DON'T buy gaming headphones, BUY IEMs instead! Review of IEMs for GAMING

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    Mouse: Hati Ace Wireless / Pulsar Xlite V2
    Keyboard: Oblirated75
    Camera: Fujifilm XT-2
    Webcam: Logitech c920
    Microphone: Blue Spark SL
    Mousepad: Aqua Control 2
    IEM: Ikko OH10
    Headphones: Aeon Flow Open / Airpods Max
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    Timeline:
    0:00 Intro
    0:15 Sound
    0:34 IEMs vs Gaming Headphones (sound)
    0:55 Soundstage isn't THAT important
    1:09 Comfort
    1:28 Negatives
    1:56 Conclusion
    2:32 What I would buy with $50
    2:45 What I use (not gaming related)
    In this video, I'm sharing my experience with gaming with iems (in-ear monitors) and comparing them to gaming headphones. I demonstrate how iems are better than gaming headphones for a number of reasons, including comfort, sound quality, and isolation.
    Don't buy gaming headphones if you're looking for a better gaming experience. Instead, invest in ear monitors like iems. They offer superior sound quality, noise canceling, and they're much more comfortable to wear. So why wouldn't you choose iems over gaming headphones?
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  • @DrogoDGN
    @DrogoDGN  7 місяців тому +18

    Budget $16 IEM
    ua-cam.com/video/E1V_JbYJr-w/v-deo.htmlsi=fOhF99NIKY6zRaAy
    Budget $100 IEM
    ua-cam.com/video/hXlG5JAsiDI/v-deo.htmlsi=eGfYyf_ky-cPFxlH
    IEM with a microphone, kills gaming headsets
    ua-cam.com/video/ae4vqC-od84/v-deo.html

    • @dannamanna99
      @dannamanna99 5 місяців тому +5

      I love my Sony Izone but a negative with it being wireless is if battery dies. Can’t play and charge at same time. Where wireless headsets can. But I was surprised that sounds were easier to pin point better. Headsets I just get better bass feeling.

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 10 днів тому +2

      @@dannamanna99 Clicks Likes to show love and Alg for DrogoDGN

  • @maik5344
    @maik5344 21 день тому +38

    "dont buy headphones, buy IEM´s instead" - tells us to do our own research for what to buy. why the fck did i came here then

  • @ppanosggian8633
    @ppanosggian8633 9 днів тому +4

    It's not the IEM fault on apex...sound just generally doesn't exist

  • @RegenNation
    @RegenNation 5 місяців тому +10

    great video and right to the point! tysm

  • @qazanbas3995
    @qazanbas3995 10 місяців тому +24

    Love ur videos man, keep it up

  • @epicshitz
    @epicshitz 8 місяців тому +222

    If you don't like IEMs for gaming and want actual headphones look for "studio" headphones, they don't really have "soundstage" but have a more neutral sound which is good for games where you need to hear where footsteps or where gunfire is coming from.

    • @MetaKnight964
      @MetaKnight964 7 місяців тому +23

      You need soundstage for distance.

    • @diegomora7608
      @diegomora7608 7 місяців тому +8

      not worth it, unless you have a problem with your ear canal.

    • @DerickMcAfee
      @DerickMcAfee 6 місяців тому +3

      Just get astro headset best headset iv evwr own3d for footsteps

    • @JMRVRGS
      @JMRVRGS 6 місяців тому +2

      7hz Salnotes Zero

    • @desibellsbeats
      @desibellsbeats 5 місяців тому +7

      Dt 990 pro 320 ohm + soundblaster g6

  • @Dead1yProductions
    @Dead1yProductions 2 місяці тому +13

    I've never had issues with comfort with headphones, to a degree i feel they are non issues and just like IEM's you need to look at what fits you best , not all ears are the same and not all heads are the same size .

  • @1JamesZ
    @1JamesZ 11 днів тому +7

    I use IEM’s from my session musician days, the sound quality is tonnes better than any gaming headset. If you game daily, it’s best to use over ears some of the time otherwise your ear becomes a Petri dish and you’ll find your ears feeling gunky and clogged after a couple of weeks of constant use

  • @Kazuki_Fuse
    @Kazuki_Fuse 8 місяців тому +19

    As someone who usually plays Devil Daggers on occasion I find myself preferring IEMs rather than my HD6XX due to the unique noises each entity plays.

    • @loYolVibes
      @loYolVibes 8 місяців тому +4

      Ayeee I didn’t know anyone else really plays that game

    • @Kazuki_Fuse
      @Kazuki_Fuse 8 місяців тому +4

      @@loYolVibesIt's hooked me in for the better part of a few years now, only recently getting a 900+ score just recently. Insanely fun.

    • @loYolVibes
      @loYolVibes 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Kazuki_Fuse sheeesh hell yea

  • @skyewasthelimit
    @skyewasthelimit Місяць тому +8

    I use IEM for live performance stuff and the one issue is ear wax build up and it can literally clog the sound canals. Other than that they are great! (Just clean your ears before use if you want to avoid this as much as possible)

  • @Zephyn
    @Zephyn 4 місяці тому +111

    Once I got into using IEMs I could not go back to gaming headsets or just headphones in general. They're just so much more comfortable when you're used to them, they sound so much better, and I've been able to hear things in-game better than I did with headsets. IEMs have also been so much more stylish, which is also very nice. Also, memory foam tips are super comfortable and help improve sound isolation and bass, which I am in love with.

