Klamath Water Basin drought impacting farmers, concerning Native American Tribes

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2021
  • A severe drought in southern Oregon is leading to a crisis for many farmers in the Klamath Basin.
    The basin stretches over 12,000 square miles in southern Oregon and northern California. It is home to farmlands that were marshes until the early 1900s.
    The lake supplies irrigation water, which is controlled by the federal government's Bureau of Reclamation. But it’s also the source of water that endangered fish need to survive and Native American tribes need as well.
    This year, the federal Bureau of Reclamation said there is not enough water and announced the farmers will get nothing in an effort to save the endangered fish, infuriating some.
    “Pretty soon we’re gonna get this water flowin',” said farmer Dan Nielson as he stood by a chain-link fence near a main irrigation canal. “One way or another this water is gonna flow this year. We’re not gonna let the government steal our water."
    He and another farmer bought a small plot of land right next to something called the "headgate," which controls the flow of irrigation water out of the lake.
    Right now, it's closed and the canal the water would flow through is blocked with massive concrete slabs that would stop most of the water even if someone did open the headgate.
    Local newspaper reporter Alex Schwartz said most farmers do not want the headgate forced open.
    “The majority of farmers in the project don’t support the action that these folks at the headgate plan to take. They don’t support trespassing on government property or removing the headgates,” he said.
    Schwartz works for the Herald and News out of Klamath Falls.
    For the past year, he's covered the drought and irrigation water. He said many farmers see the threats to force the water to flow as a distraction.
    “They believe it’s not going to actually help them this year. It’s not going to get them any additional water, cause a lot of crops have already been planted on the basis of somebody has well water or some districts are still able to divert some surface water from other places,” he said.
    There is no question many farmers are being financially hurt by the lack of water.
    It’s likely worse than the shortage of 2001, which saw tens of thousands arrive in the area to help with a bucket brigade. Protesters literally took buckets of water from the lake to pour into the irrigation canal. Eventually, some water did flow but it was a fraction of the normal amount and later in the summer.
    Story: www.kgw.com/article/money/kla...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @johnjohnson6094
    @johnjohnson6094 3 роки тому +26

    No water + no crops= no food.

    • @eradicator187
      @eradicator187 3 роки тому +4

      And no people 😁

    • @timothyhill9146
      @timothyhill9146 3 роки тому +1

      What about when its gone forever?

    • @kushking949
      @kushking949 3 роки тому

      @@timothyhill9146 there is an ocean sped

    • @marstongould9234
      @marstongould9234 3 роки тому +1

      @@kushking949 ever tried to grow something in salt water? Hope you like kelp

    • @kushking949
      @kushking949 3 роки тому +3

      @@marstongould9234 There is already countries converting sea water to fresh water it can be done and is being done actually a part if cali already has a plant up

  • @capitalgains4194
    @capitalgains4194 3 роки тому +11

    Kind of ironic when you demand resources on stolen land. When it was in power of natives their was never ever this problem

  • @whendoigettosayfuck
    @whendoigettosayfuck 3 роки тому +10

    Stop growing corn, bro. Stop growing massive amounts of everything.

    • @whendoigettosayfuck
      @whendoigettosayfuck 3 роки тому +2

      @OMINOID All farms are using about 90% of all that water. There is no thought to making sure we have enough food. They are trying to grow bumper crops by any means necessary to make as much money as possible. The fact that most of the food is thrown out and rotting away means nothing to anyone. We don't need this much mass farming. We need education for people to grow their own stuff at home instead of a lawn.

    • @whendoigettosayfuck
      @whendoigettosayfuck 3 роки тому +1

      @OMINOID I live in MAine in an agricultural zone. If I was not in so much pain right now I would have lots of stuff farming myself. I have big plans to cut down all the trees, set up bee hives, have raised beds for greens and veggies, build a chicken coop and get a cow to milk. Should be done in about 100 years at this pace.

    • @tommysimmons3258
      @tommysimmons3258 3 роки тому

      @@whendoigettosayfuck still need water for that too.

  • @frankblangeard8865
    @frankblangeard8865 3 роки тому +6

    Here you can see the main problem 2:38.

  • @joshglassman4160
    @joshglassman4160 3 роки тому +2

    Have we all lost our minds! We live on a water planet. No way of removing some salt from the little pond around us all? We always seem to have money for things that line the politicians and elites pockets.

  • @casienwhey
    @casienwhey 3 роки тому +4

    The real problem is we have settled in areas in the west that are desert or arid in nature and then we planted all kinds of crops in areas that didnt have enough water to support them. So, when you "reclaim" the desert it's not a big surprise that you may have water shortages.

