German SPIES bombed a Canadian-American bridge in WORLD WAR I? | Citation Needed [3/4 show S2E5]

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  • The Vanceboro Bridge was once an important bridge between Canada, and the United States of America - and the Germans actually bombed it during World War I in a calamity of events. Join the 3/4 show as we play Citation Needed to find out how it all unfolded! Special thanks to channel member Cits for sharing this story with me.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 228

  • @christopherspringer2764
    @christopherspringer2764 6 місяців тому +31

    So, my dad grew up in Danforth, ME, which is only like half an hour from Vanceboro. And after watching this video for the first time, I asked my grandmother (my dad's mom) about this event, and she told me the entire story from my grandfather's father's perspective. Gerald Greene, I believe his name was, and as it turned out, he was the one of the railroad policemen that took Werner Horn into custody. As a matter of fact, it was his very first day on the job.
    Later, in 1917, he was drafted into the army, and fought in the trenches. After my grandfather was born in 1938, he was drafted again into the army in 1941 and was assigned as a tank engineer in North Africa. He rose to the position of tank commander, and after the war in Africa was over, he was transferred to Operation Overlord during the D-Day invasion. He stormed Omaha Beach in the 3rd wave, and he was told to leave all of his kit on the boat, because he would find everything he needed on the beach from dead soldiers.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  6 місяців тому +14

      WHAT!? Oh my word. What are the odds. Dude, thank you for sharing.

  • @toboterxp8155
    @toboterxp8155 Рік тому +99

    "Fun fact": the guy at the embassy, von Papen, later became Hitlers vice chancelor. One of the people charged at the Nürnberg trial.

    • @steeljawX
      @steeljawX Рік тому

      Well I guess that's evidence against Hitler. He was never going to succeed in his "third reich", not with Von "Failed-to-get-a-single-bridge-blown-up-in-the-last-war" as his vice chancelor. He's probably the one who suggested they try to double cross the Soviets and invade them during the Winter, because his last Winter Ops went so well.

    • @burnerheinz
      @burnerheinz 11 місяців тому +6

      thaaats where i know the name from! kinda predictable now that i think about it.

    • @avobot9705
      @avobot9705 9 місяців тому +2

      Ahhhh

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  6 місяців тому +10

      that is a not fun fact

    • @AshCatTrainz
      @AshCatTrainz 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Hyce777it’s a very fun fact

  • @LRA_Models
    @LRA_Models Рік тому +123

    As a guy from Germany I just have to say... This is just awsome ! Your imitaion of the German language / talking made me laught so hard ! Love your content Hyce !

    • @christiangunther7128
      @christiangunther7128 Рік тому +8

      As another guy from Germany, I second this!

    • @DonkenAndToivolaRR
      @DonkenAndToivolaRR Рік тому +5

      Also a german: ja, sis wass heelaarrriouss!

    • @mr.greenfly5090
      @mr.greenfly5090 Рік тому +3

      KARTOFFELPUFFER! I literally died on my chair! Great content!

    • @thatoldme1234
      @thatoldme1234 Рік тому

      Vocabulary addition: Pancakes = Palatschinken

    • @mjustm2
      @mjustm2 11 місяців тому +1

      @@thatoldme1234 pretty sure that’s only in Austria, elsewhere it’s Pfannkuchen

  • @polarvortex6496
    @polarvortex6496 Рік тому +129

    “Imperial German accidentally makes a key mistake by assuming the train timetable is accurate” just (pardon the pun) tracks so well.
    Also if kAN ever comes down to the Museum, get him on the show with a trash can helmet to cover his face if he doesn’t want to show it

    • @Dumbrarere
      @Dumbrarere Рік тому +4

      LIMES!

    • @notmuch_23
      @notmuch_23 Рік тому +7

      Lime this user!

    • @1MBStudios
      @1MBStudios Рік тому +6

      Kan has shown his face many times. He used to stream, and you can go watch his April fool's scrap mechanic video with scrapman. He has a face cam in an MS paint version of the gear like scrapman has

    • @silmarian
      @silmarian Рік тому +4

      @@1MBStudios Sure, but a trash can with glowing eyes would be amazing.

