Is Respawn's New Update the END of Cheaters?

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024

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  • @damitbandit9253
    @damitbandit9253 7 місяців тому +9

    dude the only thing i used steam config was for simple tap strafes now i cant do it

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +4

      We on the struggle bus😂🫠

    • @emmang2010
      @emmang2010 7 місяців тому

      Same something needs to change after what they did.

  • @itzmaash
    @itzmaash 7 місяців тому +5

    I understand your pov on the subject and even think Tstrafe should not be removed on roller but this is what respawn needs to do to send a message. Lets hope this goes forward...!
    Now, i used roller for 15+ yrs, bought a pc 3yr ago and last year finally commited to mnk...! My question is, u choose to use controller from the start, u also have aim assist (which is quite strong on Apex), why do u feel u need more keys/binds?! If u want movement make the switch to mnk and learn it the hard way. I accept the pads and triggers but anything besides that is creating an even bigger gap and that's why the game is where it is. Not even the "regular" rollers wanna play this anymore cuz kids just write an essay on a docx and become Neo in game with aimbot. Its not fun.
    Keep it up! ✌

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Ya so I'm in the same boat, I've been on controller my whole life & I just prefer to play on them, I have m&k & have used it but honestly I just don't enjoy it as much (regardless of the game) controller just feel like gaming to me (if that makes sense).
      Additional keys is cool because its just convenient, being able to have a revive button instead of looting a bin or opening a door is a small thing but it has definitely lost me games before. (There are other options that it allows, like I said in the video)
      I DO completely agree though that I hope this sends a message to cheaters and it takes them out of the game, while I'll maintain the stance that tag stafing could hopefully be worked into the game because I think it's fair to have it available on both (and I definitely don't consider that movement to be cheating, everything else.. 100%!)

  • @icetankgod3420
    @icetankgod3420 7 місяців тому +4

    i think the best way to go about this is to add an in game bind called "tap strafe" so controller and mnk can bind it to a single button or key and all it does is press W at a fixed rate because thats all tap strafing is, just a bunch of W inputs very fast

    • @CARTUNE.
      @CARTUNE. 7 місяців тому +3

      Agreed! This is the way to deal with that. Plus, I can play hybrid. Mnk or Roller but I prefer roller due to the comfort in my shoulder. But when I did play and binded it to scroll wheel, my strafes were way more precise on Mnk and just as easy. An FPS mouse with a scroll wheel with 15 inputs a scroll is OP. lol There's no "skill" to it.

    • @emmang2010
      @emmang2010 7 місяців тому +1

      @@CARTUNE. I really wish more M and K players could hear that. I've only ever played roller and took M and K players word that it was much harder to use lurch tech than using paddles with configs.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      We just want the tap strafe back apex, please🙌 hahah

    • @godlyghost3111
      @godlyghost3111 7 місяців тому

      @@CARTUNE. you are lying, tap strafing on roller was incredibly more op and less skillful. im horrible at roller but i was doing movement like crazy, i was basically neo strafing by holding the tap strafe bind and spinning my joystick. that takes zero skill. mnk takes timing to actually ras strafe properly, yet some roller demon does that 10 fold by spinning his joystick. if they bring it back, they need to limit so its only forward directional for momentum shifts at least.

  • @matthewfulton2931
    @matthewfulton2931 7 місяців тому +1

    Finally only been five years.

  • @emmang2010
    @emmang2010 7 місяців тому +6

    Contorller config user here as well just to tap stafe. Why didnt they just remove lurch tech entirely from the game for all users then? This just seems a little one sided and they could have definitely removed the absolute abuse of configs without removing simple roller lurch tech.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +2

      Exactly, all I want is tap strafing...
      I think it'd be absolutely hilarious if they removed the ability to bind a movement to scroll wheel for M&K & see the amount crying that would come from that side.
      Because if I'm honest, how is it fair that they have the ability to perform these skills when it's not even a possibility for us.
      Make it a super challenging skill to use, I'll put in the time to learn it, but for it to not be an option is unfair & unbalanced.

