Maynard James Keenan on how the Fibonacci Sequence inspired the lyrics/rhythm for LATERALUS

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  • Maynard James Keenan describes his different writing process for TOOL, A Perfect Circle, and Puscifer. He then delves into the fibonacci inspired underpinnings of Lateralus.
    From JRE #986
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  • @maciejtrybilo
    @maciejtrybilo 4 роки тому +9117

    The Fibonacci Sequence definitely inspired the timing of their album releases.

    • @Dustomatic
      @Dustomatic 4 роки тому +98

      Maciej Trybilo I see what you did there.

    • @deansinghgill
      @deansinghgill 4 роки тому +232

      Most underrated comment of 2019

    • @obsidiansiriusblackheart
      @obsidiansiriusblackheart 4 роки тому +71

      Nah you're thinking of the exponential sequence 😂

    • @typhoonf6
      @typhoonf6 4 роки тому +154

      @@obsidiansiriusblackheart the fibonacci sequence is exponential...

    • @giveusascream
      @giveusascream 4 роки тому +8

      Genius

  • @Nozgh
    @Nozgh 4 роки тому +4731

    Tool fans: they are geniuses
    Maynard: it was an accident

    • @spittingvenom9148
      @spittingvenom9148 4 роки тому +58

      Sarcasm: good job

    • @musicislife6250
      @musicislife6250 4 роки тому +65

      @Mark Peel He is just a troll. Dont feed him

    • @Carimbo575
      @Carimbo575 4 роки тому +81

      Lol also:
      Tool fans: this is the best song ever!
      Maynard: I could do better

    • @schism6976
      @schism6976 4 роки тому +12

      Reality: Who gives s shit

    • @JoshandMegSkelton
      @JoshandMegSkelton 4 роки тому +35

      @@janjuko4024 you hate tool? I never thought that I would hear someone say that ever.

  • @iamgreg3834
    @iamgreg3834 5 років тому +5885

    as soon as the cameras were off, they smoked dmt and rubbed their bald heads together

  • @larrycooper5328
    @larrycooper5328 4 роки тому +1628

    I love how their most analyzed song ever is the song that the lyrics warn you not to over think or over analyze things. Complete genius work.

    • @JEEPTHING881
      @JEEPTHING881 2 роки тому +69

      Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind
      Withering my intuition leaving opportunities behind
      Feed my will to feel this moment
      Urging me to cross the line
      Reaching out to embrace the random
      Reaching out to embrace whatever may come
      No warning. We are being told to over think and over analyze. Question everything. That's what we also get from the golden ratio. It's in our design yet intelligence in our design isn't questioned. Only we evolved from monkeys due to coincidence. No man. Swing on the spiral or our divinity. No warnings. Only encouragement.

    • @Bandikoot-br2xg
      @Bandikoot-br2xg Рік тому

      Which song?

    • @Rubar123
      @Rubar123 Рік тому +1

      @@Bandikoot-br2xgLateralus

    • @jasonduvall6565
      @jasonduvall6565 Рік тому +2

      @@JEEPTHING881 agreed, but in my life overthinking and overanalyzing. , Alienates me from all around me. , So I've learned to tone it down. ,and dumb myself down , adapt to my peers. ,

    • @shaegse
      @shaegse Рік тому

      You gotta stop.

  • @whygodrums10
    @whygodrums10 6 років тому +5263

    this is like the only maynard interview where maynard is actually answering the questions seriously.

    • @SPIRALOUT9084
      @SPIRALOUT9084 6 років тому +574

      John Stramiello i honestly think it's because Joe Rogan can hold a conversation with an interviewee and not ask immediately about Tool albums lol

    • @hunterrobinson7682
      @hunterrobinson7682 6 років тому +397

      Or also because Maynard doesn't hold himself above Joe in a physical or mental level.

    • @NoBody-tz4fb
      @NoBody-tz4fb 6 років тому +25

      Hunter Robinson exactly

    • @WhackashitCollaborations
      @WhackashitCollaborations 6 років тому +134

      It's cuz they're actual friends. This isn't an interview, just two guys having conversation.

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 6 років тому +74

      Its a conversation with a friend as opposed and interviewer who has an agenda. You can tell the guests joe is friends with because a) they are on multiple times b) it feels more like a natural conversation than an interviewer/interviewee relationship.

  • @hoyit
    @hoyit 6 років тому +4174

    If he thinks he can do better than Lateralus then I can't wait to hear it.