    • @drachenfliger1368
      @drachenfliger1368 Рік тому +5

      Lmao most German mistake back then, nowadays it would be the complete opposite

  • @realcanadian67
    @realcanadian67 Рік тому +17

    Inspector Carr Horn, immigration officer for the State of Maine, famous for 1915 Vanceboro international bridge bombing

  • @trainmaster844
    @trainmaster844 Рік тому +36

    Always love these fun episodes and learning/laughing along with “Citation Needed”. I’ll see if there’s any fun stories from the Wilmington & Western and the Rockton & Rion to submit for the next season.

  • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
    @TheOneTrueDragonKing Рік тому +14

    These 3/4 idiot shows ROCK. They never fail to leave me laughing SERIOUSLY hard. Sometimes I even forget to breathe, I'm laughing so hard.
    Whenever the limes come out, I start laughing, and at the end I always exclaim "HYCE!"
    If you four hadn't been museum railroaders you DEFINITELY could have been a comedy act!
    I could DEFINITELY go for more Citation Needed.

  • @croom1278
    @croom1278 Рік тому +12

    i woke up for this, i do not regret it.

  • @Nareimooncatt
    @Nareimooncatt Рік тому +16

    Film these during open hours as a new museum special event? I'd pay good money to watch this live... Assuming I was anywhere remotely close to Colorado. XD

  • @RC-Nightshift_ADHD
    @RC-Nightshift_ADHD Рік тому +26

    These seasons are wonderful! Cheers to more!

  • @AstralAnimater
    @AstralAnimater Рік тому +9

    18:40 As someone who has played D&D, Carr Horn is a vibe

  • @Elliottblancher
    @Elliottblancher Рік тому +12

    Can you talk about prairie style architecture used by railroads? No one has talked about prairie style yet and it looks quite interesting on railroads

  • @NKP765PRODUTIONS
    @NKP765PRODUTIONS Рік тому +32

    As a ww1 and ww2 and train nerd I like it
    👇 thanks for the likes

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock Рік тому +14

    You should do one for the USS barb who is credited with sinking several ships and a locomotive

    • @Spook_Boi
      @Spook_Boi Рік тому

      Thatt happened twice?? i knew about Eugene Flucky who commanded a submarine in ww2 named the USS Barbus (Barb), and they ratioed a lot of the japanese navy as well as going "see that train that just went into that jap port? yea? i dont wanna see it". but please do tell im intrigued

    • @mikefilipkowski5445
      @mikefilipkowski5445 Рік тому +3

      how did USS Gato sink a locomotive of all things?!

    • @trainmaster844
      @trainmaster844 Рік тому +3

      @@mikefilipkowski5445 It didn’t sink an locomotive, but the crew from the ship did make an on-shore attack against an enemy train and it was credited as a “k!ll”.

    • @Spook_Boi
      @Spook_Boi Рік тому +4

      @@mikefilipkowski5445 not sure about the Gato but the way the electrician on the USS Barbus did it was hook up the scuttle charge to a pressure switch, go out in the middle of the night, plant it, run like hell, and wait. train went ~200 ft in the air cuz 65 pounds of raw tnt, and went in the drink

    • @AirJimInCT
      @AirJimInCT Рік тому +2

      It was Barb, not Gato

  • @QuebecGamer20
    @QuebecGamer20 Рік тому +9

    This has been hilarious every Time! Cant Wait for Season 3!

  • @DC4260Productions
    @DC4260Productions Рік тому +4

    I love the use of 346's bell as a stand-in for Mystery Biscuits.

  • @Mr.Railfan
    @Mr.Railfan Рік тому +21

    Great video! Have you heard that Canadian Pacific #2816 is getting overhauled to make a trip from Calgary, CA to Mexico City?

