Just in case you think otherwise, Pachycephalosaurus did in fact headbutt, several studies examined the skulls and found tissue damage that resembled those of modern aminals that headbutt.
@SmashBrosInitiativethat reminds me of the braindead "Thylacosmilus is a scavenger" argument, ignoring that its sabers evolved for a reason. Pachycephalosaurus domes were likely more often used for bashing into beehives and feeding on the bees, but could also be used to fight
@@Lamacetus I'd be more inclined to believe that Pachycephalosaurus did absolutely nothing with its skull when it wasn't using it to knock heads. Saying a Pachy would use its skull for "beehives" would be like saying Thylacosmilus was more likely to use its fangs to "dig up termites". If you develop a skull like that to butt heads, you'll use it to butt heads but otherwise I doubt you'll see an animal like that use their anatomy in a more "creative" fashion.
One of my favorite scenes in season 2 personally, and I loved the comeback of the old male and how the younger one got the wind knocked clean out of him. You can see all kinds of subtle details how each views the situation differently. The young male constantly glances around at the females, stops paying attention, and even falters a little in some of his movements. The old male however, is fully focused and 100% dialed in. Fantastic scene
So well put. The younger male just did not have the reflexes, man. Hesitated at every critical moment, charged too slow, dodged too slow. Fumble after fumble. He didn’t stand a chance.
Gives a good explanation for why those horns exist. I equate it also to kangaroos. They don't just kick but also grapple each other with their claws in a fight.
I love how engrossed in the fighting the other herdmates are. They're like spectators at a boxing match, cheering as the contestants beat the crud out of each other.
This is why I always argue humans are still animals. We’re highly intelligent with evolved morals, but much of our behavior is still in line with animals.
@@GojiraFan25 Humans are objectively animals. It is fact, and anyone that denies it is delusional and has a superiority complex, because they don't like being compared to other animals, be because it takes away from our supposive "uniqueness."
Oh I’m aware of that! That’s what made JP great! I’m talking Jurassic WORLD. dominion released like what a year ago and they didn’t come CLOSE to this. @@YuriJairusRuales1313
That's the point, they're meant to look like real animals. Dinosaurs WERE real, but what I meant was, they're meant to look like they exist in the present.
My dinosaur faze is slowly creeping back into me. A feeling that left me when i was 7. Im 14 now. Pachyceplosarous was one of my favorite dinosaurs. My obsession may not be as strong, but its good nostalgia
Animals seem to get deeper voices the bigger they get. Listen to a cassowary, and realise that by non-avian dinosaur standards, it’s kinda tiny. Let that sink in for a while. Really marinate in it.
I really enjoyed the pachycephalosaurus fighting. It was pretty awesome. They were both going at it at first I thought the young male was dead or he was coughing up blood know he was hurt pretty bad, but he got the hell out of here
the dreadnothus were in a desert, the pachys seem to be in a less hostile place, at some point maybe they took a few moments to eat something and drink
Glad this season tried to introduce this dinosaur. We truly needed a documentary with good CGI and experts to potray these extinct bipedal herbivore animals quite well. Also this one at 2:55 sounded like the pachycephalosaurus from the Jurassic Park franchise.
The older male getting back up after the younger one thinks he’s won is like Bob Barker choking Adam Sandler after the latter says “The price is WRONG, bitch!”.
I was like that young Pachycephalosaurs, only I was never put in my place. I never needed to be put in my place because I stopped just before I crossed the line. I also was born in a strong family and knew how to pin strengths against my opponents. It helped that my mom was a respected member of the school district too. Never really got physical but used strategy to win. I have since retired from that life and now look for ways to help out in bigger avenues. I have experience doing so, started with my college senate service. It will be a joy to become a great leader and help out with society and the environment.
That youngster is not a good spot, he limps off with broken ribs, banished from the coalition & now has find food ok his own & contend with juvenile Tyrannosaurus’ by himself.
@@tonybusch8771 I actually don’t think he does. To my knowledge he still stands by the scavenger T. rex hypothesis. Or at the very least he hasn’t renounced it.
Yeah and? No rock on Earth will be able to fossilise behaviour so who said they didn’t round up in giant numbers to watch males fight? Any either way these aren’t ungulates, these are pachycephalosaurs. Even though their mating life shows clear convergences they’re obviously not going to be the same.
@@TarbosaurusBaatar I just think that animals which are watching the fights and be interested in the outcome have more intelligence then the animals who don't.
The dominant male must have been the young one's father. This was the young one's time to either assert himself as the new alpha or be exiled to establish his own herd.
I'm pretty sure it happens in Bison herds. The male calfs grow up and think they can fight the big male, then they get kicked out and they leave to join another herd. Same thing happens with Lion prides.
