I'm a left-handed stroker, 65 years of age. Thumbless and Two-handers have always stroked my ire, but yet amazed me by the energy that their releases produced. I'll never attempt them, but I'll definitely use your channel for the information it provides for those attracted to this method. Fortunately, I'm open-minded and able to apply some methods of this madness to Old School as well. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the good work. Peace.
Hi Monk Amani sir, my pleasure to have your energized comment. I'm also a one-handed player switching to 2-handed. Open-minded is a great word. I'm so grateful for bowling having an elder player like you. Take care sir and have a great Christmas ahead :D I will definitely keep these videos working.
Amazing work and video, you are combining common sports science mechanics in baseball and tennis with bowling! Repeating your key points throughout the video is so helpful. Now, I need to get to work! P.S. showing you use a practice ball at the gym to work on your swing is a very good idea !
Thank you for your encouragement Paul! Yeah I think having a lighter ball to simulate the movements is better. I will think of many other shooting angles which can best describe the movements of bowling. 🤞😁
So, I actually have the ball low, arm extended in my setup and don't pull back...I use my body momentum and angle and it actually does all the work if I keep my arm locked and straight... end result is 16.50mph to 17mph with a 15lb ball up 3rd arrow or 13 board.
@@BowlismOutlaw No, I'm 2-handed 1 finger hole now. Before, yes I was 1-naded 1 finger hole but had a shoulder issue that forced me into 2-handed. I switch between index finger or middle finger to change my pitch on release. Depends on how the lanes are holding. It changes when the ball breaks and how hard by about 3-4boards and I don't have to move and can throw my same line and target. Tonight in league I rolled with index finger so I could get a few more feet and lower speed before rolling over on fresh oil that was 5mins down before we started. Everyone was dying first game bc we couldn't get anything to hook...
Hi bro. The solution stays in our mindset. We do not need to rotate our shoulders to make the ball hook. Please watch this video then it might explain why :D ua-cam.com/video/77cZ3tqK_2w/v-deo.htmlsi=Je3qbCKgwMktzThg
One thing that I’ve never heard explained is the function of the second hand with this delivery. Biomechanically, the two handed style looks very tough on one’s back. What is the advantage of two-handed delivery over a thumbless one handed delivery? There are a few two handers who bowl with their thumb, is there any advantage to bowling this way?
Thumless one handed style requires good strength and physique of the arm and shoulders. 2 handed style has the help of the non bowling arm. So you can have more control and ability to manipulate the ball motion.
Uhm...not really. I use the knee brace due to the strain in the knee tendons. It's due to the gym exercise not the bowling practice. By the way, I don't use it anymore :D You see: instagram.com/reel/CmwbTHZIOGx/ Just like you say, the hop and plant was painful for the knee. This is usually due to non-optimal sliding step. You can fix it by zooming into the timing and making the swing longer (for 2handed players). I also ask myself why people hop and plant. I also experienced it. The answer might lie in their own interest or it's because the ball coming to the fouline faster than your foot, making you automatically (your brain does it) stop to finish the release though you are not ready to do it yet. So you need to make your timing later a bit so that your feet can reach the foul line earlier than your swing. With this in mind, your sliding step will have enough time to finish. I think I should make another video explaining about this what do you think?
Actually there was a time I always questioned myself why my ball speed was so slow. It’s mainly because: 1. I watch other bowlers’ video and compare my ball speed to theirs. 2. I missed the 10 pin so often due to overhooked shot. But after fixing my timing and approach. I didn’t even think about ball speed 😄 anymore. Trust me bro, ball speed is such an illusion for most 2 handers when they start to learn.
@@BowlismOutlaw I'm just always curious about the delta an individual experienced. Not much the player vs player speed comparison. With some minor practice last time I was on the lanes I was seeing straight balls exceeding 12mph up 1mph and strike balls going 11+ instead of 10+. More work to do on my personal timing. Just wondering how things worked for you is all.