    • @MyKharli
      @MyKharli 3 роки тому +1

      Short termism at its finest .. What did they think ? some tech fix like fusion powered desalination plants ? crazy .

    • @freegedankenzurbaukunst5613
      @freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 3 роки тому

      @@MyKharli Why not an underground river from the Great Lakes ?

    • @MyKharli
      @MyKharli 3 роки тому +1

      @@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 Probably a better use for a hyperloop though. Fill it with water :}

  • @willapanews9761
    @willapanews9761 3 роки тому +17

    Tribal water rights supersede all other water rights in the Klamath River basin because of the simple principle of first in place, first in time.

  • @SC-fj2zp
    @SC-fj2zp 3 роки тому +17

    The Native Americans should have the final say period!!! This is thier land and I approve this message😳

  • @skuggensdam13
    @skuggensdam13 3 роки тому +4

    The farmers need to learn better farming techniques which would result in less water use.

    • @queenfubi
      @queenfubi 3 роки тому +1

      The bureau of reclamation does a piss poor job and that's the sole purpose for their existence

    • @gregkoenig9200
      @gregkoenig9200 3 роки тому

      This is a irresponsible statement farmers dont waste anything. Waste eqauls lost income. The problem with the bureau of reclamation it is no longer run by the same mindset of when the klamath project was done. It is now run by bearoucrats

    • @DerrekWayne
      @DerrekWayne 3 роки тому

      Agree. We as a people, gun nuts and pronoun people, togeather, need to get off of synthetic fertilizers. The chemicals are depleting the land. Soil food web is the answer.

  • @FullFrontalExposure
    @FullFrontalExposure 3 роки тому +1

    Leave it to the government to fuck everything up.

  • @adampalmer5399
    @adampalmer5399 3 роки тому +1

    It’s about time they put the Indians needs in front of others for one of the first times!💯👍

  • @miguelcarter1949
    @miguelcarter1949 3 роки тому +3

    Reduce all city water by 25% give it to the farmers to feed the people
    Can you people in the city EAT your lawn and water fountains ?

  • @jeffarcher400
    @jeffarcher400 3 роки тому +3

    We spent a lot of money helping build the Panama canal and many other projects around the world.
    We are giving billions away right now.
    If we invested in water transfer and storage we could build canals, pipelines and aquaducts to move water from the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers in times of flood to refill reservoirs and eventually creat huge inland freshwater lakes in the sub sea level areas of Mojave and Salton Sea.
    That would act like a giant rain factory also taking the heat down and creating summer tropical storm rain instead of hot,dry Santa Ana winds and fires.
    Water is more precious than gold or oil and we let it cause damage when there's too much and when there's not enough we say to pray it rains.
    All the while fresh water flows into the sea.

    • @RuthB51
      @RuthB51 3 роки тому +1

      We owned the Panama canal for 100 years and we more than made our money back. We built it as a strategy to become a world power... and it worked. You make it sound like charity. Like every other political body, the US acts in its own self interest. We also don't just "give away billions." Most of the money we spend on foreign aid primarily goes to US companies working overseas. The money is spent, again, in our best interest. We spend it to establish or preserve our influence in regions of significance, or to reduce the need to migrate to our borders, or to foster trade to benefit US companies, etc.
      As for water... Some states already have implemented water strategies. Arizona, for instance, has a very robust water management and storage system. But no amount of water management is going to be enough to combat climate change.

    • @jeffarcher400
      @jeffarcher400 3 роки тому +1

      @@RuthB51 I never said the canal was a bad thing, just how much difference in our country such spending would make.
      Definitely not charity but an investment in navigation.
      Imagine how much more fuel would be required if it wasn't built.
      I am proud of American accomplishments and want more of it,right here at home.
      We often have flooding and drought at the same time. We can do better.

    • @RuthB51
      @RuthB51 3 роки тому +1

      @@jeffarcher400 I'm all for building up our infrastructure. Realistically, we're going to have to, aren't we?
      But dealing with (and definitely solving) fresh water shortages is going to require more than that. It will require sacrifice and working together... things Americans only do in times of emergency. Until enough Americans realize the emergency we're in, we can just expect more gridlock while the problem gets worse.

    • @jeffarcher400
      @jeffarcher400 3 роки тому +2

      @@RuthB51 fully agree. Water is bigger than politics,religion or even our food.
      Earth is the water planet.
      We are not focused on what's important.
      Hopefully once we realize protecting earth,water and air actually maximizes profits everything will work out fine.

