from their trade with south India. they used to take ships laden with gold in exchange for black pepper. The dravidians are the original mediterranean and sumerian people who were in the west and east . In the West they were mixed with the Akkadians and Amorites and also the Indo aryan Lydians(neo Hittites) who also went into the Mediterranean and are known as the Minoans and Etruscans, they were dark and fair and had striaght to wavy hair
quote” The word 'Dravidian' comes from the Tamil words Tbirai Ahvidar, meaning 'sea people'. A popular Tamil saying was 'cross the oceans and acquire gold'
Quote” The Mediterranean Peoples (Dravidians)
(Extracts from ‘The Original Indians â€" An Enquiry’ by Dr. A. Desai)
How the Mediterranean people came to be called Dravidians makes interesting story. The Pre-Hellenistic Lycians of Asia Minor, who where probably the Mediterranean stock called themselves Trimmili. Another tribe of this branch in the island of Crete was known by the name Dr(a)mil or Dr(a)miz. In ancient Sanskrit writings we find the terms Dramili and Dravidi, and then Dravida which referred to the southern portion of India.
South India was known to the ancient Greek and Roman geographers as Damirica or Limurike. Periplus Maris Erithroei (Periplus of the Eritrean Sea) in the second or third century AD described the maritime route followed by Greek ships sailing to the South Indian ports: “Then follow Naoura and Tundis, the first marts of Limurike and after these Mouziris and Nelkunda, the seats of government.â€
Dramila, Dravida and Damirica indicated the territory. Then it was applied to the people living in the territory and the language they spoke, in the local parlance Tamil and Tamil Nadu or Tamilakam.
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The Mediterraneans or Dravidians were associated with the ancient Sumerian civilizations of Mesopotamia and of Elam (southern Iran). Authors have pointed out ethnic, linguistic and cultural affinities between the Sumerians (Mesopotamians) and the Dravidians of South India, and concluded that both probably belonged to the same ethnic stock. HR Hall writes: “The ethnic type of the Sumerians, so strongly marked in their statues and relofs was as different from those of the races which surrounded them as was their language from those of the Semites, Aryans and others; they were decidedly Indian in type. The face-type of the average Indian today is no doubt much the same as that of the Dravidian race ancestors thousands of years ago...And it is to this Dravidian ethnic type of India that the ancient Sumerian bears most resemblance, so far as we can judge from his monuments. He was very like a Southern Hindu of the Deccan (who still speaks Dravidian languages). And it is by no means improbable that the Sumerians were an Indian tribe which passed, certainly by land, perhaps also by sea, through Persia to the valley of the Two Rivers.â€
Hall is of the opinion that Dravidian people must have migrated to Mesopotamia from India, whereas others think Dravidians came from Mediterranean regions, which was their earlier home. KP Padmanabha Menon writes about their close relationship: “Orientalists, many of them, are prepared to concede that the Sumerians, the Mediterranean race, are branches of the early Dravidians.â€
Quote"Dravidians In Crete they were known by the name which the Greeks wrote as Termilai, in Asia Minor as 'Trimmili' or Trimalai (Sastri p60), and in India as Dramiza, Dravida, Dramila and finally Tamil. Their deity was "Mother-Earth" who gave them grain, vegetables and food. The 'Mother Goddess' cult belonged exclusively to Crete where it was known as Durgha (compare Trqqas mentioned in Lycian inscriptions in Asia Minor) as Uma or Parvati. (Sastri p61) They probably brought along with them to India this Mediterranean or Aegean Saivaism, Mother Goddess with her consort Siva.Dr K Loganathan
Inanna is the ancient Sumerian goddess of love
quote ⭐"Inanna[a] is an ancient Mesopotamian goddess associated with love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war, justice, and political power. She was originally worshipped in Sumer and was later worshipped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar⭐.[b] She was known as the "Queen of Heaven" and was the patron goddess of the Eanna temple at the city of Uruk, which was her main cult center. She was associated with the planet Venus and her most prominent symbols included the lion and the eight-pointed star. Her husband was the god Dumuzid (later known as Tammuz) and her sukkal, or personal attendant, was the goddess Ninshubur (who later became the male deity Papsukkal).
