I'd like to argue Thunder displays plenty of Nightfury traits due to Nightfury genes being codominant when mixed with a Lightfury, allowing them to be present throughout the bloodlines even if Toothless's kids bred with pure Lightfuries, they'd still come out as Night Lights
And even if toothless’s genes were lost throughout breeding w the pure light furies, there are cases in real life species where a gene bred out of an animal was brought back years later. Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark. Therefore, the gene that Toothless carried, dark scales, would soon adapt and become stronger as the Furies started evolving to fit their habitat
@@ayanamcr.7303 "Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark." Light furies can become invisible tho and I guess there were no predators to hide from in the hidden world
I'd like to believe that Thunder is combination of Nightlight and Desert Wrath for its matte scales and other pointy body features such as the tail wings and upper wings.
It seems there might have been some interbreeding between the dragon species over the years. The Mist Twister's body appears to have elements of the Hideous Zippleback, but the heads resemble a Monstrous Nightmare's.
@@NexusGamer507 Yes but the shapes are completely different from each other... i think its closer to a Hobbelgrunt, not only for the body shape, but also for the shyness
@@giulf3der957 well don't forget that the Dramillion Titan can turn invisible/camouflage too because Dramillions are related to Changewings even though they don't look like it
The mimic dragons ability for feathers may come from dramilons they were a dragon introduced in race to the edge they could mimic dragon fire and dragons i think
I'm thinking the nightlight may have breed with a skrill dragon(a different one from from the series) or something as who's to say that dragons of different races(types or whatever you would call it) of dragon can't mate with each other?
So, Wu & Wei are basically HyoRyu and EnRyu from GaoGaiGar? And also, my favorite of these new Dragons, apart from Wu & Wei, has gotta be Feathers. Such a pretty design, and some sweet abilities!
The new designs emanate the old gang a lot i think. There's the night fury type, the two-headed type, the boulder class poster boy, and a female dragon with bright colours and a bunch of extra features at the back of her head. Ie. A new Toothless, Barf & Belch, Meatlug and Stormfly. And i guess you could argue that Hookfang is present in the way Wu and Wei's heads look.
Am I the only one who's thinking that thunder actually might be crossed with something else... I mean you can definitely see the nightlight in him. Especially on the coloration and similar shape to his ancestors but something about how he looks and how his Whole lightning thing works Kinda makes me think that hes crossed with some sort of other dragon besides other nightlights.... Of course that also could be just an evolution thing since it has been 1300 years. I don't know ...it is more of just a guess Besides the change of shape in his body his ears and a bit of his wings he also has an extra tail tailfin? Like I said he just looks like he has more than just nightlight mixed with him. Though personally without a anothat nightlight around that time to compare him too it's hard to say whether it's an Evolution thing or not 🤔
YEAH! HOW CAN HE STILL BE BLACK AND WHITE AFTER 1,300 YEARS!! IF THERE ARE NO MORE NIGHT FURIES AND ONLY LIGHT FURIES, THE ORIGONAL NIGHT LIGHTS HAD TO MATE WITH LIGHT FURIES AND SO DOES THEIR CHILDERN, GRANDCHILDEN ETC. BUT THE BLACK PART WOULD BE ALL GONE AFETR BREED SO MANY TIMES WITH LIGHT FURIES! THEY SHOULD BE ALL WHITE! AND THE TAIL FIN DOSENT EVEN RESSEMBLE A NIGHT FURY OR LIGHT FURY!
I was thinking that Thunder may have some Sandwraith in him, with the extra fin and all, since sandwraiths seem like a really similar species, which would allow for cross breeding.
@@NUBIANNAVY I mean, there are cases in real life species where a gene bred out of an animal was brought back years later. Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark. Therefore, the gene that Toothless carried, dark scales, would soon adapt and become stronger as the Furies started evolving to fit their habitat.
I’m excited for this series even tho I didn’t like how it was set in the future but now as I watch the trailer more it’s like give this a chance I use to dislike the looks of the dragons now I think there cool honestly
@@paleoguy2165 You say it as if Resty were a weirdo for liking the show but rather you are the weirdo for not accepting that people like a show that you don't like, there will be people who don't like the show but there are also people who like it and just because of that they can't be called weirdos or they aren't true fans of HTTYD because of that, because saying things like that, like I said, only makes you a weird clown.
