Punisher Humbles The Joker

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  • @thatguyzero
    @thatguyzero  Рік тому +74

    Comic Book:amzn.to/3CfZeaw

  • @alessandrobozzi7085
    @alessandrobozzi7085 Рік тому +2327

    "You know, in Gotham we do things differently. We don't kill mass murderers."
    "Fuck you."

    • @spade8094
      @spade8094 Рік тому +121

      I want to see frank castle in sin city

    • @juanveleda8762
      @juanveleda8762 Рік тому +55

      ​@@spade8094 He already is. His name is Marv

    • @spade8094
      @spade8094 Рік тому +24

      Marv is the goat

    • @bulbafett5001
      @bulbafett5001 Рік тому +76

      I do love it's canon that after Red Hood purged theh Drug Dealers in gotham, crime has permanently been slightly lower.

    • @duskbringer4583
      @duskbringer4583 Рік тому +32

      "Explains places death count."

  • @shwetasingh5617
    @shwetasingh5617 Рік тому +2373

    If Punisher operated in Gotham crime rates in Gotham would have been reduced by at least 80% .

    • @quanglinhnguyenpham1441
      @quanglinhnguyenpham1441 Рік тому +98

      no, things is gonna be way more worst. Criminal gonna be more crazy, more unpredictable, and even you kill some top notch like joker or riddler, there’ll be some evil bastard replace them with much more cruelty. Cause now they know it’s death or alive.

    • @shwetasingh5617
      @shwetasingh5617 Рік тому +372

      @@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 top dogs will fight to death but majority of low level criminals won't have the courage to fight him .

    • @noneofyourbuisness1679
      @noneofyourbuisness1679 Рік тому +44

      While also reducing the population just through collateral damage alone

    • @quanglinhnguyenpham1441
      @quanglinhnguyenpham1441 Рік тому +18

      @@shwetasingh5617 no my friend, they’re gonna be the most terror for Gotham city, if the top dog can’t save their life, then they’ll take everyone else to hell with them

    • @hawdarkshooter
      @hawdarkshooter Рік тому +164

      @@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 no it wouldn't. Once you take out the Heavy Hitters like Joker, Two face, Bane, poison ivy, penguin, etc crime won't be the same. You just making excuses.

  • @GRAH_GRAH_BOOM1
    @GRAH_GRAH_BOOM1 Рік тому +1503

    I like how punisher doesn’t care if he kills people and that genuinely scared joker

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 Рік тому +204

      Can't toy with Batman if you are dead. Joker always sees the battle between him and Batman is an ideological battle. But the Punisher doesn't want to debate. He's only concerned with one thing that is Joker must die.

    • @arnoldasbucys7786
      @arnoldasbucys7786 Рік тому +96

      Punisher is violence and the answer is yes.

    • @kidsyx
      @kidsyx Рік тому +80

      I think its because joker lives to break rules, especially Batmans. What he clearly doesn't realise is the punisher doesn't have any, other than "punish the evil and wicked" 😂 the punisher is like the boogeyman to a dude like the joker 😂

    • @Resident4Island
      @Resident4Island Рік тому +13

      This why Nolanverse Joker is the only one true Joker unlike the comic book Joker he is only one who actually broke Batman and doesn't fear death maybe beacuse he was an ex soldier. I think Nolanverse Joker would laugh at Comic's Joker pathetic attemp's to break Batman.

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 Рік тому +12

      @@Resident4Island Nolan's Batman did something several times worse than murder (using mass surveillance and interference with the legislation) even without making Batman committing murder, the trilogy Joker won.

  • @louthegiantcookie
    @louthegiantcookie Рік тому +1963

    It's brilliant how quickly Joker's 'crazy' shtick gets dropped when he meets someone who won't play along and buy into the grift.

    • @katkit4281
      @katkit4281 Рік тому +111

      Except in the canon DC universe Joker literally is so insane he has no fears.

    • @Resident4Island
      @Resident4Island Рік тому +27

      Nolan Joker : Why So Serious.

    • @alexsolomon8127
      @alexsolomon8127 Рік тому +150

      well, it's like Jason Todd said to Joker once, when he was setting up a three way confrontation between him and Batman "I know your secret. Sure, you're crazy....but you're not THAT crazy." Joker wasn't laughing for that line. Same thing with Harley Quinn, really. She was always more than a manic pixie sidekick/brainless moll.

    • @louthegiantcookie
      @louthegiantcookie Рік тому +102

      @@alexsolomon8127 Yeah, it's a con. And it makes Joker MORE evil, because he's perfectly sane - but plays the system and manipulates the empathy and decency of those around him to keep getting away with his antics. I do wish Batman would just get wise to it, though.

    • @alexsolomon8127
      @alexsolomon8127 Рік тому +17

      @@louthegiantcookie oh, he knows. you forget though..HE"S INSANE TOO.

  • @Rockwolf66
    @Rockwolf66 Рік тому +832

    One thing I don't like about this run is that the writers forget that the Punisher is a Martial artist. He has studied eight different martial arts and trains to an extreme level. His fighting style should not be anger fueled brawling.

    • @carlosvasquez1947
      @carlosvasquez1947 Рік тому +166

      thats what i hate about comic writers they would always nerf a character whens its convenient for the plot

    • @Rockwolf66
      @Rockwolf66 Рік тому +158

      @@carlosvasquez1947 exactly. While Batman should be the better hand to hand combatant it should not be one sided and it should show that the Punisher is trained and disciplined in hand to hand combat.

    • @mrplayfulshade
      @mrplayfulshade Рік тому +8

      Well did you stop to think maybe this isn't that same Punisher?

    • @Tracer_Krieg
      @Tracer_Krieg Рік тому +82

      Even beyond this, Frank has received extensive hand to hand training both due to his time in Marine Force Recon and canonically cross training with DELTA and SAS. While Batman would be better, Punisher would prove challenging nonetheless.

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager Рік тому +6

      Ennis never wrote the punisher that way and his is the most iconic.