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 років тому +6

      hoyit haha

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 6 років тому +162

      didn't they already?... i think it was called aenema

    • @gabenewell5577
      @gabenewell5577 6 років тому +302

      Not Important Aenema was good but it wasnt better than Lateralus lol

    • @travisdorsey139
      @travisdorsey139 6 років тому +74

      No shit. I'm not sure that's humanly possible. But then again, they aren't human.

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 6 років тому +10

      well, to my taste it was

  • @SuyashJ
    @SuyashJ 4 роки тому +418

    Joe 'that Fibonacci song' Rogan

    • @dakotasansonetti1752
      @dakotasansonetti1752 4 роки тому +18

      James "it was kind of a dick joke" Keenan

    • @AllOneVoice
      @AllOneVoice 3 роки тому +4

      Literally his whole thing about anything important or remotely intelligent “oh yeah dude I think I saw this thing right? Isn’t that crazy?” A little bit about a lot and everything about nothing

  • @CL-ey8vw
    @CL-ey8vw 5 років тому +212

    For some reason, when I look at these guys I think about bowling.

  • @JohnDoe-ww6we
    @JohnDoe-ww6we 5 років тому +3926

    What most tool fans don't realize is Maynard is a god level troll.

    • @epicpandashow10
      @epicpandashow10 5 років тому +293

      John Doe every Tool fan knows this, wtf?

    • @davethorp7179
      @davethorp7179 5 років тому +226

      Nah, he's just an asshole. The genius of it is that the tool army can't get enough of it.

    • @daxmoon3440
      @daxmoon3440 5 років тому +33

      Is he trolling us in the video?

    • @piggiesfly1093
      @piggiesfly1093 5 років тому +37

      Dax Moon
      Hell ya he is!
      He’s a freakin genius

    • @aaronroberts6100
      @aaronroberts6100 5 років тому +70

      He's both an asshole and a troll but we love him for it. Also he's a pure genius the deep meaning of tools songs omg

  • @metalblade8787
    @metalblade8787 6 років тому +1340

    this was ONE podcast away from #987 god damnit

    • @MichaelSartore
      @MichaelSartore 5 років тому +48

      MetalBlade holy fuckin shit

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo 5 років тому +12

      Wtf

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 5 років тому +6

      right babe?

    • @XxChaosWitchxX
      @XxChaosWitchxX 5 років тому +6

      they must have deleted one... quest to find the lostcast.... and.... go!

    • @josephbastidas3561
      @josephbastidas3561 5 років тому +30

      Damn, wasted opportunity. Hopefully he has Maynard on again for #1597

  • @42cpulaski
    @42cpulaski 4 роки тому +106

    best live band I've ever seen. Tool plays so incredibly tight with unbelievable rhythmic accuracy.

    • @Jahoo88
      @Jahoo88 5 місяців тому

      Saw them on Sunday the 19th in Montreal, most amazing show I’ve seen aside from Skinny Puppy (twice) and NIN when I was a teen.

  • @mraso30
    @mraso30 3 роки тому +89

    987 is the Fib number, just if anyone is interested, looked it up. The song is amazing (Lateralus), not only did Maynard use Fib numbers/sequence for the syllables of the lyrics, but the lyrics themselves "Spiral out, keep going..." and when you map out fib numbers in a quadrant it makes a spiral (seen at 3:15). Of course there's more to the lyrics and meaning behind them than "Fibonacci was cool" it is about opening yourself up more and more to the world and feelings and emotions and to take it all on with an embracing attitude. Spiral out, keep going!

  • @Ceejnew
    @Ceejnew 5 років тому +343

    Lateralus is a beautifully composed, thoughtful composition that incorporates its time signature into the very meaning of the song. The inclusion of the Fibonacci sequence is a brilliant accompaniment to the lyrical theme of growth and discovery.
    Maynard says "It's kind of a dick-joke, I could do better."

    • @ashislam5165
      @ashislam5165 4 роки тому +20

      Maynard knows how people see him as the genius lyricist in Tool, but won't let that put a stick up his arse like alot of other artists, he's just being modest and trolling himself, what a guy!

    • @sicariusflamus3033
      @sicariusflamus3033 4 роки тому +10

      Ash Islam maynard doesnt let the fame go to his brain which is honestly so commendable and i applaud him for it

    • @jenniferszych3383
      @jenniferszych3383 2 роки тому +3

      One of my absolute favorite Tool songs. It's like listening to a symphony of the meaning of life. He's an artist. so of course he is always going to feel he could've
      done better. Even though the song is perfection in itself...

    • @michaelhanford8139
      @michaelhanford8139 2 роки тому

      I thought he said it was an accident that he turned into a dick joke🤷
      😉🤘

  • @idleave
    @idleave 6 років тому +524

    “I could have done better.” -a true artist!