@@jacobcox4565 A lot of social animals do it. Young males thing they’re all that, and can do whatever they want. The big male (who’s usually their father) is quick to correct them on that, and drive them out.
I read something online that some evidence suggests Pachycephalosaurus may have also kicked like modern kangaroos. They claim their tails would be able to balance them and allow them to kick like modern kangaroos. If that's the case then that might mean they also hopped like kangaroos. If that's true then that might mean they could headbutt even harder than we thought.
They are far too heavy to be able to do that. Tail whipping at most but their tail would be far too weak to hold their body weight long enough to kick.
@@jacobcox4565 Hell Creek was subtropical swamp forest. Sagebrush didn't even evolve until the later Cenozoic. No drought could possibly have made Hell Creek look ANYTHING like this. It's as accurate as putting a Giraffe in a South American rainforest eating Cecropia. Then again, PP is a speculative cartoon, not a documentary.
@@nonope7359 Hell Creek spanned 3 states, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. That's a lot of land, and the formation spanned millions of years. You're telling me a drought never would've happened even once? Also, Prehistoric Planet is not a "speculative cartoon." The show has speculative elements like every other dinosaur documentary. The show also did its research and showed it in short post-episode videos. The appearance of sagebrush also can't be helped. The show films real locations for backgrounds and environments.
@@jacobcox4565 Can you tell me where the sagebrush in Hell Creek was located during the Mesozoic? Drought doesn't convert Mesozoic subtropical forest into coldweather Cenozoic scrub. You're right, calling PP "speculative" is being generous. The correct term would be antiscientific disinformation.
@@nonope7359Don’t you have anything better to do than yell into the void about whether or not a plant that no one other than you is paying attention to is in the right time period?
Am I the only one who thinks that the Pachycephalosaurs in PP did look way too skinny? Usually I don't have this problem at all with the PP designs, but in this case I would have imagined the Pachys to be very bulky, especially in their necks due to their assumed life style.
How the grunts and snarls translate.. Pachy 1: “You bonehead” Pachy 2: “No! You’re a bonehead” Pachy 1: “Take that” Pachy 2: “What-a-tryin to do…tickle me. Take that”!
I know it is fictional, but since the alpha male was down first, how come that was not considered a defeat? Sine many animals consider a lose when they are down?
It was a fake out. The younger one celebrated his victory prematurely, which allowed the older male to catch his breath and take down the younger male.
Disappointing performance by the alpha male at the end he was down he lost fair and square but couldn’t let his ego be bruised like that and took a cheap shot at the youngster while his back was turned I expected better
@@jacobcox4565No, the older one was fully knocked down and the fight was over at that point. The younger one proved his strength in the fight after the older one collapsed. Anyone can get beaten up hard if they’re surprised, imagine if the fight started with the younger male straight up bodying the older one by doing an ambush. Not really fair, is it?
@@weallstilldie The younger one clearly didn't body the older one if he was able to get up seconds after being knocked down. The fight wasn't over until one left the herd. Besides, why are we arguing about what's fair in this fight between animals? Animals don't play fair. Animals don't have honor. It's not like there's a referee that's going to blow his whistle and wave a red card in front of the old Pachycephalosaurus for breaking the rules.
The current consensus is that they are immature forms; what used to be Stygimoloch may be a different species of Pachycephalosaurus though, but still Pachycephalosaurus
It's physically impossible for them to be juveniles of Pachycephalosaurus. The horns are too long, they would have to lose horn size as they age and no other horned animals in history do that.
@@The_PokeSaurus physically impossible and logically unlikely are two different things dude. Also don't forget that while the horns get smaller the dome gets bigger. And don't you think it's a bit suspicious that every flat-headed pachycephalosaurid we found so far was a juvenile that happened to coexist with larger, dome-headed but otherwise very similar adult forms?
While at the time true grasses were not as widespread as they are today, a number of grass-like plants very much were, especially in more humid areas (like we see in the Freshwater episode). The scene depicts a formerly humid area, so it fits
It's related to swamps because they said that the swamp is normally wet, but they're currently in a drought. Think of places like the okavango delta where it has rainy seasons and dry seasons.
The series is great but they really screwed up ornithischian dinosaurs. I love that they added lips on saurichians, but these ornithischians need cheeks not lips. Even birds have cheeks at the inner edge if their mandible. Ornithischian chewed their greens, cheeks are required for this.
They didn't chew their greens though. Unless you don't mean chew in the same way mammals do. Ornithischian dinosaurs, like all archosaurs, used their specialized teeth to rip through plants which they then swallowed whole. They also would have swallowed small stones called gastroliths in order to help grind their food.
