Dupe Glitch - Minecraft Java 1.17

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2021
  • Java 1.17 is out and with it are some bugs/glitches you can take advantage of. This one is a duplication glitch that can be used even if you started a fresh world in Java 1.17. All you need is enough iron to make an anvil (or steal one from a village) and some junk items to fill up your inventory. Well, you also need whatever it is you are going to dupe. Add a few levels to the mix and you can do this super fast, super easy dupe glitch.
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  • @EagleEye621
    @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +172

    be sure to head over to The Duper Troop and thank him... and sub before you go :)

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock 3 роки тому +4

      The server I use with my friends uses 1.16.5 paper, do you know any dupes that are not patched out by paper?

    • @texugo_branco
      @texugo_branco 3 роки тому

      @@ARockyRock when a version is released expect dupes, since 1.16.5 is a old version all dupes were most likely patched, the other dupes require hacks to do.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      @@ARockyRock in his video, duper truper said it was still working in paper, but they update pretty fast so not sure if that is still true

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      @@ARockyRock also... turn off paper for just long enough to use the dupe :P

    • @epteon6024
      @epteon6024 3 роки тому +1

      Discovered by process, and stolen by duper trooper

  • @MarkusArkus5
    @MarkusArkus5 3 роки тому +439

    First thing to dupe, other damaged anvils

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +53

      that is why I had a stack in my shulker :)

    • @adithyar3715
      @adithyar3715 3 роки тому +5

      Or u could just dupe iron ingots and make anvils out of them

    • @Atyen7a
      @Atyen7a 3 роки тому +12

      @@adithyar3715 iron is not the problem with this glitch but the damage it takes forever for an anvil to beak so

    • @adithyar3715
      @adithyar3715 3 роки тому +3

      The only actual problem is xp but if you have an animal farm or kelp xp farm or enderman farm late game then the anvil taking time to break ain't a problem

    • @johnny8660
      @johnny8660 3 роки тому

      @@adithyar3715 then u need to brake them

  • @drshmuck339
    @drshmuck339 3 роки тому +21

    Even if im never gonna use any of the contraptions in some of your vids, like this one, they are still so interesting to watch

  • @jaythephoenix
    @jaythephoenix 3 роки тому +59

    It's be interesting if they worked this into an intended feature that always dropped, like, 2-3 iron ingots/raw iron when an anvil broke instead of a duped item.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +13

      interesting... I like that idea because in theory a broken anvil should be pieces of iron no longer in a usable (anvil) shape

    • @samgiyupjee
      @samgiyupjee 3 роки тому +1

      i think maybe they patched it>??? i tried it today and it didnt work, is that true?

    • @MovieClipsX2879
      @MovieClipsX2879 3 роки тому +1

      @@samgiyupjee waaaaaaaaaaaaaa . MOJANG FIXES EVERY GLITCH ONLY BEFORE I HAVE TRIED THEM .... FUCK !!!

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +1

      @@samgiyupjee modded servers (spigot/paper) have patched it

    • @NotEntirelyStupid
      @NotEntirelyStupid 2 роки тому

      @@EagleEye621 regular minecraft too😪 t wanna get material for a giant iron farm , use the glitch and just break a anvil

  • @S.U.Z.Gamer125
    @S.U.Z.Gamer125 3 роки тому +24

    Did you did it?
    Yes
    What is it cost?
    31 Iron

  • @yashwantsingh6703
    @yashwantsingh6703 3 роки тому +52

    Time for some pranks, me casually throwing the duped item in lava.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +7

      netherite for double prank... but with hopper under it so it goes away too... :)

    • @luxaceyt
      @luxaceyt 3 роки тому +2

      @@EagleEye621 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @nonamethenonameguy8246
      @nonamethenonameguy8246 2 роки тому

      Your pfp make your comment better

  • @johneubank8543
    @johneubank8543 3 роки тому +19

    Wow! That's amazing. I love your vids, and I'm glad you tell us about these while reminding us that usually, duping is wrong - but when we need to - it's nice to know we can.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      thanks :)

    • @johneubank8543
      @johneubank8543 2 роки тому

      @𝓵Nevil of course, we all know this. Look at what EagleEye said, too - and try to get the nuance of what we're saying. We're basically saying that "duping can get you in trouble on servers that ban it - don't do it there."
      You aren't even making a good case for duping - and I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you - I don't intend that. There is a very moral case for a lot of duping, such as "duping saves me from physical pain, from getting carpal tunnel syndrome and so tendonitis and so on" - and I'm not joking - duping, done to dupe rails, sand - or tnt duping to make perimiters and so on - is a VERY moral thing in terms of saving people from the physical ailments brought on by too much bloody clicking, by sitting in a chair so long, etc.
      We need to start a moral crusade here - DUPING SAVES! I'm being partially silly, but also serious. ;) Good luck to you!
      (but yeah, don't get banned from a server that doesn't allow any duping)

    • @xantonis007gr9
      @xantonis007gr9 2 роки тому

      Is this working on 1.16.5?

