God of War Ragnarok - Kratos Meets Odin + Thor

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  • @ulyssesocounter8488
    @ulyssesocounter8488 Рік тому +362

    When Odin says Baldur was “his best tracker” without even mentioning the fact that he was his son, you get to know everything you really need to know about the guy.

    • @Darkstar263
      @Darkstar263 Рік тому +39

      Also that he didn't care at all that Thor's sons Magni and Modi were dead. Saying it was "Self defence". And calling them useless.

    • @jesuschrystler777
      @jesuschrystler777 Рік тому +43

      @@Darkstar263 basically insulting Thor the whole time and calling him boring for trying to be sober, when his drunkenness is what caused him to abuse his own sons. They wrote their relationship brilliantly in such a short scene.

    • @jameshawkins6619
      @jameshawkins6619 Рік тому +3

      @@jesuschrystler777kind of like Tony Soprano and Chris Moltisanti.

    • @austinhodge3726
      @austinhodge3726 Рік тому +1

      How can he be odins best tracker, when he has lost all but two of his senses?

    • @rikelizki1965
      @rikelizki1965 Рік тому +1

      Himdal is also odins son but you don’t even get a hint that the cares for him

  • @jedblack7234
    @jedblack7234 Рік тому +1224

    It's almost like a sitdown between two mob bosses with their right hands. Odin is so charismatic and manipulative that you almost believed he's being honest.

    • @pedrorosa9893
      @pedrorosa9893 Рік тому +62

      Because he believe his lies.

    • @jedblack7234
      @jedblack7234 Рік тому +65

      @@pedrorosa9893 Yeah, until you remember all the horrible things he's done.

    • @ad1t553
      @ad1t553 Рік тому +68

      @@jedblack7234 if we compare odin to Zeus, odin look more honest compare to Zeus, which saying a LOT about how hedious Zeus are.

    • @jedblack7234
      @jedblack7234 Рік тому +74

      @@ad1t553 Yeah, it shows that Odin is a silver-tongued god. While Zeus is more of a brute.

    • @juliane.mfarias9285
      @juliane.mfarias9285 Рік тому +66

      @@ad1t553
      Odin decieves people into believe him and trust him and then stabs them in the back.
      Zeus takes what he wants, by force most of the time. He decieve little. He dosent stabs people in the back, but in the face.

  • @garretthildebrandt428
    @garretthildebrandt428 Рік тому +181

    The details make this _soooo_ good.
    Thor, a self-proclaimed “Destroyer” and wants Kratos hide on a platter, asks to come in. Brings mead, yet doesn’t drink it, as he’s a recovering alcoholic. You can see it on his face, he wants to sip, but won’t. He sits where Kratos beckons. Kratos _lets_ him come in. Never let’s his guard down, yet honors hospitality. Something the Norse & Greeks highly valued.
    Odin? He barges in, no invitation. Grabs a stool and seats himself at the head. Downs both glasses of mead poured for others, and starts running his mouth like he owns the place.

    • @frostyguy1989
      @frostyguy1989 Рік тому +26

      "I. AM IN. CONTROL!"
      Odin is the textbook definition of a control freak. He dictates terms, tries to make others dances on his strings, react to him instead of vice versa. In the final scene where he impersonates Tyr, you see him seated at the head of the table, a sign of authority - though subtly you see Kratos at the other end of the table seemingly challenging him.

  • @TheVergile
    @TheVergile Рік тому +368

    Odin: “Okay Baldur. You are looking for a female giant. Long, blonde hair. Late 30s to early 40s. Melodic voice.”
    Baldur, seeing Kratos: “So you must be Faye”
    Also Odin: “He was my best tracker”

    • @MLaak86
      @MLaak86 Рік тому +43

      Well, that depends on if Odin knew who he was hunting down specifically vs just that it was a Giant - also Thor was apparently so wasted when he fought her that he didn't recall her appearance.

    • @meshiu2344
      @meshiu2344 Рік тому

      @@MLaak86 That must be the reason she lived. Thor was shit face wasted.

    • @dikachiobasi8225
      @dikachiobasi8225 Рік тому +9

      😂😂😂😂

    • @ExodiaX5
      @ExodiaX5 Рік тому +3

      @@MLaak86 True but Odin should have known better. Y'now, All-Father (All-Fucker, All-Bastard), has those Ravens EVERYWHERE? So somewhere Odin either fucked up and gave the wrong info, or deliberately sent Baldur on a Goose Chase

    • @MLaak86
      @MLaak86 Рік тому +4

      @@ExodiaX5 Well Mimir and others do point out Odin's not actually as all knowing as he portrays himself as being.

  • @theWn123
    @theWn123 Рік тому +256

    I love how Odin doesn’t care his grandsons are dead and is only upset about Baldur because he was a good tracker. His love for people, even his own family, is purely based on how useful they are to him.

  • @Don10451
    @Don10451 Рік тому +431

    I like how Odin sent in his enforcer to assess the situation before going in himself.

    • @MrJustonemorevoice
      @MrJustonemorevoice Рік тому +40

      His two ravens went in as well to oversee

    • @Legba85
      @Legba85 Рік тому +4

      His enforcer with a jug of mead. Excellent ice breaker

    • @MrJustonemorevoice
      @MrJustonemorevoice Рік тому +3

      @@Legba85 You'd think a man of Thor's size would carry more mead.

