The theme in warhammer is ``You can make the paradise, but you choose the hell for be a idiot who dont learn about this faiulures´´ In short words. Pride and autodestruction.
Many of the primarchs were adults when he took them back. They couldn't understand that he trusted them by giving entire systems of planets and weapons of mass destruction to them thinking they can be responsible. He entrusted his dream of a united mankind driven by knowledge to his sons which is why he left great crusade to fix the golden throne. Which is why lorgar and his legion are emperors failure of imperium. Not horus not curze but only word bearers.
@@warhounds I mean, he could've dealt with Lorgar many ways better than destroying his most prized city, shame him publicly and basically doing to him the equivalent of Jesus coming down from heaven just to say a priest is a massive ignorant and incapable of performinga ny of his duties. In the end the Emperor had multiple choices, but He chose only those that lead down the bad route, just like everyone else in this clusterfuck of a civil war
@@piggyblitz4404 the Cabal predicted the opposite. That the Emperors progression towards a psychic species would just result in the same doom of the Eldar and the creation of new Chaos gods aoens later.
@@nairda55555the cabal is also the same group who would have rather had humanity destroyed in order to starve chaos. Soooo, I’d rather not consider them an option for the future prosperity of mankind.
Malcador the Hero. A human psyker deemed worthy enough to sit upon the golden throne, sacrificing himself and effectively saving humanity and the Emperor in the process.
But some tards think that Sanguinius was able to kill Horus on his own, effectively making Malcador's sacrifice first stupid (heck a primarch can kill the champion of Chaos now rofl, no need to dust myself on the Throne) and second ironic (Malcador allowing the Emperor to walk, inadvertently putting him in the Vengeful Spirit to be hurt by Sanguinius). The greatest single stupidest fan theory in Warhammer40k.
I'm a new player trying to get into the 30k/40k universe lore. What I briefly understand what happened was (spoilers ig? everyone should know about Horus Heresy right? idk I'm definitely coming back to edit this): -Horus gets corrupted, convinces half of the space marine legions & Primarchs to betray Emperor/The Imperium, he kills brother Sanguinuis, Emperor teleports with custodes and imperial fist bois to fight him -Emperor gets heavily wounded, Horus apologizes and asks to be killed for betraying all of humanity because he believed Emperor was bad father figure, Emperor proceeds to absolutely obliterate Horus from existence. - Horus dead, Golden Throne gets made (Thanks Malcador
@@5uper5wagbear95 Actually most of if not all of that is the correct. Its more of a summarized version and doesn't have the details and the actual repercussions of what the Horus Hersey caused but more or less is spot on with what happened at terra.
I think that moment was first time in eons that the Emperor was really hurt, not physically but deep down...like probsbly had not happened in 10k years
"Look at it, father. What they've made of our dream. This bloated corpse of an empire. Better that we'd have burned in the fires of Horus's treachery than live to see this." - Guilliman
There are Space Marines alive in 999.M41 that claim to know War. Bullshit. They know of Battle, of Combat. But they do not know of War. If they did, they would not boast of their combat honors, for there is nothing in War that any wish to remember.
40k in a nutshell: *Depression.* Seriously, contemplating the millenia of war and rebellion and treachery and bloodshed it can be deemed that 40k is grimdark, but when it comes down to it, with context, the Horus Heresy and the stagnancy of the Imperium that followed is probably the most depressing chain of events in fiction. The Emperor tried to make humanity the dominant species in the galaxy and protect them from both hostile alien races and the daemonic only for his sons to fall to Chaos and cause a civil war that resulted in a dogmatic, superstitious and oppressive empire suffering from technological and societal regression on a galactic scale.
Another element of depression...Chaos gods once time were positive beings who after millenia of bullshit negative emotions got turned into those things!
Depressive perhaps, but not depression. Depression is a profound lack of motivation and purpose. The outcome of that is not doing anything. Life is a constant struggle and effort. If there is no reward for the struggle, there is no point struggling. But that is not the case with the Imperium. The Imperial Guard, the citizens, fight. Why do they fight, because their fight makes the difference. So as strange as it might sound, it is the opposite. It is hope.
@@Sigismunddagoat no no, the Horus Heresy is NOTHING compared to the War in Heaven, if Primarch were in that conflict, they would be line soldier. I mean, Vulcan got bodied by a demi-Krork (The Beast) while they were the basic soldiers of the Old One. Don’t even get me started on Aeldari psykers that could use their full potential and C’tans.
@@hugotheimpecileone The only problem with autocracy is that it is unstable as if there is a good ruler, the nation will prosper extremely such as Markus Aurelius, than they die and are replaced by someone like Nero which could collapse the nation and undo all of the previous rulers work. But the thing is, you dont have to worry about that if you are an immortal giant gleaming god man. So there is no real need for democracy, however it would be good for a planetary government, just not a galactic one.
Vulkan cradling one of his dead sons will forever be one of the saddest things I'll see in this franchise knowing how much he cares for every living human around him. He did not want this, he did not want a galaxy thats drowning in clonflict... For conflict only leaves him to see his sons dead and burried and we all know the weight that brings on a father that loves his sons dearly...