quote Astarte is one of a number of names associated with the chief goddess or female divinity of those peoples.[1] She is recorded in Akkadian as As-dar-tu (D), the masculine form of Ishtar.[2] The name appears in Ugaritic as ʻAthtart or ʻAṭtart (), in Phoenician as Ashtart or Aštart (), in Hebrew as Ashtoret (עשתרת).[2] The Hebrews also referred to the Ashtarot or "Astartes" in the plural. The Etruscan Pyrgi Tablets record the name Uni-Astre
quote"Astarte (Greek: Ἀστάρτη, Astártē) is the Hellenized form of the Middle Eastern goddess Astoreth (Northwest Semitic), a form of ⭐Ishtar (East Semitic), worshipped from the Bronze Age through classical antiquity. The name is particularly associated with her worship in the ancient Levant among the Canaanites and Phoenicians. She was also celebrated in Egypt following the importation of Levantine cults there. The name Astarte is sometimes also applied to her cults in Mesopotamian cultures like Assyria and Babylonia.
Quote"The Hyksos practiced horse burials, and their chief deity, their native storm god,⭐ Baal
Quote" The Canaanites and, whose language is very similar to the Hebrews worship (el) a ⭐bull god
Quote" Shapash is the Phoenician sun Goddess, called the "Torch of the Gods", or "Pale Shapash".
Tanit is also called Tinnit, Tannou, or Tangou. The name appears to have originated in Carthage (modern-day Tunisia), though it does not appear in local theophorous names.[4] She was equivalent to the moon-goddess ⭐Astarte
Quote `(Hittites This empire reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Suppiluliuma I, when it encompassed an area that included most of Asia Minor as well as parts of the ((((Northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia)))). After c. 1180 BC, the empire came to an end during the Bronze Age collapse, splintering into several independent "Neo-Hittite" city-states, some of which survived until the 8th century BC.
Quote Lydia arose as a Neo-Hittite kingdom following the collapse of the Hittite Empire in the twelfth century BC. According to Greek sources, the original name of the Lydian kingdom was Maionia.
Quote”The Hittites adopted many of the gods of the Sumerians and Old Babylonians
Quote
"The people of Akkad worshipped, as what is generally described as, the Sumerian religion, the mythology, rites, and cosmology of the Sumerian civilization, however there were differences between this religion and the one worshipped by the Akadians. These myths were passed down by oral tradition until the early Sumerian cuneiform was invented, and it wasn’t until the early dynastic period that religious writings became hymns and incantations.
The Akkadians worshipped the Sumerian triad of An, Enlil, and Enki, however they changed the names to Anu, Bel, and Ea. Anu and Ea were created between the union of Apsu and Tiamat, and along with them the rest of creation came."
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You do realize that Sicily was under Arab occupation from the year 827AD to 1091AD? A minority of Sicilians are descendants of those occupiers. It was the Normans who actually liberated the island over a period of thirty years. The Greek speaking residents of the island welcomed them. This is a reason of why there are also blond haired blue eyed Sicilians, even though there are some blond haired Greeks.
This was an amazing video. As a biracial Black woman from the South I literally empathize with the experiences you shared on the struggles of Italian-American immigrants. I pray that in my lifetime America will stop caring about having a racial and ethnic hierarchy. I think it’s important that we all have compassion for each other as humans because we all have more in common than many people think.
Well said.
America needs to have a conversation to get rid of racial hierarchies. A party is literally white washing history while erasing black history. It's really happening
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I hope so too but sometimes I loose faith when I see South Americans come here and call themselves white. Then I realize people are still trying to play the hierarchy game.
Amen to that ❤
It's very interesting learning more about italian american history. Thanks for the informative video
interesting history lesson, thanks
Years ago I met a woman from Sicily. I was shocked. She was very dark, much, much, darker than me with auburn hair. I and my family are considered African American despite our American Indian heritage. To be honest I had never seen anyone like her or since. I was absolutely floored at her appearance and probably stared. As I got to know her (as much as you can at work), I found out about her heritage. Plus, I had opportunity to study this and the way Italians, Chinese, and Mexicans, were treated in America along with African Americans or Negroes. However, southern Italians were elevated to “White” whereas African American despite being here for four hundred years with mixed ancestry are still considered Black. America is a racist country. Maybe not person to person but it is certainly baked into the system. The same can be said of our current immigration of people from India. They too are very dark people but are considered “White.” And those that made it to this designation of White quickly forgot and lacked compassion for those considered permanently Black even if Black skin is much lighter. Interesting and destructive to say the least. It would be beneficial if we were all Just Americans and judged by the content of our characters. But maybe that would be just too difficult.