    • @emmang2010
      @emmang2010 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Jodesy11 I agree 100 percent. I think their argument always falls back to AA being that thing that only we have access to with no acknowledgement that it's a handicap for using sticks over M and K.
      It really always falls back to AA. I know many other roller players who used configs that would prefer lessened to no AA to still have some tap strafing config abilities.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      @emmang2010 🙌

    • @smooshi3167
      @smooshi3167 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jodesy11 sounds like copium to me, but you guys have your whole arm to aim with.
      its takes actual skill to be good on mnk, whereas controller is easier to pick up and still do good
      any automated movement is cheating so just go back to your corner and cry :)

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      @@smooshi3167 controller definitely is easier to pick up & be good with, ill agree with you there but it doesn't mean we shouldnt have the opportunity to learn the skill of tap strafing. It's so easy to do on M&K that a 3 year old could figure it out🤷. (I'm just uploading a follow-up video right now showing that off, even I can do it & not only do I never use that input method but I also hadn't even tried to use it for likely over a year..)

  • @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG
    @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG 7 місяців тому +1

    You shouldn’t be able to tap strafe on controller. I’m so glad they removed this. The only reason to play KBM over roller is for movement. AA still needs a nerf, but this is a step in the right direction.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      So you think that controller is still superior to m&k? That's wild

    • @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG
      @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Jodesy11 it’s a very common opinion lol. No pro player has swapped from roller to mnk, but plenty have swapped to roller. And they can’t tapstrafe on roller in ALGS

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      @@broskiezISMYGAMERTAG pros & average Joe's aren't the same tho😅 not even close

    • @godlyghost3111
      @godlyghost3111 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Jodesy11if professionals are swapping inputs they are used to, so they can win real money then that says a lot about controller.

  • @voidwok
    @voidwok 7 місяців тому +1

    Simple fix is to remove lurch mechanics from the game entirely. But mnk crybabies will whine and scream if any changes are made to their portion of the game, so that’s likely out of the question.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  6 місяців тому

      I went up against some wraith doing idk what kinda strafing movement yesterday & there's nobody that could tell me that it wasn't cheating, was absolutely insane

  • @Godwarr
    @Godwarr 7 місяців тому +15

    Controller players have legal aimbot, literally, sure, not being able to tap strafe cfg is silly, but if you get mad you cant tap strafe, your just greedy. Great changes, now nerf aim assist and the game will be better, bring back mnk competitive scene, not a bunch of hunchbacks

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      Maybe a bit of an over-exaggeration haha, aimbot is pretty op I heard😂 but regardless whole point of what I'm saying is that I'd gladly take a weakened AA if it would allow us tap strafing.
      & To be completely honest I don't much follow the competitive scene (just when I get ripped by pros in ranked😅🫠)

    • @Godwarr
      @Godwarr 7 місяців тому

      @@Jodesy11 just search on UA-cam and decide if im over-exaggerating ''#1 Horizon Drops the QUICKEST 30 Bomb ever in Apex Legends + AIMBOT SENS.''

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Okay haha, will do

    • @ethrboy
      @ethrboy 7 місяців тому +6

      "nerf aim assist" but pc can still tap strafe and do broken movement lmfao

    • @Godwarr
      @Godwarr 7 місяців тому

      @@ethrboy checked ur YT channel,ur new, not gonna argue

  • @Clegg.
    @Clegg. 7 місяців тому +3

    Using config to tap strafe must therefore be, cheating.
    Congrats, you can now play legit 👍

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      For sure, it'd just be nice if there was consistency across inputs. Remove the ability to bind forward movement to your scroll wheel & then you could play "legit" too

    • @Clegg.
      @Clegg. 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jodesy11 I appreciate where your going with that.. however save your time and effort as I play apex on the ps5, there's non of this drama with a straight forward console.
      Although our long-awaited 120fps update arriving tickles my pickle for sure.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      That's where I came from & I'm psyched that you guys are finally getting 120fps too, it'll be so wicked for yas!
      But just imagine if you could tap strafe too, ooooooo it'd be good