    • @CheeseWater.
      @CheeseWater. 2 роки тому +1

      @@xantonis007gr9 nope got patched in 1.17.1

  • @pirate7771
    @pirate7771 2 роки тому +19

    This is pretty powerful, thanks for the dupe

  • @cimos5133
    @cimos5133 3 роки тому +2

    Doooope! Yes! Love your vids, so helpful

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +1

      thanks for the comment :) and early support :)

  • @xadielplasencia3674
    @xadielplasencia3674 3 роки тому +57

    It seems like someone is going to have múltiple dragón eggs

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +4

      I have a separate dupe video for those... much faster than this :)

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +1

      did I already respond to this... but I have other videos that are faster for just dragon eggs

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 3 роки тому +2

      @@EagleEye621 You did just respond XD... But worry not, I'll make sure to watch that video also

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      @@xadielplasencia3674 lol... crossed wires between the new comment 'bell' and my creater 'non-responded to comments' and youtube didn't figure out it was already covered in the other... lol

    • @EaterOfGeese
      @EaterOfGeese 3 роки тому

      Grian is typing...

  • @brandonzhang760
    @brandonzhang760 3 роки тому +169

    plot twist the real reason this works is because of the name

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +22

      POG... make sure everyone knows that

    • @Ion_Cannon42
      @Ion_Cannon42 3 роки тому +4

      I thought it went without saying ;)

    • @bird5119
      @bird5119 2 роки тому

      the chance of someone using the exact name is greater than 0

    • @markzuckerberg8649
      @markzuckerberg8649 2 роки тому

      @@EagleEye621 will this work in 1.18.1?

  • @Shiro13
    @Shiro13 2 роки тому +1

    Tysm man! Helped a lot :D

  • @sseal6088
    @sseal6088 3 роки тому +9

    You could do this a lot if you duped shulkers of Xp bottles and anvils!

  • @CombatSausage
    @CombatSausage 2 роки тому

    Hey, does it work with anything? or just shuckers?

  • @Tosy13
    @Tosy13 2 роки тому

    does it work on bedrock? and does it necessarily need to be 1.17 or its ok to have 1.17.1

  • @jasonklusty7937
    @jasonklusty7937 2 роки тому +1

    Could you possibly find a dupe that works on phoenix anarchy server? I know there are working ones but cant find them. It is in 1.17.1

  • @diablevache8782
    @diablevache8782 2 роки тому

    does it have to be a shulker box full of items? or can it be any item

  • @adithyar3715
    @adithyar3715 3 роки тому +1

    Damn this is so good thanks bro

  • @ragaboi4103
    @ragaboi4103 2 роки тому

    does it work with very damaged anvils? because i tried a very damaged anvil and it broke but it didnt duplicate?

  • @SnG112
    @SnG112 2 роки тому

    does it work with out the shulkers just a sword or smt?

  • @kurtmeldizon3818
    @kurtmeldizon3818 2 роки тому

    uhm what if i dont have shulker is it okay if just item?or just shulker glitch?

  • @j.r.7339
    @j.r.7339 3 роки тому +6

    I knew someone like you would find something like this at *some* Point.

  • @skyderzgg2825
    @skyderzgg2825 2 роки тому

    does this work for other items other than shulker boxes?

  • @vokodelax7663
    @vokodelax7663 3 роки тому

    Will this work with the new Bundle bags?

  • @yeperdoodles1276
    @yeperdoodles1276 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks you i now have thousands of beacons, dragon eggs, and dragon heads

  • @cypphi
    @cypphi 3 роки тому +60

    ah yes, duping time

  • @Evan-Zielinski
    @Evan-Zielinski 2 роки тому +1

    Was this patched? It doesn’t work for me anymore

  • @fortnitegrind5673
    @fortnitegrind5673 2 роки тому

    can u do it with normal items not shulkers?