    • @ohji_
      @ohji_ 4 місяці тому +2

      which IEM do you use most?

    • @Zephyn
      @Zephyn 4 місяці тому +5

      @@ohji_ Right now I've been using Moondrop Aria.
      I'm thinking of trying out either the 7hz Sonus or the Moondrop May next. I also used the Crinacle Zero in blue for a while which is also great, but I like how much louder the Aria gets.

    • @B1INK
      @B1INK 3 місяці тому +4

      I would say the sound is the biggest thing about iems I use truthear zerobut it needs a Apple usbc to aux I Donno why but useing this makes the sound 20% louder dose anyone know way that is I hear it’s cuz it has a built in ec?

    • @Divinity_vA
      @Divinity_vA Місяць тому +3

      Honestly, HyperX Clouds are very well optimized for CS, i've been called a wallhacker because i've heard stuff others don't. But sound like sh&t in general just like most other headsets. IEM's, i don't get some of the sound q's in-game but sound quality is superior overall, much clearer and comfort levels are so much better than heavy headset that strains your neck in an hour and squeezes your head like a lemon giving you a headache.

    • @FangMania9898
      @FangMania9898 Місяць тому +3

      how do you activate microphone the 3mm jack is only for audio right ......my pc is hv individually for mic jack and audio jack

  • @soloshottie
    @soloshottie 2 місяці тому +20

    "earbuds are better for comfort"
    okay but that's suuuuuuper preferential. I'd rather have earmuffs surrounding my ears than an earbud poking into my ear literally any day. if your headphones are hurting your ears, the shape and size of the earmuffs is probablt wrong and you should get a different headset

    • @sleeplessguardian
      @sleeplessguardian 4 дні тому +2

      i feel the same way, i just CANT belive that overears are less comfy then in ears, just doesnt make any sense, i use both i would allways take over ears all day over in ears.

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 2 дні тому +2

      @@sleeplessguardian What are your current IEM model used?

    • @chefcorey8142
      @chefcorey8142 7 годин тому

      Are you bald? Because that’s my biggest concern with over ear. It messes my hair up so bad.

    • @soloshottie
      @soloshottie 6 годин тому

      @@chefcorey8142 I'm not but I understand that problem

  • @SqueakyFishy
    @SqueakyFishy Місяць тому +4

    Go to system>sound and then turn off mono audio for headphone users, this gave me directional super hearing in games

  • @marianack111
    @marianack111 9 місяців тому +11

    You have Blon Bl03 that is 25 to 30 and has an amazing audio !

  • @shaolinmaster8583
    @shaolinmaster8583 10 днів тому +5

    A good rule of thumb if your head set sounds muted u need a amp dac stack or a dac with a built-in amp

    • @Markia-is9es
      @Markia-is9es 4 дні тому

      Which a good affordable amp to use with IEM set up

  • @herdiyanperdana
    @herdiyanperdana 2 місяці тому +5

    used to use aria se for gaming, now i'm using sundara for almost everything

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  2 місяці тому

      Sundaras are goated

  • @Nam_Nam2134
    @Nam_Nam2134 28 днів тому +4

    the logitech g435 is also very light and comptorable even for big ears like i have

  • @R3TR0J4N
    @R3TR0J4N 9 місяців тому +5

    I love how accesible they were even bang for your buck for 20-30$

  • @HollowRick
    @HollowRick 4 дні тому +4

    I've just done exactly this picked up some TruthHear Zero's theyre great for the price

    • @Markia-is9es
      @Markia-is9es 4 дні тому +2

      Which IEM model you get And how much

  • @makunouchiippo816
    @makunouchiippo816 3 місяці тому +8

    My hurting ear canals are saying NO to IEM's. 🙂

  • @HypoCT
    @HypoCT Місяць тому +5

    First time trying was awesome, and I wished I could invest more on this form factor. It's just not for me, comfort wise. Having things inside my ear is simply uncomfortable... and disgusting, even when I frequent bulb syringe and Q-tips combo. Quite jealous myself of people having these high quality audio, and most of the time cheaper than the headphone I invested in.

  • @karlvex
    @karlvex 16 днів тому +4

    I use a pair of HD800s for gaming but they're not suitable when playing VR so i had to pick some iems recently. I just bought my first pair of Hexa and i am very impressed for the price, even without a dac/amp they perform well. The soundstage is definitely cramped compared with what i'm used to but that's to be expected; impressive price-performance non-the-less and perhaps not the best choice of iem if used for vr gaming specifically. Moondrop Variations will be my next stop i think, unless anyone has any other recommendations solely for vr.

  • @rize6738
    @rize6738 Місяць тому +6

    For me i cant use iem, they fall out of my ear, or hurt my ears after 5 minutes.

  • @yowamidesu
    @yowamidesu 2 місяці тому +4

    Things marketed as "gaming" are typically mediocre to bad products that usually just have rgb slapped on to it. I've wasted more money than I'd like to admit on crappy headsets that would fall apart after a year or two and it wasn't until about ten to fifteen years of this that I finally just got a proper set of headphones that not only sounded better but were also comfortable for multiple hours and if I need voice chat, then that's as easy as getting a separate microphone.