    • @seymoarsalvage
      @seymoarsalvage Рік тому +4

      Yee. It should be on KCS trackage... which is right down my road lol

    • @superwaygames
      @superwaygames Рік тому

      It’s probably going to be like “WHY IS IT SO *WHISTLE* HOT!!!”

    • @thefaulnt3562
      @thefaulnt3562 Рік тому

      When?

    • @Mr.Railfan
      @Mr.Railfan Рік тому

      My guess would be sometime in June, July, or August.

    • @thefaulnt3562
      @thefaulnt3562 Рік тому

      @@Mr.Railfan thanks

  • @andrewkruszka1674
    @andrewkruszka1674 Рік тому +5

    Great video! Your 3/4 of an idiot videos never cease to make me laugh. The Blazing Saddles reference was great lol.

  • @Atlas525
    @Atlas525 Рік тому +8

    🎉 THE GRANDE FINALE 🎉

  • @errolbuggufin
    @errolbuggufin Рік тому +4

    Love the story! The Demoman joke reminded me of a locomotive that appears in TF2 that apparently is currently at the Colorado Railroad museum.
    DRGW #50 if I’m correct.

  • @Morphior
    @Morphior Рік тому +2

    That bell sounds really, really good.

  • @christopherbraud
    @christopherbraud Рік тому +4

    On a side note, my dad owns the exact same brand of engine lift that sits behind Leighton.
    Love these videos, so sad to see season two end, so excited to see season three. Can’t wait to see who the next special guest is.❤

  • @HWRR12
    @HWRR12 Рік тому +4

    Can't wait for season 3 maybe flying scotsman us tour would be pretty good for Citation Needed

  • @rgsrrofnc
    @rgsrrofnc Рік тому +6

    Alamosa. Alamosa. Alamosa!
    More! More! More! More!
    So much fun guys. Thank you.

  • @pubbarian
    @pubbarian Рік тому +4

    love citation needed always look forward to them, but getting the second one makes me a little sad cause that means no new 3/4 idiots episodes for a while.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +4

      We do have to film the next season soon!

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 Рік тому +3

    Next season Citation Needed on the Great Locomotive Chase!

  • @gamingdoggo66
    @gamingdoggo66 Рік тому +2

    Hyce should talk about how Germany 2nd poorly attempt on the railroad during WW II how it was over before it even began.

    • @gamingdoggo66
      @gamingdoggo66 Рік тому

      Here’s the link to the Wikipedia article on it
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius

  • @spencerclauser1531
    @spencerclauser1531 Рік тому +10

    You should do this one Leaked audio reveals US rail workers were told to skip inspections as Ohio crash prompts scrutiny to industry

  • @stevemellin5806
    @stevemellin5806 Рік тому +4

    You guys have a great time .lots of laughs . Have a great week .....a good story also.

  • @statelyelms
    @statelyelms Рік тому +1

    So cool to see Hyce and the other 3/4 of an idiot cover a topic involving my province! I was wondering why Vanceboro sounded familiar.. it's right across the border from the rail hub of McAdam, New Brunswick, which has a STUNNING chateau-style railway station/hotel that the small town just restored recently.
    Also, all the railroading Hyce brought me into inspired me to take a book out of the local library on the rail history of my New Brunswick - it is expansive for such a small province! So many interesting stories. From milling tycoons building loads of narrow-gauge to profit from the government subsidy of land-for-rail-mile, to trying to build a rail line from the Bay of Fundy to the St. Lawrence to bypass the winter ice, to building a SHIP RAILWAY to CARRY WHOLE SHIPS 25KM OVER LAND from the Bay of Fundy to the Northumberland Strait (the Chignecto Ship Railway) and more.. it's so cool knowing all of this happened here! A shame it all got torn up in the 80s..
    P.S. No Brett, it's in New Brunswick, not Newfoundland! Newfoundland's the island on the far far eastern end, and was still an independent British colony at the time believe it or not. You probably got mixed up with their St. John's vs our Saint John.. it happens a lot..

  • @thebanananacam
    @thebanananacam Рік тому +1

    The title reminded me of how a ww2 sub "sunk" a train.

