This video originally had an opening which I had to get rid of due to TV Tokyo being cucks. You can watch it here; twitter.com/FitherAndFlair/status/1121458782683398144
So i have watch 3-4 of your shlock video to have a vague sense what "shlock" means.. But what is a "shlock" in the first place? How do you guys come up with the term?
@@issacthompson330 Who watches a "What will happen when Royal releases" theory video when the game is already out. These are usually watched before the game comes out, or right after just to see how wild people's theories were
P5RA announced 2021, this time the animation is even worse, and we have decided to make Haru appear off screen for every scene she was originally in. We felt like she had too much screen time.
Every battle is now an all out attack with shittier finisher portraits, and 90% of each episode will just be Akechi. We feel like he didn’t have enough screen time in the last one
@@IcebergOfLife Conceptual ideas can't hide themselves forever. If you speculate into a reasonable direction you are Bound to be somewhat right. Props to Royal for executing the Final Arc well, nonetheless. A good writer never focuses on the idea but rather the excution.
I feel like it doesn't make sense. If he's the replacement for Igor's plot twist, then what's the point of Morgana? He was created by Igor as a last resort in hopes of rescuing him and Lavenza from Yaldaboth.
I feel like it would be weird for them to add an entirely new character, make up an entire new arcana to justify it, and *not* have that character be story relevant. Doesn't mean he's evil but I'd be shocked if he's just another confidant.
@Jack Vitale I hope they pull off an Adachi with Akechi (Not in the sense of an evil ending, keep that with Yaldabaoth), but the ability to hang out with him outside of the story - which is kinda hinted at with Kasumi
"For solving your problems, I've heard that you have to kill them with kindness...." Mr. McAppleJuice hands Kasumi a box, and inside is the rifle. "...You know, I've heard that 308 Winchester packs a lot of love."
Late game akechi whines so much to put him in your party that you need to and you have no direct control over him. He becomes a huge weight to the team and Kasumi just shoots him in the knee and they leave him in mementos
Further proof. His surname ends with the letter i Guess who also has a surname ending with the letter i? Akechi Adachi Ikutsuki Coincidence? I think not
No, ok. This is how it’s gonna happen. The new girl’s rifle has an attachable scope. The thieves (plus a wounded Goro from the GoroxGoro fight) are making a getaway in the Morganamobile while wondering where Kasumi went. Then out of nowhere Goro gets JFKed by Kasumi, who was perched up somewhere in the distance with her sniper rifle.
@Lhhhhehhshhbbbd in the least it would make it darker like P3 in some way. It would be good to have a choice like this to add tension and drama, since youll be chosing it yourself
Mirza9000 .-. Well, I’d be fine with Haru, too. But I feel if they give her more screen time I might actually care about her more. I’d be fine with getting rid of most of the Phantom Thieves tbh. The only ones I actually like are Joker and Ann. The rest aren’t really that interesting or fun. It’s honestly kinda sad that Goro, despite how poorly written he was after Nijima’s palace, is still one of my favorite Party characters.
I got the jp version of p5r and all I have to say is I'm dumbfounded by the hard reads made in this video. Like jesus you got like 70% right good job boys
they guessed ALOT of royal suprisingly, and im glad i wasnt the only one who saw that maruki looked like aizen (still kinda mythed i predicted the twist from a refference)
I had a feeling that despite how hard Kasumi was pushed marketing-wise, he was gonna end up being more important somehow, so I pretty much completely ignored everything related to him until Royal, and I am VERY glad I did.
I half suspect that the counselor is somehow connected to Shido. Might even have something to do with the shady mental institution which is keeping Ohya' friend mothballed. Whatever is revealed with the counselor, I imagine he's gonna end up being a far more interesting character than the girl.
In the trailer you can see part of Akechi's leg behind Haru in the van in his black mask outfit, that means he survives and joins the phantom thieves. he probably confeses his crimes and goes to jail instead of Joker
You want to know the scary part of this video? They only got one thing wrong: Maruki wasn't chaos, just another form of law. Beyond that, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CORRECT.