Anyone considered different could have been lynched 100 years ago in some parts of the country. Those White folks didn't play. Don't get it twisted you say Mexican but what you should say is Latino. I agree overall though.
I remember in the 70s a tv commercial about pollution showing a Native American crying and them I found out he was Italian.
My mother was Southern Italian and, like me, had brown skin. I have never been fully comfortable with being considered white. I think some of that comes from knowing how my people were treated, some of it comes from the fact that overall, I’ve been treated better by non-whites than whites, and some of it because my skin is more like someone from Mexico, the Middle East, or North Africa.
I don’t know anyone who considers Indians as White 😂😂
Don’t spread fake stories .
@@AndrewUnruh They meant only the Southern Italians .
Northern and Central Italians were considered White because they looked like Germans .
Northern Italians were tall , white , Blonde hair and Well built .
On the other hand , Southern Italians were physically small , brown skinned .
I worked and studied in Louisiana. I even published a book about the French derived languages of Louisiana. When I first arrived there, I was surprised by the number of people of Sicilian descent. I just wanted to ad that Cajuns had also been victims of discriminations (and those people traditionally speak a langue derived from my own and come from my land). The were called "coonass", and were also considered "on the same level as negroes". On the other hand, Louisiana had a fair amount a free people of color too.
Opelousas, Louisiana had one of the largest free mulatto populations in America prior to the end of the Civil War, in 1865. Many of which were plantation owners and owned enslaved Africans. New Orleans is always the center of stories like that or historical events but as much can be said as in the town of Opelousas.
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Wow, i had no idea,...thank you for sharing...
I’m from SC, now living in NC, and I had always wondered why there wasn’t as strong of an Italian-American presence in the south as there is in the north, and only now do I have a plain and simple, clear to understand answer. And it really hurts, but it needed to be known and it needs to be shared. I really appreciate the way you presented the facts, here!
Italians don't do trailers
Traveling in Northern Italy, I noticed prejudice against southern Italians (similar to prejudice here, against Mexicans). I knew a woman of Northern Italian ancestry, who shared this prejudice even though she was born in California (she had never been to Italy). My Italian ancestor migrated from Northern Italy.
I am from northern italy(piedmont) and i can say that the prejudice is not very present anymore in younger generations. The fact is that northerns and southerns were VERY different from each other back in the day; and maybe to a lesser degree, we still are. Which translates in xenophobia in the less open minded older generations. While its factually true that southern Italy drains a lot of economic resources from the more developed north(as it happens, and should happen, in every country) theres a certain unwritten southern italian philosophy that everybody, expecially in the western world, can find very appealing. Family, friends, good food and being happy with less is what everybody needs in their life.
Similar to Mexicans?? I have never seen any Mexican specific prejudice, what are you talking about! I have seen racism when people speak Spanish, but Spanish is NOT unique to Mexicans or Mexico, and not everyone who speaks spanish is Mexican! So that was just such a dumb comment! Not every Latino is Mexican man, read a book! If Mexicans face racism, then that means that Cubans and Pureto Ricans face lynchings right now becuase Mexicans have always had betters rights them in the entire history of this country. Im guessing you did not know that or will claim it is a lie becuase you live in red neck town where books dont exist!
When I was in college I had a girlfriend who shared an apartment with a blonde-haired blue-eyed woman from Northern Italy. When one of the women in the upstairs apartment, an Italian-American, found out that an Italian was living downstairs she came down to introduce herself. When the Italian woman asked the upstairs neighbor where her family was from her demeanor instantly changed when she said that her family was from Sicily.
This was 35 years ago. I hope the current generation isn’t as bigoted.
It's the same thing in France. I lived in the south for a long time and there s definitely between the more Nordic northern France and the south. There's both ethnic and linguistic descrimination. In France they know where you're from based on your accent.
We have too many Mexicans in this country though. They don’t learn English and they don’t assimilate 😫. I SHOULDNT have to learn Spanish because you liberals are letting the ethnics take over and not assimilate. Mexicans should be speaking exclusively English and baking casseroles by this point. But we’ve failed to assimilate them AT ALL.