    • @Itsunclegabby
      @Itsunclegabby 4 роки тому +3

      Definitely.

    • @Ridiculizer
      @Ridiculizer Рік тому

      Humblebrag.

    • @twitchholland
      @twitchholland 7 місяців тому +1

      Bold statement. I'd like to hear your stuff. It must b pretty good if you think u can do better than a G.O.A.T

    • @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl
      @JosephWilhoit-ef6nl 5 місяців тому

      ​@@twitchhollandMaynard is the goat in my opinion. But opinions are like bungholes everyone has one but most of them stink

  • @arie6523
    @arie6523 3 роки тому +51

    He should have Dany on sometime, it’d be cool to learn more about the specifics about the timing and meter changes etc. from him.

  • @muttonbuster
    @muttonbuster 4 роки тому +144

    This from an old Adam Jones interview in Kerrang: "Well, on that song, Justin brought in a riff, and Danny saw it had a connection to the Fibonacci, so he started trying to work in elements of it.
    Then Maynard came in and we started telling him about the sequence. It came from trying to relate to those things in life or nature we all have in common." - In other words, not only was it not Maynard's idea (it was Danny's), Maynard was mathematically illiterate to the extent that he needed to be explained what the Fib sequence was.

    • @Charlie_Xplorer
      @Charlie_Xplorer 2 роки тому +16

      Mathematically illiterate? On Maynard's wikipedia it says this on his upbringing: "In addition to completing a rigorous math and English curriculum, Keenan wrestled, ran on the cross country team, and sang in the glee club".
      I think he would know stuff about math.

    • @gallavanting2041
      @gallavanting2041 Рік тому +13

      How do you get "Mathematically illiterate" from "hey look at this thing bro"? If I try to show my friend a song is he now deaf?

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats Рік тому

      @@gallavanting2041 yeah that was a reach if i ever saw one lol

    • @StrivedeLaLear
      @StrivedeLaLear Рік тому +1

      The song to me is a statement on itself. That's why it's so ironically brilliant. It's not meant to be understood and only then can you understand it.

    • @aneroidschoolhouse
      @aneroidschoolhouse Рік тому

      He called it pedestrian and sophomoric. What an ass. I have seen them 7 times and really Tool, but it's not for Maynard, I'll tell you that. Danny and Adam for the win

  • @brandino2427
    @brandino2427 6 років тому +2621

    There's so much bald going on

    • @ting2112
      @ting2112 6 років тому +42

      Accented by shine.

    • @CrowdedIsolation11
      @CrowdedIsolation11 5 років тому +10

      Brandino2 daney carey invented the original Fibonacci sequence while taking a dump on a tuesday afternoon.
      The more you know!

    • @ChaosShake94
      @ChaosShake94 5 років тому +7

      I gotta get my sunglasses just watch the pure awesomeness.

    • @kingloser4198
      @kingloser4198 5 років тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/i8GaFuo4svQ/v-deo.html

    • @flutistnotflautist4740
      @flutistnotflautist4740 5 років тому +13

      Lots of testosterone.

  • @binglemansachs4187
    @binglemansachs4187 5 років тому +57

    Story my friend told me:
    "when i was in college I walked into my dorm on the day Lateralus came out and my room mate was blasting it full volume and standing on top of his dresser, pushing himself against the ceiling. He looked at me and yelled "It's too good! I can't get any higher!""

  • @S4UBSTR4LIEN_M4RRSUPI4L
    @S4UBSTR4LIEN_M4RRSUPI4L 10 місяців тому +8

    Despite being my birth month & year (9/86), it is still a shame that this wasn't episode #987, just for the further Fibonacci Sequence + 'Lateralus' coincidences that would entail. For those who don't know, there is more on that below:
    "For me, the song 'Lateralus' was the turning point. I wrote a bar of nine, a bar of eight, and a bar of seven, and we originally called the song '987.' I saw it as something that kept getting shorter and shorter and, like a spiral, it kind of folds in on itself. And Maynard had no idea what I was thinking when he went to track the vocals. But as the song's folding and changing, he's singing about the idea of a spiral and how you're basically trying to achieve something that's never been achieved and you have to keep reaching for something that you don't understand. I thought that was an incredible synchronicity. Then a friend said, 'Justin, do you realize that 987 is the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence? It's the mathematical equation for a spiral.' I'm not the most spiritual person, but all that stuff was almost like a reward for all our efforts, and I felt like it got us back on track."
    - TOOL Bassist Justin Chancellor via a _Revolver_ article originally published in 2007

  • @Beauty_In_Simplicity
    @Beauty_In_Simplicity 4 роки тому +17

    Talking about getting old, Maynard looks amazing. Still totally floored to this day whenever I listen to his stuff.