I saw humanity reach a golden peak and brush it with its fingertips for a moment…and then I saw the rest of you resent it and, dragged us back down to depravity -Roboute to Mortarion during the Dark Imperium books (probably one of the most depressing meetings between primarchs in recent lore because guilliman hasn't seen him since the heresy and laments his brothers downfall for Guillemin had great respect for mortarion and his ideals before turning)
Not quite - Roboute respected Mortarion's endurance but hated how he turned every planet he was deployed to into uninhabitable radioactive hell holes that could no longer be easily lived in and repurposed for the imperium.
One unbreakable shield against the coming darkness One last blade, forged in defiance of fate Let them be my legacy to the galaxy I conquered And my final gift to the species I failed - Inscription upon the Arcus Daemonica, attributed to the Emperor of Mankind
One of the saddest things is horus before falling was argubly the nicest primarch, to his sons, he knelt down to listen to them and lowered himself to them, he use to take advice and straight critism to imrpove with them and even affoicately reffered to one of them as little horus, he also priased and generally acted like a farther stern but very loving
You underestimate Horus' ability to be what he was required to be in any given situation, given his company. he played all roles, a warm father, an approving master, a staunch ally, a devoted son, a diplomatic negotiator, a keen strategic mastermind.... his ability to first give of himself earnestly, and then later to fool everyone, is what made him the most enigmatic and dangerous amongst the Primarchs. he was far ever from predictable. he was attuned to, and keen for approval and adoration.
@@frostwalker9902 sees that one his sons loves him but that love reduces the his combat effectiveness so destroy his prized city and genocide his beloved sisters and brothers
It is said that the emperor was an important immortal man that existed since the age of stone, and was the most important person among the people. The emperor could be Ceasar, Jesus, Galileo, Einstein and any person that changed humanity drastically or just a normal man.
I thought this video would make me laugh. But in reality it saddens my mood. I know Warhammer is a fictional universe but the loss of so much lifes, the bright future of mankind and the vision of the emperor is a hard brick to swallow. We were so close...
And as a result, we ended up in a despotic, totalitarian, fascist state, spread over the entire galaxy, where human life is worthless. With little hope that this is not forever.
Trillions of civilians washed away by apocalyptic battles, billions of confused mortal soldiers completely unaware of the sides they are taking, millions of astartes slaughtered upon the blades of their brothers, most of the Custodes slain defying the unending hordes of daemons within the webway, thousands of titans ravaged and even crucified, many primarchs and finally the Emperor and his last remaining friend in life... All gone. All burnt away on the pyre of Horus' folly. His own legion shattered beyond redemption. His own body a plaything of the 3rd legion apothecaries. His soul, unexisting. His allies, barking and biting at each other as if they are a bunch of starving dogs... All of that because he trusted the words of a Word Bearer above the Emperor. Say it. Say it with me brothers. . FUCK EREBUS!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÂAAAA
"We wanted the Primarchs to turn against one another. Against their father. Be assured, we maneuvered each of them from the moment of their rediscovery, pitting them against one another, stoking their brotherly rivalries with His unequal favor." - Malcador source: First Lord of the Imperium
This is beautiful. To think that just a few years ago I would completely not understand this. This is incredibly emotional, so much story, so greatly written and this short video captures emotions of this story perfectly.
the artwork of that one loyalist deathguard dreadnaught holding his dying brother in his arms after the virus bombing would have been perfect here.....
I was present at the Siege of Terra. I fought my cousins on the walls of the Imperial Palace. I helped retake one of the spaceports. I held my dying brothers and swore vengeance. I achieved vengeance. I followed my Khan into the Webway and the threshold sealed behind us. Thirty-five brothers, the Khan, and I all ventured into the Webway, and I lost 35 brothers over the next five thousand years. When I finally returned to see what the Imperium had become in my absence, in 998.M41, I wept, for the Imperium that I had fought for no longer existed, and in it's place was the very Imperium Horus had fought to create.
The HH’s length helps it hit so much harder. So much time to explore every angle of the conflict. My fav is when Marines/characters argue if the Heresy was foreseen by the Emperor or not, and if not, how tf it was even possible
Malcador the Chad of Chad. A true loyalist. A Bro above any Bro. Half of the Emperor son rebelled, Terra & The Imperial Palace besiege, all hell went lose, & he still loyal to the Imperium & Emperor. His unqestionable loyalty let him sacrifice his own life to save the Imperium within its desperate time. A true hero non like others.
The tragedy is quite well made, a true shining hope for a at one point doomed humanity, dashed by a person who did it for the very same reason and people that hope was doing it for (in the beginning for horus at least)
A man, no matter how strong, is only a man. Horus' convictions and arrogance led him down a path of utter darkness. For all the Ceramite, Gene Seed, and Bolters, Astartes are still human. All it takes to fall to ruin is to question yourself and the very existence of the universe. Stay steadfast in your morals, and never doubt yourself about who you are or why you fight. You'll always be the villain in somebody's story, just make sure you don't find yourself becoming the villian in yours. Iron Within Iron Without.