    • @couragew6260
      @couragew6260 Рік тому +11

      @@MrJustonemorevoice
      It’s heavily implied in many of Thor’s scenes that he is trying to go sober. He doesn’t drink any of the mead he poured (which annoys Odin).
      His daughter mentions him “breaking a promise” after she and Atreus find Thor drunk.
      There are implications in many conversations and cutscenes that his wife made him promise to go sober after beating his son, Modi, in a drunken rage, which gave Modi wounds so severe that Atreus easily killed him afterwards in the last game.
      Basically, Thor is trying to turn over a new leaf and be a better parent for his daughter after failing to be one for his two sons.
      Unfortunately, the death of his two sons and younger brother naturally hurt him, and wanting to be appreciated by his father, Odin, didn’t help as Odin doesn’t love Thor as his son but as a weapon to point at his enemies.
      Drinking, if anything, was just a toxic coping mechanism for all the horrible things Thor has done and lost in his attempts to gain Odin’s love.

    • @camerongreene3357
      @camerongreene3357 Рік тому +1

      @@MrJustonemorevoice considering he’s trying to stay sober and only brought the mead for them, it makes sense

  • @thefixer8765
    @thefixer8765 Рік тому +546

    This was fucking epic literally didn't expect Odin to be swearing. this whole scene felt like some mafia sit down or something
    LOVE IT

    • @Canyon_Storm
      @Canyon_Storm Рік тому +28

      Couldn’t have said it better, odin gives off major mob boss vibes

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 Рік тому +6

      @@Canyon_Storm glad I'm not the only one thinking like this

    • @jhondoe4526
      @jhondoe4526 Рік тому +2

      Or school principal, you know maybe atreus has problem in the school 😆

    • @TheWindstorm2012
      @TheWindstorm2012 Рік тому

      My thought exactly!

    • @seu_gouveia1774
      @seu_gouveia1774 Рік тому

      yeah , he does feel like an wallstreet CEO

  • @UndyingWladeslaus
    @UndyingWladeslaus Рік тому +344

    The moment Odin tried to sweeten the deal by mentioning the control of Freya, I feel like was a major tipping point for Kratos' decision. He has a lot of sympathy for her despite their current standing.

    • @kobayashi1194
      @kobayashi1194 Рік тому +32

      He says as much in his codex entry about Odin.

    • @codymcginley6823
      @codymcginley6823 Рік тому +3

      He understands exactly what she's going through

    • @Zoras88
      @Zoras88 Рік тому +24

      it wasn't just that. Odin was overselling. Putting in too much on his part for too little on Kratos's part.

    • @MLaak86
      @MLaak86 Рік тому +4

      @@Zoras88 Absolutely, the bargain being offered was seemingly almost solely in Kratos' favour... someone as distrustful as Kratos, especially having heard how untrustworthy Odin is, would instantly be suspicious about something clearly far too good to be true.

    • @Kamina.D.Fierce
      @Kamina.D.Fierce Рік тому +2

      Agreed. Hell, I feel like that WAS a major part of why he said no, because Odin may have just killed her or hurt her in some unknown way, and knowing Kratos doesn't want any such thing to befall her, him turning Odin down was also to protect her as much as it was him not letting the Norse gods tell him what to do or how to live.

  • @ctr1502
    @ctr1502 Рік тому +252

    I love how Kratos let's odin go off on his monologue. Loved the sound of his own voice.
    Then he just goes "No". 😂

    • @immortaljanus
      @immortaljanus Рік тому +20

      One might say his reply was a bit... Spartan.

    • @tarunpandey8339
      @tarunpandey8339 Рік тому +1

      This isn't the first time the Spartan general was on a negotiations table...

    • @0trov_
      @0trov_ Рік тому +2

      "Laconic speech"

  • @waghprasad
    @waghprasad Рік тому +833

    Well, Odin is exactly what I not expected him to be. I love it.

    • @JaketheJust
      @JaketheJust Рік тому +68

      I did. I was expecting Odin to be like Ian McShane’s Mr. Wednesday from American Gods. Richard Schiff was the best for the role of Odin

    • @angelosicat7350
      @angelosicat7350 Рік тому +75

      He was a manipulative mastermind. He made Thor slaughter his own people. And the way he deflected Sif, saying he isn't the reason his son is a raging alcoholic? Classic manipulator tactic. It's everyone's fault but me.

    • @datsuspicious
      @datsuspicious Рік тому +48

      Given how Thor is more accurately designed on how Norse Mythology described him, I’m actually pleased with Odin’s design also…, you see in other media as a well built old man with long beard, here you just know the guy’s not trust worthy the moment he step on screen, the guy spent his life trading for knowledge, hanging himself, manipulating people, you think he ever have the time or ever have the needs to gain muscle?, and just look at that big oversized cape wrapped over his fragile stick of a body to attempt at looking threatening and authoritarian, the dude try to look the part of being “All-Father” when he clearly doesn’t look threatening at first glance at all xD
      Amazing design I must say, when we are introduced to a god, they never look like what the stereotypical media present them to be, and I love it

    • @DeezNuts-gl6nx
      @DeezNuts-gl6nx Рік тому +14

      Bro wtf he legit looks like a history teacher

    • @draco_1876
      @draco_1876 Рік тому +2

      @@datsuspicious thor was actually a good guy in the mythology

  • @porkchopsuey12
    @porkchopsuey12 Рік тому +305

    Odin feels like a used car salesmen trying to convince you that buying a prius for the price of a mustang is a good idea and I'm all for it. Can't wait to play

    • @juliane.mfarias9285
      @juliane.mfarias9285 Рік тому +42

      "And thats how Odin decieve the Giants into buying a prius for the price of a Mustang"
      -4th Wall breaking drunk Mimir.

