I have a triton d10 but you really should look into something like an autel ms906 pro. You can get it for around $1500 and it has SO much more functionality than a snap on scan tool. It’s definitely worth having around as it can get you out of a jam with some of the things it can do.
I've gone 2 years without an update on my edge, lost the ability to disengage parking brake service mode on subarus. So much functionality just disappeared. Why in the world would I update to a Zeus when for the same price I can get a scanner with full functionality with topology scanning with 2 years updates (reliable updates that are seamless)for 2500$ and a pico 4 channel scope with vertical and horizontal markers, 720deg built in overlays for in cylinder pressure testing and a tone of testing tricks up its sleeve with endless online training?
I think after i sold my old modis, i will be going with a autel scanner or auto enginuity. I havent been that impressed with snap on's scan tools over the years, granted i haven't used anything outside of the old first gen modis and modis ultra.
After using autel for 2 years I DO NOT recommend anybody going with Autel for one reason only.. the speed. If autel could make their scan tools just a little bit faster i would give them a 5 star rating but as you know time is a huge factor in this field
I am researching scanners and I feel like my best bet is a new launch torque link or topdon smart and a used snap-on Verus edge with latest 23 update. I’ll spend about 3600ish for both.
Is topology worth having? which scanners have topology? My XTool D9 has topology and I love it but it is hot garbage when it comes to I/M readiness monitors, most of the time it doesn't even have an option to show it or it's just flat out wrong! Evap says it's complete but then I hook up my boss's Modis and it isn't complete. I'm looking for a new scanner
I have an Auto MS919, and I paid the additional for the Motor information which is basically a website with some pretty sparse manuals. For instance, my own 2011 BMW 328i xDrive they only have the older wiring diagrams and not the ones that were updated later in the product lifecycle. They are identical to those in the Bentley manual. But around 2014 Bentley came out with an updated version that covered the last few years of the e9x series. On the guided component tests, they only give you generic instructions which I really don't need. I need to know which wire is which like in they Triton d10 demo at 16:25, so I know which wire(s) to connect to or if I have a floating ground. In the Bentley manuals (even the newer one) and the Motors guide it just shows the wire going to the ECM and a picture of a resistor and transistor for example on all three wires. So I don't know which one is the reference signal or the output signal or whatever. So these pictures of the connectors and wire colors are what I would love to have. Sorry for the long intro, but I do have a question. Does this functionality come with the tool? Or is this some additional subscription?
Hey Mr Subaru can you do a video on Subaru torque bind??? I have a 2004 outback and a 1998 legacy gt limited both with torque bind, putting the fuse in the fwd solves the problem on both vehicles! So my research has led me to the transfer clutch pack.
Another thing look at the amount it cost for those upgrades the sure track is only good for 30 days when you get the scan but why would you pay for sure track when you have Mitchell or identifix or All data hello is all money with snap On Autel give you one years upgrades anda lot better diagnostic info than them
Could you suggest to me what scanner is best then for a 2010 Forester . I sure appreciate your videos as they have gotten me up to speed on Subaru... What Im aiming for is one that will replace my Innova code reader as it dosnt clear out old history code data.
I will never buy a SnapOn scan tool again. I paid almost 3k for mine. It has less functionality than its competitors and SnapOn quit supporting it after only 5 years. I can get a brand new Autel for about 1300 bucks and it does more. Considering the Autel cost about as much as an update for the SnapOn tool, it doesn’t really matter if they ever quit supporting it because I don’t have to shell out several grand to get the latest version.
The shop i work at has a snap on and an autel, the autel is alot newer and is one of autels best models, the autel is an absolute piece of crap, almost never reads cars on its own, half the functions dont work properly and has a giant obd2 connector that makes the whole point of it being wireless moot, not to mention the wireless apmost never actually works and you have to olug it in with the wire anyway
Our brand new Snap On scanner the shop just bought won’t even to a god damn idle relearn on a 2003 Chevy Tahoe. The Autel has that function though. I also call BS on everything you said. 4 of our techs have Autel scanners and love them. The dongle for the Autel is tiny compared to the one that came with my Verus Pro and the wireless communication has been excellent. Your just mad cause you paid several grand more for a tool that does half as much so now you talk as much shit as you can about the tool you should have bought to try and justify the ass pounding you got from that Snap On guy.
@MrSubaru187 I’m in a toss up between the triton D10 and the Apollo D9 my dealer has both of sale next week and not sure what to get. I’m at an independent dealer and doing all kinds of cars
Do I have to update my snap on scanner every year. I’m wanting to use it for reading motor and transmission codes and live data. I know updates will let me access newer models and such. Can I get away with a update every 3-4 years I have the Soulus Edge
Thanks for your great video. And I have a question, I drove 3 hours to buy a zeus yesterday and it was a killer deal. 22.2 software for $3500. And some people told me the zeus i bought might still has money owed on it.. So the zeus i bought has money owed? Will snapon tool truck repo the zeus i bought?.. Thanks!
