Agreed. In crossovers, she was one of the strongest characters and actresses. She portrays supergirl very well. Optimistic but also troubled, as she is still younger than her cousin, but also very smart and can even manage to out think the man of steel himself! I love her as a character but her show is just so flawed. Melissa and the character deserve better
@@moonlightrider24 Actually, one of the reasons why I stopped liking Supergirl is because the show degraded Superman. Supergirl even beats him in a fight. In fact the show degraded most straight, white male characters over its 6 years run. I hated the wokeism. The show stopped doing the things I did enjoy such as the close relationship between the Danvers sisters.
@@alexanderk7353 I'm pretty sure they are putting Supergirl in a movie soon, but it's not going to be Melissa playing her unfortunately, it's some Latino woman, because of course it is. They have to cast the 'woke' choice if they want to get the praise....
ever since the cw started making a complete dive in quality, my brother and i started watching the shows with the intention of rating it on a cringe scale, and today we finally got to the supergirl finale, and oh boy, did it not disappoint.
s1-s2 and most of season 3 were the show's glory days, after that, it went downhill. They stopped focusing on kara and sidelined Melissa in her own show, especially in season 5 when it was literally all about Lena
Kara balancing her identity between Kara Danvers and Supergirl has been a recurring issue, but despite that, revealing her identity might actually be ths stupidest idea possible. It's safe to assume Esme will be getting kidnapped 10 times a month...
What's dumb though is it WASN'T Kara Danvers vs Supergirl, bc sg isn't a person she's just a disguise. The conflict was about Kara Danvers vs Kara ZOR-EL. But they just ignored her actual identity dilemma and chose the dumbest laziest ending and gaslighted us that her secret identity was the problem the whole time, instead of what they actually established.
It's like they totally forgot about that one episode It's a Super Life where in one of their little realty simulations Kara's identity is exposed globally and all her friends and family were killed by Ben Lockwood.
Also her weakness to kryptonite is well known and it wouldn't be a surprise if a assassin is hidden somewhere with a rifle pointed out at her or a local coffee shop employee who has a grudge against her slips kryptonite poison in her daily morning coffee.
Unpopular opinion, but I rewatched season 1-2 of supergirl and they’re not as bad as I remember or people say it to be. Of course it suffers from cringe and poor quality in some episodes but in others it’s good to see Kara actually be the main focus of her show for once.
@Mostaverse eh for me it’s *kind of * like flash s3, where people hated it at first, but now that I rewatched it it’s actually half decent. It’s a show about Kara where Supergirl is the hero, not Sentinel, Guardian, Guardian 2.0, Dreamer, Lena, Andrea, etc. I liked quite a lot of episodes, mainly where Barry showed up, solitude, the krypton one, j’onns episode, red kryptonite one, human for a day, and where Kara learned how her mother used her to trick Astra. If you look at IMDb, Supergirl S1 is surprisingly the highest rated season of the series cuz it doesn’t necessarily have a “terrible, horrible episode”. I’ll admit tho that Non, Astra, and Rhea were actually horrible villains, some of the absolute worst in the arrowverse, but aside from that it’s not too bad
I can't be the only one who absolutely despises Alex's superhero suit, AND the fact that she's a superhero. Why is the CW making practically the entire cast superheros, shit we might aswell have Cat Grant roll up in a star spangled unitard. Belive me, Alex Danvers was more badass as a DEO agent. Swooping down from a helicopter, with her Assault rifle slinged around her chest, than this. Her suit is god AWFUL! Her superhero suit retracted and discontinued my negative opinion about Alex's Supergirl suit, or Barry's Season 4 suit. The thick eyeliner and the hood makes her look like a 9th grade emo kid. Her thick black eyeliner and her hood over her face, and her short hair makes her look like she's that weird emo kid who you see walking down the hall always with their hood on, listening to "Cut my life into Peices" and always ranting about how life is meaningless. I'm more than happy that this SHOW is ending.
@pnorbert2222 Yeah. It's Iike what the guy said in the video. They're trying to hard to send a message, rather than to make a good story. They're focusing so much on the characters menial problems that the story is like dragging a cinderblock through mud in a 10 dollar RC car. They make Supergirl more like a Romantical-drama, rather than an action superhero show. Superman and Lois does both of those things seamlessly. I'm actually really proud of the show, it brings credibility to the CW network.
I remember Young Justice had it to where Red Tornado was put on the Justice Society of America as a plant by his father/creator where he would eventually betray and destroy them but he rebelled against him.
Yer they should kill of the rest of the shows and have titans doom patrol superman and lou stargirl and add the missing charictors to them showing wonder woman then you have a batman and family and a superman family as it should be with all the main players at hand in good quality shows then just do a proper mini justice league seasons 4 or 5 eps story witch would act as cross overs in between each season of there own shows that would be my plan just take one or two of the other chari tors like digal and mick or heatwave si.ply because he's such a great charictor have dig as a greenlantern in there universes crossing between the 4 shows to link them maybe a oliver return here and ther but in there universe as he was a little darker and would fit in ok with there shows more and bingo .kill the fake bat Ryan off as she has know right wearing that suit who are thay kidding she couldn't beat her way out of melting chocolate let alone be a bat she'd be dead on the first outing in reality how awful at least bats and Oliver have trained there skills all there lifes what has she got errors nout in a spout a useless girl in a gimp suit what a joke those criminals would have finished her in 1 .such bad writing and like Bruce wouldn't have had contijancy plans in play if he was gone the pennyworths or dick would have been the holder of wine enterprises so what a lot of crop and batwoman never had anything to do with the waines letcalone some how just inheritance of it would have gone to her father as the right full living air not cane but as it goes with her missing the ownership would then have gone to allis not ryan so in my eyes alas should have inherited it and it would be cooler to have done allis going of to find herself and maybe tracking Bruce's footstep s with would result in her training properly .meating the league of shadows on her jurny finding out of damson existence and returning to have changed in to a real bad ass with damion as her Robin for now till he's older to take his inheritance. She's colder and has more of that darkness needed to be the bat for now
Yeah that is ruining every thing these days i can deal with a gay sister if its not forced but when that weird dude dresding up like a girl came in i wad like yeah im done
That's for sure, I mean if they wanted to present a strong independent woman, SG was it. No team ups ( barely), political agendas, giving her reasonable bad villains from the comics... and a better disguise.
@@Mirrorcomics24 Legally speaking, Kara Danvers and Clark Kent aren’t related so people would only assume the Kents are just friends of Kara probably due to being in the same journalism profession.
Remember how Smallville ended? It ended with Clark getting the suit. A lot of people were kinda pissed that we didn't get to see it but I had a different opinion. We weren't meant to see it cuz the show is called Smallville. As soon as clark got his iconic suit hes no longer Clark but superman. I thought that was some clever writing and overall it was a finale. It wrapped up so many plot threads and in the end, the final threat was worthy of having superman come in and save the day. It treated the story and characters with respect and it was their final hurrah and I almost cried seeing it end Supergirl on the other hand is like that grape on the vine that never got to be a grape lol seriously I stopped watching around season 2 and I knew it became cringier but man was that some high grade cringe Also that creature that made that "dont touch me without consent" line was Alex? Why does she look like a methhead that found a nice leather jacket? Holy crap they did her dirty
I was re watching Smallville and I think one of the things that makes it my favorite CW show(despite it having its own flaws) is that there's an arc that Clark has over the series,it may be very dragged out but an arc, of him becoming Superman and all the trials that lead him to that moment. The problem I notice with a lot of the current shows is there's no real arc the lead is going through at best Oliver had to become less aggressive and alone in his way but even with that felt like it came in out of the series. But looking at Barry and Kara there's no real arc they really have to go through.
@@mikemorro140 it's part of the reason why the first 5 seasons of supernatural were the best. There was the multi seasonal arc of Sam and Dean preparing to fight Lucifer in the apocalypse. All of their adventures had a purpose, even if it looks minuscule. It leads to that final battle and the pay off is absolutely worth it. The seasons after that they were kinda winging it cuz they weren't expecting more seasons. That's why they were reduce to just seasonal threats and the show kinda ran out of steam Smallville was similar but a longer arc. Each trail, no matter how small, paved way for Clark to become Superman. And yes I am including the episode where he got possessed by a drama queen who wanted the prom queen crown lmao I love Smallville so much
The reason it was infuriating we didn’t see him wearing the suit was because the show had already had mukltille seasons where he was doing the Superman thing. The “red blue blue” bit was so cringe
A few episodes before this, there was a whole episode about how supergirl didn’t save enough people of color, and even Alex’s girlfriend turned on Alex and basically the whole team because apparently they don’t do enough for that community. Even though they spent season after season saving the whole world lol. The show even had Alex buy a copy of that trash book, white fragility and had it on her coffee table at the end of the episode. Lol.
@@Grand_Kitchen well you should check that episode out and see for yourself lol. I was actually physically rolling my eyes repeatedly and almost quit watching the episode. Still haven’t watched the last 2 episodes.
So let’s be real. Superman and Lois was pretty great. Can’t wait to see them get ruined. The only thing that helped Supergirl was Melissa Benoist and she deserved a comic accurate Kara Zor El
I doubt it. Superman & lois has very short seasons, meaning they skip over a lot of filler and the writers don't have to write as much. Also, hbo max is involved, so if the cw is about to go to far and make a dumb decision, they'll stop them.
The first episode itself had my eyes rolling with the stupid line: "On my planet, females bow before males". It's one thing to create a strong female superhero, but to try this hard with all the obnoxious virtue signalling, just makes the show a total cringefest. If you feel the need to keep stressing "girl power", you're not doing a good job. The writers should've learned a thing or two from Wonder Woman
Supergirl in the early comics almost NEVER talked like that (feminazi trash). She loved the men in her life, realized she was young and needed guidance until she mastered her powers (which Superman helped her with), and was willing to admit when she screwed up. This show is NOT the traditional character I've read.
This was really the last Arrowverse show I planned on seeing all the way through. I’ll still watch Superman and Lois, but that’s about it for the new shit. Shame to see that aside from Arrow, it all ends not with a bang, but a whimper
Stargirl is a great show with apparently insanely talented people behind it. Cause the writing, the pacing and especially the effects are so much better than everywhere else in the Arrowverse (apart from SaL) with a budget I don't believe is that significantly higher. You should give it a try if you hadn't yet.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Supergirl show is more focused on saying its message then telling a Supergirl story. Thats the sad truth for the audience that cares about her inclusion in the universe, but i guess i can accept it for the little kids out there learning morals from this show.
It's a political message shoved in everybody's throat which is cringe and stupid. All SG tv show needed to be was an origins story while meeting other people and heroes.
It's not even that I disagree with the messages Supergirl is saying. But it comes across as so condescending and inauthentic that it just pisses me off.
One of the many problems is that the writers wanted to be political (mainly after season1), instead of telling a good story, this is happening with all Cw's shows.
That's not a good thing. I been saying that if they do that then a recasting is in order. Cryer's Lex doesn't fit the tone of Superman and Lois. They could do it. And hopefully with an explanation as to why he looks different. I've spoken against recasting but if you can make it make sense with an in story explanation then it can work i think. It might be necessary for this case.
