Why are You, Doctor Mandel, the ONLY Doctor who explains this?! I’ve been to so many others who didn’t do anything or seem to know what they were doing!
I developed this during COVID from poor desk posture, been on a whole journey but this all makes the most sense. Neck pain manifests itself all throughout the body
That's so true. I love this presentation and stand 💯percent with your concept. God bless you, yes, fear not saying the truth, because the mainstream makes good money by surgical procedure at any opportunity, knowing that once a muscle and nerves are cut, they will never heal completely, there will always remain scar tissue that will keep those victims their "repeat clients" forever. If people would understand the importance of your words, be contagious to trust nature and miraculous healing powers our body is blessed by, they would save themselves the unfortunate agony for the rest of their lives. God bless you ❤️
Never had an injury after 35yrs of football and rough housing. Now at 37 after drinking and bad eating i have a belly first time in my life. After weight lifting now i have a pinched nerve around T6-8 smh... Complete wellness is true health. The body is one not segmented
Hi Dr. I have always had pretty poor posture, and as I get older (51 this month) I seem to be having much more pain in the lower to mid area of the back. The symptoms you described were right on the money, pain up high in the chest that moves around to just below the armpits. Taking deep breaths, coughing and sneezing, or just moving a certain way would set it off. The pain was so bad that I had a hard time even doing any type of stretching to alleviate it. Went to my doctor who prescribed an anti inflammatory and ordered an MRI. Still fighting with the insurance company for the MRI, imagine that! Long story short. The other day, I decided to drag out my inversion table and give it a try. Spent about 5 minutes on it and felt no noticeable difference. Went to bed that night and when I woke up the next morning I couldn't believe it, I felt like a whole new man. I don't know exactly what it did, but boy did it make a difference. Now I try to use it at least a couple of minutes each day.
I’m in excruciating pain! Any time I stand up or sit in a chair, and NO injury. My PT claims it’s herniated. I’ve never experienced such pain. Any time I stand up, my rib in the front start vibrating and the pain is insufferable. 😢
Here we are a month or so later and I seem to be cured! Im not sure if it was time or some of the things I learned on UA-cam. I took the protoeolytic enzymes that this doctor recommended, I drank bone broth as he advised, I drank 3-4 quarts of water a day, I took glucosamine chondroitan as he recommended, and I was in bed for almost three months. Thank goodness I didn’t have to get the shots or surgery which was the next step.
@@LKaramazov So you did bed rest??? I have been in pain for 8 months and off work and everything has failed for me. I am considering laying down in bed and never getting up
@@christoole6820 I saw a video that talked about protoelytic enzymes that could heal the disc. And I took bone broth. I don’t know if the helped or if it was just time. It’s hard to believe what I went through now that I’m better. I had a herniated disc that was pinching a nerve. The timing of your post is scary because I felt a twinge there today. If this happens again, oh God! There was also a chiropractic technique called the Cox technique. I don’t know if it helped, but I liked the idea of it. I hear you. No one should have to suffer like you’re suffering! I pray you get better soon!
Hey Dr.Mandell, at 18yrs old 2 years ago I believe to have herniated a thoracic disc in the region around T-7. It was do to an accident at the gym; where I hyperextended myself with a load over top causing great compression. The following days after I had radiating nerve pain/itch runing to my legs arms, also unbearable numbness right around the T-7 region, and swelling flared up near T-7 area. As time went on it worsened, so i decided to see a PT and started increasing mobility, fixing imbalance's, learning exercises to improve and treat my injury. My PT also preformed pistol manipulation causing a great relief, almost like it was cured in a sense. Though my PT was not sure about what type of injury i had, but he thought it to be a vertabrea fracture. So as the years went on and i got a bit better to were it was bearable. I was determined to recover after PT, so I started going back to the gym exercising, working on my transverse abdominis, mobility, stretches and so on. Things were looking good, pain was miniscule and healing process was slow. Its been 2yrs and i still have symptoms flare up. So My question for you Dr is if any one of the symptoms above i listed a result of a disc hernation or of a compression fracture? because when I apply pressure around the t-7 vertabrea I seem to get a brused feeling and sharp pains right on the vertabrea. Also can i 100% recover from this injury to continue living a active and pain free life? Thanks for your time Dr, God bless!
I did have thoracic surgery. I had 5 thoracic discs fused because they were literally crumbling. The fusion failed and I am left with Intractable pain that makes me not want to live. I am now on opiods and have found some relief but the pain continues and wraps all the way around to my sternum. It is really hard to find information on this. I will look into chiropractic and see if they can add it to my other treatments which include physical therapy, mental health, and several alternative treatments that I am always open too. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Thank you so much for the info:)
Exactly and well said & Suffering. When did cat and dog strech pain hits very hard and unable to move. So guys dont ever try cat streches. Rightly said have belly. Thanks for suggestions. Any good exercises please.
I have a pretty bad bulging disc at t2 and another one at t8. I've been watching your videos for a while and they're helpful. Do a lot of my own research but can't seem to find a good exercise to do for the t2 herniation. Trigger point therapy and painkillers is the only thing that helps but I'm still trying to do anything I can to recover from this since its been 9 years and I'm 27 now. My doctors haven't been very helpful in the information department. It's such a rare condition that it's hard to find useful information about recovery
I doubt that the condition is stemming only from the T2 bulging disc. Most likely it is a tribute to forward head posture her and other compensatory muscles.
@@mahsun742 Over time, I finally learned how to manage my physical conditions. And Dr Mandell was right about the forward head posture. Even now, if I stay in a position like that for any length of time, I feel it in my neck, shoulders and upper/mid back. I have to stretch and do yoga a lot throughout the day to maintain it. I still work in warehouses and there are lots of things that aggravate my conditions, however good posture and frequent stretching helps a lot. I dont over do anything and I dont twist my back when doing anything. Moving the wrong way is guaranteed to injure you. And moving and lifting the wrong way causes micro traumas that you dont notice until you do something one too many times and then you feel the injury. It's important to know the difference between nerve pain and when you've pulled something in your back because you need to know when to rest and take it easy and when to stretch. It's all a balancing act. I still have issues but luckily most days I am ok and able bodied. I'm 33 now, have been living with these issues since I was 18. I'm doing better now with it than ever. And no longer on pain killers. I dont even take aspirin or ibuprofen. Years ago when I commented on this video, I never thought I would've came this far. And still to this day, no doctor or chiropractor that I've went to see in person has never given me any advice on managing my conditions. It was all my own research and people like Dr Mandell putting out helpful youtube videos. I dont just have the disc herniations and nerve damage. All my joints are messed up from manufacturing and warehouse work over the years. After a while, I realized a lot of my joint problems are because the muscles are tight. So when my low back and knees hurt, it's time to stretch the glutes, calves, and quadriceps. Then my legs feel light as a feather again and no knee pain or low back pain. Once I understood anatomy, how muscles work with each other, and the difference between nerve pain and muscle pain, that was the key to knowing what stretches to do to help any particular issue I was having. Now I just have a constant daily routine of things I do that helps me stay on top of it. I really had to educate myself and listen to what my body is telling me in order to get through this. At one point even the stretches didnt work because I was over doing that and further injuring myself. Always know the limits of your body. Thats the key to not over doing things.
Hello Dr Mandell I'm sure I have this condition and it gets worse if I over extent my spine or flex my neck to much. The pain radiates around to my ribs and is like a stabbing pain. Could it be that these movements compress the vertebrae on the outer part forcing a bulge to push on a nerve? I had an MRI scan that showed nothing but it was in a period without pain. Thank you.
I have a thoracic herniated disc but it effects my right leg only, I cannot walk without a cane or walker. I'm only 60 and have had this for a year now, no pain. My Neurologist does not want surgery and tells me to retrain my brain to walk. Will it get better on it's own? I'm in great shape and work out twice a day. Thank you!
Hi, I've had symptoms of excruciating radiating pain to the sternum for over 2.5 years. I am currently 19 years old and used to swim 20 hours a week so was physically fit, I was misdiagnosed for nearly 2 years as having costochondritis. I underwent 3 months NHS physio, had chest x rays, MRI and ECG and everything came back clear. I then had 4 months chiropractor and the pain was still there. A year ago a began suffering from sciatica and for the last 6 month I have been seeing a sports therapist that has diagnosed two herniated disks in the thoracic spine, she uses ultra sound therapy and myofacial release and I do exercises at home. However, I have just tried to gently get back into exercise (30 mins gentle swim) and I am still in excruciating pain. I have put on a massive amount of weight and lost a lot of muscle since the onset of pain and after so long of being in pain I am now seriously considering surgery, what would you suggest? Is there anything else I can do to relieve the pain?