    • @OscarG787
      @OscarG787 Рік тому

      🤣🤣

    • @alienz8641
      @alienz8641 Рік тому +5

      That was exactly what I was thinking the moment I heard him talk. Small world, huh?

    • @ee-jm2tt
      @ee-jm2tt Рік тому +2

      Honesty for me it gave off scammer vibes, which I guess would be the same thing

  • @didjargo
    @didjargo Рік тому +42

    Before Odin appeared, I had anticipated him being this muscular and large imposing figure. Then we see this frail looking balding old man who speaks softly. But the way he commands the room, the way that Thor of all deities acts submissive around him, the fact that he introduces himself with "you know who I am". This Odin is very intimidating in ways that Kratos has not faced before.

  • @rygornspectre7142
    @rygornspectre7142 Рік тому +386

    Thor's Mother was a Giant while Odin is Half-Giant, Half-Aesir.
    This makes Thor 75% Giant and 25% Aesir which explains his towering stature. However, Thor, like his half brother Baldur, still considers himself a full Aesir God depsite his heritage.

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- Рік тому +24

      Or he just happens to be big. Loki is half giant too (in these games) but he doesn’t seem proportionally big next to kratos)

    • @gudboah4688
      @gudboah4688 Рік тому +21

      It’s probably why Thor is so depressed throughout the game. Odin pretty much had him genocide his own kind.

    • @goroakechi6126
      @goroakechi6126 Рік тому +25

      @@Getwright-
      Yeah, God of War giants aren’t always big. Some are, but the ones we meet, not so much.

    • @jakubriz7369
      @jakubriz7369 Рік тому +3

      @@gudboah4688 Not really. Not to spoil too much but Thor calls Atreus a Jotunn in a hateful tone before he almost smashes his head in, and gloats about killing Giants when he's drunk.

    • @limarien6405
      @limarien6405 Рік тому

      Idk where that even came from. In the mythology his mother is Frigg so he was only 25% Jotunn. Also, the Jotunns weren't all giants.

  • @carltonblair6710
    @carltonblair6710 Рік тому +101

    Seeing kratos reach for his axe at Scene 6:32 reminds me of one of his lessons:
    (1)expect the worst
    (2)assume nothing
    (3) and ALWAYS anticipate an attack

    • @trihermawan9553
      @trihermawan9553 Рік тому +9

      Plus when it comes to Atreus's safety, he really don't take any risk

    • @husk3715
      @husk3715 Рік тому +11

      He does it again at 7:48 again for atreus

    • @brainrich1358
      @brainrich1358 Рік тому +1

      He doesn't care what happens to himself, when it comes to Atreus' safety he won't hold back

    • @TheHighborn
      @TheHighborn Рік тому +1

      I like how Kratos looks at Atreus like... *wtf bro*

    • @herpderp3916
      @herpderp3916 Рік тому

      @@husk3715 The moment Odin laid a hand on Atreus, Kratos was ready to kill him then and there.

  • @goroakechi6126
    @goroakechi6126 Рік тому +433

    Ok, this is the most accurate interpretation of Thor and Odin in a LONG time.
    Thor’s a beserker. He only cares about partying and fighting. The fact his second line in the series is “I have mead”, like that’s gonna convince Kratos, is just amazing.
    Odin’s the actual trickster god. Always skittish, and very much willing to fool and kill anyone to preserve himself.

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 Рік тому +36

      As a Swede i am immensely happy to finally see a good adaptation of my cultures old gods

    • @MrJustonemorevoice
      @MrJustonemorevoice Рік тому +6

      Wotan was a god of knowledge first, and one who frequently wore disguises to get the measure of others.

    • @MrImastinker
      @MrImastinker Рік тому +12

      Well, the main difference being that in the myths Odin and Thor are defenders of humanity.
      Decidedly not the case here.

    • @MrJustonemorevoice
      @MrJustonemorevoice Рік тому +25

      @@MrImastinker Also to my knowledge Odin wasn't one to constantly and loudly blame others for his own failings.
      I will happily call this version "Evil Odin"

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 Рік тому +30

      @@MrJustonemorevoice In the Eddas Oden actually takes a pretty antagonistic role alot of the times. The lying, cheating, danger and oath breaking is all there. You have to remember my culture didn't operate under a modern Christian moral compass

  • @thatguyknownaswill8180
    @thatguyknownaswill8180 Рік тому +56

    If you notice, Thor doesn’t drink any of his mead because he is trying to stop drinking for Thrud, and when Odin says “you’re no fun anymore” he is referring to Thor not drinking, hence the line later “I liked you better as a drunk”

    • @matthewriley7826
      @matthewriley7826 9 місяців тому

      @Jaegar19UltimaAnd also might explain some of his more evil actions in the first game as drunken stupidity

  • @Jknight416
    @Jknight416 Рік тому +81

    I find it more nerve racking that Odin sound like a calm and reasonable god. But then you remember the all the stories of what he did to the giants in the previous game.

    • @Freethinker_94
      @Freethinker_94 Рік тому +2

      It's called knowing time and place for everything

    • @rodolfosanchez3397
      @rodolfosanchez3397 Рік тому +16

      I think thats the point, he is so charismatic and manipulative that you can almost believe that he is being honest.

  • @cliffmacrodic7776
    @cliffmacrodic7776 Рік тому +283

    The sons of Odin are suprisely polite for gods and Thor seems very nice guy

    • @juliane.mfarias9285
      @juliane.mfarias9285 Рік тому +88

      A calm and reasonable people.

    • @OscarG787
      @OscarG787 Рік тому +51

      Calm before the storm my friend, calm before the storm. 😈

    • @misssincere5762
      @misssincere5762 Рік тому +8

      Who kills people. Thor seems to be a nice guy who kills people. Innocent people.