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu I mean, Kal-El was a joke in Supergirl and now he basically defeated his half-brother and saved the world. They could make Jon Cryer's Luthor into an actual threat too
2:49 That picture reminds me that there's a crazy section of Supergirl fans who thought Kara Danvers and Lena Luthor, 2 straight women would become a lesbian couple. Yet more proof that shippers don't care about story, characters, acting, writing or any of the actual important things about a show. Only about people's romantic relationships and sexualities.
If you think the "Don't touch me without consent" was cringy there is an episode on this season where Jimmy Olsen's sister (the new guardian) spends the whole episode bitching and complaining that Super Heroes don't care about black people. SUPER CRINGY!
Sounds like Batwoman's Ryan Wilder who thinks any criticism the other characters give her or them questioning her in any way is racism, was rightly arrested for drug possession because both her and her girlfriend were drug dealers but says racist Gotham cops planted them on her and set her up when they didn't, thought Jacob Kane not wanting to shoot Alice since she's his daughter was him not shooting her because she's white, one of the cop characters was turned into a comically evil racist then a Bane ripoff just because he told Ryan to turn loud music down. She goes on as if there's a giant racist conspiracy against her when there isn't. Even Luke, a black man is called racist for not submitting to Ryan Sue.
@@thomasraines1396 Yeah if you thought the CW version of Kate Kane was bad Ryan's even worse. It shocks me that Batwoman has 3 seasons. It should have been quickly cancelled after how bad Season 1's trailer was.
@@thomasraines1396 Another stupid thing Ryan does is in a flashback to when she was younger. She got kidnapped by a madwoman who tried to force her to join a gang. But when these people who were looking for missing kids came along Ryan decided that because they were trying to rescue missing kids in general no matter their race instead of looking for her specifically they were somehow racist.
@@disneyerapowerrangers2923 even though it's cringey family storyline atleast we got to see some speedforce stuff which is good since the storyrunner even came out saying he doesn't feel like making Barry Allen stories anymore.
I thought the finale was conclusive but it was also an "and the adventure continues" setup. Not every show has to end with the protagonist dying. (It was certainly more of a series finale than Black Lightning, which felt far more like a standard season finale.) They get to end their current stories on the show, and then they just get to live. The only storyline that didn't seem to have gotten to a good conclusive point was Andrea Rojas' storyline, which felt more like it got to a turning point, then skipped to the very end (and this is after her development was rolled back between the season premiere and the mid-season premiere). Nyxly was very powerful when she got to Earth. But then the Super Friends developed a device to keep her from using her powers, which Mxyzptlk put on her (and she was introduced with a dampener placed on her by her father), so her only source of power was the crystal ball that she trapped Mxy in, the totems, and the Lexosuit armor that Lex gave her. In her first villainous appearances, she was completely overpowered, and the dampener (which stayed on for the rest of the show) was the only thing keeping her threat level manageable. This was a lackluster final season, quite frankly. The first half of the season was just awful, especially with the drawn-out Phantoms arc. And the mid-season finale was quite possibly the worst episode in the entire show, right up there with the gun control episode.
2021 Arrowverse season big bads ranked 1. Eclipso (another great dark villain in the Arrowverse with a cool design as his rivalry with the JSA shines by playing on their deepest and darkest fears) 2. Tal-Rho (while i have mixed feelings about Tal-Rho being Superman's half-brother, i definitely do think he was a very well written character as he was essentially the Arrowverse adaptation of the Eradicator) 3. Black Mask (cool mask design as well as the actor giving a pretty good and menacing performance) 4. Lex Luthor (although him being a love interest to Nyxly was a weird direction to go for this character, Jon Cryer still shines as the iconic Lex Luthor who has pretty much made a good rivalry with the Superfriends, especially his half-sister Lena) 5. Tobias Whale (as the final big bad of Black Lightning, i say that this was Tobias' very best season as the main villain as he really almost made Jefferson lose everything) 6. Nyxlygsptlnz (as one of the final main villains of Supergirl, Nyxly was a rather interesting and enjoyable character to see onscreen) 7. Godspeed (while he does have a very comic accurate costume, August Heart's character and storyline should have been developed more) 8. Speed Force (while the storyline with the Forces sucked, i do think that Michelle Harrison gives at least a decent performance as a villain) 9. Safiyah Sohail (an interesting connection to Alice, but i think Safiyah lacked development as she pretty much disappeared after 2x08 and return again very late near the finale of the season) 10. Bishop (clearly THE worst villain ever in the Arrowverse as he is so annoying and unbelievable that he was responsible for the events of Legends S6)
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 yes. There's still some flaws about his character, but this potrayal of Black Mask is more better than what Ewan McGregor did in Birds of Prey
Lol, I swear this the funniest video you've made personally. I love how your recent videos show a lot more of your personality. And its honestly good to see some people actually realize how much of shit the CW has become. Do you think for your next video, you can chat about Spider-Man No Way Home?
its because they have to write for so many episodes. An average cw show season will have 22-20 episodes, and each episode is 40-50 minutes long. And the writers have to write tons of scripts for them, and sometimes have to do that for multiple shows. So they pad the seasons out with filler and soap opera stuff, and the overall quality dissipates as a result. A solution to this is very simple. Make the season shorter. Make the average season 13-9 episodes, and skip over all the soap opera and filler so the writers can flesh out the story and make a good plot. Hell, make the season 6 episodes like the marvels shows are doing. That would increase the budget and quality of every episode without taking up nearly as much time.
Another thing about Supergirl that was bizarre, was the fact that a Blue Star kills all males, as if the energy of a young Star discrimates against men, I wouldn't be suprised if the blue sun killing men was an innuendo for killing the Patriarchy. Every male character in Supergirl was made weak and basically beta males. Which is sad as MMH is a beast power wise, he deserved better.
Yeah and in the comics a blue star powers up a Kryptonian way more than a yellow star but the series showed that she doesn't have power under blue star. It pissed me off too
@@GameZone-ib7eu I'm so glad they haven't nerfed Superman in Superman and Lois, they seem to have him at a very high level of power, not comic book levels, but not nerfed like they had Supergirl, I mean she needed a spacesuit in space and needed it to develop thrust also, she couldn't survive under water also and could suffocate, she was very low leveled. And in one of the last episodes of the final season, she was flinching when a guy shot her with a normal handgun also, low grade firearms should not have budged her at all.
@Ghost Arcade that maybe true, but the whole Supergirl premises carries heavily an SJW PC narritive and its pretty obvious to me that the male characters in that show are essentially beta males. Even in the Flash, the Flash is nothing, Iris is essentially the Flash without having being him. Superman and Lois is different they both compliment each other and not one sided like it has been in all of Supergirls seasons. The last episode of Supergirl was the height of cringe when Alex was shooting at a Dominator "don't touch me without consent", there should be a balance with male and female characters and I didn't see that in Supergirl.
I quit when Supergirl's sister lost her memory. Such a contrived plot point and their friendship was one of the best parts of the show, so I checked out.
She did not lose her memory, J'onn (Martian Manhunter) simply removed her knowledge of Kara being Supergirl from her mind, that's it. Losing your memory means forgetting everything about yourself as a person, including your own name
I haven't watched a single full episode of Supergirl(exculding the Crisis episode) since the episode where The Monitor took Lex's dead body. I decided to watch the series finale & tell me why when the world was losing hope and whatever else it reminded me of that powerpuff girls episode where the clown was draining the colour from the world 😂😂
The fact that Lex is banished to the Phantom Zone by anyone other than Superman is a war crime. Also, her revealing her identity screws over Clark, who hadn’t chosen that and is famously her cousin. Boo and a half.
How did you manage to sit through any of these shows from the CW they make nothing but pure trash soap opera level story telling and school play level acting.
I had to force myself these last few seasons. I was already invested into it. So I really wanted to see how it end at least. But it was killing me! Glad it's over
between the talk no jutsu of the main character and the terrible pandering dialogue... one couldnt believe that Superfeminist could fall any further but it has, even nixing more Superman villains like Metallo, Lex, Parasite and having a Fem Mixy. It makes me wonder if theres anything original about this character or her history. I feel sad being a fan of the character in the comics and animation but the live action leaves such a dark blot on the legacy.
The word cringe is getting old and annoying now. But you are right about supergirl. After episode 12 I couldn't stomach it anymore. The blm episode was totally unnecessary and one of the worst ones yet. And this coming from a black guy. Alan Harper did okay as lex Luthor but not as great as Michael rosebaum. Thank goodness he wasn't cast in supergirl. And the line "no touching without consent " was either written by a feminist or a male feminist the CW is full of them. Either way it ruined Alex's character further. Supergirl started off decent but devolved into the wokeness abyss, more focused on "the message " rather than storytelling. I hope I never see any of these characters on Superman and lois
Supergirl finale is so fucked up. The only good scene is when Cat Grant comfort Kara to become herself and Cat Introduced her in the end. The rest is dumb garbage..
Last season should of ended with Kara revealing she’s supergirl and then have 10 episodes in the final season trying to deal with the consequences and in the series finale she wins everyone over
Why does everyone have powers? Why did Alex turning lesbian out of nowhere turn into a whole arc? Why did they ruin braniac 5 by making him not that smart and turning him gay? Out of the whole supergirl/DC roster, why they pick dreamer too STAR in the show? Why does supergirl act like clark kent instead of how supergirl actually acts(confident, cocky, and feels superior to humans).
@@robertsims7828 lol man I checked out around the end of the citizen america(forgot his name lol) arc. Also when alex wanting to be a mom and turning lesbian became a whole story line lol. After that the show become less about supergirl/a super hero show. It became a cringy sjw political statement smh. The real supergirl > than this crap. Supergirl was also turned into a female superman smh. They played around with canon material but never went through with it.
The Gauntlet and Magical Thinking from Supergirl S6 were pretty good episodes to start off the totem storyline, but of course they had to ruin even that and make Kara the stupidest most incompetent “hero” in the arrowverse smh. I can’t believe Melissa Benoist would end up going with this terrible finale.
You’d understand if you watched her story from the beginning, Nyxy doesn’t have all her powers they were stripped from her so she has other means of using 5th dimensional energy
I’m not an expert but didn’t he have a short stint as a villain (at least that’s how it was portrayed in Young Justice which is the most exposure I have of the character). Even if that is the case you would think he would be allowed to become a good guy.
Regardless of how good some the show has been, Supergirl the series deserved all the hate it got for favoring sending a half-assed message over good story-telling.
Thankfully this Lex Luthor no longer exists due to timeline changes which is basically the fact that this Lex Luthor is from the future and his past has been changed by the events of the final season so this Luthor is now a time remnant.
@@GameZone-ib7eu His future will be changed since he will never meet Nyxly since she is banished to the Phantom Zone and that did not happen in his timeline. The present Lex will return form the future with advanced tech but that is it. The other version of Lex technically does not exist anymore and should be erased from existence but the Phantom Zone is outside of time and space so that Lex is safe in there (assuming the same laws apply since in Injustice Superboy was nearly killed and put in the phantom zone to save him.
Ni i dont think that is how it worked, So Lex Luthor went to future from Present after his trial, there he saw the rampage of Nyxly and fell in love with her and they were future King and Queen but Legion stopped them, so he came back to his present to change the future but in his present too he was defeated. So its like that
@@dishansinghmehta8891 Yes but the past version of him would never meet Nyxly since she was returned to the Phantom Zone then she will never go on her rampage with the totems so Lex never meets her so boom Paradox. They actually saved that Lex's life since the Phantom Zone will protect him from timeline changes but if he escapes (lets face it Nyxly will never be mentioned again) he will share the same fate as Thawne, Savatar, Nora, and more.
