@@TH-mb8io being content is different from being happy all the time. being content is just having an understanding of your living situations and life to know enough that things will be better if they get worse, not all of us have that luxury.
@A Google user Wait, so this shocks you? You abused your script and you ran out of your meds early and your freaking out because you can't get your script filled?
@A Google user go detox, they will taper you off most likely depending where you live or where your going . Benzo withdraw isn't fun. Can't take them daily if you gonna abuse them, because shit like this happens. Wish you well
I was heavily addicted to xanax from 2014-2018 and alcoholic from 2018-2021. Thank you God for changing my life! 5 years sober from xanax 2 years sober from alcohol 🙏
100% agree. i think if we knew our addiction and withdrawl was just as serious as coke,opiats, yatta yatta we wouldent have been addicted for so long. stay away from the devils drug
@Cantwait4summer the way to do it is with alot of cbd and\or thc edibles. Another form of benzo with a small dosage to taper off. With an anti seizure medication. And pure prayer. The first 3 days are the hardest. Get through that you'll start feeling "eh i can beat this". Im the biggest xanax addict. Plz trust me. I was on 6mgs a day. Yes 60mgs. 30 bars. Not no more in Jesus name. Well like down to 4-5 but graudually going down 💯💨🤙🙌🙌🙌
Cantwait4summer I didn’t get addicted I just bought about 50 bars as a one-off and kept eating them till I came out of a blackout being told and shown videos of myself being a zombie. My weakness is in binging not addiction
My doctor prescribed me 2mg Xanax a day. She said it would just be for 2-3 weeks until the anti-anxiety medication kicked in. She did not tell me the next 6 months of my life would be hell trying to quit. The panic attacks I got trying to quit were 10X worse than any panic attack that I had before.
Xanax is usually prescribed for it's almost instant anti-anxiety properties. It doesn't take a few weeks to start working. One pill is all it takes. They can even be taken during a panic attack and are commonly prescribed for that because they work so well. There are plenty of anti anxiety medications that do take a few weeks to work. Most are non Benzos though.
Same. The cure was worse than the ailment imo. Hardest withdrawals I ever had out of all the withdrawals was Xanax. Coming off each time I was usually in jail lol go figure. Glad I’m 15 years off from playing with psyche meds.
@@ianeugenechapman7975 correct, however normal doses of benzodiazepines in conjunction with other drugs or alcohol can cause respitory failure fairly quick. Dont use benzos, don't you wanna remember the fun you've had
I started doing drugs since my teenage, got addicted to opioid. Spent my whole life fighting opioid addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 4 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
@@26michaeluk bit of an exaggeration I suppose, at the start I was taking 1-2 then tolerance built up fast. Before you know it your missing days and weeks of your life. Scary fuckin stuff. I dunno how doctors can prescribe that poison to someone and sleep at night. Thanks for the kind wishes appreciate it man!
Multiple studies have been done where it's basically do "x" amount of exercise for this long and the amount of people who report positive effects are like 60%
I was out on adhd meds as a kid, and in order to counter the bad side effects, my parents and doctor put me on a bunch of SSRIs, primarily Zoloft. I don't take the ADHD meds anymore (they caused so much harm) but I can't get off Zoloft. If I go one 24 hours without it I'll have migraines and the worst nausea imaginable. If your kid is not performing well in school or hasn't been in a good mood, please consider making changes in their life and education rather than mess with the chemical composition of their brains, especially when they are still developing. The combination of these dangerous meds mixed with traumatic events have led me down an extremely dark path, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
I agree soo much man. 90's and 2000's doctors were handing that shit out like candy. It's way better to make other changes before messing with their developing brain chemistry. I hope life is good now man!
I got Xanax prescribed by a doctor for anxiety. I had never even heard of Xanax. Was fully hooked after the first bar. I did them for about 9 months. Most of that time was a complete blackout. Wrecked a car, lost a job, went to jail and even pissed the bed a time or two. So I decided to quit cold turkey. I went from have hundreds of milligrams in my system to zero. Was the worst 2 weeks of my life. Have never been so sick and literally thought I was gonna die. The irony is, I took them for anxiety and the addiction and all the bs that comes with it caused way more anxiety. I really can’t believe that doctors put people on that drug everyday.
I’m assuming you all are just joking around, but if not, Joe wouldn’t have anything to talk about, and him referring to things is what makes him so interesting to listen to. It does get redundant because while we watch often, most of his guests don’t.
I had a few years where panic attacks were killing me. They were so bad I lost control of motor functions. Tried Xanax twice and chose the panic attacks - that is one nightmare of a drug. Ultimately, going to the gym every morning and then swimming at night fixed me right up.
There is no doubt that benzodiazepines are bad…but I work out daily as well.. I still have major sensory panic attacks with extreme dizziness..actually they are getting worse..my BP is super low..so that’s being looked into.. Exercise is amazing..no question But it didn’t cure all for me..at least for anxiety Really there’s kinda nothing that works for some people…
I'm suffering greatly day 6 Xanax withdrawal. I feel insane, detached broke reality. Such weird insane stuff going on, I feel like I'm losing my mind. I thought I might be getting better but it's gotten worse the last couple days. Lots of panic attacks too. Praying this nightmare will end soon.
@@robertalust5466 benzos are the reason why the blood pressure is low. I experience that. I really wanna get off Xanax. Went from 3mg a day to 1,5mg 1,75 yesterday. I wish I could just wake up and my panic disorder disappears.
@@Topofthetopapex I hear you.. I wish mine would disappear too… It’s a tough existence to struggle with panic disorder..and all the tools learned in therapy can go right out the window in the middle of a severe attack…it’s why benzodiazepines really work as that rescue…but they aren’t good long term at all.. Good for you for tapering..that must be difficult My low BP is from really severe anemia.. Blood transfusions and iron transfusions can help with that..
I remember quitting Xanax my first week at college in 2013. I had taken adderal and Xanax every single day in high school as my doctor prescribed. I still remember withdrawing in my dorm room, forcing myself to go to the library to study, and literally hearing sounds and voices in my head in the quiet library. Took about 3 weeks to feel “normal” after 4 years of every day use. I would go on to substitute alcohol for the Xanax for the next 3 years until I quit drinking cold turkey too. That was much harder, took 5 months clean before I felt better and not in a mind fog. Sober life is boring but life gets boring as you get older anyway.
First off it depends on how much MG Xanax u were taking. I had a seizure taking 4-5 Xanax a day and decided to go cold turkey. The worse mistake ever. Xanax is a med where u NEED TO WEEN or taper off of. Even an ER doctor told me that. If you are just taking 1 mg it shouldn’t. 4-5 bars a day and cold turkey u will go into a seizure and the only way to counter that is take a bar and u will snap out of it.
I was on Xanax for almost 15 years. I got off of it in 2020 best thing I've done in my life. At some point you have to realize it's easier to deal with anxiety than addiction
Mark D dude it’s not like that at all...10x the flu? Have you ever had the flu? Benzo withdrawal is worse than the flu and certainly much worse than opiate withdrawal.
Bullshit. I sat in jail for 30 days due to a bar fight coming off Xanax 2mg and booze been taking it everyday for 2 to 3 years at 30 years old. 7 days in i was feeling normal again. Unless you are a weak minded fuck you are not dying.
@@michaelcapo5512 I took 10mg of zanax a day for 20 years at 30 years old and got off of it in 24 hours, no problem. yall are just weak little people and I'm alpha AF!
Me to friend. Was clean for four years until two Weeks ago. Now I'm 2 Days clean and feel like Hell. Guess my brain had forgotten the withdrawel from these little suckers. It's torture.
The issue with severe depression and anxiety is that when people tell you to do exercise you don’t have the confidence or motivation to do so and the longer it goes on the worse it gets and the harder it is to do that, feels like you’re stuck in a deep hole and it just keeps getting deeper
idk you but i love you. it’s hard to not beat yourself up about that stuff but don’t let em have access to your emotions like that. People say that stuff to try to get a reaction out of you.. i’ve also been in that severe depressive state as well I was addicted to adderall from 15-18 and i’m 21 now and still recovering.. It feels like a hopeless cycle of guilt and shame but don’t give up! say your affirmations/prayers/manifestations and keep pushing💯Trust me it’s tough thinking about the big picture/end goal when you can barely get out of bed or brush your teeth but when you hit rock bottom the only way is up🙏You don’t gotta become some body builder, just focus on making ONE small tiny change at a time. Whether that’s go to bed earlier or eat X food instead of Y. Reach out if you ever need a friend you got me!
@@sarahko1014 I’ve never read such an accurate description of what I go through daily. Additionally, I also feel like beating myself up for not being in a position to be motivated/confident and as a result, not being able to exercise or do simple things like that. Thank you kindly for your words and I wish you all the best with your journey as well. - a Canadian
The thing is thought, that you can exercise even in your home, no need to go anywhere, but I get it can be difficult if you just can't find the motivation to even start it. If you don't exercise at all, this will surely on it's on cause a depression.
I take psych meds, and I wish I didn’t, and I do all the other stuff: ie lots of exercise, healthy food, meaningful social life, etc. It’s best to not take anything if you can, but it’s obnoxious to hear people who don’t need psych meds to tell you about them. Obviously they’re overprescribed, pharmaceutical companies have a profit incentive, and changing your habits is the best thing, but maybe Joe Rogan and Dr Wily Beardo here don’t know exactly what’s going on with me or other people
Illtempo 1980 ...got that right. klonopin withdraw is worse than oxycontin. i took both for 15yrs. got off the oyxes in 6mo. it took over a yr.of "all my bones are trying to climb out of my body" to get off the klonopin .
@@fourdeadinohio8303 i honestly dont think ones worse i think its based on the person and the ammount because oxycontin was way harder then xanex to quit for me.. like 10 times harder physically and mentally
@@user-vz2sy7tx3w ..i can relate. i had 3 back surgeries in the 90s and was taking 8 vicodins a day when oxycontin came out. i stared out with 2 5mg. by 2015 i was taking 4 90mg. and 2 percs a day plus 3 klonopins. i look back and can't even think how i functioned. just glad i'm not going thru withdraw any more.
Depression is debilitating and is a disease...try and tell a person that can't eat,shower get out of bed or even feel love to just go exercise.Dont act like an expert until you are in that situation
I agree completely! It’s bothersome that people who have never experienced major depression tend to liken it to a more intense version of sadness. It is nothing slightly related to sadness. Unexplainable really.
@Deborah Hesselblad. Well said. Easy to talk about how bad it is. But when you feel better from taking medicine that helps you. It’s a lifeline to many.
Yes you’re right. For some people like me however we had symptoms of anxiety/depression in response to trauma. I was prescribed a cocktail of meds for my PTSD and it helped rid me of the pain of it in the short term. 8 years after the initial prescription I felt it was time to come off. I think the point of what the doctor is saying is that these medications are over prescribed which I think they are.
Benzo withdrawal is absolutely awful. You take the drug in the first place to mitigate anxiety. Withdrawal for me was anxiety so terrible that my skin was crawling.
YEa. It just defers the anxiety so when you stop it all hits you at once. I just remember for 3 weeks my vision was blurry and my head was at war. Fireworks going off.
After 10 years of living on Benzos and alcohol i finally ended up in a psychiatric ward before going into rehab. I was so paranoid, anxious, neurotic and in so much pain that every day i thought i was going to die. It was like having a panic attack 24/7. It took at least 10 months before I started feeling somewhat "normal" in my own skin. Xanax and other benzos are no joke.
I’ve been clinically depressed most of my life and I have also been sober for eight months from alcohol and this clip inspired me to write a book about it
Tolerance got up to 8 a day back in junior year, in a span of 6 months and I didn’t care if they were real or not, shit was bad. Fucked my family dynamic up, had about 6+ seizures trying to quit and had my mom trying to wake me up from 2+ of them. Had no concept of cold turkey. Couldn’t eat n was throwing up bile for a wk. I was 5’11” and dropped to 140 after quitting. What they said about anxiety and depression is 100% true. The negative thoughts don’t stop and they make u change as a person. Been clean since quarantine started and haven’t looked back. Hope this motivates someone to stop!
Yeah the seizures are the worst total blackout until u wake up and don't know what the is goin on,I didn't have any for a few days and end up buying a pack I took 2 1mg xanax and the minute they kicked in I literally fell to the ground walkin through the city ,woke up against a wall with 2 grocery store staff standing in front of me ,i just got up and walked off didn't know what I was doing ,xanax is crazy won't be touching them again
From 24 yrs old to 29. 2 years straight of minimum 1mg xanax a day and 5 years of minimum 40mg of hydrocodone a day. Was a living hell to kick. DONT EVEN START!!!
In my humble opinion, the worst kind of addiction is that of alcohol. Not only does it deprive you of any human dignity, but it also ruins your entire body.
Real panic attacks are just as intense as a withdrawal. If you live with insane ptsd style anxiety all your life... Withdrawals are laughable. Pint in 15 seconds when I was 12.. 58 cans in one day , 15 top shelf long Islands. Almost a whole bag of wine, 12 pack, half gallon of whiskey and vodka.. That Almost killed me. Bartenders thought I was a freak of nature. I started shaking when I smelled whiskey.. stopped immediately no problem. Just blacked out for a week from Xanax last refill. Will easily forget about them again. Meth and Opioids were laughable. Cigarettes I need intense work outs and keep busy. But I'll suck ya off for a can of soda.. I need my high fructose and caffeine. everyone is different
Been sober from cocaine and Xanax for 3 years now , sadly though my friend did not make it , he passed about 3 years back from Xanax pressed with fentanyl . If you struggle you can get better , it’s hard but it’s possible , you got this ❤️
From 2010 to 2013 I was a Xanax addict following the suicide of my mate. At the height of my addiction I ate 18mg a day. An average day was 5 of the 2mg bricks. The withdrawals were horrendous, took me six months to taper off, and twelve months to be totally off the benzos. There is so much of my life from that period that I just don't recall.
But Joe didn't start smoking weed all the time because a qualified medical professional told them it would fix his depression and didn't mention how addictive it can be did he? Also when was the last time you took a month long break from the antidepressants you're obviously taking?
Dr.4G Yeah I know, right. "I had no alcohol or dope or other drugs for a month. .... Wasn't the effect of the exercise on my brain amazing!" Uh yeh right Joe, it was the exercise. Coz y'know you don't exercise in the other months, the exercise will be it. Uh huh.
@@tomstokoe5660 You wouldn't tell a heart patient to stop taking their heart medication for a month. You wouldn't tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin for a month. Mental illness is no different.
I had taken Xanax for 10 years! I’m two years sober now. I had to gradually get off them with small dose or tiny pieces also I found Rhodiola and Ashwagena worked wonders for my anxiety, not having a panic attack, and overall withdrawal. First year was uplifting momentum for being strong enough to know to get out now. And year 2 here I am researching chemical reaction and effects it has on the mind and body. I think that’s awesome about GABA because I started taking supplements for my chemical imbalance and Gaba I take daily. I miss the high of being “Happy” all the time. I was addicted to instant gratification. I had to re learn my emotions again because I had forgotten what it was like to feel anything other than happy. Someday I want to write a book. The toll it has on your mind and body is something I never saw or heard about to anyone who has got off Xanax. I just want to say you are stronger than you know! 🏆And I hope you are now living life to the fullest!❤️✊
I've been on Xanax for about 20 years. I've tried tapering for months to like .5 most but I usually take 3mg a day and that's what I'm on and been on for years now. How do I get off this crap. It's terrible withdrawals, horriblle
@@NonBathingApe6969 i would buy me Gold scale (precision scale) and crush those pills and take every week 1% of the pills in less than of 2 years you are drug. Your body will change but your mind has also to change you have to hate those Xanaxs.
It's easy to say but it's worse than anything I've ever been on. And believe me I've done my share of substances in my life. Hands down the worst withdrawal, it's like opioid withdrawal but hallucinating, seizures, 4 times I've tried and failed. Damn near thought I was gonna die the last time. I have bad anxiety and panic attacks but I'm so sick of being dependent on it. The only way I could see it might happen would be a slow snail taper for a year smh
My Mistake was taking Way too many Shrooms without Waiting a single Day Between each Trip - HPPD isn't too Fun; 8 Months Later and I have Anxiety, Constant Tracers and "Flashbacks" where I start to Trip a Bit. Shrooms are Fun, but you Gotta be Careful as you should with Any Other Drug!