  • @gamester512
    @gamester512 Рік тому +781

    Reminds me of an exchange between Spawn & Joker in Mortal Kombat:
    *Spawn:* "Your angel of death awaits."
    *Joker:* "You can't kill me! Heroes have moral codes!"
    *Spawn:* "Who said I was a Hero?"

    • @immortalfrieza
      @immortalfrieza Рік тому +102

      An actual hero would be willing to kill The Joker, not to mention anybody else. That's part of being a hero, being willing to do whatever is necessary to stop villains like Joker from harming people, including killing them.

    • @manojsinghkathait9551
      @manojsinghkathait9551 Рік тому +63

      ​@@immortalfriezaAny damn hero will not even hesitate to kill joker on the spot because how much dangerous he is.

    • @leonelzubieta8636
      @leonelzubieta8636 7 місяців тому +20

      @@manojsinghkathait9551But he is Batman’s wife and Batman will defend Joker no matter what

    • @manojsinghkathait9551
      @manojsinghkathait9551 7 місяців тому

      @@leonelzubieta8636 that's some femboy shit which I don't want to argue on man

    • @ervamoten5830
      @ervamoten5830 5 місяців тому +15

      ​@@immortalfrieza All Might from My Hero Academia is view as the number one hero and the very symbol of peace, and he had the resolve to kill All For One, because All Might deemed AFO too much of a threat to humanity. But All Might failed because he didn't make sure AFO was fully dead. And we can see in MHA All Might had more than enough conviction to kill AFO the second time around despite failing and sending AFO to prison. Since All Might recieved a grave blow to his chest or torso in his first battle against AFO, All Might was losing the ability to use his power over time, so the second battle was more or less the last time All Might delivered a powerful blow using up the rest of his power. (P.S. the first MHA movie with deku in the battle against Wolfram where All Might used his power was something else and I don't wanna delve too deeply 😅)

  • @legionofmetal9968
    @legionofmetal9968 Рік тому +951

    The punisher is right. Absolutely right.
    I'm a batman fan but he is right. Once again, the batman allows the joker to get away due to self righteousness. The result is more will die.
    Castle is right. They deserve each other.

    • @StudioPluche
      @StudioPluche Рік тому +48

      Took the words right out of my mouth.

    • @immortalfrieza
      @immortalfrieza Рік тому +111

      Batman has outright saved the Joker's life on numerous occasions, including now. Bruce is not just metaphorically but directly responsible for everything The Joker does.

    • @greedysourceofgod4819
      @greedysourceofgod4819 Рік тому +25

      ​@immortalfrieza that's why I like the moment in dark knight returns where he acknowledged it

    • @Fradth
      @Fradth Рік тому +19

      Batman too is a mental ill guy. If he don't kill its not because it will not solve problems, in cases like Joker who cares about a second, third, or billonth chance to redeem himself the important thing is to take him out of the range of innocent people, and thousands of times jails don't keep him locked a long time.
      Batman fear to become a psycho like Joker if he kill, and in some universes it effectively happens.

    • @SpideyfanX
      @SpideyfanX Рік тому +10

      ​@@FradthThe only reason it happens in those universes is because of dumb writers. The only excuse I can give is Batman Who Laughs, since when Joker died, he released Joker Toxin onto Batman upon death.

  • @ramell4
    @ramell4 Рік тому +387

    If you fuse Punisher and Batman, you get Flashpoint Batman.

    • @NhBleker
      @NhBleker Рік тому +24

      Or The Grim Knight

    • @manintheline5331
      @manintheline5331 Рік тому +27

      @@NhBleker Or Jason Todd

    • @huskymetal6678
      @huskymetal6678 8 місяців тому +6

      Or maybe something completely more terrifying

    • @2011maxik
      @2011maxik 4 місяці тому

      Ooo that's so true

    • @davepowder4020
      @davepowder4020 3 місяці тому

      Crossover time, The Punisher Who Chuckles!

  • @SmeeHal
    @SmeeHal Рік тому +159

    Joker was made a bch. He found out some people aint playin games, like Bruce.
    This is why I love Frank Castle. No frills, No bullshit.
    " If youre guilty, Youre Dead "

  • @theshizl4400
    @theshizl4400 Рік тому +140

    If Frank can't get Batman to kill Joker no one can. On a side note, I miss the days when comics were comics and characters could fuck around in each other's universes

  • @plagueofjoe
    @plagueofjoe Рік тому +273

    Batman didn’t stop Punisher from killing random goons but did stop him from killing the mass murderer who organizes them.

    • @GabrielMoreira-3669
      @GabrielMoreira-3669 4 місяці тому +27

      Hipocrisia?

    • @zahirecoates
      @zahirecoates 4 місяці тому +38

      Right ? Like make up your mind you can't just let me kill the regular threats but not omega level ones

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager 3 місяці тому +23

      This is quite possibly my most hated cliche in fiction. A hero that blasts through dozens or even hundreds of people, then won't take out the one behind it because "I don't want to be like you!"

  • @eren34558
    @eren34558 Рік тому +260

    Batman has gone out of his way to save the jokers life from everything, including an electric chair.
    No really, batman served as the jokers defense attorney

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 4 місяці тому +30

      I get Batman has the opinion that anyone no matter how evil can be redeemed, but I think once it costs lives maybe ask if your ethical opinions are worth the cost.

    • @babayaga7434
      @babayaga7434 4 місяці тому +5

      Which literally goes against his mantra of things being done by the books without his involvement

    • @changvasejarik62
      @changvasejarik62 3 місяці тому +3

      I’m gonna have to ask for the issue and number.
      Because if that’s true, then it’s possible Billy Batson has a less naive view on the no kill rule.
      He’s a child and a bigger boyscout than superman and even he drew the line at saving Albrecht Krieger.
      But again I’d have to read the book first before judgment.

    • @Crisis-Comics
      @Crisis-Comics 3 місяці тому

      ​@@changvasejarik62 The Joker: Devil's Advocate. The big moral dilemma of the story was more that someone else poisoned people with stamps and then pinned THAT on the Joker (resulting in him getting sent to death row instead of Arkham), but Batman realized Joker was innocent.