  • @GP30_Foamer
    @GP30_Foamer Рік тому +5

    I always love these videos, there’s never a dull moment, also those German imitations had me rolling on the floor laughing.

  • @katies6426
    @katies6426 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful. Could also do the Dupont (Washington) train collision.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      Ugh. We could. lol

  • @abyssminiaturestudios6103
    @abyssminiaturestudios6103 Рік тому +1

    😂 can't wait to finish this on lunch break

  • @NathanLougy
    @NathanLougy Рік тому +1

    Yes! Please do more of these videos! Great for a good laugh, and the extra train history is nice too! 😁

  • @erumaaro6060
    @erumaaro6060 Рік тому

    2:20 You have been clipped, sirs.
    Have a good day.

  • @crosshammer1787
    @crosshammer1787 Рік тому +1

    Funny and fun video. I was laughing the entire time, especially when the limes went flying

  • @andrewreynolds4949
    @andrewreynolds4949 Рік тому +1

    Going with the current disasters theme on the show, I recommend looking up the Dover Oklahoma bridge collapse, which resulted in a massive lawsuit

  • @cedarvalleyrail8419
    @cedarvalleyrail8419 Рік тому +1

    I'd put the bell cord under the table for more discreet operation

  • @polarjet1833
    @polarjet1833 Рік тому +1

    Never in my life would I think I would hear a man yelling “lime that man” to a man holding a lime wedge

  • @patricksheary2219
    @patricksheary2219 Рік тому +2

    Omg, you idiots absolutely hilarious! Hollywood couldn’t improve on the looniness of that story! Thanks Mark for another “idiotic” season (my lime shield is up 🤣)! Looking forward to the next season’s installments! Cheers to you all.

  • @transportfanaticsshorts
    @transportfanaticsshorts Рік тому +1

    Great video and story.

  • @GlennHolland
    @GlennHolland Рік тому +1

    By far some of the most entertaining railroad/history/preservation content on UA-cam. The 3/4 gang vibe so well with each other and can do well with whoever the (un)lucky fourth happens to be.
    Can't wait for more Citation Needed, Two of these People are Lying, and 3/4 Idiots!

  • @magrogrem9234
    @magrogrem9234 Рік тому

    I have to say hyce you got some good chuckels out of me grüße aus Deutschland

  • @creepermaster6193
    @creepermaster6193 Рік тому +2

    Finally something related to war! Thank you for the bell 346! And a question for you hyce, what is your favorite bass guitar and standard electric guitar.

  • @hadinossanosam4459
    @hadinossanosam4459 Рік тому +1

    38:37 Actually "Three quarters of these people are idiots" would be the perfect title for this imo - clear Tom Scott reference, but it is a different vibe, and also a nice reference to the three quarters joke. And the last quarter is whoever is currently giving the correct answer :P

  • @sirrliv
    @sirrliv Рік тому +2

    Love these specials. And yes, I've got so many ideas for both Citation Needed and Two Of These People Are Lying.

  • @michaelhayes1678
    @michaelhayes1678 Рік тому +1

    Love it! Lots of fun! More please! :D I'd send stories if I had them.

  • @BMMEC6000
    @BMMEC6000 Рік тому +1

    I’ve been underdressed (by modern standards) in Maine during a mild winter and to think that he was out there for THAT long is just crazy!

  • @lowellpearson8782
    @lowellpearson8782 8 місяців тому

    Geat keep it going fun stuff. now for logging that is a kick.

  • @AirJimInCT
    @AirJimInCT Рік тому

    34:20 a highly acceptable Who’s Line reference. Bravo

  • @lonestarlocomotive7467
    @lonestarlocomotive7467 Рік тому +1

    The ryker maneuvers was because before next generation the actor injured his back. Which is also why ryker puts his leg up anytime he can.

  • @Vectrum0013
    @Vectrum0013 Рік тому

    i've been waiting for a new citation needed

  • @flamedude_1111
    @flamedude_1111 Рік тому

    0:41
    Be careful Brett doesn't fly away.