Other things to note... Kasumi brings up how people should solve their own problems, so I doubt she’d be for counselor’s give everyone’s wishes plan as that would go against her ideology. Also the few shots we got of the gang in that new dungeon. We see a cityscape covered in blue with a strange spiral staircase that’s disjointed and glasslike. I bring this up because it seems like a twist on the final dungeon of P5. Where that was all red and had the boney structure because it was run by Yalda while this one is blue and made out of glass because Counselor. Just my two cents... Also have you checked out the subbed version of the trailer because it super sells the theory.
Counselors aren't meant to solve your problem, they're meant to assist the person in realising what they need and how to do it, whether that's by talking about their feelings or giving them advice. It's all on the person if they take any of it to heart and make changes in their life.
a blue glasslike staircase exists in the casino outside the map high up in the sky so that may be it as there is new content in the casino according to the trailer. Here in this video towards the end you can se the staircase:ua-cam.com/video/_u9KhO68rgM/v-deo.html
The890Gamer Kasumi says that yet look at her in the trailer... She's a member of the phantom thieves... Didn't she say to goro that she believed that what the phantom thieves are doing being noble but also futile? She states that nobody can change their situation other than the person themself, but that statement totally contradicts her becoming a phantom thief...
If it's done well, Akechi getting a redemption arc I could put up with. Especially if it leads to him joining something like a Suicide Squad of evil Persona users.
Based solely on the way he seems to be acting, and the way that he is is interacting with the students, the counsellor reminds me of Ikutsuki from Persona 3. He seems almost too friendly. Although we haven't seen much of him yet, that's the sort of impression I'm getting from him, although he is probably more powerful than Ikutsuki ever was, that is, if he is actually some sort of villain, which I think he will be. I doubt Atlus would just throw in a new character for no reason at all.
Katherine Stacey I think atlus adding a random new character in the trailer out of nowhere can be hinting at how important he may be later on. b.c if you think about it, why him? Didn't atlus say there were going to be new confidants to interact with? Why they specifically choose this counselor dude of all ppl and not anyone else sounds very suspicious...
He comes in with an army of Master and Crazy hands. After the battle he gives Joker the letter to enter Smash Bros. because someone thought is was a good idea to make the persona dancing games and the 3ds games canon so why not the same for Smash.
After finally playing Royal I had to rewatch this in awe of how accurate it was 10:26 "Rebel", it's his form of rebellion, the accuracy here is hilarious
But, taken the kanji differently, it can mean "flower, blossom" and "pure, clear", so, probably, the name was chosen for another reason and it could be related to our Final Boss.
Also I'm pretty sure the human morgana and the wakaba revival is a result of the PTs being erased by yaldabaoth, and giving up on society until Joker comes to remind them of the reasons they all became PT's.
perhaps all of the deaths in the Metaverse get undone with it being erased, and they modify Morgana transforming into a proper cat into becoming a human, as it MIGHT be likely that Morgana was intended to be made a human but Igor was unable to complete the transformation before being imprisoned and he ended up as the cat. I mean, he talks - he walks on 2 legs, etc.
SSJGamer well... p5r does take place AFTER the event with yaldaboath, and the true ending... If this is true then that would mean that the events will start at the beginning of the third semester, it has to be b.c the game features a third semester at shujin. The metaverse is not gone based on the trailers, so it can be assumed that the phantom thieves did not win against yaldaboath since he is still in control of mementos and cognition and crap... So that would mean that yaldaboath reset reality where everyone gets their desires/dreams.
Lol was so right about Maruki taking the grail power and learning about meta verse thru the phantom thieves seriously I’m glad I forgot about this video the first time I saw it while play persona 5 royal
if everyones dreams come true, like how far is the range. cause lets say p5 MC is at his lowest point to decide whether to re-kill futubas mum or keep futuba happy and everyone elses dream. and then a certain blue haired door kun turns up to give advice (OR if atlus remembers maki exists and uses her since dream world v reality is p1 all over) cause we know that elizabeth wishes to bring him back, that can be classed as a "dream" be absolute fanservice but one that be effective
@@dragonthunderx3250 yeah his life is pretty great. The others either died, forgot each other, or moved away from friends that they can only see every now and then.
i can just see it in front of my eyes that counselor guy will beat the entire crew and then when all hope seems lost goro akechi ascends from the heavens and he and Joker will team up to beat him up.