No weaknesses, Toothless's missing tailfin! Everyone knows that with dragons it's the wings and the tails you really want to go for. If it can't fly, it can't get away. Gobber said it best; a downed dragon is a dead dragon. Having said that, though, I don't believe that Thunder is a result of inbreeding. I personally think that there may have been other Night Furies out there other than Toothless, and they may have escaped to other hidden worlds, because there's no way that there was only one hidden world. And when they grew up, Toothless's kids likely bred with other Light Furies while one of his kids, possibly Dart who is the only female of the trio, may have come across another Night Fury. And the three of them would then go on to have little Night Light babies of their own. Over time, the Night Lights' genetic structure may have adapted and changed as the generations passed and would have made the Night Lights into their own subspecies of the Night Fury and Light Fury dragons, thus leading to these new adaptations that we see in Thunder, such as his folding tail spade with a dorsal fin, and their more concave body structure that gives them a more prominent chest and a more sunken appearance in their mid-section. They may have also perfected the dormant Lightning Generation ability that Toothless possessed, as people believe that Night Furies and the Skrill share a common evolutionary ancestor like the Boneknapper and the Armorwing dragons.
extreme curiosity could easily be a weakness, putting yourself into dangerous situations, not leaving when you know you should, biting off more than you can chew all because you want to know what will happen think of that guy from summer camp who would talk about how he'd eat anything for five bucks and everyone and his mother knew it wasnt about the money he was just daft.
I'd like to argue that before they named an orca dragon THUNDER, I already done that in 2019-20 and that was in relation to the VANCOUVER CANUCKS ORCA LOGO even the NHL knows that very well during the BUBBLE GAMES. Even have a mash up song of Imagine Dragons' THUNDER and Katy Perry's ROAR called ROARING THUNDER in UA-cam. Someone made ROAR song video with TOOTLESS and HICCUP and maybe for TOM and THUNDER it will be the mash up of ROAR/THUNDER (Katy Perry/ Imagine Dragons) by DJ Flapjack in UA-cam.
What I don't understand about this series is this "Night-Light Tribe" that was mentioned. The only reason the Night-Light species even came into existence is because Toothless was the last Night Fury to have ever existed, and the closest living relative of the Night Fury species were the Light Fury (sub?)species and, dragons being animals with the drive to continue their species, mated, and had (adorable) hybrid babies. Hybrids between different (though related) species don't occur naturally in the wild (and I'd assume it'd be the same for dragons.) So, I find it strange that there would be an entire *TRIBE* of Night-Lights (which would heavily imply that interspecies breeding is the norm, and not the exception.) This also raises a few questions. 1) How did the Night-Light fury subspecies come to exist in such great numbers if Toothless was the only living Night Fury left? We know that Light Furies aren't an endangered species [if the 3rd movie is anything to go by], so, did Toothless inter-breed with his own hatchlings? (This unfortunate theory probably, and most likely, is *NOT* the case - as such an implication would not fly in a kid's movie or TV series.) A better (less gross) theory would be that Grimmel actually *DIDN'T* cause the extinction of the Night Furies, and that there are more of them out there (which would totally retcon that specific part of HW.) 2) If Grimmel *DIDN'T* singlehandedly cause the destruction of the entire Night Fury species, then, where have they been this whole time if not even in the Hidden World? Is there perhaps a Night Fury flock somewhere that were just never introduced in the mainline series? 3) If there *ARE* more Night Furies, why would they breed outside of their own flock with Light Furies? Again, hybridization is (usually) the exception, and almost *NEVER* the norm, in nature. This wouldn't make any sense. Sorry for the long-winded theory comment. I'm just really interested in how this series explains the existence of an entire Night-Light tribe.
yeh the lightfury is a sub speices of the nightfury. And adventually the night fury genetics would be stamped out of the population, espiecally if there was only one
another theory is that, the genes of toothless are so strong that they remain efven tho they have been doing in-breeding, i guess that toothless genes helps his sons survive so even if they imbreed strong genes remain
You do realize there were other light furies in the hidden world, but no other nightfuries, so while partially inbred, not as much as you'd think. And you can search the hidden world's scene from the third movie, you'll find them. Male and female because Light furies and Night furies are different species, Grimel just never cared enough dragons to check.