  • @AlanGurling
    @AlanGurling Місяць тому +5

    I've spent too much money on IEMs and alas, I just can't get along with them. Very uncomfortable and fiddly to get a proper fit. But that's me.

  • @GrumpyBigZ
    @GrumpyBigZ 5 днів тому +2

    been using my bkg usb-c earbuds that came with my samsung phone years ago in the thunderbolt 4 port of my gaming laptop forever. mic works great & the little volume buttons even work. i could use bluetooth too but for gaming there could be slight lag. prefer wired when possible anyways.

  • @i9smurfs69
    @i9smurfs69 10 місяців тому +8

    I love my OH10s for music listening but they were sadly lacking in the gaming I felt.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому

      Def not the best value for gaming

  • @b3taw0lfvfx46
    @b3taw0lfvfx46 8 місяців тому +4

    a review for Ikko oh10 would be nice

  • @ARR3KKUSU
    @ARR3KKUSU 24 дні тому +5

    Studio headphones are infinitely better than gaming ones had some cuz I used a interface for music and gamed I would for sure go back when I have the chance

  • @jtnachos16
    @jtnachos16 2 місяці тому +7

    I think you maybe misunderstand something.
    IEMs have such 'clarity' mainly because of typcially much higher sensitivity and lower impedance than headphones. Most IEMs are literally 10ohms or less of impedance with sensitivities in excess of 110db. This means they don't need any sort of amping for hitting full soundstage and clarity, while most headphones bottom out at 32ohms impedance and are most frequently in the 90-100 range on sensitivity.
    This is why many 'gaming headphones' come with a usb dac+amp of some kind. It's also why many IEMs run into noise floors and hiss that requires a DAC or sometimes even an impedance adaptor of some kind to silence it.
    With over ear headphones, you need more power to fuel them. Without that power, you get more limited soundstage and clarity. They are also more effected by the cup shape,material, and the literal shape of your ears than IEMs are. For IEMs, so long as the seal is good, the tip pad is basically irrelevant aside comfort. Not so much on over ears. On ears are a different ball of wax entirely.
    There's also the issue of a lot of the common 'gaming headsets' being closed back, which tends to result in narrower soundstage and flawed imaging. You have to look at brands typically more 'non-gamer' to see open-back 'gamer headsets'. There's also issues with gamer-marketed headsets having tuning designed to emphasize certain ranges in frequency, that actually tend to just muddy things horribly, and many of the 'comes with the device' USB DAC/AMP things are actually hot garbo that do additional processing instead of just sending the signal. This gets worse as your budget drops, ftr. You'll find a LOT of benefit with even low tier 'gaming headphones' by adding a DAC into the mix.
    If you want good imaging, soundstage, and clarity out of headphones, you need to be looking at 'reference monitors' or 'studio headphones'. Even DT770 tends to be a massive step up in imaging over the typical 'gamer headset', and it's considered the 'king of entry level' for that, and that's with it being hampered by being closed back.

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +2

      Closed back means more bass clarity and bass in general. Open backs lack that

    • @jtnachos16
      @jtnachos16 2 місяці тому +3

      @@kapikopi It does not mean more 'bass clarity'. It means it's easier to get stronger bass. But it is not inherent that open backs have bad or muddy bass.

  • @Aaaump
    @Aaaump 10 місяців тому +9

    I want one of these, thanks for the review, nice video

  • @flamechicken415
    @flamechicken415 Місяць тому +4

    im going to buy the Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red and see how it compares to the Antlion Kimura Solo

  • @VesonoYT
    @VesonoYT Місяць тому +6

    I wish I could use IEMs, but I have a nickel allergy and it tends to cause flare-ups

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому +1

      There are some iems that have plastic bodies and brass nozzles

  • @doodlebug4947
    @doodlebug4947 8 місяців тому +14

    I have the Sennheiser PC38X as well as the Thieaudio Monarch MK3s. The MK3S are definitely better for gaming and just everything i mean they are like $800 higher lol. The Sennheisers are still good for music as well as gaming, thet are also very comfortable and since there openbacks they don't get nearly as hot as other headphones I've tried, highly recommend.

  • @user-ul2mx9xs4d
    @user-ul2mx9xs4d Місяць тому +7

    Considering how much u talk about comfort in this video u should research the Koss KSC75's. They are exceptional on-ears. Put them on a comfortable headband & u can wear em all day without even noticing that u are. Its like high quality sound just materializes in ur ears.
    Edit: I should have realized someone mentioned that already. they have a cult like following for a reason :D

  • @dan1mmm
    @dan1mmm 10 місяців тому +6

    Do you enable any sound booster or eq? Or just plugin and straight into games. Just bought HyperX Cloud3 and I felt too chonky on my head for long gaming.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому +1

      Straight into games

  • @user-bo8vc5pg9v
    @user-bo8vc5pg9v 6 місяців тому +7

    It doesnt matter which do you use, depends on which and what genre of games do you use if your games need pin point location then you need soundstage and bit more of high frequency for little bit clearer footstep for example, but you still have to use a DAC so the soundstage get more wider

    • @cameronmckinnon374
      @cameronmckinnon374 5 місяців тому +2

      yh, tarkov on the nectar hiveX can feel like cheating

  • @givemethesantahatfoo
    @givemethesantahatfoo 10 місяців тому +40

    You should check out the Koss Ksc75x's. I bought mine for 15$, applied 2 simple mods(headband + yaxi) and its beat out my x2hr, HD 559 and moon chus by a landslide in terms of comfort. Its essentially like having clouds on your ears that have incredible soundstage/imaging and solid tuning for the price. Excellent for gaming and very solid for everything else (especially with a bit of EQing).