    • @xdgaming70
      @xdgaming70 2 місяці тому

      @@Crisis-ComicsAt least Batman is technically right. Without the context you made it sound like Batman defended Joker for what he actually did which is beyond bad

  • @MoaRider
    @MoaRider Рік тому +375

    "NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL MY HECKIN JOKERINO, I HAVE TOO MUCH FUN PLAYING WITH HIM!!!!!"
    Batman is a bigger clown then Joker ever could be.

    • @bimates2690
      @bimates2690 Рік тому +59

      Man really risks the lives of innocents. We still expected to see him as a "hero."

    • @triplecrosscounter
      @triplecrosscounter Рік тому

      "KILLING A MASS MURDERING LUNATIC THAT HAS SLAUGHTERED AND TORTURED MILLIONS IS BAD BECAUSE... uhhh... well... because... ...BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK?!?!?"

    • @ColdNorth0628
      @ColdNorth0628 Рік тому +3

      @@bimates2690 cause he feels it is not his call to make.

    • @johnathanshade2578
      @johnathanshade2578 Рік тому

      ​@ColdNorth0628 bruce wayne could literally run for president on his own dollar and win if he really felt like making a difference. But why bother when beating up the mentally ill is so much fun?

    • @pentacopter9909
      @pentacopter9909 Рік тому +33

      ​@@ColdNorth0628 why did he stop punisher from doing it then?

  • @SuperXAsh
    @SuperXAsh 9 місяців тому +29

    Love the line “got all the therapy you need right here.”
    Joker had his smile wiped off there, realized Frank wasn’t fucking around.

  • @3adgamd3r
    @3adgamd3r Рік тому +165

    4:22 pause: Jokers “You’re really going to do it.” Absolutely stone cold, looking at what he wants Batman to be, and he was terrified of it.

    • @Crimson_Sun2486
      @Crimson_Sun2486 10 місяців тому +21

      He was scared because it _wasn't_ Batman who was going to pull the trigger. It has to be Bruce, or his death would be meaningless

  • @GRR1MN1R
    @GRR1MN1R Рік тому +48

    you know shit hits to roof when Batman had to say to Joker to run away to save his life

  • @Riley_Mundt
    @Riley_Mundt 4 місяці тому +74

    The Punisher is just Batman from the 1940's before the "No Kill Rule" existed.

    • @judesheckelberg5135
      @judesheckelberg5135 3 місяці тому +6

      The Batman that kills is the Batman that wins.

    • @chaosgyro
      @chaosgyro 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@judesheckelberg5135 We've always had that character. His name is The Shadow.

    • @rouge9183
      @rouge9183 3 місяці тому +2

      The punisher makes sure the bad guy doesn't get back up that's a hero

    • @DHworldwide185
      @DHworldwide185 3 місяці тому

      He ditched killing. It’s apart of the character and Batman is STILL a superhero.

    • @rouge9183
      @rouge9183 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DHworldwide185 but Batman lets the villain live just for him/her to do it again

  • @mrthebillman
    @mrthebillman Рік тому +188

    The Punisher is NOT 'just a brawler', he is a Marine expert in hand to hand combat.

    • @mytzyxptlyx
      @mytzyxptlyx Рік тому +28

      Damn right.

    • @Tacklepig
      @Tacklepig Рік тому +1

      Used to be maybe. As Punisher, he's little more than a mindless maniac.

    • @mrthebillman
      @mrthebillman Рік тому +22

      @@Tacklepig ??? What noob told you that???

    • @pantheman2842
      @pantheman2842 Рік тому +2

      Even they can be overshadowed by Batman.

    • @JPbarbosa8
      @JPbarbosa8 Рік тому +1

      I would comment exactly that

  • @ShadowdaHedgie11
    @ShadowdaHedgie11 Рік тому +81

    Yeah, the Joker is lucky the only hero who deals with him is Batman. There are quite a few heroes who simply wouldn't bother with Joker's bullshit and would just kill him.

    • @rustyjones7908
      @rustyjones7908 4 місяці тому +17

      When Superman says he'd kill Joker if he set foot in Metropolis then maybe he's past saving.

  • @JohnwayneNOgacy
    @JohnwayneNOgacy Рік тому +21

    Absolutely love when DC and Marvel come together. What a time to be alive !

  • @JoSheperd
    @JoSheperd Рік тому +80

    *Joker would literally be toast atleast 90% of the time if facing Marvels heroes xD*

    • @TheRedMan77
      @TheRedMan77 7 місяців тому +22

      I would like to see Joker try and pull his bullshit with Deadpool or Moon Knight.

    • @Longder09
      @Longder09 5 місяців тому +12

      @@TheRedMan77 deadpool would just broke 4th wall as usual, and for Moon Knight, you are quite right.

    • @JRGProjects
      @JRGProjects 4 місяці тому +3

      Two words: Scarlet Spider. Ben Reilly wouldn't put up with nearly as much crap as Parker and would have terminated Joker.

    • @JRGProjects
      @JRGProjects 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Longder09Scarlet Spider, Kaine or Ben would rekt Joker and not think twice. Parker and Miles would let him live like Bats.

  • @GenericPhantom1
    @GenericPhantom1 Рік тому +66

    0:36 The Punisher is a marine he 1000% knows martial arts.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому

      And? Batman has beat soldiers before

    • @eugeneturner7520
      @eugeneturner7520 Рік тому +17

      ​@@D-class9341He was only a marine in some continuities; he's special forces in others - a literally Seal. Someone who should be able to go toe to toe with Batman and put up a decent fight - maybe not win - but hold his own.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +2

      @@eugeneturner7520 The US military tests there experimental armors by giving them to the literal best soldiers and sending them against batman

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Рік тому +223

    I like the fact that, although we can debate on whether or not Punisher should be considered a hero or not, it’s clear that someone like Batman would undoubtably see Frank castle as a madman who needs to be stopped. it just makes a lot of sense judging by Batman‘s moral compass that he would feel this way.