I know there are multiple lightfuries and the fact that lightfury is a sub species of nightfury. But to keep the one set of nightfury gene through out many generations is kinda Sus. Also it was a joke...
Thunder looks like a night light and a sand wrath or wolly howl had a baby somewhere along the way. His tail looks like a sand wrath or wolly howl tail. Or is it just me?
I mean there were other light furys in the hidden world so the night lights could have mated with other light furys and that is how thunder is made. but if the nine realms were to continue I would love to see the original dragons from the movies.
Anyone else think it does that two headed dragon looks like the one from that game What’s it called again It’s either just dragons or merge dragon I forget you feed a bunch of tomatoes to dragons they grow and then you breed them
It’s possible the night lights arnt in bred it seems toothless is the last night fury but never confirmed really but I doubt there others it’s possible thunder isn’t a inbred if toothless got around and had a bunch of children like 20 or more but very unlikely
Thunder the night light would only be a night light if bred with pure light fury and pure night fury unless both night light would be Bright night light
No matter what thunder is a descendant of thoothless because he is a night light at least and he’s black so the only way nightlights exist is because of thoothless and he was the last night fury to exist and that created a night light so thunder is definitely a descendant of thoothless I just hope we get some sort of continuation for the old gang
OK so thunder dose look like a night light but how come he dose not look like a night light or any other dragon from how to train ur dragon since it support to be a lead to how to train ur dragon but into a new dragon movie that dose not make any since
I know I might be a little bit bias here... BUT I DON'T APPRECIATE WHEN MY KIND HAS TO FACE GLADIATORS IN AN ARENA! Some of us have had to watch as our children are slaughtered like sheep. Some have lost their whole families!
how to make a mist twister, step 1: google chinese dragon and find a suitable picture, step 2: copy, paste, flip horizontally, step 3: paint a head blue and the other red. step 4: use flex tape and the power of inbreeding. and there ya go you have the stupidest looking dragon there is, also apparently the heads hate each other, even though THEY NEED TO COOPERATE TO STAY THE FUCK ALIVE, its like they had an exciting board meeting being like *yea that adds charachter!* and *this looks cool! im sure the thousands of dedicated how to train your dragons fans will find these inbred dragons cool!* , heard a review as well stating it wasnt very good as well. first cod, then battlefield, and at the very end dreamworks came out with this, 2021 seriously was just dissapointing, not even sad just extremely dissapointing.
So they just took the original cast dragons and made them crappy redesign witse crappy redesign of a Night Fury gronkle Zippleback Deadly Nadder and a wait where's the Monstrous Nightmare!?!!? They're supposed to be 5!!! Not 4!?! ssshhhh FFFFUUUUU
Thunder and Dart are not the same dragon, they are different, they could resemble each other to the point that every second you see Thunder, it reminds you of Dart but no, Thunder is not Dart and Dart is not Thunder
Personally, I think all of these dragons look extremely retarted and bear no resemblance to the originals we all love. The HTTYD looked majestic and genuine, but these just look generic and emotionless.
@@molten_d3no234 I can see what you are saying, and I also love the idea of new dragon species. But from my perspective, I wish they had designed them better.
@@molten_d3no234 how can dragons change so much if they have been setting in the same cavern for thousands of years, and breeding with same species, like i get the nightlights but the others are kinda bad
If my bachelor genetic knowledge is right (not a doctor tho) Thunder doesn't really have to be born from incest, but honestly it's just so unlikely that he isn't.
I would think, Hundreds of generations later, with only one nightfury set of genes, would be kinda sus. tbf I'm only remembering from secondary school so I could easily be wrong.