@@kade-qt1zu you're wrong. Gastroliths have been found in very few dinosaurs. Ornithischian beaks ripped through plants, while their teeth either shredded or crushed the vegetation. Ornithischians had extremely complex teeth so it varied from species to species but they all used beaks to Rip vegetation from stems. The tooth battery on ornithopods were essentially advanced molars, like elephant and mammoth molars but far more advanced. Cheeks were essential for this type of chewing. I am disappointed that they missed this in the animation, it's very amateur. These dinosaurs LITERALLY had cheek bones on their upper mandible under the eyes 🤦
@@kade-qt1zu no worries. I'm just surprised a series that spent so much money in realism missed this. We actually have a fossilized cheeks in an ankylosaurid. The bastards had osteodorms on their cheek!
@@trvth1s Ornithischian cheeks weren't nearly as extensive as you might think. They weren't completely cheekless to be fair, but it wouldn't have been full up-to-the beak mammal-like coverage like in 90s to early 2000s paleoart, not even in the ankylosaur with the cheek osteoderms. They don't actually need soft tissue that extensive to chew their food effectively, nor did they really have the musculature to support it.
What about the segment where the Triceratops herd ate clay to help digest poisonous plants, or the segment about the Olorotitans raising their young, the Barsboldia migrating, the Deinocheirus scratching an itch, the Tuarangisaurus giving birth, the Ornithomimus stealing sticks from nests to build its own, the Atrociraptor using smoke to get rid of parasites, the Beelzebufo finding a suitable puddle of water, the Carnotaurus dance, the sneaky male Barbaridactylus. They're not all the same. Those other segments about hunting and fighting for dominance are there because animals do that a lot, and Dinosaurs are animals.
One thing Prehistoric Planet still got wrong is how other members of the herd usually stop to look at the fight. If you look at real animals, you will see that other members don't usually take a close inspection like this whenever sparring occurs. Being herbivores means they have to constantly eat, thus something that is not directly involved with themselves such as fights among other individuals doesn't warrant any reason for them to stop foraging. Even if they are to pay attention to a fight, they don't really need to turn their face toward it since their eyes are on the sides of their head, granting them a vision of the fight even when their face is pointing elsewhere. So rather than everyone coming together to see the spectacle as shown here, other members will likely be foraging nearby, minding their own business out of the fight, and may occasionally stop to look at the action.
I’ve seen sparrows all gather around to watch a fight. There’s even a cute video where two go wrestling off of a ledge and the other sparrows rush to the edge to keep watching. And birds are a lot closer to Pachycephalosaurus than goats and deer.
I disagree with this portrayal. Yes, they were headbutting at full force, no, they weren't going at it like Bighorn Sheep. I think that rather much like a White-Tailed Deer does during the meek of winter, they fed on tree bark, first by pulverizing the area of the tree they could reach at with their dome, followed by sheering some dangling strips with the rear horns, mashing these strips to finer threads using their nose horns, then peeling away the edible parts using their beak-like mouth. What they basically ate was sap-soaked coarse fiber spaghetti, which would have made them very territorial of preferred trees, and given the ranging size difference between dome-skulled dinosaurs with similar but differing spike designs, I speculate that each species shared same trees albeit at different browsing heights and times of the year, to avoid destroying the tree trunks which were thus pruned of wildfire risk by consuming away the less dense exterior that was more susceptible to being as kindling.
You know there are fossils of Pachycephalosaurus that show healed injuries on the tops of their domes, so the headbutting like Rams part is actually accurate.
@@The_PokeSaurus Yeah, because actual paleontologists worked on this show. They really listened to the professionals when making these segments. You can't argue with paleontologists with years of experience and fossil evidence.
There's no fossil evidence that suggests Pachycephalosaurus had feathers. It could've had feathers, but there's no concrete proof or evidence, so it's okay to have a featherless design.
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Just in case you think otherwise, Pachycephalosaurus did in fact headbutt, several studies examined the skulls and found tissue damage that resembled those of modern aminals that headbutt.
@SmashBrosInitiative To protect their massive brains obviously! lol.
@SmashBrosInitiativethat reminds me of the braindead "Thylacosmilus is a scavenger" argument, ignoring that its sabers evolved for a reason. Pachycephalosaurus domes were likely more often used for bashing into beehives and feeding on the bees, but could also be used to fight
Agreed.
@@Lamacetus I'd be more inclined to believe that Pachycephalosaurus did absolutely nothing with its skull when it wasn't using it to knock heads. Saying a Pachy would use its skull for "beehives" would be like saying Thylacosmilus was more likely to use its fangs to "dig up termites". If you develop a skull like that to butt heads, you'll use it to butt heads but otherwise I doubt you'll see an animal like that use their anatomy in a more "creative" fashion.
