IUPAC Nomenclature of Alkenes and Alkynes

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  • @callanreynolds2405
    @callanreynolds2405 День тому

    Just a note for those watching that in recent years, that "Preferred IUPAC Name" (PIN) has changed some of the IUPAC naming conventions to further limit ambiguity about how the molecules are named.
    For example, 1-pentanol is now pentan-1-ol. Similarly, 3-penten-1-ol would be called pent-3-en-1-ol.

  • @kevinkaria7057
    @kevinkaria7057 3 роки тому +17

    4:43 Professor Dave I think that the higher priority would be given to a double bond rather than a triple bond while naming a compound with a double bond and a triple bond at the same position from either side. Please solve my ambiguity! Also your teaching style is awesome and far better than the IIT JEE tutions here in India!

    • @alitornado2
      @alitornado2 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah dude! The priority goes to the double bond first! Then comes triple bond and then single bond!

    • @CabbageSandwich
      @CabbageSandwich 3 роки тому +4

      @@alitornado2
      The correct answer is both.
      This video is slightly dated on its naming conventions.
      With some new IUPAC conventions since this video came out 7 years ago, we treat the en and yne suffixs the same way he treats the alcohol suffix in this video, except stacked in the same name, ill show you below.
      Additionally because of this change, we don't use "#-(carbons)(ene)" anymore. e.g "3-ethene"
      If we want to specify the position of a double bond in ethene, we input a space into the name, for instance, "2-chloro eth-1-ene". This also allows us to use stereochemistry modifiers E and Z to signify cis and trans double or triple bonds like this, "3-chloro pent-1(Z)-yne", a 5 carbon chain with a chlorine on the third carbon, and that has a bent first carbon on a triple bond at the number 1 carbon.
      To answer your question though.
      An actual name of a six carbon chain with a double and triple bond on the ends is "hex-1(E/Z)-en-6(E/Z)-yne". Where the E/Z considers the stereochemistry of the bond *e.g whether the first/last carbon is on the same side or opposite side from carbon #3 / #4 respectively.
      You can consult some various sources for this on the new Blue Book rules but I used this one.
      www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/02/14/table-of-functional-group-priorities-for-nomenclature/

    • @nayachi341
      @nayachi341 2 роки тому +1

      @@CabbageSandwich hello, i have a query regarding the same, if a triple bond is closer than the double bond, then from which way the numbering should start?

    • @CabbageSandwich
      @CabbageSandwich 2 роки тому +1

      IUPAC convention is that naming would start from the end closer to the triple bond. depending on exactly what you mean here.

    • @gbadebosamson8423
      @gbadebosamson8423 6 місяців тому +1

      I think double bound should be given higher priority .I just watch a video where it was given

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    just remember guys that the priority order for lowest occurance and in the selection of the principal carbon chain is Functional group (like OH, COOH, etc...) > unsaturated bond (double and triple bond)> Longest carbon chain (number of carbon atoms) > substituent groups (like F, Cl, Br, I, methyl, ethyl, etc...)

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  • @minimahalakshmi5984
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    4:00 Why is it 6-fluoro-3-heptyne? Why not 2-fluoro-4-heptyne?

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 3 роки тому +1

    Now this has two longest carbon chains so why isn't this 5-chloro-4-methyl-3-hepten-3-ethanol?(Or 5-chloro-3-ethaanol-4-methyl-3heptene)?

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  • @nejaahalcyon
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    I would have a question :
    in the example at 4:10 what makes us choose the top path? Is there a rule about chosing a path that minimize the number of bonds in the substituants?
    With the same example taking the lower path would mean that the group would be 3 bonds long while taking the top one makes a 2 bond group. Am I extrapolating this correctly?
    Or maybe there is a rule that state that family modifiers must be attached to the main chain, forcing to choose the path with the hydroxyl group.
    In case the bottom path is valid what would be the name of this thing?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  4 роки тому +2

      The parent chain must contain the hydroxyl group, it's the highest priority group.

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  • @abdullahrai9653
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    @6:15 Why don't we use the "ene" at the End instead of alcohol ? If the Alcohol Group Takes Priority then shouldn't it be First?
    i.e, 5-chloro-3-ethyl-4-methyl-3-heptanol-3-ene

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  8 років тому +2

      +Abdullah Rai hydroxyls take priority over alkenes and alkynes both in terms of numbering the carbon chain and naming the molecule, so the ol has to go at the end rather than the ene. priority will mean that it is the last thing that is named, implying that it is the functional group that most strongly contributes to the nature and reactivity of the molecule.

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    • @nursyazwani245
      @nursyazwani245 8 років тому

      ohh, but can we name the alcohol group as hydroxyl group? it will become 5-chloro-3-ethyl-1-hydroxyl-4-methyl-3-heptene ?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  8 років тому

      nope, the hydroxyl is the most relevant functional group on the molecule so it will modify the suffix! we need the "ol" at the end.

    • @nursyazwani245
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  • @medicalanimal1479
    @medicalanimal1479 5 років тому +1

    4:46 If you took the two Carbon atoms below the Hydroxyl group for the main chain, the main chain would also be made up of 7 carbon atoms. Why is one taken over the other as a main chain? 🤔

    • @samanthagalbo3528
      @samanthagalbo3528 5 років тому +3

      Hydroxyl groups are the biggest naming priority in this molecule, so the hydroxyl group needs to be on the main chain!

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  • @Lucashallal
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    What if there are multiple tied longest carbon chains like at 4:28?