  • @rescues_greyhounds
    @rescues_greyhounds Рік тому

    Love the Blazing Saddles references!

  • @yukonxl5723
    @yukonxl5723 Рік тому

    aww man, the air compressor didn't sneeze

  • @raymondchason2877
    @raymondchason2877 Рік тому +1

    i like this hope for season three with more stores and trying to see who lies

  • @Palerider1942
    @Palerider1942 Рік тому

    THis story needs to be a film XD

  • @AtkataffTheAlpha
    @AtkataffTheAlpha Рік тому

    "Lime that man. LIME THAT MAN!"
    - Mark "Hyce" Huber

  • @NEAFarmKid4010
    @NEAFarmKid4010 Рік тому

    This was awesome lol! I believe Brett is 4 for 4 on the Citation Needed shows. As always, great job and hopefully there will be another season of the 3/4 Idiot Show soon.

  • @specialfunnelstudios5523
    @specialfunnelstudios5523 Рік тому

    You should do this on the big boy crash

  • @imaginekarma8582
    @imaginekarma8582 Рік тому +1

    Car horns in that era went awoOOOga

  • @robertherronen2957
    @robertherronen2957 Рік тому

    They get better and better

  • @thefaulnt3562
    @thefaulnt3562 Рік тому +1

    the story of how a theme park in California (Knott's Berry Farm) got Rio Grande engines

  • @gilligan8795
    @gilligan8795 Рік тому +1

    I have a complaint.
    There aren't enough episodes.

  • @bluescrew3124
    @bluescrew3124 Рік тому

    Super funny & great story Hyce!

  • @davidrickey3000
    @davidrickey3000 Рік тому

    I LOVE this show. The timing, the history, the citrus! (In a German accent)

  • @richardjayroe8922
    @richardjayroe8922 Рік тому +2

    How about the German plan to do the same thing but most US east coast train infrastructure during WW2. I like this

  • @fabiansawilla7911
    @fabiansawilla7911 Рік тому +1

    The name "Franz von Papen" sounded familiar to me. Well, turns out he later, among other things, became Hitler's Vice-Chancellor...

  • @falfan7.62
    @falfan7.62 Рік тому

    oh cool
    a story that kinda takes place in New Brunswick
    very nice

  • @MASTERCHIEF1062
    @MASTERCHIEF1062 5 місяців тому

    hearing "smoke and a pancake?" I instantly was like rekideki Dutch bastard.

  • @kristophermobley6592
    @kristophermobley6592 Рік тому

    I've got to remember 1-800-NOT-MY-PROBLEM, that part about killed me😆

  • @weird1012
    @weird1012 Рік тому +1

    Train+WWI go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @kfcgaming4891
    @kfcgaming4891 Рік тому

    Love the video hyce

  • @huntermccornack5162
    @huntermccornack5162 Рік тому

    Loved it can't wait for next one

  • @Grigori423
    @Grigori423 Рік тому

    We need to see slow-mo shot of limes exploding after beeing hit by Bret's machete! Style points if the fragments hits somebody's face (watching act of slashing vigorously on a table levlel or in the air) :D Also an advice- just tie longer string to a bell cord ;)

  • @IndustrialParrot2816
    @IndustrialParrot2816 Рік тому +1

    Something cool is the newfoundland railway was actually narrow gauge so I order to get to St John you had to change gauge on New Brunswick also newfoundland wasn't part of Canada at that point

  • @behnkarrlsun
    @behnkarrlsun Рік тому

    I love Citation Needed.

  • @ProtonTheProtogen
    @ProtonTheProtogen Рік тому

    Hyce, you and Kan should get an Eureka and name it Edward on the C.R.A.P line

  • @railfanjamie6147
    @railfanjamie6147 Рік тому +1

    Not a very noteworthy story but a good friend of mine was a higher-up for the C&NW and later UP (he’s retired and now runs the interurbans at the IRM). He was telling me of a picture that hung up on a wall in an office in Chicago of a C&NW stack train that got stuck under a bridge with a sign that said “no stack trains”. It’s probably in a box somewhere in the dungeons of the Union Pacific HQ now lol

  • @lordsherifftakari4127
    @lordsherifftakari4127 Рік тому

    inactivation is the term used to describe that formal shutdown of a combat unit.
    the Lime heard across UA-cam

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      Take that, Brett! :D

  • @HuntOfficial1776
    @HuntOfficial1776 Рік тому

    Could you talk about the time the New York central strapped a jet engine to a Budd Rail Diesel Car?