  • @Klaus-ek6xh
    @Klaus-ek6xh 2 роки тому

    dude i renamed this in a damaged anvil 20 times and it didnt break is it patched now

  • @axqwdupesthegen
    @axqwdupesthegen 2 роки тому +1

    Does this still work in 1.17.1?

  • @jaye3
    @jaye3 3 роки тому +18

    I accidentally duped a ton of gold nuggets by using Masa's ItemScroller mod for auto crafting.
    I threw a couple double chests of nuggets on the ground to craft them into ingots, which usually only takes a few seconds. But after updating to 1.17 I could just keep crafting forever, while watching my framerate go down 😂

  • @Captaingoosemon
    @Captaingoosemon 3 роки тому

    Dangit I did it but it didn’t work does it need to be in the over world?

  • @dominicfranceschina6441
    @dominicfranceschina6441 2 роки тому

    Would u be able to do this on a server tho??

  • @CibuYT
    @CibuYT 3 роки тому +1

    wow, really cool and easy !
    i won't dupe it but it can help in anarchy servers and such

  • @coolstylebro2814
    @coolstylebro2814 2 роки тому +9

    Pretty cool dupe glitch, however it's kind of expensive.

  • @dragonwithnobred194
    @dragonwithnobred194 Рік тому

    Yooo thanks soo much it worked im subbing to u

  • @suprotimnandy
    @suprotimnandy 3 роки тому +2

    You uploaded during midnight on India btw I am gonna try this

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +1

      good morning... or afternoon/evening :P ... glad you like it :)

  • @sigmaboy447
    @sigmaboy447 2 роки тому

    do you think it will work in 1.18 snapshot?

  • @nope5720
    @nope5720 3 роки тому

    Finally shulker dupe glitch that dupes the actual shulker box

  • @AceOnFlame
    @AceOnFlame 2 роки тому

    Thx but does this also works in java?

  • @fiery9763
    @fiery9763 3 роки тому

    does it work on multiplayer? cuz i can't seem to make it work on multiplayer

  • @host__amt1025
    @host__amt1025 3 роки тому

    If I don't have shulker boxes can I use 64 diamonds or blocks

  • @MortizBS64
    @MortizBS64 2 роки тому +1

    Can I do this for 1 item cuz I don't have shulker boxes:(

  • @vihaankumar3139
    @vihaankumar3139 3 роки тому

    will i get banned for doing this on my multiplayer world or its just a glitch that minecraft has

  • @El_Presidente_5337
    @El_Presidente_5337 2 роки тому +1

    Is it intentional that your shortened name is EE621?

  • @harrydean8735
    @harrydean8735 2 роки тому +1

    I like how it's very late game. Like if you killed the ender dragon, the game is basically yours to fuck about so you can just dupe stuff to build and have fun

  • @bioblade5044
    @bioblade5044 3 роки тому

    does it work with any item not just shuckers

  • @2009XboxLiveKid
    @2009XboxLiveKid 2 роки тому

    Does this still work in the recent snapshots???

  • @LegendaryGoated
    @LegendaryGoated 2 роки тому +2

    only 1.17.1?

  • @kukieplayzyt81
    @kukieplayzyt81 2 роки тому

    Will this also work without shulker box?

  • @esen677
    @esen677 2 роки тому

    What version or snapshot did you do this dupe in?

  • @ethan345
    @ethan345 2 роки тому +1

    does it still work a month later?

  • @cheemsdoggy1202
    @cheemsdoggy1202 2 роки тому

    does it matter if the server is a snapshot?

  • @williamross7951
    @williamross7951 2 роки тому

    Can I dupe by renaming a single item?

  • @sallylanger3032
    @sallylanger3032 2 роки тому

    this didnt work for me? I play on a server would that interfere?

  • @anand_bhasme
    @anand_bhasme 3 роки тому +49

    Yeah. I think mojang added a function to put the item (that was in anvil) straight into inventory. Is it that causing it dupe?

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +9

      not 100% sure why it works... but it does :)

    • @kazboven9744
      @kazboven9744 3 роки тому

      Its probably cause there is two items in the anvils and it does not fit in inv so minecraft prob thinks there are teo items in the anvil so they both drop

    • @kinga1925
      @kinga1925 3 роки тому +1

      @@EagleEye621 hey did you turn the FPS slider from vsync to unlimited?