@@Lord-Emperor-Vader no you don't understand, the past version of him still went to that future. like how on the flash Barry has travelled into the future and seen futures that him and his friends then were able to prevent from happening (like when he went to one where iris was killed by savitar). that didn't erase barry and make him a remnant. Lex's timeline is: he won the trial and avoided jail, travelled into the future where he met Nyxly and they had their relationship then he travelled back to the present. to him its now just an alternate future and he's the only version of lex in the present
The quality of CW shows has gone sooooooo down that they actually had to shut down a lot of em. I personally think it's better they shut these shows down cause they were just getting worse and worse every season
Everybody knew karate🤣🤣 I'm glad Lena wasn't doing that. They never explained how Kelly knew how to fight while training with Alex they skipped over that part🤣
"no touching without consent" to the alien was the most dumbest line I have ever heard the show produce.... I can get behind the uber feminist lines sometimes but man... I thought they'd ignore all that in the finale
@@tauhid9983 It was season 5 I believe. If I'm not mistaken it was the episode where Felicity was saving Cayden James from Argus or something. And Arrow didn't have multiple bad lines across the board? "Once the darkness is inside it never comes out"
@@bgos4727 bruh it's obvious it's a joke...but becuz if it wasn't I'd be seriously concerned for the writer's mental health. And if it was a joke it was a terrible joke I ever heard from a show. "No touching without consent" bruh not the fact that you are fighting an alien who can't understand you but the fact that you are litterally fighting where touching is involved. If this scene was meant to highlight how feminist joke don't work and that in on itself was a joke. Then they suceeded alright.
@@bgos4727 The issue isn’t the diversity and inclusivity, it’s the way it’s executed. The CW makes important social issues look like parodies. An amazing example of diversity and inclusivity executed amazingly is the recent Chucky TV show. Gods and Monsters for Justice League did a great job a Latino raised Superman. Not sure if it’s the writers or upper management at the CW, but somehow they do a garbage job at it almost 100% of the time.
Arrowverse series finales ranked 1. Arrow 8x10: "Fadeout" 2. Supergirl 6x20: "Kara" 3. Black Lightning 4x13: "The Book of Resurrection: Chapter Two: Closure"
@@FlarrowSpider it's not that it is bad, but as a series finale it didn't wrapped up a lot of loose ends. It doesn't help that Black Lightning ended way too soon compared to Arrow and Supergirl
@PJ Ramundo it concluded the rivalry between Black Lightning and Tobias Whale, but the series finale left out a lot of loose ends such as whatever happened to the other Outsiders from Season 3, where the heck is Gravedigger, the Painkiller spinoff didn't get picked up and therefore didn't wrap up the storyline it was setting up for Khalil and Odell, and it literally ended on a cliffhanger that won't get resolved anytime soon with Lala getting free from his cement prison
It was beyond disappointing that they didn't have supergirl to leave for the future with the Mon-el and join the legion. I mean she literally was a member of the legion in the comics, so it would have brought things full circle, also it would have open options to continue things. That climax to the battle with lex and nylx was awful.
More like anticlimax. The way they were building up the storyline, THIS is how they decided to finish it? It was so bad, it actually made the series finale of "Lost" look much better.
@@Mato1970 The series finale of lost was brilliant. The fact that so many people didn't get it is whats disappointing. No they weren't dead to whole time. Purgatory.
@pnorbert2222 OK pimpin". Got you. Through with this, it's definitely going nowhere if a series that is considered widely as one of the best in history was mediocre to you. Fine. Like I said each his own. CW must be more you speed.
I just finished this show and oh boy the last two episodes were especially bad, it even broke it's own rules it set up. Spoilers ahead.... 1- The ball was cut and Mxyzptlk released but I guess he just didn't feel like showing up and we get a throwaway line at the end saying he's fine in the 5th. 2- They meet on a bridge because superpowers and technology dont work in the area. Except Lex Luthers watch apparently. Oh and then everyone elses power once the bridge collapses. 3- Lex was rejected a lot at first and sacrificed victory for love a couple times, until the end where he just flips and starts firing lasers at his love. 4- If the stone was siphoning off the people, then surely making them dig deep and bring out their inner strengh would provide more fuel for the stone not cut it off? 5- Nyxly had a power blocking bracelet on for a while and couldn't use her magic, then suddenly in the final showdown you can see her still wearing it and she just summons creatures with a finger snap? 6- I'm not even going to mention the phantoms, so out of character, so bad. 7- A big through line is Brainy having to return to the future after things are wraped up.... but why? if he is going to the future he could leave in 200 years time and arrive at the same second he would if he left earlier. 12th level intellect indeed.
Supergirl Big Bad rankings 1. Lex Luthor (Jon Cryer has proven himself to be the best live action Lex Luthor as the character definitely caused a lot of mischief such as the whole political storyline of Season 4 itself) 2. Reign (the first big bad of Supergirl to ever feel so threatening and sympathetic at the same time as Odette Annable perfectly potrays the innocent Samantha Arias and the dark Kryptonian Reign) 3. Agent Liberty (while his storyline ended up being bad, Agent Liberty did have an understandable motivation and interesting design of his costume as well as having a good actor potraying him) 4. Nyxlygsptlnz (as one of the final main villains of the show, i find Nyxly quite enjoyable as a villain as she has a fine rivalry with Supergirl) 5. Lillian Luthor (fine villain with an interesting rivalry with Supergirl as well as her familial connection with her two children) 6. Rhea (while Rhea isn't that good of a villain, she was at least kinda better than Selena and/or Kara's aunt and uncle) 7. Selena (not the most memorable character, but at least she was responsible for creating arguably one of the better villains of the show in Reign) 8. Astra (she along with her husband were not that compelling as villains, but at least Astra was a little more interesting than Non) 9. Non (not that good of a villain, even his death was kinda underwhelming) 10. Gamemnae (while it is an interesting take on the character being the Goddess of Technology, throughout her season she wasn't given any screentime at all and the motivations of her and Leviathan were just never been clear)
@pnorbert2222 there's still talks about Lex Luthor returning on Superman & Lois in the future of the Arrowverse, and Jon Cryer said that he is all in for it when the opportunity comes. There's still hope for Clark and Lex to finally interact with each other in the Arrowverse
I believe that if done right, using the original Supergirl backstory would have made for a good basis for a multi series of Supergirl. Showing her time in the orphanage. Doing super stuff behind the scenes without recognition. Superman going off world, and her stepping in, to do more open stuff, but having to keep herself blurred from photos etc. Then her pending adoption, Superman revealing to her adoptive parents whom she is, and then revealing her to the world, explaining how the things that had been attributed to him were done by her, and her acceptance by the world. Interspaced with back steps to her growing up on Argo City, under the bubble. The bubble being punctured, her parents trying a Phantom Zone 2 projector on themselves on failling, when the lead surface which had been laid down was punctured. Them sending her to Earth to be with her cousin. The fading of her parents as it becomes apparent to them that the projector did work but had a delayed effect, som ething she was un aware of. The discovery of the Second Phantom Zone, and the rescue of her parents, but their deciding to be shrun k to live in Kandor as they felt her life was noiw on Earth alongside her cousion, and not with them, and they had no wish to be present on Earth. The discovery of a Red Sun system, with a planet almost identical to Krypton, but which phased between universes, which the Kandorians decided would be their new home when the city was enlarged. She saying farewell to her parents, and of course Superman saying farewell to his Uncle and Aunt. And of course the interspersed adventure she has during all this. it could have been EPIC but then, having a female character who has to learn to use her powers, has to live through adversity and consequences, isn;'t something modern creators want to deral with, so sadly probably something not to be seen. [Also imagine parallel classic era themes being used in the DC film franchise which any TV series could parallel and overlap with, rather than the dark Snyder version, or the worse current versions. imagine seeing Superman get pissed off with the Lanterns about them not saving Krypton, and then being shown (and us as well) the story of how the destruction was delayed so that he could be saved. And how his parents were supposed to be Lanterns them,s;lves and he would would have been the greatest Lantern ever, but now the Guardians regard him of having a greater destiny. Imagine seeing not just Superman but the still new JLA fighting Brainac, and retrieving Kandor (okay a variation, but nothing has to be fixed for a greater narrative) including flashbacks to the race who created him. Sorry, I rambled off topic there, into a potential DC Live Action potential which sadly we will never see. *sigh* Shouldn't post on things when sleep deprived... sorry
@@Mirrorcomics24 I needed a distraction when I saw where this was going so I just started a live stream of the game and was half watching the episode to review it since Lego games are pretty simple
As much as I love Season 4 of Supergirl,Season 6 is a cringey mess that it's possibly the worst of the Series,it felt rushed,boring,unheard,and painful that it's clearly obvious that CW had too much control over this that on one hand it sad that it over but on the other hand I'm glad that it's over since let's face it and be real Supergirl is a awful Series and now we must move forward since we must keep moving on with life and live and learn.
@@purejade2094 I will admit that there's so good things in this Series,however the rest feels dull and boring that's not a good Series I would watch again and again since there's many things that lacks and fails.
You should still watch it, this review was actual shit coming from a person who actually watch the season and many things that he highlighted were explained earlier in the season
mate how Arrow season 4 and flash has been since season 4 , if you liked it then go ahead but i you dont then you will hate Supergirl like way way more
The Flash Season 7, Supergirl season 6, and LOT Seasons 6 and 7 are all terrible. This has been a terrible year for the arrowverse (Minus Stargirl and Superman & Lois)
The weird thing was throwing in that "No touch without consent" line in the middle of a f****** battle. Battle. I mean... Really? Fight versus online 10 freaking minutes in a two-hour finale. Line would have gone better anywhere else
Haven't watched anything CW for years since the shows went from OK to boring to unbearable, but holy hell the show got so ugly. The costumes look like average cosplay at best, action shots are nausea inducing and the CGI looks like a from a school film made by high-schoolers. It's a real shame, because each of the CW shows was a golden opportunity to great a goddamn good TV series. Sadly now when someone mentions a comic book TV series it will be immediately associated with this crap.
The costumes are good now as they use same costume company as the movies and CGI of Superman & Lois, Stargirl and Flash Armageddon is also really good. Writing of Superman & Lois and Stargirl is great so definitely watch these two.
This episode really confirmed the fact that the writers didn’t really give a fuck about the whole Nia being Dream Girls ancestor thing, I mean it was obvious from the start but they weren’t even pretending anymore. If they wanted her to be trans and they wanted her to have a romance with Brainiac why bother making her an ancestor? Why not just have her be Dream Girl but living in modern times, would that break all our brains? “Dream Girl can’t be here she’s meant to live in the 30th century. What is happening! This doesn’t make any sense, up until this point the show had always done everything 100% accurate to how it was in the comics. This can’t be real, if they can just change something from how it was in the comics like that how can I tell if anything’s real, is life just an illusion created by a demon or some kind of alien simulation or something. Am I even real?”