I was expecting to see some really far out there theories when I clicked this video, but now I can easly see that this whole "Chaos versus Order versus Justice" could be what the new part of the story is about. It's a mexican stand off of abstract concepts!
The moment you start talking about illuminaty and aizen just cracks me up. "he is drinking apple juice. whats apples a symbol of? this fucker is a Lucifer!"
The Consoler goes up to Goro shoots Goro in the Smomach and tell him as he takes off his glasses with his other hand, when you under the impression you caused the mental shut downs?
Spoilers ⬇️ HOW?? HOW DID HE GET IT RIGHT HE EVEN GOT THE COGNITION AND HAPPINESS PART RIGHT EDIT:I CAME BACK AND "REMOVES HIS GLASSES WITH SLICK BACK HAIR" IM ACTUALLY AFRAID OF THESE GUYS NOW HOLY SHIT
Okay, crazy theory time. I don’t know if it’s just me being a contrarian or something, but I am dead convinced that the counselor is a good guy. But not only is he a good guy, Takuto is Philemon. Think about it, where is Philemon during all of Persona 5 when his velvet room is being taken over? And as a counselor, this guy is in the perfect position to guide the Phantom Thieves to get stringer and defeat Jabadabado. Sure Atlus didn’t’t bother bringing him up before in P5 Vanilla, but now with the Royal, they can tell a different story. Mind you, This is probably not what Atlus would do, considering they even took SMT out of the title...
The fact that he appears in the same game Kasumi is introduced is admittedly quite suspicious. He could be the Palace ruler for the dungeon Kasumi is introduced in, and that's the most likely theory for his role as a villain.
This video is the one that's gonna make me subscribe. I'm fully convinced that all of this theory (the serious parts anyway) is going to be true. Or at least it would be true if P5 had good writers, but I guess we'll see in a few months. Loved the video, loved the discussion, loved the dynamic between all the participants.
Wow you guys were sooo close, but yoshizawa does not work with maruki, she has her own thoughts. she dislikes the idea of having something/ someone (like the phantom thieves) as a safety net for the society, because it hinders groth.
I know this is a crazy theory but what if it turns out that Yaldabaoth is the counselor's persona and the whole time someone was controlling Yaldabaoth? a.k.a The counselor
This video originally had an opening which I had to get rid of due to TV Tokyo being cucks. You can watch it here;
twitter.com/FitherAndFlair/status/1121458782683398144
So i have watch 3-4 of your shlock video to have a vague sense what "shlock" means.. But what is a "shlock" in the first place? How do you guys come up with the term?
The way you guys described Maruki in this thing is like how the Corrupted Grail acts in Carnival Phantasm, your underling sucks? Fucking Kill Him
Dude you may need to get a spoiler tag on this due to how close some of the theories are.
@@issacthompson330 Who watches a "What will happen when Royal releases" theory video when the game is already out.
These are usually watched before the game comes out, or right after just to see how wild people's theories were
The twist is actually that he's a gas station attendant part time
CCtheNarwhal Brooks And turn out to be Izanagi.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec No, just another unrelated reality-warping deity masquerading as a gas-station attendant.
I literally stared choking on my Chicken sandwich the moment I read this
Manifestation of those who want death, control, a lie, bonds. What's next? Manifestation of those who want to live eternally?
@@baronsionis6855 Manifestation of those who want SMT5
It's actually hilarious how this video was made for satire and ended up being 90% true xD
they only guess maruki "arc" lol
Yeah kasumi being the chaos is kinda wrong because goro turns out to be the most chaosy chaos character to ever chaos a chaos
@@justeliwood2289 they did get the whole ‘is kasumi real?’ Thing
The “and he removes his glasses and slicks back his hair” part my favorite since that’s literally what he looks like in the palace
Save for the fact he's actually the good guy and the Phantom Thieves are the villains, bringing death and saddness to everyone. :o
Small Brain thinking: Atlus is making P5R to sell us the game again.
