Singapore vs Germany - Rollei35
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2021
- Hi All,
In todays video we have not one but two Rollei35! after enjoying using my Rollei35 Clare has purchased here own!
I have only ever used my own! so it was great fun to have a look at the difference between these two cameras! one is from Singapore and the other from Germany! although made only five years apart!
If you have any questions about these cameras feel free to drop me a comment and ill get back to you!
I have a few other Rollei35 videos too! check them out at these links!
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i actually got into tinkering with these a few years back,
one thing i noticed, certain singapore ones are actually better, the 600xxx and later-ish ones come with a metal advance gear as opposed to the plastic ones used prior.
that one plastic gear is prolly the one weakness as it tends to strip and break over time causing the advance to get stuck.
one of my faves for sure.
great video!
Looking for one now. Appreciate the heads up on the metal gear!
Thanks for the incredibly detailed overview. Found mine in my pops old stuff and currently waiting for the first roll to develop.
This weekend I found a german 1968 Rollei 35 in a 3-camera package on a flea market in Mexico. It has the original leather case, lens cap, manual but also... the bill! It has the freaking original bill from 1968 (12-payment ending in 1969). I still can't believe it. Got it for 600MXP (30 US dollars). This has to be the flea market finding of my life.
Oh really! I’d be really interested to know what the price was on the original bill!
Amazing find!!
@@Goughie I've tried to calculate. According to mexican inflation calculator it says from 1969 to 2021 in mexico, inflation went a staggering 999605.65% (mexican peso became worthless a few decades back) so I'm not too sure how accurate this is. $2520MXP in 1969 are 24 million MXP in today's money, which is 1.2 million dollars from 2022. Minimum salary back in 1969 was 480 pesos a month, that would have taken between 5 and 6 months of a whole minimum wage to buy that camera in Mexico.
Doing the math a different way leaving out our **** inflation, 1 dollar was worth 0.01250 pesos in 1969, so that would be 2016USD from 1969, in today's money that is 16,071USD which is, in my opinion a better way to compare. Staggering numbers. I saw the bill, it contains the address of the person who bought it, definitely a high class neighborhood in Mexico City back then, certainly a rich man bought it, which by the way, took good care of all the equipment (got the bills for a couple more cameras too, although not as old, 1979 and 1989). I think I can make a reddit post on this if you are interested, uploading pictures and everything.
Sub'd by the way :) keep it up!
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Thank you for that! Clearly took a lot of time! I think I’ve read that initially these were pretty expensive! And that tailed off a lot over time!
Surprisingly iconic in the day too, Queen Elizabeth and the royal family here in the U.K. were frequently seen with them!
@@Goughie You're welcome, good sir!
I saw a couple weeks ago (probably on facebook) a post with some beautiful pictures of HRH Queen Elizabeth using a Leica, I didn't know she used a Rollei too! I searched and it was the golden one. Amazing.
Love the photos here! Makes me wanna go out and shoot mine! Beautiful lil brick that shoots perfectly when you know how to zone focus and sunny 16
Great review! I currently own a Singapore 35 Sonnar and a German 35 Tessar. They both feel and handle incredibly well, the only thing I noticed is that the German 35 seems to have a better glass for the viewfinder window, things look a bit clearer and sharper through the viewfinder compared to the Singapore 35 Sonnar.
Great video! Wasn't expecting that kind of quality coming out of such a tiny camera body!
I have been using the Rolei 35 cameras since they were first introduced. I currently have 3 of them that are mr carry/travel cameras-- one 35D with rge Sonnar lens and 2 of the 35T's with the Tessar lens. I also have a 35B with a Triotar lens and a made in Singapore S, neither of which work. The Singapore Rollei is the only 35 with which J have I have ever had issues. The polycarbonate back will flex and the flash sometimes will not fire and the film advance locked up. Optically, all of the Roleis are excellent! Good review!