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому +4

      I've always heard goods things about them. Just kinda hesitant because of looks ngl

    • @givemethesantahatfoo
      @givemethesantahatfoo 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@DrogoDGN I can't blame you with its unappealing "90's airplane headphones" look, lol.
      However, when it comes to comfort + price/performance, it's pretty much unbeatable, especially with the aforementioned (simple) mods. I was hesitant at first too, but when Crinacle gave it praises... I had to give it a try.
      Atleast think about it, haha. Great video, overall :).

    • @thatzaliasguy
      @thatzaliasguy 10 місяців тому +7

      I used the KSC75X mod on my Oculus Rift S back in the day!

    • @Mr-R.R.
      @Mr-R.R. 9 місяців тому +4

      @@givemethesantahatfoo nah for me anythung that's over the ear (like those) will never be as comfortable as IEMs. But good you were able to find it most comfortable tho

    • @givemethesantahatfoo
      @givemethesantahatfoo 9 місяців тому +3

      @@Mr-R.R. I was the same way too. I promise you it's different with the yaxi earpads. They are imported from Japan, and idk what they do to them, but it feels like actual clouds on my ears. That + the headband mod, which distributes what little pressure there is, all around your head... When I first started wearing them I'd walk away from my computer with them accidentally on sometimes... Insanely comfortable.

  • @CamrunThomas
    @CamrunThomas 10 місяців тому +7

    Ive used these for 2 years. used to use artic pros sold them instantly these are so much better

    • @CamrunThomas
      @CamrunThomas 10 місяців тому +2

      my ikkos shock my ears

  • @fpsLyle
    @fpsLyle 7 місяців тому +9

    Used Sennheiser 558s for 5+ years then 560s for another few years, got the Truthear Zeros last year and haven't even touched my senns, more comfortable, better sounds, better price, cannot lose.

    • @Andy-xn9zn
      @Andy-xn9zn 6 місяців тому +3

      Did you use an Amp and a Da with the hd650?

    • @Andy-xn9zn
      @Andy-xn9zn 6 місяців тому +3

      Dac*

    • @AYO_Shisui
      @AYO_Shisui 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Andy-xn9zn yeah got to if you want the full sound

  • @rubendiaz3452
    @rubendiaz3452 Місяць тому +2

    i bought these on amazon and it had white noise. just plugged into my pc without any audio playing you can hear white noise and i couldnt stand it. i got a replacement from amazon and it had the same issue. ive heard these iems are some of the best but getting two defective ones ruined it for me.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому +1

      White noise could be caused by your amp. Pc amps are not always the best. Also all iems react differently to different amps, it mightve been a bad iem, a bad iem, or a mix of both. Or also the iem requires a better amp.

    • @rubendiaz3452
      @rubendiaz3452 Місяць тому +1

      @@DrogoDGN i see, are there any budget amps i can buy for my pc to plug them into? i dont know how it works, if its that simple

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому

      @rubendiaz3452 Sorry, I'm not too well informed on amps, but I'm using the Drop sdac + amp. There are also the topping dx1 amp dac and moondrop amps.

  • @pyro7150
    @pyro7150 2 місяці тому +4

    for me those kind of earphones dont work as my ears cant hold them inside without slipping out so the only option is the headset kind

  • @christopherdedeck
    @christopherdedeck Місяць тому +1

    How do you not talk about the fact that they don’t have a Mic?
    Would be cool if you offered up a solution

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому

      Because headphones don't either. There are some iems like the Kimura that have mics

  • @SM-jb1so
    @SM-jb1so 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video! What keyboard is it you got? Looks cool as hell

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  2 місяці тому +1

      Oblirated75

    • @SM-jb1so
      @SM-jb1so Місяць тому +1

      @@DrogoDGN thank you!

  • @vipeshadowv2571
    @vipeshadowv2571 4 місяці тому +2

    I have the Moondrop Chu II's but the problem I have especially in FPS's is that the sound sounds like its coming from all directions. I'll hear shooting across the map like its right next to me and just no directional sounding.

  • @rogerhuston8287
    @rogerhuston8287 Місяць тому +3

    I am an audiophile. Bang for the buck, IEMs beat headphones at most pricepoints under $200. I would argue that extends to $750 to $1000, as in a $500 IEM will give more than a $500 headphone, usually. But there are really good IEMs for under $100, JoJos are li,e $20.. OH10s, are known for their bass as they pack a punch. While IEMs may not pack the widest stage, they are very good and imaging so you know the exact direction of footsteps. I wear headphones for a mic and comms, but when my head hurts i switch to IEMs.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому

      Wonderfully said

    • @epicardsdotcom1300
      @epicardsdotcom1300 10 днів тому

      Bro, let's give some love to DrogoDGN. He spent countless hours and money to provide free tech reviews for everyone! Hit the Likes to help bring this candid review to others.