    • @keithstone8693
      @keithstone8693 Рік тому +2

      As we’ve seen from Tighten (Megamind. Underrated movie),
      There’s a big difference between a good man, and a nice guy.
      They’re using that external charm to aid them in manipulating people.. at least Odin is. Thor is just a loose cannon/hammer that kills what odin points to.
      And sometimes on a whim when he’s bored. Or drunk. Or spiteful.

    • @Devilsfan118
      @Devilsfan118 Рік тому +1

      His redemption arc is fantastic. Could've just been the brutal murderous animal character but he was so much more.

  • @sweetfunnycake2100
    @sweetfunnycake2100 Рік тому +167

    "A choice from the gods, is as useless as the gods themselves" - Kratos(GOW 2)

    • @Michaentus
      @Michaentus Рік тому +4

      Its promise not not choice

    • @lithiumpistol2897
      @lithiumpistol2897 Рік тому +11

      @@Michaentus I don't think kratos wants a god promise *cough athena

    • @Michaentus
      @Michaentus Рік тому

      @@lithiumpistol2897 Its the quote mate

    • @ythandlename
      @ythandlename Рік тому +1

      Kratos is full of badass quotes. "ZEUS, YOUR SON HAS RETURNED AND I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS!"

    • @matthewriley7826
      @matthewriley7826 9 місяців тому

      @@MichaentusExcept a promise from Odin is even more useless than a choice.

  • @th3m1st0cl3s
    @th3m1st0cl3s Рік тому +74

    Odin: watches Thor love and thunder
    Odin: "You're no fun anymore.''

    • @ee-jm2tt
      @ee-jm2tt Рік тому +7

      How I felt about the MCU during phase 4

    • @doomrage2012
      @doomrage2012 Рік тому

      Stop reference the marvel, you marvel stupid

  • @Sag3brush
    @Sag3brush Рік тому +45

    (some spoilers)
    I love how you can infer so much from the way Odin treats Thor in his scenes. Like in this one, where he states that Thor "is no fun anymore," simultaneously belittling the deaths of Thor's sons and belittling Thor's efforts to stop drinking. He also belittles Thor later on in the game, when Thor says "what could I have ever taught him (atreus)" Odin replies with "exactly." Odin consistently belittles Thor's intelligence and usefulness, to the point where Thor does it to himself, at least when Odin is around. Odin probably does this as a manipulation tactic, aiming to keep Thor in line by sabotaging his self esteem when necessary and rewarding him with praise occasionally to keep him doing what Odin wants.

  • @littlecousin5630
    @littlecousin5630 Рік тому +14

    Two things:
    When Thor says “you could have told me before I poured,” he meant that he poured a drink for Atreus and Kratos. Not for himself. He’s trying to stop drinking. That’s why he dips his fingers in the mead, smells it, but never actually drinks it, because of the promise he made to Thrud and Sif. The fact that he’s unable to keep that promise later on really puts the statement “we got a model father here” in the boss fight in a different light.
    When Odin says “you’re no fun anymore,” he’s referring to the fact that Thor refuses to drink.
    It seems that having Odin as a father would drive anyone to drink.

  • @itzfrenchieboy661
    @itzfrenchieboy661 Рік тому +199

    The way Thor introduced himself that was badass

  • @hush7359
    @hush7359 Рік тому +66

    The fact that odin and thor had to come knock on Kratos's door and tell him that they don't want smoke is actually badass and kinda funny

    • @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger
      @TheWarchiefZekeJaeger Рік тому +1

      "They don't want the smoke"? Thor was the "fire", my guy, guy was itching for a fight and was just wating for Odin's order.

  • @anangryninja2824
    @anangryninja2824 Рік тому +27

    6:37 You don’t even need to know what Kratos is thinking. That turn is what every parent does when they find out their kid has been doing stuff behind their back.

  • @jhondoe4526
    @jhondoe4526 Рік тому +142

    I love odin, he can be example especially for youngs, what bad people in reality is,
    evil people is not about big scary appearance but how person talks and motives move,
    People with odin attitude are many in politics and business, so thats kind people for youngster will deal in future.

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 Рік тому +8

      Sadly yes. These are the most insidious and perhaps a greater evil in real life

    • @brainrich1358
      @brainrich1358 Рік тому +1

      The Devil has been portrayed like that in media for years. He's not a big red demon with horns, he's a con artist with a silver tongue. He tricks people to do things for him or give him what he wants.

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 Рік тому +1

      @@brainrich1358 CON artist yoy say

  • @henry3k90
    @henry3k90 Рік тому +62

    I just realized Thor was obstaining from drinking because he wants to over come his drinking problem. That's why Odin told him he's no fun anymore, Thor is still trying to improve in that area of his life. Im pretty He used to beat his kids..