    • @1-chef-875
      @1-chef-875 3 роки тому

      Thats actually smart as hell. Have you wrote to the president about this? You should could be saving alot of people and businesses

  • @jobe8764
    @jobe8764 3 роки тому +5

    There is no reason to not operate desalination plants and pipeline water to distressed areas. There needs to be pipelines to pump fresh water from flooded parts of the country. If Rome could build aqueducts of from stones over two thousand years ago; the USA should come up with a solution now. Just get the bureaucrats out of the way!

  • @lancelessard2491
    @lancelessard2491 3 роки тому +11

    The local tribe has the rights to that water, but some think it's OK to take whatever they want from the native tribes regardless of treaties and legal rights. It's always been like that with these people.

    • @pooper844
      @pooper844 3 роки тому

      Indian tribes cause problems to society. Liberal to the core. Move them to the liberal cities so they can liberate.

    • @lancelessard2491
      @lancelessard2491 3 роки тому

      @@pooper844 You've just proved my point.

    • @788lakers
      @788lakers 3 роки тому +1

      @@pooper844 last time I checked Europeans decimated natives and enslaved blacks. Yet you say we caused problems to your society. 🙄

  • @justrosy5
    @justrosy5 3 роки тому +1

    Don't ignore fire season.

  • @johnsweazy358
    @johnsweazy358 3 роки тому +2

    What are these short sited people going to do when there is no water on the other side of that gate?

    • @MyKharli
      @MyKharli 3 роки тому

      They will ask elon musk how to get water from the poles like he `s going to do on mars ..rofl .

  • @swrtsolutionsinc.1092
    @swrtsolutionsinc.1092 3 роки тому

    SWRT membranes installed below plant root systems retain water where it falls, providing continuous delivery of
    drought-free periods up to 3 times longer than intensely irrigated control sands without root zone water retention membranes (Guber et al, 2016).

  • @dustin860
    @dustin860 3 роки тому +16

    "We don't have the water to farm to make money, let's buy this property right here." These idiots don't care about anything but themselves. Bunch of bullies, need to grow up and act their age.

    • @justinbayola
      @justinbayola 3 роки тому +2

      hey idiot, farmers dont farm food for themselves, they farm it for you....

    • @MThomasB
      @MThomasB 3 роки тому +3

      @@justinbayola That doesn't erase the way these guys are acting which you have chosen to ignore. It is difficult on all sides and these men are only concerned with themselves. True farmers need the water but Native tribes have rights as well.

    • @justinbayola
      @justinbayola 3 роки тому +1

      @@MThomasB they have a right just like anyone to be concerned with their own affairs... that water is their life and when you fuck with people's lives you are gonna get a fight.

    • @dustin860
      @dustin860 3 роки тому +2

      @@justinbayola then they should look into more sustainable ways of agriculture. By deciding to grow a monocrop they put themselves in this situation. I know farmers in the Klamath Basin that are doing just fine because they planned ahead.

  • @brianjacobsen5762
    @brianjacobsen5762 3 роки тому +1

    Bet corporate farms gets water.

  • @shorttime1351
    @shorttime1351 3 роки тому +1

    Can we just stop for a moment and realize how beautiful and well spoken the news anchor is.

  • @jamesm2130
    @jamesm2130 3 роки тому

    It's really starting to show. The beginning of the End! Today is my 44th Birthday and it is very possible I could live long enough to witness resource war's. So I ask all of you. Just how far would you go for a glass of water?

  • @Bejmo75
    @Bejmo75 3 роки тому

    I hear there is a water chip near by.

  • @mieszkoherburt354
    @mieszkoherburt354 3 роки тому

    Maybe farming 4094 ft above see level is not a very good idea.

  • @climatehero
    @climatehero 3 роки тому

    Exceptional will become normal!

  • @mauricebrown9094
    @mauricebrown9094 3 роки тому +6

    Since your lacking in water this year why don't you start rebuilding the soil, so you wont have to use pesticides, and other chemicals on your land. And stop trying for that perfect shape ,taste, size product. Bugger what the consumer demands, just grow good healthy produce. Millions around the world used to eat all kinds of produce and never worried about the shape of a few, we just wanted healthy food. Try getting that, it will do us all good. You wont waste as much product, you can cut a lot of costs due to not using so many chemicals on your land , we will have much healthier food, in turn eating more of it. So cover your land in Carbon rich compost, cover that with mulch to keep moisture in, and leave it a while. Learn to save water..