    • @mrharvy100
      @mrharvy100 Рік тому +12

      He is pretty much a Jason Todd Red Hood in his eyes and we already knows he doesn’t tolerate that.

    • @bimates2690
      @bimates2690 Рік тому +35

      Nah, he's better than a hero. Dude actually removes POS of the earth. Not try to "rehabilitate" them (actual serious crimes. Not petty ones). Like the time he beat a human trafficker.

    • @detectivepenegrande
      @detectivepenegrande Рік тому +10

      Dude, you should read punisher max, it explains a lot of the character, in a monologue he himself tells how he has a nightmare in wich he kills every murderer, every rapist, every corrupt politician to then ask who let those people live in the first place, to wich he points the gun to the average guy and he wakes up as he feels the recoil.

    • @ColdNorth0628
      @ColdNorth0628 Рік тому +15

      @@bimates2690 which can only leave behind a power vacuum.
      You need to understand what punisher does is short term and can only make escalation an answer. It does not dispell them, only weeds the weaker ones out.
      To say he is better also seems to forget that he himself would kill anyone for any reason, big or small.

    • @TheMorbidlySane
      @TheMorbidlySane Рік тому +19

      Moral compass? Batman is a violent narcissist that uses trauma to justify his actions. Dude beats criminals within an inch of their life and throws them in Arkham.. A place where villains escape on the daily. And he knows this. There is no way he doesn't with all the info he has at his disposal. He does this so he can keep up the charade. Ffs how long has he been batman yet, Gotham is still a cesspool of crime? He's a billionaire playboy and what does he do? Does he use he wealth to fix his beloved city? No, he spends money of high tech vehicles and secret bases so he can dress up and beat dudes up while dressed as a bat. Batman IS a villain. Or at the very least criminally insane.

  • @japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657
    @japanesepokemoncardsbuydir9657 4 місяці тому +15

    Punisher is NOT just a brawler. Not Batman level but not a pub drunk either.

  • @TheKeefeStone
    @TheKeefeStone Рік тому +218

    Sure, Castle murders bad people, but Batman IS a Direct accomplice of Joker. He chooses not to cripple him, put him in a chair forever, or make him a quadriplegic, or take care of him permanently. Nope, instead he chooses to allow the psychopath who is also a master Houdini to continue killing.

    • @bryanwoods3373
      @bryanwoods3373 Рік тому +37

      He does that by letting the judicial system do its job. Faith in the system is the only way Gotham doesn't need a Batman. Everyone blames Batman like there are dozens of cops, judges, attornies, and psychiatrists that couldn't have done something. Even just deciding he's fit for trial and doesn't need to go to Arkham. Send him to Black gate to wait for the electric chair. Some cop or former victim assassinate him anywhere. They'd probably get found not guilty.

    • @deewatsoon6036
      @deewatsoon6036 Рік тому +7

      Joker in 1989, Batman Beyond, and Arkham Asylum very unlucky...

    • @deewatsoon6036
      @deewatsoon6036 Рік тому +6

      Michael Keaton's Batman didn't make that mistake...

    • @immortalfrieza
      @immortalfrieza Рік тому +31

      @@bryanwoods3373 After the dozenth time the judicial system fails to have The Joker executed for his crimes and/or fails to effectively incarcerate him, it very much does become Batman's fault.

    • @manojsinghkathait9551
      @manojsinghkathait9551 Рік тому +23

      ​@@immortalfriezadoesn't Batman have high influence , fame, money and power huh? And he has the capacity to improve the laws and Judicial system. Batman is the reason why Gotham is suffering from crime and only if Batman used it's powers it will be a lot more different.
      Batman has everything on his side but he still decides to go full mode to make plans of "how to defeat your own friends" And when it comes to joker he be like "oh shit i can't kill you because of my code which is stupid as fuck and resulted in you killing many people"

  • @TOden4
    @TOden4 Рік тому +206

    Ya know the whole Joker/Batman love story has been going on for far too long. Can they move away from the Joker for at least 10 years and let some other characters shine?

    • @Theprimaryfocus
      @Theprimaryfocus Рік тому +29

      I've been saying this for years

    • @Snakeskin94
      @Snakeskin94 Рік тому +28

      I would be so ok if they killed off Joker for a while

    • @bimates2690
      @bimates2690 Рік тому +6

      ​​@@Theprimaryfocus Your username essentially sums up all the drama that could've been avoided if he did.

    • @alexsolomon8127
      @alexsolomon8127 Рік тому +8

      @@Snakeskin94 the problem with killing off the Joker is canon has proven time and again that the universe abhors a vaccum. So if one Joker dies, another will rise. the freaking 5th dimensional imps will find an excuse. (noone can convince me the whole "ride down from high orbit with pinpoint accuracy using my standard costume and my UNDERWEAR as a heat shield" during the failsafe storyline was anything other than bat-mite bending the rules of physics for his "favorite" But.....there are ways to work around that. Once upon a time, DC's tangent line had a HEROIC Joker. what if someone delibrately created a non-homicidal verison of him, then killed the original off/forced him into retirement? there could literally be a magic ritual ala Zatanna/bat Mite himself after he loses a bet to transfer Joker's plot armor to someone else..and Joker realizes that without it, some cop or nameless nobody is just going to SHOOT his ass the next time he leaves his cell. Can't have that. Can't be killed by ANYONE other than the Bat. So he'll wait it out for a few years. He knows THEY will get bored of "all mischief, no malice" soon enough.

    • @johnfisher9692
      @johnfisher9692 Рік тому +19

      I agree, Joker in not just a criminal anymore, He is now a mass murdering terrorist and if Batman continues to protect him at the expense of innocent victims, he is an accessory to all Jokers crimes and warrants should go out for his arrest.

  • @fooliecoolie5284
    @fooliecoolie5284 4 місяці тому +10

    Punisher is just doing what batman's too afraid to do, actually getting rid of the criminal instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again.