    • @DTheCritical
      @DTheCritical Рік тому +9

      At lest Modi maybe Magni and probably not Thrud as that'd the child he has with Sir and he seems to genuinely love Sif

    • @daryno9048
      @daryno9048 Рік тому +2

      @@DTheCritical Modi and Magni were her kids too, Sif was talking about how they would tell them stories when trying to convince Thor that they have to kill Atreus

    • @DTheCritical
      @DTheCritical Рік тому +4

      @@daryno9048 She did not have them as Mimir said Magni and Modi had different mothers but she still helped raise them and considered them her own

  • @MidnightWanderer
    @MidnightWanderer Рік тому +204

    Lol, as soon as Odin stated Tyr is dead, after pointing out Atreus looking for him and wanting him to stop, automatically means he's still alive. Even someone never following this series up to now can see that. Pure cap Odin.🧢

    • @timothykalio157
      @timothykalio157 Рік тому +15

      Well you’re about to be very disappointed 😊

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- Рік тому +3

      Yeah but even death can die when you’re dealing with gods (Didn’t Odin die at one point and come back more powerful in the norse myths)

    • @spicydomina2365
      @spicydomina2365 Рік тому +3

      Odin is trying to prevent Ragnarok so if Tyr's existence leads to it then he would hide it and destroy it as best he can or control it to stop it

    • @josephstalin2606
      @josephstalin2606 Рік тому +7

      @@timothykalio157 No he’s not 😊 when you beat the game check Niflheim

    • @Zoras88
      @Zoras88 Рік тому +1

      What was really suspicious, was that he was offering a lot for someone to just stay at home after they killed his boy and grandsons.

  • @krajicsek13
    @krajicsek13 Рік тому +23

    And people were upset about this unit of a man because he didn't looked like Chris Hemsworth's Thor

    • @StillWeRide
      @StillWeRide Рік тому +10

      Right!?? This design is so much better...the huge strong man frame..thor is so badass in this

    • @herpderp3916
      @herpderp3916 Рік тому +2

      I like that this Thor shows both power and struggle at the same time. He's a fire-haired bear of a man, but his eyes are sunken and his hair is messy and hangs in his face. Odin's clearly beaten him down, but he's still an incredibly strong, formidable enemy.

    • @Caine61
      @Caine61 9 місяців тому

      Chris Hemsworth Thor is a joke

  • @blue-eclipse9365
    @blue-eclipse9365 Рік тому +111

    Not for nothing but in legend this is exactly what Odin is like. Just thought I’d put it out there

    • @MrAcuriteOf1337
      @MrAcuriteOf1337 Рік тому +11

      Just gotta wait for the inevitable Jackson Crawford video on the subject.

    • @blue-eclipse9365
      @blue-eclipse9365 Рік тому +3

      @@MrAcuriteOf1337 wdym

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb Рік тому

      @@blue-eclipse9365
      Jackson Crawford is, from what I recapped, a professor regarding the Old Norse language and mythology. Or a “language guy” as he himself put it.

    • @blue-eclipse9365
      @blue-eclipse9365 Рік тому

      @@myopiamlbb if you go to his channel where he covers every aspect of Norse Myth as well as Language and History

  • @duffinthemuffin5792
    @duffinthemuffin5792 Рік тому +15

    Oh that's iconic "if he tells you the snow is white he's lying!"

  • @quiet4372
    @quiet4372 Рік тому +9

    Notice how everytime Odin tries to talk about Atreus or even put his hand on his shoulder, Kratos reaches for the axe like instinctively such a good detail.

    • @matthewriley7826
      @matthewriley7826 9 місяців тому

      He knows Atreus is half giant, so Odin being a notorious giant killer has him understandably concerned.

  • @christophdavis5927
    @christophdavis5927 Рік тому +32

    With all due respect to Bear McCreary’s INCREDIBLE score but this scene is so much better without the score. The tension is genuine and guided by the character’s interactions. You can hear every breath, every grunt, and movement. You’re seizing up the characters just like they do each other in the scene. Waiting to see which one makes the wrong move.

  • @insertedgynamehere___969
    @insertedgynamehere___969 Рік тому +5

    The way Kratos says "no" is really funny to me

  • @mzytryck
    @mzytryck Рік тому +12

    What I love most about Odin's facade is he never overdoes it into trying to act like he's a completely good guy, or a completely harmless old duffer.
    He knows you'll have heard all the terrible stories about him so he doesn't pretend to be "nice" or "stupid" exactly, or directly contradict what's been said about him and thus put you in a position of having to choose whether to trust him or Mimir and Freya (a contest where obviously he'll lose), he just points out they've got reasons to hate him personally and then lets his extremely disarming demeanour do the rest of it.
    All the time Atreus was with him, despite Freya and Mimir's stories, despite the fact that dangerous killers like Thor and Heimdall obey him even though he treats them badly, and despite him never actually offering a justification for all the stories about him, I found it embarrassingly easy to let my guard down. When you've spent the first game expecting him to be the counterpart to Zeus, and instead of the powerfully-built, thunder-voiced lord of all he surveys you get this little weasel in a cloak that's too big for him and seems like his mind's constantly elsewhere, you can't help but underestimate him.

  • @adamconroy1006
    @adamconroy1006 Рік тому +9

    Thor almost sounds like Josh Brolin talking as Thanos

  • @bo0-621
    @bo0-621 Рік тому +6

    7:08 The moment Mimir sounded like Armstrong

  • @Irrelevant402
    @Irrelevant402 Рік тому +6

    Odin: So you're the asshole that keeps killing my birds!

  • @itzmedrnick
    @itzmedrnick Рік тому +8

    The details are great. Thor in this scene is trying to stay sober. To control himself, to get better. Later in the game he will relapse but here he is sober.
    Thor pours two glasses, one for Atreus and one for kratos (which is why he says “you could’ve told me” when kratos doesn’t let Atreus drink).
    Then Thor takes a big whiff, knowing he shouldn’t drink it. He puts his fingers in the drink and smears it on his hammer.
    When Odin comes he grabs the cup and aggressively places it in front of Thor. Odin doesn’t want Thor to change. He wants him to be weak. Thor refuses the cup his father offered him, foreshadowing his eventual refusal to listen to him at all, and him dying by the hands of his father.