  • @phronesis1642
    @phronesis1642 3 місяці тому +2

    I need a microphone tho

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  3 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/ae4vqC-od84/v-deo.htmlsi=zpkC2n6AcQxILITy

  • @MTHEGAMER35
    @MTHEGAMER35 Місяць тому +6

    dude money is not an issue for me i am more interested in comfort i dont mind spending 500 or a thousand if it means my ears dont hurt i wanna be able to hear my self talk while having excellent audio quality

  • @unpackinglife
    @unpackinglife 7 днів тому +3

    Very reliable and sturdy. I like the wire quality more than the usual earphones.

    • @Markia-is9es
      @Markia-is9es 4 дні тому +2

      Totally. Newer IEM is best not just good quality and affordable pricing

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 16 годин тому

      What about affordability of IEMs?

  • @chronicmayhem
    @chronicmayhem 4 місяці тому +4

    For non IEMs the Sennheiser 560s are awesome

  • @ChristianYoung
    @ChristianYoung 9 місяців тому +6

    Have you used any open back iems? Was wondering if that would help with the weirdness while talking since it removes a lot of the isolation

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  9 місяців тому +1

      Not sure. It probably would, I've heard good things about the raptgo hook x which I think are open back iems.

    • @ChristianYoung
      @ChristianYoung 9 місяців тому +1

      Ya I was looking at those and they’re a little steeper priced than what I was hoping for…I think I should just make the jump on some less expensive ones and see if the isolation even bothers me. I’ve been using Arctis 7s with leather pads for years now and have never used Steelseries’s side tone or anything to monitor the mic so I honestly might already be used to similar isolation

  • @dfran5314
    @dfran5314 6 місяців тому +2

    i bout the cca cra but the bass is so loud it makes my ears blead with gun shots in all the games. Ive tired EQ but nothing worked.

  • @Tyson_Tv_
    @Tyson_Tv_ 3 місяці тому +1

    whats the name of the song in the backround at 1minute15seconds?

  • @Elc22
    @Elc22 2 місяці тому +4

    I am surprised to see the OH10 being used for gaming. Don't get me wrong, my OH10 are my babies, and are absolutely amazing for the kind of music I listen to, but they are not good for gaming. Their imaging is mediocre and their sound stage is moderately close. For competitive games, you want imaging and soundstage as the main strengths, which means either a neutral or bright sound signature most likely. You can also go for something with a slight V shape signature. The OH10 is a heavy V, close to U shape signature, amazing for electronic music and will give you a nice brain massage, but gives you fuzzy directional audio for pinpointing the location of things.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  2 місяці тому

      At the time, the oh10 weren't my main gaming iems, I just used them for this video cause they looked nice on camera.

  • @KoNine9
    @KoNine9 4 місяці тому +4

    If you have a dac and put in your iems and mic, you should be able to mix your voice into your iems or nah? 😅

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  4 місяці тому

      Depends on the dac

  • @ephemerisone74
    @ephemerisone74 4 місяці тому +2

    zero red's i would argue are better than just the zero's. extra attachment for more bass which would be better for gaming if you wanna hear deeper footsteps (footsteps more clearer) also good great soundstage, same as zero's

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +1

      Zero reds have more neutral tuning with a sub boost rather than the v shaped tuning of the zeros.

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +1

      Much better for music and has extremely low amounts of distortion. It’s better for gaming too imo

  • @inforced
    @inforced 10 місяців тому +4

    would 30-40 usd iems perform good compared to headphones in the same price range? I don't listen to music unless a game, movie or video has it

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, the budget iem market is exploding, and competition is crazy down there. 30 40 dollar headphones have really just been super cheap and bad. I would say 30 40 iems could prob beat most headphones even at the 100 market. I have 200 dollar iems, and they've been barely any better than iems at 50 or below. 7hz zero, moondrop chu 2, and truther hola are really good cheap options.

  • @lunafreya8935
    @lunafreya8935 3 місяці тому +3

    Hey man, I don't know if you comment your older videos but would you recommend Moondrop CHU II?

  • @cydeYT
    @cydeYT 8 місяців тому +4

    Try out the ksc75

  • @andru5576
    @andru5576 11 днів тому +4

    Hey man I have given the truth ear zeros a try before and I ended up hating them they didn’t sound good for gaming at all I’m wondering if it’s mandatory to be using a DAC to properly utilize them

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  11 днів тому

      No it's not mandatory

  • @Venoxium
    @Venoxium 7 місяців тому +3

    IEMs seem really nice but I have over producing earwax. To give you an example, if I don't clean out my ears via water every 1.5weeks then I will literally wake up with the sound missing from one or both of my ears. It's sad though because I've tried some REALLY good IEMs that were cheap. Unfortunate.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  7 місяців тому

      There are some amazing headphones atleast. Just a little bit more cash

  • @andycampbell8622
    @andycampbell8622 2 місяці тому +6

    IEMs also cause ear infections 😂
    Worth

  • @Jan99505
    @Jan99505 5 місяців тому +1

    what is the track in the background at 1:12 ?