    • @genjicrow
      @genjicrow 4 місяці тому +2

      Thats the point, Joker want to break Batman code while Punisher doesnt give a shit and in his eyes, Joker is a criminal he blast everyday.

    • @judesheckelberg5135
      @judesheckelberg5135 3 місяці тому +2

      Bruce Wayne needs Batman more than Gotham.

  • @indumatipngtuber2790
    @indumatipngtuber2790 Рік тому +57

    "We in the Gotham PD can't give The Joker the Electric Chair, because DC needs to sell more comic books!"

    • @NhBleker
      @NhBleker Рік тому +5

      I like how in recent decades that DC has at least tried, and somewhat succeeding, in showing a good reason as to not kill The Joker as with Injustice Superman, Batman Who Laughs, Three Jokers, and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, that whoever takes out Joker will be the next Joker, or something worse than the Joker ever was.

    • @armandoventura9043
      @armandoventura9043 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, and the worst thing is that they leave more interesting villains like Bane, Two-Face, Mr Freeze or the Court of Owls aside just because they want to push the Joker to sell more

  • @hardyhardyha5767
    @hardyhardyha5767 Рік тому +25

    Imagine what would happen if the people of Gotham found out that Batman stopped Castle from killing the Joker. He absolutely didn't need to save the Joker here but he did so anyway. The people of Gotham would hang up with his own cape.

  • @WebbedManiac
    @WebbedManiac 4 місяці тому +19

    Joker wasn't scared of the Punisher because he doesn't have a moral code, it's because he wants to be remembered.
    Take Injustice for example, Joker corrupted Superman and Superman took over the world. Joker may have died, but he would forever be known as the guy who changed the world. He made his mark on the world and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
    That's why he's scared here. If he dies to Frank, then he's just another criminal the Punisher gunned down. He's not special, he didn't do anything life changing. He's nothing, nobody. He dies as another common thug, just another name in the long list of Frank's victims.
    And that's what terrifies him beyond belief.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 3 місяці тому +5

      So he doesn't want to die at the hands of someone who will later say "for me it was Tuesday."

    • @WebbedManiac
      @WebbedManiac 3 місяці тому

      @@zerrodefex Exactly. That's why Batman is so important to him because he does not kill no matter what.

  • @judesheckelberg5135
    @judesheckelberg5135 3 місяці тому +3

    The Punisher is definitely NOT just a "brawler"...

  • @VincentMcmanus.
    @VincentMcmanus. Рік тому +79

    Wait, Frank, just a brawler? No. Absolutely not.
    We've seen Batman get injured by untrained brawlers. Frank is not untrained. Frank has been trained, and can fight exceptionally well. This part of the comic really bugs me.

    • @wallsterrence
      @wallsterrence Рік тому +11

      Yea it bugs me too frank is great h2h

    • @j-sant-animations8105
      @j-sant-animations8105 Рік тому +4

      They probably nerfed the hell out of him for batman to stand a chance.

    • @VincentMcmanus.
      @VincentMcmanus. Рік тому +9

      @j-sant-animations8105 seems like that's how Batman comics are all written these days. They nerf anyone fighting against him, but buff Batman himself. Batman has the strongest plot armor in all of comics because the writers say so. It's like they're scared of writing him as having any kind of limitations or weaknesses.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +2

      ​@@j-sant-animations8105dawg batman would molest the punisher if he wanted to 💀

    • @KamenRider1
      @KamenRider1 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@wallsterrence People forget he's a Marine and they have their own (comprehensive) Martial Arts program.

  • @weskintime4177
    @weskintime4177 Рік тому +38

    I’m tired of the stories showing Batman as a dumbass. I want more like the time he just let Joker die and went to save Harley Quinn (who was trying to kinda start anew at the time I think) and Joker just blew up.

    • @flying1dead155
      @flying1dead155 Рік тому +2

      I've always had a theory Harley was a victim of jokers chemical expertise . My evidence bieng from the 90s cartoon Harley and the victims both have yellow cat eyes and teeth .
      And a wide smile . I think the make up she uses is laced because the cartoon is kinda based on the 89 movie and joker tainted beauty supplies and thats why batman was so quick to trust her . Because he knows that deep down she cant live with what she did and needs to atone and at the same time own that persona and also at this point the chemical damage is permant but not so serve that shes a unrealable family member 🤔

  • @troydelk2047
    @troydelk2047 5 місяців тому +7

    Frank is highly trained special forces soldier one of the best hand to hand combat

  • @deliciouswaffleong
    @deliciouswaffleong 9 місяців тому +6

    Punisher doesn’t fuck around

  • @davidjecmenek8943
    @davidjecmenek8943 4 місяці тому +4

    Punisher was never before "just a brawler".

  • @ElMizMike
    @ElMizMike Місяць тому +2

    I like how Punisher criticizes Batman for letting the Joker go and not trying to kill him, when he couldn't even kill Jigsaw when he tried.

  • @yarukay5749
    @yarukay5749 3 місяці тому +3

    how sweet of batman to protect gothams criminals from the punisher

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 3 місяці тому +4

    "He is just a brawler, pure rage and brute strength." Tell me this was written by a Batman fanboy without telling me it was written by a Batman fanboy...
    Punisher's one of the few characters who plans and plans and plans almost as much as Batman, he just does so with lethal intent.

    • @atomic747
      @atomic747 3 місяці тому

      I mean..does punisher know other fighting techniques aside from when he was in the marines?

    • @Kingsaxxy3872
      @Kingsaxxy3872 2 місяці тому +1

      @@atomic747 Think he actually knows ninjutsu, shorin ryu, chin-na, and hwa rang do.
      So outside of military training he’s good in other h2h techniques, doesn’t help that he normally goes against people better than him tho.

  • @LordOmnissiah
    @LordOmnissiah Рік тому +26

    Can someone please tell me why they don’t just lobotomize Joker already like they did in that one episode of Justice League? It made him sane in that timeline!