I got 7 months clean off the xannys feel good.... I miss them tho floating around in the plaid pantry for 20 mins getting snacks then I time travel back to my place and wake up in my computer chair covered in twinky rappers
@@devantepoe2684 It is a devilishly good feeling, stupid though it may sound to non-users. With all the time I wasted nodding out in my teens and twenties, I could've had a PhD! I kicked a nasty heroin habit _in a flash_ compared to the trouble I've had with benzos, especially Xanax. Now the cartels are making their own 'bars' and putting fentanyl in them -- plus y'know Flacco's dirty hands are touching 'em -- so if there ever was a reason to stay away, that's two.
@@bveracka I'm kicking a 23 year long Xanax habit right now. Been 4 1/2 months clean after tapering off for a while with medical assistance. I took them as prescribed cause of severe anxiety and never did them to get high really. An average of 0.5-0.75mg 4-5 times a week. Now I'm struggling with terrible head tremors and muscle spasms. Like my central nervous system is in a constant fight or flight mode. Inner tremors, muscle tension, body "zaps", uneven heart rate, heat waves, constant anxiety. The list of withdrawal symptoms is long. Some say the symptoms could last for years, ref Ashton Report.
Xanax probably saved my life. I had severe panic attacks when I started attending college in my early 20s. Got suicidal it was so bad, for me benefits of taking it far outweighed the risks.
James Smith it absolutely will. First I recommend working out daily to burn off your stress as it’s most likely the cause of your attacks. Fix the triggers around your attacks as much as you can and try to get a dr to prescribe you a low dose of Xanax or Ativan.
Heck yeah, me too and I get to keep all my cognitive abilities, zan has a bad rep. And never addictive for me, alot of times I don't even remember to take during non anxiety times
When you have a severe depression, exercise is completely out of reach, you just don’t have enough energy to get out of bed, forget exercising. First step is always and will always be looking inwards: sit with your depression, listen to it, listen to what are you responding to with a depressed state, find the source which is ALWAYS a trauma, and then find a good enough trauma therapist and take a long, hard road of regulating yourself and healing. This way you will improve your quality of life not for a few weeks but long-term, and once you start feeling better, regaining your energy level, this is when you start exercising.
I've tried those breathing techniques, and I must say. Its also a placebo effect. Easier said then done when you have someone who genuinely suffers from anxiety and PTSD. Working out is key tho, I think that is the base to everything positive mind body and soul
Everyone talks about the horrors of benzo's but its really dependent on the person. I personally have 2 people in my family that used benzo's for 10 years for anxiety and never went over a certain dose and were able to eventually taper down and come off in reasonably quickly. Personally speaking, xanax was a life saver during a long battle with Lyme Disease due to the ailments it caused with my nervous system. I also have a family member who was into all kinds of drugs and just kept loading up on xanax he bought off the street to the point of addiction and ruin. It's not the drug, because these drugs do have legitimate uses for people with chronic illness, disorders, and disease -- it's how the drug is managed. It doesn't just take over your life.
@@smart_for_a_retard Man, I relate to so much of what you said including the part about making fun of people that breath in bags. I used to think anxiety and panic attacks were people just putting on a show, but then a Lyme Disease infection hit me like a truck. To make a long story short it, felt like my fight or flight response was constantly "on." Adrenaline surging, feeling like i was going to puke, heart racing, mind racing around the clock, insane anxiety -- the only thing that would touch it during that period was Xanax. Nothing else they tried worked. It was the only thing that would allow me to get a few hours of sleep and to calm the nausea and racing mind while i was awake. I fear that videos like this and the addiction stories could one day get these drugs taken off the market completely when they can be life savers to the people that really need them and take them responsibly for a reason. I wish more stories like yours got out there rather than the stories you hear about people taking xanax at parties and becoming pill junkies etc. Glad you made it through brother and were able to tell your story. All the respect.
2b Blue you guys ever try marijuana? I feel like it would be a way healthier but what do I know I never went through what you guys did It...this was pretty much the only positive comment I saw and it was intriguing.
@@strappedserpent8383 Definitely understand where you're coming from. I've tried it and it can be hit or miss for me. Sometimes it's calming and relaxing, but other times i either don't get much out of it or the paranoia kicks up too much for my liking. If I could get to a point where it just makes me feel 'normal' and relaxed without feeling groggy or 'drunk' like Xanax can do, I'd be game (and no paranoia). .
its mainly due to genetics. ive known people that have taken benzos for 2 to 4 weeks who are completely disabled from it. it was prescribed by a doctor too.
I have worked out hardcore my whole life. However, I actually discovered at some point that a lot of my anxiety was actually because of too much exercise. It increased my cortisol levels too high, too often. Generally, exercise is obviously good for you, but I don't think that hardcore exercise or even a little exercise will cure everyone's problems.
My dad was schizophrenic. He would hallucinate sometimes, but mostly it manifested as severe crippling depression, the kind where he was practically catatonic. After his first suicide attempt via overdosing on his meds, he lost his job. Later mom left for another man because she couldn't handle working 2-3 jobs anymore just to make ends meet, and honestly I couldn't blame her, though I sure as hell tried to. Shit was fucked up. But from the lowest point of his life he got back up on his feet and made something of his life again. He seemed...maybe not exactly happy but content with his life. Then one day he decided he felt so good about himself and where he was at that he went off his meds without anyone knowing. A week later he shot himself in the heart. He didn't come back from that. Fucking rebound.
Vorpal Cheezit I got cut cold turkey off valium after 5 years..I ended up in the ICU after a failed suicide attempt.It took me 6 months after that.Constant suicidal ideation. Sorry for your loss.
Vorpal Cheezit I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine your pain and loss. Doctors really need to emphasize with their patients that yes you will start feeling better on these meds, and that means that they are working, it does not mean you are cured and should stop the medication but if your thinking about it please come see me immediately before doing so. But they don’t do that, but they need to. They overlook to many things. My doctor years ago failed to tell me that you can’t take benzos and ambien together it can be deadly, and I did that a lot. All the docs wanna do is push the latest and greatest they get kickbacks for prescribing. Anyway, again I’m sorry about your dad. God bless and happy holidays.
I stopped consuming alcohol, stopped benzo addiction and antidepressants. It was so hard, the withdrawal symptoms were hell, even after 2 years still had symptoms, and detox teas and exercise really helped me.
The problem with joes simple take on ssri's is the semantics of the word "depression". Depression is a normal human emotion, you lose a loved one or a job and you feel sad. This is not what ssri's are for. Major Depressive Disorder aka Clinical Depression is an entire different ball game and is a medical emergency. Dramatic biological and physical effects that make simply getting out of bed near impossible let alone being productive or going to work. Thats why it is so simple for the 95% of the population who have never had clinical depression to say "ahhh just toughin up think positive"... I assure you if that was possible these people would do so. Imagine being surrounded by billions of dollars puppies and the people you love the most and feeling no joy and all you have is dizziness mind fog and gut wrenching hopelessness. Thats what clinical depression is, its not effected by your life situation or thinking patterns. Its a biological disorder where the feeling of calm or joy is impossible to experience. Its an isolating nightmare I wouldnt wish on my worst enemy, like sinking into an abyss and nobody can pull you out as you spiral down. For these people with the actual medical condition of mdd/clinical depression, ssri's are a life raft in the darkest of seas. If you dont understand what I am saying consider yourself lucky you arent in the percentage of people who have to go through that living hell.
Yep. People who say "omg I'm like so depressed I felt sad for like, a long time" can come talk to me when they have lost any will to live to the point where they piss themselves in bed rather than move a single muscle. If maintaining a heart beat required conscious effort, I would have stopped that too. Fuck, I was so bad I may as well have literally been dead for several months.
In the video they mention that it should be used short term for major depression. Which yes it should cause all drugs have deminishing returns. It should just be used to stabilize someone and then get them psychological help. Psychiatrist have become the voodoo witch doctors of the current age.
Depression is like sharing a room with a giant black bear. Can't play dead like one would to get rid of a grizzly, it must be fought. Some days you'll wake up with that black bear sitting right on your chest and it won't move an inch if unless you fight. You're still fighting a wild animal that outweighs you by 800 pounds, but even putting up a small fight will make it back off a little. That bear will never go far, but you don't have to let it eat you, there are options out there.
Very insightful. Everything is subjective. With todays rampant sin/cruelty apathy is a go to for egophiles and average people alike. Pathy must be pounded into many people with a sledgehammer, or putting them in that position so they can feel it. Not everyone of course....but trends are not built on humanity.....it's virtue signaling, short term reward, applying labels, shifting blame....etcetera. Net benefit for me and F U because your problems must be self induced. A common social construct among populations (whom are no longer the ones creating social constructs) is that all fixes are available to those whom attempt to seek them as our countries are superiour so F everyone and I will just work to prove how virtuos I am. BS. In my country it is an absolute socialist illusion that fools everyone. Your description of this disorder is excellent however it was required that you deliver it in a way that a child could grasp it.....would anyone even bother reading it all? Everyone is already so great and brilliant that many I would bet would immediatly feel superiour......I'm really guessing here, but we do have serious problems ingrained in society threw engineered constructs.
youre not understanding what Joe is saying. There may be imbalance chemically in the sufferers of depression but there are many many other means to achieve improvement on there mental health that don't involve taking a serious medication with serious side effects and also can generally out perform these drugs. Unfortunately it's the fact that a pill is easier to swallow then making serious lifestyle changes like beginning to exercise, getting a healthy diet, enough sleep, sun exposure etc etc.
I was prescribed Lyrica for my neuopathy (my hands often went numb) after chemotherapy. Nobody told me that it was also prescribed for anxiety, and so when it didn't work to treat the neuropathy, and I quit it cold-turkey, I had INSANE mood swings.
as a drug addict myself i always preach this to people that wanna do drugs "its ok to do it here and there but its not gonna stop the issues its just gonna help hold it back once that drug is gone everything you try to bury is gonna come out and that is whats gonna make you keep taking them" Edit: all my therapist warn me about the addiction sides of my meds but i guess its depends on where you are
I have a friend finishing up med school who’s probably the smartest person I know. He’s experimented with all kinds of drugs (weed, coke, acid, shrooms, ketamine, etc.) but Xanax is the one thing he said he would never touch.
I’m a 25 year old fit male eat healthy and workout and I had social anxiety so bad my face would turn red anytime someone talked to me and anti depressants cured that and now I can stay calm in any social situation so they clearly work
I had a depressive/anxious "episode" that derailed my life after freshman year of college (there was no significant lifestyle or circumstances changes to really indicate why it happened). I had to take a semester off to sort it out because I could barely function. My confidence was in the gutter, I had very little energy, I couldn't think clearly, and it took an incredible amount of effort to complete even simple tasks. I was able to recover and "reboot" my life with vigorous daily exercise which gave me structure as well as the mood elevating effects of exercise. I re-enrolled in university and things went quite well for ~2 years. However, despite maintaining my almost obsessive workout routine, I slipped into another depression/anxiety "episode" and again my life went to pots and I fell out of a work out routine. I tried to replicate what had worked for me before by forcing myself to work out and have a structured life but it didn't work. I had no idea why the steps I had taken just a couple years earlier no longer were benefiting me and for some reason I was unable to get into a productive routine, especially working out - starting to work out is the hardest part as everyone knows and it becomes easier as you get into the routine and build up your fitness levels but for some reason it didn't get easier and I was like a zombie. I was prescribed klonopin (benzodiazepine) for anxiety and it completely turned my life around. I didn't realize the extent of the negative impact anxiety had on my life and the klonopin was a lifesaver. I was on it for just over a year and it helped me "reboot" my life again and become an effective, productive person. The medicine has its risks but thankfully I had a very vigilant, thoughtful doctor who made sure I was prescribed reasonable amounts, used the medication to take steps to get back on track, and when I was back on track he tapered me off slowly as to avoid the withdrawal/rebound effects mentioned in this video. Cliff notes: Exercise is great both physically and mentally but sometimes it isn't adequate on its own. Benzodiazepines can be an extremely effective tool when prescribed by a vigilant, experienced, and thoughtful doctor who understands how to mitigate the risks and get the most out of the medication. Unfortunately, there are loads of half-assed doctors out there who are uncaring money-grubbing types who are perfectly content with visiting a patient for ~15 minute appointments every month or two and write a prescription and forget about the patient until the next brief appointment in several weeks. Those types of doctors are how people get fucked by these drugs. I was very fortunate to just happen to have a very good doctor who was compassionate, very wary of the pros/cons of benzodiazepines, was very bright, and monitored my progress and prescriptions like a hawk.
Dated a girl who has been on a rather large dose of Xanax most of her life.....she’d blackout conversations, run into furniture, very emotionally volatile, and her immune system was very weak and always low energy. Avoid at all costs.
Was prescribed Valium for PTSD & Anxiety, Vicodin for pain and Anti-Depressant for depression back in 1991 by the Veterans Administration. I can tell you the benzo was by far the hardest both physically and mentally to stop taking. I went through almost 1.5 years of mental issues before my brain finally balanced back out. Today all I take is a multi vitamin and I can not tell you how grateful I am for my life. ✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
Stay in there bud, I was on xanax and heroin for over 8 years and have been clean for a while now, I know the hell all too well, stay in there my friend! Go to a medical detox facility if you don't think your body can handle it or you've been taking very high MG doses daily like i was (10-20mg) I had to go to a facility where they could give me clonodine so i wouldn't have a seizure and die. Stay safe and I hope you a speedy and safe recovery man.
i usually exercise regularly and did for the past 2 years. then hit a depressive episode and found myself unwilling to do many things all of a sudden; i quit my job, my exercise club, my gym, i didnt get out of bed to eat. i didnt feel terrible but i felt very numb and neutral with no desire for anything at all. this was actually really helpful with my sobriety, as i was newly sober and having no desire to even leave the house, see people and drink because i was so depressed was actually a benefit for that aspect of things. i started going to therapy and that helped and also taking an SSRI that is helping which I don't intend on staying on long term. my mood is drastically better, i found a new job i can do and although my desire to exercise hasn't come back yet, I'm sure it will in due course. exercise is wonderful for the mood but not the be all end all, i think.
He’s spot on with how drug companies are trying to convince everyone that regular human emotions and times of sadness and anxiety are somehow not normal and need to be treasured with a drug. People, everyone gets sad, everybody gets nervous or anxious. It passes, and there are ways to fix it that don’t involve highly addictive drugs
Fuck off is it my dad got some we had a few drops and sat there like ehh fuck all's happening about 3 hours later we had a legitimate sword fight with the old swords above his fireplace then had an argument
The problems is when someone (like myself) was given SSRIs as a kid or someone decides to just trust their doctors decision and finds themselves now on them for nearly 18 years. There seems to be no going back. They are too integrated into your brain and any attempt to remove them is a waking nightmare.
Exactly. I was prescribed them and left to my own devices for a decade. A periodic evaluation with a “professional” was required in order for the prescriptions to be refilled but it was more of a checkbox activity. At the time I trusted them and the process. You really do have to take hold of your own healthcare. Medical “professionals” in most cases can’t be trusted either due to lack of knowledge of lack of caring for the patient unfortunately. After a decade I was able to come off them with awful side effects. But these were something I shouldn’t have been on longer than 6-12 months just to get me through PTSD which was triggered by a terrible divorce I was going through and not some chemical imbalance or mental health issue.
I feel very fortunate to have escaped this horrible drug, I had it prescribed to me in high school and I took it for years before it was taken away, and it was tough no doubt but I didn’t even realize I had been addicted to it.
I was on escitalopram (SSRI) for almost a year. It made it difficult to sleep, it barely worked, it destroyed my attention span, and the physical withdrawals were disgusting. I kept getting this nauseating electric shock sensation throughout my body every 20-30 seconds for a few weeks after stopping I recently started self-medicating with marijuana edibles after it became legal here in Canada, and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in almost every aspect of my life. My stress and anxiety is reduced. My attention span has improved dramatically. It's as if I've gone back to having as much energy as I did in my early teen years. This is just from having a 10mg dose every couple days to keep a baseline amount in my system over time. I'm not even getting high.