  • @godlugner5327
    @godlugner5327 Рік тому

    9:56 I like to think this is similar to how south Park episodes get written

  • @wolffang-vz2ty
    @wolffang-vz2ty 3 місяці тому

    I like to imagine grandma is just smiling at her idiots as they play their game and borrow her bell

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  3 місяці тому

      I'd hope so. She's pretty calm as far as engines go. Lol

  • @Dan_Gyros
    @Dan_Gyros Рік тому

    sounds like a plan from an 80s spy cartoon

  • @skylershummingbird1667
    @skylershummingbird1667 Рік тому

    The more and more I listen to this (I'm at the flag on arm part), the more I understand why they lost the war...

  • @notmuch_23
    @notmuch_23 Рік тому

    These are pretty good, I'm looking forward to Lawrie Rose being the fourth person someday!

  • @superbluhedgehog1
    @superbluhedgehog1 Рік тому

    I have a suggestion for a future Citation Needed for an incident near my area over 100 years ago, but all I have is newspaper articles, not an official incident report from any investigation agency. A: would that be enough?, And B: if so, where shall I send it? Loved this story, and the hijinks of the 3/4 of an idiot crew. Can't wait for next season!

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      Shoot it over to the channel e-mail at hyce7777@gmail.com! :)

  • @drewbarker8504
    @drewbarker8504 Рік тому

    346 has such a lovely sounding bell. Such a great addition to this fantastic nonsense
    Hyce, you should have kept your moustache just for this occasion-wax it to look like Kaiser Wilhelm 😂

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +1

      That would've been perfect, had we not filmed this 5 weeks before the mustache occurred! :D

    • @drewbarker8504
      @drewbarker8504 Рік тому

      @@Hyce777 This is true! And apparently you didn’t know you needed Brett’s secret Pickelhaube helmet either!

  • @rescues_greyhounds
    @rescues_greyhounds Рік тому

    Please let Season 3 begin tomorrow

  • @MainlineThruTheRockies
    @MainlineThruTheRockies Рік тому

    Could we maybe see Jimmy’s friend Dusty from the museum next? 😛

  • @panzerkampfwagonmausbattalion

    They should have yeeted that big with schwere gustav railroad gun

  • @HclPudding
    @HclPudding Рік тому

    Some day, years from now, someone's going to find a lime in the stack of '20 and nobody is going to know why.

  • @frantasramota1359
    @frantasramota1359 Рік тому

    I know a railway story from Czechoslovakia about the mysterious light that killed 118 people.

  • @bobbysenterprises3220
    @bobbysenterprises3220 Рік тому

    See all that happens when you turn back around to watch the explosion.

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper Рік тому

    No! Please no sound file of that one, but some engineering for ringing it!
    It is sort of the random fun to see if Hyce can manage to get a single gong or two out of it :P

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +1

      It ended up hurting the flow which is why we soundfiled it.

  • @railroadactive
    @railroadactive Рік тому

    Not so fun fact. The disaster at Lac Megantic in 2013 occurred on this same line. I did hear of this incident before but I didn't hear of all the funny details

  • @themidnightbanshee5927
    @themidnightbanshee5927 Рік тому

    I've been watching this show for a couple of episodes and I still don't know what's up with the limes
    And 1-800 not my problem
    Friggin killed me dude XD
    One of you might get lime disease

  • @ktydeck
    @ktydeck Рік тому

    Railroad nerds together.. What can go wrong? ;)

  • @ashipcrafter2440
    @ashipcrafter2440 Рік тому +1