The Fanta Bomb & Improvised Munitions in Ukraine
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2023
- Improvised munitions including grenades have appeared in Ukraine over the past 12 months. They are often based on drinks cans or bottles and are filled with readily available explosive materials and in some cases fragmentation material for an increased anti-personnel effect. In this video, we look at various types of improvised munition which have been observed in the field.
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a lot of the stuff sent by the west has been stolen and sold on the black market
An the government corruption an that.
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Although I don’t understand the principle, I really like it
From what I read about the US in Vietnam, it was a regular practice by US forces to crush drinks cans so the VC couldn't use them to make improvised grenades.
In Iraq, we were warned not to throw MRE bags out of vehicles while on the road because they could be used to hide IED's.
Absolutely, however the VC ones usually had far more effort put into them. Not that the end result wouldn't probably be the same, but the VC had far less access to factory-made grenade fuzes or ball bearings. Fragmentation was typically made from thin steel rods cut into short segments with a hand shear and while they could sometimes salvage fuzes from expended US smoke grenades and refill them there weren't nearly enough for the quantity they were making so fuzes were usually made from scratch with a friction ignitor. For that reason as well as the sheer quantity they were making they had to be made in dedicated workshops rather than literally in the trenches such as at 1:40 in this video.
Pretty sure it was because the cans were the perfect size to put the grenade in and hold the spoon down. Just needed to pull it out and it would start the cook.
@@capcamouflagepatterni6162thanks for sharing that interesting history
I believe it’s a coal and fertilizer mix for the explosive
One Red bull and four Jager bombs please.
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I'll never look at empty scrap water bottles same again ever.
We used to make this kinda thing in highschool. Bottles filled with pebbles and flash powder from firecrackers. Ducttaped up for extra pressure build up. War makes for creative minds
Necessity is the mother of all invention
Sounds like a rough school or a final solution to a bully bullying you.
@@kongoubongo1114just bored kids with access to polish and italian fireworks 😂
Be careful with flash powder. That is some volatile and dangerous stuff.
@@MrKochshawn depends the flash powder you can get out of firework shells isnt volatile
"Redbulls, gives them wings."
Even if you have regular grenades I think making these in this situation has value. You can have custom payloads and it saves grenades for you to use and its a good use of excess explosives you couldn't or wouldn't otherwise use.
Plus, standard Russian pattern grenades (RGD-5) are high explosive only with minimal fragmentation. While these seem more fragmentation based w/ ball bearings.
@@1lovesoni tbh i saw way more F1 than rgds in vids from Ukraine
They have enough anti-tank mine to blow up half the planet. Might as well put all that explosives to use.
@@1lovesoniRgd-5 is a fragmentation grenade, it had a fragmentation liner inside the shell.
@@theriddler6994Me too, I suspect that rgd-5 are being issued to soldiers and f-1 grenades are used in drones (that’s why you see more of them from footage). I think Ukraine has a large stockpile of f-1 grenades but because they are obsolete comparing to rgd-5 or NATO supplied M67, where F-1 is heavy and have worst blast and fragmentation performance, they are used for drones instead, which doesn’t matter as much because their drone drops are accurate.
Thanks for the shoutout. We'll have to try recreating a few more of those improvised grenades.
Absolutely, enjoyed the vid! You guys could try and make some of the can grenades. That would be interesting.
^^
Yes please :)
Im a drone pilot in Ukraine.
The sort of container is irelavant but at least in my unit our sapper uses plastic bottles for pyrotechnics and beer or pop cans for HE or frag we also now use custom 3D printed casings
Grenade fuses are common as are impact detonated nose cones from Mortar and VOG grenades . Remote det, timed det and proxy or tip switch are also used .
The explosives used are normally harvested from UXOs so artillery, mortar and rocket rounds, also from TM62 mines so ammonium nitrate and TNT basically but i have seen some real comp and even C4.
As far as I know they dont get used as grenades as they tend to be too powerful. But im sure its happened.