My dr says i have disc degeneration in thoracic region. Ive have extreme pain in ribs, rib cage, i cant move much, i have have painful spasms. He gave me muscle relaxer, ordered no exercise, but to walk. I cant lift or bend without spasms.
Great videos Doctor Mandell ... I have a question .. I have problem with my right schoulder and with the right side of my upper back .. if i look in the mirror I see that my bone of that area is kind of directed outwards ... so i mean my both shoulders are not equal ... what can I do ? could you please do a video about this topic ? Please help me
I used to do heavy squats with improper form and I think I herniated a disc in my thoracic spine. I’ve had pain under left rib cage for about 5 years, recently I went to chiropractor to fix it and finally got the back to crack right behind the rib cage now the pain is more intense in my back and radiating to my upper stomach/ lower ribs. If I foam roll and crack the spot on my back the pain goes away for about an hour then it comes back.
Hey doc, I herniated a disc in my thoracic spine at the T7-8 level a year and a half ago. it's gotten better, but never back to normal. Honestly, do you think a DRX-9000 would work for a thoracic spine herniation at the T7-8 level?
Hello sir : I injured my upper back deadlifting three months ago when i went to the doctor they gave me oral steroids for inflammation and muscle relaxant. I have given three months break from lifting and last week when I tried to do even cardio any exercise my upper back start to get spasm and the pain travel around my ribs and gave me bad headache. The only thing i can do is lay down for hours to get back to normal. I have no mri since i dont have insurance and am an international student here. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks
Naved Khazi just dont do deadlifting it’s gonna take more than that to heal i have one year with upper back pain because i kept doing shoulders and chest when i start waking up without pain i’ll know i started healing
The MRI says all of my thoracic is herniated. Bulges. The lumbar 3 out of 5 discs bulging as well. Due to trauma. I have been diagnosed multi level degenerative discs as well.
Exercises and treatments: hanging on a bar, putting ice, professional massage, strengthen core, back extension on a ball, kick backs, stretching the hamstring muscles, stretching the hip flexors, suck in the belly button. Hope you are healthy now a year after your comment.
Hello sir, I m from India I have two herniated disc at D11 D12, and D12 L1 mostly compress is in D12 L1 .. I want to ask you, Can the disc heal or not (exercise, physiotherapy,etc) ????
Hi Dr. I have been diagnosed with a large T9-T10 herniated disc that is touching my spinal cord. I do get mild pain in the area as well as pain that wraps around my ribs. However, most of my pain is approximately 5 vertebras above the herniation. There is nothing significant in my thoracic area other than the T9-T10 herniation. How is this possible? It is my understanding that pain would travel to the side or down and not up. Please explain. Thank you
Same here. I have a small T8-T9 disk bulge. I do have some pain in that area but more intense pain is in the upper back. Did you ever get any answers? Did you ever find relief from the pain?
@@gayanekrikorova5849Same here! It’s going upwards rather then downwards. Doctors have injected me and burned the nerves but I’m still in so much pain after 8 months smh. Have you done anything to remove the pain?
i like ur video, but time is not healing me. i have been in pain for 10 years and seen at least 25 doctors, and done several therapies, they even thought i had fibromyalgia, but the last doctor i saw was a spine doctor and he thinks it could be a herniated disc, now that i am doing my research it can definitely be, but at the same time makes wonder, why therapies and antiimflamtories did not fix it? i possibly have herniated disc in thoracic spine and neck because i have really bad left arm pain and horrible back pain. I can even tell which disc is bad cuz i cant even touch it. What is your advice?
I have a 2mm bulging disk at T8-T9. I was pushed on my back and now 3 months later I see no improvement. Has anyone had experience with finding relief? Getting back to normal? Or is this a life sentence?
I have 6 thoracic herniation and from t1 to t12 the are either herniated or bulging, since 2010 I have had burning radiating pain all around my mid section. Numbness and aching pain. I also experience extremly painfull jolts of pain when moving arms, bending, and twisting at times. Can't sit for prolonged periods or stand. Tge burning is horroble. Being under pain management for 11 years. The only thing that has helped are ablation treatments. My life is basically destroyed. Are there any videos that you can do to help someone like me. I can send you my MRI.
hello doctor, i have upper back pains for almost 4 years now and i recently had an MRI, which showed T8, T9 disc herniation and muscle dystrophy. the problem is i am in a foreign country and the language is the main issue that i cant really take the treatment or healing process any further apart from massage.... the pain is very severe that i cant stand or sit for more than 20 min, what do you suggest i do that can help? please reply, i really need this.
@@LKaramazov the first one was done incorrectly,I found out about it when my L4 started hurting plus I had a cyst on the side of it, I was highly recommended to a surgeon in Clearwater that saw the mistake that was made,he went ahead and fixed the problem and removed the old hardware that was placed incorrectly and gave me a new lease on my life, I can’t thank him enough,unfortunately he retired last year!
@@SuperThunder911 what a nightmare. Many of These doctors are such quacks! I’m glad you got a good one, but I’ve heard soooo many stories of surgeons that botched the surgeries, it’s almost like they mess up on purpose. I got my thoracic hernia at the beginning or April and the pain goes from my back along my ribs to my sternum. I couldn’t even walk or sit. Only the past two weeks has the pain subsided , with. No help from anyone in the medical profession, but i still can’t work,and am in bed most of the day. They prescribed meloxicam, but when I saw the risks I said “ forget it” next they wanna give me shots,, and possibly surgery. I’m hoping it just gets better on its own. Thanks for the warning.
I used to sleep on hard surface , mostly right side , i felt pain in mid back , then thread like pain in thigh muscle , then to the toe. I can play cricket , footlball, volleyball with no pain But still i feels pain in midback & so on in sitting position So please suggest me what can i do to get rid of it .
hi Dr mendall i am a physical therapist, i have a patient with t7 to t11 disc herniations, has radiating pain down the ribs and upto the sternuma nd epigastric areas , mostly on left side. what manual techniques can use with him, although when i do deep massage and MFR it works for 2 hours only and the pain returns back , and which exercises should i concentrate on other than core stabilisation, thanks alot in advance
Long axis traction can be helpful. Although with specific types of tables it is much easier to perform. Inversion therapy can also be helpful for him. Yes, poor is great. Although strength in the glutes may be a big asset for him as well. Stretching the quadratus lumborum and hip flexors would also be helpful in most cases.
+motivationaldoc how can i perform long axis traction? can it manually done ? if yes, can u post a video or a link to it ? the patient is 91kg , and has atrial fibrillation, and both SI joint pain, do you think inversion table would be a good option ? please reply
We have certain types of distraction tables that actually would do that. Although the only thing I would think of is putting something soft under him flexing his thoracic spine while laying prone. And then using your hands and distracting. One hand would go superior and other inferior. With his health history inversion would not be recommended.
doc... i only have massive pain around t10-t11 and t3-4 also the pain goes to the left shoulder, around the shoulder blade... someties is pain sometimes it goes numb
Hello Dr, I'm athletic woman, I had pain in the middle of my back two month ago, and MRI showed that I have Thoracic Herniated Disc. The last month I wore neck brace to reduce my back and neck movements as my doctor recommended. I really felt good. However, I toke off the brace this month and I start doing exercises every day for the herniated disc, but the pain start again and I guess it getting worse. I really take care of my back pain like the most important thing in my life. My question is: do the usual movements such as straight my back while setting could increases the problem?
So my herniated disk is between the top lumbar and bottom thoracic disk. Do I do thoracic exercises, or lumbar exercises for that point? I have been doing months of lumbar exercises for an L4 herniated disk but it has done nothing for the bottom most thoracic hernia.
hi doc. so i have a cervical disc herniation on the c6-C7 level, thoraccic spine herniated disc T8 T9 and degeneration of the last three lumbar vertebrae. im 23 and can attribute the cervical and thoraccic herniations to forward head posture and muscle imbalances (very right hand dominant) i used to lift weights mountainbike do mma and was a volunteer firefighter for a few years and never had any problems until i started college on the otherside of the world and began a sedentary lifestyle. now my question is what could my disc ddgeneration be from and what can i do to help it? ive began walking an hour a day keeping bettee posture and watching your videos i would apreciate any comments from your part
Maintaining exercise and good posture is most important. Our bodies do pay a price for the abuse we put on them. That's good you are aware and now you have to make a commitment to take care of it by doing the right things.