Когда понимаешь что ощущал каждый человек в Империуме в тот момент... Когда твой друг, знакомый или даже брат мог предать; когда твоя планета могла сгореть в войне, в любой момент; когда тебе приходится на передовой стрелять в своих бывших союзников...
The Sky burned, the Seas boiled and the world ended. But perhaps worst yet, the Imperium still wakes up for another day of work for the next 10 thousand years
“ So let their be war! From the skies of terra to the galactic rim! Let their seas boil let their stars fall! Even if it takes the last drop of my blood!
I have never been so invested in a fictional universe before. I thought it was kinda cringe to be, like those weird star trek/harry potter weirdos. But only if Horus hadn't betrayed the Emperor... Oh, what could have been!
Still cant believe the huge amount of lore this fucking universe has, and this is just the space marines/primearchs. Thats not even all of the human faction, its insane! So glad the lore practically absorbed me
According to Malcador in The Sigillite, they wanted the primarchs to turn against each other, and against them. But it happened too early. And it wasn't supposed to be Horus. And that's why things went as bad as they did. But up until the end, they trusted their strategy was working mostly as planned
@@tgst1181 I guess the original idea was to let Lorgar lead the heresy with Konrad, Angron, Mortarion, Fulgrim and Perturabo but due to Chaos got Horus so many other fell as well.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Humanities darkest days and its brightest of triumphs. A time of heros and monsters, of martyrs and villains. Stars fell, seas boiled, soldiers raged, giving their all for a future they'd never see come to fruition. The beginning of the end, the fall of the galaxy, the death of innocence and the inevitability of our final fate.
I see a lot of people saying the emperor should have bee a better dad. I think the primarchs should have been better people. They were already grown men when he found them, and were told upfront that they were created for the specific purpose unifying and improving the galaxy. The ones who fell were just selfish, not having the strenght of character to put themselves aside for humanitys future
I mean angron was basically screwed from the beginning. Magnus fall was part of tzeentches plan though his arrogance did kinda contribute to it Fulcrum was possessed by an extremely powerful demon though I think that was retconed I mean yeah logar should be hated but if the emperor didn’t want to be worshipped then probably don’t be all godlike and use religious terms in the imperium. I forgot the others
@@nomus1172 perty was treated horribly by the emperor from the perspective as even just a leader still I think joining chaos was stupid enough that I still blame him mortarion was accually a petulant child, but he was kept in a cage for years so you couldn't have expected too much strenght of character Konrad was done so stupendously dirty outside of his own control I don't even blame him and frankly Ima be real and say horus shouldn't have fallen, he was the closest of the primarchs to the emperor, and of what I know they didnt do any mind bullshit trickey, erebus just *tried to convince him* that Big E was trying to be a god, which even if he belived him, (which anyone that close to someone would have known something about how emp just wanted humanity to become the greatest in the galaxy'n'all) he would have at least Done some investigation about it for or at least ask about, now if that whole theory about how no matter what chaos get half then everything makes sense.
Grown man that STILL could and WAS influenced by him Angron is literally a complete failure of his, Angron was doing a good thing, even with the nails he tried to do good, and the emperor kidnapped him to literally sacrifice him when the crusade ended Lorgar was completely loyal until he BLOW UP HIS CITY, the dude could have done SO MUCH BETTER Mortarion Fulgrim and Kurze kinda suck btw Magnus was arrogant but the emperor eclipsed him with his ego, he could have teach him what really was the warp, SHOW him what really was, but no. Sometimes the emperor just seem like the typical "I am too smart to lost time with a explanation"
@@lutokill4784 Angron was lost to the nails regardless , Lorgar was warned multiple times and just didnt give a shit so an example had to be made and Magnus was so arrogant of his superiority that he made his own downfall , he was warned by both the greatest scholars on Prospero and the Emperor of his pursuit of warp power and yet he ignored it.
"A child who is not embraced by his village will burn it to feel its warmth" That's what Horus did. "let the galaxy burn." he said. The Emperor managed to create godlike warriors and strategist, but he failed to give them what they really needed: a father. He raised them to be demigod-like in their behaviour. However, he failed to realize that humans, unlike gods, are not meant to be perfect...
@@fernhausluv44 you know Warhammer 40k was also inspired with religion, I didn't mean that jesus is the Emperor of Mankind, I just guessing it so don't take it seriously mate.
Also Malcador: "I fucking told you to have some daughters instead of all sons and that they would all fight each other if you didn't!" Only human with the balls to tell the Emperor I told you so. He was truly Emps best friend.
Silly enough, but this little video manages to evoke a real feeling of "nostalgia and sadness" for the lost emperium, the plans of the emperor and the great crusade......real disappointment, sadness and nostalgia for a fictional universe (or maybe not entirely fictional. ...)))
