Fantastic! The though of a fish swimming/sliding, up and down the rig body and not knowing there was a fish on had me in tears, LOL! I fish the Bristol Chanel from both sides and I prefer The 5ft pulley rig too.
The pulley dropper/up and over works as a long running ledger once it's in the water. They work well for rays here on South Devon beaches, but I've started using pulley dongle rigs and get a better hook up rate. The up and overs work well for plaice here too, but I refer a pulley wishbone rig for them.
Pulley and running up and over are two of the 3 rigs i usually use for all my fishing with bigger single baits. The other being a 2 hook clipped rig. Even if fishing at closer range, i just dont cast as far.
Very interesting video with logical explanations. I fish in Greece both pulley and up and over rigs. They fish nicely. During my last sessions I have tried the pulley dropper rig. I fished it on a jetty with deep water. I liked it. Maybe it is the right place to use it.
Well explained but where I shore fish a lot, in the Mersey estuary, I’d always be casting square to the tide, or slightly downtide so the pulley dropper would be fishing as it should.
I use the pulley dropper a lot and did believe it was fishing how you explained but think I will be converting over, very well made video perfect explanation, tight lines dean hope to see you on the beach soon
One of the problems with fishing downtide is deep hooked fish. Bass particularly tend to swim against the tide when hunting. If a bait is presented downtide then the fish has little or no resistance from the line/lead or rod which will allow it to swallow the bait deep. Happened once to me and since then I fish straight out or uptide from the beach.
Very interesting video. My fishing is East coast for Thornbacks where I use both pulley and up & over as we have pretty clean but muddy ground. What I have developed over time is a rig that combines both. Everything except the two swivels is free moving which helps to ensure release every cast. It's taken a while to come up with the best length as I found that too long would sometimes not release the top hook and too short just didn't catch as well. I have had many double shots of rays on this rig included successive casts of double shots. The pulley dropper I just can't get on with so that's not in my arsenal anymore. I will be coming to Cardiff in September to try for a blonde but I'm thinking your area may not be a good area for my double rig due to the potential size of the fish there. I love the way you explain things in such detail as many videos don't explain both the pros and the cons of rigs and their component parts.
Thanks great vido, will make my pulleys longer, I have a question, im hoping to get out down west wales for tope this year( hopefully). Fishing high up into deep water and strong tides, what rig would you use in this situation the normal pulley or up n over sliding rig? Thanks.
Dean, I used your long pulley rigs for the first time, 3 casts 3 rays on the mersey using a t700, still practicing with the t900, cant quite compresd it just yet but getting better with you laid back cast, thanks for all your tips @deanbooker3314
Found this Dean and it makes a lot of sense well done. Tight lines
Very interesting, now i know why the pulley rig works better for me. Thank you.
Fantastic! The though of a fish swimming/sliding, up and down the rig body and not knowing there was a fish on had me in tears, LOL! I fish the Bristol Chanel from both sides and I prefer The 5ft pulley rig too.
The pulley dropper/up and over works as a long running ledger once it's in the water. They work well for rays here on South Devon beaches, but I've started using pulley dongle rigs and get a better hook up rate. The up and overs work well for plaice here too, but I refer a pulley wishbone rig for them.
Pulley and running up and over are two of the 3 rigs i usually use for all my fishing with bigger single baits. The other being a 2 hook clipped rig.
Even if fishing at closer range, i just dont cast as far.
Very interesting video with logical explanations. I fish in Greece both pulley and up and over rigs. They fish nicely.
During my last sessions I have tried the pulley dropper rig. I fished it on a jetty with deep water. I liked it. Maybe it is the right place to use it.
Nice one Deano ,well explained and I know your rigs catch you plenty
Well explained but where I shore fish a lot, in the Mersey estuary, I’d always be casting square to the tide, or slightly downtide so the pulley dropper would be fishing as it should.
I use the pulley dropper a lot and did believe it was fishing how you explained but think I will be converting over, very well made video perfect explanation, tight lines dean hope to see you on the beach soon
Great information Dean 👍
One of the problems with fishing downtide is deep hooked fish.
Bass particularly tend to swim against the tide when hunting.
If a bait is presented downtide then the fish has little or no resistance from the line/lead or rod which will allow it to swallow the bait deep.
Happened once to me and since then I fish straight out or uptide from the beach.
totally agree Dean i have tested the dropper pulley and i find it next to useless for were i fish up and over is much better grate info Dean
Very clever mate, perfectly explained.
Very good information good description
Very interesting video. My fishing is East coast for Thornbacks where I use both pulley and up & over as we have pretty clean but muddy ground. What I have developed over time is a rig that combines both. Everything except the two swivels is free moving which helps to ensure release every cast. It's taken a while to come up with the best length as I found that too long would sometimes not release the top hook and too short just didn't catch as well. I have had many double shots of rays on this rig included successive casts of double shots. The pulley dropper I just can't get on with so that's not in my arsenal anymore. I will be coming to Cardiff in September to try for a blonde but I'm thinking your area may not be a good area for my double rig due to the potential size of the fish there. I love the way you explain things in such detail as many videos don't explain both the pros and the cons of rigs and their component parts.
Excellent explanation Dean👍 i tried to explain this to a mate of mine about the dropper rig but he still disagreed 😱 each to there own i guess 🎣🎣🎣
Once again cracking video from dean 💪🏻👍👍
Thanks Tom, Dean certainly knows his onions :-)
Well explained Dean. The information has been well noted
Great information Dean 👍
Thanks great vido, will make my pulleys longer,
I have a question, im hoping to get out down west wales for tope this year( hopefully).
Fishing high up into deep water and strong tides, what rig would you use in this situation the normal pulley or up n over sliding rig?
Thanks.
interesting, what are your views on up & over rigs with a running lead?
will your theory work for flatfish i.e dabs
Logic is key
Very true, the pulley dropper is such a useless rig.
The running up& over is far superior in every way.
Are you 5 foot
Dean, I used your long pulley rigs for the first time, 3 casts 3 rays on the mersey using a t700, still practicing with the t900, cant quite compresd it just yet but getting better with you laid back cast, thanks for all your tips @deanbooker3314