Big Brain Thinking: Atlus is making P5R to make another P5 anime.
P5RA announced 2021, this time the animation is even worse, and we have decided to make Haru appear off screen for every scene she was originally in. We felt like she had too much screen time.
Every battle is now an all out attack with shittier finisher portraits, and 90% of each episode will just be Akechi. We feel like he didn’t have enough screen time in the last one
Persona5 The Animation 2
Persona 5 the crimson animation 2021
@Joshua Serrano how can it be episodic and tell a story?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Am I the only one who's mad about Futaba getting a human form
Futaba should never have a human form
Damn that stinky human
She should had stayed a gremlin.
darkstorm1212 I thought she was a squid
A Channel a squid-kid
Yusuke's mom comes back and she paints Godzilla fighting the Sayuri
is the Sayuri godzilla size?
love that Chanel
Fither: "This man has an education, and drinks apple juice, thus, he is LUCIFER!"
SMT in a nutshell
The counsellor will be to Kasumi all like “Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?”
...what’s the joke here?
Jinhunter Slay It’s treason then
@@jinhunterslay1638 did you not watch Star Wars 1-3?
@@Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97 no. not at all
"Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Yaldabaoth?"
“Giving Futaba a human form”
she was pretty subhuman in p5
@@weather1635 shut
Well, she is a squid.
@@WaffleBandito yeah it's obvious.
Shes an inkling not human
Futaba with a human body is apparently a crime
according to Meti
Darkblade X I guess Morgan was a Human all along.
Futaba Is suppose to be a squid kid they fucked up her character
I hate how right they are for the wrong reasons
Its so interesting watching how spot on they are. Like was it THAT obvious??
@@IcebergOfLife Conceptual ideas can't hide themselves forever. If you speculate into a reasonable direction you are Bound to be somewhat right.
Props to Royal for executing the Final Arc well, nonetheless.
A good writer never focuses on the idea but rather the excution.
I almost wanna say he's TOO obvious to be evil, but I said the same thing for Crow. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I feel like it doesn't make sense. If he's the replacement for Igor's plot twist, then what's the point of Morgana? He was created by Igor as a last resort in hopes of rescuing him and Lavenza from Yaldaboth.
I feel like it would be weird for them to add an entirely new character, make up an entire new arcana to justify it, and *not* have that character be story relevant.
Doesn't mean he's evil but I'd be shocked if he's just another confidant.
@Jack Vitale I hope they pull off an Adachi with Akechi (Not in the sense of an evil ending, keep that with Yaldabaoth), but the ability to hang out with him outside of the story - which is kinda hinted at with Kasumi
I really don’t think they’ll go with the betrayal route two times in a row so kasumis name can be marked off the list.
You were fooled twice
"For solving your problems, I've heard that you have to kill them with kindness...."
Mr. McAppleJuice hands Kasumi a box, and inside is the rifle.
"...You know, I've heard that 308 Winchester packs a lot of love."
*slams down the door*
YOU!
Lucifer's gettin sloppy with his disguises. Smh
the image of goro kicking joker's seat saying "joker i want mcdonalds NOW!" is burned into my mind
Late game akechi whines so much to put him in your party that you need to and you have no direct control over him. He becomes a huge weight to the team and Kasumi just shoots him in the knee and they leave him in mementos
yep thats what happens
@@gamebox3193 Akechi was a better debilitate puppet than Kasumi was ever an actual party member
It's honestly shocking how much they actually got right. Maruki becomes god and grants wishes, Kasumi died (technically), and Goro became Yukari 2.0.
Joosh Maruki even has Azatoth Nyarlhotep’s dad
What do you mean by Yukari 2.0? I thought akechi was more than likable in the third semester
@@jackschwanewede5321 He meant as a tsundere
The icing on the cake of Kasumi killing Goro would be if when she kills him your confidant with him maxes out
That would be stupid considering they already said they’d rework akechis character.