Great video, these are nice shots.:)
Interesting video. I would definitely like to get a Rollei 35. In the meantime, I recently picked up for $20 USD a Voigtlander Vito BL, which in many ways is comparable to the Rollei 35. It is only slightly larger if at all. It is a zone focusing camera like the Rollei and has an excellent selenium meter that works perfectly and is dead on. The viewfinder is 100% so you can compose with both eyes open. Cool! It also has the great 50mm Voigtlander Color Skopar lens. This is a four element Tessar design. Typically for Tessars, at f5.6 and smaller lens opening, it is incredibly sharp. At the time of the production of this camera, Zeiss was the majority owner of Voigtlander which from my understanding is the oldest optical firm in the world and had a great reputation. So, the quality was certainly there. In fact, many people believe that the Zeiss Tessar and the Voigtlander Color Skopar are the same lens just made in different factories. As evidence of this, when Zeiss took over the Icarex SLR project from Voigtlander in 1960s, Zeiss rebranded all the Voigtlander lenses as Zeiss lenses. The Color Skopar was rebranded as a Zeiss Tessar. If a Rollei 35 is out of your price range, look for a Voigtlander Vito. You can pick them up for a song. Usually, a seller thinks they are broken and will price accordingly. That is why I bought mine so cheaply. Sellers who are not knowledgeable on the camera, are not able to get the camera to cock by the film advance because they are not aware that you have to have film in the camera for it to work. I bought mine from one of the largest camera stores in the state so you would expect them to be knowledgeable. They had three Vitos and listed every single one as broken. Every single one worked perfectly when I opened the cameras and advanced the film sprocket gear as if film was in the camera. BTW, your significant other got an excellent deal.
I have the Rollei B 35 with the Zeiss Triotar 40mm 3.5 lens. It has a built in uncoupled selenium light meter.
Made in Singapore. I haven't tried it out yet. It works perfectly.
Hi Goughie, Than you for your reply. I feel stupid ! but you opened up my eyes !!! I stopped really shooting 2 years ago and have not shot at say 3 ft F4 at 35mm since an internity. Just picked up my Nikon 7000 and….bingo ! got the answer ! sorry I even questioned you !
No worries at all! You’re right it’s all because of the super close distance, and f4 on a full frame sensor has enough of an effect! Thank you for watching
Great video! My local camera shop has one is very good condition for $450.00 U.S. I just don’t feel like I can justify the cost of film and processing when I can shoot with my Fuji X100V or Ricoh GRiii and am not really incurring any additional cost. I can then download to my iPad Pro and edit the images and be done.
That’s very steep, I wouldn’t pay that either. I bought both of mine combined for cheaper! Seem like many people manage to find them pretty cheap! The 2nd one we bought was about £120 from what I can remember!
Two great cameras there! Although not a very like for like comparison. It’s like saying I’d rather take the photo on my phone in the Adobe app, and not have to download the images or import them, and save the cost of the Griii and call it done. Film prices process wise have gone a little mad, developing myself makes it about £1 to dev, and my time in terms of scanning
My granddad would have touches that Rollei made in Singapore..back in the 70s
Just picked up the 35s can't wait to shoot film
Lovely camera! You’ll love it
which model do u recommend ? 35 /35s /35SE?
Can any one recommend a person to service the camera the light meter in particular looks lose in my camera. Many thanks Robin
The Rollei 35 is a joy to use. If it had a 28mm lens on it, I don't think I'd use anything else
Coooor! Imagine if they had actually made 28mm version! I agree that would have been perfect!
Perhaps one day rollei28
Hey man, I bought a Roller 35S after watching this video.
I'm pretty happy with the results of my first B&W film roll but now I'm getting strange light meter readings.
The needle moves like crazy when I point the camera to dark or bright backgrounds, and stays down most of the time, it only stays in the middle when I point the sky.
Do you know if this could be battery?
Thank you!
There is no reason to prefer a German made Rollei over one made in Singapore. A majority of the Tessar/Xenar lensed versions were made in Germany along with a few of the first 35S models. Nearly all of the Sonnar models, 35S, were made in Singapore, along with arguably the best of all, the 35SE and 35TE, also the 35LED. I borrowed a German 35 for years, but finally bought my first new in 1982 or so, mainly because Rollei had stopped production, and I was afraid I would be unable to buy a new one. I ended up having to buy a 35S "Anniversary" model, perhaps the ugliest Rollei 35 ever made, but it was incredibly sharp. Also, it's limited edition status made is highly desired in the Japanese collectibles market, so I resold it for 2.5 times what I paid for it. I later bought a used 35SE, which I still have and use, then a "new in the box" 35SE from a lot found in a photo store when it went out of business. Recently, bought a near new 35S in a package with other items I wanted. I will need to disassemble the top end and repair the meter, just to have everything working fine with a modern battery. I bought a Contax T2 years ago, which is redundant with the Rolleis. I think I'll sell off the T2, given the absurd prices being paid for them these days.