I hate SO MUCH the interpretation of the emperor of "I am super chad and planned the Heresy" I love the interpretation that he knew the Heresy would happen, tried to control it and backfired in his face because of his failures and ego And in the end, the only person he still considered a friend, desintegrated to give him a chance to end it all And he STILL lost Sanguinius and is now stuck in a throne that slowly is killing him
The main theme of Warhammer: take care of your kids, even if they are demigods.
Especially if they are demigods
Oh and don’t lie to them either...
The theme in warhammer is ``You can make the paradise, but you choose the hell for be a idiot who dont learn about this faiulures´´
In short words. Pride and autodestruction.
Many of the primarchs were adults when he took them back. They couldn't understand that he trusted them by giving entire systems of planets and weapons of mass destruction to them thinking they can be responsible. He entrusted his dream of a united mankind driven by knowledge to his sons which is why he left great crusade to fix the golden throne. Which is why lorgar and his legion are emperors failure of imperium. Not horus not curze but only word bearers.
@@warhounds I mean, he could've dealt with Lorgar many ways better than destroying his most prized city, shame him publicly and basically doing to him the equivalent of Jesus coming down from heaven just to say a priest is a massive ignorant and incapable of performinga ny of his duties. In the end the Emperor had multiple choices, but He chose only those that lead down the bad route, just like everyone else in this clusterfuck of a civil war
We were so...close....so....fucking close..
That's always what gets me about this montage. How close they were to a united humanity, a united galaxy. Peace and security were RIGHT THERE
@@ethanfrields7050 I am pretty sure that chaos would have found its way out regardless sooner or later
@@Defileros if the webway project was finished, the chaos gods would have completely been starved
@@piggyblitz4404 the Cabal predicted the opposite. That the Emperors progression towards a psychic species would just result in the same doom of the Eldar and the creation of new Chaos gods aoens later.
@@nairda55555the cabal is also the same group who would have rather had humanity destroyed in order to starve chaos. Soooo, I’d rather not consider them an option for the future prosperity of mankind.
Malcador the Hero.
A human psyker deemed worthy enough to sit upon the golden throne, sacrificing himself and effectively saving humanity and the Emperor in the process.
To be fair he was low war in heaven eldar tier
@@brendanmuller7301 what happened to your English my dude
@@crazycocainemercenary7498 To be fair malcador was equivalent to a weak war in heaven era eldar
@@brendanmuller7301 aaa that's true
But some tards think that Sanguinius was able to kill Horus on his own, effectively making Malcador's sacrifice first stupid (heck a primarch can kill the champion of Chaos now rofl, no need to dust myself on the Throne) and second ironic (Malcador allowing the Emperor to walk, inadvertently putting him in the Vengeful Spirit to be hurt by Sanguinius). The greatest single stupidest fan theory in Warhammer40k.
Damn. You know its gotta hurt when your sons betray you, and in the end your favorite one is begging for you to end his suffering.
I'm a new player trying to get into the 30k/40k universe lore. What I briefly understand what happened was
(spoilers ig? everyone should know about Horus Heresy right? idk I'm definitely coming back to edit this):
-Horus gets corrupted, convinces half of the space marine legions & Primarchs to betray Emperor/The Imperium, he kills brother Sanguinuis, Emperor teleports with custodes and imperial fist bois to fight him
-Emperor gets heavily wounded, Horus apologizes and asks to be killed for betraying all of humanity because he believed Emperor was bad father figure, Emperor proceeds to absolutely obliterate Horus from existence.
- Horus dead, Golden Throne gets made (Thanks Malcador
@@5uper5wagbear95 Actually most of if not all of that is the correct. Its more of a summarized version and doesn't have the details and the actual repercussions of what the Horus Hersey caused but more or less is spot on with what happened at terra.
I think that moment was first time in eons that the Emperor was really hurt, not physically but deep down...like probsbly had not happened in 10k years
@@5uper5wagbear95 not because he was a bad father
@@Kor-Phaeron how did horus get corrupted by chaos though? you'd figure emperors sons would be so powerful to not be influenced by chaos right?
"Look at it, father. What they've made of our dream. This bloated corpse of an empire. Better that we'd have burned in the fires of Horus's treachery than live to see this." - Guilliman
"Why do I even live"
-Roboute Guilliman after seeing the state of the imperium in 40k
"You were my greatest warriors"
"WE WERE YOUR SONS!"
From where is that line?
does it have to be from somewhere?@@WarriorVVanaB
@@vfx.360 no, but if it is, i want to read the full source.
We need a HH TV series..
But only after Gaunt's Ghosts
@@alexc8114 Henry Cavel is planinng to make one,but everything must be just right because he only got one chance
The Primarchs who wanted an Emperor stayed loyalist
The Primarchs who wanted a father rebelled
Based Heretics
I dont think Fulgrim wanted either
@@swyrm616 cringe heretics
well i mean by the time the emperor found most of them they were already fully grown and some were centuries old
@@KingLich451 fulgrim didn't even know what he wanted
Pain... terrible pain.
There are Space Marines alive in 999.M41 that claim to know War.
Bullshit.
They know of Battle, of Combat. But they do not know of War.