    • @TaraD1999
      @TaraD1999 Рік тому +8

      Because it wouldn’t make for a good comic. Plus they did it once why again

    • @bryanwoods3373
      @bryanwoods3373 Рік тому +13

      That's the real answer. People keep blaming Batman, but Joker would already be dead in a more real world. He was supposed to die in his first appearance. No one truly stays dead in the comics.

    • @WayneDave195
      @WayneDave195 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bryanwoods3373 People are absolutely right to blame Batman. Batman saved the Joker when he was supposed to have the death penalty by electric chair.

  • @GnosisZX
    @GnosisZX 8 місяців тому +4

    What I love about punisher is he instills fear with just his actions no bat costume and theatrics required

  • @BnT904Loyal
    @BnT904Loyal 4 місяці тому +4

    Imagine a bunch of goons catching Castle on his way out of Gotham, and thinking he's a easy mark😂

  • @ivandark95
    @ivandark95 4 місяці тому +5

    Joker : the one who laughs batman
    Joker : the one who fear punisher

  • @tarn1135
    @tarn1135 4 місяці тому +3

    My absolute favorite Punisher moment was way back in a little know Marvel UK comic called Death’s Head 2 issue 4 (I think). In the the opening pages you see an apocalyptic earth where this big bad named Charnel was attacking Spider-Man, the Punisher, and a few others. I don’t remember exactly what the heroes had that this bad guy wanted (probably the only thing that could defeat him) anyhow Frank had it and Charnel said “Give it to me and I’ll make your death quick and painless.” and Frank’s reply was to throw it to someone else so they could get away with Frank turning back with just a knife saying through a smile “What were you saying about pain?”

  • @jimmyju76
    @jimmyju76 Рік тому +16

    left out the part where Frank made the Joker pee his pantes 😂😂

  • @bgt2848
    @bgt2848 4 місяці тому +4

    Batman - “ this is not how we handle things in Gotham”
    Punisher - “no shit that’s why it’s a shit hole”

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace Рік тому +9

    Oh boy, two plot armours against each other.
    **deadpan** How thrilling

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +2

      People when I tell them all characters in fiction have plot armor:😭

  • @FerretJohn
    @FerretJohn 4 місяці тому +3

    While Punisher rarely engages in hand-to-hand he isn't "just a brawler", he has extensive training in military close combat. True, he is no match for Batman, but he can fight without guns.

    • @Kingsaxxy3872
      @Kingsaxxy3872 2 місяці тому +2

      Hell Punisher is actually skilled in martial arts even ninjutsu apparently, he just so rarely uses it no one knows he does it.

  • @thewho2482
    @thewho2482 Рік тому +29

    Its really easy to kill batman. Aim for that mouth

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому

      He literally has a mouth guard also he's dodged bullets from deadshot

    • @thewho2482
      @thewho2482 Рік тому +6

      @D-class9341 bullet mouth guard that stops all bullets. And has the speed to dodge bullets. The plot of amor get bigger and bigger all the time

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +2

      @@thewho2482 as if frank didn't literally somehow beat everyone in marvel

    • @thewho2482
      @thewho2482 Рік тому +3

      @D-class9341 my problem is the writing with batman. Yes, it's a comic. But dam some of the feats are a joke.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +1

      @@thewho2482 just don't read the garbage justice league stuff with constantly increasing stakes. Stick to the classic one off stories where batman is actually human

  • @joserendon6199
    @joserendon6199 10 місяців тому +5

    Batman will never let his only great love be hurt

  • @multigatawny5204
    @multigatawny5204 3 місяці тому +2

    Remember when back in the day DC and Marvel were doing a lot of crossovers?
    Good times

  • @nrgentertainmentartist8668
    @nrgentertainmentartist8668 4 місяці тому +3

    This Batman should have learned from Nolan's Batman: "I won't kill you Joker. But I don't have to save you."

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      No Batman never should someone to die. It's part of your moral code. The dude had your parents killed before your eyes,so he hated to see even a mass murderer die makes all sense.

  • @nicknick_nick
    @nicknick_nick 10 місяців тому +3

    Its such a pain to know of the existence of all of the stories where joker should've died but didn't

  • @changvasejarik62
    @changvasejarik62 3 місяці тому +1

    I do miss the days where even Joker had enough fear and Selfpreservation instincts to surrender when outgunned.

  • @inflameddrip180
    @inflameddrip180 3 місяці тому +3

    People forget Frank see's himself as a villian not even a anti-hero just a straight villian...
    ...if he sees a mugger he'll drop him dead without question as to why and its very clear in mutiple forms of media that he doesnt respect heroes who lock up criminals; with captain america being the only exception
    And he knows what he's doing is wrong which makes it even worse but further proves his point he is no hero he never was
    He is revenge incarnate he is:
    THE PUNISHER 💀
    he punishes people who he thinks deserves it, he is a villian he always was

  • @xelldincht4251
    @xelldincht4251 3 місяці тому +1

    Punisher and Jason sure would become best buddies

  • @christianponce4836
    @christianponce4836 Рік тому +53

    ngl i respect punisher alot more than batman

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +9

      I don't. Batman donates millions to charity and it's cannon that crime in Gotham has lowered

    • @Kratos0n
      @Kratos0n Рік тому +15

      @@D-class9341bah, that’s to feel better about himself and a way of easing the guilt of having the blood of all those innocent victims of the joker on his hands.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +4

      @@Kratos0n ot shouldn't be he's job to kill the joker. Notice how every time joker goes on trial he's never given the death penalty. Not to forget that it's canon that Batmans crusade has lowered the crime right by 60% and that's not counting his war on political corruption stopping multiple wars and saving countless lives

    • @Dr.Gaming98
      @Dr.Gaming98 Рік тому +11

      @@D-class9341Batman has saved joker from being killed MULTIPLE times, including by the electric chair. He was even his attorney once. Batman is VERY MUCH an accomplice of the jokers murders at this point.