Generally. Bomb weight is 450 g for a DJI mavic 1.5/3kg for an normal 7" FPV but you can scale up FPVs and bomb size accordingly.
There are also things like water/sea mines being produced and even Hamas style home made rockets and launcher..... I like my job . I have a channel if anyone is interested
Thanks for the extra insights!
Keep up good work BigMak and stay safe, love your videos.
I hope you are staying safe. Keep up the good work. America stands with Ukraine.
So, when is it your turn to feed the dogs, tarasik?)
What's real comp?
Now THAT is a fizzy drink!
2:42 Gives new meaning to "Red Bull gives you wings"
Especially when that bottle overheats under you, johny boy.)
Don't forget the morale boost these improvised explosives provide. It's the "Fucking around with fireworks" type of acts with the boys that boost morale a lot.
Trillions of dollars of sponsorship to have to fight with pet bottles. That really boosts someone's morale.
@@charles2521 The only Ukrainian getting sponsored is Zelensky. All the others are simply fodder for us Americans to use against Russia
true lmao@@charles2521
Your math is as bad as your logic.
If you've never been to war or even been in a life or death struggle you shouldn't be speaking when the adults are speaking.
Stupid Russian bot
How is being straight edge working out for you?
One key point here, the Ukrainians doing this is not reserved only for this battle. The US/UK/AUS/CA and nearly all other militaries around the world have Combat Engineers who specialize in improvised explosives, tactics, and operations, to adapt to the changing needs of the battlefield. I only mention the (4) Alliance nations above because they are most well known for it, especially British and American. The US has a vast array of tools available to the Combat Engineer to get the job done. Various types of explosives in various prepackaged quantities and shapes, various initiation devices as well. The only difference here is that the Ukrainians are filming all of this in real time and the world is getting to see it. They are also using it at a rate far greater than we have seen before which shows how dynamic and unpredictable the shape of the battlefield is. I find this absolutely fascinating.
To note. The improvised drink bottle bombs they are making are akin to the WWII "Potato Masher" stick grenade that was used by Germany. Normal blast/frag grenades only have tens to a hundred grams of HE contained within. When you need something far bigger, and you need it to be dead accurate, and you don't have artillery, these fit the bill perfectly. Essentially a stop-gap.
That's how the flashbang came to be.
ok, but like... wouldnt a bullet kill that single person better than a plastic bottle filled with explosives that are going to be detonated without any actual case?
i mean... look at a pressure cooker.. right. thats not a plastic bottle or a 1mm thick aluminum can that is already compromised.
Look up "US Army Munitions Handbook"
It's common practice to train and supply troops with the means to manufacture improvised munitions of every type imaginable. I imagine special forces or some other infantry units from other countries have a similar program
Террористы используют такие методы, нормальные сапёры не будут мастерить что-то на коленке. ИМХО
@@alti1095 Your sappers aren't doing so well, are they? A Chinese labour battalion will reeducate you.
The IRA has a long history of improvised grenades, coffee can bombs were pretty devastating and multi purpose. They could be thrown like a regular hand grenade or used with a trip wire. The biggest difference was the arming method, instead of a traditional grenade fuse they used a 9v battery with a switch which was used to ignite a fuse leading to a conventional blasting cap. The glass fragmentation was horrific and could tear you to pieces, plus you can't use a metal detector to find the pieces so you have to either use an xray and a skilled surgeon or have a medic dig around to find each piece. Given the glass was sharp you can't just leave it in either, it'll just keep cutting you internally.
The one seen in the video looks like ammonal to me or a wax like explosive liquified, mixed with bearings and poured into the bottles. As to why, I would speculate maybe they've captured large amounts of fuses without the shells and are repurposing them, it could also be they simply want a much larger blast when dropping them from drones. Each drone is expensive so you want to inflict as much damage as possible if the drone gets shot down. Each of those bottles looks to be double or triple the amount of explosives in a traditional grenade.
Ammonal would be ideal, all you need is fertilizer and aluminium powder. So one person with a belt grinder could make dozens of these grenades daily.