If they did, they would not boast of their combat honors, for there is nothing in War that any wish to remember.
Agony.
Pain.
and suffering
40k in a nutshell: *Depression.*
Seriously, contemplating the millenia of war and rebellion and treachery and bloodshed it can be deemed that 40k is grimdark, but when it comes down to it, with context, the Horus Heresy and the stagnancy of the Imperium that followed is probably the most depressing chain of events in fiction. The Emperor tried to make humanity the dominant species in the galaxy and protect them from both hostile alien races and the daemonic only for his sons to fall to Chaos and cause a civil war that resulted in a dogmatic, superstitious and oppressive empire suffering from technological and societal regression on a galactic scale.
Another element of depression...Chaos gods once time were positive beings who after millenia of bullshit negative emotions got turned into those things!
@@stefanoagrimi8074 Is that true? What book can I read that in.
Depressive perhaps, but not depression. Depression is a profound lack of motivation and purpose. The outcome of that is not doing anything. Life is a constant struggle and effort. If there is no reward for the struggle, there is no point struggling.
But that is not the case with the Imperium. The Imperial Guard, the citizens, fight. Why do they fight, because their fight makes the difference. So as strange as it might sound, it is the opposite. It is hope.
@@christopherholmes7324 The war in heaven was just that bad
@@Sigismunddagoat no no, the Horus Heresy is NOTHING compared to the War in Heaven, if Primarch were in that conflict, they would be line soldier. I mean, Vulcan got bodied by a demi-Krork (The Beast) while they were the basic soldiers of the Old One. Don’t even get me started on Aeldari psykers that could use their full potential and C’tans.
He tries to get humanity back into the golden era before the age of strife. He was that close.
He failed and humanity went downhill since.
Ironically the faure come from being so focused on the task to almost completely forget the human element
Except he created a brutal regime, even before the Horus Heresy.
@@tvnetworks6610
"democracy, in this Age of Strife?"
-Emperor, Probably
@@tvnetworks6610 Maybe he thought democracy wouldn't work on a galactic scale
@@hugotheimpecileone The only problem with autocracy is that it is unstable as if there is a good ruler, the nation will prosper extremely such as Markus Aurelius, than they die and are replaced by someone like Nero which could collapse the nation and undo all of the previous rulers work. But the thing is, you dont have to worry about that if you are an immortal giant gleaming god man. So there is no real need for democracy, however it would be good for a planetary government, just not a galactic one.
Vulkan cradling one of his dead sons will forever be one of the saddest things I'll see in this franchise knowing how much he cares for every living human around him. He did not want this, he did not want a galaxy thats drowning in clonflict...
For conflict only leaves him to see his sons dead and burried and we all know the weight that brings on a father that loves his sons dearly...
Pretty sure that was the body of Ferrus Manus. [edit] wait nevermind just saw the shoulder. Thought it was Ferrus due to the lack of head.
I saw humanity reach a golden peak and brush it with its fingertips for a moment…and then I saw the rest of you resent it and, dragged us back down to depravity -Roboute to Mortarion during the Dark Imperium books (probably one of the most depressing meetings between primarchs in recent lore because guilliman hasn't seen him since the heresy and laments his brothers downfall for Guillemin had great respect for mortarion and his ideals before turning)
Not quite - Roboute respected Mortarion's endurance but hated how he turned every planet he was deployed to into uninhabitable radioactive hell holes that could no longer be easily lived in and repurposed for the imperium.
@@RadSco riiiiight I forgot he did that to conquered worlds 😬😬😬
I am Alpharius
Any of the 40k nulore is garbage, nothing including the primaris marines should be considered canon.
@@Kelpie-sb5bi ok?
Now you understand why the Emperor was adamant in destroying Chaos.
One unbreakable shield against the coming darkness
One last blade, forged in defiance of fate
Let them be my legacy to the galaxy I conquered
And my final gift to the species I failed
- Inscription upon the Arcus Daemonica, attributed to the Emperor of Mankind
Almost makes me sad for the fall of the false emperor
For a guy that can see the future, he sure was surprised when his son, horus heresy, started a horus heresy
One of the saddest things is horus before falling was argubly the nicest primarch, to his sons, he knelt down to listen to them and lowered himself to them, he use to take advice and straight critism to imrpove with them and even affoicately reffered to one of them as little horus, he also priased and generally acted like a farther stern but very loving
You underestimate Horus' ability to be what he was required to be in any given situation, given his company. he played all roles, a warm father, an approving master, a staunch ally, a devoted son, a diplomatic negotiator, a keen strategic mastermind.... his ability to first give of himself earnestly, and then later to fool everyone, is what made him the most enigmatic and dangerous amongst the Primarchs. he was far ever from predictable. he was attuned to, and keen for approval and adoration.
@@Noxims47314
He also fucked over Corvus Corax's chapter when he knew damn well the Raven Guard weren't suited for head to head on combat.