Yeah, measuring ball speed can be tricky. The ball speed will vary based on their rolling phases on the lane. To define the carry, I think it should be the speed of collision with the pin. It's also affected by emotion of bowles :D
Hey Outlaw !! Ok .. I'm looking for a Asymmetric Ball with alot of Backend action Like the " Hammer Jet Black Taboo " .. a Bowling ball that has the similarities as a Hammer " Jet Black Taboo " ..Not to mention I'm a Lefty ( Southpaw) as well ...I was told use Lefty's have a Natural Hook that Right -Handed players don't have ..... Is that true ??
I’m an engineer, so seeing your physics lessons makes be happy! 😁 you do a fantastic job explaining the two handed form and I love your videos!
Wow, you are a bowler and an engineer bro Jman?
This is probably the most informative bowling video I’ve ever watched lmao
Thank you Grimbacho! Your comment makes my Monday. I will keep this work running! :D
You have so many videos about two handed that I have watched and all of them have been super helpful. Take my subscription.
Thank you bro, more to come! :D Grateful for your coming bro! Happy bowling!
This is a very well made and informative video. Keep up the good work!
Glad you liked it Yuval! I will keep up the video series. Many more coming soon!
Such a long waiting for this new video but it's really worth the waiting! I enjoy it, keep up with the good work bro!
I'm a left-handed stroker, 65 years of age. Thumbless and Two-handers have always stroked my ire, but yet
amazed me by the energy that their releases produced. I'll never attempt them, but I'll definitely use your channel for the information it provides for those attracted to this method. Fortunately, I'm open-minded and able to apply some methods of this madness to Old School as well. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the good work. Peace.
Hi Monk Amani sir, my pleasure to have your energized comment. I'm also a one-handed player switching to 2-handed. Open-minded is a great word. I'm so grateful for bowling having an elder player like you. Take care sir and have a great Christmas ahead :D I will definitely keep these videos working.
Thank you so much for breaking this down to this detail. Def will be revisiting this video before hitting the lanes.
Your comment made my day Jonathan 😁
Amazing work and video, you are combining common sports science mechanics in baseball and tennis with bowling! Repeating your key points throughout the video is so helpful. Now, I need to get to work! P.S. showing you use a practice ball at the gym to work on your swing is a very good idea !
Thank you for your encouragement Paul! Yeah I think having a lighter ball to simulate the movements is better. I will think of many other shooting angles which can best describe the movements of bowling. 🤞😁
Wow !!! Great Video Brother ... This is the Style of Bowling I want to learn how to do ...
So happy to hear that Chris. Let’s rock and roll!
It actually helps step by step
Hi Chisato, if you have anything unclear, don't hesitate to comment and ask :D
Came for a bowling video left as Newton’s intellectual superior
So, I actually have the ball low, arm extended in my setup and don't pull back...I use my body momentum and angle and it actually does all the work if I keep my arm locked and straight... end result is 16.50mph to 17mph with a 15lb ball up 3rd arrow or 13 board.
Wow you have no thumb one handed style? ua-cam.com/video/PZCuF-9bSak/v-deo.html
@@BowlismOutlaw No, I'm 2-handed 1 finger hole now. Before, yes I was 1-naded 1 finger hole but had a shoulder issue that forced me into 2-handed. I switch between index finger or middle finger to change my pitch on release. Depends on how the lanes are holding. It changes when the ball breaks and how hard by about 3-4boards and I don't have to move and can throw my same line and target. Tonight in league I rolled with index finger so I could get a few more feet and lower speed before rolling over on fresh oil that was 5mins down before we started. Everyone was dying first game bc we couldn't get anything to hook...
I would call you Mr Versatility 😁
Just like any other sport, know the theory then visualise it. I'm always thinking the swing is like pulling but letting it free fall type of motion.
Yes Kent. Once we know the mechanism, everything is easier indeed.
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When I try to rotate my shoulders, it causes chicken wing swing... How can i prevent that from happening?