    • @icetankgod3420
      @icetankgod3420 7 місяців тому

      @@Clegg. i think the difference is that we have to play with mnk on pc if we are roller players. tap strafe config was a way to keep up. on console everyone's on the same playing field. imagine if one day xbox was able to config tap strafing but ps5 couldn't. feels like that. and there's also the fact that many roller players have been using a simple tap strafe config for years now. I've dumped so much time and effort into perfecting my movement on par with good mnk players movement and now its gone. it feels like i have to devolve to a Neanderthal to play the game. its such a less fun and dumbed down way of playing which might just be my opinion but movement was what kept me playing for so long. then i get the argument to "just switch to mnk" ive been on controller since i was 6. the endless hours i have with a controller makes it my home. no one should be forced to a different input simply because it literally cant do the same input as another

  • @hackolgy7475
    @hackolgy7475 7 місяців тому

    If y’all haven’t noticed they only removed tap strafing :/ they still got jitter aiming and auto armor swapping and everything on controller which is unfair(I’m a controller player) but they only removed tap strafing and Neo strafing like bro what. That wasn’t the problems the problem was aim assist boost and jitter aiming macro and mantle jump macro and all these extra stuff

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Lots of folks have been mentioning this, absolutely mind blowing tbh hahaha

  • @jr5296
    @jr5296 7 місяців тому +1

    aim assist configs still work according to that guy who's config video went viral

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Lol that's wild😂😅

  • @meekrowhave
    @meekrowhave 7 місяців тому +1

    I used to use a roller trust apex feel so much better on KBM give it a fare shot and you'll beam Aim Lab helps a lot

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Ya, I've used m&k before but it's just the fact that I prefer not using it haha, not because of in-game how it is but just sitting up and being so close to my desk & what not

    • @JorgeMartinez-ko6wu
      @JorgeMartinez-ko6wu 7 місяців тому

      Yeah it feels better and you can practice all the aim Labs you want you are not going to win against aim assist. I stopped playing this game cuz if feels just like cod now days controller heaven.

  • @gokrisgaming
    @gokrisgaming 7 місяців тому +2

    thats a lie cause m&k still have configs lol bet logitech software is still able to be used. Hope they fix it all tbh but the crying controller gets is just laughable like m&k doesnt use it as well.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, from my point of view, make tap strafe universally available [in-game]make it easier for PC to do too if they would like to be upset about the "skill" that it takes to perform it. & Then just get rid of everything else. The neo stuff & just bizarre movement that occurs only on M&K (without the cheats)

    • @orbis17
      @orbis17 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jodesy11 but you said above that "its so easy a 3yo could figure it out" how could they possibly make it easier than that? Your opinion would hold more weight if it wasn't all over the place. Seems like you don't really know what you want...

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      I mean, press and hold a button easy (which is slightly easier than how easy it already is), check the video I just uploaded where I tap strafe it up with m&k kinda proving that point

    • @gokrisgaming
      @gokrisgaming 7 місяців тому

      @@Jodesy11 you cant do the exact same stuff with all the 3rd party things like logitech and other software used from different m&k companies software that comes with their equipment.

  • @oRedW0TAx
    @oRedW0TAx 7 місяців тому

    "...The use of software that automates game mechanics for a competitive edge over other Apex players is considered cheating and is unacceptable."
    Does this include software that... I don't know... is functionally a soft aimbot that reacts to and tracks targets with 0ms reaction time and inhuman tracking? Software that has effectively made it impossible for more raw input based devices to compete at higher levels?

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      You talking about macros through razer & ghub? Or what?