I've been having pain in my thoracic spine just at bra strap level and when this happens I get acid reflux I've never had reflux before and when I ice my back the reflux subsides can this happen?
Can you do some kind of exercises? It seems I have it too..just going for test results. Pain doesn't scare me, sudden weakness, heart jumping and that that I cant go up the stairs normally scares me. It happens latelly if I do something physically hard.
Great video! Do you have suggestions on sleeping positions? I have a herniated disk in the cervical C6/C7 as well as a T4-9 and a bulge 12-L1. I am not having any pain in my rib cage etc. and believe it's occurred based on the type of work I do...Reiki practitioner - holding hand/arm positions while bent over a bit.
Hi doc i was diagnose of schwannoma at T8,T9,before i can hardly walk or move my leg now i can step my leg with assist of my family..can meninggioma cure without surgery?
Hey Dr, I have numerous Herniated Discs in the Thoracic region along with mild to severe cord compression. I was sitting at a VERY un ergonomically office desk and twisted to my right to put papers in the trash while someone walked by and leaned on my chair causing it to spin resulting in a painful loud crackling noise like a drinking stray in my entire thoracic region followed by immediate tightness ever since. MRIs have showed Herniation's of T2,3,4,6,7, 10, 11,12 etc with T-11 & T-12 having the most damage with visible cord compression and Im always feeling and having a grinding and popping in the area. What type of Dr or treatment would be best for this? PT never worked and Injections only worked for a short time. (Workers Comp Injury) so i been stuck running around from different drs etc and trying to just get better. Injury was from 2012
Hello Dr. Great uplifting advice. Had a question MRI came out with 2mm central disk protrusion/ annular fissure at t-7-8 indents the anterior cord surface. Is it possible to heal completely?
Thank you sir! I do feel a bit better, knowing physical therapy and correct daily habits. Will help, I was just diagnosed yesturday with the t8and t9 pushing against the nerve, and I am freaking out. I'm very active. And the sound of not being able to do anything anymore is frightening!! Looking forward to watching more videos of yours
Is it possible to have these issue cause coldness up to back of neck to the middle back and kind of behind the arms. I fell to my knees and then caught my self on for arm. Since then 2 weeks ago I have been having varying degrees of chills in those areas since
I experienced problems with perinal area (spasm, loss of sensation) at first. I was diagnosed with t11/12 disc herniation - mri suggests that it is the reason as it slightly indirectly puts pressure on spinal cord. Neurosurgeon and many other doctors as well as physiotherapists suggest that it is not the reason. After some time the symptoms involved strange feeling in legs but strength is preserved. Only muscles are stiff and flexed - is it possible to have such a thing from thoracic disc herniation on that level or is it really some cause of cointunuous anxiety??
Hello Dr mandell I have a T12 T11 disc bulge and it's causing me weakness in my right leg and a huge lack of blance and walking around starts to be come very hard for long distances and sometimes I have bladder problems
dr alan mandell is necessary to do some kind of exercise for the development the muscles of the neck if i dont want to have a herniated disc in that area in the future?
Hi! I was wondering, I have an herniated disc in T3-T4 and I was considering doing the inversion table, but I wonder, how long should I hang ? and just I go gradually?
I have a t7-t8 disc herniation with dehydration in my disc space. I’ve had it over 5 years and i have never been asymptomatic. I am in tremendous pain everyday. My back is always very tight and severe inflammation. My inversion table doesn’t work for me, i think because i get light headed. I have started taking turmeric. I’m at my wits end. I literally cry at times because I feel like my pain will never go away.
MiloBaBy09 hey milobaby09, I have a t7-t8 bulge/herniation too. A few years back I needed a fusion at t12-L1, and because I’m unable to bend normally there, it has worn down my spine at t7-t8. It’s gotten progressively worse since my fusion, and I’m at year 4 now. I’m forced to spend 90% of my day laying flat on my back on the floor. Any standing of sitting immediately activates it, and if I’m up long enough, it reaches 10/10 pain. PT, and injections have had to affect. I’m trying a stem cell injection into the disc next week. Maybe that will help heal the area a bit. If anyone has any suggestions, I’d really appreciate it!!! Ty!!
Same issue witb me, though over many months, my body is healing. Finding a good chiropractor would be one thought. One helped my back pain. Epidural steroid injections, strong muscle relaxers would be helpful. If your doctors aren't helping you, I'd go to the ER. You shouldn't suffer in severe pain.
It's very strange how when I try to relax every muscle in my body I suddenly get the muscles in the back of my neck pulling really hard uncontrollably and then when I stop relaxing the pulling becomes less intense. I've been to doctors but they don't see anything wrong. They tell me to just do stretches and strengthening exercises. I wonder what it could be. It's very hard to sit or stand comfortably, I also get pain in my midback and in the neck, moreso in the mid back or upper midback.
Hi I just saw your comment, it feels like we have the same/similar symptoms. Just wondering if you manage to improve your pain. Feel free to check my previous comment to get the issues I'm facing. All the best!
Really sorry to hear you're also going through this. I haven't fully recovered but the symptoms have improved slightly, not much though. I just keep doing the exercises and stretches I'm learning about from this channel, I don't think there's a more thorough channel on this subject so at least we're lucky to have this resource. You can learn a lot here. Also, what helps me endure is going through a list of things to be grateful for every day as often as possible, it does wonders to put things in perspective and alleviate the frustration somewhat. Have you been to a doctor yet? The doctors I've seen are so inept :-/
I am doing the same, the one with towel behind my neck seems to make me feel better, I also try to use my abdominal muscles more often and putt the pressure there whatever I do. No I haven't seen a doc yet, If the Doc that made this awesome channel was in my town I would have gone straight away!!! Hope you get better and fully recovered mate.
Hi. After reading your post, I think I share your symptoms as well. It's been quite a long time that I've dealt with this constant pain / spasming in the back and shoulder area. I've been to physical therapy, chiropractic, neurology and all sorts of different doctors, and nobody has been able to identify it. Have you had any progress with these videos?
I had a compression fracture in my back T8 and protruding discs. It flares up if I lift anything over 20lbs. It has not effected my legs at all. I am very active and have good posture with a background in dance and fitness. This is very frustrating for me because I own and show horses and I still waterski at the age of 64. I have seen alot of commercial about the laser spin institute, would this be worth looking into. I hate to be sidelined and grow fat and old!
Mine is T8-9 it's been going on for nearly 4 years now and each passing year it's getting worse, lost health insurance and cannot get proper care for this, I am miserable
I got to 4 minutes of this video before I just couldn't watch it anymore. he's reciting everything that is wrong about medicine. he spends the first 3 minutes telling you how everyone is more often going to have herniations in their cervical and lumbar spine. and then he says it again. and then he says it again. by this time I'm aggravated because if I had a cervical or lumbar herniation I wouldn't be here watching this video. number two then he goes on to recite the statistics of how most herniations are in the lower thoracic.yes everybody knows if you look it up that's what you're going to see but what if that still isn't you. if you're like me and you have a t1 t2 herniation and your dermatome has lost sensory.. and between your shoulder blades aches as if you've been hit with a bat on and off all day..well first off he doesn't even discuss upper thoracic back . then here's the one I love plenty of people have herniated discs and don't have any pain. if I were running the country I would ban statements like this. if any of that statement at all is true then there's a physical scientific explanation.. like the herniation they have missed the nerve.. or they have genetically more space in their foramen than you... but you notice this guy doesn't, the doctor you see won't, and a million.5 articles written on this subject will never explain that it's a fluke when someone doesn't have pain...and if you're fine one day and the next day you can't feel half your body and you have a herniated disc that would affect that half of the body these guys should be thrown into jail for saying it's not related and they...yet the doctors have been pulling these shenanigans for a long time on people sending them in circles.. and causing millions of people to suffer
hi doc. i broke T2 over 10yrs ago but now T2 is depressed ..looks to be pushing t1 and t3 and t4 out. walking seems often difficult as the muscles tighten in my back due to the misaligned bone... any ideas on ways to get the bone back up? ive been told how lucky i am i can still walk. ive been pressing into the bone but only just found out it was broken and pressing it ,ive been advised ,will push it further in and lead to paralysis. xrays and 2 mri scans didnt reveal this..i found out through an acupuncturist and also from a massage therapist. i want to fix this. thankyou for any help
Doctor I have a weird one...I had numbness for some months in my right side of my body legs and arms but mainly one side. Brain scans revealed nothing was sent home. Have pain under right shoulder blade and have always had bad posture. Am convinced it's something around my shoulder blade or upper back region. Have you ever heard of anything like this?