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  • @walkietalkies7771
    @walkietalkies7771 Місяць тому +1

    can we name the last example as:
    5-chloro-3-ethyl-4-methylhept-3-ene-1-ol

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  • @dieselguitar1440
    @dieselguitar1440 4 роки тому

    Other sources are saying that alkenes and alkynes have the same priority but priority is given to alkenes for alphabetization in the event of a tie. I may have misread them.

  • @sammo_sez
    @sammo_sez 4 роки тому

    Prof Dave, @6:22, because of the double bond, would we be expected to write this as
    cis-5-chloro-3-ethyl-4-methyl-hepten-1-ol? or is there a reason we don't need to identify the cis/trans conformation?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
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      so this would require E/Z nomenclature, i just haven't covered yet at this point in the series, there's another tutorial on that

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  • @Knolittle-04
    @Knolittle-04 11 місяців тому

    Regarding to that 1 on pente-1-nol in your next video of cyclic compounds you said it is implied that the hydroxyl group is on carbon1 thereby not writing the 1 on the final answer but here you wrote it there may i get to understand why?is it because that one was a cyclic and this one isn't....am confused now about numbering compounds with functional groups 😭

  • @steffaniesainato5322
    @steffaniesainato5322 6 років тому +1

    Quick question. In the Alkene example you labled the substituent double bond 1-1-pentene. How come on this one it is not 3-3-3-heptyne, and it's just 3-heptyne?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  6 років тому +1

      that's an L for the end of methyl! it's just 1-pentene. we need just one number to indicate the location of the pi bond(s).

    • @steffaniesainato5322
      @steffaniesainato5322 6 років тому

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    @nkonajoelafor4016 3 роки тому

    You are best prof please sir I wish to ask if it's hept-3-yne or 3-heptene I love you sir God bless you

  • @yasyasmarangoz3577
    @yasyasmarangoz3577 3 роки тому

    4:28 why the upper one?
    Why not the one under it?

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    @sweetzcv9373 4 роки тому

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    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  4 роки тому +2

      an OH is a hydroxyl group, and a molecule with a hydroxyl group is called an alcohol

    • @sweetzcv9373
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  • @YandreYak
    @YandreYak 5 місяців тому

    the -ane -ene -yne suffixes in phonetical languages are somewhat mixed up. Alkan Alken Alkin (respec.) is what it would sound like in slavic forms and would not directly correspond to EN pronunciation.
    also, different languages (non-roman) would have the alphabetical order slightly altered , so I guess IUPAC also corresponds to language conversion or needs to be adjusted to its EN form

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    @sachinkumar9868 8 років тому +4

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  • @ninjanahja8421
    @ninjanahja8421 3 роки тому

    Love your work man! But our professor told us Alkynes have the lowest priority..

  • @sammo_sez
    @sammo_sez 4 роки тому

    Me gets in front of the class: "its 5-chloro-3-ethyllll*mumblemumblemumble*-ol
    Teacher: ........
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  • @mohammedabdullahomer5513
    @mohammedabdullahomer5513 6 років тому

    @ProfessorDaveExplains, at 2:00 in the video, can't we name it as 4,4 - dimethyl - pent - 1 - ene instead ? BTW Great Help!!!!

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  • @tracyscanlon4587
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  • @0oYCRo0
    @0oYCRo0 6 років тому +1

    Hi Prof. Dave. I wanted to ask, can we start by numbering the chain from the carbon that's below the alcohol (The one you called 3-ethyl), instead of the one that's right next to it?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  6 років тому +2

      nope! longest carbon chain must contain the hydroxyl group.

    • @stan9095
      @stan9095 6 років тому

      Glad someone already asked this question. So in that case location of the hydroxyl constinutent indicates the main carbon chain? Sweet

    • @asdfzxcv4176
      @asdfzxcv4176 2 роки тому

      hey man thanks for asking it

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    @englishwithshehryar9730 8 років тому +1

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  • @aubreymacasinag1340
    @aubreymacasinag1340 3 роки тому

    Sir is it still necessary that you will put 1 before pentene?

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  • @momedsy
    @momedsy Рік тому

    très bonne explication merci beaucoup

  • @qoxx
    @qoxx 3 роки тому +1

    5:51
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  • @knarfamoranemix6030
    @knarfamoranemix6030 4 роки тому +1

    What if there is more than one carbon chain with the maximum length ? In the last example there are 2 of length 7 that would lead to different names.

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  • @tj7935
    @tj7935 4 роки тому

    I don't understand why you identify the longest carbon chain starting with the end that had the hydroxyl group and not with the one that ends in a carbon. Both would have given you a 7 carbon molecule. Can you elaborate please?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  4 роки тому +2

      have to number so as to give hydroxyl occurring soonest, it takes priority

  • @harishsasankarm9428
    @harishsasankarm9428 4 роки тому

    Why did you use the dash and hash (whatever it is) in place of actual methyl line representing the Methyls in the first formula of Alkenes?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  4 роки тому

      check out the first tutorial in this organic chemistry playlist, it explains the dash and wedge notation

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  • @ceciliaalicona1704
    @ceciliaalicona1704 6 років тому

    I had a problem on a test that I didn't understand when naming. The compound is 4-chloro-1-methyl-2-propylcyclohexane. Why does the count in counting the carbon chain starts with the methyl and not the chlorine? I thought since Chlorine not being a carbon chain would take priority in naming, then I would counts backwards making the propyl third and the methyl fourth. Could you explain why the priority. Thanks. Love watching your videos.

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  6 років тому

      so for cyclic compounds its totally different, check out my tutorial on IUPAC for cyclic compounds!

  • @davidkeyes3540
    @davidkeyes3540 2 роки тому

    I also wanted to ask-- why are we not including Z/E stereoisomerism in this IUPAC name?