    • @D-class9341
      @D-class9341 Рік тому +1

      @@Dr.Gaming98 I don't know which comics your reading since in current canon he has never done that

  • @plasmahandoku1073
    @plasmahandoku1073 11 місяців тому +2

    These are one of the few times Joker was actually scared. Other than the time when he tried to play a prank on Superman he took it serious where it wasn't even fun for the Joker. Punisher on the other hand is the direct opposite of what Batman's code is and the moment Joker saw this he was shitting himself. If Batman never intervened he would have been a dead man.

  • @AP-vi4cj
    @AP-vi4cj 22 дні тому +1

    Joker doesn't fear dying; he fears dying for nothing. If Batman kills Joker, the Joker wins because he will just be a victim for society, but if the Punisher kills him, he will just be another low-life thug that The Punisher wiped from the streets.

  • @The-Spanish-Inquisition490
    @The-Spanish-Inquisition490 4 місяці тому +2

    The Punisher not a brawler. He knows every martail art just like Batman only Punisher wasnt trained by the League of Assassin's like Batman.
    Never forget that Punisher has beaten DareDevil on multiple occasions, who is equal to Batman, and Punisher has no qualms or morals with killing holding him back.

  • @NerdAlert8910
    @NerdAlert8910 3 місяці тому +1

    Punisher in Red Hood would get along really well.

  • @gamemasternintendoo
    @gamemasternintendoo Рік тому +16

    And it’s stuff like this that makes me hate the whole superhero genre. You have villains like the joker who kill people just for the sick and twisted pleasure they get out of it, yet instead of putting him down like the rabid dog he is, Batman continues to lock him up in a facility that is not able To contain someone like the joker. I mean seriously!!! Where are the geniuses of the DC universe? Get a couple of them together, get them to design an escape proof prison!!! Hell!!! Get Superman to use the phantom zone generator on the worst criminals like the Joker. Villains who are Irredeemable

  • @StudioPluche
    @StudioPluche Рік тому +14

    Quite difficult not to side with Punisher on this one.

  • @joebob7998
    @joebob7998 6 місяців тому +3

    When I heard jigsaw I just thought tobin bell LOL

  • @auzzie4435
    @auzzie4435 10 місяців тому +10

    This shows Batman is a coward

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      No true heroes don't kill.Even Joker's life is sacred.

  • @JoJoDoe1997
    @JoJoDoe1997 Рік тому +5

    If i recall corectly theres a run of punisher were he admits that hes "relationship" whit jigsaw aint mutch diferent than the one of batman and joker

  • @reinxraidenchannel9807
    @reinxraidenchannel9807 Рік тому +11

    Let's be honest, when it comes to Batman not killing Joker, it is fucking terrible and makes no sense at all.

  • @Warhawkx
    @Warhawkx 3 місяці тому +1

    Seeing the Joker's fear is priceless.

  • @WayFinder42
    @WayFinder42 3 місяці тому +1

    This feels like a commentary by the writer about a lot of the awful writing of "morality" in Batman stories... and they're totally right

  • @hot_soup4319
    @hot_soup4319 Рік тому +9

    Mfers be like "Batman should kill Joker already" like, what's literally stopping anyone else though considering Batman literally won't? Like you just just wait until Bats is preoccupied with something and just snipe Joker from a rooftop. Hell Joker makes a big show outta everything, you're telling me no one civilian owns a gun in Gotham and is willing to shoot Joker during a monologue? Red Hood almost did it but insisted on making a show out of it and luring Batman to him, coulda shot the J-man from square 1. Joker's been arrested countless times, not one cop is willing to risk prison or getting fired to just shoot a literal terrorist?
    Why doesn't Batman kill Joker? Iunno probably for the same reason no one else does.

    • @glitchedoom
      @glitchedoom 4 місяці тому +2

      I just want to scream "because then there wouldn't be a story" to all the comments like that.

    • @hainleysimpson1507
      @hainleysimpson1507 4 місяці тому +1

      The fuck? That's not true. If the writer can't come up with new interesting things then the writer is a coward or not that good at creating original ideas. ​@@glitchedoom

    • @seniorprrotm8163
      @seniorprrotm8163 3 місяці тому

      The in universe explanation it's because most people in Gotham including villains know that Joker is coming back eventually, and they don't wanna have him coming for them when he does
      When it comes to heroes, they usually leave it to Batman because it either isn't their city, they feel like Batman needs it, or Batman stops them to save Joker, the one time he didn't was because Harley made a situation where he had to choose between saving Joker's life of hers

  • @nihilsnake4017
    @nihilsnake4017 Рік тому +7

    I remember when I did that to the Joker (I am literally The Punisher)

    • @Mae_Dastardly
      @Mae_Dastardly Рік тому +6

      No you're not rigby! Raccoons can't be the punisher dude they're not big enough

  • @lonestarwolfentertainment7184
    @lonestarwolfentertainment7184 3 місяці тому

    The thing about the Joker is that he doesn’t want to be killed by anyone EXCEPT Batman (and sometimes Superman), he wants to be the one to make the Superhero break their No Killing Rule, any other type of death would be unsatisfying.

  • @tarn1135
    @tarn1135 4 місяці тому

    Ah the days when the major comic companies actually had crossover limited series events.

  • @NeoRazgriz
    @NeoRazgriz 4 місяці тому +2

    Ironically, the dumb mind games Joker likes to play with people do NOT work on Castle. Castle KNOWS he is a killer and doesn’t care or apologize for it; because his results speak for themselves.
    Punisher had better results versus the Joker after only 1 fight; compared to the countless encounters Batman had with the Joker. How necessary IS Batman since his methods against the most vile criminals always seem ineffective? They always escape and do more harm to others with no resolution (no justice or punishment)

  • @itlog3722
    @itlog3722 Рік тому +23

    Batman is such a Joker simp.

  • @GenerationX1984
    @GenerationX1984 4 місяці тому

    The 1990s Spider-Man cartoon on Fox Kids is the first place I ever saw The Punisher. This was before I knew about the 1989 Punisher film and the 2004 Punisher wasn't even out yet.

  • @M613M
    @M613M Рік тому +5

    Whats with all the random comments of people that have never heard of a crossover? Just wait until they find out that Superman and Wonder Woman held Mjolnir...