Awesome video! Theres almost zero info on thoracic herniations online. One question sir - im 6 months post injury. I havent had much leg pain, but has been mostly localized in mid right back after throwing a guy over my back in jiu jitsu. Not sure if i bulged or herniated the disc. My back is 90% better, but im still not working out with weights. Is this normal to take this long to heal? My pain has been a 4 at the highest, but now is a 2. But it still affects my life, as i cant work out with weights. Ive read it could take 1-2 years to fully heal, is this correct?
It's a very hard question to answer because of the fact I don't know the evaluation of any orthopedic or neurological findings. Moist heat would be good and yes it can take quite a while of time to fully recover.
You didn't perform the throw correctly ! :) I feel your pain my brother. Been there, done that. Four spinal surgeries. Discs get very little blood flow so the healing process is extremely slow. You should see a physical therapist for exercises to help your core and potentially move the disc back into place. Mckenzie exercises and Cat/camel stretch are good. Also, stretch your hip flexor---- a lot ! Core exercises and prone (hands and knees) alternating one arm/opposite leg making sure you keep your hips stable, no rotating.. Good luck !
Hey doc, I have a herniated disc in the t8-t9 area. Also bulges in L4-L5. I am due to undergo surgery end of next month. The procedure will be a fusion of the t8-t9 vertibre & also a microdiscectomy at the L4-L5 level. Does having both procedures pose any risks & do u think it's the right choice to make? I have been doin physio for 6 months & I haven't seen improvement in neither my lower or mid back. I have started to experience pain when breathing occasionally, not sure if that's indicating things are getting worst as I haven't been having that sensation till now. I am very nervous as i am told it's a rare & risky surgery, plus I can't seem to find much info which causes me to think it really is rare & is that much more concerning. If you can give me any kind of perspective it would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.
I have a herniated disc at T7-T8 flattening the ventral cord that is causing muscle spasms, numbness, radiating pain that is absolutely unbearable. Doctors are not helping and just brushing my symptoms off. I'm afraid I will have permanent nerve and spinal cord damage. It's sad to see doctors don't listen to symptoms.
In my case it does on and off depending on the level of inflammation and how angry the nerves are that are affected because it wraps around my entire ribcage into the front and the pain worsens with deep breaths so then I start to feel panicky because I can't breathe and the cycle continues, my disc bulge is at T8-9 level 😩😩
I need help to Diogenes this problem I have pain in middle thoracic region while bending in siting position in symptoms like 1- pain in upper abdomen at right side while sitting long time without support also pain in upper back side in rib cage at right side 2-Feel like pain of strech nerve in thoracic region while bending. 3- numbness in right hand while sleeping or straighting hand 4- to reduce pain or overcome pain i used lay down on bed i am suffering this pain last 4 years no one can Diogenes this pain anyone hear who can help me...?
Imran Karagathra I have a t7-t8 bulge/herniation too. A few years back I needed a fusion at t12-L1, and because I’m unable to bend normally there, it has worn down my spine at t7-t8. It’s gotten progressively worse since my fusion, and I’m at year 4 now. Pain is located at t7-t8 on back area, around my lower ribs, and on my sternum at nipple level (+or-1 inch) I’m forced to spend 90% of my day laying flat on my back on the floor. Any standing of sitting immediately activates it, and if I’m up long enough, it reaches 10/10 pain. PT, and injections have had to affect. I’m trying a stem cell injection into the disc next week. Maybe that will help heal the area a bit. If anyone has any suggestions, I’d really appreciate it!!! Ty!!
In 2015 I fell through a ceiling I had a heat stroke and my back got caught on the beams I did a hyper extension traumatic injury... I pinched my sciatica nerve and herniated 2 disc one in my theroacic spine and one in my lumbar... I try to sit it’s extremely painful and then I drag my right leg around barely able to get around someone please give me tips on how to exercise to relieve pain😐 I’m on strong pain medication and it only goes so far I need help reliving pain right now I’m doing hot showers they help a lot and laying around doing stretches I’m in so much pain please any advice is greatly appreciated
I have a bulging disc at T3/T4. Mri confirmed 6 weeks after the damage done. A chiropractic adjustment with a new chiropractor caused the damage. It's been hurting for three months. I am on pain meds for another issue and I still feel the pain. Hurts too breathe at times. Romboids are knotted now. Do you have any suggestions? Most of everything i read is for lumbar or cervical. If my pain medication is not helping this I might need to strengthen my back. I have fibromyalgia. Low impact exercises.
Hi Doc, I made a sudden movement while sitting 5 months ago and ever since I feel numbness(usually when I bend) in my right midback side only. However 2 months ago I started feeling neck pain as well. It's stoping me for doing anything and I miss my workouts. Don't know what to do...
Why are You, Doctor Mandel, the ONLY Doctor who explains this?! I’ve been to so many others who didn’t do anything or seem to know what they were doing!
I developed this during COVID from poor desk posture, been on a whole journey but this all makes the most sense. Neck pain manifests itself all throughout the body
6:30 to 8:00 excercise
That's so true. I love this presentation and stand 💯percent with your concept. God bless you, yes, fear not saying the truth, because the mainstream makes good money by surgical procedure at any opportunity, knowing that once a muscle and nerves are cut, they will never heal completely, there will always remain scar tissue that will keep those victims their "repeat clients" forever. If people would understand the importance of your words, be contagious to trust nature and miraculous healing powers our body is blessed by, they would save themselves the unfortunate agony for the rest of their lives.
God bless you ❤️
Never had an injury after 35yrs of football and rough housing. Now at 37 after drinking and bad eating i have a belly first time in my life. After weight lifting now i have a pinched nerve around T6-8 smh... Complete wellness is true health. The body is one not segmented
How are u, did u fix the pain?
Thank you for the uplifting information and giving me hope for healing without any invasive intervention.-Joy
Hi Dr.
I have always had pretty poor posture, and as I get older (51 this month) I seem to be having much more pain in the lower to mid area of the back. The symptoms you described were right on the money, pain up high in the chest that moves around to just below the armpits. Taking deep breaths, coughing and sneezing, or just moving a certain way would set it off. The pain was so bad that I had a hard time even doing any type of stretching to alleviate it. Went to my doctor who prescribed an anti inflammatory and ordered an MRI. Still fighting with the insurance company for the MRI, imagine that!
Long story short. The other day, I decided to drag out my inversion table and give it a try. Spent about 5 minutes on it and felt no noticeable difference. Went to bed that night and when I woke up the next morning I couldn't believe it, I felt like a whole new man. I don't know exactly what it did, but boy did it make a difference. Now I try to use it at least a couple of minutes each day.
Great news. It's nice when we can experience a miracle for ourselves. Glad you're doing better. God Bless!
I'd like to try that but I have no room for an inversion table
Not sure to go for this treatment or who provides it
I’m in excruciating pain! Any time I stand up or sit in a chair, and NO injury. My PT claims it’s herniated. I’ve never experienced such pain. Any time I stand up, my rib in the front start vibrating and the pain is insufferable. 😢
Here we are a month or so later and I seem to be cured! Im not sure if it was time or some of the things I learned on UA-cam. I took the protoeolytic enzymes that this doctor recommended, I drank bone broth as he advised, I drank 3-4 quarts of water a day, I took glucosamine chondroitan as he recommended, and I was in bed for almost three months. Thank goodness I didn’t have to get the shots or surgery which was the next step.