I hate that they're practically right
They are about 55.553% right.
The counselor gives off some Ikutsuki vibes.
If he starts telling bad puns he's a villain.
Further proof. His surname ends with the letter i
Guess who also has a surname ending with the letter i?
Akechi
Adachi
Ikutsuki
Coincidence? I think not
Ryuji?
@@Funny24686 narukami
Kanji?
Kasumi?
Yo flairs realization of why ryuji is standing up straight is the funniest shit ever. Good job on this new video
Samuel Ayala Where is he standing up straight though?
@@jose13neo the new portrait for him in the bottom left, when everyone is hanging out
Samuel Ayala Oh I see
No, ok. This is how it’s gonna happen. The new girl’s rifle has an attachable scope. The thieves (plus a wounded Goro from the GoroxGoro fight) are making a getaway in the Morganamobile while wondering where Kasumi went. Then out of nowhere Goro gets JFKed by Kasumi, who was perched up somewhere in the distance with her sniper rifle.
Would be cool if theres ways to protect Akechi, but it would cost. So people can make a "for what cause" moment just to save Akechi
Mirza9000 .-. I’ll be honest, Goro may not have been written very well, but I’d gladly sacrifice Ryuji to save him.
@@ninjabunny9526 id actually sacrifice Haru or Ann, because i didnt use them alot
@Lhhhhehhshhbbbd in the least it would make it darker like P3 in some way. It would be good to have a choice like this to add tension and drama, since youll be chosing it yourself
Mirza9000 .-. Well, I’d be fine with Haru, too. But I feel if they give her more screen time I might actually care about her more. I’d be fine with getting rid of most of the Phantom Thieves tbh. The only ones I actually like are Joker and Ann. The rest aren’t really that interesting or fun. It’s honestly kinda sad that Goro, despite how poorly written he was after Nijima’s palace, is still one of my favorite Party characters.
I got the jp version of p5r and all I have to say is I'm dumbfounded by the hard reads made in this video. Like jesus you got like 70% right good job boys
This video: This guy is lucifer
Me: YOU JUST MADE ME WANNA DATE THE GUY EVEN MORE
But what of his Shlingaling is too small but has an active hitbox similar to Ganondorf's side smash when he unzips it?
@@sketch-eee4165 is that a problem when you're Lucy?? Don't care would def fuck anyway
they guessed ALOT of royal suprisingly, and im glad i wasnt the only one who saw that maruki looked like aizen (still kinda mythed i predicted the twist from a refference)
I had a feeling that despite how hard Kasumi was pushed marketing-wise, he was gonna end up being more important somehow, so I pretty much completely ignored everything related to him until Royal, and I am VERY glad I did.
I half suspect that the counselor is somehow connected to Shido. Might even have something to do with the shady mental institution which is keeping Ohya' friend mothballed. Whatever is revealed with the counselor, I imagine he's gonna end up being a far more interesting character than the girl.
In the trailer you can see part of Akechi's leg behind Haru in the van in his black mask outfit, that means he survives and joins the phantom thieves. he probably confeses his crimes and goes to jail instead of Joker
God I do so hope he lives
This aged like fine wine
The well yes, but actually no meme fits this scenario perfectly
"These are the least accurate predictions i've ever heard" 40:10
and then the game came out...
That entire narrative about Goro being a hindrance and then walking in on the therapist needs to be animated.
jesus i started crying of laughter when you put the image of Akechi kicking the front seat because he wants nuggies and Pokemon toys in my head....
I can't believe after months later 80% of what's in this video turned out to actually happen lmao
Juan Marcus lmao I know right
The entire time I kept saying, "How the hell did Fither guess it?"
Hearing this after knowing about the story is entertaining
Well at least your claims are more credible than most of game theory's videos😂
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@Lhhhhehhshhbbbd Yes they are lol
the biggest oof
@Lhhhhehhshhbbbd Not much of a defense. But no they are that bad, being a fanboy has nothing to do with it
@Lhhhhehhshhbbbd Ever see his P4 video?