Lexapro withdrawals made me absolutely lose my shit. I took 10mg a day (sometimes 15mg) for a year, and it helped me a bit for about 2 months. After that it was just side effects so I went off them cold turkey. The next 2 weeks of my life were absolute hell. Fevers, insomnia, insane mental instability (crying to laughing hysterically within minutes), terrible mental fog, just to name a few. All of that just from an SSRI 😳. I cannot imagine what benzo withdrawals would be like... I self medicated with indica THC oil for a bit, but eventually every single experience I had would turn into wild paranoia, even if I took as little as 10mg of THC... Nowadays working out, meditation and journaling keep me relatively sane. Hopefully THC still does the job for ya, anxiety can be incredibly overwhelming at times.
I'm so glad to hear a dialogue about this. It's easy to fall into the trap of taking all the professional advice and medication you can get when you have fallen down in life. People need to read more novels, use that imagination to create your own infinite universe. On the day you die, possess a universe within yourself. Harness wild thought and ride. Don't be a passenger in life.
I agree with you. I don’t allow my mind to create like I used to and it’s so much harder to get through things. Wish I knew how to get past that. Any tips?
@@bullycontracts7170 No dumbass. Naloxone is an opioid. Naltrexone is an opioid. Nalbuphrine is an opioid. Salvinorin a is an opiod. You aren’t educated about pharmacology so you don’t know what you’re talking about. An opioid is anything that binds to an opioid receptor. There are many opioids that cause no withdrawal.
Exercise and diet do not guarantee that depression will go away. The pill helped me greatly. Some people really do need them. I am a lifelong exerciser and eat healthy. I am not overweight in any way. So dont go around using sweeping generalizations, we are individuals not dehumanized examples of things you dont even take but make you seem like people should listen to. And I did the fish oil thing. Give it a rest.
What he fails to recognize is that benzodiazepines cause an iatrogenic brain injury because they downregulate the GABA-a receptors. Every single nerve-ending in the human body has a GABA receptor. When those receptors are downregulated, dependence occurs. This happens within 3 days of taking a benzo as prescribed. Many people, including myself, incorrectly think they are addicted to benzodiazepines because the body no longer recognizes its own GABA (the receptor is now turned 'off') and the body and brain begins to totally rely on the benzodiazepine. The body then hits tolerance and more of the drug is needed to get the same calming effect. This is NOT addiction. GABA and Glutamate regulate the body. When it gets flooded with GABA, the Glutamate skyrockets which is why *rebound anxiety* occurs along with hundreds of other unbearable symptoms and why it takes so long to recover from benzodiazepine withdrawal. The doctors and pharmaceutical companies do a good job of labeling everyone "addicted" when it's not accurate. A lot of the issue also lies in the fact that benzodiazepines and alcohol are the only two substances that can downregulate the GABA receptors in the body and brain. So when someone sees a person experiencing benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome, it looks a lot like alcohol withdrawals. Because a brain injury has occurred one cannot simply stop a benzodiazepine. It needs to be SLOWLY tapered over the course of months/years. It took me a year to taper off 1mg of Klonopin. I began having BWS and tolerance withdrawal symptoms for years while I was still on the drug and had no clue what was happening.
@@whyumadtho355 i noticed some wd anxiety with taking 2mg for a week straight. it only lasted for 2 or 3 days tho. even after 3 months only wd for a week. now 6 month usage wrecked me for awhile. wasnt right for a few months
@@MrGrey-vo2og wd anxiety isn’t physical dependence and physical withdrawal. 3 days of use isn’t long enough to suffer physical withdrawal. Rebound anxiety yea definitely possible but physical withdrawals are a whole different beast.
im on an anti psychotic, before i was on meds i was stuck in my bed with crippling anxiety, i understand that pills are the last resort but without what im on , i would be dead.
Which anti psych out of curiosity? I was given an anti-psych for an extreme migraine in the hospital, just one dose. It gave me RLS for 3 weeks, for every hour of the day. And it also gave me extreme dysphoria, I felt like I was on a bad trip for those whole 3 weeks. Fast forward a year later - another extreme migraine. When I get to the hospital I let them know "No anti-psychs". And what do they do? They IV me one. Two minutes pass and I turn to my sister with tears in my eyes and tell her I think they gave me one. She didn't believe me at first, but after another minute half my face was drooping and my leg muscles tightened so hard my fucking leg almost broke. So it gave me dystonia for a couple days. Had to stay on the cardio floor because my resting heart rate was 150-180 resting. They treated me like royalty those few days, I was on fentanyl+ativan almost 24/7. I'm not a very vocal person, so I didn't try to take action against the hospital. But that whole hospital visit was essentially free, so I'm not complaining. Anyways my body chemistry is very weird. I'm hyper sensitive to DXM, cannabis makes me vomit profusely, and a lot of other things. I just wish I could remember what medication they gave me so I can put it on my record/file not to ever administer it again. Aside from that, the only drug I take daily is morphine/other opiates. Fortunately (and unfortunately) opiates are the only drug I don't get extreme side effects from.
Can we talk about the fact that at 17 yrs old I described symptoms of social anxiety disorder to my GP and was given 1mg of xanax per day... 18 yrs later I've been moved to 4mg a day and asked repeatedly to be weened off the drug with no assistance so I'm doing it myself
Been on and got off of both opiates and benzodiazepines and I did it at the same time, but honestly. I wouldn’t wish that on my absolute worst enemy. It’s like mental and physical torture. The skin crawling anxiety you feel is so bad that I can’t even put it into words. I’m mot being mellow dramatic either. Pain, restless legs, spasms, no sleep for days and days, sweating, chills, nausea/vomiting, suicidal thoughts, AND THOSE ARENT EVEN THE LONG TERM EFFECTS. I literally couldn’t feel happy for months. True happiness is something I cherish to this day. I even look at comedy differently. I appreciate everything so much more now a days. Please don’t do drugs kids.
Couldn't be explained better. KIDS..I GET IT..I GET IT..BUT THIS PERSON IM REPLYING TO IS SPEAKING GOSPEL TRUTH..THE BEGINING OF THE RIDE-ROLLERCOASTER BUT when that ROLLERCOASTER don't stop and eventually crashes...mmm..stay Away kids..STAY AWAY.
So true. Been clean from xans and heroin for 2 years and I always remember yearning for the possibility to just feel ‘bored’ again when I was dopesick. Being grateful for everything in life, the ups and downs, even the mundane, has kept me on the right path. Like you said I wouldnt wish opiate/benzo withdrawl on my enemy
I can not even imagine doing that in the way you’re describing- it sounds like you just quit suddenly. It’s the worst torture and it’s amazing how strong you are! ❤❤❤ you. Are. A. Superhero!
I take Sertraline for my anxiety and have taken it for years now. I can honestly say that my ability to control my anxiety is FAR better than what it used to be. I used to have panic attacks on a daily basis and now the worst I get is a little nervous before giving a presentation or going on a roller coaster. So if you are taking antidepressants realize that YES they do work, but not for everybody. Don’t use antidepressants unless absolutely necessary. And if you are current taking them don’t just go cold turkey on them. They take two weeks to work usually and if after a month you are still experiencing extreme levels of anxiety or depression, then consider changing your medication or looking for an alternative method. If you are prescribed Xanax only use it when you feel it’s absolutely necessary.
he didn't say SSRI's don't work, just that they have no advantages over a placebo in the long term. the only reason i hesitated to get off cymbalta myself was fear of the lengthy withdrawal, but i'm glad i stuck it out.
I refused to take meds for my generalized anxiety disorder. I started taking Indica edibles and they work great. I take them twice a week and they keep my anxiety in check for the whole week.
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I love marijuana. I like to smoke good bud- I don't like the concentrates- it reminds me too much of crack. It makes a dreary usual day interesting.I could see religions with marijuana as the Sacramental host like the Rastafarians. I'll be the rasta- man!
I love that he said, “we’re not supposed to be happy” hahaha so true you have to make happiness for yourself and create a good life. Also you have to be physically active. Run, lift weights, yoga, hit a punching bag have a lot more sex anything to get a work out. Another big one is fulfill goals you set for yourself even small ones. You’ll start to realize how you never see things all the way through. One more huge thing to keep you happy Is be humble (you’re no better or worse than anyone else) and help your fellow human beings for their sake not for anythingin return besides the good feeling of helping someone. I went from heroin addiction being on the streets for a little while to having a pretty awesome life and I accomplished that in a year after getting of dope. What’s your excuse now, besides you don’t want to put in the work. I know everyone listening to this has some kind of warrior spirit in them. Harness it and rise out of the hole you’re living in. Good luck fuckers.
Hey I agree with you But what happens when you do everything right…everything you’ve said and you are still sad…despite success, gratitude….,exercise, and hard work.. I’ve had all of that…and now I’m grappling with some physical health issues..that’s grief..and you can’t just yoga that away Clinical depression is real
I’m not “sober” but I’m 3 years off daily Xanax use…. And by far was the worst of all my drug addictions because the negative side effects are so subtle like I couldn’t learn because I couldn’t remember and the feelings I had about things in general were completely false.
I have been on Xanax since 2015. 1.5 mg a day. My mom had dementia and I was her caregiver and I took it to help with the stress and sleep. My mom passed in 2019 and I want to get off it. I drink also recreationally. When you cut out the Xanax did you still drink?
@al cambrola All things relative, I can’t imagine 1.5 mgs a day doing too much, if any, long term damage. I was taking anywhere from 30 to 80 mgs a day and don’t remember whole portions of my life lol. Also, drinking on Xanax is just about the worse thing I can imagine. I have never done that and remembered anything the next day.
@@soyburglar77 Thanks. I was her caregiver for 10 years and in 2015 got on Xanax for the stress by prescription. I don't abuse it and take it at bedtime. I do have a few beers on the weekend. I was just wondering if I can taper and continue having the beer? My plan is to shave off a measured amount a little at a time. Others have said that your gaba receptors won't have a chance to heal if drinking.
@@soyburglar77 Wow! 30 to 80 mgs a day? How did you taper if you don't mind my asking? In late afternoon, a get mild interdose withdrawal symptoms. A little shakiness and mild anxiety. I would like to eliminate the beer eventually. I'm going to be 68 in May.
After a near mental breakdown I started to seek professional councelling, and fairly quickly I was prescribed small doses of xanax and zoloft by the psychiatrist under who's care I was. This was exactly one year ago and under the skilled care of my psychiatrist I was able to navigate out of the darkness of my my crippling depression. I haven't used either of the drugs in over 8 months now. Had it not been for the added push and momentum I got from the medication it would have been far more difficult to come out the other side. The Xanax let my nervous system finally rest and I could at last sleep and get quality rest. I remember sleeping for 12 hours a day for about 2 weeks because I was emotionally exhausted and my nerves were shot to hell. Xanax allowed me to get rest I needed and begin my spiritual, mental and physical recovery. The Zoloft helped stabilise my mood. My psychiatrist used these drugs as training wheels while he counseled me as tools to help get me where I needed to be. I'm more alive than ever living my life to the fullest and I have nothing but gratitude towards my councillor and the medication.
You used it correctly and didn't abuse or become dependent,i envy you and i bet alot of others do,but im happy you got benefits instead of a world of addiction and hell
1% of the people prescribed it actually need it. You are of that few 1% that had an actual medically significant result. Anti-depressants are probably the most over prescribed medication on the market. They just come with a stigma - depression - so we don't talk about it. We know all about the problem with pain killers and opiate based medications, because the stigma isn't there as much. We don't talk about mental health enough because of that stigma. I'm glad you started your road to recovery, and I wish you the best in your future.
The same for me I was hospitalized for severe clinical depression. Was put on antidepressants and anti anxiety med. If used correctly under the care of a good psychiatrist they help you while you try to navigate out of what got you into this mess they are training wheels on the road to recovery. I went through hell in my 20s. I eventually got off these meds as well as quit smoking 40 years ago. I am now in my late 60s and leading a very happy peaceful life. I wouldn’t have made it without these meds. If you used correctly for true clinical severe depression they can and do save lives. People have to understand the difference between being unhappy and a depression that alters your brain chemicals two vastly different things. Antidepressant withdrawal MUST be done very very gradually otherwise you could have a very bad reaction depending on the half-life of the drug you are using. The brain has to readjust to working on it’s own. NEVER stop these meds suddenly !!! Withdrawal should be done under medical supervision.
Do you sleep well when youre shit drunk? Because is the same exact systems at play between xanax and alcohol. You sleep like shit on benzos, I can say from experience. You can get some "rest" and a really great nap, but youre not getting REM sleep or the sleep you need to be restored and proper the next day
I've been in withdrawal from both, I'd say opioids are worse (although, I didn't have a colossal tolerance with benzo's like I did for opioids). The worst part of benzo withdrawal is that it lasts for a long time, simmering. For like months, random unease will seize you for no reason and linger. Then you think you're past it, and it comes up again in a few days, and this oscillation drags on forever. At least with opioids, once you clear the major humps (acute withdrawal in the first 3-5 days, then the general misery of the first three-four weeks), you're done with the worst of it, and everyday gets better than the day before.
did this unease and oscillations eventually go away? i am currently tapering off of xanax abuse with ativan. hoping to be completely off of it soon but want to know how long i can expect to feel protracted withdrawal.
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 its really hard for me to say, because I was withdrawing from both substances at once, and my opioid use was far worse than my benzo use. Plus, everyone is different, every feels withdrawal differently. My brother made it look effortless to kick heroin IMO, and kept working while dope sick, while I was depressed and listless for a year. Re:benzos, the thing that was striking to me was how I would feel like I was finally done with with the withdrawals, and then I'd get hit with anxiety again. The latent anxiety would roll up like a wave and stick around for days, it was like a high tide that went up to your neck. It made it really hard to be productive and work. I ended up basically not working during that period of my life, I was living with family. They gave me a rapid taper with Ativan basically just for seizures, then I was off in 2 weeks (I think). I was in an inpatient program. I was using, on average, 3/4 bar of Xanax a day, I can't remember the mg. I hadn't been using benzos long, maybe a year, moving from sporadic use binging here and there to using 6 out 7 days. So depending on your taper it might be different. Work with your doctor, and remember that progress is not always a straight line. You're going to ha e to be flexible and adapt to what your body is going through. For me, I think the benzo wd lasted like 9 months, on and off. I remember having 18+ months clean, waking up one morning, and noticing I hadn't had PAWS for a while. In fact, I even felt kind of good. I realized that I didn't feel "normal" my first 18 months clean, even though I _thought_ I felt normal I can tell you that in my case, it got better, with help from 12 step groups and ongoing therapy. Clean and sober 10 years. I help other addicts through 12 step groups and I worked as a drug counselor. I ended up going back to school and getting a degree in comp sci, got married, etc. I used to hear people in meetings saying, "I'm glad I went through my addiction, because it brought to me where I am today, and I'm really happy today." I would hear that, and think about how I never felt that way. I felt like my addiction ruined my life, and I was never going to get out of this hole. I didn't like big parts of myself. I even hated myself for some things. With therapy, and time, I finally found myself saying the same cliche I had heard all those years, when I had around 8-9 years clean. I'm genuinely glad this all happened, because of how happy I am today. I never thought it would come. So don't give up, no matter what happens. It's not going to be easy,, but I can promise you that it will be worth it. I never wake up and think "I wish I had used Xanax a bit longer" or "if only I was still using heroin." Recovery is possible. You don't want to leave 5 min before the miracle happens.
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 been addicted to xans and heroin in my life. The unease of benzo withdrawl gradually gets better after months of being sober but I found that it takes your ability to remember things substantially longer to return to ‘normal’. That brain fog feeling does seem to linger but itl get better over time. Stay strong and don’t thing of the big picture just take it day by day. As long as today was better than yesterday you’re on the right path!
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 I tapered off Xanax with klonopin. Was taking up to 5 2 mg bars a day. Tried cold turkey at first and had multiple seizures. So I tapered with the Xanax at first but only got get down to 2 mg a day and nothing less. Then switched to klonopin from there. Went from 1.5 mg a day to .5 in a month …from .5 I jumped straight of the k pins . Had almost no withdrawal after that. Had rebound aniexty for about a month and trouble getting good rest but that’s about it
When i go for 20-30km runs Its incredible how well i feel afterwords. Mental chatter disappear, i feel no anxiety , no guilt eating unhealthy foods or no rush to do anything. It isn’t fun to run long distances, but have’nt found anything that comes close to these effects besides for long runs. I hav’nt taken any antidepressants in my life. Which im grateful for.