If I had to give them some advice it would be to stop mixing the bearings in with the explosive, instead wrap tape around the bottle to hold a layer of bearings on the outside to maximise fragmentation. If they really want to take it up a notch, use long 250ml cans filled with explosive inside a larger can with bearings in the larger can. So it has two layers of fragmentation from the cans combined with the bearings. They could also wrap chicken wire around the cans sort of similar to the AIM-9X early warheads to create expanding rings of metal that sever limbs.
Hope I never upset you.
I wouldn't say that Drones are expensive, looking at what something equivalent would cost from an arms manufacturer, they're dirt cheap. And they're hard to destroy as well.
Rather they can be hard to source. Few drones are sold to Ukraine, the vast majority are bought outside the country and transported in.
@@Celciusify Well considering they cost around 500-1000 and most of them seem to be purchased or donated by the soldiers/foreigners I'd say they are pretty expensive to lose.
If it was the Government purchasing them it would be a different story but as it stands someone losing their drone means they now need to find and purchase a new one themselves or get one that was donated.
@@WarlordEnthusiastthere a consumable now, I think :/
Thanks for the education, some handy tips. :)
The surprising part about this to me is the availability of those fuses. Explosives are common in the Millitary and obtainable for a civilian. But fuses would seem like the hardest part to aquire.
Either pilfered from a normal hand grenade, or spare parts. The drones have a maximum carrying capacity, and you want to maximize their utility.
These improvised munitions is a bi product of using commercial drones for grenade drops. There are no NATO or Sovyet standard for grenades dropped from small drones, and everything dropped from these drones are improvised. In future wars I expect actual military drones in this size and role, and there will be mass produced munitions for it.
I suspect those fuses are from Police stun grenades, etc.
I'ma look up DIY grenade fuses now.
Making a bomb is simple,it's more difficult to make a fuze.
I think they probably have a stock of them, for such purposes. Probably bought in large amounts.
A lot are also likely made by guys on the front who know they go through a lot of grenades so they make their own to increase their grenade supply
As good as grenades are these Fanta bombs have much longe and more concentrated fragmentation range. The result of that one in the video strapped to a drones shows how the drone actually hits about 4 metres from the russian yet you see puffs of dust come from his whole body and he looks insta Kia.
Grenade fuzes are sent with the grenade bodies themselves...if you have a fuze you have the rest of the grenade.
The reason for these devices is specifically for clearing Russian bunkers. The additional explosive power (about 5 times as much as a normal grenade) will collapse a Russian bunker when thrown in when being cleared...the normal grenades aren't as effective.
3:00 i can think of another reason why these muntiions are being made. It's an example of trench art. Albeit the explosive kind if you notice a lot of them have messages.
World war 2 veterans as well as modern veterans would say war is very boring punctuated with seconds of a mixture of pure excitement and terror.
I'd say it's more from the lack of proper munitions. Where oh where did all those billions go lol
@@nicholasholloway8743 money doesnt turn into munitions overnight ... there's a paper trail and congressional oversight.
@@nicholasholloway8743we forgot the sheer scale of the war. 800+km front line, hundreds of thousands of troops.
@@mr6johnclark haaaaaa. it's not like they're making new stuff. they're selling off expired shit from the 80's. oh yeah how's that congressional oversight going? on the front line doing inventory are they? or are the weapons now on the black market hm?
They didn't send them a box with billions of dollars of cash in it you dumb right wing fool.
Even if they had, what do you think Ukraine could do with a box of billions in cash....walk into Walmart in Kiev and buy C4, mortars, hand grenades,manpads, drones etc
If you don't know how the US is supporting Ukraine and what these donations are composed of you don't need to be speaking when the adults are speaking
Additionally, I'd imagine an improvised grenade that still (mostly) looks like the drink can/bottle it was made from would be quite useful when setting booby traps as it could quite easily be mistaken for normal detritus.
It's easier to leave a bottle of vodka with rat poison on the road as a weapon of mass destruction :)
I’m gonna end up on a watchlist for liking this vid but it’s worth it.