I stopped watching this regularly after season 3, which ended terribly and only tuned in for episodes like crisis because it just was sooo terrible. This show is the best argument against fighting cancellation. So many people (including me) fought for this after CBS cancelled it after season 1and this is what they did with that second chance. Stuff like Alex's cringy line about consent was the NORM on this show after season 4. They literally live in an alternate universe where they think people want to watch what is basically a super leftist women's study class. Every female character was a mary sue who could do anything. They all told us how awesome they were and spent half of episodes telling each other how strong and brave they were. Just constant ham fisted political statements that really came across as high schoolers wrote it. Even when the ratings tank, they doubled, tripled and quintupled down on the cringe. It was like they thought they were being paid in woke points. The CW slashed its budget and man can you see it here. The "special" effects in the last couple of seasons looked like a bad high school production. The fight scenes were just terrible with choppy edits to hide the obvious lack of fight skills these actors had. It was like the bonus ninja scene from Bowfinger bad. The show was actually insulting to watch, not just because it was so bad and so cringy, but because they seemed to want to insult any normal person who might just want to see a superhero series and be entertained. The whole thing was made for an invisible audience that does not exist in reality.
Supergirl was completely one of my most favorite shows. I just need to say, this could have been way better. Because it was to weak for a seasons' finally. Supergirl diserved a way better ending.
I agree. The ending of Supergirl actually screwed up continuity for Superman & Lois. With Supergirl revealing her secret identity to the world, she has effectively outed her cousin as Superman. The writers should have had Supergirl go to the 30th century with Brainiac 5, Nia, and Mon-El so they could have held onto some continuity and stayed somewhat true to the comic books. It also made no sense for Brainiac 5 to decide to stay in the present with Nia when both of these characters live in the 30th century with Supergirl in the comic books. And I couldn't understand how and when did Lex Luther escape from jail? There was no mention of this
"Arrowverse" been dead for awhile. It was a good run while it lasted. Time to move on to the next thing I guess. They were too busy trying to spread a message than actually tell a story about Kara. CW is trash. Its a shame so many shows on this network that started off with a bang end with a whimper and nobody cares because everybody has move don *shrugs*
2021 Arrowverse seasons ranked 1. Superman & Lois S1 (what a great first season to this show. Not only that the production is very high quality, but the writing and character development was really great as both Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch shine as the titular characters) 2. Stargirl S2: "Summer School" (though the pacing was rather slow, it was overall another great season of Stargirl with a dark tone that fits perfectly with the main villain, Eclipso, as the JSA continues to grow with new members in Jade and Thunderbolt) 3. Supergirl S6 (an enjoyable final season for this show as it has some strong character moments along with an interesting villain in Nyxly as well as Jon Cryer's Lex Luthor) 4. The Flash S7B: "The Godspeed Imperative" (although the Godspeed arc should have been developed more, it was definitely very interesting in terms of bringing back some old characters like XS, Jay Garrick, and John Diggle as well as finally bringing in Bart Allen aka Impulse) 5. Batwoman S2 (this was a challenging season for this show as the writers essentially have to reboot it with a new original lead character, Ryan Wilder. While i did eventually warm up to her as well as like the storyline with Black Mask, there were still problems in the writing) 6. Black Lightning S4 (while this season finally concluded the rivalry between Black Lightning and Tobias Whale, as a final season it didn't really wrapped up loose ends) 7. DC's Legends of Tomorrow S6 (once again, the show continues to drop in quality with this inconsistent comedic tone. Not only that alien theme was not interesting, but this was also Constantine's unfortunate sendoff and Bishop is such a terrible villain in the Arrowverse. Be glad that this season was a bit more entertaining than that of the Forces arc on The Flash) 8. The Flash S7A: "God Complex" (do i even need to explain why this arc is so low on this list? One word: UNWATCHABLE. The Forces arc was the cringiest storyline we have ever seen in the Arrowverse)
@@KuroAceVT i used to like Legends, but what they are doing now with their inconsistent tone and writing... it's just terrible storylines and use of characters and it is not even a superhero show anymore
@@JoelMiller431 Legends is about being human. It is never trying to be what you want it to be, it does whta it knows is right and _very clearly_ has a hell of a good time doing it
Netflix should stop including LESBIAN / GAY scenes..its DISGUSTING…but it seems netflix is trying to promote then in almost all of their movies…children are watching and its not so good for them to watch immoral and disgusting two lesbians having an affair and always kissing each other…YACH!!!🤢🤮 sorry its just my OPINION.
@@coleevans2057 It’s just like super girl, trying to get certain messages across then putting up an actual good show. It should be Giving a significant meaning of who the actual superhero character is. I tried I actually tried watching both of them, couldn’t go past episode two on either show, super girl and batwoman.
At 3:20…. Is that really how it happens in the show?? Girl is getting her ass kicked by Metallo… guy comes in to save the day and distract… then she flies over the top top and taps him 40 feet away into a goofy ass explosion? I hope it wasn’t edited that way and that’s actually what happens in the show.
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Remember how this universe started with a guy using a bow and arrow...
yep
When you realize Christopher Nolan was the founder of this universe...
@@Coolsomeone234 yep
A loner with a bow and Arrow good times.
@@robertsims7828 yep i miss the good old days when it was Oliver as a one man army set in a universe with a Christopher Nolan batman feel
Melissa Benoist does not deserve this season finale, this poors writers. Even all of it, she was a great Supergirl.
Agreed. In crossovers, she was one of the strongest characters and actresses. She portrays supergirl very well. Optimistic but also troubled, as she is still younger than her cousin, but also very smart and can even manage to out think the man of steel himself! I love her as a character but her show is just so flawed. Melissa and the character deserve better
@@moonlightrider24 Actually, one of the reasons why I stopped liking Supergirl is because the show degraded Superman. Supergirl even beats him in a fight. In fact the show degraded most straight, white male characters over its 6 years run. I hated the wokeism. The show stopped doing the things I did enjoy such as the close relationship between the Danvers sisters.
If shes ever in a movie i hope they hire melissa
@@alexanderk7353 I'm pretty sure they are putting Supergirl in a movie soon, but it's not going to be Melissa playing her unfortunately, it's some Latino woman, because of course it is. They have to cast the 'woke' choice if they want to get the praise....
She was alright but could of been much better with better writers.
I saw people saying they want the flash to end with him revealing his identity on tv. That would be my supervillain origin story
Everybody in Central City already knows who the Flash is.
@@TheFunchip since when?
@@josegarcia6997 since he just tells everyone before they even ask
@@Xavier-sl7hn 😂😂
It has to end with him going back to that night
If The Flash ends like this then I'm gonna go more insane than the Joker!
Or more insane than carnage
@@maxcedeno1387 😈🔪
Season 7 of Flash is same level
With the way the show's going one of Barry's stupid pep talks will probably instantly redeem Thawne.
@Dark Avenger My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
ever since the cw started making a complete dive in quality, my brother and i started watching the shows with the intention of rating it on a cringe scale, and today we finally got to the supergirl finale, and oh boy, did it not disappoint.
Just saw the "No touching without consent" part so I want to ask...did the episode break the scale? Please tell me this isn't it's normal bad.
@@omnianimator8468 me and my brother also rated it on cringe....oh lord have mercy ...the cringe was unreal.
@@omnianimator8468 it was the highest score we ever gave, which says a lot
...at least it ended with a bang, made people feel things, just not good things.
@@omnianimator8468 it made us two feel things too. Not good things let me tell you...
The line of “don’t touch me without consent” I died 😂
That's hilarious because it's so stupid.
I laughed out loud and I still can’t stop laughing
That was so cringey 💀
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 got any context? Please dont make me watch the show
@@thereaper6754 My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
Damn. Supergirl tv series was truly wasted potential. Season one at least had some nice moments.
i agree
s1-s2 and most of season 3 were the show's glory days, after that, it went downhill. They stopped focusing on kara and sidelined Melissa in her own show, especially in season 5 when it was literally all about Lena
That's for sure. Season 1 could've at least been the origins story (a la Smallvile) leading up to Kara being SG.
@@ajnr6876 agreed and reign was karas best villain
@@alexanderk7353 nah she has like most of the inconsistencies, lex luthor get the heads up with Liberty and Manchester Black.
Kara balancing her identity between Kara Danvers and Supergirl has been a recurring issue, but despite that, revealing her identity might actually be ths stupidest idea possible. It's safe to assume Esme will be getting kidnapped 10 times a month...
What's dumb though is it WASN'T Kara Danvers vs Supergirl, bc sg isn't a person she's just a disguise. The conflict was about Kara Danvers vs Kara ZOR-EL. But they just ignored her actual identity dilemma and chose the dumbest laziest ending and gaslighted us that her secret identity was the problem the whole time, instead of what they actually established.
Facts lol
Plus foljs are gonna put 2+2 and boom all identities revealed, you take an expert assassin and get done with Supergirl's more than half the team.
It's like they totally forgot about that one episode It's a Super Life where in one of their little realty simulations Kara's identity is exposed globally and all her friends and family were killed by Ben Lockwood.
Also her weakness to kryptonite is well known and it wouldn't be a surprise if a assassin is hidden somewhere with a rifle pointed out at her or a local coffee shop employee who has a grudge against her slips kryptonite poison in her daily morning coffee.
Supergirl has always suffered from poor writing even in it’s “best” seasons.
Unpopular opinion, but I rewatched season 1-2 of supergirl and they’re not as bad as I remember or people say it to be. Of course it suffers from cringe and poor quality in some episodes but in others it’s good to see Kara actually be the main focus of her show for once.
Agreed
@Mostaverse eh for me it’s *kind of * like flash s3, where people hated it at first, but now that I rewatched it it’s actually half decent. It’s a show about Kara where Supergirl is the hero, not Sentinel, Guardian, Guardian 2.0, Dreamer, Lena, Andrea, etc. I liked quite a lot of episodes, mainly where Barry showed up, solitude, the krypton one, j’onns episode, red kryptonite one, human for a day, and where Kara learned how her mother used her to trick Astra. If you look at IMDb, Supergirl S1 is surprisingly the highest rated season of the series cuz it doesn’t necessarily have a “terrible, horrible episode”. I’ll admit tho that Non, Astra, and Rhea were actually horrible villains, some of the absolute worst in the arrowverse, but aside from that it’s not too bad
@@Bobbywoodhogan My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 😂
I can't be the only one who absolutely despises Alex's superhero suit, AND the fact that she's a superhero. Why is the CW making practically the entire cast superheros, shit we might aswell have Cat Grant roll up in a star spangled unitard. Belive me, Alex Danvers was more badass as a DEO agent. Swooping down from a helicopter, with her Assault rifle slinged around her chest, than this. Her suit is god AWFUL! Her superhero suit retracted and discontinued my negative opinion about Alex's Supergirl suit, or Barry's Season 4 suit.
The thick eyeliner and the hood makes her look like a 9th grade emo kid. Her thick black eyeliner and her hood over her face, and her short hair makes her look like she's that weird emo kid who you see walking down the hall always with their hood on, listening to "Cut my life into Peices" and always ranting about how life is meaningless. I'm more than happy that this SHOW is ending.
@pnorbert2222 Yeah. It's Iike what the guy said in the video. They're trying to hard to send a message, rather than to make a good story. They're focusing so much on the characters menial problems that the story is like dragging a cinderblock through mud in a 10 dollar RC car. They make Supergirl more like a Romantical-drama, rather than an action superhero show. Superman and Lois does both of those things seamlessly. I'm actually really proud of the show, it brings credibility to the CW network.
You let Micah kill Arthur 😔
Absolutely you said it.