@SmashBrosInitiative mostly because they are significantly smaller than a t-Rex
One of my favorite scenes in season 2 personally, and I loved the comeback of the old male and how the younger one got the wind knocked clean out of him. You can see all kinds of subtle details how each views the situation differently. The young male constantly glances around at the females, stops paying attention, and even falters a little in some of his movements. The old male however, is fully focused and 100% dialed in. Fantastic scene
So well put. The younger male just did not have the reflexes, man. Hesitated at every critical moment, charged too slow, dodged too slow. Fumble after fumble. He didn’t stand a chance.
I like how they are not just headbutting heads but also locking their head horns headbutting their side and trying to see who can last longer
Gives a good explanation for why those horns exist. I equate it also to kangaroos. They don't just kick but also grapple each other with their claws in a fight.
I love how engrossed in the fighting the other herdmates are. They're like spectators at a boxing match, cheering as the contestants beat the crud out of each other.
They kind of have to, since fights like this could result in a change in the group’s dynamic.
It seems youthful arrogance isn't exclusive to people
Never was
This is actually pretty common behavior in the animal kingdom.
This is why I always argue humans are still animals. We’re highly intelligent with evolved morals, but much of our behavior is still in line with animals.
@@GojiraFan25 There is nothing to argue about. Humans ARE animals.
@@GojiraFan25 Humans are objectively animals. It is fact, and anyone that denies it is delusional and has a superiority complex, because they don't like being compared to other animals, be because it takes away from our supposive "uniqueness."
If it hadn't been for his overconfidence, perhaps he could have secured the battle. He tried at least.
It’s mostly overconfidence that makes people do dumb stuff
@@YuriJairusRuales1313Like the fool behind the Titan submersible.
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow, and insidious killer
@@PurplePartyParasaur Be wary. Triumphant pride precipitates a dizzying fall
The CGI makes it so real that it looks like they’re filming it irl
Seriously. Where tf was this in Jurassic World???? Those look plastic. These actually look flesh and blood
@@RogueT-Rex8468 They used animatronics in jp to jp3 which was kinda hard... but since technology has evolved we can make things look realistic
Oh I’m aware of that! That’s what made JP great! I’m talking Jurassic WORLD. dominion released like what a year ago and they didn’t come CLOSE to this. @@YuriJairusRuales1313
@@RogueT-Rex8468They do not look plastic.
That's the point, they're meant to look like real animals.
Dinosaurs WERE real, but what I meant was, they're meant to look like they exist in the present.
So cool to see one of my favorite dinosaurs getting a neat scene.
Definitely one of the best parts of the series
My dinosaur faze is slowly creeping back into me. A feeling that left me when i was 7. Im 14 now. Pachyceplosarous was one of my favorite dinosaurs. My obsession may not be as strong, but its good nostalgia
Feed it... let the obsession grow. I'm 31 and my obsession for dinosaurs has expanded into all sorts of avenues.
@@StarletteLily5874 return to us. You’re welcome here. We have much to offer. Much has changed since you left.
THANK YOU PREHISTORIC PLANET FOR ALL OF THESE GREAT EPISODES
I find it really cool on how even 'small' dinosaurs still make very deep and primeval noises
I mean, these animals weighed almost as much as a cow. It would be weird if they didn't have deep voices.
Animals seem to get deeper voices the bigger they get. Listen to a cassowary, and realise that by non-avian dinosaur standards, it’s kinda tiny. Let that sink in for a while. Really marinate in it.
What did you expect them to go "hi my name is Dave"?
@@johndasalty111 no lmao, they expected them to have a more high-pitched call.
@@Saurophaganax1931 they were, effectively, the goats of their day.
2:55 and thus began the villain arc for this young pachy
He's in his joker era
@@prixe12 Young T-Rex: Or maybe not
I love that the older male is winded and breathing hard. You don’t see breathing very often in paleo media portrayed
He’s got a nosebleed at the end.
I really enjoyed the pachycephalosaurus fighting. It was pretty awesome. They were both going at it at first I thought the young male was dead or he was coughing up blood know he was hurt pretty bad, but he got the hell out of here
Never turn your back on your opponent
True
They should’ve incorporated the most lethal pachy ability: Hard de syncing and making it impossible to hit eachother 😢
and being able to jump towards the moon xD
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Said it twice and I'll say it again Larger pachy really said "sit yo little ass back down boy "
Man i actually thought the young male won the fight.
Same XD
I read this right as the younger male "won" and was completely confused (and surprised) when the older male made a comeback.
@@tec-jones5445 it ain’t over till it’s over…
The moral of this segment: Never celebrate too early, even in a fight that takes place on a dried-up riverbed 66 million years ago.