@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you! The guy i bought the zeus from told me he will keep paying the zeus. Also Can i still buy the software subscription if the zeus is not paid off? Thank you!
On a real tech value its 23.2or3 trinton but lacks alot of bi di euro ways i have autel its nice bore scope super fast code detector❤ and teaches you to boro scope use 😴 autel doesn't 😢 pin out is excellent 😮😮😮 ❤ 😊 bless everyone 😀 👍 😉
Maybe you sure try some thing different like Autel Ultra, you will be surprice of what that tool can do way 10000 times more than snap on a lot more information and pits that snap on do not have dont be blinded by Snap on logo I have both and and my Autes eat the snap on I will do say there is a good source of info but not as good as they claim
The Zeus is an overpriced scanner that auto populates TSB's. I bought an XTOOL D9 pro that does way more. It was $1400. It doesn't matter what snap on scanner, the software is the same in every one. Smart track is a waste of money.
Just picked up the Triton D8 for half price a month ago, probably because this one released. I don’t regret it a bit, but If I couldn’t get it at half price I’d go with the Launch/Matco
Great presentation. I have two questions. Is the Triton D8 and/or D10 bidirectional (Maybe its assumed? Im VERY new with computer stuff and new cars.) Why do so many forums, non-affiliated, non-retail sites bash on Snapon diags? Particularly the guided component stuff. Maybe its the boomer mentality of job security. a computer telling them hints, probable causes, or maybe just competing with newer kids that can now start working on jobs that were once reserved to them? I personally LOVE this kind of thinking, that can make tinkering on one's own car easier, and more accessible, and less intimidating to some 18yo with his car (chances are an old beater but still OBD era). In the end, it keeps car culture alive, as well as train future master techs. I just saw now lots of people dont like the Triton. (Just to be clear, not accusing anyone of anything, just trying to be informed before I go one route or another with diag tools)
@@MrSubaru1387 Ok. Thanks for the answer! I have been checking out other guys too, MAC, but I will say I do like the guided stuff. I mean, I am really dumb with ECUs and all that lol. Ive only turned wrenches on carbureted cars and well airplanes (707s, DC10s but those are fairly easy since you HAVE to follow the checklists for any repair. Diags with those were fairly easy since they were engineered to have inspection criteria that were part of preflight postflight. Very different than cars, and customers...)
I know your a Snap On guy....Has any company like Autel or Launch sent you any of their products to test out. I definitely can't afford Snap On and personally think they are over priced for the DIYer..
I wounder if you can help me out , I just bought used zeus , it came with car charger cable only (12V from cig. ligher ) , I want to get replacement power supply but what voltage ? if you can check your charger voltage for me please mate (the output voltage written on sticker )
I could buy a lot of tools with the $$$ for that. Software based on engine definitions. SATA needs to stop making cheap tools and make hardware...when China can manufacture the chipsets. I worked in a manufacturing facility that would have to fly in Bosch engineers to work on manufacturing equipment. You couldn't get past the German. Well, I'm telling everyone, "Mr Subaru made me do it", because I hit the buy button on a haul of German tools. I won't use them if they were all chrome polished.
The red flag function is almost rarely ever available for the vehicles it’s super rare that it actually works for the vehicle you are working on
I have a triton d10 but you really should look into something like an autel ms906 pro. You can get it for around $1500 and it has SO much more functionality than a snap on scan tool. It’s definitely worth having around as it can get you out of a jam with some of the things it can do.
I've gone 2 years without an update on my edge, lost the ability to disengage parking brake service mode on subarus. So much functionality just disappeared. Why in the world would I update to a Zeus when for the same price I can get a scanner with full functionality with topology scanning with 2 years updates (reliable updates that are seamless)for 2500$ and a pico 4 channel scope with vertical and horizontal markers, 720deg built in overlays for in cylinder pressure testing and a tone of testing tricks up its sleeve with endless online training?
Which model is that? I'm looking for one. Thank you.
We just got “brake maintenance mode” on the 19.0 update
So I guess we’ll get transmission re-learn on version 24.0
I’m glad we are sponsored by snap on at my college 😌 we are absolutely spoiled by our Zeus tablets
What college?
Hi there a question pls. Is the guided component test requires a subscriptions fee just like the intelligent diagnostic? TIA. nice review btw
Thanks for doing this thoroughly. I’m a big fan.
I think after i sold my old modis, i will be going with a autel scanner or auto enginuity. I havent been that impressed with snap on's scan tools over the years, granted i haven't used anything outside of the old first gen modis and modis ultra.