Her eye makeup made her look like a drag queen who just took his wig off.
Flash's season 4 suit looked so cheap.
I always hated Supergirl, due to the writers making Red Tornado a villain.
WHAT???! fuck this show
I remember Young Justice had it to where Red Tornado was put on the Justice Society of America as a plant by his father/creator where he would eventually betray and destroy them but he rebelled against him.
ffs is there a single character that wasn't butchered by them?
Red tornado was a bad guy on supergirl?
Damn 🙁
Look how they massacred my boy
I’m convinced that Stargirl and Superman and Lois are the only two arrowverse shows that have writers that actually know what their doing
Stargirl is a tad bit cringe as well however yeah overall those two are the only “good shows” in the arrowverse
@@AaronHafeezGFX i think stargirl is deliberately cringe tho, like the writers know its gonna be cringe
I disagree, i also like black lightning (season 4 not included, we all know they did that last season shit, sorry not sorry)
Arrow
Yer they should kill of the rest of the shows and have titans doom patrol superman and lou stargirl and add the missing charictors to them showing wonder woman then you have a batman and family and a superman family as it should be with all the main players at hand in good quality shows then just do a proper mini justice league seasons 4 or 5 eps story witch would act as cross overs in between each season of there own shows that would be my plan just take one or two of the other chari tors like digal and mick or heatwave si.ply because he's such a great charictor have dig as a greenlantern in there universes crossing between the 4 shows to link them maybe a oliver return here and ther but in there universe as he was a little darker and would fit in ok with there shows more and bingo .kill the fake bat Ryan off as she has know right wearing that suit who are thay kidding she couldn't beat her way out of melting chocolate let alone be a bat she'd be dead on the first outing in reality how awful at least bats and Oliver have trained there skills all there lifes what has she got errors nout in a spout a useless girl in a gimp suit what a joke those criminals would have finished her in 1 .such bad writing and like Bruce wouldn't have had contijancy plans in play if he was gone the pennyworths or dick would have been the holder of wine enterprises so what a lot of crop and batwoman never had anything to do with the waines letcalone some how just inheritance of it would have gone to her father as the right full living air not cane but as it goes with her missing the ownership would then have gone to allis not ryan so in my eyes alas should have inherited it and it would be cooler to have done allis going of to find herself and maybe tracking Bruce's footstep s with would result in her training properly .meating the league of shadows on her jurny finding out of damson existence and returning to have changed in to a real bad ass with damion as her Robin for now till he's older to take his inheritance. She's colder and has more of that darkness needed to be the bat for now
The show was nothing more than identity politics
its CW
Yeah that is ruining every thing these days i can deal with a gay sister if its not forced but when that weird dude dresding up like a girl came in i wad like yeah im done
@@Rokana_ meh
Grrrrrrr!
@@jonathancooper4914 lol
This Series had Potential to be Good but it was Just THE POOR SHITTY WRITING that made it Bad
I agree. Season one was my favorite though i still had issues with it. The other seasons increased the cringefest to another level.
Those first four words pretty much summaries Supergirl.
I feel like that’s that way with all the CW shows except Stargirl and superman
That's for sure, I mean if they wanted to present a strong independent woman, SG was it. No team ups ( barely), political agendas, giving her reasonable bad villains from the comics... and a better disguise.
ALL CW SHOWS IN A NUTSHELL
There was no reason for Supergirl to reveal her identity...
Doesn’t this also just out Clark and every one around Kara?
@@Mirrorcomics24 Legally speaking, Kara Danvers and Clark Kent aren’t related so people would only assume the Kents are just friends of Kara probably due to being in the same journalism profession.
@@Drifter1989 they had fight scene together.. and supergirl wins.
@@ghostgirl02 What does that have to do with anything?
@@Drifter1989 I wasnt even speaking to you directly..I was making a statement
Nah, cause I couldn't stop laughing whenever Alex said 'no touching without concent.'
That line was so cringy!
@@kicker3186 Agreed.
My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
Alex is a joke I can't bring myself to laugh at ironically
That was a good quote
what made it funnier is how serious she was while saying it 😂
Remember how Smallville ended? It ended with Clark getting the suit. A lot of people were kinda pissed that we didn't get to see it but I had a different opinion. We weren't meant to see it cuz the show is called Smallville. As soon as clark got his iconic suit hes no longer Clark but superman. I thought that was some clever writing and overall it was a finale. It wrapped up so many plot threads and in the end, the final threat was worthy of having superman come in and save the day. It treated the story and characters with respect and it was their final hurrah and I almost cried seeing it end
Supergirl on the other hand is like that grape on the vine that never got to be a grape lol seriously I stopped watching around season 2 and I knew it became cringier but man was that some high grade cringe
Also that creature that made that "dont touch me without consent" line was Alex? Why does she look like a methhead that found a nice leather jacket? Holy crap they did her dirty
Smallville had its own problems but it at least felt like it ended at the right spot (it was meant to show Clark eventually becoming Superman).
I was re watching Smallville and I think one of the things that makes it my favorite CW show(despite it having its own flaws) is that there's an arc that Clark has over the series,it may be very dragged out but an arc, of him becoming Superman and all the trials that lead him to that moment. The problem I notice with a lot of the current shows is there's no real arc the lead is going through at best Oliver had to become less aggressive and alone in his way but even with that felt like it came in out of the series. But looking at Barry and Kara there's no real arc they really have to go through.
@@mikemorro140 hell Barry repeats the same “arc” (if you want to call it that) where he trusts people only for them to screw him over.
@@mikemorro140 it's part of the reason why the first 5 seasons of supernatural were the best. There was the multi seasonal arc of Sam and Dean preparing to fight Lucifer in the apocalypse. All of their adventures had a purpose, even if it looks minuscule. It leads to that final battle and the pay off is absolutely worth it. The seasons after that they were kinda winging it cuz they weren't expecting more seasons. That's why they were reduce to just seasonal threats and the show kinda ran out of steam
Smallville was similar but a longer arc. Each trail, no matter how small, paved way for Clark to become Superman. And yes I am including the episode where he got possessed by a drama queen who wanted the prom queen crown lmao I love Smallville so much
The reason it was infuriating we didn’t see him wearing the suit was because the show had already had mukltille seasons where he was doing the Superman thing. The “red blue blue” bit was so cringe
A few episodes before this, there was a whole episode about how supergirl didn’t save enough people of color, and even Alex’s girlfriend turned on Alex and basically the whole team because apparently they don’t do enough for that community. Even though they spent season after season saving the whole world lol. The show even had Alex buy a copy of that trash book, white fragility and had it on her coffee table at the end of the episode. Lol.
YO W H A T? I don't know whether to laugh or cringe at the fact that, that was an actual plot line for an episode that they filmed and aired.
@@Grand_Kitchen Did you see it?
@@RFNY315 No man, I quit the show before that!
@@Grand_Kitchen well you should check that episode out and see for yourself lol. I was actually physically rolling my eyes repeatedly and almost quit watching the episode. Still haven’t watched the last 2 episodes.
Wow, glad I quit watching this woke dumpster fire, I would've thrown my TV out the window with that genius plot line.
So let’s be real. Superman and Lois was pretty great. Can’t wait to see them get ruined. The only thing that helped Supergirl was Melissa Benoist and she deserved a comic accurate Kara Zor El
I doubt it. Superman & lois has very short seasons, meaning they skip over a lot of filler and the writers don't have to write as much. Also, hbo max is involved, so if the cw is about to go to far and make a dumb decision, they'll stop them.
@@ProjektTaku s2 was kinda cringe.
@@blue-12316 no
@@ProjektTaku yes it was
@@ProjektTaku the end was
The first episode itself had my eyes rolling with the stupid line: "On my planet, females bow before males".
It's one thing to create a strong female superhero, but to try this hard with all the obnoxious virtue signalling, just makes the show a total cringefest. If you feel the need to keep stressing "girl power", you're not doing a good job. The writers should've learned a thing or two from Wonder Woman
You can show women power even without doing this
There are millions of ways
But still they make trash writing
That’s why agents of shield is so good. Amazing female characters whos identity aren’t shoved down your throat
i feel like having episodes revolving around say "girl power" is fine, but the entire show is just "girl power"
Supergirl in the early comics almost NEVER talked like that (feminazi trash). She loved the men in her life, realized she was young and needed guidance until she mastered her powers (which Superman helped her with), and was willing to admit when she screwed up. This show is NOT the traditional character I've read.
@@thunderbird1921 yeah the fact that you obviously hate feminism and you are must probably misogynistic doesn't make you judgment based at all. 🙄
This was really the last Arrowverse show I planned on seeing all the way through. I’ll still watch Superman and Lois, but that’s about it for the new shit. Shame to see that aside from Arrow, it all ends not with a bang, but a whimper
The Flash is ................................................................................. okay.
Stargirl is a great show with apparently insanely talented people behind it. Cause the writing, the pacing and especially the effects are so much better than everywhere else in the Arrowverse (apart from SaL) with a budget I don't believe is that significantly higher.
You should give it a try if you hadn't yet.
I haven’t seen season 6 yet, I’ll probably watch it when it comes out on Netflix
My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
Star girl is an amazing show and I mean AMAZING😭💯
I think you hit the nail on the head. The Supergirl show is more focused on saying its message then telling a Supergirl story. Thats the sad truth for the audience that cares about her inclusion in the universe, but i guess i can accept it for the little kids out there learning morals from this show.
My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
Its message is dumb & cringeworthy.
It's a political message shoved in everybody's throat which is cringe and stupid. All SG tv show needed to be was an origins story while meeting other people and heroes.
It's not even that I disagree with the messages Supergirl is saying. But it comes across as so condescending and inauthentic that it just pisses me off.
@@normadgarmez7026
They can't even do that right smh.
_that moment where Mom-With-A-Shotgun appears ironically instantly debunks every anti-gun argument pushed by this show over and over and over_
One of the many problems is that the writers wanted to be political (mainly after season1), instead of telling a good story, this is happening with all Cw's shows.
I am cool with the political, almost all shows try to send a message. But they where condescending.
May i introduce you to legends of tomorrow?
@@michelelandolfi1572 is it good or bad ?
@@painvillegaming4119 amazing actually
@@michelelandolfi1572 good to hear there actually some good superhero’s stuff now a day
I heard jon cryer is coming back in superman and lois THANKFULLY
yes!!!! now Lex can finally face his real enemy in his show
That's not a good thing. I been saying that if they do that then a recasting is in order. Cryer's Lex doesn't fit the tone of Superman and Lois. They could do it. And hopefully with an explanation as to why he looks different. I've spoken against recasting but if you can make it make sense with an in story explanation then it can work i think. It might be necessary for this case.
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu I mean, Kal-El was a joke in Supergirl and now he basically defeated his half-brother and saved the world. They could make Jon Cryer's Luthor into an actual threat too
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu agreed
Wait really? Is it confirmed
2:49 That picture reminds me that there's a crazy section of Supergirl fans who thought Kara Danvers and Lena Luthor, 2 straight women would become a lesbian couple. Yet more proof that shippers don't care about story, characters, acting, writing or any of the actual important things about a show. Only about people's romantic relationships and sexualities.
Gotta be honest i dont get why people ship them sooooooo much, i never did, i ship barry and caitlin still lol
What's crazy is that they filmed a kiss between the two for the finale but cut it :/
@@fitolothegriffin556 no waaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!