I don’t blame you selling off the Contax T2, I’d love to own one but at today crazy prices there so many other cameras I’d rather shoot!
There seems to be a very strong following for these Rollei and it’s really easy too see why! I worry that these cameras might head the way of the T2s if any celebrities or bigger UA-camrs start endorsing them too much!
@@Goughie IMO, not so much, for a couple of reasons. (1) There are literally thousands of them lying around. There are too many of them available to create a price bubble like for the T2. (2) The Rollei 35 requires that you work for a living. No hipster is going to buy a Rollei 35 as much for jewelry as anything, then admit they haven't a clue how to make it work. An XA or Mju doesn't impose a learning curve by comparison. Of course, within the Rollei 35 fraternity, there are a few models which have some collectible preference, like the Silver Anniversary I had or its more rare Gold alternative, or even the Xenar lensed version. (Note that the Xenar lens version of the German 35 exists only because there were a few times Zeiss couldn't keep up its supply of Tessars, so Rollei shopped the Schneider knock-off of a Tessar to keep the production flowing. It offers no optical advantage or determent.).
I've had two of these and I hate them lol. Gear broken, got it replaced with steel and never liked zone focusing. Nice travel camera though
I just picked one up yesterday! A very timely video 😂
Oh awesome! Have you used it yet?!
@@Goughie just shot some Portra on the way home and trying out low light conditions for cat photos! Looking forward to shooting slide with it soon, though.
@@BillyHopscotch ahh! So cool! I hope it goes well! shooting slide film aye! I’ve got a roll of Provia I need to send away for developing!
Do you guys see any difference with the viewfinders? I read that around 1970 they were switched from 0.8x magnification to 0.62x. Thank you for the reviews. Will definitely be referencing again when mine arrives!
You know what, I’ve never noticed if I remember next time they are together I’ll check!
@@Goughie I just got mine! The serial number is a few thousand later than your "Made in Germany" one. If my eyes and methodology are sound, it looks like it has a 0.8x viewfinder. And no parallax correction marks. From the manual, the marks are to help with framing subjects closer than 5 feet or they might be off centre. That would have been nice to have. There certainly are a lot of things to remember to do before pressing the shutter!
I want one so bad! Do you think the IQ is better than the Olympus XA?
Thanks for doing this. I’d been wondering about the “Singapore” listings on eBay. Seems like the right one for me. I mean Singapore, if anything, rivls Germany as far as quality control I’d imagine. If I don’t have a battery right away I could just ignore the light meter and still be able to take photos right? Been years since I used film, but I’m so tired of using a cellhone to take photos and digital seems so boring to me. Plus I just love the idea of waiting for that anticipatory surprise of photos from the pharmacy photo lab experience again! Hust one more question too…I like the idea of a half frame camera, as I’m poor, and in the old days as a kid I just had a point and click 110 camera..is there any half frame camera that you would recommend? Liked the channel…subscribed.
Half frame loads of people use the Olympus Pen cameras, I haven’t tried half frame myself, thank you for watching!
Oh also, does this accept filters? Like if I had a start filter or colors or a polarizing filter is there a way to attach them and size that works?
@@sesa2984 the front of the lens is threaded, the filters are tiny
I got the Rollie 35s and I paid £27.00 for it from a charity shop in London and it got original camera case and lens cap and strap strap and it works well
Perfect! What a find that was!
What a steal!
I was at a pawn shop and asked the owner if he had any old film cameras. He brought out a big crunched up cardboard box filled helter skelter with great classic cameras like Zeiss folders and Robot cameras. At the bottom, was a beautiful Rollei 35 in the case with the Sonnar lens. I knew I hit the jackpot. Dumb me, instead of offering him $50, I stupidly asked him how much. He immediately got on Ebay and announced - $500. GRRRRRR. Lucky you on your great find!!! For me it is still "Sometime over the Rainbow!"