Can we just appreciate how the title chose the word “rut” instead of just a “pachy fight” title
That youngster is lucky he left with his life. By all counts, the elder male could have broken bones in his body to make an example of him.
And this is why you don't celebrate too early.
the old dreadnoughtus was exhausted after 2 weeks of no food, water, or rest. old dome here had all three and had a different outcome
Must have to do with the physical build. It was said that for the dreadnoughtus that lifting such a huge body was exhausting.
the dreadnothus were in a desert, the pachys seem to be in a less hostile place, at some point maybe they took a few moments to eat something and drink
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
I love how the others follow them everywhere and gather around, like FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!
The earliest depiction of “you got knocked the fucc out man.”
"The older male is heavier, over 15 pounds. But his rival is more nimble, and more agile, and, therefore, has more stamina."
“1+1=8”
A lot more than just 15 pounds. These are almost cow sized animals. The difference would be more like in the hundreds of pounds.
I think it's just a poorly-phrased indication that the old male is 15+ pounds *heavier*, rather than 15+ pounds *total*, perhaps?
@@columbidaze-p That’s like saying my car is 15+ lbs heavier than your car. Nobody talks like that.
Glad this season tried to introduce this dinosaur. We truly needed a documentary with good CGI and experts to potray these extinct bipedal herbivore animals quite well. Also this one at 2:55 sounded like the pachycephalosaurus from the Jurassic Park franchise.
The older male getting back up after the younger one thinks he’s won is like Bob Barker choking Adam Sandler after the latter says “The price is WRONG, bitch!”.
its so sad that the little loooses and now he have no chance to survive alone and far away from predators
I was like that young Pachycephalosaurs, only I was never put in my place. I never needed to be put in my place because I stopped just before I crossed the line. I also was born in a strong family and knew how to pin strengths against my opponents. It helped that my mom was a respected member of the school district too. Never really got physical but used strategy to win. I have since retired from that life and now look for ways to help out in bigger avenues. I have experience doing so, started with my college senate service. It will be a joy to become a great leader and help out with society and the environment.
Touting white privilege as a ‘personal’ survival mechanism. I mean, yeesh. At least they’re aware.
The design of pachy is great
Despite it doesn't have cheeks, it has a beak that helps it eat tough plants
Plants and bugs
Mostly plants, insects just provide a little extra protein.
@@tonybusch8771 And besides, where are you going to find plants in a drought?
The idea that ornithischians had cheeks is entirely speculative, it’s perfectly accurate for them to not have them.
@@LiamDyC
When drought happens
They just migrate to a different area to find more food
Are very cool CGI
Beautiful dinosaur
As a dinosaur enthusiast, I love how the pachys fight like goats
That youngster is not a good spot, he limps off with broken ribs, banished from the coalition & now has find food ok his own & contend with juvenile Tyrannosaurus’ by himself.
The older male is heavier while the young male is agile and has more stamina. Yup, I've known that for a while.
The same was said about the battling rival male Mosasaurs in Season 1.
Never celebrate early
I love that part of the video and it’s awesome I can’t believe I am seeing the howpachycephalosaurus fight each other
2:50
That one got me
"Time to make Jack Horner cry!"
Okay, can we please stop picking on Jack Horner? I’m sure he knows his lesson by now.
@@tonybusch8771 No, no he does not. Trust me.
@@doddthedodo7435, Hmmmm…..
@@tonybusch8771 I actually don’t think he does. To my knowledge he still stands by the scavenger T. rex hypothesis. Or at the very least he hasn’t renounced it.
What about this, pray tell, is meant to make Jack Horner cry?
Raise your hand if you noticed that the Pachys are the same color of the Kenner Lost World: Jurassic Park Pachy figure.
I noticed
That means the Kenner toy has scientifically accurate colors
I noticed as well.
1:22 Let’s get ready to rumble!!!
Yeah!!!!!
I often forget these dinosaurs existed. Thanks for reminding me. 👍
Sadly, some people believe dinosaurs didn- worse, NEVER existed
It's funny that the others are watching the fight. That is something animals like deer and goat never do.
Yeah and? No rock on Earth will be able to fossilise behaviour so who said they didn’t round up in giant numbers to watch males fight? Any either way these aren’t ungulates, these are pachycephalosaurs. Even though their mating life shows clear convergences they’re obviously not going to be the same.
@@TarbosaurusBaatar I just think that animals which are watching the fights and be interested in the outcome have more intelligence then the animals who don't.
@@JohanScherft Oh, sorry I misread your comment. I apologise.