Can't imagine what I'm on for making it haha. Thanks for watching!
and yet global news was so eager to tell us mixing Styrofoam in gasoline is fine
had been thinking about soda bottle grenades for a while, especially those small 33cl ones. interesting seeing that idea in practice.
i think people over rate frag grenades, they are useful bit they don't do the kind of damage that most people think. Some of those craft produced grenades look a good deal more destructive than a factory made frag.
Frag grenades are also somewhat limited by the fact they’re meant to be thrown. If you make the lethal radius too big then they kill the user as well.
@@cm275which means that these grenades are fairly likely to be airdropped via drone. You don't physically have to throw these things so you can cram as much explosive and fragmentation parts as you can + the empty bottles are readily available. Plus it saves actual grenades and mortar rounds for frontline ground troops
English please.
@@cm275
Well for defensive hand grenades that create a lot of fragments the assumption is basically that you’re behind cover like a wall or in a trench when they explode.
Offensive hand grenades produce less fragments as you don’t want to get killed by your own hand grenade.
The German DM51 hand grenade (100.000 got delivered to Ukraine by Germany at the start of the war) allows you to use it either as a defensive hand grenade with the attached fragmentation mantlet that forms some 6.500 fragments or as an offensive hand grenade by removing the fragmentation mantlet.
@@cm275well you get defensive and attacking grenades now, the defensive ones are meant to be thrown from behind cover and have a much bigger kill range, attacking ones often dont even conrain any shrapnel and are used for room clearing and things like that
They'd be a lot more effective if they epoxied the fragmentation to the inside of the containers. The US found that loose ball bearings don't accelerate well during the development of the claymore mine.
Well, I don't think they can find epoxy in those situations though.
@@DonVetto-vx9dd any sort of glue will work
@@PatchesFlannigan knowledge should be free and available, you don't get to decide what is and isn't appropriate. Bad people will always do bad things, one way or another. High explosives aren't exactly readily available for the average person and anyone who is willing to go to the trouble of making them is going to.
@@PatchesFlannigan but they can freely advocate and encourage the youth to mutilate themselves and take drugs that effect them for the rest of their lives. The anarchist Cookbook is outdated and not that informative. If said 17 year old wanted knowledge they would find it.
Great video. Thanks
During the Vietnam War, personnel in my squadron put used Coke cans and other debris in the bomb fins. An after damage report credited a Coke can with a KIA.
Another good type of object to use for such ideas - is the ballcock from cisterns: the plastic, round ballcock - cheap to purchase and conveniently shaped, ready to fill with whatever you want: and the mounting screw hole for the detonator after it is prepped.
Thanks, I always find your video's interesting. In this case it's just like the chaps in the trenches in WW1 & Gallipoli, filling bully beef cans with powder and shrapnel. What was old is new again. Cheers
Very interesting. Keep up the good work.
Another great video by the Armorers Bench.
Thank you!!
there was a recent video of a drone dropping what appeared to be a round AT mine into a mortar trench - if had quite a long delay but the bang was quite large!
never new about these , great vid bro
Thanks!
They could also be utilizing left over fuse devices from other grenades that that were used to augment things like rpg’s
It also adds some shock value against an enemy which is demoralizing when your best mates are being taken out by a soda bottle!
As to why they aren’t using factory made grenades, i think a lot of it is these guys are also using what they are able to capture from enemy positions. Use the manufactured ones during the assault, scrounge up the captured munitions, resupply your self and keep pushing through the objective. As opposed to “We’ve taken point A. Now we gotta wait a few days or more to start on point B”
ya probably just repurposing danger putty from various munitions, i think that's the purpose of the cluster munitions as well, crack one of those baby's open and you got a bunch of drone capable munitions.
These are all made during down time to extend the supply of the real grenades and such. Making homemade things like this is practice in every Combat Engineer Bible.
Probably because Ukraine is running low on supplies.