After using autel for 2 years I DO NOT recommend anybody going with Autel for one reason only.. the speed. If autel could make their scan tools just a little bit faster i would give them a 5 star rating but as you know time is a huge factor in this field
@@carlosm7232 what would you suggest?
@@faststang85 i know you said u had a bad experience with snap-on but the Triton D8 has been working amazingly for me so far
@@carlosm7232 not necessarily bad i just thought they were over hyped and expensive. I don't work in the industry anymore either.
I have zeus and the scope section is so much better than triton hands down.
I am researching scanners and I feel like my best bet is a new launch torque link or topdon smart and a used snap-on Verus edge with latest 23 update. I’ll spend about 3600ish for both.
Is topology worth having? which scanners have topology? My XTool D9 has topology and I love it but it is hot garbage when it comes to I/M readiness monitors, most of the time it doesn't even have an option to show it or it's just flat out wrong! Evap says it's complete but then I hook up my boss's Modis and it isn't complete. I'm looking for a new scanner
Thank you for the great info.
I have an Auto MS919, and I paid the additional for the Motor information which is basically a website with some pretty sparse manuals. For instance, my own 2011 BMW 328i xDrive they only have the older wiring diagrams and not the ones that were updated later in the product lifecycle. They are identical to those in the Bentley manual. But around 2014 Bentley came out with an updated version that covered the last few years of the e9x series. On the guided component tests, they only give you generic instructions which I really don't need. I need to know which wire is which like in they Triton d10 demo at 16:25, so I know which wire(s) to connect to or if I have a floating ground. In the Bentley manuals (even the newer one) and the Motors guide it just shows the wire going to the ECM and a picture of a resistor and transistor for example on all three wires. So I don't know which one is the reference signal or the output signal or whatever. So these pictures of the connectors and wire colors are what I would love to have. Sorry for the long intro, but I do have a question. Does this functionality come with the tool? Or is this some additional subscription?
Guided component test will always be on the tool. Not intelligent tract.
Hey Mr Subaru can you do a video on Subaru torque bind??? I have a 2004 outback and a 1998 legacy gt limited both with torque bind, putting the fuse in the fwd solves the problem on both vehicles! So my research has led me to the transfer clutch pack.
Another thing look at the amount it cost for those upgrades the sure track is only good for 30 days when you get the scan but why would you pay for sure track when you have Mitchell or identifix or All data hello is all money with snap On Autel give you one years upgrades anda lot better diagnostic info than them
Could you suggest to me what scanner is best then for a 2010 Forester . I sure appreciate your videos as they have gotten me up to speed on Subaru...
What Im aiming for is one that will replace my Innova code reader as it dosnt clear out old history code data.
I will never buy a SnapOn scan tool again. I paid almost 3k for mine. It has less functionality than its competitors and SnapOn quit supporting it after only 5 years. I can get a brand new Autel for about 1300 bucks and it does more. Considering the Autel cost about as much as an update for the SnapOn tool, it doesn’t really matter if they ever quit supporting it because I don’t have to shell out several grand to get the latest version.
The shop i work at has a snap on and an autel, the autel is alot newer and is one of autels best models, the autel is an absolute piece of crap, almost never reads cars on its own, half the functions dont work properly and has a giant obd2 connector that makes the whole point of it being wireless moot, not to mention the wireless apmost never actually works and you have to olug it in with the wire anyway
Our brand new Snap On scanner the shop just bought won’t even to a god damn idle relearn on a 2003 Chevy Tahoe. The Autel has that function though. I also call BS on everything you said. 4 of our techs have Autel scanners and love them. The dongle for the Autel is tiny compared to the one that came with my Verus Pro and the wireless communication has been excellent. Your just mad cause you paid several grand more for a tool that does half as much so now you talk as much shit as you can about the tool you should have bought to try and justify the ass pounding you got from that Snap On guy.
@MrSubaru187 I’m in a toss up between the triton D10 and the Apollo D9 my dealer has both of sale next week and not sure what to get. I’m at an independent dealer and doing all kinds of cars
Do I have to update my snap on scanner every year. I’m wanting to use it for reading motor and transmission codes and live data. I know updates will let me access newer models and such. Can I get away with a update every 3-4 years I have the Soulus Edge
You don't have to ever update it. Can do so as you please or need.
I have 2013 subaru impreza 2.0 with a cvt i have to replace the valvebody on tomorrow are these the ones with the valvebody top? Or underneath?
Top.
@@MrSubaru1387 my man thank you love your videos 💪🏽
when is the full epic tour coming
Soon. 👍🏻
Thanks for your great video. And I have a question, I drove 3 hours to buy a zeus yesterday and it was a killer deal. 22.2 software for $3500. And some people told me the zeus i bought might still has money owed on it.. So the zeus i bought has money owed? Will snapon tool truck repo the zeus i bought?.. Thanks!