@@LKaramazov So you did bed rest??? I have been in pain for 8 months and off work and everything has failed for me. I am considering laying down in bed and never getting up
@@christoole6820 I saw a video that talked about protoelytic enzymes that could heal the disc. And I took bone broth. I don’t know if the helped or if it was just time. It’s hard to believe what I went through now that I’m better. I had a herniated disc that was pinching a nerve. The timing of your post is scary because I felt a twinge there today. If this happens again, oh God! There was also a chiropractic technique called the Cox technique. I don’t know if it helped, but I liked the idea of it. I hear you. No one should have to suffer like you’re suffering! I pray you get better soon!
Hi could you please show some exercise which could help to relief this mid back pain and strength the muscle around that area ? Thank you
Hey Dr.Mandell, at 18yrs old 2 years ago I believe to have herniated a thoracic disc in the region around T-7. It was do to an accident at the gym; where I hyperextended myself with a load over top causing great compression. The following days after I had radiating nerve pain/itch runing to my legs arms, also unbearable numbness right around the T-7 region, and swelling flared up near T-7 area.
As time went on it worsened, so i decided to see a PT and started increasing mobility, fixing imbalance's, learning exercises to improve and treat my injury. My PT also preformed pistol manipulation causing a great relief, almost like it was cured in a sense. Though my PT was not sure about what type of injury i had, but he thought it to be a vertabrea fracture. So as the years went on and i got a bit better to were it was bearable. I was determined to recover after PT, so I started going back to the gym exercising, working on my transverse abdominis, mobility, stretches and so on. Things were looking good, pain was miniscule and healing process was slow. Its been 2yrs and i still have symptoms flare up.
So My question for you Dr is if any one of the symptoms above i listed a result of a disc hernation or of a compression fracture? because when I apply pressure around the t-7 vertabrea I seem to get a brused feeling and sharp pains right on the vertabrea. Also can i 100% recover from this injury to continue living a active and pain free life? Thanks for your time Dr, God bless!
How are you feeling now?
I did have thoracic surgery. I had 5 thoracic discs fused because they were literally crumbling. The fusion failed and I am left with Intractable pain that makes me not want to live. I am now on opiods and have found some relief but the pain continues and wraps all the way around to my sternum. It is really hard to find information on this. I will look into chiropractic and see if they can add it to my other treatments which include physical therapy, mental health, and several alternative treatments that I am always open too. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Thank you so much for the info:)
Man do I feel ya....I've got a flare up.....11 more weeks of horrific pain
Kml Art how are you feeling now after chiropractic
Sorry
I really appreciate you and needed to hear this today.
Exactly and well said & Suffering. When did cat and dog strech pain hits very hard and unable to move. So guys dont ever try cat streches. Rightly said have belly. Thanks for suggestions. Any good exercises please.
You're gonna get through this...
Sir my T 12 is fractured by compression coz of road accident.and tumbs up for your brilliant works
So glad I watched this has made me feel better about this
Just wanted to share this and say thanks for your help.
so rich in helpful indications! thank you so much
so uplifting indeed! it makes one feel good. blessings
The core brace is most important Doctor can we discuss this ❤❤❤
This is a great video. Thank you!
I have a pretty bad bulging disc at t2 and another one at t8. I've been watching your videos for a while and they're helpful. Do a lot of my own research but can't seem to find a good exercise to do for the t2 herniation. Trigger point therapy and painkillers is the only thing that helps but I'm still trying to do anything I can to recover from this since its been 9 years and I'm 27 now. My doctors haven't been very helpful in the information department. It's such a rare condition that it's hard to find useful information about recovery
I doubt that the condition is stemming only from the T2 bulging disc. Most likely it is a tribute to forward head posture her and other compensatory muscles.
@@motivationaldoc great help doc.
😂😂😂😂😂
How are you now ?
@@mahsun742 Over time, I finally learned how to manage my physical conditions. And Dr Mandell was right about the forward head posture. Even now, if I stay in a position like that for any length of time, I feel it in my neck, shoulders and upper/mid back. I have to stretch and do yoga a lot throughout the day to maintain it. I still work in warehouses and there are lots of things that aggravate my conditions, however good posture and frequent stretching helps a lot. I dont over do anything and I dont twist my back when doing anything. Moving the wrong way is guaranteed to injure you. And moving and lifting the wrong way causes micro traumas that you dont notice until you do something one too many times and then you feel the injury. It's important to know the difference between nerve pain and when you've pulled something in your back because you need to know when to rest and take it easy and when to stretch. It's all a balancing act. I still have issues but luckily most days I am ok and able bodied. I'm 33 now, have been living with these issues since I was 18. I'm doing better now with it than ever. And no longer on pain killers. I dont even take aspirin or ibuprofen. Years ago when I commented on this video, I never thought I would've came this far. And still to this day, no doctor or chiropractor that I've went to see in person has never given me any advice on managing my conditions. It was all my own research and people like Dr Mandell putting out helpful youtube videos. I dont just have the disc herniations and nerve damage. All my joints are messed up from manufacturing and warehouse work over the years. After a while, I realized a lot of my joint problems are because the muscles are tight. So when my low back and knees hurt, it's time to stretch the glutes, calves, and quadriceps. Then my legs feel light as a feather again and no knee pain or low back pain. Once I understood anatomy, how muscles work with each other, and the difference between nerve pain and muscle pain, that was the key to knowing what stretches to do to help any particular issue I was having. Now I just have a constant daily routine of things I do that helps me stay on top of it. I really had to educate myself and listen to what my body is telling me in order to get through this. At one point even the stretches didnt work because I was over doing that and further injuring myself. Always know the limits of your body. Thats the key to not over doing things.
Hello Dr Mandell I'm sure I have this condition and it gets worse if I over extent my spine or flex my neck to much. The pain radiates around to my ribs and is like a stabbing pain. Could it be that these movements compress the vertebrae on the outer part forcing a bulge to push on a nerve? I had an MRI scan that showed nothing but it was in a period without pain. Thank you.
See a Chiropractor, could be nerve involvement where it exits
Even I am going through the same. Stabbing pain at my T4 then it comes towards my chest. Feels like I'm having a heart attack.😢
@@zeeshansiddiqui658Me too, how are you now. Pls help us if you found any solution. Thanks
Thx so much. very good advise.
If you have bulges or protrusions...it is hard to work your core
I was a trainer, hard driven, and I cannot push myself or I'm Out Of Commission For Days.
thank you sir for your advice sir it is making me difficult to breathe through chest and causing pain in middle of chest what to do
Same bro
Same
@@maheshwaran7429Me too, how are you now. Pls help us if you found any solution. Thanks
I have a thoracic herniated disc but it effects my right leg only, I cannot walk without a cane or walker. I'm only 60 and have had this for a year now, no pain. My Neurologist does not want surgery and tells me to retrain my brain to walk. Will it get better on it's own? I'm in great shape and work out twice a day. Thank you!
Thank you very much great video.
That was really helpful so a big thank you. Ian.
Hi, I've had symptoms of excruciating radiating pain to the sternum for over 2.5 years. I am currently 19 years old and used to swim 20 hours a week so was physically fit, I was misdiagnosed for nearly 2 years as having costochondritis. I underwent 3 months NHS physio, had chest x rays, MRI and ECG and everything came back clear. I then had 4 months chiropractor and the pain was still there. A year ago a began suffering from sciatica and for the last 6 month I have been seeing a sports therapist that has diagnosed two herniated disks in the thoracic spine, she uses ultra sound therapy and myofacial release and I do exercises at home. However, I have just tried to gently get back into exercise (30 mins gentle swim) and I am still in excruciating pain. I have put on a massive amount of weight and lost a lot of muscle since the onset of pain and after so long of being in pain I am now seriously considering surgery, what would you suggest? Is there anything else I can do to relieve the pain?
How are you doing bro? hope youre better now
Don’t swim, especially free style. Swimming caused my Thoracic radiculopathy pain.
My dr says i have disc degeneration in thoracic region. Ive have extreme pain in ribs, rib cage, i cant move much, i have have painful spasms. He gave me muscle relaxer, ordered no
exercise, but to walk. I cant lift or bend without spasms.
Do you have leg pain!
Me too, how are you now. Pls help us if you found any solution. Thanks
@@aliyoussef5199Me too, how are you now. Pls help us if you found any solution. Thanks
Great video's and information. We'll let our NFL guys know about these video's... very helpful...Thanks Doc your the best!
Love u my bro
Great videos Doctor Mandell ... I have a question .. I have problem with my right schoulder and with the right side of my upper back .. if i look in the mirror I see that my bone of that area is kind of directed outwards ... so i mean my both shoulders are not equal ... what can I do ? could you please do a video about this topic ? Please help me
Same. Strengthen your back and rotator cuff muscles. Look up winging shoulder exercises.