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Benzos are the devil, especially when prescribed by a doctor. I had a psychiatrist put me on 3mg of Klonopin a day when I was 15, getting off of it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. I dabbled with *everything* else and never had a habit with that, but prescribed benzos were what finally gave me a dependency. The same thing applies to antidepressants, those things are every bit as dependence-forming. We all like to assume that something is fine because a doctor prescribed it, but they screw up VERY often.
I guess you could say I was lucky for having a short lasting addiction. Two months addicted to Xanax. A bad acid trip made me completely stop as it traumatized me heavily. I’m only 16 and I’ve been clean for over a month now. I wish I knew how HORRIBLE withdrawal was going to be. I also stopped cold turkey, which I didn’t know was a bad idea. If I had been using for a longer time, then I could have had a seizure. I did feel like I lost my mind. Hallucinated, intense panic attacks, tremors, paranoia and insomnia. It took about three weeks for me to feel normal again. I’m writing this here because these comments make me feel understood. I’m still fighting, very determined not to relapse. I do hope nobody I know in real life sees this comment lol. I am glad it didn’t last more than two months. Xanax is not your friend. It’s dangerous. It never gets better. It only gets worse.
It only gets worse - 100%!! You couldn’t be more right!!! I was addicted to Xanax (and Ativan if I couldn’t get Xanax). The addiction hijacked my life for almost four years!!! As you can imagine, I was brutally addicted … in every way. My physical dependence was severe. As Stevie Nicks said so articulately, “detoxing off of benzos is like opening the door to hell”. I had auditory hallucinations for 5 months. I’d sit in the bath with my head by the faucet countless times a day just to drown out the sounds in my head. Terrifying!!
Man my best friend had a bad trip 2 years back and has never been the same since, it’s so much more serious than people realize.. I’m 21 and you remind me so much of my younger self. Our stories are VERY similar. Its such a dark place and even worse when you’re alone & I really wish I had somebody (non judgmental) to talk to back then or some guidance but I didn’t. I’m sober in college now scars are there but the hard part is over.. I honestly never leave comments like this but please reach out to me if you ever need anybody!! Osrs I will give you my socials fr. i love you and im here for you girl🤍
It's hard when you have so many people who may suffer from social anxiety / have minor and or natural depressive tendencies that get lumped in with people who have severe mental disorders. The discourse around depression and the solutions for such things get very decisive. Some people may get offended when you say "work out to cure depression" when they really mean "exercise can curb depressive tendencies in individuals with minor 'normal' afflictions". It's almost like a rule of self assurance, if you feel as if you may have depressive tendencies maybe try these more simple solutions before deciding to alter your brain chemistry. Of course you're the arbiter of how you treat yourself but you never want to jump head first into something that may not even be necessary.
I've been injured a few times...had a lot of trauma from my youth and the good ole Dr's just prescribed Xanax, Valium, shoulder injury that led to painkiller prescriptions... screwed up my life for a bit. Proudly sober from pills for 6 Years now
I was on xans for months. When I quit the withdrawals were terrible I felt like I was outside of my body looking over myself dying. And 7 seizures I thought I was gonna die. plz don’t take them
How do you know you had 7 seizures? Ive been on klo opin for over a year and tried to quit. I would get delusional paranoid go into psychosis. This past Tuesday I was over at my mom's because I was scared to be home alone I was so sick. My aunt,my mom's sister, stopped by to bring my mom and new phone cover and while she was over there they said I had two seizures but I do not remember any of it and I thought they were lying to me until I could feel the hard knot on the back of my head caused from me falling out in the kitchen floor and hitting my head really hard and having two seizures. It's very scary. I'm going back to my doctor Thursday and demanding that he put me back on it and safely wean me off of them. A seizure can literally kill you
He’s absolutely right about how horrific Benzo addiction is - I’ve been through it and go through it now bc of panic disorder and just weaning off a little bit is complete hell That said, breathing techniques are total junk science for real panic disorders and have been shown to be ineffective in several studies Most people don’t know what real anxiety and panic is and have no frame of reference. Unless you’ve gone to the ER thinking you’re dying , you don’t know what a panic attack is. And unless you’ve had a panic attack so bad that you ran away into the bathroom freaking out in a grocery store due to how intense the attack is, you can’t grasp panic disorder I know I couldn’t until it happened to be. Breathing techniques are useless there. The only real things that help are a) benzos for immediate relief b) exposure therapy which is hard and few doctors know how to execute it (dr Claire weeks wrote a book about it in the 60s and she experienced it so any sufferer who reads her book knows it’s legit by the way she describes it) Real anxiety is not just feeling nervous and uncomfortable in social situations because you’re awkward and lack confidence. It’s not that normal nervousness of knowing you have to present to a huge crowd at work. It’s a fight or flight adrenaline dump that can’t be comprehended until you experience it
Exactly. Well said. It’s being indistinguishable from a heart attack. Then if you have health and heart issues it can cause an actual heart attack. So u run around the room thinking I’m about to die, this is it, I’m about to die. Omg omg omg my heart is thumping so much. Elephant on my chest. Excessive sweating. Intense dysphoria. Omg I’m about to die right here right now. Hand goes numb. Face goes grey. It feels like a stroke. These were my last symptoms during a panic attack. I went to ER. Blood pressure 160/105 . Pulse 175. It was horrible.
@@tysonsimmons2295 I can tell from your description you’ve had a really bad one before I don’t think most people have had one anywhere near close to that - and they just don’t know any better (lucky them) The ones you’re describing - my first one ever was like that, and then since then it was only whenever I’d smoke weed that they could completely take me over like that - for up to four hours at a time. Just one panic attack rolling into another. Tracked it on my Fitbit too. Completely terrifying experience. Absolutely horrifying and frankly I think death is better because at least death just takes you - rather than steeping your in fear for hours like some kind of unholy tea bag. I clocked 210/105 or something like that one night in the midst of a bad one after a little tiny piece of a thc gummy and a couple glasses of wine. Chewed and aspirin immediately. Anyhow I don’t bother trying weed anymore. Used to be fine, then it wasn’t. Then I tried microdosing because I thought confronting the fear could be therapeutic - and that worked for a time. Until I had just a teeny bit too much and it didn’t.
@@Merknilash holy smokes man! Your blood pressure was 210/105!!? That’s insane. You must’ve felt terrified and awful. May I ask what they did for you at the hospital. If you feel up to it, I wouldn’t mind reading the entire process, from when you walked in to the moment you walked out of there. The weed induced attacks happen often to people who used to smoke a lot say as a youth, but quit for a time and went through some serious medical issues, or other traumas which then comes in to cause these heavy episodes from marijuana. I go through minor attacks when I smoke sometimes (twice a month about for smoking), but they are no where near that bad and are all in my head. I found that the only times I am able to smoke marijuana and enjoy it is when I have benzos and booze on board. And I either go straight to bed or have something to occupy my mind like music or film. Have you ever heard about microdosing?
@@tysonsimmons2295 I didn’t go to the hospital - I went once years and years ago (2008) when I woke up with a bad panic attack and didn’t know what was happening to me Doc tried to tell me it was SVTs or some crap - which it wasn’t - and that I was fine On the occasion where my home reader said 210/105 - that was with my heart rate pounding at 150-160 I chewed an aspirin and took 4x my usual dose of Xanax and it calmed down But yep that’s my history - used to smoke Schwag from 15 to early 20s and I can barely even smell the stuff without it sending me on an insanely strong panic attack I tried micro dosing but it just didn’t matter so I gave up - sadly But I suspect a lot of my issues are due to a 10 year + low dose Xanax dependency. Even at only .25mg or less per day (usually .125) it’s enough to make the brain so sensitive to stimulants that anything can set you off
Been strung out on benzos many times over the years, Xanax/ benzo addiction is one of the worst chemical dependencies you can acquire. I love the feeling of freedom and blankness of emotions for a while, but it makes me do reckless shit.
Did for me too. Took a bar, had a couple of drinks, I was at a restaurants with some friends and one of them was heckling me a bit, so I stood up and just knocked him out cold. Didnt feel anything. He was fine just had a concussion but I never touched the stuff again.
@@andersonandrew112 yeah man when I go out it’s one or the other. Xanax lowers my inhibitions and, at least to me, feels like a cleaner version of being drunk. Lets me strike up conversations pretty easily, but I don’t mix that shit. I’ve been out with friends that didn’t start fights or anything, but I had to basically babysit.
"we're not supposed to be happy all the time" preach man!
Why not
@@TH-mb8io because if we'd have nothing to compare it to, happy would no longer be happy.
@@pyramid3811 fair enough for a sense of euphoria. However, what about being content all the time
@@TH-mb8io being content is different from being happy all the time. being content is just having an understanding of your living situations and life to know enough that things will be better if they get worse, not all of us have that luxury.
@@pyramid3811 agreed
I’ve been sober from alcohol and Xanax for 8 months today. Wish me luck guys! Cheers from SF
Cheers, couple years off Xanax for me. Are there any support groups here in SF that you go to?
Keep pushing!
Dont crack..he or she is never worth it.
Blessings!
good job my man. don't you give up
I called Xanax the "tomorrow" pill. Minutes after you take em it's tomorrow
Alan sad but true
Yep, yup yup yup
Flubromazepam does that, too.
@A Google user Wait, so this shocks you? You abused your script and you ran out of your meds early and your freaking out because you can't get your script filled?
@A Google user go detox, they will taper you off most likely depending where you live or where your going . Benzo withdraw isn't fun. Can't take them daily if you gonna abuse them, because shit like this happens. Wish you well
I was heavily addicted to xanax from 2014-2018 and alcoholic from 2018-2021. Thank you God for changing my life! 5 years sober from xanax 2 years sober from alcohol 🙏
Congrats to you man 🥳 I've been on xanax since 2007 and a binge drinker since 2010. It's ROUGH to get off of
No you are not...
@@Claire-zg2diit is hard to get off of
No you are not…..what?
What is he not?
@@srdjanpiper6159 who are you talking to
You never, ever want to find yourself addicted to Xanax. I've been there, and I never want to go back. Xanax is not your friend.
😭
An insanely wild ride from a mellow high. I can’t comprehend it. Agree - stay away
100% agree. i think if we knew our addiction and withdrawl was just as serious as coke,opiats, yatta yatta we wouldent have been addicted for so long. stay away from the devils drug
@Cantwait4summer the way to do it is with alot of cbd and\or thc edibles. Another form of benzo with a small dosage to taper off. With an anti seizure medication. And pure prayer. The first 3 days are the hardest. Get through that you'll start feeling "eh i can beat this". Im the biggest xanax addict. Plz trust me. I was on 6mgs a day. Yes 60mgs. 30 bars. Not no more in Jesus name. Well like down to 4-5 but graudually going down 💯💨🤙🙌🙌🙌
Cantwait4summer I didn’t get addicted I just bought about 50 bars as a one-off and kept eating them till I came out of a blackout being told and shown videos of myself being a zombie. My weakness is in binging not addiction
My doctor prescribed me 2mg Xanax a day. She said it would just be for 2-3 weeks until the anti-anxiety medication kicked in. She did not tell me the next 6 months of my life would be hell trying to quit. The panic attacks I got trying to quit were 10X worse than any panic attack that I had before.
If you can go 5 to 6 days of those panic attacks, they are easy because the worse of it goes away after like 5 days
Xanax is usually prescribed for it's almost instant anti-anxiety properties. It doesn't take a few weeks to start working. One pill is all it takes. They can even be taken during a panic attack and are commonly prescribed for that because they work so well.
There are plenty of anti anxiety medications that do take a few weeks to work. Most are non Benzos though.
@@josephgeorgeejr7039search ‘benzo PAWS’
Same. The cure was worse than the ailment imo. Hardest withdrawals I ever had out of all the withdrawals was Xanax. Coming off each time I was usually in jail lol go figure. Glad I’m 15 years off from playing with psyche meds.
So true 😖😖
Xaxax is hell
Xanax is like having a time machine that only goes forward and steals all you stuff
Sooo true someone put an OD amount in my drink trying to kill me thank God my doctor new exactly what it was before it was too late.
@@ianeugenechapman7975 correct, however normal doses of benzodiazepines in conjunction with other drugs or alcohol can cause respitory failure fairly quick. Dont use benzos, don't you wanna remember the fun you've had
@@Uthando-h1q careful around bars, clubs dude
@@Darth-Hylian use phenibut, same feeling but you remember it all
god so well said
I started doing drugs since my teenage, got addicted to opioid. Spent my whole life fighting opioid addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 4 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
Took 5-10 Xanax bars a day for about 9 months. Quit cold turkey, had a violent seizure 2 days later. Be careful.
Damn man. How could you even function? Not well I suppose. Cold Turkey was dangerous, it could've killed you bro. Glad your better.
@@26michaeluk bit of an exaggeration I suppose, at the start I was taking 1-2 then tolerance built up fast. Before you know it your missing days and weeks of your life. Scary fuckin stuff. I dunno how doctors can prescribe that poison to someone and sleep at night. Thanks for the kind wishes appreciate it man!
@Constitution101 369 do you ever get motivation and concentration back after getting off vyvanse
Hot yoga can help alot. I know it has helped me. Never been on anything.
@@rotyler2177 yet
Physical Activity: improves mood and libido
Side effects: strong ass core
Multiple studies have been done where it's basically do "x" amount of exercise for this long and the amount of people who report positive effects are like 60%
Nothing beats coke and booze.
@@skrelentless nothing besides my 500 morning ab crunches duudeeee
anxiety causes tiredness and high stress controls the way of breathing. physical activity is the last solution.
@@sidahmed789 haha..
Who’s Sarah Tonin? And how do I meet her
I've been looking for the bitch 4 while, I give up now.
She lives in alaska I think.
Garry's benevolent sister
I heard that she’s related or closely associated to Sharon Peters, but I’m not positive.
She’s 5ft11
I was out on adhd meds as a kid, and in order to counter the bad side effects, my parents and doctor put me on a bunch of SSRIs, primarily Zoloft. I don't take the ADHD meds anymore (they caused so much harm) but I can't get off Zoloft. If I go one 24 hours without it I'll have migraines and the worst nausea imaginable. If your kid is not performing well in school or hasn't been in a good mood, please consider making changes in their life and education rather than mess with the chemical composition of their brains, especially when they are still developing. The combination of these dangerous meds mixed with traumatic events have led me down an extremely dark path, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
migraines are fkn nuts - you need to seek a natural medicine based doctor with stocks of knowledge on this - i bless you in your discovery
I agree soo much man. 90's and 2000's doctors were handing that shit out like candy. It's way better to make other changes before messing with their developing brain chemistry. I hope life is good now man!
Praying for you Ziggy 🙏🏾
What’s wrong with ADHD meds? All the kids took them in the 90s and 00s and are fine???
@@stevesharpe3370 lol no we aren't. Most of us suffer from varying degrees depression, anxiety, and are dependent on a medication to not feel sick lol
Nearly died on xanex. It’s a beast. 4 yrs sober from it.
Juke congrats man, you're a beast
how ya feel today?
What?! Congratulations man God bless you!
Good 4 you. I got a benzobeast wearing me down right now. I hate that guy...
Good job! Keep it up!
One year clean of Xanax I was addicted for three years, I wasted away to nothing. But everyday I'm thankful to be here
C G great job! Keep it up
hope its still going well for you bud!
I was on ativan for years and went the through the same thing. Its tough man. Good for you stay strong.
Congrats bro. I'm in 8 months, let's try to keep it up ight?
Me too man !
I bet half his elves are on drugs.
Hahahhahahah rite over my head first time around how else could they get it all done in one night with out the oxycontin and adderall
You miss a lot but this was good
Hahaha! Fuckn gold
Lmao. Yes
Rudolph need a little boost this year
I got Xanax prescribed by a doctor for anxiety. I had never even heard of Xanax. Was fully hooked after the first bar. I did them for about 9 months. Most of that time was a complete blackout. Wrecked a car, lost a job, went to jail and even pissed the bed a time or two. So I decided to quit cold turkey. I went from have hundreds of milligrams in my system to zero. Was the worst 2 weeks of my life. Have never been so sick and literally thought I was gonna die. The irony is, I took them for anxiety and the addiction and all the bs that comes with it caused way more anxiety. I really can’t believe that doctors put people on that drug everyday.
It’s not the doctors fault you abused your medication
@@Joel-cw1gd think b4 talkin bro THINK
@@Joel-cw1gd how does the Xanax work for your anxiety?