@Nobody-Nowhere as a former soldier who's job was explosives & land mines. We would build things out of pure boredom. There's literally a Bible for the Combat Engineers that explains how to make such items. One would use the to stretch your real supply longer.
@Nobody-Nowhere plus it leaves the real grenades to mission critical people like infantryman. These such devices would not be used by a ground troop storming a Dugout. One counts on reliability of equipment in that situation.
I'm still waiting to see the Taiwanese Revolver 860 drones in action in Ukraine. Those things should be insanely devastating.
Ukraine has some drones like that. There is a group called perun who use a drone that can drop 4 anti tank grenades and the SBU and groups like magyars birds use the r18 drone to drop 3 warheads that usually can destroy a tank In 2 hits. Magyars birds which is the most effective strike unit is now upscaling by 5x the size so that terrifying in terms of the level of destruction that might be reached.
Easy to shoot down, they're loud.
@@yoyogi52 Which is why they are typically used at night.
You may be waiting for ever unfortunately. Haven't seen nor heard about those Taiwan drones since last year.
The more technical items of interest are the release mechanisms and .stl files for the printed components. Striker-fired improvised fuses similar to how BDU-33 practice bomb spotting charges would be easy to make but they have heaps of Soviet grenades and parts so using fuses makes sense.
1 to 2 kg of explosive in one of these energy drink grenades is alot of explosive. Just comparing it to WW2 American grenades, they had roughly 65g of explosive filler. Just one kg of explosive is 1000g. 😳
Frag grenades are using the casing as a pressure vessel to maximize the pressure spike of the explosion so when the detonation occurs the fragmentation is expelled at high velocities, the actual concussive damage radius is quite low. With these lightweight flimsy cans instead of preformed steel casings, you need to rely on the concussion of the explosive itself to create a lethal shockwave which requires a much larger charge.
Honestly I think they're miscalculating. 1,000 ml of water weighs exactly 1kg. Most soda cans and softdrink bottles hold only around 350 to 800ml. Even if plastic explosive weighs more than water, you still have to fill the space up with ball bearings and shrapnel. So I think it's impossible to fill a bottle with 2kg of explosive. Also, I boil a half kilo of rice every day and I can easily estimate any weight under 3kg. Now if you said that the entire bomb (explosive plus ball bearings) weighs two kilograms, then I might believe it.
Grenade casing is plastic.The fragments are around the outside.
@@eugeneoreilly9356 not sure if you're replying to my comment, but M67 grenades are absolutely steel cased. The same is the case with the older M26 and Mk2.
@@colbunkmust never used a steel cased grenade.Only used plastic cased ones (Swedish made),45 grams propellant,950 fragments.Very small pellets with serrated ring at top and bottom.Cant remember if they had a designation as it's a long while ago.
Great video. Good information and learned some valuable lessons here. Keep up the good work and good luck with the channel
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2:40 These Redbull... *Will definitely give Ivan wings!*
Only good purpose of a fashionable dumb drink.
Da comrade! It will set you free!
I suspect stronger hand grenades/ throwable explosive charges are something many military are looking into due to this conflict. I've seen many cases of handgrenades being surprisingly ineffective even at very close range.
there's a mythbusters episode about grenades, sure it said if you're laying down they only have an effective range up to 1 meter, if standing up though it's a good distance, around 15 meters if i remember correctly.
How is the pin pulled? Pre take off and then something keeps the spoon in place until an actuator drops it or is there a system so that the pin is pulled in the air?
Oh, wow! At around 2:54 that image of the five improvised grenades - the one on the far right actually has an old WWII-era Koveshnikov-type fuse! The UZRG-M replaced those during the war, so that thing's been hanging around since the 40s! It might not even fire after all this time.
Thanks for this now I go to store and buy non-stop nrg drink!
It’s also something to preoccupy yourself with while combating boredom
In this case "red bull" does give you wings 😂😂
Where do they get grenade fuses without a grenade? Can they be bought online and shipped to your door? Curious only. I have no plans on trying to make these at home.