I used to do heavy squats with improper form and I think I herniated a disc in my thoracic spine. I’ve had pain under left rib cage for about 5 years, recently I went to chiropractor to fix it and finally got the back to crack right behind the rib cage now the pain is more intense in my back and radiating to my upper stomach/ lower ribs. If I foam roll and crack the spot on my back the pain goes away for about an hour then it comes back.
Schmorl hernias at T10, loss of muscles. Exercises or surgery ?
Hey doc, I herniated a disc in my thoracic spine at the T7-8 level a year and a half ago. it's gotten better, but never back to normal. Honestly, do you think a DRX-9000 would work for a thoracic spine herniation at the T7-8 level?
DAmn, i have that now so it's bad to hear that it never got back to normal
Thomas Cameron how you doing
@@altargull Did you ever get back to normal? In the same situation at about 6 months post injury..
I have a T8-T9 disk bulge. Did anyone get any improvement with time?
T7-8, the same... also abdomen pain, .. horror
Hello sir : I injured my upper back deadlifting three months ago when i went to the doctor they gave me oral steroids for inflammation and muscle relaxant. I have given three months break from lifting and last week when I tried to do even cardio any exercise my upper back start to get spasm and the pain travel around my ribs and gave me bad headache. The only thing i can do is lay down for hours to get back to normal. I have no mri since i dont have insurance and am an international student here. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks
Naved Khazi just dont do deadlifting it’s gonna take more than that to heal i have one year with upper back pain because i kept doing shoulders and chest when i start waking up without pain i’ll know i started healing
Thank you so much doc!
The MRI says all of my thoracic is herniated. Bulges. The lumbar 3 out of 5 discs bulging as well. Due to trauma. I have been diagnosed multi level degenerative discs as well.
I expected this video to actually show me some "Treatment and Exercises" not to just vaguely describe them.
Exercises and treatments: hanging on a bar, putting ice, professional massage, strengthen core, back extension on a ball, kick backs, stretching the hamstring muscles, stretching the hip flexors, suck in the belly button. Hope you are healthy now a year after your comment.
Hello sir, I m from India
I have two herniated disc at D11 D12, and D12 L1 mostly compress is in D12 L1 .. I want to ask you,
Can the disc heal or not (exercise, physiotherapy,etc) ????
Hi Dr.
I have been diagnosed with a large T9-T10 herniated disc that is touching my spinal cord. I do get mild pain in the area as well as pain that wraps around my ribs. However, most of my pain is approximately 5 vertebras above the herniation. There is nothing significant in my thoracic area other than the T9-T10 herniation. How is this possible? It is my understanding that pain would travel to the side or down and not up. Please explain. Thank you
Same here. I have a small T8-T9 disk bulge. I do have some pain in that area but more intense pain is in the upper back. Did you ever get any answers? Did you ever find relief from the pain?
@@gayanekrikorova5849Same here! It’s going upwards rather then downwards. Doctors have injected me and burned the nerves but I’m still in so much pain after 8 months smh. Have you done anything to remove the pain?
As far as I know, pain can be referred. Lower thoracic issues can refer all the way up to the cervical area.
i like ur video, but time is not healing me. i have been in pain for 10 years and seen at least 25 doctors, and done several therapies, they even thought i had fibromyalgia, but the last doctor i saw was a spine doctor and he thinks it could be a herniated disc, now that i am doing my research it can definitely be, but at the same time makes wonder, why therapies and antiimflamtories did not fix it? i possibly have herniated disc in thoracic spine and neck because i have really bad left arm pain and horrible back pain. I can even tell which disc is bad cuz i cant even touch it. What is your advice?
I have a 2mm bulging disk at T8-T9. I was pushed on my back and now 3 months later I see no improvement. Has anyone had experience with finding relief? Getting back to normal? Or is this a life sentence?
I have a problem with excruciating pain from no injury, and I’m wondering the same thing. Is my life over? Did you get better?
Did you ever get better? I have same issues xx
I have 6 thoracic herniation and from t1 to t12 the are either herniated or bulging, since 2010 I have had burning radiating pain all around my mid section. Numbness and aching pain. I also experience extremly painfull jolts of pain when moving arms, bending, and twisting at times. Can't sit for prolonged periods or stand. Tge burning is horroble. Being under pain management for 11 years. The only thing that has helped are ablation treatments. My life is basically destroyed. Are there any videos that you can do to help someone like me. I can send you my MRI.
Maybe try the spine worx tool. I just bought one and it’s been helping
Bles you dr. Mendell for help
thenk you.
hello doctor, i have upper back pains for almost 4 years now and i recently had an MRI, which showed T8, T9 disc herniation and muscle dystrophy. the problem is i am in a foreign country and the language is the main issue that i cant really take the treatment or healing process any further apart from massage.... the pain is very severe that i cant stand or sit for more than 20 min, what do you suggest i do that can help? please reply, i really need this.
Me too, how are you now. Pls help us if you found any solution. Thanks
Thanks Doc. Awesome video,I already had L4 L5 S1 fusions I don’t want anymore,middle back is hurting🙏
The surgeries didn’t work?
@@LKaramazov the first one was done incorrectly,I found out about it when my L4 started hurting plus I had a cyst on the side of it, I was highly recommended to a surgeon in Clearwater that saw the mistake that was made,he went ahead and fixed the problem and removed the old hardware that was placed incorrectly and gave me a new lease on my life, I can’t thank him enough,unfortunately he retired last year!
@@SuperThunder911 what a nightmare. Many of These doctors are such quacks! I’m glad you got a good one, but I’ve heard soooo many stories of surgeons that botched the surgeries, it’s almost like they mess up on purpose. I got my thoracic hernia at the beginning or April and the pain goes from my back along my ribs to my sternum. I couldn’t even walk or sit. Only the past two weeks has the pain subsided , with. No help from anyone in the medical profession, but i still can’t work,and am in bed most of the day. They prescribed meloxicam, but when I saw the risks I said “ forget it” next they wanna give me shots,, and possibly surgery. I’m hoping it just gets better on its own. Thanks for the warning.
You are great sir😊
I used to sleep on hard surface , mostly right side , i felt pain in mid back , then thread like pain in thigh muscle , then to the toe.
I can play cricket , footlball, volleyball with no pain
But still i feels pain in midback & so on in sitting position
So please suggest me what can i do to get rid of it .
Same :( Found anything?
so useful sir
hi Dr mendall
i am a physical therapist, i have a patient with t7 to t11 disc herniations, has radiating pain down the ribs and upto the sternuma nd epigastric areas , mostly on left side.
what manual techniques can use with him, although when i do deep massage and MFR it works for 2 hours only and the pain returns back , and which exercises should i concentrate on other than core stabilisation, thanks alot in advance
Long axis traction can be helpful. Although with specific types of tables it is much easier to perform. Inversion therapy can also be helpful for him. Yes, poor is great. Although strength in the glutes may be a big asset for him as well. Stretching the quadratus lumborum and hip flexors would also be helpful in most cases.
That should be core
+motivationaldoc how can i perform long axis traction? can it manually done ? if yes, can u post a video or a link to it ? the patient is 91kg , and has atrial fibrillation, and both SI joint pain, do you think inversion table would be a good option ? please reply
+motivationaldoc and i know how to do hip axial distraction , is it the same ?
We have certain types of distraction tables that actually would do that. Although the only thing I would think of is putting something soft under him flexing his thoracic spine while laying prone. And then using your hands and distracting. One hand would go superior and other inferior. With his health history inversion would not be recommended.
doc... i only have massive pain around t10-t11 and t3-4 also the pain goes to the left shoulder, around the shoulder blade... someties is pain sometimes it goes numb
Hello Dr,
I'm athletic woman, I had pain in the middle of my back two month ago, and MRI showed that I have Thoracic Herniated Disc. The last month I wore neck brace to reduce my back and neck movements as my doctor recommended. I really felt good. However, I toke off the brace this month and I start doing exercises every day for the herniated disc, but the pain start again and I guess it getting worse. I really take care of my back pain like the most important thing in my life. My question is: do the usual movements such as straight my back while setting could increases the problem?