  • @paulrv6024
    @paulrv6024 6 місяців тому +2

    I have the KZ zs10 pro X, which are pretty damn good. Unfortunately, plugging them into my pc gives a lot of static noise. So I have been looking for solutions like a dac or amp. What do you use?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  6 місяців тому

      Drop o2 amp and dac

    • @willy7968
      @willy7968 5 місяців тому +2

      I use the same but I didn't notice any static noise, try plugging it to the motherboard

  • @y0Fiqqy
    @y0Fiqqy 10 місяців тому +4

    Sadly because of my earshape the Oh10’s are so u comfortable after 3 hours of use due to irritation and just my ears being a little small

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому

      Understandable, we're all different

  • @sprince5951
    @sprince5951 5 місяців тому +5

    I hope my comment doesn't get lost in here. This might be a stupid question but the IEM's you recommended, they of course come with a mic right?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  5 місяців тому

      No, iems and headphone usually do not include microphones

  • @meffmeffmeff
    @meffmeffmeff 5 місяців тому +4

    You can hear yourself MORE while using IEMs/closed back headphones? What in the world are you talking about?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  5 місяців тому

      That's what I said in the video

  • @b3taw0lfvfx46
    @b3taw0lfvfx46 10 місяців тому +5

    i use the Fiio JH3 , they are good for gaming or i should look for a DEDICATED gaming iem?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому +2

      Most people don't use dedicated gaming iems so you shouldn't either. Also I don't think there are really "gaming" specific iems. Theres just iems that are also really good for gaming.

  • @stefanooi840
    @stefanooi840 10 місяців тому +15

    Been using the Truthear Hexa with spinfit W1 eartips that do definitely increase the soundstage. Been real good on valorant and haven't touched my headphones since

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому +1

      Def gotta try that combo

    • @aidencraft32
      @aidencraft32 10 місяців тому +3

      got my hexa 2 days ago, it's great.

    • @nomadvalley4247
      @nomadvalley4247 8 місяців тому +1

      Hey brathar have you tried the SIMGOT EM6L ?? I was told it's really good for FPS games like Valorant?

  • @rachod6531
    @rachod6531 Місяць тому +5

    My $15 iems have more sound quality than my AirPods Pro’s and my Logitech Pro X headset

  • @heliorego6695
    @heliorego6695 8 місяців тому +6

    I have the dioko, i3 pro, s12 pro and others. But my favorite to play games is the kz as10.

    • @Rorensuwl8
      @Rorensuwl8 8 місяців тому +1

      Do you recommend Dioko? Can you share your thoughts about it?

    • @heliorego6695
      @heliorego6695 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Rorensuwl8 hi. Do you mean to play games?

    • @omzxa8415
      @omzxa8415 8 місяців тому +1

      do u recommend the dioko ? for music and a little bit of gaming

    • @heliorego6695
      @heliorego6695 8 місяців тому +1

      @@omzxa8415 Yes, but it depends on your musical preference. It is not an IEM basshead. I like it for songs with more vocals.

  • @TheGameDealer
    @TheGameDealer Місяць тому +4

    what iem would you recommend right now for gaming ? my budget is 150 to 200 dollars. i've been looking into thrutear nova and pula 02 but idk what to choose and whats better for music AND gaming. do you have anything in mind ?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  Місяць тому

      I don't have a lot of experience in that range, but my favorite is the raptgo hook x. I haven't used those iems sorry

  • @Qmasbb_
    @Qmasbb_ 7 місяців тому +5

    thanks for the review

  • @fish4096
    @fish4096 5 місяців тому +3

    Upvote if you have the Moondrop Blessing 3 and loving it for gaming and music

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +1

      Too poor… but the zero:reds do the job

  • @GrumpyBigZ
    @GrumpyBigZ 5 днів тому +3

    Lenovo also released some gaming usb-c earbuds.

    • @Markia-is9es
      @Markia-is9es 4 дні тому +1

      Which IEM model you recommend ?

  • @timaragon
    @timaragon 4 місяці тому +30

    As someone who has owned all these IEMs, if you plan on playing competitive games, stay FAR, FAR away from the Moondrop Aria. You will hear footsteps in Overwatch, Valorant or Siege, and they will sound very, very off. They will not be accurate at all and will only confuse you because of the subpad imaging and soundstage depth and space accuracy. Save yourself the trouble and only use the 7hz Salnotes zero and the Truthear x Crinacle Zero. My personal recommendation though is the Moondrop Chu 2 because the build is better quality than the 7hz Salnotes Zero and will do just as well in games.

    • @dawnonyt1
      @dawnonyt1 2 місяці тому +4

      do you need an amp for these iems? im planning to buy the 7hz for valorant

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +3

      Zero red is objectively better

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому +4

      @@dawnonyt1 get the zero:red. It’s an updated version with much higher clarity and less distortion with a more natural sounding tuning with a sub bass boost for footsteps. The zeros, zero reds, and 7hz zero all have dynamic drivers which means they are very easy to drive, my phone can run it without problems. Btw i would personally spend the extra bucks on the zero red instead of the 7hz zero or zero 2, they sound good for the price but are lacking in bass and don’t come close to the zero reds. The zero reds perform on par with 150-200$iems from just a year ago

    • @sethviews
      @sethviews Місяць тому +3

      Any words on the kiwi ears orchestra lites?