LET THE SEAS BOIL
LET THE STARS FALL
LET THE GALAXY BURN
Imagine this playing when the siege of terra begins
*HOLY TERRA!!!* 🙏🙏🙏
Every Minecraft Civilization experiment be like:
From most of the ones that I've seen there's always seem to be someone who would be the equivalent of Erebus, Lorgar, or Horus.
Lmao
Big E: "Honestly that when better than I thought it would"
Bro went from "all my kids are demigods who MAy not betray me" to "Who taught y'all to smoke weed with the chaos gods?"
That would be Erebus and Kor Pharon who got that bong rolling.
@@TimeCircleBlue Meanwhile Night Lords were just sitting alone, doing meth from the start.
It's sad how much work he put to bring humanity together as one and it all falls apart due to his most beloved son 😔
No, it fell apart because he was a good leader but a shitty father figure, and Erebus. Especially Erebus.
@@cornixdemetrius7883 how was he a shitty father ? , What did he do ?
@@frostwalker9902 sees that one his sons loves him but that love reduces the his combat effectiveness so destroy his prized city and genocide his beloved sisters and brothers
@@doge7906 wait really , 😨😨😨, Ok I get he wanted his son to be serious but he didn't have to go that far ,..... wow, that's rough
@@doge7906 wait, was it lugar or someone else ?
The emperor is what happens if Jesus didn’t do the pacifist route
It is said that the emperor was an important immortal man that existed since the age of stone, and was the most important person among the people.
The emperor could be Ceasar, Jesus, Galileo, Einstein and any person that changed humanity drastically or just a normal man.
@@ryanrios4328 einstein was a little btch tho
@@duckboi4509 The emperor sometimes too.
Christ wasn’t Pacifist though
@@CHRISTOSANESTI2023 ofc, he used kung fu to kill roman zombies remember?
Why does this beat work so great with 40k
to think that this series that has been going on since 2006 is going to more than a decade an a half later with two books left...
Here we are with one book left, and I'm still weeping for The Imperium that could have been.
No title will ever hit harder than:
*”The End and The Death”*
I thought this video would make me laugh. But in reality it saddens my mood. I know Warhammer is a fictional universe but the loss of so much lifes, the bright future of mankind and the vision of the emperor is a hard brick to swallow. We were so close...
And as a result, we ended up in a despotic, totalitarian, fascist state, spread over the entire galaxy, where human life is worthless. With little hope that this is not forever.
We were right there.
Trillions of civilians washed away by apocalyptic battles, billions of confused mortal soldiers completely unaware of the sides they are taking, millions of astartes slaughtered upon the blades of their brothers, most of the Custodes slain defying the unending hordes of daemons within the webway, thousands of titans ravaged and even crucified, many primarchs and finally the Emperor and his last remaining friend in life...
All gone. All burnt away on the pyre of Horus' folly. His own legion shattered beyond redemption. His own body a plaything of the 3rd legion apothecaries. His soul, unexisting. His allies, barking and biting at each other as if they are a bunch of starving dogs...
All of that because he trusted the words of a Word Bearer above the Emperor.
Say it.
Say it with me brothers.
.
FUCK
EREBUS!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÂAAAA
@@OljeiKhan that fucker is so terrible even his body hates him and his hair refuses to grow, leaving him with that ugly bald head.
can we appreciate how hard 40k art goes ?? like wtf mega dam
"We wanted the Primarchs to turn against one another. Against their father. Be assured, we maneuvered each of them from the moment of their rediscovery, pitting them against one another, stoking their brotherly rivalries with His unequal favor." - Malcador source: First Lord of the Imperium
Then he admits he is lying, to ease the pain of his friend
He was lying to his dying friend, she was super scared and nervous. He wished to ease her passing
"How do you manage pain?"
"✅I simply live with the pain."
Konradmaxxing
I enjoy pain
-Fulgrim probably
Warhammer content, lord of the rings profile name and a guts pfp...this guy has it all
This is amazing
This is beautiful. To think that just a few years ago I would completely not understand this. This is incredibly emotional, so much story, so greatly written and this short video captures emotions of this story perfectly.
the artwork of that one loyalist deathguard dreadnaught holding his dying brother in his arms after the virus bombing would have been perfect here.....
In the silent grim future of the 50,000 millennium
The emperor light fell into darkness
It’s wild how this occurred over the span of just 7 years... what the fuckkkk
Humanities dream, millennia in the making, shattered in an instant.
This deadass bout to make me cry😅
I was present at the Siege of Terra. I fought my cousins on the walls of the Imperial Palace. I helped retake one of the spaceports. I held my dying brothers and swore vengeance.
I achieved vengeance.
I followed my Khan into the Webway and the threshold sealed behind us. Thirty-five brothers, the Khan, and I all ventured into the Webway, and I lost 35 brothers over the next five thousand years.
When I finally returned to see what the Imperium had become in my absence, in 998.M41, I wept, for the Imperium that I had fought for no longer existed, and in it's place was the very Imperium Horus had fought to create.
What is this from?
@@liameglin5317 I made it myself!