    • @oRedW0TAx
      @oRedW0TAx 7 місяців тому

      @@Jodesy11 Im talking about aim assist

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Ahhh yes i see

  • @depprxsion1520
    @depprxsion1520 7 місяців тому +2

    Yes I understand all those other configs are cheating but how are yap strafing cheating😂 yes we still have to put and do the input to beable to do it? Why remove it from controller when you can do it EASILY on kbm? It would be fair if they did all of it

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree, it is such a simple movement to learn on mk, why can't we have it on roller too

    • @rushigg9297
      @rushigg9297 7 місяців тому +1

      I would say that you guys have really strong aim assist. But if they were to fix aim assist and reduce it, I wouldn't be opposed to having controller players tap strafe.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      @@rushigg9297 which I would be 100% fine with, I feel like that has been a relatively common feeling among m&k folks that have let me know their opinions ( I actually just spoke about it some more in my upload from an hour or so ago)

    • @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG
      @broskiezISMYGAMERTAG 7 місяців тому

      Would it also be fair to give KBM aim assist? Roller is simply a better input than KBM on apex. The aim assist is heinous. You don’t get to complain 🤣

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      See i just don't agree with that, controller is better at close range fights and that is literally it.@@broskiezISMYGAMERTAG

  • @Recuper8
    @Recuper8 7 місяців тому

    Now they just need to totally remove tap strafing from the game and we'll finally have a win.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      It'd be better if everyone could do it, it's fun🤷

    • @godlyghost3111
      @godlyghost3111 7 місяців тому

      cope

  • @RetroDivergentes
    @RetroDivergentes 7 місяців тому

    What about mouse scripts for anti recoil?

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Personally don't know about these but have heard a bit about em from these comments, seems like a wild scenario if they really aren't banned

  • @vagabondcaleb8915
    @vagabondcaleb8915 7 місяців тому

    Is this live? Or is it coming in an upcoming patch?

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому +1

      It is live!!

  • @thomasgale6300
    @thomasgale6300 7 місяців тому

    All these pros are cheating. If respawn are telling the truth here then none of these current best players will still be best players. Tap strafing is cheating and does give you an edge.

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      It's definitely an opinion, is tap strafing on m&k cheating?

    • @Thundersgaming
      @Thundersgaming 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jodesy11it’s not because in algs mnk can still tapstrafe in algs you could never use configs

    • @icetankgod3420
      @icetankgod3420 7 місяців тому

      @@Thundersgaming yeah but thats simply because the scroll wheel allows for it. flicking something that can make a bunch of consecutive inputs really fast is what allows for it. if controller was theoretically built with a scroll wheel some how it would be completely different. its not about wether they can bind it or not because technically roller can to but it doesnt do anything because theres nothing on a roller that can make inputs that fast. all tap strafe config did was make a button do what a mnk players mouse can do. i agree configs should be completely removed and unavailabe because it allows for much worse things but it seems stupid to me that they didnt make a way in game to do it. movement isnt cheating. configs is cheating

  • @mattkowalski6740
    @mattkowalski6740 7 місяців тому +2

    Apex has been dead and now they really just killed any chance of controller players even being nearly competitive at all. Tbh if I could play m&k i would but im physically unable to. Being able to tap strafe of contoller was nice but still no where near as good as using m&k. You are either accurate or fast on controller. You can have both on m&k. Complaining about aim assist in Apex is probably the biggest COPE ive ever seen

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      I agree with this, let us have a more challenging way to use it & that'd be fair

  • @neneeveryday2716
    @neneeveryday2716 7 місяців тому +1

    Cry babies, if mnk is so broken why not switch input

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Cause we like using a controller🤷 m&k don't feel as fun

    • @neneeveryday2716
      @neneeveryday2716 7 місяців тому

      @@Jodesy11 if ur just looking for fun and can’t find fun in this game anymore, just leave. We don’t appreciate you anyway. Taking away tap strafe from controller is the best thing ea has ever done

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      @neneeveryday2716 Relaxxxx hahah, it's still an enjoyable game, it was just a fun mechanic to be able to use. It's whatever

  • @user-ri3fy7le8e
    @user-ri3fy7le8e 7 місяців тому

    Games ruined you attack controller players but still have M&K player using mouse macros through razor etc to auto jitter aim for them…

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Hopefully all the macros will be phased out but ya it's interesting that only some of them are so far

  • @THENickRyder
    @THENickRyder 7 місяців тому

    Let's just make it fair for everyone and ban mnk! 😂

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      Lolol😂😂 that's a solution, ya love it haha

    • @Jodesy11
      @Jodesy11  7 місяців тому

      (sarcasm obviously, incase people don't get that)