    • @TheAroc23
      @TheAroc23 23 дні тому +3

      @@kapikopiwould you still recommend the zero reds?

  • @Santiachu
    @Santiachu 3 місяці тому +2

    I just don’t want a head dent

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 5 днів тому

      What do you mean by head dent? IEM head dent lol?

  • @frechdachs1612
    @frechdachs1612 10 місяців тому +5

    What about the crinacle zero reds? Are they worse for gaming?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому

      Haven't tried, but from other reviews, it's pretty much the same but with slightly different tuning. Less bass and more neutral sounding if that'd what you're going for. That translates to less booming explosions with the red, which could mean easier to hear footsteps but less fun in game. But again, it was still easy to hear footsteps with the zero.

  • @bimbotv3324
    @bimbotv3324 7 місяців тому +2

    What can you advise in the price segment of 200€ for games? I looked for a moondrop kato, I don't know if it's a good choice

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  7 місяців тому +1

      Kato is ok but the raptgo hook x is a good option

    • @bimbotv3324
      @bimbotv3324 7 місяців тому

      @@DrogoDGN Thank you very much for the advice, I've been thinking about buying for so long. Unfortunately, I can't find them in my country. Only "Raptgo Bridge" is for sale

  • @samuelozer6850
    @samuelozer6850 4 місяці тому +2

    beyerdynamics headphones beat IEMs any day of the week. I mean most streams use beyerdymanics for a reason. headphones all the way

  • @sNiPeR95PwnZ
    @sNiPeR95PwnZ 10 місяців тому +5

    Using a DT880 Pro for years now. Always thought about IEMs because the comfort.
    Here my question - is this in ear on par comparing it to my Beyerdynamic

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  10 місяців тому

      Never really used a beyerdynamic, sorry about that

    • @thaNZdon
      @thaNZdon 7 місяців тому +4

      I can answer that. I used the DT 990's for years. Then got the DT 770's. Then got the MMX300's with the cow hide leather pads. Then got the TYGR300 with the fenestrated leather pads (Which is an absolutely GLORIOUS headphone btw) AND THEN i got the Truthear Crin Zero's and never went back. I have recently got the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite's and my god man - this is it. I have found Truly end game audio for my gaming needs. All powered through my GSX1000 DAC + Ifi Zen Can Amp.

    • @CollegeTakeTwo
      @CollegeTakeTwo 6 місяців тому +3

      @@thaNZdonbetter for positioning?

    • @AYO_Shisui
      @AYO_Shisui 6 місяців тому +2

      @@thaNZdon which one headphone the best for cod ? for them footsteps?

    • @User-ys7cb
      @User-ys7cb 4 місяці тому +2

      I tried many different Beyerdynamic headphones and I liked the TYGR the best, even better than the DT 1990. I recently got a Sennheiser HD 490 Pro and a Simgot EM6L. I like the IEM for the price, but the HD 490 Pro is much better for music and gaming, like it's not even close imo. Maybe I have to try some more expensive IEMs like the Xenns Top.

  • @Xyloid_XD
    @Xyloid_XD Місяць тому +2

    0:31 what kinda IEMs is that?

  • @viewer917
    @viewer917 4 місяці тому +3

    Yoo I play a lot of apex too would you recommend some IEM? I had some KZ ZS10 Pro, but hey started leaking adhesive, so I had to get some new ones. I bought some Truthear Hexa but they didn't come with a mic
    Anything you can recommend would work as long as it had a good mic like the KZ ZS10 Pro

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  4 місяці тому

      Sorry I don't use iems with mics usually since there's not a lot of choices. Sorry about that

    • @onlybetasgetoffendedbystri8030
      @onlybetasgetoffendedbystri8030 3 місяці тому +1

      Were they good? I just ordered those, could you hear all the footsteps?

  • @diegomora7608
    @diegomora7608 7 місяців тому +4

    i'm just gonna say this, a iem that cost 150 is the equivalent of a 550 to 800 dollars over ear headphones in sound quality, and i'm not talking about gaming headphones, i'm talking about brands like hifiman, sennheiser, bayerdynamic etc... now let that sink in.

    • @PantsaBear
      @PantsaBear 7 місяців тому

      Ive never heard an IEM that gives me the same sound a $550+ Hifiman has at any price, yet alone one at $150. Planar sound on headphones is its own thing, and even planar IEMs have a long way to go to get that good
      But yeah a $150 IEM gets you more bang for your buck than $150 in the headphone world. What you said about Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic Ill agree with. But the Focals, Meze 109 Pro, and most modern Audezes aren't getting outmatched by IEMs from Truthears, 7Hz, and Kiwi Ears. Also IEMs arent nearly as durable as headphones (which may not matter to some, but its the truth)
      If someone only had $150 or less though and weren't going to upgrade their budget anytime soon, yeah IEMs are the way to go

  • @enriquescarano7309
    @enriquescarano7309 3 місяці тому +1

    Any reccomendations for budget (under 50) IEM with microphone included?
    Thanks in advance c:

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  3 місяці тому

      Sorry I haven't tried many with microphone

  • @tomm5270
    @tomm5270 2 місяці тому +3

    Is ie200 or 400 good for fps like valorant and cs

  • @shaolinmaster8583
    @shaolinmaster8583 10 днів тому +3

    If your on pc high quality headphones because you can down load plug ins and you can use actual audio equipment that can properly drive them....like amps and dacs....there is a lot to unpack when it comes to understanding audio....if it says mixing headset don't purchase it