Where are the ball bearings coming from? I can imagine being able to scrounge things up from enemy positions or having stockpiles of fuses etc. but it seems odd to have transported pounds and pounds of ball bearings to the front lines without some alternate purpose. at that point would it be equally cost effective and easy to send proper munitions?
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When you consider that most hand grenades carry at most a few hundred grams of explosive it makes a ton of sense they're trying to manufacture ordnance with a bit more bang.
Ive seen ukrainian civilians making these but they are like sophisticated molotov cocktails/unsophisticated incendiary grenades. They fill them with broken down styrofoam and an accelerant, acetone preffered but the trsditional petrol also used. Its basically napalm and the sudden pressure, even in plastic bottles blows it everywhere, including any added shrapnel and the styrfoam makes it stick to anything nearby.
I also saw them using fuses for these sort of things triggered by blank shotgun shells, which fired when triggered by a trip wire attached to a kind of metal mechanical camp perimeter security system you can buy very cheaply online.
Mate, your pronounciation of Kropla Beskidu was spot on. Impressive :)
Thank you!! Great to know. I've butchered some pronunciations in the past so trying my best with them. Thanks for watching.
Very interesting
If a thing goes bang with enough force and shrapnel people don't work any more. I suspect the larger explosive loads are for drones . Trying to throw a couple of kilos far enough to not get in the way would take a lot of effort.
They're likely being used (mostly) for boobytraps and drones. IED's of course have a sophistication spectrum but generally they're more awkward and slower to deploy than regular grenades when being used as such. That said there's likely occasions where they can be deployed in that fashion where speed isn't of the essence. Ukrainians often try to capture enemy forces but on occasions where they won't leave the closet/room/subterranean section in a trench, they'll just throw in an explosive and in these cases it may as well be a crude cheap one.
The one I haven’t seen yet is the copper cone in a pvc tube improvised anti-tank IED. Drone carrys it, lands on top of a tank’s engine compartment, detonates, and a jet of molten copper burns down through everything.
Pvc couldnt probably take the pressure to keep the cone structure. At the shop i worked out just a 175psi air compressor use to blow it out.
would these plastic and aluminum can casings lead to a diminished effect in terms of explosive power? i was under the impression you want a tougher casing to allow a higher pressure to develop within the bomb before it cracks open and fragments
High explosive like C4 doesn't require a container to build pressure. It is devastating as is.
Low explosive like gun powder needs containment to build pressure (a running start).
very impressive!
Might I suggest a cheap laser pointer taped on strapped under the payload for a crude aiming method?
What level do you have to reach to unlock the crafting perk?
soldier was using a vr head set nice
1:42 What are those silver and black folders? Almost like a make-up palette
Make homemade to extend your supply of the real thing until the end. To add. Making charges was a way to pass time during Afghanistan. Especially teaching infantryman to build expedient wall charges and such. At least they're taking out the trash.😂
Cant believe so many people cannot understand that transporting any sort of military equipment (or any equipment for that matter) is harder and can sometimes take longer in an active warzone rather than a peacetime country.
And with some of those resources being illicitly diverted. Some of the reports have been interesting to read through
@@josedorsaith5261such as? I keep seeing Vatniks claim this but I’ve yet to see any proof posted.
This takes, reb bull gives you wings 🪽 to a whole other level
Someone get these guys some tall boys
Is using plastic bottles as containers reduces the radius of the explosion? Should it be harder so the pressure would be stronger? Pardon my english
Come on red bull you like sponsoring extreme sports and stuff, what is more extreme than turning old red bull cans into grenades.
It really gives new meaning to the slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings'
Ty
If they got the fuses they got the grenades so they aren’t running out or not getting the aid . I’d suspect they are building them purpose built for a specific job
Some of these are definitely way too heavy to be thrown by hand at a significant distance, which might also be the problem for the guy throwing them, especially if he needs to use them in the open field and he will be in the blast radius himself. But, that's situational. Still, the weight... That is why they are most likely resorting to drink cans; they are smaller and easier to handle.
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How are they getting fuses without the bodies. Do eastern block countries ship them separate?