  • @brainrich1358
    @brainrich1358 Рік тому +10

    The way Kratos is just staring down Thor, not letting him out of his sight for a split second, even when Thor towers over him. Kratos is just a legit badass.

  • @PaddyRoon7
    @PaddyRoon7 Рік тому +12

    Odin is like a Godfather. That calm but threatening tone is perfect.

  • @Whatacomedian_
    @Whatacomedian_ Рік тому +9

    The camera work in this scene is flawless. Everyone brought their A game to the performances, the animators just EVERYBODY. From a long seasoned gamer this experience was truly special.

  • @haziqhaziq5550
    @haziqhaziq5550 Рік тому +19

    Odin:-Your're in debt with us
    Kratos:-Oh you dont want that..

  • @johnboy1760
    @johnboy1760 Рік тому +42

    Odin is a master manipulator, there is no way he thinks saying, don’t do it to Atreus is going to work. He probably couldn’t find Tyr and he wants to use the ol’ don’t go to the elephant graveyard reverse psychology on them.

  • @JaketheJust
    @JaketheJust Рік тому +18

    Thor, beware the wrath of a calm and reasonable man. Abuse his calmness, be unreasonable, and you’ll find out how cruel he can be.

    • @henry3k90
      @henry3k90 Рік тому +1

      He finna wreck them like he did his father lol

  • @bernardosaldana9982
    @bernardosaldana9982 Рік тому +4

    Kratos's no is essentially the greek way of handling things
    They don't pick fights but when someone fucks with them they make sure by the end you ain't able to fuck around anymore

  • @Howlingburd19
    @Howlingburd19 Рік тому +23

    The voice acting and dialogue is dope! There’s no action until the very end of the meeting, but there’s still an uncomfortable amount of tension!

  • @EyeBeZombie
    @EyeBeZombie Рік тому +5

    2:49 the weight and noise of Mjolnir with the headphones on holy shit! Felt like my whole room vibrated XD

  • @cloneclone5341
    @cloneclone5341 Рік тому +8

    Odin feels like mafia boss or something, one that always have surprising plans

  • @someguy7723
    @someguy7723 Рік тому +11

    Thor having a great time having to play nice with his sons murderer and having to hear his dad roast them and him.. Dude has all kinds of pain in his eyes

  • @t-taka2905
    @t-taka2905 Рік тому +3

    Bro Thor made kratos look like a dwarf in this scene 2:10

  • @Takem
    @Takem Рік тому +24

    Thor really looks like a calm and reasonable person.

  • @TheMETALICA40
    @TheMETALICA40 Рік тому +3

    2:07 "I thought youd be bigger but youre definetly the one...."

  • @Kuuribro
    @Kuuribro Рік тому +12

    anybody notice that for a good deal of this cutscene, from when Odin stands up from the table, he is in KRATOS's position on screen?
    The camera follows Odin, not Kratos. It shows HIS back. He even moves to the left side and you're looking over his shoulder. He is the one in control, so much that he's taken your player camera and agency away from you immediately.

  • @FishAnvil
    @FishAnvil Рік тому +3

    7:49 Kratos puts his hand on his axe as soon as Odin touches Atreus' shoulder. Really fucking good detail right there.

  • @jailcatjones3250
    @jailcatjones3250 Рік тому +73

    Thor makes kratos look normal sized

    • @juliane.mfarias9285
      @juliane.mfarias9285 Рік тому +2

      Right!?

    • @hugo-pg5tv
      @hugo-pg5tv Рік тому +1

      Well kratos isn't that tall

    • @kingpin3714
      @kingpin3714 Рік тому +5

      @@hugo-pg5tv kratos is a the lowest 6,6 to 6,8 Thor has to be 8+ they’re huge bro

    • @Aech420
      @Aech420 Рік тому +3

      Kratos is canonically as confirmed by the developers to be 6'4

    • @lordescanor8232
      @lordescanor8232 Рік тому

      @@juliane.mfarias9285 he is 198 cm tall, thats tall my friend, but not for this game lmfo

  • @afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285
    @afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285 Рік тому +22

    why does odin sound like a mid western real-estate developer?

    • @phantomstranger7018
      @phantomstranger7018 Рік тому +5

      Because in the myths, he's actually like this. A hidden book inside a deceitful cover.

    • @grahfert3863
      @grahfert3863 Рік тому +1

      First person I've seen to point this out, everyone else is on their A Game and Odin sounds like he thought he was doing VA for GTA 6

  • @OscarG787
    @OscarG787 Рік тому +39

    This video gave me shivers. This games gonna be epic! 🤯

  • @toogee1850
    @toogee1850 Рік тому +2

    Kratos is just like damn bro I gotta fix the roof AGAIN?

  • @ToolsnTechvids
    @ToolsnTechvids Рік тому +3

    The acting in this scene is next level. Such a memorable moment!

  • @EXEcosmoman20
    @EXEcosmoman20 Рік тому +16

    i wont lie, i was actually happy thor was respectful and didnt fight kratos off the bat.

    • @henry3k90
      @henry3k90 Рік тому +1

      Makes him more human, more likable that way. Not like that stupid prideful Half brother of his lol

    • @AGuyNamedRobin
      @AGuyNamedRobin Рік тому +2

      Sacred Hospitality was important for norsemen.