  • @hasanchoudhury5401
    @hasanchoudhury5401 2 роки тому

    How about massive water transportation pipelines projects from the upper Midwest states to California and the Southwest states from the seasonal surplus water for reasonable fees?
    Food security and national security issue?
    Solar wind energy may be helpful!
    Climate emergency mitigation?
    Can’t pretend it is not there or we can’t think big ?
    Let the infrastructure engineers speak up?

  • @omnigeddon
    @omnigeddon 3 роки тому +3

    Klamath lake needs to be maintained by all means necessary there is a rare bacteria in the lake that exists no where else.. but is capable of allowing stem cell instructions.. must be saved this blue green algae.. if these farmers think their income is more important then the algae.. they are in for a shotgun facelift mistake..

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 3 роки тому +3

    People and farms should not be in any desert area. There are too many people, and farms that grow crops that require a lot of water. So fewer people, and change of crops is in order. But it will never happen.

    • @paulmccray4055
      @paulmccray4055 3 роки тому +1

      do you really think southern Oregon is desert? its pure woods

  • @andrenewcomb3708
    @andrenewcomb3708 3 роки тому +1

    Bone-ville snakes.

  • @cindylucero5582
    @cindylucero5582 3 роки тому +2

    Funny I live here and all rivers and creeks and lakes are full

  • @dallastaylor5479
    @dallastaylor5479 3 роки тому +3

    Who was there first, the farmers or Indians? But then that doesn't matter. There you go, drain the land, make it farm land, introduce climate change and watch the fireworks. 😜

  • @gerald4027
    @gerald4027 3 роки тому +4

    Klamath lake will be drained by LAS VEGAS .

  • @chupacabra1765
    @chupacabra1765 3 роки тому

    Seems like everyone is asleep. We need farms, immediately they need to made more efficient do get water directly to plants with minimal peripheral wetting and evaporation. Law makers need to be prepared to take water from Crater lake if needed. It's 2000' deep and should be able to service water demands in the interim. Same with Lake Tahoe, for drinking water and efficient farms only. Sewage treatment plants upgraded to produce clear safe usable water for local farming. It seems like government are like deer in the headlights. Too afraid to do anything so they don't upset selfish groups. Local governments should perhaps not be involved in decision making due to the problem are many in bed with big business and other groups and will be afraid to make the tough decisions. Temporary proxies or even the military engineers should be involved with this as they can also provide security. Our society is nothing like it was decades ago. The get ur done attitude has waned significantly. Great leaders or of a bygone era.

  • @justa.seeker4558
    @justa.seeker4558 3 роки тому +2

    It takes One Gallon of water for one Almond and Five Gallons for one Walnut and there are thousands of acers of these in California. Most are shipped out of the US, Ban the nuts!!!

  • @MrDXRamirez
    @MrDXRamirez 3 роки тому +1

    An estuary water preserve should never have been turned into a crop field.
    This is a total disaster.

  • @xaviotesharris891
    @xaviotesharris891 3 роки тому +6

    Perhaps we'll at least get the silver lining of Ammon Bundy finally ending up in prison.

  • @snowmiser4893
    @snowmiser4893 3 роки тому +7

    Your entire unsustainable civilization is cracking and tearing at the seams. You were warned and chose to ignore the risks. lol

  • @edwardfranco5127
    @edwardfranco5127 3 роки тому

    Sounds like you're not committed to say I think we reached the Tipping Point and global warming of no return refugees pouring over the Mississippi River in tremendous numbers as Americans turn out to be refugees God bless

  • @allenschmitz9644
    @allenschmitz9644 3 роки тому

    West ward ho....free land for farming.

  • @nakosimpson7459
    @nakosimpson7459 3 роки тому

    U

  • @stevecole2616
    @stevecole2616 3 роки тому +2

    Go away farmers

  • @opinioncounts5490
    @opinioncounts5490 3 роки тому +6

    I am so tired of the stupidity in this country, where is a unlimited supply of water, maybe the 70% of the earths surface. Start building desalination plants, is expensive yes, but research better ways to desalination cheaper. What is the option, loose the entire west cost to drought. .?

    • @johnb1567
      @johnb1567 3 роки тому

      something will need to be done... alot of these farms use flood irrigation as well which is the worst way possible to irrigate. I few million dollars to get the irrigation process updated first will be a step in the right direction. After that, then new sources of water.

    • @matthewgoodman7588
      @matthewgoodman7588 3 роки тому +1

      We should probably figure this out before we just can't farm anything anymore.