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“I’ve known about you since you were born”
It would make sense because there will probably be another dungeon after the final dungeon.
TFW you get the right answers by using the wrong equation
In P4G thry added the "Adachi ending" so the chaos/law routes sound plausible.
we have the Yaldabaoth ending
so they're prolly going to move "Igor" to Jester
So disappointed that you had to remove that godly shitpost at the beginning.
Edit: Nice move pinning it, Fithboy
Source of your profile picture please. I need it
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@@paperluigi6132 that's labrys hentai my brother
@HeroHunter, which one?! I need to know so I...uh...know how to properly avoid it...Yeah.
@@muffetmissulena6540 i forgot which one sorry but that face is certainly labrys
Worry not, friends.
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You want to know the scary part of this video? They only got one thing wrong: Maruki wasn't chaos, just another form of law. Beyond that, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CORRECT.
Even the apple juice thing (which I never noticed until now) 😭
Oh so you guys are just writers for atlus.
Other things to note...
Kasumi brings up how people should solve their own problems, so I doubt she’d be for counselor’s give everyone’s wishes plan as that would go against her ideology.
Also the few shots we got of the gang in that new dungeon. We see a cityscape covered in blue with a strange spiral staircase that’s disjointed and glasslike. I bring this up because it seems like a twist on the final dungeon of P5. Where that was all red and had the boney structure because it was run by Yalda while this one is blue and made out of glass because Counselor. Just my two cents...
Also have you checked out the subbed version of the trailer because it super sells the theory.
Counselors aren't meant to solve your problem, they're meant to assist the person in realising what they need and how to do it, whether that's by talking about their feelings or giving them advice. It's all on the person if they take any of it to heart and make changes in their life.
a blue glasslike staircase exists in the casino outside the map high up in the sky so that may be it as there is new content in the casino according to the trailer.
Here in this video towards the end you can se the staircase:ua-cam.com/video/_u9KhO68rgM/v-deo.html
The890Gamer Kasumi says that yet look at her in the trailer... She's a member of the phantom thieves... Didn't she say to goro that she believed that what the phantom thieves are doing being noble but also futile? She states that nobody can change their situation other than the person themself, but that statement totally contradicts her becoming a phantom thief...
If it's done well, Akechi getting a redemption arc I could put up with. Especially if it leads to him joining something like a Suicide Squad of evil Persona users.
Adachi, Akechi, and Sho Minazuki trio. Because this has gone too far
Counselor activates Infinite Tsukoyomi
You called it
fucking legend
Seeing the thumb nail alone is enough to tell me this video would be gold, I wasn't wrong.
They even got the hair being slicked back right...
Based solely on the way he seems to be acting, and the way that he is is interacting with the students, the counsellor reminds me of Ikutsuki from Persona 3. He seems almost too friendly. Although we haven't seen much of him yet, that's the sort of impression I'm getting from him, although he is probably more powerful than Ikutsuki ever was, that is, if he is actually some sort of villain, which I think he will be. I doubt Atlus would just throw in a new character for no reason at all.
Katherine Stacey I think atlus adding a random new character in the trailer out of nowhere can be hinting at how important he may be later on. b.c if you think about it, why him? Didn't atlus say there were going to be new confidants to interact with? Why they specifically choose this counselor dude of all ppl and not anyone else sounds very suspicious...
Now I want a fic in which Xander Mobus is the true final boss with Dagdanzen as his persona...
He comes in with an army of Master and Crazy hands. After the battle he gives Joker the letter to enter Smash Bros. because someone thought is was a good idea to make the persona dancing games and the 3ds games canon so why not the same for Smash.
After finally playing Royal I had to rewatch this in awe of how accurate it was
10:26 "Rebel", it's his form of rebellion, the accuracy here is hilarious
Head canon that Altus had a completely diffrent plan and saw this vid like WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE RHAT FOWN
I think I'm going to start calling Apple juice, Lucifer Juice from now on
Lucy Juicy.