@@fitolothegriffin556 There is an edited photo of them
@@maxcedeno1387 I too ship Barry and Caitlin 😂😂😂
If you think the "Don't touch me without consent" was cringy there is an episode on this season where Jimmy Olsen's sister (the new guardian) spends the whole episode bitching and complaining that Super Heroes don't care about black people. SUPER CRINGY!
Sounds like Batwoman's Ryan Wilder who thinks any criticism the other characters give her or them questioning her in any way is racism, was rightly arrested for drug possession because both her and her girlfriend were drug dealers but says racist Gotham cops planted them on her and set her up when they didn't, thought Jacob Kane not wanting to shoot Alice since she's his daughter was him not shooting her because she's white, one of the cop characters was turned into a comically evil racist then a Bane ripoff just because he told Ryan to turn loud music down. She goes on as if there's a giant racist conspiracy against her when there isn't. Even Luke, a black man is called racist for not submitting to Ryan Sue.
@@Xehanort10 she sounds utterly delusional.
@@thomasraines1396 Yeah if you thought the CW version of Kate Kane was bad Ryan's even worse. It shocks me that Batwoman has 3 seasons. It should have been quickly cancelled after how bad Season 1's trailer was.
@@Xehanort10 yes but the CW somehow manages to keep crap on the air for years.
@@thomasraines1396 Another stupid thing Ryan does is in a flashback to when she was younger. She got kidnapped by a madwoman who tried to force her to join a gang. But when these people who were looking for missing kids came along Ryan decided that because they were trying to rescue missing kids in general no matter their race instead of looking for her specifically they were somehow racist.
Wait this makes The Flash Season 7 look like Arrow Season 5? Holy shit! That's a whole other level! 😬😳
This is a accurate description. I wanted to rip my head out.
I actually like season 7.
@@disneyerapowerrangers2923 explain to me why
@@FlarrowSpider i just enjoyed it.
@@disneyerapowerrangers2923 even though it's cringey family storyline atleast we got to see some speedforce stuff which is good since the storyrunner even came out saying he doesn't feel like making Barry Allen stories anymore.
I thought the finale was conclusive but it was also an "and the adventure continues" setup. Not every show has to end with the protagonist dying. (It was certainly more of a series finale than Black Lightning, which felt far more like a standard season finale.) They get to end their current stories on the show, and then they just get to live. The only storyline that didn't seem to have gotten to a good conclusive point was Andrea Rojas' storyline, which felt more like it got to a turning point, then skipped to the very end (and this is after her development was rolled back between the season premiere and the mid-season premiere).
Nyxly was very powerful when she got to Earth. But then the Super Friends developed a device to keep her from using her powers, which Mxyzptlk put on her (and she was introduced with a dampener placed on her by her father), so her only source of power was the crystal ball that she trapped Mxy in, the totems, and the Lexosuit armor that Lex gave her. In her first villainous appearances, she was completely overpowered, and the dampener (which stayed on for the rest of the show) was the only thing keeping her threat level manageable.
This was a lackluster final season, quite frankly. The first half of the season was just awful, especially with the drawn-out Phantoms arc. And the mid-season finale was quite possibly the worst episode in the entire show, right up there with the gun control episode.
Bro calmed down
There was a gun control episode? I don't watch the show, I know it's sjw cringe but I'm still surprised
@@mrj4082 "Not Kansas", near the end of Season 3. The A-plot was boring while the B-plot (the gun control issue) was just really bad.
Yes! The gun control episode was so dumb. Then they went back to carrying Glocks afterward! Completely pointless.
@@WilyGryphon damn. I'm glad I never watched supergirl
2021 Arrowverse season big bads ranked
1. Eclipso (another great dark villain in the Arrowverse with a cool design as his rivalry with the JSA shines by playing on their deepest and darkest fears)
2. Tal-Rho (while i have mixed feelings about Tal-Rho being Superman's half-brother, i definitely do think he was a very well written character as he was essentially the Arrowverse adaptation of the Eradicator)
3. Black Mask (cool mask design as well as the actor giving a pretty good and menacing performance)
4. Lex Luthor (although him being a love interest to Nyxly was a weird direction to go for this character, Jon Cryer still shines as the iconic Lex Luthor who has pretty much made a good rivalry with the Superfriends, especially his half-sister Lena)
5. Tobias Whale (as the final big bad of Black Lightning, i say that this was Tobias' very best season as the main villain as he really almost made Jefferson lose everything)
6. Nyxlygsptlnz (as one of the final main villains of Supergirl, Nyxly was a rather interesting and enjoyable character to see onscreen)
7. Godspeed (while he does have a very comic accurate costume, August Heart's character and storyline should have been developed more)
8. Speed Force (while the storyline with the Forces sucked, i do think that Michelle Harrison gives at least a decent performance as a villain)
9. Safiyah Sohail (an interesting connection to Alice, but i think Safiyah lacked development as she pretty much disappeared after 2x08 and return again very late near the finale of the season)
10. Bishop (clearly THE worst villain ever in the Arrowverse as he is so annoying and unbelievable that he was responsible for the events of Legends S6)
Bro what? Are you telling me black mask from the Batwoman show was actually good?
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 yes. There's still some flaws about his character, but this potrayal of Black Mask is more better than what Ewan McGregor did in Birds of Prey
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Yes. Black Mask from Batwoman >>>> Black Mask from the DCEU.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
No villains from Batwoman were good honestly
Tobias whale should be top 3 he’s the best cw villain other than reverse flash imo
Lol, I swear this the funniest video you've made personally. I love how your recent videos show a lot more of your personality. And its honestly good to see some people actually realize how much of shit the CW has become. Do you think for your next video, you can chat about Spider-Man No Way Home?
its because they have to write for so many episodes. An average cw show season will have 22-20 episodes, and each episode is 40-50 minutes long. And the writers have to write tons of scripts for them, and sometimes have to do that for multiple shows. So they pad the seasons out with filler and soap opera stuff, and the overall quality dissipates as a result. A solution to this is very simple. Make the season shorter. Make the average season 13-9 episodes, and skip over all the soap opera and filler so the writers can flesh out the story and make a good plot. Hell, make the season 6 episodes like the marvels shows are doing. That would increase the budget and quality of every episode without taking up nearly as much time.
If arrow hadn't ended when it did you would have had time to see it die a similar painful death as well.
Another thing about Supergirl that was bizarre, was the fact that a Blue Star kills all males, as if the energy of a young Star discrimates against men, I wouldn't be suprised if the blue sun killing men was an innuendo for killing the Patriarchy. Every male character in Supergirl was made weak and basically beta males. Which is sad as MMH is a beast power wise, he deserved better.
I can't remember if I am correct or not but wasn't it just that star and galaxy and not all blue stars?
Yeah and in the comics a blue star powers up a Kryptonian way more than a yellow star but the series showed that she doesn't have power under blue star. It pissed me off too
@@GameZone-ib7eu I'm so glad they haven't nerfed Superman in Superman and Lois, they seem to have him at a very high level of power, not comic book levels, but not nerfed like they had Supergirl, I mean she needed a spacesuit in space and needed it to develop thrust also, she couldn't survive under water also and could suffocate, she was very low leveled. And in one of the last episodes of the final season, she was flinching when a guy shot her with a normal handgun also, low grade firearms should not have budged her at all.
@@Callumdevan17 yeah
@Ghost Arcade that maybe true, but the whole Supergirl premises carries heavily an SJW PC narritive and its pretty obvious to me that the male characters in that show are essentially beta males. Even in the Flash, the Flash is nothing, Iris is essentially the Flash without having being him. Superman and Lois is different they both compliment each other and not one sided like it has been in all of Supergirls seasons. The last episode of Supergirl was the height of cringe when Alex was shooting at a Dominator "don't touch me without consent", there should be a balance with male and female characters and I didn't see that in Supergirl.
I quit when Supergirl's sister lost her memory. Such a contrived plot point and their friendship was one of the best parts of the show, so I checked out.
True
@dean8705 judging by what I've seen the last seasons turned into, it seems I saved myself a lot of headaches LOL
@@ShinySephiroth1 on episode 14 of last series and its so so bad
@@SardonischerDean is it fun bad or gouge eyes out bad?
She did not lose her memory, J'onn (Martian Manhunter) simply removed her knowledge of Kara being Supergirl from her mind, that's it. Losing your memory means forgetting everything about yourself as a person, including your own name
I haven't watched a single full episode of Supergirl(exculding the Crisis episode) since the episode where The Monitor took Lex's dead body. I decided to watch the series finale & tell me why when the world was losing hope and whatever else it reminded me of that powerpuff girls episode where the clown was draining the colour from the world 😂😂
Love love love love love..... Love Love makes the world go round
@@NeroLeMorte that song was catchy for no reason
Probably a good call tbh, season 4 was the best season of the show and just an incredible season of any show, and s5 just fell off HARD
Supergirl was honestly really decent. In the early days. It just all went to shit at some point.
That’s why agents of shield is so good. Amazing female characters whos identity aren’t shoved down your throat
FINALLY someone recognizes A.O.S as great show I love U just mentioning them. #LongLiveShield
The fact that Lex is banished to the Phantom Zone by anyone other than Superman is a war crime. Also, her revealing her identity screws over Clark, who hadn’t chosen that and is famously her cousin. Boo and a half.
“No touching without consent” LMAO I HATE THIS SHOW 🤣🤣
You hating that comment makes you cringe...
@@delycan4912 Nah
@@delycan4912 My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
Me too & I used to be a fan now I want supergirl to suffer.
@@delycan4912 wut??
How did you manage to sit through any of these shows from the CW they make nothing but pure trash soap opera level story telling and school play level acting.
Smallville was the last entertaining thing I watched on the CW.
@@BigDaddyJinx Superman & Lois is far superior to Smallville.
I had to force myself these last few seasons. I was already invested into it. So I really wanted to see how it end at least. But it was killing me! Glad it's over
10:11 He also seems to think standing on top of a bus will make people listen to him.
between the talk no jutsu of the main character and the terrible pandering dialogue... one couldnt believe that Superfeminist could fall any further but it has, even nixing more Superman villains like Metallo, Lex, Parasite and having a Fem Mixy. It makes me wonder if theres anything original about this character or her history. I feel sad being a fan of the character in the comics and animation but the live action leaves such a dark blot on the legacy.
Supergirl died when she put on pants 😂
I'm going to pull my eyes out with a spoon
The CGI is So Bad!
I know.
Yeah it gets worse every season when it should be getting better.
No dude the cringe has gotten worse it's gotten amazingly bad. I mean it was always there but it definitely got worse
The word cringe is getting old and annoying now. But you are right about supergirl. After episode 12 I couldn't stomach it anymore. The blm episode was totally unnecessary and one of the worst ones yet. And this coming from a black guy. Alan Harper did okay as lex Luthor but not as great as Michael rosebaum. Thank goodness he wasn't cast in supergirl. And the line "no touching without consent " was either written by a feminist or a male feminist the CW is full of them. Either way it ruined Alex's character further. Supergirl started off decent but devolved into the wokeness abyss, more focused on "the message " rather than storytelling. I hope I never see any of these characters on Superman and lois
"dont touch me without concent" proceeds to attempt murder without concent
Supergirl finale is so fucked up. The only good scene is when Cat Grant comfort Kara to become herself and Cat Introduced her in the end. The rest is dumb garbage..