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +1

      @@kinga1925 i only saw that last comment after shooting this video

    • @kinga1925
      @kinga1925 3 роки тому +1

      @@EagleEye621 oh its fine but have you tried it out though how much fps do you have i believe if you set your settings to fast and generally you will get more than 200 to 300 fps so your game will run smoothly:)

  • @mtar7276
    @mtar7276 3 роки тому +4

    as Usual, EagleEye with the great vid. Thanks man! now we need a afk EXP farm that works in 1.17 Java! :)

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +4

      I have a few thoughts I am working on :)

    • @SensiblyPsychotic
      @SensiblyPsychotic 2 роки тому

      I mean, you can get a fabric mod that auto recasts your fishing rod whenever it catches something. Then just afk with a mending fishing rod. Lure 3 makes the this XP farm more efficient.

    • @maxpeck1962
      @maxpeck1962 2 роки тому

      Just build an afk gold/xp farm. You will get more xp than you will ever know what to do with.

  • @zenitsu8412
    @zenitsu8412 2 роки тому +2

    Does it work in bedrock?

  • @NikunjXDDD
    @NikunjXDDD 2 роки тому

    Will This Work In Spigot Multiplayer Server?

  • @CharleyOlive
    @CharleyOlive 2 роки тому +3

    It doesn’t work anymore-
    Was this fixed in the 1.17.1 update?

    • @DaMadShit
      @DaMadShit 2 роки тому +1

      This is pached in 1.17.1

  • @periphane2193
    @periphane2193 2 роки тому +3

    Make sure you are in 1.17, 1.17.1 fixed this. But I just looked this up because there's no good way to farm dark oak wood, I love it though!

    • @SaturninePlaces
      @SaturninePlaces 2 роки тому

      There are quite a few good dark oak wood farms, place saplings, dispenser bonemeals the tree, TNT duper blows it up. Pretty simple stuff and you just AFK farm the wood.

    • @periphane2193
      @periphane2193 2 роки тому

      Yes, but the tnt could damage you and all tree farms only work with birch and oak mainly.

    • @thederpygirl8712
      @thederpygirl8712 2 роки тому +1

      Dear Mojang, or Creators of Minecraft 1.17.1
      Please stop removing glitches WE WANT! Minecraft is a sandbox game, not a game that you choose what glitches are not wanted, but we want them.
      Sincerely, StickyChannel92

  • @BeethovenHD
    @BeethovenHD 2 роки тому +1

    the first guy playing MC with Intel(R) HD Graphics. in 2021. respect.
    edited: even with a Laptop xD - DOSN'T MATTER

  • @SturgeonReal
    @SturgeonReal 2 роки тому

    do you need a shulker?

  • @kikiplays8601
    @kikiplays8601 3 роки тому

    Will this work with ender chest?

  • @CackleGuy1
    @CackleGuy1 3 роки тому

    Will a very damaged anvil work

  • @dvaness322
    @dvaness322 3 роки тому +2

    Does this work on any previous minecraft versions such as 1.16.5?

  • @satgurs
    @satgurs 2 роки тому

    you should also preferably dupe xp potions if you have any

  • @svikramm4228
    @svikramm4228 3 роки тому

    will it work in vanilla 1.17 multiplayer?

  • @user-bh9su5yp6p
    @user-bh9su5yp6p 2 роки тому

    Is it only works with shulkers?

  • @shadowstunter3687
    @shadowstunter3687 2 роки тому

    Can this be done in faction servers?

  • @rok4750
    @rok4750 2 роки тому

    “Not sorry” very funny dude

  • @ligitgaming6972
    @ligitgaming6972 2 роки тому

    Does it have to be a shulker box or can it be a chest or a barrel?

    • @himynameisfin
      @himynameisfin 2 роки тому

      I haven't tried it, but no. The moment you break them all your items will pop out remember.

  • @ethan571
    @ethan571 2 роки тому

    Do you need shulkers?

  • @loneguestl1l
    @loneguestl1l 3 роки тому +1

    Nice. Another great vid.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      thanks :)

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      thanks :)

    • @loneguestl1l
      @loneguestl1l 3 роки тому +1

      @@EagleEye621 do you not do any let's plays and upload them? I know you mostly do these tutorials for the channel but I'd love to see play as well. I know it'd tough to find stuff to do at times but I wanna see you make it and play with some of the bigger minecrafters

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      @@loneguestl1l i need to learn how to edit before I do that... and magically add more hours to my day :P

    • @loneguestl1l
      @loneguestl1l 3 роки тому +1

      @@EagleEye621 ey brotha I'm trying to help by watching all adds on the vids and never clicking skip. Get that bread and fame

  • @ragedarkprince3363
    @ragedarkprince3363 3 роки тому +3

    Just anvil more anvils if u need

  • @TheTakenName
    @TheTakenName 2 роки тому

    Quick question is this thing now patched?