If i remember correctly from another video the fuses are usually shipped separately to grenade bodies. Could be the case that the grenade bodies went to another improvised weapon or these fuses are in excess. Either way, i can't confirm if this is the case but would make the most sense as to why they have these fuses seemingly everywhere.
On youtube must be also a video of the anti tank mine granade. Looks like they drilled a hole in the side and put a fuse from a handgranade in it. Then they dropped it from a drone.
If they are having the time to figure out the details. Then they can attach a parachute to it and having airburst explosions.
Yeah, this one ua-cam.com/video/dcsf5yuEHDY/v-deo.html
Necessity is the mother of all inventions
Wouldn’t think plastic would hold much pressure, my question is where you getting all these fuses from if ya don’t have grenades, you got everything but the shell?
Seems as though theyre looking for a larger hand grenade, maybe the normal hand grenades arent doing enough damage
There's nothing new under the sun. A WW1 veteran told me how he used to fill cocoa tins with rusty nails and dynamite and hurl them into the enemy trenches. It haunted him though for the rest of his life.
Remember ww1 was men fighting other men the likeness of how a sport would be played, it was one side versus another, then they fight, stop, take lunch, and fight again, next day the same, and except your not talking about super fast super accurate and far more deadly modern ballistics, which if they don't kill you on impact, or from shock from more than one or two or three hits, your body part which is hit, is likely in extreme pain from the "impact shock" of the pure velocity+the weight of the bullet head, I'm a hunter part time, I know next to nothing about advanced ballistics and this and that, but I've seen what a 223 round does to a buck.
It completely blackened all the muscle from the shock in a tea-dinner sized plate area.
Imagine falling on your bike onto tar, or a very fast direct fall onto your knee onto tar, now times this by a few and expand the radius of pain, and add numbness for a good couple days, plus whatever organ or limb function is directly or indirectly affected, nevermind bone damage.
WW1 was a sport in the sense that as was likely the case in the second world war, it was a bunch of people who've never fought even a financial difficulty much less a combative one in they're lives,sending people who were cultured and ethical and I'd argue more loving because of hardship, to go fight for what exactly?
but arguably the most brutal war, I'd guess because of very basic medicinal technologies, limited or more empathetically put, innefective killing devices(muzzleloaders etc)which would take a while to reload, often miss and injure rather than kill etc.
Picture this, your standing side by side in a line on the early frontal assault for capturing ground,2-500m away stand the enemy doing the same thing(why?), a voice or trumpet calls and the cannons go off, next a voice shouts fire, you and a couple hundred in one line fire simultaneously, Load! You kneel down to load and you have one minute, but wait there's more, the line behind you isn't necessarily going to wait for you, they're behind you and they have to fire while you load, not only that, but the enemy has started firing, exactly the moment you started, so that means, all the cannons, all the muzzles, are firing innacurate, "lead" balls(dirty too likely)all interchanging a hail of lead all at the same time.
Right, so you and line two have fired, one of two things are going to happen, either, your now a improvised kamakazi warrior charging with your bayonet, while the enemy is doing the same, all while you meet the enemy in the middle, oh but wait, all the lines of formation behind you, aren't just watching you, they're going to shoot over you.
Infection means gangrene, gangrene means limbs lost, bayonets mean blood and vicious close quarter slicing your way through, just to make it out alive, hopefully in time for the next wave of adrenaline to come from both sides to join you, just as you've taken your first life in person.
Now move to the trenches, like your old veteran said, rusty nails my friend. Salad fingers ain't got much on that lol(scary and very odd be careful to watch if your squeamish) now granted, those guys would be bayoneted after the fight suffering, would be hopefully short lived, but these trench battles, these were likely a blessing in disguise, compared to frontal open ground assaults.
Muzzleloaders and such weren't that effective, at first it was a lead ball, then came the paper cartridge which I guess was the first primitive modern style bullet.