  • @heartdisciple
    @heartdisciple 6 років тому +336

    Maynards subtle humor is great and Rogan is oblivious

    • @gabeprice5648
      @gabeprice5648 3 роки тому +13

      He always is! But he's some sort of famed comedian...

    • @yahirbear
      @yahirbear 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabeprice5648 fuckin right

    • @chrisduplechain620
      @chrisduplechain620 2 роки тому +2

      Totally

    • @halfbakedmedia
      @halfbakedmedia 2 роки тому +12

      I mean, yeah. His claim to fame was paying people to eat worms. Now he tells people to take horse meds and pushes the (admittedly fascinating, but highly unlikely) stoned ape theory.

    • @rynelson85
      @rynelson85 2 роки тому +1

      @@halfbakedmedia Cope harder tool, what a pathetic existence you live. Do the world a favor and take knot tying lessons from Chris Cornell. Nobody will miss people like you, you add no value to life.

  • @MrFatbad
    @MrFatbad 6 років тому +451

    He knows the pieces "don't" fit

    • @Irving_teran
      @Irving_teran 5 років тому +8

      MrFatbad
      I see what you did there

    • @zealot1023
      @zealot1023 4 роки тому +7

      ....Comunicatioooooon....

    • @nodrize77
      @nodrize77 4 роки тому +1

      XD

    • @CreepyJoeMustGo
      @CreepyJoeMustGo 4 роки тому +7

      Definitely a Schism in his explanation....

    • @TThatsWhatSheSaid1
      @TThatsWhatSheSaid1 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure he actually watched them fall away. I think he said it in an interview or something.

  • @RobCrowley85
    @RobCrowley85 3 роки тому +16

    I need to find this whole interview. I really admire Maynard's humility here, he's giving off a highly intelligent, but down to earth kind of vibe and it just pulls you in.

    • @deniseclairesafalzoi
      @deniseclairesafalzoi 10 місяців тому

      He's really a dick unless he likes you! My friend knows him after he moved to Arizona! ❤ You Maynard but it's definitely a sophomoric definition you give especially pronouncing phi as fie NOT fee. You can do better dude! Still ❤ you buddy

  • @jackjon7763
    @jackjon7763 5 років тому +16

    Fibonacci take the previous two numbers added together. It starts as 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13etc.

  • @christophercurtis4805
    @christophercurtis4805 6 років тому +84

    They’re touching on the “golden ratio”. From my discrete mathematics textbook: in the worlds of art and architecture, the golden ratio is thought to create aesthetically pleasing proportions. The golden ratio is (1+sqrt(5))/2, or 1.6180339... and it’s value is approached by the ratio of two consecutive Fibonacci numbers F(n+1)/F(n) for larger and larger values of n. For example, 21/13 is 1.615, and 1597/987 is 1.618034 etc. The Fibonacci numbers are just what’s called a recursive relation, and although many think the 13th century merchant and mathematician Fibonacci discovered this sequence, Leonardo of Pisa (Fibonacci) only introduced Western European mathematicians to it. The idea actually started in Indian mathematics in Vedic studies many years before Fibonacci existed.

    • @Game-The-System
      @Game-The-System 4 роки тому +3

      Speaking of it's history...
      I seem to recall the golden ratio being found in man-made objects & cultures from thousands of years ago...on different continents such as Mayan and Aztec ruins and in ancient Egypt.

    • @mansisity
      @mansisity 4 роки тому

      Down syndrome is an error in the code bitch

    • @zeroprogressive
      @zeroprogressive 2 роки тому

      @@Game-The-System asirian / musulman meccas, were the first, that shit spreaded everywere from egipt to aztecs

    • @erikferrar3453
      @erikferrar3453 Місяць тому

      Can you imagine if way back when these mathematical sequences, formulas, equations, theories, etc., were being learned, invented, discovered, etc., that the world had the ability to communicate in the speed we have now (think internet/phone/even fax,++) and openly SHARED the knowledge and ideas and information of the processes it took to develop and discover it all where the world would be right now technologically. Long winded run on sentence I know. Sorry I just had an unTHC influenced brain trip

  • @Lotus-Son
    @Lotus-Son 6 років тому +355

    So funny; he thinks the way he wrote Lareralus is akin to a teenager thinking his poems in high school were so deep back then but in hindsight they're just emotional teenage angst garbage, when most of us who are barely comprehending how he comes up with songs are in awe of how he came up with that song. There's literally a 13 minute video deconstructing how he came up with that song and how masterful it is and here he is blasting it.