  • @aliceslab
    @aliceslab 3 місяці тому +1

    Unlike Batman, he's a good person because a bad person would let bad people keep doing bad things .

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      No he a insane man and a cold blooded murderer. Life is precisou and nobody have the right to decide who lives or who die.

    • @aliceslab
      @aliceslab Місяць тому

      @EvandroACruz it is because i view all life as sacred that allowing others to take life is wrong.
      Punisher isnt murdering innocent people, innocent people would get murdered however if the bad guys basically are never allowed to face consequences

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      @@aliceslab Bad guys always face the consequences for your crimes usually at least in comics.

    • @aliceslab
      @aliceslab Місяць тому

      @EvandroACruz but when it comes to batman he faces the same villains multiple times because they just break out in one way or another.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      @@aliceslab Every Superhero face the same problem. Supermna fightas with Zod,Brainiac and Mongul for decades ans all them are genocidal monsters. This is how superhero comcis works.

  • @illiteratearfi
    @illiteratearfi 3 місяці тому

    2:33 I just realized that this panel of Punisher looks exactly like the panel of Bruce from Batman Year One.

  • @NhBleker
    @NhBleker Рік тому +1

    I wish a crossover like this was possible nowadays as a result of Injustice and the dark multiverse existing in DC comics that gives us Injustice Superman, and The Grim Knight who are what Frank Castle is, but who didn’t stop and became worse monsters than those they were fighting against. It be interested to see someone like The Punisher confront these individuals, where it be like looking into a mirror and it challenging him on where does he cross the line to not become like these twisted individuals, or if what those like Batman, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and etc have actual substance in why they don’t like like he does.

  • @javiersantanaaviles5885
    @javiersantanaaviles5885 29 днів тому

    The Joker doesn´t want to joke around with The Punisher

  • @2011maxik
    @2011maxik 4 місяці тому +1

    As much as Batman is my fave hero, Punisher would be more effective at reducing crime in Gotham than him

  • @JRGProjects
    @JRGProjects 4 місяці тому +1

    If Joker faced Daredevil, Moon Knight or Scarlet Spider he wouldn't make it.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      Moon Knight is against kill usually too. He just are more violent.

  • @davidsavage5630
    @davidsavage5630 4 місяці тому +1

    I would like to see Heath Ledger's version of Joker in this scenario. I think he was smart enough and fearless enough that if he had just enough heads-up on what Punisher was all about he could have gotten into his head too. Not saying Punisher wouldn't still kill on sight and that he wouldn't be a harder nut to crack than Batman....just that THAT Joker wouldn't make it so easy. He'd have something up his sleeve that muddied the water enough and confused Frank enough that he'd still be a worthy adversary. He'd have to KNOW beforehand that Frank absolutely will shoot him dead with no hesitation though. Give him that and he'd figure something out..

  • @JohnBerry-q1h
    @JohnBerry-q1h 4 місяці тому

    The Punisher would steal Joker’s acid-squirting boutonnière, and use it against him. Same for the handshake joy buzzer.

  • @elikyiael8740
    @elikyiael8740 Рік тому +1

    the joker don't give a damn about dying, he basically dies in every major turning points, evil justice league and all that

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 Рік тому +3

      Joker hates dying a meaningless death, he wants batman to kill him to break him but this wouldnt work on Frank. Frank is the perfect counter to joker

  • @diglettunnel.kaneko
    @diglettunnel.kaneko Рік тому +4

    He needs joker so he can be the worlds greatest detective
    Otherwise what will he detect

  • @Cosmic_DBD
    @Cosmic_DBD 3 місяці тому

    3:40 reminds me of that one quest in the Witcher 3 lmao

  • @CalculusIsFun1
    @CalculusIsFun1 5 місяців тому

    If Punisher was in Gotham, either Sinestro or Atrocitus (or both) would have a powerful new recruit.

  • @GENTSEVE101
    @GENTSEVE101 3 місяці тому

    Batman and The Punisher are my two favorite comic characters, the experience of reading both is very different, so expectations are different. I will say though that every time i see a version of batman that goes too far dark, that gets these airs and pretentions that batman should be just a grimdark street vigilante while forgetting that he is also a superhero who kids irl look up to, i just think to myself, old frank clowns little bruce at this stuff, 24/7

  • @langbo9999
    @langbo9999 3 місяці тому

    Batman is the man who didn't lost hope in Humanity But The punisher did.

  • @Meldrick-jv7sy
    @Meldrick-jv7sy 4 місяці тому +2

    I understand Batman doesn't want to kill Joker.
    But the fact he went out of his way, to stop someone else from doing it. Is baffling to me.

    • @seniorprrotm8163
      @seniorprrotm8163 3 місяці тому

      He usually does that.
      A LOT.
      The one time he didn't was because Harley forced a situation where he had to choose between saving Joker or her

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      Because he don't wanna see somebody dies.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz Місяць тому

      @@seniorprrotm8163 In this case he just did that because he knew that Joker would manage to save himself.

  • @ericwisniewski5651
    @ericwisniewski5651 4 місяці тому

    If punisher and batman formed a team of team work they coukd end crime in every city near

  • @RicklessSanchez
    @RicklessSanchez 2 місяці тому

    Now that true revenge.

  • @c.m.cameraman7918
    @c.m.cameraman7918 4 місяці тому

    Also it appears Frank hasn't learned his lesson the last time he tango'd with Batman.

  • @Dragon66898
    @Dragon66898 Рік тому +1

    Is this from the cannon crossover the two series had.

  • @channely.z.h
    @channely.z.h 6 місяців тому

    Joker:Change Partners(Arch-Enemies) and Dance!
    Later:Punisher would give the "therapy" to Joker but Batman Stops.

  • @causewecanthavenicethings
    @causewecanthavenicethings 4 місяці тому

    we need animated movie about this

  • @Ayocassofficial
    @Ayocassofficial 3 місяці тому

    Jigsaw? The guy on the tricycle?