@@ladywaffle2210 sounds just like something out of a book
@@liameglin5317 I'm an aspiring author, so that's a wildly-kind compliment. Thank you, stranger!
@@ladywaffle2210 good luck man
the heresy always felt like a greek tragedy in the story telling
I miss you, dear Sanguinius.
That is just sad man, damn you Erebus.
The HH’s length helps it hit so much harder. So much time to explore every angle of the conflict. My fav is when Marines/characters argue if the Heresy was foreseen by the Emperor or not, and if not, how tf it was even possible
This is too painful
The Horus Heresy: better known as The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark... in space
Malcador the Chad of Chad.
A true loyalist.
A Bro above any Bro.
Half of the Emperor son rebelled, Terra & The Imperial Palace besiege, all hell went lose, & he still loyal to the Imperium & Emperor.
His unqestionable loyalty let him sacrifice his own life to save the Imperium within its desperate time.
A true hero non like others.
Just 20 minute adventure
In and out, 20 minutes.
10 thousand years later
@@azariah_kyras what have we done
The tragedy is quite well made, a true shining hope for a at one point doomed humanity, dashed by a person who did it for the very same reason and people that hope was doing it for (in the beginning for horus at least)
I’m not crying, your crying!
A man, no matter how strong, is only a man. Horus' convictions and arrogance led him down a path of utter darkness. For all the Ceramite, Gene Seed, and Bolters, Astartes are still human. All it takes to fall to ruin is to question yourself and the very existence of the universe. Stay steadfast in your morals, and never doubt yourself about who you are or why you fight. You'll always be the villain in somebody's story, just make sure you don't find yourself becoming the villian in yours. Iron Within Iron Without.
" we were so close " :(
Till this day, I believe with sorrows, that it was the Dark Angel that won, and it wasn't Horus who was put to rest.
Когда понимаешь что ощущал каждый человек в Империуме в тот момент...
Когда твой друг, знакомый или даже брат мог предать; когда твоя планета могла сгореть в войне, в любой момент; когда тебе приходится на передовой стрелять в своих бывших союзников...
The Sky burned, the Seas boiled and the world ended. But perhaps worst yet, the Imperium still wakes up for another day of work for the next 10 thousand years
Truly Masterpiece.
“ So let their be war! From the skies of terra to the galactic rim! Let their seas boil let their stars fall! Even if it takes the last drop of my blood!
"Let the galaxy , BUURRRN"
You did it... you defeated me Horus Heresy.... you really are the Warhammer 40,000.
I have never been so invested in a fictional universe before. I thought it was kinda cringe to be, like those weird star trek/harry potter weirdos.
But only if Horus hadn't betrayed the Emperor... Oh, what could have been!
40k because you cant have nice things.
Only the broken dreams of what it could it be.
if only this caught on as a meme the same as the "lore" memes did.
What's tragedy?
Give them hope on a place they could reach, then grab it and smash it in front of them.
Pain, agony even.
Still cant believe the huge amount of lore this fucking universe has, and this is just the space marines/primearchs.
Thats not even all of the human faction, its insane!
So glad the lore practically absorbed me
Remember, it's all Eldar fault
daddy issues is the greatest threat to the universe
I never wanted to send out my legions
where is the image of the corps emperor on his golden throne? that should have been the cherry on the top
“Damn bro maybe being a good dad is worth my time”
From the skies of terra to the galactic rim the galaxy........burned....all in the name of war masters ambition.
One Crusade.... one Goal.... Destroyed in one moment of weakness..... 10 000 years of Stagnation, decay and Ruin....
According to Malcador in The Sigillite, they wanted the primarchs to turn against each other, and against them. But it happened too early. And it wasn't supposed to be Horus. And that's why things went as bad as they did. But up until the end, they trusted their strategy was working mostly as planned
@@tgst1181 I guess the original idea was to let Lorgar lead the heresy with Konrad, Angron, Mortarion, Fulgrim and Perturabo but due to Chaos got Horus so many other fell as well.
I'm not cry, it's just tears
Wow. This version of this song is 10x better
Samuel Kim makes some bangers
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Humanities darkest days and its brightest of triumphs. A time of heros and monsters, of martyrs and villains. Stars fell, seas boiled, soldiers raged, giving their all for a future they'd never see come to fruition. The beginning of the end, the fall of the galaxy, the death of innocence and the inevitability of our final fate.
The great collapse of the imperium of mankind and his golden era
I see a lot of people saying the emperor should have bee a better dad. I think the primarchs should have been better people. They were already grown men when he found them, and were told upfront that they were created for the specific purpose unifying and improving the galaxy. The ones who fell were just selfish, not having the strenght of character to put themselves aside for humanitys future
I mean angron was basically screwed from the beginning.
Magnus fall was part of tzeentches plan though his arrogance did kinda contribute to it
Fulcrum was possessed by an extremely powerful demon though I think that was retconed
I mean yeah logar should be hated but if the emperor didn’t want to be worshipped then probably don’t be all godlike and use religious terms in the imperium.