I watched kangroo fighting and they are similar here whete some watches the fight. In kangaroo also some can jump into other fights hahah
At my work Ive seen flocks of birds follow around a pair that are fighting. They all go around from place to place chirping at them
When the finish him pops up but you don’t do anything…
The Alpha Pachy at 2:57--If you can't stay focused on the fight, kid, then you're not fit to lead this herd.
the older one ate him uppp with that surprise tackle omg
The dominant male must have been the young one's father. This was the young one's time to either assert himself as the new alpha or be exiled to establish his own herd.
More please
Goats got nothing on these guys lol
Sucker punch from this older one
Does this exile thing happens in herds of buffalos or others bovine types?
Not sure, but it's similar to what you can see in many primate species
@@GandalfTheTsaagan i think they were probably more similars to bovines.
I'm pretty sure it happens in Bison herds. The male calfs grow up and think they can fight the big male, then they get kicked out and they leave to join another herd. Same thing happens with Lion prides.
@@jacobcox4565 wild horses also do the same
@@jacobcox4565
A lot of social animals do it.
Young males thing they’re all that, and can do whatever they want.
The big male (who’s usually their father) is quick to correct them on that, and drive them out.
I read something online that some evidence suggests Pachycephalosaurus may have also kicked like modern kangaroos. They claim their tails would be able to balance them and allow them to kick like modern kangaroos. If that's the case then that might mean they also hopped like kangaroos. If that's true then that might mean they could headbutt even harder than we thought.
lmfao probably not. comparing the two you can see that pachycephalosaurus is not built at all closely enough for it
Well afterwards I did read that they weren't built for hopping. If they could jump I would still think they could headbutt harder.@@FrostFall0261
They are far too heavy to be able to do that. Tail whipping at most but their tail would be far too weak to hold their body weight long enough to kick.
Yeah, I think that was disproven. Though I do still think they might've been decent jumpers.@@texanwokey8366
Episode is called "Swamps"
Oh yeah, Pachys lives in swamps-
Shows Pachys fighting in sage brush
The narrator explained earlier that they're in a drought.
@@jacobcox4565 Hell Creek was subtropical swamp forest. Sagebrush didn't even evolve until the later Cenozoic. No drought could possibly have made Hell Creek look ANYTHING like this. It's as accurate as putting a Giraffe in a South American rainforest eating Cecropia. Then again, PP is a speculative cartoon, not a documentary.
@@nonope7359 Hell Creek spanned 3 states, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. That's a lot of land, and the formation spanned millions of years. You're telling me a drought never would've happened even once? Also, Prehistoric Planet is not a "speculative cartoon." The show has speculative elements like every other dinosaur documentary. The show also did its research and showed it in short post-episode videos. The appearance of sagebrush also can't be helped. The show films real locations for backgrounds and environments.
@@jacobcox4565 Can you tell me where the sagebrush in Hell Creek was located during the Mesozoic? Drought doesn't convert Mesozoic subtropical forest into coldweather Cenozoic scrub. You're right, calling PP "speculative" is being generous. The correct term would be antiscientific disinformation.
@@nonope7359Don’t you have anything better to do than yell into the void about whether or not a plant that no one other than you is paying attention to is in the right time period?
Amazing 👍
They are so adorable
Most etheral scene in prehistoric planet.
NOW THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE BATTLE OF DINOSAUR WITS
They have the wide jaws yay
2:49 pachy jumpsacre
Thang that got to hurt!!!!!!’
They definitely were not the most intelligent of the dinosaurs. Most of them suffered from CTE most likely. Even with having extra thick skulls, lol.
@@LA-mu8ms in fairness, the same happens with goats today.
So Rampardos was a Fighting-type Pokémon in the ancient past.
It should be one anyways.
@@The_PokeSaurus I think being fossilized for millions of years turns you into a rock type.
@@ximthedespot4673 Yeah, but it can have two types, it's just rock in the game. In fact, Rampardos is the only pure rock-type fossil Pokemon.
@@The_PokeSaurus Perhaps it was a pure fighting type in eons past.
this is like to kangaroo males fighting.
Kangaroo/wild goat like animals fighting each other.
this is how bald people fight
literally cranidos vs rampardos haha
Talk about budding heads
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Am I the only one who thinks that the Pachycephalosaurs in PP did look way too skinny? Usually I don't have this problem at all with the PP designs, but in this case I would have imagined the Pachys to be very bulky, especially in their necks due to their assumed life style.
I never thought of this but you're spot on with the necks
How the grunts and snarls translate..
Pachy 1: “You bonehead”
Pachy 2: “No! You’re a bonehead”
Pachy 1: “Take that”
Pachy 2: “What-a-tryin to do…tickle me. Take that”!
What mix of animal sounds were used?
Why can’t men shave their heads and do this nowadays
Three words: Severe Brain Trauma.
well who says they can't?