Hi bro. The solution stays in our mindset. We do not need to rotate our shoulders to make the ball hook. Please watch this video then it might explain why :D ua-cam.com/video/77cZ3tqK_2w/v-deo.htmlsi=Je3qbCKgwMktzThg
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One thing that I’ve never heard explained is the function of the second hand with this delivery. Biomechanically, the two handed style looks very tough on one’s back. What is the advantage of two-handed delivery over a thumbless one handed delivery? There are a few two handers who bowl with their thumb, is there any advantage to bowling this way?
Thumless one handed style requires good strength and physique of the arm and shoulders. 2 handed style has the help of the non bowling arm. So you can have more control and ability to manipulate the ball motion.
Are you a 1 handed thumbless bowler bruh?
Can i send you a video of my approach for you to critique?
Yes please bro. You can send me the videos thru my instagram instagram.com/_happybowler102_ 😀
@BowlismOutlaw I sent you 1 or 2 videos, and you never responded.
Is the knee brace because you plant and put stress on left hip and knee?
The hop and plant was painful for me. Taking more of a Kyle Troup approach.
Uhm...not really. I use the knee brace due to the strain in the knee tendons. It's due to the gym exercise not the bowling practice. By the way, I don't use it anymore :D You see: instagram.com/reel/CmwbTHZIOGx/
Just like you say, the hop and plant was painful for the knee. This is usually due to non-optimal sliding step. You can fix it by zooming into the timing and making the swing longer (for 2handed players).
I also ask myself why people hop and plant. I also experienced it. The answer might lie in their own interest or it's because the ball coming to the fouline faster than your foot, making you automatically (your brain does it) stop to finish the release though you are not ready to do it yet. So you need to make your timing later a bit so that your feet can reach the foul line earlier than your swing. With this in mind, your sliding step will have enough time to finish. I think I should make another video explaining about this what do you think?
@@BowlismOutlaw please do
Have you tried using a glove or do you know anyone that uses a glove bowling two handed?
No I haven’t tried it yet bit I saw some bowler did. You use gloves, Ardrasis?
Check this boy out bro. He’s using gloves instagram.com/bowlingbrady300?igshid=YWJhMjlhZTc=
@@BowlismOutlaw Thank you! You detailed explanation is so helpful
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What's your ball speed and is that measured at the camera or at your hand somehow?
I don’t measure it in the video Denman bro. Depending on the oil patten, If the ball hit the pocket with optimal carry. That’s the speed I want 😃
@@BowlismOutlaw good answer 😅🤣
Actually there was a time I always questioned myself why my ball speed was so slow. It’s mainly because:
1. I watch other bowlers’ video and compare my ball speed to theirs.
2. I missed the 10 pin so often due to overhooked shot.
But after fixing my timing and approach. I didn’t even think about ball speed 😄 anymore. Trust me bro, ball speed is such an illusion for most 2 handers when they start to learn.
@@BowlismOutlaw I'm just always curious about the delta an individual experienced. Not much the player vs player speed comparison. With some minor practice last time I was on the lanes I was seeing straight balls exceeding 12mph up 1mph and strike balls going 11+ instead of 10+.
More work to do on my personal timing. Just wondering how things worked for you is all.
Yeah, measuring ball speed can be tricky. The ball speed will vary based on their rolling phases on the lane. To define the carry, I think it should be the speed of collision with the pin. It's also affected by emotion of bowles :D
What's a Good Aggressive Bowling Ball to start with ,With this Two handed style of Bowling ?? Any Suggestions ???
Hi Chris. Good Aggressive Bowling Ball? What do you mean by Good? Can you elaborate for more details?
Hey Outlaw !! Ok .. I'm looking for a Asymmetric Ball with alot of Backend action Like the " Hammer Jet Black Taboo " .. a Bowling ball that has the similarities as a Hammer " Jet Black Taboo " ..Not to mention I'm a Lefty ( Southpaw) as well ...I was told use Lefty's have a Natural Hook that Right -Handed players don't have ..... Is that true ??
tip: shorten your first 2 steps
Perfect tip! Thank you bro 👍