Usually forward head and pronated/forward shoulders will. Most herniations in Thoracic are not symptomatic
What is that neck brace called ? What does it look like?
Thank you for the important info dr could you do a proper vdo as to how to strengthen the core like you demonstrate it for us in a vdo
Hello sir, what are the chiropractic maneuvers to release the mid dorsal vertebrae by compression due to lifting weights?, thank you.
So my herniated disk is between the top lumbar and bottom thoracic disk. Do I do thoracic exercises, or lumbar exercises for that point? I have been doing months of lumbar exercises for an L4 herniated disk but it has done nothing for the bottom most thoracic hernia.
hi doc. so i have a cervical disc herniation on the c6-C7 level, thoraccic spine herniated disc T8 T9 and degeneration of the last three lumbar vertebrae. im 23 and can attribute the cervical and thoraccic herniations to forward head posture and muscle imbalances (very right hand dominant) i used to lift weights mountainbike do mma and was a volunteer firefighter for a few years and never had any problems until i started college on the otherside of the world and began a sedentary lifestyle. now my question is what could my disc ddgeneration be from and what can i do to help it? ive began walking an hour a day keeping bettee posture and watching your videos i would apreciate any comments from your part
Maintaining exercise and good posture is most important. Our bodies do pay a price for the abuse we put on them. That's good you are aware and now you have to make a commitment to take care of it by doing the right things.
thanks doc you're the man!
I've been having pain in my thoracic spine just at bra strap level and when this happens I get acid reflux I've never had reflux before and when I ice my back the reflux subsides can this happen?
me too
Same
Same. Did any of you recover or find any relief?
I have a herniated disc at T5 -T6. Tremendous pain. Only lessened by steroidal injections.
Can you do some kind of exercises? It seems I have it too..just going for test results. Pain doesn't scare me, sudden weakness, heart jumping and that that I cant go up the stairs normally scares me. It happens latelly if I do something physically hard.
Same :( but mines t6-7. Has yours improved at all since your comment?
Has anyone had any improvement? I’m terrified my T8-T9 disk bulge will never get better.
@@gayanekrikorova5849did yours improve ? X
Great video! Do you have suggestions on sleeping positions? I have a herniated disk in the cervical C6/C7 as well as a T4-9 and a bulge 12-L1. I am not having any pain in my rib cage etc. and believe it's occurred based on the type of work I do...Reiki practitioner - holding hand/arm positions while bent over a bit.
How are you doing ?
Hi doc i was diagnose of schwannoma at T8,T9,before i can hardly walk or move my leg now i can step my leg with assist of my family..can meninggioma cure without surgery?
Hey Dr, I have numerous Herniated Discs in the Thoracic region along with mild to severe cord compression. I was sitting at a VERY un ergonomically office desk and twisted to my right to put papers in the trash while someone walked by and leaned on my chair causing it to spin resulting in a painful loud crackling noise like a drinking stray in my entire thoracic region followed by immediate tightness ever since. MRIs have showed Herniation's of T2,3,4,6,7, 10, 11,12 etc with T-11 & T-12 having the most damage with visible cord compression and Im always feeling and having a grinding and popping in the area. What type of Dr or treatment would be best for this? PT never worked and Injections only worked for a short time. (Workers Comp Injury) so i been stuck running around from different drs etc and trying to just get better. Injury was from 2012
How are you now ?
@@mahsun742sende de mi sırt fıtığı var
Hello Dr. Great uplifting advice.
Had a question MRI came out with 2mm central disk protrusion/ annular fissure at t-7-8 indents the anterior cord surface. Is it possible to heal completely?
How is your back doing these days? Did it ever heal back to normal?
How are you doing now? Did you ever heal?
Thank you sir! I do feel a bit better, knowing physical therapy and correct daily habits. Will help, I was just diagnosed yesturday with the t8and t9 pushing against the nerve, and I am freaking out. I'm very active. And the sound of not being able to do anything anymore is frightening!! Looking forward to watching more videos of yours
Do you have leg pain from t8 and t9?
Hey man, I just diagnosed yesterfat. Were you able to recover
Did you recover??
Is it possible to have these issue cause coldness up to back of neck to the middle back and kind of behind the arms. I fell to my knees and then caught my self on for arm. Since then 2 weeks ago I have been having varying degrees of chills in those areas since
I experienced problems with perinal area (spasm, loss of sensation) at first. I was diagnosed with t11/12 disc herniation - mri suggests that it is the reason as it slightly indirectly puts pressure on spinal cord. Neurosurgeon and many other doctors as well as physiotherapists suggest that it is not the reason. After some time the symptoms involved strange feeling in legs but strength is preserved. Only muscles are stiff and flexed - is it possible to have such a thing from thoracic disc herniation on that level or is it really some cause of cointunuous anxiety??
Stem cell therapy is the best treatment for this problem I guess.
Hello Dr mandell I have a T12 T11 disc bulge and it's causing me weakness in my right leg and a huge lack of blance and walking around starts to be come very hard for long distances and sometimes I have bladder problems
dr alan mandell is necessary to do some kind of exercise for the development the muscles of the neck if i dont want to have a herniated disc in that area in the future?
Good postural balance and smart ergonomics. A strong core is very helpful.
thank you for your suggestions i have this problem
Hope you can gain some insight from this video.
Hi! I was wondering, I have an herniated disc in T3-T4 and I was considering doing the inversion table, but I wonder, how long should I hang ? and just I go gradually?
Did you get a chance to try the inversion table yet? Did it help?
Are you better I have the same herniation?? X
I have a t7-t8 disc herniation with dehydration in my disc space. I’ve had it over 5 years and i have never been asymptomatic. I am in tremendous pain everyday. My back is always very tight and severe inflammation. My inversion table doesn’t work for me, i think because i get light headed. I have started taking turmeric. I’m at my wits end. I literally cry at times because I feel like my pain will never go away.
For disc dehydration i believe acupuncture is the best treatment.
MiloBaBy09 hey milobaby09, I have a t7-t8 bulge/herniation too. A few years back I needed a fusion at t12-L1, and because I’m unable to bend normally there, it has worn down my spine at t7-t8. It’s gotten progressively worse since my fusion, and I’m at year 4 now.
I’m forced to spend 90% of my day laying flat on my back on the floor. Any standing of sitting immediately activates it, and if I’m up long enough, it reaches 10/10 pain.
PT, and injections have had to affect. I’m trying a stem cell injection into the disc next week. Maybe that will help heal the area a bit.
If anyone has any suggestions, I’d really appreciate it!!! Ty!!
Same issue witb me, though over many months, my body is healing.
Finding a good chiropractor would be one thought. One helped my back pain.
Epidural steroid injections, strong muscle relaxers would be helpful. If your doctors aren't helping you, I'd go to the ER. You shouldn't suffer in severe pain.
Hello. Can you tell me how are you now?
Has anyone had any improvement?
It's very strange how when I try to relax every muscle in my body I suddenly get the muscles in the back of my neck pulling really hard uncontrollably and then when I stop relaxing the pulling becomes less intense. I've been to doctors but they don't see anything wrong. They tell me to just do stretches and strengthening exercises. I wonder what it could be. It's very hard to sit or stand comfortably, I also get pain in my midback and in the neck, moreso in the mid back or upper midback.
Watch your ergonomics like forward head posture and rounded shoulders. Go through the many videos I have here on my channel on postural correction.
Hi I just saw your comment, it feels like we have the same/similar symptoms. Just wondering if you manage to improve your pain. Feel free to check my previous comment to get the issues I'm facing. All the best!
Really sorry to hear you're also going through this. I haven't fully recovered but the symptoms have improved slightly, not much though. I just keep doing the exercises and stretches I'm learning about from this channel, I don't think there's a more thorough channel on this subject so at least we're lucky to have this resource. You can learn a lot here. Also, what helps me endure is going through a list of things to be grateful for every day as often as possible, it does wonders to put things in perspective and alleviate the frustration somewhat. Have you been to a doctor yet? The doctors I've seen are so inept :-/
I am doing the same, the one with towel behind my neck seems to make me feel better, I also try to use my abdominal muscles more often and putt the pressure there whatever I do. No I haven't seen a doc yet, If the Doc that made this awesome channel was in my town I would have gone straight away!!! Hope you get better and fully recovered mate.