Thank you for this, I studied genetics and People in history and chronology and geography.
It’s just amazing how life is so revealing once you study as much of history and culture, and the planet,
where people have lived, it’s remarkable how much you learn once you don’t throw out anybody’s history, all history
don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater!
How much you learn and how much so many pieces of the puzzle creates the complete picture.
Thank you. Good morning you’ve added a big piece to the human picture on planet Earth.
I’m from Philly (huge Italian population) and here Dago is pronounced “day-goh.” I don’t hear it much these days, but heard it a lot growing up. Mainly btw Italian friends teasing each other. Great video! Thanks for sharing this info!
Thank you for spreading the word about the Italian lynchings. My grandparents were also immigrants from Palermo via New Orleans to pick sugar cane in the late 1800s. I would love to understand more about this history and look forward to seeing more from you.
I'm sorry sir but no one picks sugar cane they cut it That's what my grandparents did too and donaldsonville Louisiana when they first came here in 1902
I’m so sick of hearing about race and shit that happened 100 years ago which nobody cares about now
Somewhere, somebody fooled people into thinking that there is power in victimhood
That’s a lie. There’s power in Jesus and the Bible never mentions his race for a reason. Because it’s inconsequential and it’s a distraction just like endless lineage DNA studies.
Stop obsessing over melanin Content , and pigmentation. It’s not your identity.
@lee_9837 But don't also forget that North Africans are not the same things as Sub-Saharan Africans. You colonizers should leave North Africans alone too😠
@@lee_9837 Europeans are Caucasian. Not white.
watch the movie (vendetta 1999) and you will know more...
Fascinating but sad history. As a Caribbean American teen I was aware of the prejudice faced by Italians when they came to America due research done for a term paper in high school. However, I don't remember reading about the lynchings. Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention. It's time we all embrace, learn from , and appreciate each other as individuals and celebrate our diverse cultural backgrounds.
I never heard the term “Caribbean American” before.
Is that a Haitian, a Dominican, a Jamaican or a Puerto Rican? Most of those do not want to be compared with each other.
@@dietlindvonhohenwald448Everything you said is a load of unseasoned bull caribbean American is a thing same as aaian American.
@@tazzy4624 Relax buddy, they where just asking.
All over the place. Hundreds in Colorado. Like it was a sport. The Tampa ones make me the proudest
@@mrcocoloco7200 They were not just asking. It was a disingenuous, loaded, comment.
Sicilians have dark skin because the island of Sicily was once ruled by the Arabs, Greeks, Spanish, French and a few others. Many of the northern Italians treated us as outcasts because of this. Sicilians have a separate language from mainland Italy as well. Much discrimination even exists between south and north Italians in Australia. There's a movie called "Cabrini" that's based on a true story about early Italian migration to the US, it's a great piece of history.
Thanks for teaching us. I truly appreciate learning this. It’s a shame it happened, but it’s important to know.
Thanks for watching!
I grew up in a largely italian community and have been called a dago my whole life in both good and bad ways. I was under the impression that I was not italian because I had no known italian lineage, but my mother never knew who her father was. I never claimed to be italian and would refute being identified as one by explaining my father is part greek and lebanese and that’s why i have mediterranean features. I definitely thought being italian would’ve been awesome and would’ve made me fit in more with community but i didn’t think it was my heritage to claim. After both me and my mom did dna tests, I did ancestry and she did 23 and me to cover more grounds on relatives, we found her father. He was an Italian man with roots in caserta, campagna and palermo, sicily. My maternal grandmother had an affair with her best friends husband. She kept my moms biological father a secret out of shame. All those years I sat back wishing I could join the community. I even took italian in high school for four years because I loved the language and culture. I really appreciate videos like these that help me learn more about our heritage and ancestors’ stories! thank you!
Wow I would love to be Italian to, Italians are cool. I came up to age in the era of Lady Gaga, Colby O'Donis, Jersey Shore. I most likely might have some Dago Blood in me from British American slavery, and I recently found out that besides the British, France & Spain owned the Deep South where my family is originally from before it was given up to the United States in 1796. They came up from Old Mexico, the Southwest, the Gulf Coast, French Canada, the Caribbean, the Mediterranean, Macaronesia and settled the swamps where my ancestors lay, ❤ 🇮🇹🇪🇦🇫🇷🇹🇷🇦🇲 🙂
Ur family history reads like a porn story thanks.