@@NewOrca Yup, just like I said, higly unlikely that he isn't. *There's a huge explanation here, but you can scroll all the way down to see the chances of having a Nightlight!* If we see Toothless and Light fury, we can learn that gene for black scales (let's call it B) and gene for white scales (let's call it W) are both dominant to somewhat the same leve, causing the codominance phenomenon (that's why night lights are black and white, but not gray) Parents: BB (Toothless) x WW (Light fury) Genotype: B W F1 (first filial generation, AKA nightlights): BW Now, if we mate nightlights with light furies it looks like this Parents: BW x WW Genotype: B W / W If we do a Punnet Square (sort of): B-------------W W-----BW-----------WW 1 out of 2 babies is BW (nightlight). *This means each time a Nightlight mates with a Light fury, there's a 50% chance they'll have another Nightlight.* Actually it's literally a gamble to guess wether Thunder will doom his offspring to genetically inherited deseases for marrying his cousins lmao Edit also: Although if we consider that the standard amount of babies night furies and light furies have based on Toothless and sparkly Toothless is up to three... After so many years it could have messed up because that's what statistics have, sometimes is as if they didn't exist
I’m just gonna say this. 1.I don’t like how they changed it , arnt the ones with BLUE eyes supposed to be a FEMALE. 2.I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to see Dart and her other 2 siblings. 3.So called ‘ Thunder ‘ Has more of the Night Fury traits less of the Light Fury 4.I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to be continuing from Dragons Race From The Edge, Or the HTTYD Movie that came out in 2019, It’s been 2 years! And there it following it!, Me I’m a big fan of the HTTYD Series….But this THIS just wrecked it for me, Sorry for the hate , just expressing myself.
I'd like to argue Thunder displays plenty of Nightfury traits due to Nightfury genes being codominant when mixed with a Lightfury, allowing them to be present throughout the bloodlines even if Toothless's kids bred with pure Lightfuries, they'd still come out as Night Lights
And even if toothless’s genes were lost throughout breeding w the pure light furies, there are cases in real life species where a gene bred out of an animal was brought back years later. Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark. Therefore, the gene that Toothless carried, dark scales, would soon adapt and become stronger as the Furies started evolving to fit their habitat
I kinda miss the teleport and tarning thing though
@@ayanamcr.7303 yes and no nightfury are death and lightning
@@ayanamcr.7303 "Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark." Light furies can become invisible tho and I guess there were no predators to hide from in the hidden world
thunder = night light
I'd like to believe that Thunder is combination of Nightlight and Desert Wrath for its matte scales and other pointy body features such as the tail wings and upper wings.
Sand wrath?
@@Tomy_Lightning no
It seems there might have been some interbreeding between the dragon species over the years. The Mist Twister's body appears to have elements of the Hideous Zippleback, but the heads resemble a Monstrous Nightmare's.
Hybrids
I saw this coming in a long time ago but nooooo nobody listened to me before httyd 3
I am the only one thats thinks that thunder has some skrill genes given its electricity powers
@@zidanedidi No, me too
@@zidanedidino toothless absorbed thunder in the third movie and lightning is made of plasma so lightning is just plasma
People forget it, but i think Feathers may be a descendant of Hobblegrunt form httyd2, it looks more like featherhide and they can both Camouflage
maybe and tide glider because of the overall stature. the mimicking noises must be a new thing
Feathers reminded me of a changewing
@@NexusGamer507 Yes but the shapes are completely different from each other... i think its closer to a Hobbelgrunt, not only for the body shape, but also for the shyness
@@NUBIANNAVY Yea! I thought of that too! Maybe she's a mix between them
@@giulf3der957 well don't forget that the Dramillion Titan can turn invisible/camouflage too because Dramillions are related to Changewings even though they don't look like it
The only weakness he does have is if one of his tail fins gets damaged, missing, or cut off, he can't fly.
very tru
The mimic dragons ability for feathers may come from dramilons they were a dragon introduced in race to the edge they could mimic dragon fire and dragons i think
I'm thinking the nightlight may have breed with a skrill dragon(a different one from from the series) or something as who's to say that dragons of different races(types or whatever you would call it) of dragon can't mate with each other?
Wait but toothless had that power also from httyd 3
So, Wu & Wei are basically HyoRyu and EnRyu from GaoGaiGar? And also, my favorite of these new Dragons, apart from Wu & Wei, has gotta be Feathers. Such a pretty design, and some sweet abilities!
Feathers looks a lot like a mix of a Death Song a Mystery Class Dragon and a Changewing
I mean, curiosity can harm you..... Getting into bad situations all cuz of being too curious.
The new designs emanate the old gang a lot i think. There's the night fury type, the two-headed type, the boulder class poster boy, and a female dragon with bright colours and a bunch of extra features at the back of her head. Ie. A new Toothless, Barf & Belch, Meatlug and Stormfly. And i guess you could argue that Hookfang is present in the way Wu and Wei's heads look.
