Is The Sony PVM 2530 the best PRO CRT for Retro?
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
- Here is deeper look at the Sony PVM 2530 Trinitron CRT monitor. This one was manufactured in 1987. This one had lots of bad capacitors, cold solder joints, and lots of other problems. This is a restoration/rebuild overview. I will also walk through the area that you need to focus on for making adjustments and calibrating this CRT.
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How does the 2730q compare to this one, better convergeance and geometry? 2730 and 2950 have Super Fine Pitch tube right?
Man, if I opened up a CRT I would be so overwhelmed looking at all those components. You do a great job at explaining things.
Thanks! Yeah this one in particular is a nightmare to navigate if you haven't worked on one before. So many wires and boards. Thankfully Sony consolidated some of this down in newer PVMs.
Amazing work getting that monitor working. I stopped by savon pat’s shop last weekend and he had a 2530 that he was working on. The corner convergence and geometry wasn’t great, and apparently the tube was going bad. But it still looked amazing at a normal playing distance to my eyes. It was my first time seeing one of these big monitors in person. Really impressive despite the imperfections
Thank you
I'm glad that you got this one looking as good as you can. I know the two that you recapped along with the 32 are still doing good. (one of the 25s is in the garage for back up and a friend is using the other one.) You do great work Steve!
Glad to hear an update on those. Thanks again!
Holy smokes, all that soldering you had to do on that board makes me feel really good about the condition of my 2530. That is a lot of tedious and delicate work to have to do on that board surface. Kudos to your steady hands on that one, it'd look like a braille kindergarten reader if I had done it.
😆 yeah it was a ton of work but sometimes you don't have a lot of choice if you want it to work for a long time.
Love the content! I've been able to service my 36kv300 because of your content from yoke adjustmetns to convergence. I was initially very put out by geometry issues because as time went on I became conditioned to the digital age of perfect geometry. Hearing you talk about geometry being as good as it can be makes me feel much better about mine.
Thanks
It would be amazing to find one of these, but Im happy with my 19in sets. If I go any higher Id prob just pickup a cheap/free consumer CRT like the D-series or Trinitrons. These big boys just have such a price tag now & a host of possible issues. Fantastic to see them running well though.
Thanks. Yes they are great looking. I love the cube design.
I like the cube pvm series. i have a similar model (2730qm) that i bought a few years back. i had to open the back of the monitor and put a mirror in front of screen to adjust the picture. that's took me almost 2 intense hour's, so i can imagine how much hours and effort it tooks u to restore this monitor.
I have one pvm 2730qm and i am very happy to have it
I just picked up a 2030 and so far I am satisfied with it. I am waiting for the RGB adapter cable from UK, and then I will try adjusting the pots on the inside if needed. So far so good though. The only flaw I have noticed is the few light scratched on the front glass of the tube. They look like the could be buffed out, but I'm afraid of making the glass worse.
The convergence top centre shown at 11.08 - the fact the red is lifted above the white line - can be dialed in better by adjusting the yoke and the BMC magnet. The yoke could use rotating as well, which will probably help the dynamic convergence along the way.
I have a PVM-2730 in great condition (the non-US version of the same monitor) and yes, i would rank it above my 20" BVM. It's brighter and better and more fun to play on.
Thanks. This one really needs a yoke reseating I feel. I may go for it, but again the biggest problem is the risk of permanent damage. This PVM was in quite rough shape to begin with.
I’ve got one myself and really like it. I bought that cap replacement from u and the repair was definitely an undertaking. I’d still prefer that 2950q u donated to the museum in Philly. That ones probably my favorite all around crt monitor. My 2530 has the same issue at the very top of the screen that I cannot fix with strips and magnets but the screen looks great otherwise.
Great! Yeah the 2950Q is one of Sony's Best ever CRTs. Glad to hear your 2530 I working good.
I'd love to see a JVC Master Command 2 on the channel. The chassis just looks like a giant 1702 monitor. I'd love to see one serviced and get your impressions on what I believe is underrated/unknown consumer set.
I just yesterday inherited a PVM-2530 so, I'm now doing all the research. It's in decent shape and seems to be working. Although, I thought it didn't work at first. I didn't get a picture until I actually plug a signal into it which was obviously a user error lol. I was expecting to see static with nothing plugged in but, then I realized there is no tuner built in, duh 😳. Did you make your RGB cable? I've been looking for a 25 pin to RGB cable but haven't found anything yet. I see people selling a lot of 25 pin to SCART and 25 pin to specific consoles for PVMs out there but, not really straight up 25 pin to 3 wire RGB. I downloaded the manual for the pinouts so, I guess I'm gonna have to make my own. I have a bunch of VGA to RGB cables that I used to use with projectors I could be used as a donor starting point. There are a few pins I don't know if I need to worry about or not namely: pin 1 (IBM Select), pin 9 (analog/digital mode select), pin 10 (RGB/normal mode select) and pin 25 (IBM luminance signal). I'm hoping I could just ignore them and use pins 4 (blue), 5 (green), 6 (red) and, pick a ground at 15-24. If you or anyone else has some insight on the 1, 9, 10, and 25 pins... I'd appreciate the info. 👍
What luck finding this video! I own a 2530 for several years now, and she’s always been finicky. The geometry is good, but after having it shipped during a move, it’s picture tends to wobble and flicker, and you gotta give her a smack to get it to settle like you would with a regular crt.