I feel the need to point out that Kasumi’s name can be read as “Fog” in Japanese. So the P4 vibes might be very intentional.
But, taken the kanji differently, it can mean "flower, blossom" and "pure, clear", so, probably, the name was chosen for another reason and it could be related to our Final Boss.
Dr. Latency You’re talking about her surname. I’m talking about her given name, which is in hiragana
Would be pretty cool if she's free Inaba.
Real funny listening to this again after learning what the Counselor's deal is.
Persona 5 Royal Shlockulation: The Counselor is Evil and Other 'Theories': The Animation
Also I'm pretty sure the human morgana and the wakaba revival is a result of the PTs being erased by yaldabaoth, and giving up on society until Joker comes to remind them of the reasons they all became PT's.
perhaps all of the deaths in the Metaverse get undone with it being erased, and they modify Morgana transforming into a proper cat into becoming a human, as it MIGHT be likely that Morgana was intended to be made a human but Igor was unable to complete the transformation before being imprisoned and he ended up as the cat. I mean, he talks - he walks on 2 legs, etc.
well, not Okumura as he was exploiting the Metaverse to kill the competition
SSJGamer well... p5r does take place AFTER the event with yaldaboath, and the true ending... If this is true then that would mean that the events will start at the beginning of the third semester, it has to be b.c the game features a third semester at shujin. The metaverse is not gone based on the trailers, so it can be assumed that the phantom thieves did not win against yaldaboath since he is still in control of mementos and cognition and crap... So that would mean that yaldaboath reset reality where everyone gets their desires/dreams.
“Futaba having a human form”
I found it funny when P5R has to do with wishes but the people wanted P5 to be on Nintendo switch never got their wish
Sony has the mainline Persona games in their grasp, and I really can't blaim them for it. That's a strong franchise to have.
@@Alex-mb2cy Takes a less petty person than I to not hold a grudge about a lack of PC or Switch ports.
Well
This is scarily accurate to the actual plot of P5R
This video will be really funny if he turns out just to be a normal dude
Versus 22 that’s the line atlus is sticking with
@@tcoren1 like goro as a NORMAL npc not party member
You mad lad. You actually mad lad
Kasumi Yoshizawa is Monika 2.0 and let not forget yuri and natsuke already have an anime
Joker: what’s your master plan nep nep?
Nep nep: eh! Just fuck with teenagers and drink apple juice
Lol was so right about Maruki taking the grail power and learning about meta verse thru the phantom thieves seriously I’m glad I forgot about this video the first time I saw it while play persona 5 royal
If persona 5 the royal isn’t strictly how you guys are imaging it would be I’ll be very disappointed. Atlus take notes pls.
Guess you enjoyed it then
i watched this video today, and i was like..... WTF this was made like a year ago
Furio Cola IKR like they even got Maruki being NepNep. Kinda Azatoth is his dad.
Right? At first I thought this video was a review of the new plot.
The apple juice-forbidden fruit comment was genius in hindsight with the whole Adam Kadmon persona.
if everyones dreams come true, like how far is the range. cause lets say p5 MC is at his lowest point to decide whether to re-kill futubas mum or keep futuba happy and everyone elses dream. and then a certain blue haired door kun turns up to give advice (OR if atlus remembers maki exists and uses her since dream world v reality is p1 all over) cause we know that elizabeth wishes to bring him back, that can be classed as a "dream" be absolute fanservice but one that be effective
Then p1 protag And tetsuya show up and remind joker how good his life ended up in comparison to every other protag.
@@dragonthunderx3250 yeah his life is pretty great. The others either died, forgot each other, or moved away from friends that they can only see every now and then.
i can just see it in front of my eyes that counselor guy will beat the entire crew and then when all hope seems lost goro akechi ascends from the heavens and he and Joker will team up to beat him up.
This video has aged too well!
18:50 Hassle Akechi
19:40 Nugget Akechi for reference.
I almost wanna forget all about P5R just to watch this video and play the game blind again
Lucifer trying disguise himself
Fither: STOOPID I AINT EVEN GONNA GIVE YOU THE CHANCE
I was expecting to see some really far out there theories when I clicked this video, but now I can easly see that this whole "Chaos versus Order versus Justice" could be what the new part of the story is about.