@@lawtonsfinest8622 --That Sounds COOL ALSO !!
Mediterranean/southern europeam = white but unfortunately americans are mostly of northern european descent (german and english) that's why we were looked like "lesser white"
What an eye-opening video! As a first generation Mexican who grew up in the Midwest, I clearly remember how my father had this undercurrent of love for the Italians in our neighborhood in Chicago. He would even root for the Italian team in the World Cup!
This made me so happy to read for some reason
Similar culture cause of southern europe. Both groups are not anglo saxon
70% of Spanish and Italian words are mutually intellegible as both languages are an evolution of vulgar latin.
Then WHY do some Italians practice the SAME bigotry against Black people?? There are SO many immigrant groups that practice this same bigotry once they’ve transitioned into the so called American dream??
Italy and italians no matter the pregiudices, mafia, no white, pizza and spaghettis ect, ect, ect, has been one of most important and influencia people in human history in all sense , art, science, culture , Rome , florrence, Milan ect, ect, no matter what people who knows history said or not, At the end of this day and the ones to come , the country that it self (USA) named AMERICA , was discover for the New world by a italian Cristoforo columbus) the name tha they use for calling they self AMERICA , is Am italian fermale name, the first european man that arrive to colonize de capital of world (NY) was an italian ( VERRAzZANO) and the every one of them , keep goin eaten italian pizza, spaghetti, buy ing a Ferrari and drive ir with Dolce Habana or Bulgari suite, a gelato,lasagna ect, ect, ect, seaten confortable see ing a Robert deniro or al pacino in taxi driver or the Deer hunter movies or maybe hearing “in my way “ for Frank Sinatra and franki Valli , thats mean maybe for sure , a lot of parta that they proclame of their greatness of AMERICAN to the world , is a bebts the they have with ITALIANS greatness.❤️🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹❤️
Thank you for shedding light on this event.
You barely touched on HOW Italians became White in America, except for briefly talking about Columbus Day.
Add more of your complex heritage, I'd love to hear about it.
BTW The slur is pronounced "Day-go". I've been the butt of it and you don't forget.
I thank you so much for this informatyou are the best that ever did it
I have Italian ancestry on my father's side, and you've answered so many questions that I've always wondered about my great great grandparents that immigrated here in 1904. I appreciate the research you have done.
I appreciate that. Hidden history is often the most incredible
You have South Italian ancestry at most and this video shows what happened to some of them non to all Italians. North and Central Italian didn't undergo anything of the kind, first because very few and second because they were feature and cultural wise different from South Italians.
Mine too. I doubt that we're cousins though as I know all of them from the offshoot of that side and it's extremely small, unless you are a 2nd or third cousin, that's possible.
My grandmother spoke of being harassed on her way to Polish school. Most immigrants were and are vulnerable to attack and being taken advantage of. Thank you for this well done video.
That is so heart breaking. I did one on the Polish as well, they had a hard story here. ua-cam.com/video/Jd0vKaIpM6A/v-deo.html
I've learned that the Italian, Irish and Polish were discriminated against because when they immigrated over to the US, the greatest plurality of them were Catholic, and members of Protestant denominations felt threatened since the US was founded on grounds of religious freedom from the Catholic Church.
Then become the abusers..
@@terencelee7761I was JUST about to say that! How can you expect us to feel bad for them when they turned around and did the EXACT same thing to black people? I don’t, and that’s that!🤷🏽♀️
Europeans are celtic, not white.
Thanks for tour contribution. As an italian teacher in Italy,it's important to learn the immigrant's stories and how they were treated by the "locals". Grazie mille e buon lavoro!