  • @IntricateMoon
    @IntricateMoon 27 днів тому +11

    Noone is gonna talk about the lack of microphones on IEMs?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  27 днів тому +3

      I'm comparing them to headphones, which don't have mics either. Headphones aren't headsets (which have mics). There is also the kimura duo which does have a mic and there's a review of it on ny channel

    • @IntricateMoon
      @IntricateMoon 27 днів тому +2

      @@DrogoDGN Thanks Drogo! will definitely check it out :D

    • @epicardsdotcom1300
      @epicardsdotcom1300 10 днів тому

      @@IntricateMoon Bro, let's give some love to DrogoDGN. He spent countless hours and money to provide free tech reviews for everyone! Hit the Likes to help bring this candid review to others.

  • @Teknickel
    @Teknickel 7 місяців тому +3

    Awww yeee, IEM gaming supremacy boiiiiiiii

  • @jarmago7750
    @jarmago7750 4 місяці тому +3

    I'm using Truhear x Crinacle Zero for fps gaming but I noticed, I can't pin point where the footsteps are coming from. Do I need an amplifier to fix this?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  4 місяці тому +1

      For me it was decent, an amp won't fix that issue.

    • @jarmago7750
      @jarmago7750 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DrogoDGN Thanks, bro!

    • @B1INK
      @B1INK 3 місяці тому +1

      One thing I will say is I use a Apple aux to usbc and if I don’t use it the sound is 20$ lower for foot steps and gunshots for zeros still use them everyday but this makes a huge difference

  • @HellGatyr
    @HellGatyr 3 місяці тому +3

    But soundstage is what make gaming more impressive
    But for footstep or other audio cue maybe IEM is better for less noise

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  3 місяці тому

      Well, soundstage is important. I was trying to imply that the difference between them shouldn't be that big where it completely is night and day. Also I think that gaming headphones from like brands like razer and Corsair heavily lack soundstage anyways.

  • @peejeybrown
    @peejeybrown 7 місяців тому +6

    you need a top 5 iem recommendation for this coming year end imo

    • @Criptooooo
      @Criptooooo 4 місяці тому +1

      SIMGOT EM6L top notch

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 5 днів тому

      What are your top 5 IEM bro

  • @MR_GT78
    @MR_GT78 3 місяці тому +2

    Do they have mics? I am thinking of getting some for my son when he plays on console.

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  3 місяці тому +1

      Most of them do not, the Kimura Duo, which I have a review of, does have a microphone

  • @VincentAmadeus
    @VincentAmadeus 16 годин тому +2

    The cable too short if I using iem, it really not comfortable man

  • @Eddneton94
    @Eddneton94 20 днів тому +2

    1:15 hard disaggre on the compfort par.
    why ears will start to hurt when i wear inears more than 1 hour

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  20 днів тому

      Are all of them like that? You might've just gotten unlucky with some that just don't fit personally well

  • @KDoGGXz
    @KDoGGXz 5 місяців тому +3

    These look good. Question: I am looking for a pair to where the mute button is low, or by the hands placement. Not too far of a travel distance from hands. Also, a pair to where there is no discomfort inside the ear …. Any recommendations?

    • @DrogoDGN
      @DrogoDGN  5 місяців тому

      There's no mics on iems usually. Ik there are some iem cables with mics that you can buy aftermarket. And in not sure what you mean by the 2nd question, iems are generally very similar in comfort

  • @kolbasor1843
    @kolbasor1843 10 місяців тому +4

    Do i need a mixer or a soundboard to use IEMS for gaming?

  • @ErikMoody
    @ErikMoody 4 місяці тому +1

    I bought a pair for gaming (FPS), plugged them in listened to them for about 45 seconds (even tried a DAC). Unplugged them and they have been in the drawer ever since. Do not buy these to play video games, especially for play FPS. The sound is like you have 1000 clock radio speakers taped to your ear. It's comfy but sounds horrible, IMO.

  • @angeldagr8829
    @angeldagr8829 4 місяці тому +2

    it terms of gaming proplayers have to play with whatever headset is at the tournament skill issue tbh

    • @kapikopi
      @kapikopi 2 місяці тому

      Top end headphones, of course they don’t complain

  • @revotalizer7504
    @revotalizer7504 8 місяців тому +4

    IKKO OH10 One of my absole favourites.. i have about 15 iems from 20dollars up to 2000 dollars.. i actually reccomens ikko oh10 or get the letshouer s12 or s12 pro... s12 pro more bass

    • @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments
      @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments 6 місяців тому +2

      I love ikko oh10s ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
      Best headphones for game is HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite
      Best overall ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @Tommy-te2lg
      @Tommy-te2lg 3 дні тому +2

      You have a tier list of IEM?

    • @revotalizer7504
      @revotalizer7504 3 дні тому

      @@Tommy-te2lg i don’t… but if you want absolute quality for just 20$ go for tangzu wan’er… hidizs mp145 is an absolute banger for gaming and listening to music for about $150… then tangzu zetian wu heyday edition is goated for $200-250…