It's a mexican stand off of abstract concepts!
The moment you start talking about illuminaty and aizen just cracks me up.
"he is drinking apple juice. whats apples a symbol of? this fucker is a Lucifer!"
i CANNOT fathom how insane this symbolic theorizing was.
*and they were right*
that just absolutely kills me every time
The Consoler goes up to Goro shoots Goro in the Smomach and tell him as he takes off his glasses with his other hand, when you under the impression you caused the mental shut downs?
Anyone (fither and co. included) do you think Philemon is actually going to show up this time?
Sadly, it is unlikely. But you’d think Igor’s boss would be pretty pissed off at Yaldabouth for pretending to be Igor.
Fitheory: Is the Counselor Actually Lucifer??
dongledude. Fitheory: is the councillor actually teddie
dongledude. He should do it for april’s fools 2021 if the councouler turns out to be a good guy
Persona 5 Royal is actually just SMTV.
Spoilers ⬇️
HOW?? HOW DID HE GET IT RIGHT HE EVEN GOT THE COGNITION AND HAPPINESS PART RIGHT
EDIT:I CAME BACK AND "REMOVES HIS GLASSES WITH SLICK BACK HAIR"
IM ACTUALLY AFRAID OF THESE GUYS NOW HOLY SHIT
Okay, crazy theory time. I don’t know if it’s just me being a contrarian or something, but I am dead convinced that the counselor is a good guy. But not only is he a good guy, Takuto is Philemon.
Think about it, where is Philemon during all of Persona 5 when his velvet room is being taken over? And as a counselor, this guy is in the perfect position to guide the Phantom Thieves to get stringer and defeat Jabadabado. Sure Atlus didn’t’t bother bringing him up before in P5 Vanilla, but now with the Royal, they can tell a different story.
Mind you, This is probably not what Atlus would do, considering they even took SMT out of the title...
“The counselor is the villain” well yes but actually no.
i've never seen someone talk about something in a joking way only for it to be true
1:03 spot on, this video aged like wine
the choice between Kasumi(chaos) and akechi(law) except its just Cathrine
Wheres the neutral route trans that pisses off the mainstream media for not making the trans a perfect being.
Great coming back to this after Royal.
It’s crazy how they got this right
The fact that he appears in the same game Kasumi is introduced is admittedly quite suspicious. He could be the Palace ruler for the dungeon Kasumi is introduced in, and that's the most likely theory for his role as a villain.
Whew
HE’S DRINKING APPLE JUICE
All I can see when I look at Kasumi's PT outfit now is the Crawling Chaos.
Well he wasn’t NepNep, but he had his dad.
How can Kasumi be real if our eyes aren't real?
Asking the real questions
And then p5r's opening song colorblind kicks in.
This video is the one that's gonna make me subscribe. I'm fully convinced that all of this theory (the serious parts anyway) is going to be true. Or at least it would be true if P5 had good writers, but I guess we'll see in a few months. Loved the video, loved the discussion, loved the dynamic between all the participants.
This was both interesting and hilarious. Thank y'all for this.
This aged way too well
Dagda is Kasumi's requiem stand
Wow you guys were sooo close, but yoshizawa does not work with maruki, she has her own thoughts. she dislikes the idea of having something/ someone (like the phantom thieves) as a safety net for the society, because it hinders groth.
I know this is a crazy theory but what if it turns out that Yaldabaoth is the counselor's persona and the whole time someone was controlling Yaldabaoth? a.k.a The counselor
This is the type of quality content I subscribed for
Bruh they got it like 80% right lmao
Will they add new side girl to date ?
Yes
You'll be able to date Shinya's mom if you max his S.link
The one true waifu of Persona 5. Preach!
Finally, no longer must we get smoked
Holy shit... I can’t say what you guys got right but damn watching this again after playing it😱
This aged well.
Like fine wine.
pretty much everything in this game is just "well yes, but actually no"