I just wish I knew what I had to do to fix it
Sounds like your might have a bad solder
Hi Steve, I had the same convergence issue on this set just after recap of the little convergence board and the original caps were leaking! by the way to fix this is a tedious job since every pot influence each other, you have often to readjust the h stat pot too
I have a 2530 from 1994 and I love it but I’m having trouble getting the RGB input to pick up a proper signal from my Extron 700 scan converter via SCART cables from Retro Gaming Cables. It can pick up RGsB on the sync on green setting, but I’m having trouble getting picture from the sync on H/V setting. Do you have ideas what the issue could be? Also how do I set the monitor to high state from low state? Is there a manual setting? Can’t find the info in the manual. Love the channel sir!
Hey @RetroTechUSA, any tips on how to polish the black plastic on these? I want to restore them as much as possible, thanks!
HI Steve, I have a PVM 2530 also that was just recently served by Savon Pat. He was able to recap the boards but he mentioned he could not get RGB working due to some chip or board. Could that possibly be the input board you referenced in your video that has the RGB input connector? I would eventually like to get a replacement part some day so I can get RGB working but in the mean time composite and SVIDEO work so I guess its not a total loss.
I really wanted t see more of the 2530 Steve. Really such a unique unit that capture my attention for sure. 8^)
Anthony..
Thanks Anthony!
Hello, I follow your work very much, it is super interesting, congratulations! I wanted to ask you, I have a Sony PVM 2130QM and the image shakes a lot at 60Hz, 50Hz is perfect but the games at 60Hz the image shakes, the entire screen, what could be the problem? thanks and regards
With today's market... best one is the one You can get your hands on , i'm quite happy with 14L1 (will attempt rgb mod someday) but luckily for european crowd, 25in+ rgb trinis are dime a dozen, some of them are high tvl too. One thing I noticed, flat wegas made in UK have much better geometry than US counterparts (FS120,FV310)
I don’t have any experience with crts outside of america, but I can confirm that most flat sony crts I’ve come across have horrible geometry lol.
Awesome set. Can you get a little more into the specifics of that hstat red box failure? What is inside that? Is it a fixable board? Could someone reverse engineer it like for those PVM/BVM input card?
Yes, I will go over this in the next Cathode Ray Podcast! Do you mind re-typing your question on episode #3 and Louis will bring it up to me. I'll go over it in detail. That films next Tuesday, FYI.
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Done, thanks!
Dear Steve this is probably the Best monitor ever made for 240p games, But if you want to redo the convergence you need to remove the yoke since most inner magnets get loose overtime a d you will get bad convergence at sides and also bad geometry.
I've got the option to buy a 2730. It's the same cost as the low tvl 20" PVMs i can get. Even the same as the jvc dt-v1700, price wise.
Would you go for the 2730, if it's got good image? Or will I never get a good image from that PVM?
Any help would be much appreciated
I have a prosumer KV-25XBR with RGB and I think it looks fabulous. Picture looks similar to 2530 in my opinion but a bit different because of the tinted glass.
And oh man that D series looks nice!
25XBR has same tube as 2530
@@gleamingtv3946 I thought so but I've seen a rebutal to this. In any case, it looks really similar to my eyes (I had a 2030 for a while).
@@FinalBaton really, what did they say. I’m speaking of only the picture tube not the internals, I’ve heard of people doing tube swaps of both.
Hi, I was just wondering if you've ever come across or worked with a KV-25XBR. It's supposedly using the same tube as the PVM 2530, and does have RGB input, though it's on a 32 pin connector. Would the image from that CRT give a similar quality to the PVM here? Love your videos, Thanks!
I've had both (at the same time). The 2530's picture is tighter despite the 2 using the same tube. But the 25XBR is still awesome and I'd be totally happy with it had I not found a 2530 in good condition at a fair price. Really pleasant picture on the XBR.
I own two of those bad boys. The cube design is very desirable.
Yes they are, and it's pretty much a guarantee that you'll have to recap nearly all the Deflection board to get the best results.
Mark, what would you charge to repair a 2530 wth various geometry problems and some slight warping in the picture, distortion in the corners?
If there are resistors connected between the buttons and a power supply (would be called a pull up resistor) then the issues with the slow response on the buttons could be caused by the resistors going high in value. Might be worth checking the value of the resistors if they exist.
Do you have any 1270q or 1271q pvms in the shop? The smokey tinted glass and the overall chassis aesthetic are awesome. I would love to see a video on one.
I do, I'll work on them at some point. Thanks
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Nobody’s selling crts near me and I live on an island😭! I just want a JVC d series 32” or 36” or 27” if I have to.
240P Test Suite. Is Junker HQ part of the official Snatcher canon?
Lol, maybe so.
Does anyone know where I could rent one of these? I'm based in Germany.
@1:09 If anybody ever figures out a replacement/workaround for that part please make a vid on it. Same for the one in the 2030.
my man
Where you located? I need work done lol
Harrisonburg, Virginia. Near JMU
@@RetroTechUSA know anyone in Washington? Just need the pincushion and center aligned.
Im stupid, how do i get the test screen on my crt?
You mean 240ptestsuite? It’s a software that you can download and put on a modded console, it has the test patterns that steve uses in the video.
@@MrNapkino thank you👍
Best Pro CRT lol nice fake clickbait title. 30 series from the 80s is the oldest, no progressive scan, no YPbPr, no SDI and needs custom cable for RGB. More like the worst. Dislike time.
Go for it.
Is it true that on BVMs that do progressive scan can still play light gun games?
@@realamericannegro977 They need to keep at 50 Hz PAL / 60 Hz NTSC at 480p versus jump to 100 Hz. I read one BVM datasheet that explicitly stated this and two others that were ambiguous. I'd assume in general that they will work.