“Only in the movies.”
That doesn’t even make any sense for her to say that
The fact that Season 1 felt more of a series finale than this is just…. 😒
Last season should of ended with Kara revealing she’s supergirl and then have 10 episodes in the final season trying to deal with the consequences and in the series finale she wins everyone over
Why does everyone have powers?
Why did Alex turning lesbian out of nowhere turn into a whole arc?
Why did they ruin braniac 5 by making him not that smart and turning him gay?
Out of the whole supergirl/DC roster, why they pick dreamer too STAR in the show?
Why does supergirl act like clark kent instead of how supergirl actually acts(confident, cocky, and feels superior to humans).
And Lena all of a sudden having witch powers all those times in the past she's been in danger and or almost killed.
@@robertsims7828 lol man I checked out around the end of the citizen america(forgot his name lol) arc. Also when alex wanting to be a mom and turning lesbian became a whole story line lol. After that the show become less about supergirl/a super hero show. It became a cringy sjw political statement smh. The real supergirl > than this crap. Supergirl was also turned into a female superman smh. They played around with canon material but never went through with it.
The Gauntlet and Magical Thinking from Supergirl S6 were pretty good episodes to start off the totem storyline, but of course they had to ruin even that and make Kara the stupidest most incompetent “hero” in the arrowverse smh. I can’t believe Melissa Benoist would end up going with this terrible finale.
You’d understand if you watched her story from the beginning, Nyxy doesn’t have all her powers they were stripped from her so she has other means of using 5th dimensional energy
This show could have been much cooler if Supergirl was more comic accurate instead of worse female Superman
Finally a true criticism that doesn't make me roll my eyes
What is with CW constantly making Red Tornado a villain
I’m not an expert but didn’t he have a short stint as a villain (at least that’s how it was portrayed in Young Justice which is the most exposure I have of the character). Even if that is the case you would think he would be allowed to become a good guy.
Supergirl is the genital warts of superhero shows.
Regardless of how good some the show has been, Supergirl the series deserved all the hate it got for favoring sending a half-assed message over good story-telling.
Thankfully this Lex Luthor no longer exists due to timeline changes which is basically the fact that this Lex Luthor is from the future and his past has been changed by the events of the final season so this Luthor is now a time remnant.
Wait so what about the present Luthor?
@@GameZone-ib7eu His future will be changed since he will never meet Nyxly since she is banished to the Phantom Zone and that did not happen in his timeline. The present Lex will return form the future with advanced tech but that is it. The other version of Lex technically does not exist anymore and should be erased from existence but the Phantom Zone is outside of time and space so that Lex is safe in there (assuming the same laws apply since in Injustice Superboy was nearly killed and put in the phantom zone to save him.
Ni i dont think that is how it worked, So Lex Luthor went to future from Present after his trial, there he saw the rampage of Nyxly and fell in love with her and they were future King and Queen but Legion stopped them, so he came back to his present to change the future but in his present too he was defeated. So its like that
@@dishansinghmehta8891 Yes but the past version of him would never meet Nyxly since she was returned to the Phantom Zone then she will never go on her rampage with the totems so Lex never meets her so boom Paradox. They actually saved that Lex's life since the Phantom Zone will protect him from timeline changes but if he escapes (lets face it Nyxly will never be mentioned again) he will share the same fate as Thawne, Savatar, Nora, and more.
@@Lord-Emperor-Vader no you don't understand, the past version of him still went to that future. like how on the flash Barry has travelled into the future and seen futures that him and his friends then were able to prevent from happening (like when he went to one where iris was killed by savitar). that didn't erase barry and make him a remnant. Lex's timeline is: he won the trial and avoided jail, travelled into the future where he met Nyxly and they had their relationship then he travelled back to the present. to him its now just an alternate future and he's the only version of lex in the present
I saw this video a few months before I watched it and usually that makes the cringe hurt less. It didn’t work this time
The quality of CW shows has gone sooooooo down that they actually had to shut down a lot of em. I personally think it's better they shut these shows down cause they were just getting worse and worse every season
"No touching without consent?" In the middle of a battle? BYEE😂😂
I think she lost her powers that’s why she was fighting with “karate”
That's even more worse
Everybody knew karate🤣🤣 I'm glad Lena wasn't doing that. They never explained how Kelly knew how to fight while training with Alex they skipped over that part🤣
How this show made it to 6 seasons is beyond me.... I had to stop watching. Too much Alex, not enough Supergirl. Ughhhh....
"no touching without consent" to the alien was the most dumbest line I have ever heard the show produce....
I can get behind the uber feminist lines sometimes but man...
I thought they'd ignore all that in the finale
Did you have that energy when Arrow had a line just like that used in an episode?
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu which one lmao?
Plus it’s not just a line, there are multiples across the show. This one just takes the cake.
@@tauhid9983 It was season 5 I believe. If I'm not mistaken it was the episode where Felicity was saving Cayden James from Argus or something.
And Arrow didn't have multiple bad lines across the board?
"Once the darkness is inside it never comes out"
Why no one get that it was just a joke like seriously wt...?
Was it a joke? Yes
Was it a bad joke? No, because it made me laugh
@@bgos4727 bruh it's obvious it's a joke...but becuz if it wasn't I'd be seriously concerned for the writer's mental health. And if it was a joke it was a terrible joke I ever heard from a show. "No touching without consent" bruh not the fact that you are fighting an alien who can't understand you but the fact that you are litterally fighting where touching is involved. If this scene was meant to highlight how feminist joke don't work and that in on itself was a joke. Then they suceeded alright.
I agree. Storefront, on The Boys, isn’t that good at hand to hand because she is so powerful that she has never seen the need to learn any.
i feel realy bad about the arrowverse,it had so much potencial to become something amazing,if only cw wasn't so fucking bad at everything
Cw is a whole lot of woke culture these days.
@@robertsims7828 i am actually curious what is your problem with it?
@@bgos4727 The issue isn’t the diversity and inclusivity, it’s the way it’s executed. The CW makes important social issues look like parodies. An amazing example of diversity and inclusivity executed amazingly is the recent Chucky TV show. Gods and Monsters for Justice League did a great job a Latino raised Superman. Not sure if it’s the writers or upper management at the CW, but somehow they do a garbage job at it almost 100% of the time.
Arrowverse series finales ranked
1. Arrow 8x10: "Fadeout"
2. Supergirl 6x20: "Kara"
3. Black Lightning 4x13: "The Book of Resurrection: Chapter Two: Closure"
Black lightning season 4 is bad too huh?
@@FlarrowSpider Covid screwed it up.
@@FlarrowSpider it's not that it is bad, but as a series finale it didn't wrapped up a lot of loose ends. It doesn't help that Black Lightning ended way too soon compared to Arrow and Supergirl
@PJ Ramundo I still want to see the Outsiders again.
@PJ Ramundo it concluded the rivalry between Black Lightning and Tobias Whale, but the series finale left out a lot of loose ends such as whatever happened to the other Outsiders from Season 3, where the heck is Gravedigger, the Painkiller spinoff didn't get picked up and therefore didn't wrap up the storyline it was setting up for Khalil and Odell, and it literally ended on a cliffhanger that won't get resolved anytime soon with Lala getting free from his cement prison
We need an updated main villain ranking!
The cw just lets me down at this point
My Supergirl review: ua-cam.com/video/uN3gfqxpCaE/v-deo.html
@ shut up • at least there is stargirl and superman and lois
@@f.n.p3710 never watched either of them but ive heard there the new good cw shows
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 i agree
Indeed
This finale was so bad.
Ah yes the floor here is made out of floor
It was beyond disappointing that they didn't have supergirl to leave for the future with the Mon-el and join the legion. I mean she literally was a member of the legion in the comics, so it would have brought things full circle, also it would have open options to continue things. That climax to the battle with lex and nylx was awful.
More like anticlimax. The way they were building up the storyline, THIS is how they decided to finish it? It was so bad, it actually made the series finale of "Lost" look much better.
@@Mato1970 The series finale of lost was brilliant. The fact that so many people didn't get it is whats disappointing. No they weren't dead to whole time. Purgatory.
@pnorbert2222 each his own. For a series to last 6 seasons and really only have a few mediocre episodes is pretty unheard of.
@pnorbert2222 OK pimpin". Got you. Through with this, it's definitely going nowhere if a series that is considered widely as one of the best in history was mediocre to you. Fine. Like I said each his own. CW must be more you speed.
The shows always have such a great cast but then the writers fuck everything up.
7:24-7:57 Hahahaha! Good Lord your response was priceless!! I know right?! And WB cancelled Pepe La Pew for this?!
I touched the like button without consent
I just finished this show and oh boy the last two episodes were especially bad, it even broke it's own rules it set up.
Spoilers ahead....
1- The ball was cut and Mxyzptlk released but I guess he just didn't feel like showing up and we get a throwaway line at the end saying he's fine in the 5th.
2- They meet on a bridge because superpowers and technology dont work in the area. Except Lex Luthers watch apparently. Oh and then everyone elses power once the bridge collapses.
3- Lex was rejected a lot at first and sacrificed victory for love a couple times, until the end where he just flips and starts firing lasers at his love.
4- If the stone was siphoning off the people, then surely making them dig deep and bring out their inner strengh would provide more fuel for the stone not cut it off?
5- Nyxly had a power blocking bracelet on for a while and couldn't use her magic, then suddenly in the final showdown you can see her still wearing it and she just summons creatures with a finger snap?
6- I'm not even going to mention the phantoms, so out of character, so bad.
7- A big through line is Brainy having to return to the future after things are wraped up.... but why? if he is going to the future he could leave in 200 years time and arrive at the same second he would if he left earlier. 12th level intellect indeed.
Supergirl Big Bad rankings
1. Lex Luthor (Jon Cryer has proven himself to be the best live action Lex Luthor as the character definitely caused a lot of mischief such as the whole political storyline of Season 4 itself)
2. Reign (the first big bad of Supergirl to ever feel so threatening and sympathetic at the same time as Odette Annable perfectly potrays the innocent Samantha Arias and the dark Kryptonian Reign)
3. Agent Liberty (while his storyline ended up being bad, Agent Liberty did have an understandable motivation and interesting design of his costume as well as having a good actor potraying him)
4. Nyxlygsptlnz (as one of the final main villains of the show, i find Nyxly quite enjoyable as a villain as she has a fine rivalry with Supergirl)
5. Lillian Luthor (fine villain with an interesting rivalry with Supergirl as well as her familial connection with her two children)
6. Rhea (while Rhea isn't that good of a villain, she was at least kinda better than Selena and/or Kara's aunt and uncle)
7. Selena (not the most memorable character, but at least she was responsible for creating arguably one of the better villains of the show in Reign)
8. Astra (she along with her husband were not that compelling as villains, but at least Astra was a little more interesting than Non)
9. Non (not that good of a villain, even his death was kinda underwhelming)
10. Gamemnae (while it is an interesting take on the character being the Goddess of Technology, throughout her season she wasn't given any screentime at all and the motivations of her and Leviathan were just never been clear)
He really did kill that Lex Luthor role in my eyes
@pnorbert2222 there's still talks about Lex Luthor returning on Superman & Lois in the future of the Arrowverse, and Jon Cryer said that he is all in for it when the opportunity comes. There's still hope for Clark and Lex to finally interact with each other in the Arrowverse
I believe that if done right, using the original Supergirl backstory would have made for a good basis for a multi series of Supergirl.