Likely only in the early cowboy age did that come along. Hence why you see modern bullets in most cowboy movies. At least, this is what I garner from my lifetime this far, and I've always held a keen historical interest l, as well of that of guns, combat etc.
Hope you enjoyed, sorry I have a problem xD
👍 Great idea - also raises the possibility of detonating a package in the air to reach into trenches. If they can secure reliably-timed fuses/detonators, then it's easy to calculate the height to drop them from, in order to go off say 3m from the ground.
2.40 mark - suggests there is 1 to 1.2 kg of RDX in the bottle. How do you get that much in a 500ml bottle with enough effective shrapnel?
Marvelous!!)
I can't get over how proud the maker of that Fanta bomb seemed to be, he's filming that bomb like it was a 24 inch Brown Trout..
Just as was done before in WW1 and WW2, the soldiers used improvised Grenades using Tin cans as a material. Amazing how History does seem to rhyme!
What is the video for the Georgia Legion TNT block bombing? I'd like to see its effect
Are UZRG fuzes shipped installed on the grenades or in the crate with them, or are they shipped separately? That I think would be the best indicator of if these are being made due to a shortage of grenades, or in an attempt to improve their effects.
I recall that they're separate.
separated. Fuses come in a coffee can alike container and explosive come in a wood crate
Reminds me of the final push in the Falklands, if it's big, black and flying your way - you're not going to wait to find out if it's a coke can!
So do they have a supply of grenade fuses only or does using these fuses mean a grenade is now without a fuse? I thought they generally came together.
They probably had supplies of fuzes or they think this is a better use of those fuzes. Some of these improvised grenades actually have grenades inside them.
Potatoe canonns as used by Australian fishermen are worth a look. Armourers could make a LPG or butane mortor for 20 dollars..350 mtrs 800 gms.
Another reason to make improvised munitions is that there is if there is no mass-produced ammunition suitable for the task. If you what a 3 kg warhead like the one in the soft drink bottle you can deliver from a drone hand grades are too light. There are no hand grands that are that heavy
A 82mm mortar bomb has around the right mass but the fuze in them is built so they are from the acceleration when fires so you still need to modify them. If you use one you remove one you can fire from a mortar. You do that with a hand grande and some plastic explosive
There are RPG munition with similar mass but why use a fragmentation variant if the om mad stuff works as well when dropped from a drone.
HEAT warheads are a lot harder to make and we have seen lots of RPG-7 HEAT motion dropped from drones and used on PFV drones. Ukraine has requested Mk 20 Rockeye II cluster bomb from the US, not to drop from aircraft that would like to to dangerous but to disassemble them and use the anti-tank bomblets from drones
Redbull really giving you wings these days.
That FPV drone is absolutely Bonkers yo
You'd think that we'd see more Bang energy drinks being used for this.
1:10 dropping from drones on trenches
When it's dropped it "spits" Fire in direction of it's cap
There were some videos of it being used
As they say "when life gives you lemon you make lemonade". You got to go with what you have.
In ukr vfu you go feed the dogs...)
Awesome
2:30 Red Bull gives your enemy wings lol
It's amazing we sent them 100 billion a month and they're making bombs out of soda bottles
Ukraine has not received 100 billion a month lol.
This brings a whole new meaning to redbull gives you wings.
When you're really just about to give someone their wings.
sulphur, magnesium and aluminum powder probably with a little nitrate. firework flash powder with shrapnel. they work.
Is the weight of the grenade sufficient to pull the pin when dropped?
Probably.
No, it's because money meant for military purposes is going elsewhere.
Nahh it's not. They have a ton of standard grenades. They want enhanced blast. There's not many grenades that fit their need so they've tried making their own. Very common with the drone teams too.
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this does make me wonder if they got a massive supply of fuses from somewhere but not full grenades, or if they have a huge amount of grenades but think the base-grenades suck so they're making their own??
i mean the logistics of this conflict are interesting considering the base infantry weapons are literally all over the place as well. surprised we havnt seen those lend-lease thompson SMG's from that underground armory being used en-masse yet. unless they just plain dont have ammo for them