For those who didn't know, there is a full series of dragon riders in Netflix it is called How To Train Your Dragon Race To The Edge 😊
Yes an actually good and cannon series
Am I the only one who's thinking that thunder actually might be crossed with something else... I mean you can definitely see the nightlight in him. Especially on the coloration and similar shape to his ancestors
but something about how he looks and how his Whole lightning thing works Kinda makes me think that hes crossed with some sort of other dragon besides other nightlights.... Of course that also could be just an evolution thing since it has been 1300 years.
I don't know
...it is more of just a guess Besides the change of shape in his body his ears and a bit of his wings he also has an extra tail tailfin?
Like I said he just looks like he has more than just nightlight mixed with him.
Though personally without a anothat nightlight around that time to compare him too it's hard to say whether it's an Evolution thing or not 🤔
YEAH! HOW CAN HE STILL BE BLACK AND WHITE AFTER 1,300 YEARS!! IF THERE ARE NO MORE NIGHT FURIES AND ONLY LIGHT FURIES, THE ORIGONAL NIGHT LIGHTS HAD TO MATE WITH LIGHT FURIES AND SO DOES THEIR CHILDERN, GRANDCHILDEN ETC. BUT THE BLACK PART WOULD BE ALL GONE AFETR BREED SO MANY TIMES WITH LIGHT FURIES! THEY SHOULD BE ALL WHITE! AND THE TAIL FIN DOSENT EVEN RESSEMBLE A NIGHT FURY OR LIGHT FURY!
I was thinking that Thunder may have some Sandwraith in him, with the extra fin and all, since sandwraiths seem like a really similar species, which would allow for cross breeding.
Sweet home alabama intensifies
@@NUBIANNAVY I mean, there are cases in real life species where a gene bred out of an animal was brought back years later. Living underground, an entirely white dragon would become defenseless with no way to hide in the dark. Therefore, the gene that Toothless carried, dark scales, would soon adapt and become stronger as the Furies started evolving to fit their habitat.
I personally think that he might be crossbred with skrill
Aletori made a great video explaining the way Thunder was created.
Have to say, these they all look cross breed dragons either way still cool, really like wu and Wei and feathers
The featherhide looks alot like the somnacanth from monster hunter rise and the screams from design
I like this creativity of these four dragons, obviously Thunder is a Night Light but I like how they're doing it.
I don't see why the Gembreakers are so hated dragons. They are actually my favourites.
Hopefully more episodes will come I’m like if this series
The music out How to Train Your Dragon Easy Made is always still there
This video was amazing
I’m excited for this series even tho I didn’t like how it was set in the future but now as I watch the trailer more it’s like give this a chance I use to dislike the looks of the dragons now I think there cool honestly
How old are you? You seriously like this show?
@@paleoguy2165 You say it as if Resty were a weirdo for liking the show but rather you are the weirdo for not accepting that people like a show that you don't like, there will be people who don't like the show but there are also people who like it and just because of that they can't be called weirdos or they aren't true fans of HTTYD because of that, because saying things like that, like I said, only makes you a weird clown.
could there be inter species breeding cause thunder has some qualities like the wraith
Okay,But why does Feathers Has the smae Traits From the ones of a Rainwing from wings of fire, By tui. T sutherland
No weaknesses, Toothless's missing tailfin! Everyone knows that with dragons it's the wings and the tails you really want to go for. If it can't fly, it can't get away. Gobber said it best; a downed dragon is a dead dragon.
Having said that, though, I don't believe that Thunder is a result of inbreeding. I personally think that there may have been other Night Furies out there other than Toothless, and they may have escaped to other hidden worlds, because there's no way that there was only one hidden world. And when they grew up, Toothless's kids likely bred with other Light Furies while one of his kids, possibly Dart who is the only female of the trio, may have come across another Night Fury. And the three of them would then go on to have little Night Light babies of their own. Over time, the Night Lights' genetic structure may have adapted and changed as the generations passed and would have made the Night Lights into their own subspecies of the Night Fury and Light Fury dragons, thus leading to these new adaptations that we see in Thunder, such as his folding tail spade with a dorsal fin, and their more concave body structure that gives them a more prominent chest and a more sunken appearance in their mid-section. They may have also perfected the dormant Lightning Generation ability that Toothless possessed, as people believe that Night Furies and the Skrill share a common evolutionary ancestor like the Boneknapper and the Armorwing dragons.