Good thing you’re okay bro quitting benzos cold turkey can kill you. Hope ur doing netter
Did you suffer any seizures?
“That’s crazy. Have you ever done DMT?”
That's cool and all but I'm going to tell you about my sober October experience
Errllluup!!
✨😂✨
@@oliverocket yeah but have you heard of cbd ?
I’m assuming you all are just joking around, but if not, Joe wouldn’t have anything to talk about, and him referring to things is what makes him so interesting to listen to. It does get redundant because while we watch often, most of his guests don’t.
I had a few years where panic attacks were killing me. They were so bad I lost control of motor functions. Tried Xanax twice and chose the panic attacks - that is one nightmare of a drug. Ultimately, going to the gym every morning and then swimming at night fixed me right up.
There is no doubt that benzodiazepines are bad…but I work out daily as well..
I still have major sensory panic attacks with extreme dizziness..actually they are getting worse..my BP is super low..so that’s being looked into..
Exercise is amazing..no question
But it didn’t cure all for me..at least for anxiety
Really there’s kinda nothing that works for some people…
I'm suffering greatly day 6 Xanax withdrawal. I feel insane, detached broke reality. Such weird insane stuff going on, I feel like I'm losing my mind. I thought I might be getting better but it's gotten worse the last couple days. Lots of panic attacks too. Praying this nightmare will end soon.
@@robertalust5466 benzos are the reason why the blood pressure is low. I experience that. I really wanna get off Xanax. Went from 3mg a day to 1,5mg 1,75 yesterday. I wish I could just wake up and my panic disorder disappears.
@@Topofthetopapex I hear you..
I wish mine would disappear too…
It’s a tough existence to struggle with panic disorder..and all the tools learned in therapy can go right out the window in the middle of a severe attack…it’s why benzodiazepines really work as that rescue…but they aren’t good long term at all..
Good for you for tapering..that must be difficult
My low BP is from really severe anemia..
Blood transfusions and iron transfusions can help with that..
Tried Xanax twice..... That's ridiculous
I remember quitting Xanax my first week at college in 2013. I had taken adderal and Xanax every single day in high school as my doctor prescribed. I still remember withdrawing in my dorm room, forcing myself to go to the library to study, and literally hearing sounds and voices in my head in the quiet library. Took about 3 weeks to feel “normal” after 4 years of every day use. I would go on to substitute alcohol for the Xanax for the next 3 years until I quit drinking cold turkey too. That was much harder, took 5 months clean before I felt better and not in a mind fog. Sober life is boring but life gets boring as you get older anyway.
Sick Revolting Piss nah, you just have to find sober people to be around. Sobriety trumps addiction...hands down!
LOL it does get more boring as you get older, for sure. 😂
@Sick Revolting Piss You are a champion! I hope you are doing well even if you are bored. Peace
First off it depends on how much MG Xanax u were taking. I had a seizure taking 4-5 Xanax a day and decided to go cold turkey. The worse mistake ever. Xanax is a med where u NEED TO WEEN or taper off of. Even an ER doctor told me that. If you are just taking 1 mg it shouldn’t. 4-5 bars a day and cold turkey u will go into a seizure and the only way to counter that is take a bar and u will snap out of it.
life doesn't have to get more boring as you get old. just find new hobbies and things that interest you
I was on Xanax for almost 15 years. I got off of it in 2020 best thing I've done in my life. At some point you have to realize it's easier to deal with anxiety than addiction
Can u tell me how u got off currently trying to come off slowly and I fighting demons here
@@ryanjoyce728don’t go cold turkey slowly slowly lower dosage to 3/4 2/4 /1/4
I agree, benzos are monsters! Alcohol and benzo withdrawal can kill you.
@Артём Волков
It's not a myth.
Most deaths from alcohol withdrawal are due to delirium tremens, an extreme form of alcohol withdrawal.
Try to go through an oxycodone withdrawal!! Good luck my friend. Just imagine the worst flu possible x10.
Mark D dude it’s not like that at all...10x the flu? Have you ever had the flu? Benzo withdrawal is worse than the flu and certainly much worse than opiate withdrawal.
Bullshit. I sat in jail for 30 days due to a bar fight coming off Xanax 2mg and booze been taking it everyday for 2 to 3 years at 30 years old. 7 days in i was feeling normal again. Unless you are a weak minded fuck you are not dying.
@@michaelcapo5512
I took 10mg of zanax a day for 20 years at 30 years old and got off of it in 24 hours, no problem. yall are just weak little people and I'm alpha AF!
Joe “I’ve talked to intelligent people” Rogan
durrr
@@traviscooke148 hurrr durrr?
I know right? Mr. High IQ Rogan. How about acknowledging the intelligent guy right in front of you dipshit?
haha this is my favourite one of these!
@@ZobethC yes
Xanax made me forget litteraly a decade of my life and nothing to show for it glad I'm off that I was prescribed for 15 years straight
Me to friend. Was clean for four years until two Weeks ago. Now I'm 2 Days clean and feel like Hell. Guess my brain had forgotten the withdrawel from these little suckers. It's torture.
Mann I don’t remember my 20s it’s unreal such a stupid move
@@Herbalattraction3000 stay up bro! Withdraw will pass eventually , I know it doesn’t seem like it sometimes
@Ian Dixon You can do it Ian. You gotta let people know you want to stay clean!
Did you take it daily? That’s insane!!
The issue with severe depression and anxiety is that when people tell you to do exercise you don’t have the confidence or motivation to do so and the longer it goes on the worse it gets and the harder it is to do that, feels like you’re stuck in a deep hole and it just keeps getting deeper
idk you but i love you. it’s hard to not beat yourself up about that stuff but don’t let em have access to your emotions like that. People say that stuff to try to get a reaction out of you.. i’ve also been in that severe depressive state as well I was addicted to adderall from 15-18 and i’m 21 now and still recovering.. It feels like a hopeless cycle of guilt and shame but don’t give up! say your affirmations/prayers/manifestations and keep pushing💯Trust me it’s tough thinking about the big picture/end goal when you can barely get out of bed or brush your teeth but when you hit rock bottom the only way is up🙏You don’t gotta become some body builder, just focus on making ONE small tiny change at a time. Whether that’s go to bed earlier or eat X food instead of Y. Reach out if you ever need a friend you got me!
@@sarahko1014
I’ve never read such an accurate description of what I go through daily. Additionally, I also feel like beating myself up for not being in a position to be motivated/confident and as a result, not being able to exercise or do simple things like that. Thank you kindly for your words and I wish you all the best with your journey as well.
- a Canadian
@@sarahko1014what are u talking about people are not telling u to try exercise to provoke you they are trying to be caring and give genuine advice
The thing is thought, that you can exercise even in your home, no need to go anywhere, but I get it can be difficult if you just can't find the motivation to even start it. If you don't exercise at all, this will surely on it's on cause a depression.
I take psych meds, and I wish I didn’t, and I do all the other stuff: ie lots of exercise, healthy food, meaningful social life, etc. It’s best to not take anything if you can, but it’s obnoxious to hear people who don’t need psych meds to tell you about them. Obviously they’re overprescribed, pharmaceutical companies have a profit incentive, and changing your habits is the best thing, but maybe Joe Rogan and Dr Wily Beardo here don’t know exactly what’s going on with me or other people
Benzo withdrawals are like that feeling you get from nails on a chalkboard..... except you feel like that all the time
A safe taper is a lot better than cold turkey. You still feel bad, but not like you're dying
Illtempo 1980
...got that right.
klonopin withdraw is worse than oxycontin. i took both for 15yrs. got off the oyxes in 6mo.
it took over a yr.of "all my bones are trying to climb out of my body" to get off the klonopin .
@@fourdeadinohio8303 i honestly dont think ones worse i think its based on the person and the ammount because oxycontin was way harder then xanex to quit for me.. like 10 times harder physically and mentally
@@user-vz2sy7tx3w ..i can relate.
i had 3 back surgeries in the 90s and was taking 8 vicodins a day when oxycontin came out. i stared out with 2 5mg.
by 2015 i was taking 4 90mg. and 2 percs a day plus 3 klonopins.
i look back and can't even think how i functioned. just glad i'm not going thru withdraw any more.
Depression is debilitating and is a disease...try and tell a person that can't eat,shower get out of bed or even feel love to just go exercise.Dont act like an expert until you are in that situation
Deborah Callahan Just go exercise you lazy fuck.
I agree completely! It’s bothersome that people who have never experienced major depression tend to liken it to a more intense version of sadness. It is nothing slightly related to sadness. Unexplainable really.
@Deborah Hesselblad. Well said. Easy to talk about how bad it is. But when you feel better from taking medicine that helps you. It’s a lifeline to many.
Thank you!
Yes you’re right. For some people like me however we had symptoms of anxiety/depression in response to trauma. I was prescribed a cocktail of meds for my PTSD and it helped rid me of the pain of it in the short term. 8 years after the initial prescription I felt it was time to come off. I think the point of what the doctor is saying is that these medications are over prescribed which I think they are.
Benzo withdrawal is absolutely awful. You take the drug in the first place to mitigate anxiety. Withdrawal for me was anxiety so terrible that my skin was crawling.
YEa. It just defers the anxiety so when you stop it all hits you at once. I just remember for 3 weeks my vision was blurry and my head was at war. Fireworks going off.
Feeling of an inexplicable dark coldness, not even a hot bath can heat u up
I didn’t take it very many times , but when I did the anxiety the next day was off the charts
Lol how much were you taking
That's why there is a process of getting off of it that takes a few weeks to many months.
After 10 years of living on Benzos and alcohol i finally ended up in a psychiatric ward before going into rehab. I was so paranoid, anxious, neurotic and in so much pain that every day i thought i was going to die. It was like having a panic attack 24/7. It took at least 10 months before I started feeling somewhat "normal" in my own skin.
Xanax and other benzos are no joke.
I enjoy Xanax.
@@OrangeDiamond33 Yeah, that's the problem. They make you feel great. But if / when they get a hold of you then you're in deep shit.
I’ve been clinically depressed most of my life and I have also been sober for eight months from alcohol and this clip inspired me to write a book about it
Good job man. Gabaergics are the absolute worst substances to use daily.
I honestly think alcohol is far worse than benzos as well.
Good man.
What was causing self-educating?
Yep great idea 💡
write another generic book about sobriety-
Just what the world needs.
@@wilyinfidel1091 💀💀
Ordinary states of sadness? You're not suppose to be happy all the time. Go figure.
I love and respect this doctor. I used to follow him years ago, can’t wait to watch the full interview.
Tolerance got up to 8 a day back in junior year, in a span of 6 months and I didn’t care if they were real or not, shit was bad. Fucked my family dynamic up, had about 6+ seizures trying to quit and had my mom trying to wake me up from 2+ of them. Had no concept of cold turkey. Couldn’t eat n was throwing up bile for a wk. I was 5’11” and dropped to 140 after quitting. What they said about anxiety and depression is 100% true. The negative thoughts don’t stop and they make u change as a person. Been clean since quarantine started and haven’t looked back. Hope this motivates someone to stop!
Respect that you were able to pull that off during quarantine
Yeah the seizures are the worst total blackout until u wake up and don't know what the is goin on,I didn't have any for a few days and end up buying a pack I took 2 1mg xanax and the minute they kicked in I literally fell to the ground walkin through the city ,woke up against a wall with 2 grocery store staff standing in front of me ,i just got up and walked off didn't know what I was doing ,xanax is crazy won't be touching them again
@enjoi gaming adopt a philosophy stronger than the drug, good luck in the battle over yoursef
I was addicted to Xanax about 15 years ago...the withdrawal is insane
It is hell, well done for kicking it,im still a long way to go yet 😔
@@TommyTripper hey tommy , just seeing this. How’s it going man?
Hope you kicked it brother! @TommyTripper
From 24 yrs old to 29. 2 years straight of minimum 1mg xanax a day and 5 years of minimum 40mg of hydrocodone a day. Was a living hell to kick. DONT EVEN START!!!
In my humble opinion, the worst kind of addiction is that of alcohol. Not only does it deprive you of any human dignity, but it also ruins your entire body.
Real panic attacks are just as intense as a withdrawal.
If you live with insane ptsd style anxiety all your life...
Withdrawals are laughable.
Pint in 15 seconds when I was 12..
58 cans in one day
, 15 top shelf long Islands.
Almost a whole bag of wine, 12 pack, half gallon of whiskey and vodka..
That Almost killed me.
Bartenders thought I was a freak of nature.
I started shaking when I smelled whiskey.. stopped immediately no problem.
Just blacked out for a week from Xanax last refill.
Will easily forget about them again.
Meth and Opioids were laughable.
Cigarettes I need intense work outs and keep busy.
But I'll suck ya off for a can of soda.. I need my high fructose and caffeine.
everyone is different
@DevilFetusso can benzo wirhdraw
Alcohol is insidious because it is so culturally accepted and is basically everywhere.
Yes ! Almost got me. 4 years sober from good ol Captain Morgam March 2.
Been sober from cocaine and Xanax for 3 years now , sadly though my friend did not make it , he passed about 3 years back from Xanax pressed with fentanyl . If you struggle you can get better , it’s hard but it’s possible , you got this ❤️
Sooo sorry I sure hope so I know the fucking feeling
Ur friend's name wouldn't be lil peep would it?
@@jcruz3114 hilarious
❤️much 😀
From 2010 to 2013 I was a Xanax addict following the suicide of my mate. At the height of my addiction I ate 18mg a day.
An average day was 5 of the 2mg bricks. The withdrawals were horrendous, took me six months to taper off, and twelve months to be totally off the benzos. There is so much of my life from that period that I just don't recall.
Durf.
Wow how did you do it that’s amazing
you basically have erased memory i am dealing with same issues, i cant remeber verses its terrible
Joe "I wasn't high as a kite for one month" rogan
Joe ‘cbd cures everything’ rogan
But Joe didn't start smoking weed all the time because a qualified medical professional told them it would fix his depression and didn't mention how addictive it can be did he? Also when was the last time you took a month long break from the antidepressants you're obviously taking?
Dr.4G Yeah I know, right. "I had no alcohol or dope or other drugs for a month. .... Wasn't the effect of the exercise on my brain amazing!" Uh yeh right Joe, it was the exercise. Coz y'know you don't exercise in the other months, the exercise will be it. Uh huh.
@@tomstokoe5660 You wouldn't tell a heart patient to stop taking their heart medication for a month. You wouldn't tell a diabetic to stop taking their insulin for a month. Mental illness is no different.
@@floydian51 You can cure/prevent most cases of diabetes and heart disease with diet and exercise. Mental illness is no different.
I had taken Xanax for 10 years! I’m two years sober now. I had to gradually get off them with small dose or tiny pieces also I found Rhodiola and Ashwagena worked wonders for my anxiety, not having a panic attack, and overall withdrawal. First year was uplifting momentum for being strong enough to know to get out now. And year 2 here I am researching chemical reaction and effects it has on the mind and body. I think that’s awesome about GABA because I started taking supplements for my chemical imbalance and Gaba I take daily. I miss the high of being “Happy” all the time. I was addicted to instant gratification. I had to re learn my emotions again because I had forgotten what it was like to feel anything other than happy. Someday I want to write a book. The toll it has on your mind and body is something I never saw or heard about to anyone who has got off Xanax. I just want to say you are stronger than you know! 🏆And I hope you are now living life to the fullest!❤️✊
Can I ask what your daily dose was at the time of kicking it?
2 years sober? Congratulations.
How did you determine you were "addicted"?
I've been on Xanax for about 20 years. I've tried tapering for months to like .5 most but I usually take 3mg a day and that's what I'm on and been on for years now. How do I get off this crap. It's terrible withdrawals, horriblle
@@NonBathingApe6969 i would buy me Gold scale (precision scale) and crush those pills and take every week 1% of the pills in less than of 2 years you are drug. Your body will change but your mind has also to change you have to hate those Xanaxs.
It's easy to say but it's worse than anything I've ever been on. And believe me I've done my share of substances in my life. Hands down the worst withdrawal, it's like opioid withdrawal but hallucinating, seizures, 4 times I've tried and failed. Damn near thought I was gonna die the last time. I have bad anxiety and panic attacks but I'm so sick of being dependent on it. The only way I could see it might happen would be a slow snail taper for a year smh
It amazes me people still think Pharma companies have your best interests at heart.
For me, a 1.5g shroom trip lying on a field watching the clouds go by with a couple of good friends worked very well.