  • @apples5899
    @apples5899 3 роки тому +5

    I duped my pair of god armor incase I lose it. would that be considered cheating? I probably wont use it even if I lose a piece by accident

    • @cypphi
      @cypphi 3 роки тому +5

      that'd be cheating, but who cares about some duping. If you're doing it on a singleplayer world or smp I'd say: don't do it too much.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +5

      well... technically it is an 'unintentional in-game-feature'... so... depends on what you... yes, duping is cheating.... lol... but... this is a sandbox game that is meant to be fun, so if you have more fun with a tiny bit of cheating (especially if it is only for something there is no other legitimate way to get)... who cares... have fun :)

    • @apples5899
      @apples5899 3 роки тому +1

      @@EagleEye621 I dont use sand dupers for the same reason, thanks for the insight

  • @NotJustCole
    @NotJustCole 2 роки тому

    for some reason the dup dosent work on shulker boxes

  • @rileytubegaming9065
    @rileytubegaming9065 2 роки тому +1

    see the problem is im in a 100 x 100 border world and the strong hold isnt in the chunk XD

  • @sandipdas6298
    @sandipdas6298 2 роки тому

    Do this still work ? Becuz its 3 months ! And mojang could just have fixed it

  • @skethp8360
    @skethp8360 3 роки тому

    Does this work without shulker boxes

  • @omkarpradhan921
    @omkarpradhan921 2 роки тому

    Does this really work without glitch without mod?

  • @generalkenobi8624
    @generalkenobi8624 3 роки тому +1

    Does this work on a server?

  • @miner7273
    @miner7273 Рік тому

    Does this work with items instead?

  • @luigibifulco7562
    @luigibifulco7562 3 роки тому

    This works on evey tipe of item too?

  • @logie_bogie12-49
    @logie_bogie12-49 2 роки тому

    does it work with ender chests?

  • @junglejarno
    @junglejarno 2 роки тому

    does it still work in 1.17.1? bc it didn't work

  • @fildude.v4l96
    @fildude.v4l96 2 роки тому

    Wait how do u put so much enchantment on your armor i can only put prot 4 or fire prot 4 or blast prot 4

  • @shiruotakuno28
    @shiruotakuno28 2 роки тому

    Does this only work on Shulker Boxes?

  • @slinart3800
    @slinart3800 2 роки тому +19

    I tried this on 1.17.1 didn't work but still is great

  • @hibernator8399
    @hibernator8399 2 роки тому +14

    After trying multiple times, safe to say this method no longer works in the latest 1.17.1 update

  • @unbleed1337
    @unbleed1337 3 роки тому

    nice vid! you deserve a like :D

  • @sancturn639
    @sancturn639 2 роки тому

    Ok if you want the anvil to break as soon as you rename the shulker, drop the anvil off a mountain. No seriously just fine the right height and drop the anvil.

  • @thing4362
    @thing4362 Рік тому

    You think I could justify this if it’s only used for perfect armour and it isn’t upgraded to netherite first?

  • @Toasted__Toast
    @Toasted__Toast 3 роки тому

    Does this work on bedrock too?

  • @novastorm95x
    @novastorm95x 2 роки тому +1

    Could you be kind enough to tell if this works on 1.17.1 please!

  • @gavinwang1531
    @gavinwang1531 3 роки тому

    i dont think you can rename with a damaged anvil

  • @markoconnor7286
    @markoconnor7286 3 роки тому

    do you need the shulker

  • @woeful2942
    @woeful2942 2 роки тому

    I tried duping in bedrock on my Xbox and well it destroyed the anvil and the shulker box disappeared

  • @lonelycube8761
    @lonelycube8761 3 роки тому +6

    Now my friends who had half iron armour will have full set of netherite XD. Nice explaination, as always.

    • @EagleEye621
      @EagleEye621  3 роки тому +2

      lol

    • @oodnoop9218
      @oodnoop9218 2 роки тому

      Does it work on server

    • @lonelycube8761
      @lonelycube8761 2 роки тому

      @@oodnoop9218 yes. But only if it's running vanilla 1.17(not 1.17.1)