Showing her time in the orphanage. Doing super stuff behind the scenes without recognition.
Superman going off world, and her stepping in, to do more open stuff, but having to keep herself blurred from photos etc.
Then her pending adoption, Superman revealing to her adoptive parents whom she is, and then revealing her to the world, explaining how the things that had been attributed to him were done by her, and her acceptance by the world.
Interspaced with back steps to her growing up on Argo City, under the bubble. The bubble being punctured, her parents trying a Phantom Zone 2 projector on themselves on failling, when the lead surface which had been laid down was punctured.
Them sending her to Earth to be with her cousin. The fading of her parents as it becomes apparent to them that the projector did work but had a delayed effect, som ething she was un aware of.
The discovery of the Second Phantom Zone, and the rescue of her parents, but their deciding to be shrun k to live in Kandor as they felt her life was noiw on Earth alongside her cousion, and not with them, and they had no wish to be present on Earth.
The discovery of a Red Sun system, with a planet almost identical to Krypton, but which phased between universes, which the Kandorians decided would be their new home when the city was enlarged.
She saying farewell to her parents, and of course Superman saying farewell to his Uncle and Aunt.
And of course the interspersed adventure she has during all this.
it could have been EPIC
but then, having a female character who has to learn to use her powers, has to live through adversity and consequences, isn;'t something modern creators want to deral with, so sadly probably something not to be seen.
[Also imagine parallel classic era themes being used in the DC film franchise which any TV series could parallel and overlap with, rather than the dark Snyder version, or the worse current versions.
imagine seeing Superman get pissed off with the Lanterns about them not saving Krypton, and then being shown (and us as well) the story of how the destruction was delayed so that he could be saved. And how his parents were supposed to be Lanterns them,s;lves and he would would have been the greatest Lantern ever, but now the Guardians regard him of having a greater destiny.
Imagine seeing not just Superman but the still new JLA fighting Brainac, and retrieving Kandor (okay a variation, but nothing has to be fixed for a greater narrative) including flashbacks to the race who created him.
Sorry, I rambled off topic there, into a potential DC Live Action potential which sadly we will never see.
*sigh*
Shouldn't post on things when sleep deprived... sorry
I was playing Lego Batman the Videogame while watching this.
This is random yet funny
@@Mirrorcomics24 I needed a distraction when I saw where this was going so I just started a live stream of the game and was half watching the episode to review it since Lego games are pretty simple
Kudos to you poor souls who watched all six seasons of this colossal garbage.
As much as I love Season 4 of Supergirl,Season 6 is a cringey mess that it's possibly the worst of the Series,it felt rushed,boring,unheard,and painful that it's clearly obvious that CW had too much control over this that on one hand it sad that it over but on the other hand I'm glad that it's over since let's face it and be real Supergirl is a awful Series and now we must move forward since we must keep moving on with life and live and learn.
The whole season? 🤨 yes the finale was garbage but I thought this season was good
@@purejade2094 I will admit that there's so good things in this Series,however the rest feels dull and boring that's not a good Series I would watch again and again since there's many things that lacks and fails.
I didn't like season 4, I agree with the messaging Supergirl conveys bit they do it in such a patronizing way
The Supergirl finale was a wet fart.
Probaly the most shittiest and cringefest finale I've ever seen💩💩💩
Good to know that I've been dodging a bullet by not watching this and that I haven't missed anything
You should still watch it, this review was actual shit coming from a person who actually watch the season and many things that he highlighted were explained earlier in the season
mate how Arrow season 4 and flash has been since season 4 , if you liked it then go ahead but i you dont then you will hate Supergirl like way way more
The Flash Season 7, Supergirl season 6, and LOT Seasons 6 and 7 are all terrible. This has been a terrible year for the arrowverse (Minus Stargirl and Superman & Lois)
And the worst season of the Arrowverse ever... Batwoman season 2!
well blacklightning didnt do good they ended that show with bad season and just the moments good finale thing .
@@FlarrowSpider i disagree it wasn't as bad
I was waiting for thus video. I felt exactly the same way about the series finally. Such an embarrassing ending
The weird thing was throwing in that "No touch without consent" line in the middle of a f****** battle. Battle. I mean... Really? Fight versus online 10 freaking minutes in a two-hour finale. Line would have gone better anywhere else
Haven't watched anything CW for years since the shows went from OK to boring to unbearable, but holy hell the show got so ugly. The costumes look like average cosplay at best, action shots are nausea inducing and the CGI looks like a from a school film made by high-schoolers. It's a real shame, because each of the CW shows was a golden opportunity to great a goddamn good TV series. Sadly now when someone mentions a comic book TV series it will be immediately associated with this crap.
The costumes are good now as they use same costume company as the movies and CGI of Superman & Lois, Stargirl and Flash Armageddon is also really good. Writing of Superman & Lois and Stargirl is great so definitely watch these two.
This episode really confirmed the fact that the writers didn’t really give a fuck about the whole Nia being Dream Girls ancestor thing, I mean it was obvious from the start but they weren’t even pretending anymore. If they wanted her to be trans and they wanted her to have a romance with Brainiac why bother making her an ancestor? Why not just have her be Dream Girl but living in modern times, would that break all our brains?
“Dream Girl can’t be here she’s meant to live in the 30th century. What is happening! This doesn’t make any sense, up until this point the show had always done everything 100% accurate to how it was in the comics. This can’t be real, if they can just change something from how it was in the comics like that how can I tell if anything’s real, is life just an illusion created by a demon or some kind of alien simulation or something. Am I even real?”
The show went out the same way it came in.. absolute garbage and a waste of a hour of everyone's life everytime they watched a episode
I stopped watching this regularly after season 3, which ended terribly and only tuned in for episodes like crisis because it just was sooo terrible. This show is the best argument against fighting cancellation. So many people (including me) fought for this after CBS cancelled it after season 1and this is what they did with that second chance. Stuff like Alex's cringy line about consent was the NORM on this show after season 4. They literally live in an alternate universe where they think people want to watch what is basically a super leftist women's study class. Every female character was a mary sue who could do anything. They all told us how awesome they were and spent half of episodes telling each other how strong and brave they were. Just constant ham fisted political statements that really came across as high schoolers wrote it. Even when the ratings tank, they doubled, tripled and quintupled down on the cringe. It was like they thought they were being paid in woke points.
The CW slashed its budget and man can you see it here. The "special" effects in the last couple of seasons looked like a bad high school production. The fight scenes were just terrible with choppy edits to hide the obvious lack of fight skills these actors had. It was like the bonus ninja scene from Bowfinger bad. The show was actually insulting to watch, not just because it was so bad and so cringy, but because they seemed to want to insult any normal person who might just want to see a superhero series and be entertained. The whole thing was made for an invisible audience that does not exist in reality.
Supergirl was completely one of my most favorite shows. I just need to say, this could have been way better. Because it was to weak for a seasons' finally. Supergirl diserved a way better ending.
It doesnt deserve shit
@@bironjames9948 Yes aggreed. That ending sucked as hell. It could have been so much better. Even Black Lightning ended way better than Supergirl did.
@@sasamitrovic4660 black lightning last season was just trash. Like cmon
I agree. The ending of Supergirl actually screwed up continuity for Superman & Lois. With Supergirl revealing her secret identity to the world, she has effectively outed her cousin as Superman. The writers should have had Supergirl go to the 30th century with Brainiac 5, Nia, and Mon-El so they could have held onto some continuity and stayed somewhat true to the comic books. It also made no sense for Brainiac 5 to decide to stay in the present with Nia when both of these characters live in the 30th century with Supergirl in the comic books. And I couldn't understand how and when did Lex Luther escape from jail? There was no mention of this
"Arrowverse" been dead for awhile. It was a good run while it lasted. Time to move on to the next thing I guess. They were too busy trying to spread a message than actually tell a story about Kara. CW is trash. Its a shame so many shows on this network that started off with a bang end with a whimper and nobody cares because everybody has move don *shrugs*
This was a truly awful finale.
2021 Arrowverse seasons ranked
1. Superman & Lois S1 (what a great first season to this show. Not only that the production is very high quality, but the writing and character development was really great as both Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch shine as the titular characters)
2. Stargirl S2: "Summer School" (though the pacing was rather slow, it was overall another great season of Stargirl with a dark tone that fits perfectly with the main villain, Eclipso, as the JSA continues to grow with new members in Jade and Thunderbolt)
3. Supergirl S6 (an enjoyable final season for this show as it has some strong character moments along with an interesting villain in Nyxly as well as Jon Cryer's Lex Luthor)
4. The Flash S7B: "The Godspeed Imperative" (although the Godspeed arc should have been developed more, it was definitely very interesting in terms of bringing back some old characters like XS, Jay Garrick, and John Diggle as well as finally bringing in Bart Allen aka Impulse)
5. Batwoman S2 (this was a challenging season for this show as the writers essentially have to reboot it with a new original lead character, Ryan Wilder. While i did eventually warm up to her as well as like the storyline with Black Mask, there were still problems in the writing)
6. Black Lightning S4 (while this season finally concluded the rivalry between Black Lightning and Tobias Whale, as a final season it didn't really wrapped up loose ends)
7. DC's Legends of Tomorrow S6 (once again, the show continues to drop in quality with this inconsistent comedic tone. Not only that alien theme was not interesting, but this was also Constantine's unfortunate sendoff and Bishop is such a terrible villain in the Arrowverse. Be glad that this season was a bit more entertaining than that of the Forces arc on The Flash)
8. The Flash S7A: "God Complex" (do i even need to explain why this arc is so low on this list? One word: UNWATCHABLE. The Forces arc was the cringiest storyline we have ever seen in the Arrowverse)
hey look, another person who doesnt understand Legends
@@KuroAceVT i used to like Legends, but what they are doing now with their inconsistent tone and writing... it's just terrible storylines and use of characters and it is not even a superhero show anymore
@@JoelMiller431 Legends is about being human. It is never trying to be what you want it to be, it does whta it knows is right and _very clearly_ has a hell of a good time doing it
I'd watch any episode of The Flash Season 7 over Batwoman season 2 any day of the week!
@@KuroAceVT or someone who just has opinion?
Oh well, can't wait to see you diss the Flash's series finale. You just have such high expectations for whatever show you watch
Love the content keep it up..👍🏽
Netflix should stop including LESBIAN / GAY scenes..its DISGUSTING…but it seems netflix is trying to promote then in almost all of their movies…children are watching and its not so good for them to watch immoral and disgusting two lesbians having an affair and always kissing each other…YACH!!!🤢🤮 sorry its just my OPINION.
So glad this show finished, hopefully batwoman ends pretty soon
Facts
I think I know why, but I want to hear what you say ,why do you want bat women to end?
@@coleevans2057 It’s just like super girl, trying to get certain messages across then putting up an actual good show. It should be Giving a significant meaning of who the actual superhero character is. I tried I actually tried watching both of them, couldn’t go past episode two on either show, super girl and batwoman.
@@Theinspirationalrogue yea
At 3:20…. Is that really how it happens in the show?? Girl is getting her ass kicked by Metallo… guy comes in to save the day and distract… then she flies over the top top and taps him 40 feet away into a goofy ass explosion? I hope it wasn’t edited that way and that’s actually what happens in the show.