Amen
Eat the whole eighth mannn
I’ve done this and can agree with your statement
agreed
My Mistake was taking Way too many Shrooms without Waiting a single Day Between each Trip - HPPD isn't too Fun; 8 Months Later and I have Anxiety, Constant Tracers and "Flashbacks" where I start to Trip a Bit. Shrooms are Fun, but you Gotta be Careful as you should with Any Other Drug!
"Xanax is terrible!"
- So how much did you take?
"25mg a day"
- Come again?
This is way too common
I got 7 months clean off the xannys feel good.... I miss them tho floating around in the plaid pantry for 20 mins getting snacks then I time travel back to my place and wake up in my computer chair covered in twinky rappers
@@devantepoe2684 It is a devilishly good feeling, stupid though it may sound to non-users. With all the time I wasted nodding out in my teens and twenties, I could've had a PhD! I kicked a nasty heroin habit _in a flash_ compared to the trouble I've had with benzos, especially Xanax. Now the cartels are making their own 'bars' and putting fentanyl in them -- plus y'know Flacco's dirty hands are touching 'em -- so if there ever was a reason to stay away, that's two.
I was taking 8 of the 4mg pills a day
@@bveracka I'm kicking a 23 year long Xanax habit right now. Been 4 1/2 months clean after tapering off for a while with medical assistance. I took them as prescribed cause of severe anxiety and never did them to get high really. An average of 0.5-0.75mg 4-5 times a week. Now I'm struggling with terrible head tremors and muscle spasms. Like my central nervous system is in a constant fight or flight mode. Inner tremors, muscle tension, body "zaps", uneven heart rate, heat waves, constant anxiety. The list of withdrawal symptoms is long. Some say the symptoms could last for years, ref Ashton Report.
Xanax probably saved my life. I had severe panic attacks when I started attending college in my early 20s. Got suicidal it was so bad, for me benefits of taking it far outweighed the risks.
Really i have panic attacks would that help me
James Smith it absolutely will. First I recommend working out daily to burn off your stress as it’s most likely the cause of your attacks. Fix the triggers around your attacks as much as you can and try to get a dr to prescribe you a low dose of Xanax or Ativan.
did you try working out 4 hours a day? did you eat bread? did you dose magnesium? or did you just jump on Xanax?
Heck yeah, me too and I get to keep all my cognitive abilities, zan has a bad rep. And never addictive for me, alot of times I don't even remember to take during non anxiety times
Really Xanax ruined my life
When you have a severe depression, exercise is completely out of reach, you just don’t have enough energy to get out of bed, forget exercising. First step is always and will always be looking inwards: sit with your depression, listen to it, listen to what are you responding to with a depressed state, find the source which is ALWAYS a trauma, and then find a good enough trauma therapist and take a long, hard road of regulating yourself and healing. This way you will improve your quality of life not for a few weeks but long-term, and once you start feeling better, regaining your energy level, this is when you start exercising.
If Xanax grew on trees, Joe would love them.
🤣 If Xanax grew on trees. The entire world would be in chaos...oh wait. 😑
opioids are made from plants
Actually the first benzodiazepines were synthesised from baldrian. So it kinda comes from nature.
@@dr.livesey7595 SYNTHESIZED
@@dr.livesey7595 reread your comment, houses are made out of nature it doesn't mean they're natural
I've tried those breathing techniques, and I must say. Its also a placebo effect. Easier said then done when you have someone who genuinely suffers from anxiety and PTSD. Working out is key tho, I think that is the base to everything positive mind body and soul
Everyone talks about the horrors of benzo's but its really dependent on the person. I personally have 2 people in my family that used benzo's for 10 years for anxiety and never went over a certain dose and were able to eventually taper down and come off in reasonably quickly. Personally speaking, xanax was a life saver during a long battle with Lyme Disease due to the ailments it caused with my nervous system. I also have a family member who was into all kinds of drugs and just kept loading up on xanax he bought off the street to the point of addiction and ruin. It's not the drug, because these drugs do have legitimate uses for people with chronic illness, disorders, and disease -- it's how the drug is managed. It doesn't just take over your life.
@@smart_for_a_retard Man, I relate to so much of what you said including the part about making fun of people that breath in bags. I used to think anxiety and panic attacks were people just putting on a show, but then a Lyme Disease infection hit me like a truck. To make a long story short it, felt like my fight or flight response was constantly "on." Adrenaline surging, feeling like i was going to puke, heart racing, mind racing around the clock, insane anxiety -- the only thing that would touch it during that period was Xanax. Nothing else they tried worked. It was the only thing that would allow me to get a few hours of sleep and to calm the nausea and racing mind while i was awake.
I fear that videos like this and the addiction stories could one day get these drugs taken off the market completely when they can be life savers to the people that really need them and take them responsibly for a reason. I wish more stories like yours got out there rather than the stories you hear about people taking xanax at parties and becoming pill junkies etc.
Glad you made it through brother and were able to tell your story. All the respect.
2b Blue you guys ever try marijuana? I feel like it would be a way healthier but what do I know I never went through what you guys did It...this was pretty much the only positive comment I saw and it was intriguing.
@@strappedserpent8383 Definitely understand where you're coming from. I've tried it and it can be hit or miss for me. Sometimes it's calming and relaxing, but other times i either don't get much out of it or the paranoia kicks up too much for my liking. If I could get to a point where it just makes me feel 'normal' and relaxed without feeling groggy or 'drunk' like Xanax can do, I'd be game (and no paranoia). .
dr malcom ladder (an expert on benzodiazepines) estimates only 30% of people who use benzos will go through a really hard withdrawal.
its mainly due to genetics. ive known people that have taken benzos for 2 to 4 weeks who are completely disabled from it. it was prescribed by a doctor too.
I have worked out hardcore my whole life. However, I actually discovered at some point that a lot of my anxiety was actually because of too much exercise. It increased my cortisol levels too high, too often. Generally, exercise is obviously good for you, but I don't think that hardcore exercise or even a little exercise will cure everyone's problems.
My dad was schizophrenic. He would hallucinate sometimes, but mostly it manifested as severe crippling depression, the kind where he was practically catatonic. After his first suicide attempt via overdosing on his meds, he lost his job. Later mom left for another man because she couldn't handle working 2-3 jobs anymore just to make ends meet, and honestly I couldn't blame her, though I sure as hell tried to. Shit was fucked up. But from the lowest point of his life he got back up on his feet and made something of his life again. He seemed...maybe not exactly happy but content with his life. Then one day he decided he felt so good about himself and where he was at that he went off his meds without anyone knowing. A week later he shot himself in the heart. He didn't come back from that.
Fucking rebound.
Vorpal Cheezit I got cut cold turkey off valium after 5 years..I ended up in the ICU after a failed suicide attempt.It took me 6 months after that.Constant suicidal ideation. Sorry for your loss.
Vorpal Cheezit I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine your pain and loss. Doctors really need to emphasize with their patients that yes you will start feeling better on these meds, and that means that they are working, it does not mean you are cured and should stop the medication but if your thinking about it please come see me immediately before doing so. But they don’t do that, but they need to. They overlook to many things. My doctor years ago failed to tell me that you can’t take benzos and ambien together it can be deadly, and I did that a lot. All the docs wanna do is push the latest and greatest they get kickbacks for prescribing. Anyway, again I’m sorry about your dad. God bless and happy holidays.
Vorpal Cheezit
I’m so sorry for your loss, God be with you and God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏💯
Vorpal Cheezit so sorry you had to witness that. Must have been so hard for all involved. May he RIP.
sorry for your loss
I stopped consuming alcohol, stopped benzo addiction and antidepressants. It was so hard, the withdrawal symptoms were hell, even after 2 years still had symptoms, and detox teas and exercise really helped me.
how are you feeling these days?
If detox teas and excersise was enough then you clearly wasn't depressed.
The problem with joes simple take on ssri's is the semantics of the word "depression". Depression is a normal human emotion, you lose a loved one or a job and you feel sad. This is not what ssri's are for. Major Depressive Disorder aka Clinical Depression is an entire different ball game and is a medical emergency. Dramatic biological and physical effects that make simply getting out of bed near impossible let alone being productive or going to work. Thats why it is so simple for the 95% of the population who have never had clinical depression to say "ahhh just toughin up think positive"... I assure you if that was possible these people would do so. Imagine being surrounded by billions of dollars puppies and the people you love the most and feeling no joy and all you have is dizziness mind fog and gut wrenching hopelessness. Thats what clinical depression is, its not effected by your life situation or thinking patterns. Its a biological disorder where the feeling of calm or joy is impossible to experience. Its an isolating nightmare I wouldnt wish on my worst enemy, like sinking into an abyss and nobody can pull you out as you spiral down. For these people with the actual medical condition of mdd/clinical depression, ssri's are a life raft in the darkest of seas. If you dont understand what I am saying consider yourself lucky you arent in the percentage of people who have to go through that living hell.
Yep. People who say "omg I'm like so depressed I felt sad for like, a long time" can come talk to me when they have lost any will to live to the point where they piss themselves in bed rather than move a single muscle. If maintaining a heart beat required conscious effort, I would have stopped that too. Fuck, I was so bad I may as well have literally been dead for several months.
In the video they mention that it should be used short term for major depression. Which yes it should cause all drugs have deminishing returns. It should just be used to stabilize someone and then get them psychological help. Psychiatrist have become the voodoo witch doctors of the current age.
Depression is like sharing a room with a giant black bear. Can't play dead like one would to get rid of a grizzly, it must be fought. Some days you'll wake up with that black bear sitting right on your chest and it won't move an inch if unless you fight. You're still fighting a wild animal that outweighs you by 800 pounds, but even putting up a small fight will make it back off a little. That bear will never go far, but you don't have to let it eat you, there are options out there.
Very insightful. Everything is subjective. With todays rampant sin/cruelty apathy is a go to for egophiles and average people alike. Pathy must be pounded into many people with a sledgehammer, or putting them in that position so they can feel it. Not everyone of course....but trends are not built on humanity.....it's virtue signaling, short term reward, applying labels, shifting blame....etcetera. Net benefit for me and F U because your problems must be self induced. A common social construct among populations (whom are no longer the ones creating social constructs) is that all fixes are available to those whom attempt to seek them as our countries are superiour so F everyone and I will just work to prove how virtuos I am. BS. In my country it is an absolute socialist illusion that fools everyone.
Your description of this disorder is excellent however it was required that you deliver it in a way that a child could grasp it.....would anyone even bother reading it all? Everyone is already so great and brilliant that many I would bet would immediatly feel superiour......I'm really guessing here, but we do have serious problems ingrained in society threw engineered constructs.
youre not understanding what Joe is saying. There may be imbalance chemically in the sufferers of depression but there are many many other means to achieve improvement on there mental health that don't involve taking a serious medication with serious side effects and also can generally out perform these drugs. Unfortunately it's the fact that a pill is easier to swallow then making serious lifestyle changes like beginning to exercise, getting a healthy diet, enough sleep, sun exposure etc etc.
I was prescribed Lyrica for my neuopathy (my hands often went numb) after chemotherapy. Nobody told me that it was also prescribed for anxiety, and so when it didn't work to treat the neuropathy, and I quit it cold-turkey, I had INSANE mood swings.
Wher talking about Xanax not lyrica buddy
as a drug addict myself i always preach this to people that wanna do drugs "its ok to do it here and there but its not gonna stop the issues its just gonna help hold it back once that drug is gone everything you try to bury is gonna come out and that is whats gonna make you keep taking them"
Edit: all my therapist warn me about the addiction sides of my meds but i guess its depends on where you are
I died from xanax 5 years ago. Still don't feel the same.
Try interval training, if you're having trouble exercising in the coffin look up Dr. Sperg, has some good tips on micro exercises.
lenikrof you died from Xanax? No you didn’t. You can’t fatally overdose on Xanax alone.
r/quityourbullshit
@@Gamerfanize well I did, and there is nothing anyone can do to prove otherwise. r/ekt
VillYum lol seriously?
Green Legend google it
God bless this man. We need more doctors with integrity
I have a friend finishing up med school who’s probably the smartest person I know. He’s experimented with all kinds of drugs (weed, coke, acid, shrooms, ketamine, etc.) but Xanax is the one thing he said he would never touch.
TRUE MAN
I’m a 25 year old fit male eat healthy and workout and I had social anxiety so bad my face would turn red anytime someone talked to me and anti depressants cured that and now I can stay calm in any social situation so they clearly work
Me too man they worked me for me- I got my life back thanks to Xanax
I had a depressive/anxious "episode" that derailed my life after freshman year of college (there was no significant lifestyle or circumstances changes to really indicate why it happened). I had to take a semester off to sort it out because I could barely function. My confidence was in the gutter, I had very little energy, I couldn't think clearly, and it took an incredible amount of effort to complete even simple tasks. I was able to recover and "reboot" my life with vigorous daily exercise which gave me structure as well as the mood elevating effects of exercise. I re-enrolled in university and things went quite well for ~2 years.
However, despite maintaining my almost obsessive workout routine, I slipped into another depression/anxiety "episode" and again my life went to pots and I fell out of a work out routine. I tried to replicate what had worked for me before by forcing myself to work out and have a structured life but it didn't work. I had no idea why the steps I had taken just a couple years earlier no longer were benefiting me and for some reason I was unable to get into a productive routine, especially working out - starting to work out is the hardest part as everyone knows and it becomes easier as you get into the routine and build up your fitness levels but for some reason it didn't get easier and I was like a zombie.
I was prescribed klonopin (benzodiazepine) for anxiety and it completely turned my life around. I didn't realize the extent of the negative impact anxiety had on my life and the klonopin was a lifesaver. I was on it for just over a year and it helped me "reboot" my life again and become an effective, productive person. The medicine has its risks but thankfully I had a very vigilant, thoughtful doctor who made sure I was prescribed reasonable amounts, used the medication to take steps to get back on track, and when I was back on track he tapered me off slowly as to avoid the withdrawal/rebound effects mentioned in this video.
Cliff notes: Exercise is great both physically and mentally but sometimes it isn't adequate on its own. Benzodiazepines can be an extremely effective tool when prescribed by a vigilant, experienced, and thoughtful doctor who understands how to mitigate the risks and get the most out of the medication. Unfortunately, there are loads of half-assed doctors out there who are uncaring money-grubbing types who are perfectly content with visiting a patient for ~15 minute appointments every month or two and write a prescription and forget about the patient until the next brief appointment in several weeks. Those types of doctors are how people get fucked by these drugs. I was very fortunate to just happen to have a very good doctor who was compassionate, very wary of the pros/cons of benzodiazepines, was very bright, and monitored my progress and prescriptions like a hawk.
very similar to my story. good for you man , you doing ok?
Dated a girl who has been on a rather large dose of Xanax most of her life.....she’d blackout conversations, run into furniture, very emotionally volatile, and her immune system was very weak and always low energy. Avoid at all costs.
She spread em tho? Bad. Did u help her?
Was prescribed Valium for PTSD & Anxiety, Vicodin for pain and Anti-Depressant for depression back in 1991 by the Veterans Administration.
I can tell you the benzo was by far the hardest both physically and mentally to stop taking.
I went through almost 1.5 years of mental issues before my brain finally balanced back out.
Today all I take is a multi vitamin and I can not tell you how grateful I am for my life.
✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
Currently in the middle of coming off my Xanax and it’s HELL
Its gonna hurt bro. Smoke some bud, that helps.
Stay in there bud, I was on xanax and heroin for over 8 years and have been clean for a while now, I know the hell all too well, stay in there my friend! Go to a medical detox facility if you don't think your body can handle it or you've been taking very high MG doses daily like i was (10-20mg) I had to go to a facility where they could give me clonodine so i wouldn't have a seizure and die. Stay safe and I hope you a speedy and safe recovery man.
Quit that shit now, man
Stay with it. I'm coming off Clonazepam and I know exactly what you are going through!!
Stick with it. Try adding CBDs when coming off (especially if you can get away with a tiny bit of THC as well)
i usually exercise regularly and did for the past 2 years. then hit a depressive episode and found myself unwilling to do many things all of a sudden; i quit my job, my exercise club, my gym, i didnt get out of bed to eat. i didnt feel terrible but i felt very numb and neutral with no desire for anything at all. this was actually really helpful with my sobriety, as i was newly sober and having no desire to even leave the house, see people and drink because i was so depressed was actually a benefit for that aspect of things.
i started going to therapy and that helped and also taking an SSRI that is helping which I don't intend on staying on long term. my mood is drastically better, i found a new job i can do and although my desire to exercise hasn't come back yet, I'm sure it will in due course.
exercise is wonderful for the mood but not the be all end all, i think.