    • @kakarotorgoku2481
      @kakarotorgoku2481 Рік тому

      @@AGuyNamedRobin which truly showed the differwnce between Odin and Thor. Thor entered and sat after being allowed in and to sit. Odin just kinda showed up and started blabbing off

  • @panchotz100
    @panchotz100 Рік тому +31

    Why did he refuse?
    Also it feels thor is a victim from odin's abuse and manipulation in the way he behaves

    • @osiah7869
      @osiah7869 Рік тому +5

      yep odin kills him

    • @awhikomene9011
      @awhikomene9011 Рік тому +22

      When something sounds too good to be true, always believe it

    • @osiah7869
      @osiah7869 Рік тому +1

      @@awhikomene9011 you’ll see

    • @osiah7869
      @osiah7869 Рік тому +6

      its also insane considering thor didnt kill them on sight after knowing magni was killed

    • @Calactic
      @Calactic Рік тому +23

      Remember what happened the last time he made a deal with Gods? Yup that's why. I also like to think he doesn't want to hurt Freya.

  • @Kamina.D.Fierce
    @Kamina.D.Fierce Рік тому +21

    7:07 It still amazes me that Kratos has been carrying Senator Armstrong on his hip all this time.

    • @bcgazero6472
      @bcgazero6472 Рік тому

      "Well if it isn't saucy odin..."

    • @Kamina.D.Fierce
      @Kamina.D.Fierce Рік тому

      @@bcgazero6472 Imagine if Armstrong actually met Odin. He'd probably kill him. Hell I bet he would actually like Kratos, though Kratos would think he's annoying lol

    • @bcgazero6472
      @bcgazero6472 Рік тому +1

      @@Kamina.D.Fierce dude would probably bring metal gear excelsus into asgard to fight odin,that or bring the winds of destruction and have sundowner fight thor

    • @Kamina.D.Fierce
      @Kamina.D.Fierce Рік тому +1

      @@bcgazero6472 You gotta admit that would be SO cool.

    • @bcgazero6472
      @bcgazero6472 Рік тому +1

      @@Kamina.D.Fierce true

  • @MrFitzonic
    @MrFitzonic Рік тому +4

    "My ex"
    why does he sound like a modern American jfc

    • @bcgazero6472
      @bcgazero6472 Рік тому +1

      Well,not that people at that time could actually speak english,but yeah

  • @makomachamp9647
    @makomachamp9647 Рік тому +3

    When Thor stood next to kratos and he towered over him I was like holy shit

  • @akhil108
    @akhil108 Рік тому +14

    Finally! Looking forward to more of your GoW videos!!!!

  • @Shadowkainine
    @Shadowkainine Рік тому

    Oh man, I've been looking forward to seeing this channel again!

  • @godofnorse
    @godofnorse Рік тому +8

    I like how Odin drink's from Thor's and Kratos cups of Mead to show them that he is the allfather

    • @jhondoe4526
      @jhondoe4526 Рік тому +2

      And angry at thor beacuse thor put his finger to the cup before,
      You know when odin said to thor after drink "youre not fun anymore" 😂

  • @ydeyscvbn5273
    @ydeyscvbn5273 Рік тому +4

    Thor seems so chill

  • @maelradec2017
    @maelradec2017 Рік тому +11

    Toby Zeigler as odin was no expected. But a good choice

    • @Aech420
      @Aech420 Рік тому

      Dude that's Richard Schiff

    • @maelradec2017
      @maelradec2017 Рік тому

      @@Aech420 Ik, Toby zeigler was a role he played, I just brought it up because the two roles seemed similar to a degree

  • @tylertriplett1323
    @tylertriplett1323 Рік тому +5

    Every scene with Thor reminds me so much of John Goodman, voice and appearance… I just can’t get it out of my head lol

  • @Darkstar263
    @Darkstar263 Рік тому +2

    I like how Kratos has become much wiser.
    He has experienced a lot of betrayals in the past by both the Gods and Titans back in Greece. So he is perfectly justified not to trust Odin.

  • @awesomeboy1151
    @awesomeboy1151 Рік тому +11

    Odin looks like the advisor from Total War Warhammer Trilogy

    • @Michaentus
      @Michaentus Рік тому +5

      I offer you ogres Kratos, isnt that what you want

    • @awesomeboy1151
      @awesomeboy1151 Рік тому +1

      @@Michaentus "No, I do not want Ogres. I want the Chaos Gods themselves."

  • @Nobodysurvivesevenonebit
    @Nobodysurvivesevenonebit Рік тому +16

    The meeting is intense

  • @jonh387
    @jonh387 Рік тому +9

    What you did to his Boys..
    ..self defence.
    From that moment I knew this scene is gonna be legendary

  • @awhikomene9011
    @awhikomene9011 Рік тому +5

    I’ve been waiting for this😍😍😍 so much better than I imagined

  • @kirche6545
    @kirche6545 Рік тому +1

    Finally, waiting for the 1 hr collection vids

  • @JonGreen91
    @JonGreen91 Рік тому +1

    4:45
    I was not expecting that build.

  • @azizalshatti2480
    @azizalshatti2480 Рік тому +2

    2:05 Kratos was like, you Big, fought Bigger 😑

  • @Dookieman1975
    @Dookieman1975 Рік тому +6

    This is how I expected The Boys version of Thor and Odin to turn out

  • @solortus
    @solortus Рік тому +2

    Kratos knew Odin just wanted to buy time since he already sent Baldur to target them

  • @osiah7869
    @osiah7869 Рік тому +2

    just saw this a few days ago but still shocks me

  • @Moonscentedhunter
    @Moonscentedhunter Рік тому +1

    The way that Atreus kinda wanted to run when he went to open the door for Odin.

  • @andrewburnes7648
    @andrewburnes7648 Рік тому +1

    One of the greatest scenes in gaming.