I forgot the others
@@nomus1172 perty was treated horribly by the emperor from the perspective as even just a leader still I think joining chaos was stupid enough that I still blame him
mortarion was accually a petulant child, but he was kept in a cage for years so you couldn't have expected too much strenght of character
Konrad was done so stupendously dirty outside of his own control I don't even blame him
and frankly Ima be real and say horus shouldn't have fallen, he was the closest of the primarchs to the emperor, and of what I know they didnt do any mind bullshit trickey, erebus just *tried to convince him* that Big E was trying to be a god, which even if he belived him, (which anyone that close to someone would have known something about how emp just wanted humanity to become the greatest in the galaxy'n'all) he would have at least Done some investigation about it for or at least ask about, now if that whole theory about how no matter what chaos get half then everything makes sense.
Grown man that STILL could and WAS influenced by him
Angron is literally a complete failure of his, Angron was doing a good thing, even with the nails he tried to do good, and the emperor kidnapped him to literally sacrifice him when the crusade ended
Lorgar was completely loyal until he BLOW UP HIS CITY, the dude could have done SO MUCH BETTER
Mortarion Fulgrim and Kurze kinda suck btw
Magnus was arrogant but the emperor eclipsed him with his ego, he could have teach him what really was the warp, SHOW him what really was, but no.
Sometimes the emperor just seem like the typical "I am too smart to lost time with a explanation"
Then explain to them what your goals are and just say iam making humanity perfect without any explanation
@@lutokill4784
Angron was lost to the nails regardless , Lorgar was warned multiple times and just didnt give a shit so an example had to be made and Magnus was so arrogant of his superiority that he made his own downfall , he was warned by both the greatest scholars on Prospero and the Emperor of his pursuit of warp power and yet he ignored it.
In the end, 845 000 people died in combat, making the Heresy 4295623712421899th greatest war in history of mankind
Yo escuché que murieron unas 13,000,000,000 de personas
U can run from ur childrens but u can't run from child support but this time u can't run from whole galaxy war
"A child who is not embraced by his village will burn it to feel its warmth"
That's what Horus did. "let the galaxy burn." he said.
The Emperor managed to create godlike warriors and strategist, but he failed to give them what they really needed: a father.
He raised them to be demigod-like in their behaviour. However, he failed to realize that humans, unlike gods, are not meant to be perfect...
You know I'm starting to feel that the Emperor of Mankind was just Jesus in cooler version
there's a distinct possibility that he was, at one point, Jesus
Oh...The Emperor? You mean 'asshole bad father Napoleon-Jesus?'
@@fernhausluv44 you know Warhammer 40k was also inspired with religion, I didn't mean that jesus is the Emperor of Mankind, I just guessing it so don't take it seriously mate.
The horus heresy has more similarities with satan's betrayal of god. Both Horus and Satan were angels who betrayed their father and fell from grace.
@@Carl-wd5yt that's true
Damn , this is some nice video you made , I’m dead cry for no reason 🗿
RIP sanguinius
Malcadore looks straight out off heroes of might and magic 3
Pain
Horus Heresy gotta be my favorite character in the Horus heresy
Heartbreaking, depressing, dark ....and we f**king love it all
We were close, so fucking close...
We never forget Istvaan
"HE'S DEAD CONSTANTINE! ALL THE PLANS TOO! WE'VE PISSED LIKE DOGS ALL OVER THEIR GALAXY AND NOW IT REEKS WITH OUR SPORE"
Also Malcador: "I fucking told you to have some daughters instead of all sons and that they would all fight each other if you didn't!"
Only human with the balls to tell the Emperor I told you so. He was truly Emps best friend.
Farsight: What....what did they do to you?
The Lion: They stole from us....
Farsight: What did they steal?
The Lion: EVERYTHING.
Silly enough, but this little video manages to evoke a real feeling of "nostalgia and sadness" for the lost emperium, the plans of the emperor and the great crusade......real disappointment, sadness and nostalgia for a fictional universe (or maybe not entirely fictional. ...)))
How I be feeling listening to the last moments of Saul Tarvitz and his boys
Can I found a story lore of this ? Thanks.
Just look up the horus heresy lore on the wiki pages
Be prepared to enter the rabbit hole that is the Horus Heresy.
prepare to depression
Literally 54 books and a followup series. Look it up.
The last words of a man before he fell, like the most of us.
This song works well with 40k
I hate SO MUCH the interpretation of the emperor of "I am super chad and planned the Heresy"
I love the interpretation that he knew the Heresy would happen, tried to control it and backfired in his face because of his failures and ego
And in the end, the only person he still considered a friend, desintegrated to give him a chance to end it all
And he STILL lost Sanguinius and is now stuck in a throne that slowly is killing him
Perturabo, Konrad & Angron: "YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!"
Brother against brother Kin against Kin Father against Son
The Horus Heresy... the darkest Civil War the Imperium has ever had.
Emperor: Don't... say... a word ...
All Lorgar ever wanted was the truth.
I really REALLY want a Horus Heresy game about the Siege of Terra.
Same here. And that Cinematic Trailer for the figures made me want one even more lol.