Thunder he actually might be the son of toothless idk it’s random idk if they are
extreme curiosity could easily be a weakness, putting yourself into dangerous situations, not leaving when you know you should, biting off more than you can chew all because you want to know what will happen
think of that guy from summer camp who would talk about how he'd eat anything for five bucks and everyone and his mother knew it wasnt about the money
he was just daft.
I'd like to argue that before they named an orca dragon THUNDER, I already done that in 2019-20 and that was in relation to the VANCOUVER CANUCKS ORCA LOGO even the NHL knows that very well during the BUBBLE GAMES. Even have a mash up song of Imagine Dragons' THUNDER and Katy Perry's ROAR called ROARING THUNDER in UA-cam. Someone made ROAR song video with TOOTLESS and HICCUP and maybe for TOM and THUNDER it will be the mash up of ROAR/THUNDER (Katy Perry/ Imagine Dragons) by DJ Flapjack in UA-cam.
I feel like thunder is a mix breed of a sandwraith and skrill which would explain the look and lightning
What I don't understand about this series is this "Night-Light Tribe" that was mentioned. The only reason the Night-Light species even came into existence is because Toothless was the last Night Fury to have ever existed, and the closest living relative of the Night Fury species were the Light Fury (sub?)species and, dragons being animals with the drive to continue their species, mated, and had (adorable) hybrid babies. Hybrids between different (though related) species don't occur naturally in the wild (and I'd assume it'd be the same for dragons.) So, I find it strange that there would be an entire *TRIBE* of Night-Lights (which would heavily imply that interspecies breeding is the norm, and not the exception.)
This also raises a few questions. 1) How did the Night-Light fury subspecies come to exist in such great numbers if Toothless was the only living Night Fury left? We know that Light Furies aren't an endangered species [if the 3rd movie is anything to go by], so, did Toothless inter-breed with his own hatchlings? (This unfortunate theory probably, and most likely, is *NOT* the case - as such an implication would not fly in a kid's movie or TV series.) A better (less gross) theory would be that Grimmel actually *DIDN'T* cause the extinction of the Night Furies, and that there are more of them out there (which would totally retcon that specific part of HW.)
2) If Grimmel *DIDN'T* singlehandedly cause the destruction of the entire Night Fury species, then, where have they been this whole time if not even in the Hidden World? Is there perhaps a Night Fury flock somewhere that were just never introduced in the mainline series?
3) If there *ARE* more Night Furies, why would they breed outside of their own flock with Light Furies? Again, hybridization is (usually) the exception, and almost *NEVER* the norm, in nature. This wouldn't make any sense.
Sorry for the long-winded theory comment. I'm just really interested in how this series explains the existence of an entire Night-Light tribe.
yeh the lightfury is a sub speices of the nightfury. And adventually the night fury genetics would be stamped out of the population, espiecally if there was only one
another theory is that, the genes of toothless are so strong that they remain efven tho they have been doing in-breeding, i guess that toothless genes helps his sons survive so even if they imbreed strong genes remain
and if they in-breed, toothless will also be a part of their gene
So from what I got from the Wu & Wei is that they are basically a combination of a Zippleback, a Scauldron, a Seashocker and Mulan's Mushu.
Do they not know what weaknesses are?
With &Wei remind me of tuffnuts and ruffnuts Dragon ,one blauches a flammable gas and the other sets it on fire by lighting the gas .
Maybe one of toothless's nightlights bred with a skrill but the nightlight genes were way more dominant because of the alpha genes from toothless.
If the mist twister ever comes to sod... I'm definitely naming it shoto... It even has hot and cold breath ✋💀
I feel like the Mist Twister shouldn't be a Tidal Class or Stoker Class but Mystery Class.
You do realize there were other light furies in the hidden world, but no other nightfuries, so while partially inbred, not as much as you'd think. And you can search the hidden world's scene from the third movie, you'll find them. Male and female because Light furies and Night furies are different species, Grimel just never cared enough dragons to check.
I know there are multiple lightfuries and the fact that lightfury is a sub species of nightfury. But to keep the one set of nightfury gene through out many generations is kinda Sus. Also it was a joke...
@@NewOrca I realize it's a joke, but there are people that legitimately haven't noticed
Thunder looks like a night light and a sand wrath or wolly howl had a baby somewhere along the way. His tail looks like a sand wrath or wolly howl tail.