He’s spot on with how drug companies are trying to convince everyone that regular human emotions and times of sadness and anxiety are somehow not normal and need to be treasured with a drug. People, everyone gets sad, everybody gets nervous or anxious. It passes, and there are ways to fix it that don’t involve highly addictive drugs
You've apparently never had a panic attack. It's not just being nervous occasionally.
@@aedsell youve apparently never tried sacking up and dealing with your shit
We're not talking about being sad every once in a while. You really don't know what chronic depression is?
I work out 6 days a week and have taken cbd my anxiety levels have stayed the same don’t shoot down stuff you don’t know
Super male vitality is the way to go!
HGH, elk meat and kettlebells
Fuck off is it my dad got some we had a few drops and sat there like ehh fuck all's happening about 3 hours later we had a legitimate sword fight with the old swords above his fireplace then had an argument
SMV is pretty dope! Gotta make sure you're working out though or else you get a boost in something else😏
Welcome to jonestown...!!! 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣
Duane Rackham What do you get a boost in if you’re not working out? 🤔
The problems is when someone (like myself) was given SSRIs as a kid or someone decides to just trust their doctors decision and finds themselves now on them for nearly 18 years. There seems to be no going back. They are too integrated into your brain and any attempt to remove them is a waking nightmare.
Hey buddy it's been 4 years now but just wanted to know how ur doing! Hope ur ok
@jonsegarra7308 I love the internet sometimes you are so sweet. Also wanted to check in hope you're well!!
@@slothonastick32 way too many negative and toxic people on the internet. I try to be 1 of the good ones! Thanx for the kind words
Exactly. I was prescribed them and left to my own devices for a decade. A periodic evaluation with a “professional” was required in order for the prescriptions to be refilled but it was more of a checkbox activity. At the time I trusted them and the process. You really do have to take hold of your own healthcare. Medical “professionals” in most cases can’t be trusted either due to lack of knowledge of lack of caring for the patient unfortunately. After a decade I was able to come off them with awful side effects. But these were something I shouldn’t have been on longer than 6-12 months just to get me through PTSD which was triggered by a terrible divorce I was going through and not some chemical imbalance or mental health issue.
I feel very fortunate to have escaped this horrible drug, I had it prescribed to me in high school and I took it for years before it was taken away, and it was tough no doubt but I didn’t even realize I had been addicted to it.
prescribing benzos to high school kids, holy fuck
I started talking Xanax in my early 20s now 30 years later they want me to stop , it's going to be Hell , I wish I'd never started taking them .
If you're on Xanax for years these fool Dr's should keep u on them the problem isn't being on them the problems start when they take them away!!!
I was on escitalopram (SSRI) for almost a year. It made it difficult to sleep, it barely worked, it destroyed my attention span, and the physical withdrawals were disgusting. I kept getting this nauseating electric shock sensation throughout my body every 20-30 seconds for a few weeks after stopping
I recently started self-medicating with marijuana edibles after it became legal here in Canada, and I've noticed a dramatic improvement in almost every aspect of my life. My stress and anxiety is reduced. My attention span has improved dramatically. It's as if I've gone back to having as much energy as I did in my early teen years. This is just from having a 10mg dose every couple days to keep a baseline amount in my system over time. I'm not even getting high.
i also took escitalopram and had the electric shock thingy after i stopped taking them.
i found it to be very annoying...
Lexapro withdrawals made me absolutely lose my shit. I took 10mg a day (sometimes 15mg) for a year, and it helped me a bit for about 2 months. After that it was just side effects so I went off them cold turkey. The next 2 weeks of my life were absolute hell. Fevers, insomnia, insane mental instability (crying to laughing hysterically within minutes), terrible mental fog, just to name a few. All of that just from an SSRI 😳. I cannot imagine what benzo withdrawals would be like...
I self medicated with indica THC oil for a bit, but eventually every single experience I had would turn into wild paranoia, even if I took as little as 10mg of THC...
Nowadays working out, meditation and journaling keep me relatively sane. Hopefully THC still does the job for ya, anxiety can be incredibly overwhelming at times.
I'm so glad to hear a dialogue about this.
It's easy to fall into the trap of taking all the professional advice and medication you can get when you have fallen down in life. People need to read more novels, use that imagination to create your own infinite universe.
On the day you die, possess a universe within yourself.
Harness wild thought and ride.
Don't be a passenger in life.
I agree with you. I don’t allow my mind to create like I used to and it’s so much harder to get through things. Wish I knew how to get past that. Any tips?
Joe “CBD oil as well” Rogan
🤣
Lol because there is some serious withdrawals from Xanax an cbd an non from opioids
@@bullycontracts7170 Cbd doesn’t cause withdrawals dumbass. Not all opioids cause withdrawals.
@@Cbd_7ohm all opioids do cause withdrawals you stupid fuck
@@bullycontracts7170 No dumbass. Naloxone is an opioid. Naltrexone is an opioid. Nalbuphrine is an opioid. Salvinorin a is an opiod. You aren’t educated about pharmacology so you don’t know what you’re talking about. An opioid is anything that binds to an opioid receptor. There are many opioids that cause no withdrawal.
Send a text
To my ex
Blame it on xanax
I’m glad I found this. I feel like this man could do a lot of positive for me
Exercise and diet do not guarantee that depression will go away. The pill helped me greatly. Some people really do need them. I am a lifelong exerciser and eat healthy. I am not overweight in any way. So dont go around using sweeping generalizations, we are individuals not dehumanized examples of things you dont even take but make you seem like people should listen to. And I did the fish oil thing. Give it a rest.
I have been sober from xanax for a year and 5 months now. I still struggle with temptation but its not impossible to beat your addiction!❤
Stay strong brother! May God be your shield and sword in your battle.
@@cesarvargas3994 you never beat an addiction….you manage it. If you think you e beat it, you will fall again.
What he fails to recognize is that benzodiazepines cause an iatrogenic brain injury because they downregulate the GABA-a receptors. Every single nerve-ending in the human body has a GABA receptor. When those receptors are downregulated, dependence occurs. This happens within 3 days of taking a benzo as prescribed. Many people, including myself, incorrectly think they are addicted to benzodiazepines because the body no longer recognizes its own GABA (the receptor is now turned 'off') and the body and brain begins to totally rely on the benzodiazepine. The body then hits tolerance and more of the drug is needed to get the same calming effect. This is NOT addiction. GABA and Glutamate regulate the body. When it gets flooded with GABA, the Glutamate skyrockets which is why *rebound anxiety* occurs along with hundreds of other unbearable symptoms and why it takes so long to recover from benzodiazepine withdrawal. The doctors and pharmaceutical companies do a good job of labeling everyone "addicted" when it's not accurate. A lot of the issue also lies in the fact that benzodiazepines and alcohol are the only two substances that can downregulate the GABA receptors in the body and brain. So when someone sees a person experiencing benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome, it looks a lot like alcohol withdrawals. Because a brain injury has occurred one cannot simply stop a benzodiazepine. It needs to be SLOWLY tapered over the course of months/years. It took me a year to taper off 1mg of Klonopin. I began having BWS and tolerance withdrawal symptoms for years while I was still on the drug and had no clue what was happening.
Thank you for sharing. It's very true what you say...
Well said I’m still struggling gabapentin is the only thing that stops Akathisia
Taking a benzodiazepine for 3 days straight does not cause physical dependence. Don’t spread misinformation.
@@whyumadtho355 i noticed some wd anxiety with taking 2mg for a week straight. it only lasted for 2 or 3 days tho. even after 3 months only wd for a week. now 6 month usage wrecked me for awhile. wasnt right for a few months
@@MrGrey-vo2og wd anxiety isn’t physical dependence and physical withdrawal. 3 days of use isn’t long enough to suffer physical withdrawal. Rebound anxiety yea definitely possible but physical withdrawals are a whole different beast.
im on an anti psychotic, before i was on meds i was stuck in my bed with crippling anxiety, i understand that pills are the last resort but without what im on , i would be dead.
Which anti psych out of curiosity? I was given an anti-psych for an extreme migraine in the hospital, just one dose. It gave me RLS for 3 weeks, for every hour of the day. And it also gave me extreme dysphoria, I felt like I was on a bad trip for those whole 3 weeks.
Fast forward a year later - another extreme migraine. When I get to the hospital I let them know "No anti-psychs". And what do they do? They IV me one. Two minutes pass and I turn to my sister with tears in my eyes and tell her I think they gave me one. She didn't believe me at first, but after another minute half my face was drooping and my leg muscles tightened so hard my fucking leg almost broke. So it gave me dystonia for a couple days. Had to stay on the cardio floor because my resting heart rate was 150-180 resting. They treated me like royalty those few days, I was on fentanyl+ativan almost 24/7.
I'm not a very vocal person, so I didn't try to take action against the hospital. But that whole hospital visit was essentially free, so I'm not complaining.
Anyways my body chemistry is very weird. I'm hyper sensitive to DXM, cannabis makes me vomit profusely, and a lot of other things. I just wish I could remember what medication they gave me so I can put it on my record/file not to ever administer it again. Aside from that, the only drug I take daily is morphine/other opiates. Fortunately (and unfortunately) opiates are the only drug I don't get extreme side effects from.
Meds make me feel like a zombie fuck that I’ll take the lows and the highs
Can we talk about the fact that at 17 yrs old I described symptoms of social anxiety disorder to my GP and was given 1mg of xanax per day... 18 yrs later I've been moved to 4mg a day and asked repeatedly to be weened off the drug with no assistance so I'm doing it myself
I’m not addicted to Xanax but if you have some I’m buying them all
Dick Gozinya lmao that sounds like me same with painz
Research tolerance withdrawal..I may have pottenialy saved your life. Type in Benzo withdrawl hell on UA-cam
Juney Lo look into it bro
Been on and got off of both opiates and benzodiazepines and I did it at the same time, but honestly. I wouldn’t wish that on my absolute worst enemy. It’s like mental and physical torture. The skin crawling anxiety you feel is so bad that I can’t even put it into words. I’m mot being mellow dramatic either. Pain, restless legs, spasms, no sleep for days and days, sweating, chills, nausea/vomiting, suicidal thoughts, AND THOSE ARENT EVEN THE LONG TERM EFFECTS. I literally couldn’t feel happy for months. True happiness is something I cherish to this day. I even look at comedy differently. I appreciate everything so much more now a days. Please don’t do drugs kids.
Couldn't be explained better. KIDS..I GET IT..I GET IT..BUT THIS PERSON IM REPLYING TO IS SPEAKING GOSPEL TRUTH..THE BEGINING OF THE RIDE-ROLLERCOASTER BUT when that ROLLERCOASTER don't stop and eventually crashes...mmm..stay Away kids..STAY AWAY.
@@phillipsturgill when I was in school it was very very popular. I believe it has become less popular or at least harder to get ahold of thank god. 🙏
So true. Been clean from xans and heroin for 2 years and I always remember yearning for the possibility to just feel ‘bored’ again when I was dopesick. Being grateful for everything in life, the ups and downs, even the mundane, has kept me on the right path. Like you said I wouldnt wish opiate/benzo withdrawl on my enemy
I can not even imagine doing that in the way you’re describing- it sounds like you just quit suddenly. It’s the worst torture and it’s amazing how strong you are! ❤❤❤ you. Are. A. Superhero!
@@Teenywing thank you 🙏 im just happy to be alive I’m lucky💙
I take Sertraline for my anxiety and have taken it for years now. I can honestly say that my ability to control my anxiety is FAR better than what it used to be. I used to have panic attacks on a daily basis and now the worst I get is a little nervous before giving a presentation or going on a roller coaster.
So if you are taking antidepressants realize that YES they do work, but not for everybody. Don’t use antidepressants unless absolutely necessary. And if you are current taking them don’t just go cold turkey on them. They take two weeks to work usually and if after a month you are still experiencing extreme levels of anxiety or depression, then consider changing your medication or looking for an alternative method. If you are prescribed Xanax only use it when you feel it’s absolutely necessary.
Jacob very well written. I couldn’t agree more
he didn't say SSRI's don't work, just that they have no advantages over a placebo in the long term. the only reason i hesitated to get off cymbalta myself was fear of the lengthy withdrawal, but i'm glad i stuck it out.
How's the sex life? Non existent, I presume. SSRI's and SNRI's are the worst. I'd rather be depressed than depressed and limp..
Hey I’ve just started taxing lexapro for my anxiety. It’s been two weeks and haven’t notice much of a difference. What works for you?
Please don't tell people to take drugs in the UA-cam comment section when you're talking from only one personal experience.
One of the worst drugs ever offered to the public. I have heard so many horror stories.
I refused to take meds for my generalized anxiety disorder. I started taking Indica edibles and they work great. I take them twice a week and they keep my anxiety in check for the whole week.
Link up this dude I ordered from his shit is dhope as fuck. He got shrooms, chocolate bars, LSD,MDMA,DMT and other dope psycy products well treated. It has really helped me treat my depression, anxiety and even help in exploration of my human psyche and delivers to any location.
Link up this dude I ordered from his shit is dhope as fuck. He got shrooms, chocolate bars, LSD,MDMA,DMT and other dope psycy products well treated. It has really helped me treat my depression, anxiety and even help in exploration of my human psyche and delivers to any location.
I love marijuana. I like to smoke good bud- I don't like the concentrates- it reminds me too much of crack. It makes a dreary usual day interesting.I could see religions with marijuana as the Sacramental host like the Rastafarians. I'll be the rasta- man!
lol thats not even possible bud
"I refuse to take meds, instead I take meds"
Worked like a charm for me. Helped me when I needed it and I moved on with life, no addiction, no negative side effects.
I love that he said, “we’re not supposed to be happy” hahaha so true you have to make happiness for yourself and create a good life. Also you have to be physically active. Run, lift weights, yoga, hit a punching bag have a lot more sex anything to get a work out. Another big one is fulfill goals you set for yourself even small ones. You’ll start to realize how you never see things all the way through. One more huge thing to keep you happy Is be humble (you’re no better or worse than anyone else) and help your fellow human beings for their sake not for anythingin return besides the good feeling of helping someone. I went from heroin addiction being on the streets for a little while to having a pretty awesome life and I accomplished that in a year after getting of dope. What’s your excuse now, besides you don’t want to put in the work. I know everyone listening to this has some kind of warrior spirit in them. Harness it and rise out of the hole you’re living in. Good luck fuckers.
Did you go to AA or NA program?
Hey I agree with you
But what happens when you do everything right…everything you’ve said and you are still sad…despite success, gratitude….,exercise, and hard work..
I’ve had all of that…and now I’m grappling with some physical health issues..that’s grief..and you can’t just yoga that away
Clinical depression is real
People completely underestimate simple things like: good sleep, diet and exercise.
Shit crazy bro
I’m not “sober” but I’m 3 years off daily Xanax use…. And by far was the worst of all my drug addictions because the negative side effects are so subtle like I couldn’t learn because I couldn’t remember and the feelings I had about things in general were completely false.
I have been on Xanax since 2015. 1.5 mg a day. My mom had dementia and I was her caregiver and I took it to help with the stress and sleep.
My mom passed in 2019 and I want to get off it. I drink also recreationally. When you cut out the Xanax did you still drink?
@al cambrola
All things relative, I can’t imagine 1.5 mgs a day doing too much, if any, long term damage. I was taking anywhere from 30 to 80 mgs a day and don’t remember whole portions of my life lol. Also, drinking on Xanax is just about the worse thing I can imagine. I have never done that and remembered anything the next day.
@al cambrola
Also, sorry about your mom.
@@soyburglar77 Thanks. I was her caregiver for 10 years and in 2015 got on Xanax for the stress by prescription. I don't abuse it and take it at bedtime. I do have a few beers on the weekend. I was just wondering if I can taper and continue having the beer? My plan is to shave off a measured amount a little at a time.
Others have said that your gaba receptors won't have a chance to heal if drinking.
@@soyburglar77 Wow! 30 to 80 mgs a day?
How did you taper if you don't mind my asking? In late afternoon, a get mild interdose withdrawal symptoms. A little shakiness and mild anxiety. I would like to eliminate the beer eventually. I'm going to be 68 in May.