I have one made in Germany (Tessar) and two made in Singapore ( s-Xenar) and all three have feet on the top not meters.
Great stuff! Check the weight Germany 360g and Singapore 305g and guess what the savings were…
This comments intrigued me! I’d never realised a weight difference in use! So I just put them both on the scales and they are 21g different
The German models are absolutely not made slightly better. There is no difference. However they tooled and trained the folks in Singapore for those production run was flawless. Moreover, I actually slightly prefer the S-Xenar rendering even over the Sonnar of early German varieties, which is even more notable because I rarely-to-never shoot these cameras wide open unless absolutely necessary.
The very early Germany made rollei (with metal rewind crank base plate) have no plastic gears/rachet, all the internal transmission parts are made from brass/steel. Those parts were replaced by plastic substitute in later (germany) version. One of my eraly rollei with a serial of 30105XX has full metal parts, but another one Nr.30614XX is equipment with plastic gears, even it's considered to be an 'early' germany model, which has a squre lock lever rather than a 'V' shaped one used in later version. The German models are absolutely made better but this is limited to very early models(~ first 10k).
Ricoh gr film camera is also a nice one
Yes! They are lovely little cameras!
@@Goughie got the digital one and all the rollei 35. The led 35 and the 35 s in black and silver and some more. I think I’m going to sell some
@@ronbokje6213 sounds like a fun collection though!
Hi, Thank you for doing this, I have the Singapore one that my father bought in the 80’s or so. I love it as long as I don’t have to shot with a flash on it. I cannot begin to guess what video camera you are using but one thing bothers me and leads me to ask “how did you make the background that much out of focus ?” I don’t think you’re using a green bckgd. You must be using some artificial means to achieve this but it is disturbing (to me anyway) You’re not using a super strong sport telephoto, the out of focus is even all thru-out the shots…..I’m puzzled !! out of focus zones don’t just go out like that or do you disagree with me ??
I’ve been using all sorts of cameras through a good 60 years of professsional work. But whatever it is I’m not critisizing you, just questioning ! Thanks for your work and time.
Sony A7iii with a 16-35mm F4 lens, nothing too odd here, and I also don’t have a green screen
Why do you need batteries 🤔
Can it not work without battery
My light metre has since died; battery is only for the metre, sunny 16 is east enough
@@Goughie alright thanks 👍 May I ask what price is it now? 2 years ago on eBay it was 130 right... I'm from India, I don't think I can get this camera in India. My sister is in Milton Keynes and coming here in a couple of months thinking of getting one from the UK where else can I search for other than eBay.. TIA
@@johnny_bravo9990 we have two both bought under £140
@@Goughie Where do I search other than eBay... U r not selling one are you 🙊
@@johnny_bravo9990 eBay was where we founds ours! im not selling mine! not sure I ever will!
Mines from Singapore but it is feet on the top and meters on the bottom 🤷🏻♂️
Oh interesting! I wonder if it’s based on a year then instead!
Did a overhaul recently and the dude flipped the focus ring so that the top shows meters instead of feet
@@throwingstones96 are you based in the U.K.? I’d be interested to know where you had it overhauled!
@@Goughie No there's this guy here in South Korea that does overhauls for these tiny cameras as a side gig
Crazy how cheap it is to get your cameras fix here
Mine costed about 110$ and the dude replaced the light meter cell and modded the camera with a voltage regulator to accept a normal 1.35 alkaline battery
@@throwingstones96 ahhh! I see! Sounds perfect though!
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heh many of made in Singapure stay in good condition and many sellers know that so thay try to sold totally destroyed camera in big price only becouse of made in germany XD
This is the same product with same glas, same material. Main difference is mark singapure or germany. And about metric on lens, someone in Singapure know wchich metring system is more obwious for Europe
Not entirely true though when it comes to same materials, there’s far more plastic inside the Singapore ones, as someone else pointed out in the comments I weighed both cameras and the difference was noticeable.
And which metering system seems to vary by year too!
I think it all might be more date than location dependant, the newer the design the cheaper the internals
My Rollei chews up the film, I hate this camera.