Hi. After reading your post, I think I share your symptoms as well. It's been quite a long time that I've dealt with this constant pain / spasming in the back and shoulder area. I've been to physical therapy, chiropractic, neurology and all sorts of different doctors, and nobody has been able to identify it. Have you had any progress with these videos?
I had a compression fracture in my back T8 and protruding discs. It flares up if I lift anything over 20lbs. It has not effected my legs at all. I am very active and have good posture with a background in dance and fitness. This is very frustrating for me because I own and show horses and I still waterski at the age of 64. I have seen alot of commercial about the laser spin institute, would this be worth looking into. I hate to be sidelined and grow fat and old!
Mine is T8-9 it's been going on for nearly 4 years now and each passing year it's getting worse, lost health insurance and cannot get proper care for this, I am miserable
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I got to 4 minutes of this video before I just couldn't watch it anymore. he's reciting everything that is wrong about medicine. he spends the first 3 minutes telling you how everyone is more often going to have herniations in their cervical and lumbar spine. and then he says it again. and then he says it again. by this time I'm aggravated because if I had a cervical or lumbar herniation I wouldn't be here watching this video.
number two then he goes on to recite the statistics of how most herniations are in the lower thoracic.yes everybody knows if you look it up that's what you're going to see but what if that still isn't you.
if you're like me and you have a t1 t2 herniation and your dermatome has lost sensory.. and between your shoulder blades aches as if you've been hit with a bat on and off all day..well first off he doesn't even discuss upper thoracic back . then here's the one I love plenty of people have herniated discs and don't have any pain. if I were running the country I would ban statements like this. if any of that statement at all is true then there's a physical scientific explanation.. like the herniation they have missed the nerve.. or they have genetically more space in their foramen than you... but you notice this guy doesn't, the doctor you see won't, and a million.5 articles written on this subject will never explain that it's a fluke when someone doesn't have pain...and if you're fine one day and the next day you can't feel half your body and you have a herniated disc that would affect that half of the body these guys should be thrown into jail for saying it's not related and they...yet the doctors have been pulling these shenanigans for a long time on people sending them in circles.. and causing millions of people to suffer
hi doc. i broke T2 over 10yrs ago but now T2 is depressed ..looks to be pushing t1 and t3 and t4 out. walking seems often difficult as the muscles tighten in my back due to the misaligned bone... any ideas on ways to get the bone back up? ive been told how lucky i am i can still walk. ive been pressing into the bone but only just found out it was broken and pressing it ,ive been advised ,will push it further in and lead to paralysis. xrays and 2 mri scans didnt reveal this..i found out through an acupuncturist and also from a massage therapist. i want to fix this. thankyou for any help
Doctor I have a weird one...I had numbness for some months in my right side of my body legs and arms but mainly one side. Brain scans revealed nothing was sent home. Have pain under right shoulder blade and have always had bad posture. Am convinced it's something around my shoulder blade or upper back region. Have you ever heard of anything like this?
Exact same thing. Found anything?
You are great😊
I have 3 thoracic disc in my upper middle back . I'm scared
Awesome video! Theres almost zero info on thoracic herniations online. One question sir - im 6 months post injury. I havent had much leg pain, but has been mostly localized in mid right back after throwing a guy over my back in jiu jitsu. Not sure if i bulged or herniated the disc. My back is 90% better, but im still not working out with weights. Is this normal to take this long to heal? My pain has been a 4 at the highest, but now is a 2. But it still affects my life, as i cant work out with weights. Ive read it could take 1-2 years to fully heal, is this correct?
It's a very hard question to answer because of the fact I don't know the evaluation of any orthopedic or neurological findings. Moist heat would be good and yes it can take quite a while of time to fully recover.
You didn't perform the throw correctly ! :) I feel your pain my brother. Been there, done that. Four spinal surgeries. Discs get very little blood flow so the healing process is extremely slow. You should see a physical therapist for exercises to help your core and potentially move the disc back into place. Mckenzie exercises and Cat/camel stretch are good. Also, stretch your hip flexor---- a lot ! Core exercises and prone (hands and knees) alternating one arm/opposite leg making sure you keep your hips stable, no rotating.. Good luck !
Hey doc, I have a herniated disc in the t8-t9 area. Also bulges in L4-L5. I am due to undergo surgery end of next month. The procedure will be a fusion of the t8-t9 vertibre & also a microdiscectomy at the L4-L5 level. Does having both procedures pose any risks & do u think it's the right choice to make? I have been doin physio for 6 months & I haven't seen improvement in neither my lower or mid back. I have started to experience pain when breathing occasionally, not sure if that's indicating things are getting worst as I haven't been having that sensation till now. I am very nervous as i am told it's a rare & risky surgery, plus I can't seem to find much info which causes me to think it really is rare & is that much more concerning. If you can give me any kind of perspective it would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.
hi, did you have the surgery?
I have a herniated disc at T7-T8 flattening the ventral cord that is causing muscle spasms, numbness, radiating pain that is absolutely unbearable. Doctors are not helping and just brushing my symptoms off. I'm afraid I will have permanent nerve and spinal cord damage. It's sad to see doctors don't listen to symptoms.
me too, can I email you?
Maja
Any improvement?
yes with massage and laser therapy..but I'm literaly afraid to go back to work.. because it's unpredictable..
can we be in touch by mail or somehow?
What’s laser therapy? How long have you suffered?
Can thoracic disc cause difficulty of breathing?
In my case it does on and off depending on the level of inflammation and how angry the nerves are that are affected because it wraps around my entire ribcage into the front and the pain worsens with deep breaths so then I start to feel panicky because I can't breathe and the cycle continues, my disc bulge is at T8-9 level 😩😩
I need help to Diogenes this problem
I have pain in middle thoracic region while bending in siting position in symptoms like
1- pain in upper abdomen at right side while sitting long time without support also pain in upper back side in rib cage at right side
2-Feel like pain of strech nerve in thoracic region while bending.
3- numbness in right hand while sleeping or straighting hand
4- to reduce pain or overcome pain i used lay down on bed
i am suffering this pain last 4 years no one can Diogenes this pain
anyone hear who can help me...?
Imran Karagathra I have a t7-t8 bulge/herniation too. A few years back I needed a fusion at t12-L1, and because I’m unable to bend normally there, it has worn down my spine at t7-t8. It’s gotten progressively worse since my fusion, and I’m at year 4 now.
Pain is located at t7-t8 on back area, around my lower ribs, and on my sternum at nipple level (+or-1 inch)
I’m forced to spend 90% of my day laying flat on my back on the floor. Any standing of sitting immediately activates it, and if I’m up long enough, it reaches 10/10 pain.
PT, and injections have had to affect. I’m trying a stem cell injection into the disc next week. Maybe that will help heal the area a bit.
If anyone has any suggestions, I’d really appreciate it!!! Ty!!
In 2015 I fell through a ceiling I had a heat stroke and my back got caught on the beams I did a hyper extension traumatic injury... I pinched my sciatica nerve and herniated 2 disc one in my theroacic spine and one in my lumbar... I try to sit it’s extremely painful and then I drag my right leg around barely able to get around someone please give me tips on how to exercise to relieve pain😐 I’m on strong pain medication and it only goes so far I need help reliving pain right now I’m doing hot showers they help a lot and laying around doing stretches I’m in so much pain please any advice is greatly appreciated
Mine is T12 L1
Obviously you have NEVER had thoracic extrusions.
I have a bulging disc at T3/T4. Mri confirmed 6 weeks after the damage done.
A chiropractic adjustment with a new chiropractor caused the damage.
It's been hurting for three months.
I am on pain meds for another issue and I still feel the pain. Hurts too breathe at times. Romboids are knotted now.
Do you have any suggestions?
Most of everything i read is for lumbar or cervical. If my pain medication is not helping this I might need to strengthen my back.
I have fibromyalgia. Low impact exercises.
Hannah , your thoracic herniated discs cause leg pain?
Any improvement yet?
Omg I have the Same herniation! Did it get better? Your the only one in this area I’ve seen! Please reply xx
DR, How can I contact you?
VERY POOR SET OF EXCERICES.
Hi Doc,
I made a sudden movement while sitting 5 months ago and ever since I feel numbness(usually when I bend) in my right midback side only.
However 2 months ago I started feeling neck pain as well. It's stoping me for doing anything and I miss my workouts. Don't know what to do...
T4 and T5 😣🤯😰😱
Did it get better?