  • @kelvinsantiago7061
    @kelvinsantiago7061 Рік тому +2

    This kinda rinds me when my Dad and my Girlfriends Dad met for the first time.

  • @dragonballa5083
    @dragonballa5083 Рік тому +1

    If you ever hear someone say “Alright, here’s a deal I know you can believe in!” Just know that they DO NOT have your best interest in mind! They’ve planned, plotted, and formulated the words that they need to get what THEY want from YOU. 💯

  • @austa10
    @austa10 Рік тому

    Kratos: "No."
    And thus was said the best line in the game.

  • @MatheusLB2009
    @MatheusLB2009 Рік тому

    8:12 "A choice from the gods, is as useless as the gods themselves"

  • @attackontitanfollower
    @attackontitanfollower Рік тому +1

    1:17 kratos: who are you?!
    1:24 Thor: Shows his face and hammer
    Me (with double barrel shot gun at ready): if your with the government or the church get the F::: off my property, and what ever your sellin I ain’t buyin
    1:30 Thor: can I come in
    Me (shotgun): NO! Now go away!
    1:35 Thor: (shows mead) I have Mead.
    Me: I Don’t care, I Don’t want none and I didn’t ask for any Now LEAVE!
    1:39 kratos: You will not find me good company!
    1:41 Thor: oh
    1:44 Thor: I’m sure well find lots to talk about.
    Me: (Pumps shot gun) GET THE F::: OUT OF HEAR AWAY FROM MY HOUSE NOW!
    1:50 kratos (letting him in)
    Me: DUDE! Atreus don’t offer him anything and don’t take his coat!
    2:26 Thor: Nice place
    Me: Thanks but you aren’t welcome!
    2:30-3:32 me: This is civilizedly awkward!
    3:37 kratos: why are you here!
    Thor: just um being polite.
    Me: are you a Jehovah’s Witness?
    3:53 me: Sir please get your bird off my table!
    3:57 Thor: You seem like a calm and reasonable person.
    Me: Oh really?!
    4:06 Thor: Are you…. A calm and reasonable person?
    Me: does my facial reaction and double barrel shot shot gun in hand Answer your question?!
    4:26 (Door Knocks)
    Me: (gets another shotgun) Go away No one is Home!
    4:46 me: Who the F::: are you!?
    4:56 Odin: you know who I am?
    Me: i most certainly do no- HEY WHO SAID YOU COULD COME IN!
    5:27 (after hearing what he said) oh you mean the two hooligan monkeys that wanted to sell me crack yeah I warned them to leave!
    5:45 me: (after hearing the next accusation) hey that drunk scum bag pain killer addict was tress passing and attacked me and cause destruction around my house and property I mean look at what he did to my front yard he destroyed my precious trees and left a crack in the ground
    6:10 Odin: how about peace
    Me: ok fine sure! Just get off the premises immediately
    6:38 me: okay sure thing… Atreus stop looking for Tyr!
    7:40 Ummm… Your Ex?
    7:44 odin: Keep Freya off your back.
    Me: oh yes please do I can’t even go hunting for food with out that Drag Karen trying to release her menstrual fury and pardoning the blood of the red seas of her entitlement and her anger issues on my A:: that B::::!
    Atreus: she is just in her several stages grief about you killing her so-
    Me: SHUT UP ATREUS NO ONE ASKED YOU FOR YOUR OPINION! As I was saying so please help me put all those failed restraining orders I tried sending to the government 210 yards I kept asking
    8:00 so what do you say?
    Me: thank you so much you’ve got your self deal sorry about the shot guns I just didn’t tru-
    8:12 Kratos: No
    Me: BRAAA WHAT THE F::: KRATOS!

  • @glasshalffullofwhatever3106
    @glasshalffullofwhatever3106 Рік тому +4

    Odin....the businessman....

  • @notvonbayern9202
    @notvonbayern9202 Рік тому +2

    Odin, king of gods, allfather, greatest of the Aesir
    "You follow me?" *sips mead*

  • @itachisensei999
    @itachisensei999 Рік тому +7

    I believe thor and kratos could have been good friends

  • @labrat7382
    @labrat7382 Рік тому

    It doesnt feel the same without music.

  • @gamesArader
    @gamesArader Рік тому

    Getting this game Christmas morning would have been awesome. It's almost like thor and Odin were showing up for Christmas breakfast.

  • @Joseph-jj7bw
    @Joseph-jj7bw Рік тому +1

    Having beat the game I'm noticing all the references to Thor's alcoholism and/or Odin torturing with him in this scene. Swilling and sniffing the mead, Odin shuffling the cup in front of him, "you're no fun anymore," glancing at the cups as Odin drinks, et cetera.

  • @MichaelTheRead
    @MichaelTheRead Рік тому

    I'm sorry but Odin had me snorting at "Smartest Head Alive." 😂

  • @inthedeadhours
    @inthedeadhours Рік тому +4

    definitely buying Odin as Baldurs father.

  • @misterc1099
    @misterc1099 Рік тому

    I like the small detail around 7:47. Kratos has his hand on the table but the second Odin puts his hand on atreus, kratos goes for his axe.

  • @BlueSpams
    @BlueSpams Рік тому +16

    Spoilers ahead for the ending
    Thor really wasn’t a horrible guy, at the end of the day. He was a victim and a pawn, and I’m glad they made him actually way more *calm and reasonable* than we were lead to believe. He deserved so much more than what he had to deal with in the end

  • @jpfria5085
    @jpfria5085 Рік тому +1

    2:09 this mirrors the first game when Kratos meets Baldur. But just imagine how small Baldur is compared to Thor. Getting bully big brother vibes