Or is it just me?
I feel the gembreaker should be a Boulder as well
I mean there were other light furys in the hidden world so the night lights could have mated with other light furys and that is how thunder is made. but if the nine realms were to continue I would love to see the original dragons from the movies.
Anyone else think it does that two headed dragon looks like the one from that game
What’s it called again
It’s either just dragons or merge dragon I forget you feed a bunch of tomatoes to dragons they grow and then you breed them
To me feathers is a mix of changewing and death song
Huh il give it a chance...
Thunder could be a skrill and a nightlight
or most likely the electric elements from nightfury has evolved futher into more powerful abilities
Plowhorn is literally khepera dragon in roblox dragon adventures
I don’t think thunder inbreeding I think they’re was actually another light fury toothless .. got at or another toothless and light fury
I’m sorry how is a species with gem in its name not go to Boulder class and instead goes to tracker?
Thunder could be Toothlesses descendants and an alpha Dragon .
What the fuck happened, it's like DreamWorks is actively ruining the franchise
At least like dart had a problem but thunder kinda fixed it blue eyes can be for males
Thumb nailed scared me I thought thunder was some creepy clown face
thunder looks like dart
i love feather
You mean five. Remember one at episode 6
Gem breaker is a friking tracker class?!??!
A name like that and an aperence and fire like that screams bolder class
It does have some other bolder class like features as well
i think thunder is half night light half Skrill because of his more prominent electro kinesis
0:12 well yeah. They are animals
It’s possible the night lights arnt in bred it seems toothless is the last night fury but never confirmed really but I doubt there others it’s possible thunder isn’t a inbred if toothless got around and had a bunch of children like 20 or more but very unlikely
anyone else think the gembreaker might be misclassified? I think it fits boulder class better-
Who cares the show isn’t cannon
Where can i watch it please help
You can't really out side the US.
@@NewOrca ahh that sucks
I think thunder is a hybrid
I can explain it in five words "All are shit but one"
Is this a game or a tv show
tv show
@@NewOrca Damit I was hoping it was a video game
@@NewOrca hi is this on Netflix or some where else’s
Thunder the night light would only be a night light if bred with pure light fury and pure night fury unless both night light would be Bright night light
Yes alteori made a video discussing that the only way thunder could exist is that he would have to be immensely inbred.
No matter what thunder is a descendant of thoothless because he is a night light at least and he’s black so the only way nightlights exist is because of thoothless and he was the last night fury to exist and that created a night light so thunder is definitely a descendant of thoothless I just hope we get some sort of continuation for the old gang
The show isn’t cannon my guy it’s just a cheaply made soulless shameless cash grab kids show
OK so thunder dose look like a night light but how come he dose not look like a night light or any other dragon from how to train ur dragon since it support to be a lead to how to train ur dragon but into a new dragon movie that dose not make any since
Patterns change through generations and individuals
Let me say what we're all thinking. Stoic the vast only has weaknesses!😑
I know I might be a little bit bias here... BUT I DON'T APPRECIATE WHEN MY KIND HAS TO FACE GLADIATORS IN AN ARENA! Some of us have had to watch as our children are slaughtered like sheep. Some have lost their whole families!
It wasn't until Hiccup that we finally had hope again.
Wtf? Stoick the vaast is a legend!
@@paleoguy2165 He's a legend for almost getting us all killed. And for being an idiot sometimes.
Look how they massacred my childhood
Also thunder is not inbred
Why is it called "The 'Nine' Realms"?
Not sure
is this My nightmare wtf they Made ?!?!?!
how to make a mist twister, step 1: google chinese dragon and find a suitable picture, step 2: copy, paste, flip horizontally, step 3: paint a head blue and the other red. step 4: use flex tape and the power of inbreeding. and there ya go you have the stupidest looking dragon there is, also apparently the heads hate each other, even though THEY NEED TO COOPERATE TO STAY THE FUCK ALIVE, its like they had an exciting board meeting being like *yea that adds charachter!* and *this looks cool! im sure the thousands of dedicated how to train your dragons fans will find these inbred dragons cool!* , heard a review as well stating it wasnt very good as well. first cod, then battlefield, and at the very end dreamworks came out with this, 2021 seriously was just dissapointing, not even sad just extremely dissapointing.