  • @casualbrowser407
    @casualbrowser407 3 роки тому +2

    Turn the water back on. Most of the hippies on this thread have newer plowed an acre and yet feel confident giving advice. How would you people feel if the farmers started organizing your towns ? ... Right! ... so stay out of their farms, to each - his own.

    • @johnb1567
      @johnb1567 3 роки тому +1

      Im gonna turn right back around and call you a subhuman piece of trash. Why dont you read a freakin book. The water doesnt belong to the farmers alone you dirt bag.

    • @casualbrowser407
      @casualbrowser407 3 роки тому

      @@johnb1567 You seem well-read and highly educated. I'm honored by the quality of your remarks and mastery of English language. Thank you!

    • @johnb1567
      @johnb1567 3 роки тому

      @@casualbrowser407 , no problem buddy.. my work here is done.

    • @RuthB51
      @RuthB51 3 роки тому +1

      It's really sad for those farmers and I'm glad the government is stepping in to provide financial assistance. But if we're not going to address the root problem (man-made climate change), this problem will just get worse.

  • @notagain8661
    @notagain8661 3 роки тому

    It may be time to start praying for rain. Then worrying if kids are taught Critical Race Theory! 😒

  • @cindylucero5582
    @cindylucero5582 3 роки тому

    Bullshit?

  • @RubenGMadrigalJr--
    @RubenGMadrigalJr-- 3 роки тому

    Danger danger high voltage your honor anyway with the atomic nuclear reactor and the radiation what good is that water to those people are you still going to give radioactive food take a look at it before you jump in and see what kind of restitution you'll get from the nuclear reactor people and the Japanese government first

  • @djack915
    @djack915 3 роки тому

    Time to move East!

    • @johnb1567
      @johnb1567 3 роки тому

      see ya.. dont let the door hit ya in the rear end on the way out.

    • @djack915
      @djack915 3 роки тому

      @@johnb1567 I been living on the East Coast all my life

  • @cgonzales6671
    @cgonzales6671 2 роки тому

    Hey, Every Year it's the same water problem. This water problem creates racial divide. Along with fishing problems and water shortages for Farmers that grow food for all. Why is there No plan to remedy this yearly problem? The People in Washington D.C. know about this water problem. The Native Indians know about the water problem. The Farmers know about the water problem. The People of Klamath County all know. So how come there has never been a plan to get water to all involved. There has been plenty of Time to Fix this Water Problem. Can You People get Your Own Foot Out of the Way and Work on the Damn Problem. Or You can set N Spin Your Tires and have sucky Fish numbers, small crops and failing farms and Racial Divide. Like You do Every Year.

  • @Bolie420
    @Bolie420 3 роки тому +2

    Joes brain is really dry

  • @moundaroundtown
    @moundaroundtown 3 роки тому +1

    Turn the water on boys!

  • @MrTommyboy68
    @MrTommyboy68 3 роки тому

    All together now: IT'S ALL BIDEN'S FAULT.

  • @yvonneparks1326
    @yvonneparks1326 3 роки тому +1

    Go extinct? What world does she live in? I guess fruit and veggies for the children aren't important or dairy cows for milk?

    • @jonathanedwardgibson
      @jonathanedwardgibson 3 роки тому +2

      I remember growing up on the 70’s listening to family gatherings at the Gorge w/eldest all asking what happened to years of blizzard-after-winter-storms after year, almost whole decades? Where were you when the birds started disappearing? Look up insect-ageddon, Arctic Blue Ocean Event… ua-cam.com/video/_HcABNcc5x0/v-deo.html

    • @athenamorales7321
      @athenamorales7321 3 роки тому

      They are next

  • @timothyhill9146
    @timothyhill9146 3 роки тому +2

    Water mismanaged by democrats? Your kidding!

    • @RuthB51
      @RuthB51 3 роки тому +2

      A conservative denying man-made climate change and blaming Democrats for problems conservatives won't let them fix? Yup, sounds about right.

    • @Gil7111TX
      @Gil7111TX 3 роки тому

      @@RuthB51 cuz is a hoax! the earth climate does change! We can't control that.🤦‍♂️ history shows us, which apparently you don't care..

    • @RuthB51
      @RuthB51 3 роки тому

      @@Gil7111TX Over millennia, the earth's climate does change because of natural events. That's true. What we're experiencing today is not that. The natural potential causes of climate change have all been ruled out. Add to that the positive correlation between the increase in man-made greenhouse gas emissions and the rise in global temperatures, there's literally nothing pointing to this being a natural trend and everything pointing to man-made causes. If you actually understand the history of natural climate change periods including how fast it happens and what causes them, you'll know that those natural events bare no resemblance to what we're experiencing today.