They can if they match the serial number and it has money owned on a credit contract. Selling mortgaged goods is like selling stolen property
@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you! The guy i bought the zeus from told me he will keep paying the zeus. Also Can i still buy the software subscription if the zeus is not paid off? Thank you!
as long as the guy keep paying the zeus, will i be out of trouble? thanks!
I wouldn’t. You go to buy a subscription, they’ll know the unit isn’t paid for/not in your name.
@@MrSubaru1387 So I can't update it until it is paid off?..
Will this work with the new GM Global B architecture?
Maybe you should do a scanner giveaway Robert lol jk because my broke ass need one haha
How would you rate any benefit of Zeus over the triton d10 outside of 2 and 4 channel scope?
What is the difference between apollo d9 and the 10 besides scope
do you ever lose fast track when the scanner is out of its life cycle or when you miss an update?
Yes
On a real tech value its 23.2or3 trinton but lacks alot of bi di euro ways i have autel its nice bore scope super fast code detector❤ and teaches you to boro scope use 😴 autel doesn't 😢 pin out is excellent 😮😮😮 ❤ 😊 bless everyone 😀 👍 😉
Can you program diesel injectors with those scan tools
I haven't personally, but I believe you can encode Duramax injectors to the pcm and similar.
Maybe you sure try some thing different like Autel Ultra, you will be surprice of what that tool can do way 10000 times more than snap on a lot more information and pits that snap on do not have dont be blinded by Snap on logo I have both and and my Autes eat the snap on I will do say there is a good source of info but not as good as they claim
The Zeus is an overpriced scanner that auto populates TSB's. I bought an XTOOL D9 pro that does way more. It was $1400. It doesn't matter what snap on scanner, the software is the same in every one. Smart track is a waste of money.
Why doesn't Snap-on add Topology!? 🤦♂️ 😅
Just picked up the Triton D8 for half price a month ago, probably because this one released. I don’t regret it a bit, but If I couldn’t get it at half price I’d go with the Launch/Matco
I also have the Maximus 3.0, and on the few Subaru products I service the Maximus seems to have more functions than the snap-on
Why.... D8 sucks
@@JamesValentineBaja1000 the D8 and the D10 are the same tool apart from processor speed and display size
Great presentation. I have two questions.
Is the Triton D8 and/or D10 bidirectional (Maybe its assumed? Im VERY new with computer stuff and new cars.)
Why do so many forums, non-affiliated, non-retail sites bash on Snapon diags? Particularly the guided component stuff. Maybe its the boomer mentality of job security. a computer telling them hints, probable causes, or maybe just competing with newer kids that can now start working on jobs that were once reserved to them? I personally LOVE this kind of thinking, that can make tinkering on one's own car easier, and more accessible, and less intimidating to some 18yo with his car (chances are an old beater but still OBD era). In the end, it keeps car culture alive, as well as train future master techs.
I just saw now lots of people dont like the Triton. (Just to be clear, not accusing anyone of anything, just trying to be informed before I go one route or another with diag tools)
Yes, bidirectional.
Who knows. People love to hate Snap-on everything.
@@MrSubaru1387 Ok. Thanks for the answer! I have been checking out other guys too, MAC, but I will say I do like the guided stuff. I mean, I am really dumb with ECUs and all that lol. Ive only turned wrenches on carbureted cars and well airplanes (707s, DC10s but those are fairly easy since you HAVE to follow the checklists for any repair. Diags with those were fairly easy since they were engineered to have inspection criteria that were part of preflight postflight. Very different than cars, and customers...)
I know your a Snap On guy....Has any company like Autel or Launch sent you any of their products to test out. I definitely can't afford Snap On and personally think they are over priced for the DIYer..
Nope. Lol They haven't.
I wounder if you can help me out , I just bought used zeus , it came with car charger cable only (12V from cig. ligher ) , I want to get replacement power supply but what voltage ? if you can check your charger voltage for me please mate (the output voltage written on sticker )
I could buy a lot of tools with the $$$ for that. Software based on engine definitions. SATA needs to stop making cheap tools and make hardware...when China can manufacture the chipsets. I worked in a manufacturing facility that would have to fly in Bosch engineers to work on manufacturing equipment. You couldn't get past the German. Well, I'm telling everyone, "Mr Subaru made me do it", because I hit the buy button on a haul of German tools. I won't use them if they were all chrome polished.
Does anyone work on GM?, Ford?, anyone ?
Techs- run away from snapon scanners !!! Please trust me
It looks like it's running Windows 7, not Windows 10.
The current ZEUS runs Windows 10 and there's a Windows 10 upgrade available on older models, like mine.
Ka ching$$$
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