Pacy real colaur 😁👌
OWWWWWW 2:43 BOOKIOOOM 2:30
average bald guy fight be like
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2:49 That...Was anticlimactic
Tylenol anyone!!
I know it is fictional, but since the alpha male was down first, how come that was not considered a defeat? Sine many animals consider a lose when they are down?
It was a fake out. The younger one celebrated his victory prematurely, which allowed the older male to catch his breath and take down the younger male.
@@BigBadDragon777 only if they stay down.
This is what type of animal can someone explain to me please .thanks for back to me with reply
Your question is worded poorly. I can't understand what answer you want.
These are Pachycephalosaurus
@@daudhaider2564 Pachycephalosaurus. Soooooomewhat closely related to Triceratops (but not that closely). Basically the dinosaur equivalent to goats.
I thaught they kickboxed, now their back to headbutting?
It never really changed it was just an idea
Oh, okay then
Not sure how the old one won but okay…
The younger male celebrated his victory to early, letting the older male to catch his breath and beat the younger male while he was distracted.
Die kaempfen bis zum Tod . 😢
Animals rarely fight to the death and this time is no different. The older male just kicked his rival out of the herd, he didn't kill him.
Disappointing performance by the alpha male at the end he was down he lost fair and square but couldn’t let his ego be bruised like that and took a cheap shot at the youngster while his back was turned I expected better
The younger one shouldn't have celebrated too early, he should've took the time to properly oust the older male instead of gloating.
@@jacobcox4565No, the older one was fully knocked down and the fight was over at that point. The younger one proved his strength in the fight after the older one collapsed. Anyone can get beaten up hard if they’re surprised, imagine if the fight started with the younger male straight up bodying the older one by doing an ambush. Not really fair, is it?
@@weallstilldie The younger one clearly didn't body the older one if he was able to get up seconds after being knocked down. The fight wasn't over until one left the herd. Besides, why are we arguing about what's fair in this fight between animals? Animals don't play fair. Animals don't have honor. It's not like there's a referee that's going to blow his whistle and wave a red card in front of the old Pachycephalosaurus for breaking the rules.
@@jacksondavis2963 all’s fair in love and war, I suppose.
2:50
“STFU”
2:50 eita lapada do caramba mermão
So, Stygimoloch and Dracorex are no longer considered as the juvenile version of Pachycephalosaurus then?
The current consensus is that they are immature forms; what used to be Stygimoloch may be a different species of Pachycephalosaurus though, but still Pachycephalosaurus
they are, even though here they gave the old male longer horns their dome sizes corresponds to the supposed growth stages
It's physically impossible for them to be juveniles of Pachycephalosaurus. The horns are too long, they would have to lose horn size as they age and no other horned animals in history do that.
@@The_PokeSaurus physically impossible and logically unlikely are two different things dude. Also don't forget that while the horns get smaller the dome gets bigger. And don't you think it's a bit suspicious that every flat-headed pachycephalosaurid we found so far was a juvenile that happened to coexist with larger, dome-headed but otherwise very similar adult forms?
@@matyaskassay4346 No I don't find it suspicious. Also, I know the difference between unlikely and impossible, it is impossible.
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What
FYI David was only avoice actor here, he was never sure if all these actually happened or harpooned
Io😮
Great scene but bad location. Is that a grassland? They didn’t exist at the time! Also, it has no relation to “Swamps”.
agreed, should have been in the North America ep
@@kekgnome493 and more importantly, not in grassy terrain
While at the time true grasses were not as widespread as they are today, a number of grass-like plants very much were, especially in more humid areas (like we see in the Freshwater episode). The scene depicts a formerly humid area, so it fits
The reason why it's so dry is because they're in a drought. The environment they're in is normally wet and swampy.
It's related to swamps because they said that the swamp is normally wet, but they're currently in a drought. Think of places like the okavango delta where it has rainy seasons and dry seasons.
Seems like mammalian behavior
Or maybe it's because the only animals that do headbutting contests today are mammals, and they have adaptations similar to Pachycephalosaurus.
Do you think dinosaurs acted like they do in Ark in real life?
The series is great but they really screwed up ornithischian dinosaurs.
I love that they added lips on saurichians, but these ornithischians need cheeks not lips. Even birds have cheeks at the inner edge if their mandible.
Ornithischian chewed their greens, cheeks are required for this.
They didn't chew their greens though. Unless you don't mean chew in the same way mammals do. Ornithischian dinosaurs, like all archosaurs, used their specialized teeth to rip through plants which they then swallowed whole. They also would have swallowed small stones called gastroliths in order to help grind their food.
@@kade-qt1zu you're wrong. Gastroliths have been found in very few dinosaurs.
Ornithischian beaks ripped through plants, while their teeth either shredded or crushed the vegetation.