I live in the rural New Orleans area. My grandparents and my husband's grandparents came from Sicily. Though we are proud of our heritage, we are very familiar with the struggle that they endured. Our area is known as The Bloody Tangipahoa, after the brutally killed Sicilians being dumped in our rivers and swamps. Our names follow us, and we are still judged by some. Racism endures here. Hard work and education were the equalizers. The lighter color of our skin, like your grandmother's, allowed us to blend easier. We feel the plight of African Americans and hate the racial tensions between all Americans. I look forward to your future videos, and I appreciate your research, especially the oral histories you have sought out.❤
Im from New Orleans too. My family descends from Tangipahoa. And thats not why they called it “Bloody Tangipahoa” look up a book called Pistols and Politics by Sam Hyde and you will understand more the meaning behind that name. (Although I didnt know bout Sicilians being dumped in the water there it would make sense in a way.)
Violence was the great equalizer of that area.
I am from that area too. I heard about the history,in the 70s, schools there were integrated and past local history was not twisted or sugarcoated. Mother’s side, Sicilian descent
I began school there after integration.
My grandparents came from Napoli to NYC in 1905. Im half Italian and Puerto Rican. I knew about how Italians weren’t considered white until the 20th century but had no idea about the violent history in New Orleans. You hear so much about Italian immigrants settling in areas like NYC, NJ, and Boston.
Same, my family went right to NYC and stayed in NY. I had no idea some Sicilians made it down South. I think some of my dad's family came from Napoli as well! I remember seeing that on a manifest.
Your grandparents probably went to NYC because they were wyt Italians
None of those cities (maybe NYC) received more Sicilian/Immigrants than New Orleans.
It was hard for jews too. Being beat up a lot. New york was better but not great but they had each other and made successful kids. In the midwest it was horrible. Henry ford and father coughlin.
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Some Jews were very prosperous slave owners in the South
I am familiar with the history of how Italians became white, as with others like Irish. I had a very interesting conversation with an Italian physician who was so bothered by racial injustice towards Black people who shared his story of growing up in Detroit. Italians lived in the same area as Black people and were subjugated to inequities and prejudices. Hearing these stories reminds me of the importance of sharing and understanding our history.
It also doesn't escape me the role of skin color and colorism plays into the construction of race. I now focus on the construct of whiteness as a standard that is used as a measuring tool towards acceptance. What if we turned our attention to the meaning of what it means to be white in the United States (and maybe European). I bet we would get closer to the root of why being white is such a powerful construct that even people have fought in court to be considered white. And when we peel back the layers of the white construct you'll find the caste hierarchical structures that reinforce power and control over even if those considered white.
Many Asians and Indians classify themselves as White and look down on the Black people.
It's bizarre that the irish were not considered white when they are the whitest of whites
Beautifully stated.
Italians were never black. Try checking DNA why are some blacks, so intent to change truth history to fit black. As. White, I have no need to change truth history to fit white. Because history proves it's self not color.
Of course, whites were the standard. They were the overwhelming majority in the country.
Good day! I don't know how or why your video happened upon my 'suggested videos' to watch on UA-cam, but I'm glad it did.
As a person who was born and raised in New Orleans, I'm sure you can understand my deep since of pride in my ethnicity and culture. To be clear, I don't view my culture as just 'black', but of Native American, Dutch, German, Spanish, French, Italian, Haitian, and all others that have influenced my port city.
As you're well-aware, Port cities are diverse because of the various people from different parts of the region or world that pass through and sometimes remain indefinitely. New Orleans was and is no different in that aspect. I would dare to state that this is what makes us unique.
I was born and raised in the Magnolia Projects from uptown New Orleans. My father left my mother when I was a baby. My older male cousins were my male role models. I learned the basics of survival from mostly my great grandmother who was from Hazlehurst, Mississippi. I explain this so that the readers can get a better idea of New Orleans and some of the demographics, specifically the folks who were and still are impoverished.
Of course I studied Louisiana History and New Orleans History in high school and a little bit in college. I knew about the NOPD Police Chief back in the late 1890s and what happened with the Italians. I love history and do all I can to study it proper.
Thank you for this video. You have a new subscriber. 😊
The paternal side of my family is Italian and Spaniard but from the Dominican Republic, when my 3rd great grandfather Marco Fortuna left Atina, Italy for Dominican Republic and married into a Spaniard family, I’ve never been aware of this information, thank you for telling the world about the experience of Italian immigrants to America.