Oh my god no
🚨Spoiler🚨 alert 🚨it’s
BAD REALLY BADDDDDDDDDD
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The background idea for this show is cool but this execution is…ehh
So they just took the original cast dragons and made them crappy redesign witse crappy redesign of a Night Fury gronkle Zippleback Deadly Nadder and a wait where's the Monstrous Nightmare!?!!? They're supposed to be 5!!! Not 4!?! ssshhhh FFFFUUUUU
Why bother covering them? The series isn’t cannon
Tbh they are trying to hard to get Evey single drop of money from this franchise
In DraGons the nine realms thunder is actually a girl Dragon not a boy Dragon the highlights real name is dart
Thunder is a male, they refer to it as a he in the show
Thunder and Dart are not the same dragon, they are different, they could resemble each other to the point that every second you see Thunder, it reminds you of Dart but no, Thunder is not Dart and Dart is not Thunder
Wu Wei is just by far the most racist dragon design that I have ever seen.
this doesn't look as good as how to train your dragon
I don’t like them they could be better and just seem to out of place with the original dragons
hate it (the dragons)
Personally, I think all of these dragons look extremely retarted and bear no resemblance to the originals we all love. The HTTYD looked majestic and genuine, but these just look generic and emotionless.
Liger arent winning beauty contest either they they hybrids remebered this and the cgi Budget or this show here not higv
And they don't have to look identical? This series is trying something new and I'm all for it.
@@molten_d3no234 I can see what you are saying, and I also love the idea of new dragon species. But from my perspective, I wish they had designed them better.
@@molten_d3no234 how can dragons change so much if they have been setting in the same cavern for thousands of years, and breeding with same species, like i get the nightlights but the others are kinda bad
Ya know why? Becuase this show is a shamelsss, cheaply made cash grab for kids.
If my bachelor genetic knowledge is right (not a doctor tho) Thunder doesn't really have to be born from incest, but honestly it's just so unlikely that he isn't.
I would think, Hundreds of generations later, with only one nightfury set of genes, would be kinda sus. tbf I'm only remembering from secondary school so I could easily be wrong.
@@NewOrca Yup, just like I said, higly unlikely that he isn't.
*There's a huge explanation here, but you can scroll all the way down to see the chances of having a Nightlight!*
If we see Toothless and Light fury, we can learn that gene for black scales (let's call it B) and gene for white scales (let's call it W) are both dominant to somewhat the same leve, causing the codominance phenomenon (that's why night lights are black and white, but not gray)
Parents: BB (Toothless) x WW (Light fury)
Genotype: B W
F1 (first filial generation, AKA nightlights): BW
Now, if we mate nightlights with light furies it looks like this
Parents: BW x WW
Genotype: B W / W
If we do a Punnet Square (sort of):
B-------------W
W-----BW-----------WW
1 out of 2 babies is BW (nightlight).
*This means each time a Nightlight mates with a Light fury, there's a 50% chance they'll have another Nightlight.*
Actually it's literally a gamble to guess wether Thunder will doom his offspring to genetically inherited deseases for marrying his cousins lmao
Edit also: Although if we consider that the standard amount of babies night furies and light furies have based on Toothless and sparkly Toothless is up to three... After so many years it could have messed up because that's what statistics have, sometimes is as if they didn't exist
I’m glad I never watched this show these dragons suck, except thunder who’s only a little weird looking
I’m just gonna say this.
1.I don’t like how they changed it , arnt the ones with BLUE eyes supposed to be a FEMALE.
2.I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to see Dart and her other 2 siblings.
3.So called ‘ Thunder ‘ Has more of the Night Fury traits less of the Light Fury
4.I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to be continuing from Dragons Race From The Edge, Or the HTTYD Movie that came out in 2019, It’s been 2 years! And there it following it!, Me I’m a big fan of the HTTYD Series….But this THIS just wrecked it for me, Sorry for the hate , just expressing myself.
No i Think out of toothless children the nightlight more white with green eyed was a girl the blue one a boy and the other green eyes more Black a boy
@@jasminkrieger8464 well I’m just saying, bc Lunas eyes were blue.
@@aussie.system8576 hmm yeah but we see male lightfury in hidden world having blue eyes aswell
@@aussie.system8576 in Background you see a maleamd other female lightfury and lightfury babies in eggs
@@aussie.system8576 a big colony
Wu and wei is just a todoroki ripoff