Ornithischians had extremely complex teeth so it varied from species to species but they all used beaks to Rip vegetation from stems.
The tooth battery on ornithopods were essentially advanced molars, like elephant and mammoth molars but far more advanced.
Cheeks were essential for this type of chewing.
I am disappointed that they missed this in the animation, it's very amateur. These dinosaurs LITERALLY had cheek bones on their upper mandible under the eyes 🤦
@@trvth1s Thanks for the correction.
@@kade-qt1zu no worries. I'm just surprised a series that spent so much money in realism missed this. We actually have a fossilized cheeks in an ankylosaurid. The bastards had osteodorms on their cheek!
@@trvth1s Ornithischian cheeks weren't nearly as extensive as you might think. They weren't completely cheekless to be fair, but it wouldn't have been full up-to-the beak mammal-like coverage like in 90s to early 2000s paleoart, not even in the ankylosaur with the cheek osteoderms. They don't actually need soft tissue that extensive to chew their food effectively, nor did they really have the musculature to support it.
These are all the same, pack animals dominate or predator vs prey.
What about the segment where the Triceratops herd ate clay to help digest poisonous plants, or the segment about the Olorotitans raising their young, the Barsboldia migrating, the Deinocheirus scratching an itch, the Tuarangisaurus giving birth, the Ornithomimus stealing sticks from nests to build its own, the Atrociraptor using smoke to get rid of parasites, the Beelzebufo finding a suitable puddle of water, the Carnotaurus dance, the sneaky male Barbaridactylus. They're not all the same. Those other segments about hunting and fighting for dominance are there because animals do that a lot, and Dinosaurs are animals.
One thing Prehistoric Planet still got wrong is how other members of the herd usually stop to look at the fight. If you look at real animals, you will see that other members don't usually take a close inspection like this whenever sparring occurs. Being herbivores means they have to constantly eat, thus something that is not directly involved with themselves such as fights among other individuals doesn't warrant any reason for them to stop foraging.
Even if they are to pay attention to a fight, they don't really need to turn their face toward it since their eyes are on the sides of their head, granting them a vision of the fight even when their face is pointing elsewhere.
So rather than everyone coming together to see the spectacle as shown here, other members will likely be foraging nearby, minding their own business out of the fight, and may occasionally stop to look at the action.
Pachycephalosaurus is a omnivore
Pachycephalosaurus
4,5 meters long
Eats plants and bugs
That's right
I like that the pachycephalosaurus fights like in the lost world jurassic park
headbutt
I’ve seen sparrows all gather around to watch a fight. There’s even a cute video where two go wrestling off of a ledge and the other sparrows rush to the edge to keep watching. And birds are a lot closer to Pachycephalosaurus than goats and deer.
I disagree with this portrayal. Yes, they were headbutting at full force, no, they weren't going at it like Bighorn Sheep. I think that rather much like a White-Tailed Deer does during the meek of winter, they fed on tree bark, first by pulverizing the area of the tree they could reach at with their dome, followed by sheering some dangling strips with the rear horns, mashing these strips to finer threads using their nose horns, then peeling away the edible parts using their beak-like mouth. What they basically ate was sap-soaked coarse fiber spaghetti, which would have made them very territorial of preferred trees, and given the ranging size difference between dome-skulled dinosaurs with similar but differing spike designs, I speculate that each species shared same trees albeit at different browsing heights and times of the year, to avoid destroying the tree trunks which were thus pruned of wildfire risk by consuming away the less dense exterior that was more susceptible to being as kindling.
You know there are fossils of Pachycephalosaurus that show healed injuries on the tops of their domes, so the headbutting like Rams part is actually accurate.
@@jacobcox4565 You're someone who actually does research.
@@The_PokeSaurus I barely did anything. All I did was watch the short video about this episode explaining the Pachycephalosaurus headbutting behavior.
@@jacobcox4565 Oh, well still better than people who doubt the headbutting.
@@The_PokeSaurus Yeah, because actual paleontologists worked on this show. They really listened to the professionals when making these segments. You can't argue with paleontologists with years of experience and fossil evidence.
where's the feathers?
There's no fossil evidence that suggests Pachycephalosaurus had feathers. It could've had feathers, but there's no concrete proof or evidence, so it's okay to have a featherless design.
@@jacobcox4565the closest thing I’ve seen to feathers is pssitacosaurus like quills on its tail
@@Hedorahstan71that's a ceratopsian bro
Not every dino had feathers, read more
@@Corcovatuz Pachycephalosaurs and Ceratopsians are both part of a larger group called Marginocephalia, so they're distant relatives.
why didnt they still use feathers on t rex and stuff this wasnt before that discovery right?
Yes, this was after those skin impressions of T. rex were found.