This was very interesting. My grandmother and grandfather on my mother’s side were Sicilian immigrants. My grandmother said she experienced a lot of prejudice when she came as a young child because she couldn’t speak English. My great grandfather had trouble finding work because he was Italian. When my grandmother married a fellow Italian, they lived in an area that was mostly Italian and Jewish. I know my family would sometimes refer to themselves as Dagos (pronounced day go) or wops, but it was a huge insult to hear it come from someone else. I never knew about the lynchings or the connections to Columbus Day. I’m proud to be an Italian American.
As you should be
Sign on a shop decades before your granny arrived: "No dogs or Irish allowed."
@@xhagast Every immigrant group has their hardships.
@@dawnlovescouture2644 Just showing the irrationality.
I’m born and raised in New Orleans. The top of my family tree is a Sicilian man and a mulatto women. By the world I’m considered black. I’ve been trying to find more about the Sicilian part of my family. My grandfather has been shedding light on a lot of it. I found your videos looking for more about him. If you want anymore info on the family dynamics with Sicilians and Black people my family has lived it first hand I’m sure they could help
Yeah maybe he was clever choosing a woman and not a dry white cornbread 😂 oh do I hurt the feelings of some wasp 😂😂😂 ??? - I have blue eyes and I am white but not one day I denied my Neapolitan heritage! Hunting someone because of a skin colour makes me sick even after breakfast.
Italians have played a huge part in New Orleans’ history
And they created the Muffaletta 😋
Africans and Sicilians lived virtually next door to eachother before coming here AND THEY INTER- married and traded with each other for Centuries before migrating here. Older PURE- blooded Sicilians who were not prejudiced are generally aware that their ancestry has African Ancestry as well. Check the DNA to see what the per cent age is.
@@bonitahobbs2374 awesome thank you.
@@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272 I’m not offended , I’m also not offended because you’re an ignoramus
Good video, but I was hoping you would get more into the difference between the Southern Italians & the Northern Italians
My family is from Sicily. Wow! Had no idea. Thank you.
Italians are such wonderful people and have contributed so much to this country...their cuisine, their art, their music, their architecture, their natural beauty! I think this hatred stems from pure jealously!
Stereotypes. Italians are normal humans like everyone else. I say that as an Italian. Romanticizing Italy was what exacerbated the problem in the 1950's. Let's put it an end.
Don’t forget beautiful Italian Sophia Loren
Well you are right sadly in my case I’ve encountered racist Italians it is quite ironic 😅
They are very racists, not all but many. Especially those from the North. My mum worked with a black woman who was invited to Italy by her Italian work colleague, the girls grandma was horrified that her granddaughter allowed a black person sleep in her bed. She told her to throw away the bed sheet. Sounds extreme but a it’s a true story.
@@Roseau112Italians are horrible and so racists. I follow a black American travel page. They were treated so awful. Changing my plans. I’m ok with seeing Big Ben a Fifth time.
This is the same with the Mexican race. I’m 60 years old and my birth certificate identified me as white. My Beloved Father who was a World War Two Veteran and whose Father also was a World War One Veteran would tell me stories of how not just the blacks were racially discriminated and abused but so were Mexican’s and Italian’s. I, at so young an age couldn’t understand why people of other ethnicities that fought for America could be treated differently because of the color of skin or ethnicity. Thank you for sharing.🙏🏽🌹✌🏻😎❣️
Because they were used for the benefit of a false foundation. I encourage you to dig deeper to actually understand who your ancestors were and are. You just might realize what was forcefully taken and I could only hope you reclaim it one day.
Yes, many Mexicans were lynched also but no one talks about it. I dunno if it’s because Mexicans often identify as White so now they don’t want to talk about it or what.
In Mexico I can never own land or vote , participate in protests against government policy .
@@MaryLou913 FyI Mexicans are being lynched daily in Mexico . Mexican police just found 45 garbage bags filled with the body parts of an entire call center.
Mexicans are not a separate race, we’re an ethnicity composed mainly of Native American and European blood. My belief is that when we are forced to categorize ourselves most of us do not check off the “Native American” box because typically that applies to Native American tribes of the US, which we are not. So, that really only leaves us with the “white” box to check off since nothing else really applies. Sometimes we get the option to elaborate a little further and have an additional option to select Hispanic/Latino which I presume most people do. I wish they would just add a box we could check to say “human “
Very informative video. I have been a history teacher for 26 years. While I knew that Italian immigrants faced adversity, I had not heard of the lynching in Louisiana.
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