The song learning skill the internet can’t teach you

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  • Опубліковано 1 лют 2024
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    Did you know that the most powerful drumming skill YOU can possess is something that the internet won’t & can’t teach you?
    If you’ve had any trouble with learning songs… feeling like you can’t figure out what the drummer on the record is playing… you can’t make any sense of the roadmap of the song… you’re constantly messing up the kick pattern or that fill going into the chorus…
    Then today’s lesson just might be for you!
    Without mastering this incredibly powerful song-learning skill that you yourself have to do, you’ll struggle to relax & make music on the drums, playing songs well and having a fun time doing it.
    But don’t worry, because I’ll show you exactly what this skill is and how to begin gaining it today. YOU CAN DO THIS!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 24

  • @pedro.claudino
    @pedro.claudino 3 місяці тому +5

    It's not just about how to learn a song, it's about knowing how to listen to songs. Feel and realize where and why things are happening in a song does make the difference between musicians and "players". Great content in this video. Thanks.

  • @tektro6037
    @tektro6037 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank a lot Stephen! I am playing for nearly 3 years, and I realized that was my biggest issue- I am training patterns and rudiments, but I still strugle to learn music effectively without teachers. I really appreciate your work, thx!

    • @honkytonkinson9787
      @honkytonkinson9787 3 місяці тому +1

      Just play along with your favorite music, push yourself, and get used to sounding awful at first. Pick some songs you like that are way too hard and just struggle through them. Eventually your muscle memory will start to get it and then your mind can begin to fine tune
      The practice will help with technique but not as fun. Have fun getting better at drums! I have some songs I’ve been trying to play for 20 years; they sound better now but still struggling: Birdland by Maynard Ferguson, A Quick One While He’s Away by The Who, anything Buddy Rich did

  • @marsjokes
    @marsjokes 3 місяці тому +7

    I wish you could talk to my music director about this. Like, almost after every other 4th phrase, he wants me to get louder or play a fill, or chop. Like, no! That's noise. Let's groove, and allow me to find the pocket.

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen 3 місяці тому +1

      It might be a risk, but have you ever just told him, “Trust me”?
      I don’t know anything about your music director, but I know guitarists aren’t notorious for that. They’re usually trying to tell the bassist, the drummer, keyboardist, everybody what to play. Sometimes, you just have to say, “Trust me. Let’s just play.”
      James Jameson the most famous Motown bassist was in the studio once and the producer handed him sheet music. He looks at it and said, “Do you really want me to play THIS?” The producer stopped and said, “No. Just do your thing.” Jameson played on nearly all the Motown hits in the 60’s and 70’s. Point is, they had to trust him and let him be free to feel a groove. And they were successful for it. Ask him to just trust you.

    • @marsjokes
      @marsjokes 3 місяці тому

      @totallyfrozen thanks man. I'll definitely try this out.
      And I really enjoyed the story about James Jameson. Quite inspiring.

  • @kiwi129
    @kiwi129 3 місяці тому +1

    I do both of these things - I usually seek out sheet music for reference (mainly because some of the finer details get buried among rock songs), but I ALSO listen to the song I'm trying to learn A LOT. I don't think referencing sheet music should be considered a "shortcut", really.

  • @lsdunham226
    @lsdunham226 3 місяці тому

    This. This right here. I've been worrying so much about playing the "right" notes that I'm completely missing the rest of the song. Thank you for this lesson!

  • @user-te6il8vy7m
    @user-te6il8vy7m 3 місяці тому +1

    Have always listened to music. Since taking up drumming I am now learning to LISTEN to music. Who knew? 😂

  • @normangannon3827
    @normangannon3827 3 місяці тому

    Just getting started! thanks for your guidance

  • @threemiceinajacket
    @threemiceinajacket 3 місяці тому

    you are so underrated, been watching you for years now!

  • @mikefloyd5359
    @mikefloyd5359 3 місяці тому

    I have always enjoyed the drum parts of music. Since I started learning to play 10 months ago, I hear so much more in almost every song I listen to. I certainly hear the drum parts more clearly, if not yet with the ear to easily reproduce them. I think that will greatly improve with more playing experience as I recognize more individual parts of the drumming as I listen.

  • @Spagz
    @Spagz 3 місяці тому

    Great stuff! I always struggle trying to hear that stuff too. Especially when the engineer decides to keep the drums lower. I've tried to listen to what Mitch Miller was playing in some Hendrix stuff and it's hard to tell the little stuff. As an example.

  • @rayboreham2648
    @rayboreham2648 3 місяці тому

    This is great advice and I do my best to learn songs, and specifically drum parts, by ear, but sometimes, due to the mix or some other factor, no matter how many times I listen, I just can't make out the drum part, so, in situations like that, I try to track down the notation to get through those parts. But, that's really a last resort and I try my best to work things out by ear, which should be the preferred method, in my opinion.

  • @oreoandoz7723
    @oreoandoz7723 3 місяці тому

    ROFL I've had to practice active listening and make my own charts for so many Canadian songs - because there's a lot of great Canadian music there are no tabs available for. I will say that an AI track separator is a fantastic tool though! Sometimes the mix is muddy or the older music, it's hard to hear the drum track well with everything else going on. I run it through MOISES, for e.g., and then I can listen to the separated drum track, as it was played by the original drummer.

  • @johnrobinson8323
    @johnrobinson8323 3 місяці тому

    Put your ears on guys! 😅 🥁❤️

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson9787 3 місяці тому +2

    I took a break from playing out for a couple of years and back into it for the last year; had Covid during the break with bad brain fog.
    I’m finding it very difficult these days to remember how songs go, so taking longer to get them down. Not sure if it’s a memory problem, getting older, or both; I want to blame the lingering brain fog. Makes it less fun to play out when I struggle to remember how the songs go after rigorous listening and practicing!
    😅 why is your recollection of Something a sad trombone? Lol

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen 3 місяці тому +2

      I listened to a drum teacher (Matt Cleary-Smith, Infinity Drumming) who experienced a similar thing and said that it’s not age-related. It’s that your mind is out of practice learning those things, out of practice of thinking that way. He said, if you get back into it, your brain will get back into the habit and you’ll begin to pick it up again.

    • @honkytonkinson9787
      @honkytonkinson9787 3 місяці тому

      @@totallyfrozen I hope that’s right! It is getting easier, but it used to be effortless to learn new songs; now I feel like a moronic drummer who’s spaced out mid song. Having a chart helps a lot!
      Makes me feel like a fraud of a musician sometimes!

  • @billko867
    @billko867 3 місяці тому

    Follow this advice ONLY if you want to TRANSCEND being a mere musician and become an ARTIST.

  • @jamied1969
    @jamied1969 3 місяці тому

    It's basically about listening. End of.

  • @user-gd8yr9mi5t
    @user-gd8yr9mi5t 3 місяці тому

    Um where exactly do you think this is if not online?

  • @luigisavoia2401
    @luigisavoia2401 3 місяці тому

    Yup. Give a man a fish he has food for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he'll have food for a lifetime.

  • @bossko4145
    @bossko4145 3 місяці тому

    But you are the internet how do you think I’m watching this goofy boy