After a near mental breakdown I started to seek professional councelling, and fairly quickly I was prescribed small doses of xanax and zoloft by the psychiatrist under who's care I was. This was exactly one year ago and under the skilled care of my psychiatrist I was able to navigate out of the darkness of my my crippling depression. I haven't used either of the drugs in over 8 months now. Had it not been for the added push and momentum I got from the medication it would have been far more difficult to come out the other side. The Xanax let my nervous system finally rest and I could at last sleep and get quality rest. I remember sleeping for 12 hours a day for about 2 weeks because I was emotionally exhausted and my nerves were shot to hell. Xanax allowed me to get rest I needed and begin my spiritual, mental and physical recovery. The Zoloft helped stabilise my mood. My psychiatrist used these drugs as training wheels while he counseled me as tools to help get me where I needed to be. I'm more alive than ever living my life to the fullest and I have nothing but gratitude towards my councillor and the medication.
You used it correctly and didn't abuse or become dependent,i envy you and i bet alot of others do,but im happy you got benefits instead of a world of addiction and hell
1% of the people prescribed it actually need it. You are of that few 1% that had an actual medically significant result. Anti-depressants are probably the most over prescribed medication on the market. They just come with a stigma - depression - so we don't talk about it. We know all about the problem with pain killers and opiate based medications, because the stigma isn't there as much. We don't talk about mental health enough because of that stigma. I'm glad you started your road to recovery, and I wish you the best in your future.
The same for me I was hospitalized for severe clinical depression. Was put on antidepressants and anti anxiety med. If used correctly under the care of a good psychiatrist they help you while you try to navigate out of what got you into this mess they are training wheels on the road to recovery. I went through hell in my 20s. I eventually got off these meds as well as quit smoking 40 years ago. I am now in my late 60s and leading a very happy peaceful life. I wouldn’t have made it without these meds. If you used correctly for true clinical severe depression they can and do save lives. People have to understand the difference between being unhappy and a depression that alters your brain chemicals two vastly different things. Antidepressant withdrawal MUST be done very very gradually otherwise you could have a very bad reaction depending on the half-life of the drug you are using. The brain has to readjust to working on it’s own. NEVER stop these meds suddenly !!! Withdrawal should be done under medical supervision.
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Do you sleep well when youre shit drunk? Because is the same exact systems at play between xanax and alcohol. You sleep like shit on benzos, I can say from experience. You can get some "rest" and a really great nap, but youre not getting REM sleep or the sleep you need to be restored and proper the next day
I've been in withdrawal from both, I'd say opioids are worse (although, I didn't have a colossal tolerance with benzo's like I did for opioids). The worst part of benzo withdrawal is that it lasts for a long time, simmering. For like months, random unease will seize you for no reason and linger. Then you think you're past it, and it comes up again in a few days, and this oscillation drags on forever. At least with opioids, once you clear the major humps (acute withdrawal in the first 3-5 days, then the general misery of the first three-four weeks), you're done with the worst of it, and everyday gets better than the day before.
did this unease and oscillations eventually go away? i am currently tapering off of xanax abuse with ativan. hoping to be completely off of it soon but want to know how long i can expect to feel protracted withdrawal.
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 its really hard for me to say, because I was withdrawing from both substances at once, and my opioid use was far worse than my benzo use. Plus, everyone is different, every feels withdrawal differently. My brother made it look effortless to kick heroin IMO, and kept working while dope sick, while I was depressed and listless for a year.
Re:benzos, the thing that was striking to me was how I would feel like I was finally done with with the withdrawals, and then I'd get hit with anxiety again. The latent anxiety would roll up like a wave and stick around for days, it was like a high tide that went up to your neck. It made it really hard to be productive and work. I ended up basically not working during that period of my life, I was living with family.
They gave me a rapid taper with Ativan basically just for seizures, then I was off in 2 weeks (I think). I was in an inpatient program. I was using, on average, 3/4 bar of Xanax a day, I can't remember the mg. I hadn't been using benzos long, maybe a year, moving from sporadic use binging here and there to using 6 out 7 days. So depending on your taper it might be different.
Work with your doctor, and remember that progress is not always a straight line. You're going to ha e to be flexible and adapt to what your body is going through.
For me, I think the benzo wd lasted like 9 months, on and off. I remember having 18+ months clean, waking up one morning, and noticing I hadn't had PAWS for a while. In fact, I even felt kind of good. I realized that I didn't feel "normal" my first 18 months clean, even though I _thought_ I felt normal
I can tell you that in my case, it got better, with help from 12 step groups and ongoing therapy. Clean and sober 10 years. I help other addicts through 12 step groups and I worked as a drug counselor. I ended up going back to school and getting a degree in comp sci, got married, etc.
I used to hear people in meetings saying, "I'm glad I went through my addiction, because it brought to me where I am today, and I'm really happy today." I would hear that, and think about how I never felt that way. I felt like my addiction ruined my life, and I was never going to get out of this hole. I didn't like big parts of myself. I even hated myself for some things.
With therapy, and time, I finally found myself saying the same cliche I had heard all those years, when I had around 8-9 years clean. I'm genuinely glad this all happened, because of how happy I am today. I never thought it would come.
So don't give up, no matter what happens. It's not going to be easy,, but I can promise you that it will be worth it. I never wake up and think "I wish I had used Xanax a bit longer" or "if only I was still using heroin." Recovery is possible. You don't want to leave 5 min before the miracle happens.
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 been addicted to xans and heroin in my life. The unease of benzo withdrawl gradually gets better after months of being sober but I found that it takes your ability to remember things substantially longer to return to ‘normal’. That brain fog feeling does seem to linger but itl get better over time. Stay strong and don’t thing of the big picture just take it day by day. As long as today was better than yesterday you’re on the right path!
@@SneedEmFeedEm292 I tapered off Xanax with klonopin. Was taking up to 5 2 mg bars a day. Tried cold turkey at first and had multiple seizures. So I tapered with the Xanax at first but only got get down to 2 mg a day and nothing less. Then switched to klonopin from there. Went from 1.5 mg a day to .5 in a month …from .5 I jumped straight of the k pins . Had almost no withdrawal after that. Had rebound aniexty for about a month and trouble getting good rest but that’s about it
@@Oogie187 but do you get back to normal eventually? like completely?
When i go for 20-30km runs Its incredible how well i feel afterwords. Mental chatter disappear, i feel no anxiety , no guilt eating unhealthy foods or no rush to do anything. It isn’t fun to run long distances, but have’nt found anything that comes close to these effects besides for long runs. I hav’nt taken any antidepressants in my life. Which im grateful for.
Thumbs up if you’re hooked on nasal decongestant!
Good ol Afrin lol
Fentanyl nasal spray
I would thumbs up but I'm superstitious of the number 13... But I been using it for 15 year and I'm hooked.. Lol
yuup
I’m a recovering addict lol. FLONASE people, use it everyday! No rebound effect!!!!
Xanax withdrawal made me go insane for about 3 days, then I was fine
How so? I didn't know Xanax was that fucking bad wth.
Been there bro. Anxiety hyperawareness to the 100th degree. Very dissociative/out of body like coming off of those devils.
Yea man I had some of the most terrifying psychosis from xan withdrawal. Terrifying is an understatement actually
Just never stop
Whats fucked up is youre not fine. Youve been in a coma. This is all your imagination.
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Thank you
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Benzos are the devil, especially when prescribed by a doctor. I had a psychiatrist put me on 3mg of Klonopin a day when I was 15, getting off of it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. I dabbled with *everything* else and never had a habit with that, but prescribed benzos were what finally gave me a dependency. The same thing applies to antidepressants, those things are every bit as dependence-forming. We all like to assume that something is fine because a doctor prescribed it, but they screw up VERY often.
I guess you could say I was lucky for having a short lasting addiction. Two months addicted to Xanax. A bad acid trip made me completely stop as it traumatized me heavily. I’m only 16 and I’ve been clean for over a month now. I wish I knew how HORRIBLE withdrawal was going to be. I also stopped cold turkey, which I didn’t know was a bad idea. If I had been using for a longer time, then I could have had a seizure. I did feel like I lost my mind. Hallucinated, intense panic attacks, tremors, paranoia and insomnia. It took about three weeks for me to feel normal again. I’m writing this here because these comments make me feel understood. I’m still fighting, very determined not to relapse. I do hope nobody I know in real life sees this comment lol. I am glad it didn’t last more than two months. Xanax is not your friend. It’s dangerous. It never gets better. It only gets worse.
It only gets worse - 100%!! You couldn’t be more right!!! I was addicted to Xanax (and Ativan if I couldn’t get Xanax). The addiction hijacked my life for almost four years!!! As you can imagine, I was brutally addicted … in every way. My physical dependence was severe. As Stevie Nicks said so articulately, “detoxing off of benzos is like opening the door to hell”.
I had auditory hallucinations for 5 months. I’d sit in the bath with my head by the faucet countless times a day just to drown out the sounds in my head.
Terrifying!!
Man my best friend had a bad trip 2 years back and has never been the same since, it’s so much more serious than people realize.. I’m 21 and you remind me so much of my younger self. Our stories are VERY similar. Its such a dark place and even worse when you’re alone & I really wish I had somebody (non judgmental) to talk to back then or some guidance but I didn’t. I’m sober in college now scars are there but the hard part is over.. I honestly never leave comments like this but please reach out to me if you ever need anybody!! Osrs I will give you my socials fr. i love you and im here for you girl🤍
@@sarahko1014 :(( thank u so much. this means a lot. :((
how many mg or bars a day were u taking?
I really enjoyed this full interview, great guy!
It's hard when you have so many people who may suffer from social anxiety / have minor and or natural depressive tendencies that get lumped in with people who have severe mental disorders. The discourse around depression and the solutions for such things get very decisive. Some people may get offended when you say "work out to cure depression" when they really mean "exercise can curb depressive tendencies in individuals with minor 'normal' afflictions". It's almost like a rule of self assurance, if you feel as if you may have depressive tendencies maybe try these more simple solutions before deciding to alter your brain chemistry. Of course you're the arbiter of how you treat yourself but you never want to jump head first into something that may not even be necessary.
Joe said that stop repeating and listen stupid fuck
I've been injured a few times...had a lot of trauma from my youth and the good ole Dr's just prescribed Xanax, Valium, shoulder injury that led to painkiller prescriptions... screwed up my life for a bit. Proudly sober from pills for 6 Years now
Happy for you 🙏
I was on xans for months. When I quit the withdrawals were terrible I felt like I was outside of my body looking over myself dying. And 7 seizures I thought I was gonna die. plz don’t take them
How do you know you had 7 seizures? Ive been on klo opin for over a year and tried to quit. I would get delusional paranoid go into psychosis. This past Tuesday I was over at my mom's because I was scared to be home alone I was so sick. My aunt,my mom's sister, stopped by to bring my mom and new phone cover and while she was over there they said I had two seizures but I do not remember any of it and I thought they were lying to me until I could feel the hard knot on the back of my head caused from me falling out in the kitchen floor and hitting my head really hard and having two seizures. It's very scary. I'm going back to my doctor Thursday and demanding that he put me back on it and safely wean me off of them. A seizure can literally kill you
He’s absolutely right about how horrific Benzo addiction is - I’ve been through it and go through it now bc of panic disorder and just weaning off a little bit is complete hell
That said, breathing techniques are total junk science for real panic disorders and have been shown to be ineffective in several studies
Most people don’t know what real anxiety and panic is and have no frame of reference. Unless you’ve gone to the ER thinking you’re dying , you don’t know what a panic attack is. And unless you’ve had a panic attack so bad that you ran away into the bathroom freaking out in a grocery store due to how intense the attack is, you can’t grasp panic disorder
I know I couldn’t until it happened to be. Breathing techniques are useless there. The only real things that help are a) benzos for immediate relief b) exposure therapy which is hard and few doctors know how to execute it (dr Claire weeks wrote a book about it in the 60s and she experienced it so any sufferer who reads her book knows it’s legit by the way she describes it)
Real anxiety is not just feeling nervous and uncomfortable in social situations because you’re awkward and lack confidence. It’s not that normal nervousness of knowing you have to present to a huge crowd at work.
It’s a fight or flight adrenaline dump that can’t be comprehended until you experience it
That’s so true
About what it actually is
Exactly. Well said.
It’s being indistinguishable from a heart attack.
Then if you have health and heart issues it can cause an actual heart attack.
So u run around the room thinking I’m about to die, this is it, I’m about to die.
Omg omg omg my heart is thumping so much. Elephant on my chest. Excessive sweating.
Intense dysphoria.
Omg I’m about to die right here right now.
Hand goes numb.
Face goes grey.
It feels like a stroke.
These were my last symptoms during a panic attack.
I went to ER. Blood pressure 160/105 . Pulse 175.
It was horrible.
@@tysonsimmons2295 I can tell from your description you’ve had a really bad one before
I don’t think most people have had one anywhere near close to that - and they just don’t know any better (lucky them)
The ones you’re describing - my first one ever was like that, and then since then it was only whenever I’d smoke weed that they could completely take me over like that - for up to four hours at a time.
Just one panic attack rolling into another. Tracked it on my Fitbit too.
Completely terrifying experience. Absolutely horrifying and frankly I think death is better because at least death just takes you - rather than steeping your in fear for hours like some kind of unholy tea bag.
I clocked 210/105 or something like that one night in the midst of a bad one after a little tiny piece of a thc gummy and a couple glasses of wine. Chewed and aspirin immediately.
Anyhow I don’t bother trying weed anymore. Used to be fine, then it wasn’t. Then I tried microdosing because I thought confronting the fear could be therapeutic - and that worked for a time. Until I had just a teeny bit too much and it didn’t.
@@Merknilash holy smokes man! Your blood pressure was 210/105!!?
That’s insane. You must’ve felt terrified and awful.
May I ask what they did for you at the hospital. If you feel up to it, I wouldn’t mind reading the entire process, from when you walked in to the moment you walked out of there.
The weed induced attacks happen often to people who used to smoke a lot say as a youth, but quit for a time and went through some serious medical issues, or other traumas which then comes in to cause these heavy episodes from marijuana.
I go through minor attacks when I smoke sometimes (twice a month about for smoking), but they are no where near that bad and are all in my head.
I found that the only times I am able to smoke marijuana and enjoy it is when I have benzos and booze on board. And I either go straight to bed or have something to occupy my mind like music or film.
Have you ever heard about microdosing?
@@tysonsimmons2295 I didn’t go to the hospital - I went once years and years ago (2008) when I woke up with a bad panic attack and didn’t know what was happening to me
Doc tried to tell me it was SVTs or some crap - which it wasn’t - and that I was fine
On the occasion where my home reader said 210/105 - that was with my heart rate pounding at 150-160
I chewed an aspirin and took 4x my usual dose of Xanax and it calmed down
But yep that’s my history - used to smoke Schwag from 15 to early 20s and I can barely even smell the stuff without it sending me on an insanely strong panic attack
I tried micro dosing but it just didn’t matter so I gave up - sadly
But I suspect a lot of my issues are due to a 10 year + low dose Xanax dependency. Even at only .25mg or less per day (usually .125) it’s enough to make the brain so sensitive to stimulants that anything can set you off
Been strung out on benzos many times over the years, Xanax/ benzo addiction is one of the worst chemical dependencies you can acquire. I love the feeling of freedom and blankness of emotions for a while, but it makes me do reckless shit.
Yeah you’re taking way too much of it or you’re mixing it with alcohol.
Normal pharmaceutical doses do not make you do reckless shit.
Did for me too. Took a bar, had a couple of drinks, I was at a restaurants with some friends and one of them was heckling me a bit, so I stood up and just knocked him out cold. Didnt feel anything. He was fine just had a concussion but I never touched the stuff again.
@@andersonandrew112 Damn, hell yeah, theyre so dangerous. I'm currently on probation for my 3rd DUI, all from Xanax, almost never drank.
@@andersonandrew112 yeah man when I go out it’s one or the other. Xanax lowers my inhibitions and, at least to me, feels like a cleaner version of being drunk. Lets me strike up conversations pretty easily, but I don’t mix that shit. I’ve been out with friends that didn’t start fights or anything, but I had to basically babysit.
Oh hell yeah it makes you do reckless s*** things that you would never do like going in stores and steal they call it the Rambo effect