    • @alexcsont4285
      @alexcsont4285 5 років тому +35

      ThyChrysanthemum It's natural to keep on growing, so stuff you were proud of in the past may seem sort of childish after a while

    • @NerdsPlayhouse
      @NerdsPlayhouse 5 років тому

      ThyChrysanthemum That’s the genius behind our master Maynard

    • @applesaucebandit7188
      @applesaucebandit7188 5 років тому +1

      Probably because a teenager wrote it.

    • @sonricssss
      @sonricssss 5 років тому +3

      13 minutes, from which they spoke mainly of fibonacci, and faces and shit, and literaly like 3 minutes of music and creative process.

    • @Pepper360
      @Pepper360 5 років тому +11

      "It was kind of dick joke, in a way." Best laugh I've had in weeks!

  • @kpsa7108
    @kpsa7108 5 років тому +23

    Writes one of the most intricate, complicated and fascinating rock songs ever; says he can do better

  • @marquesbanks5904
    @marquesbanks5904 5 років тому +5

    I love MJK! In Lateralus I was blown away by the lyrics, then to learn about them incorporating the fib spiral into it... Mind blown! One of the few bands to make you really think while rocking out.

    • @nickcliche
      @nickcliche 3 місяці тому

      The lyrics are so, so bad wtf are you talking about

  • @chrisatkisson280
    @chrisatkisson280 5 років тому +10

    Maynard is my inspiration and my all time favorite singer. Like hands down I wish I sounded that bad ass. He’s got a beautiful voice but then again he has so much emotion in his rasp and screams it just blows me away. I’d love to work with him at his winery. That’s a dream job

  • @rcore7846
    @rcore7846 6 років тому +1543

    Maynard cares not about the music. He's trying to unlock the gate to the fourth dimension with black majik

    • @Meshuggapeth
      @Meshuggapeth 6 років тому +31

      R Core yeah they’re into esoteric weird occult knowledge stuff

    • @thesunbehindthesun1574
      @thesunbehindthesun1574 6 років тому +29

      R Core that's why they are so intruiging. As an occultist everything they speak on is true.

    • @rcore7846
      @rcore7846 6 років тому +10

      Yeah I got a weird feeling when he was explaining it. Maybe I smoked too much pot

    • @thesunbehindthesun1574
      @thesunbehindthesun1574 6 років тому +6

      R Core lol that could be it

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 6 років тому +19

      This is why I think Tool is sort of like the new Black Sabbath, they have this whole act they put on to be scary and a surprising amount of people buy into it.

  • @jimtheedcguy4313
    @jimtheedcguy4313 4 роки тому +7

    The subtle jab at vanity with the no disrespect to people with downs made me chuckle quietly to myself.

  • @tg88montanaguy61
    @tg88montanaguy61 3 роки тому +9

    Maynard James Keenan sure has some artistic ideas, that's why he's one of my favorite idols of music artists

  • @SFCISME
    @SFCISME 6 років тому +206

    No need to be humble Maynard, you did what no one else has done. Spiral out, keep going.

    • @bgilley8199
      @bgilley8199 6 років тому

      SFCISME made a concept album?

    • @mayflower2370
      @mayflower2370 5 років тому +6

      This has been done about three hundred years ago.

    • @eddievlg
      @eddievlg 5 років тому +4

      😂 Really? No one else? So start listen more music... You have so much to listen and learn!

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 5 років тому +2

      his comment was a reference to the lyrics of the song

  • @ryanduray1
    @ryanduray1 6 років тому +1013

    Black
    Then
    White are
    All I see
    In my infancy
    Red and yellow then came to be
    Reaching out to me
    Lets me see

    • @f.jideament
      @f.jideament 6 років тому +72

      These lyrics are like explaining the big-bang theory with phi ratio. First everything was empty space which is black in this reality. Then an insane explosion brings white which is light in this case. The material creation starting because of the ohm between gap/emptiness and this incredibly powerful and heavy light, then light breaks on the created material and explosions, colours starting to shine as red and yellow. And then the other colours with billions of explosions.
      There is so much more
      And beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities

    • @russbarach477
      @russbarach477 6 років тому +9

      in my infencey

    • @iesickboy
      @iesickboy 6 років тому +63

      Russ Barach that's not even a word.

    • @Drontenpeel
      @Drontenpeel 6 років тому +29

      Actually, looking at this, it seems close to symbolic language from the Alchemist process. Look it up if you like. The colors represent the stages in the process, which is about realisation of the Self, the unification of lower and higher spheres within a given context like the personality. Just after this part the section begins with "As above so below" which is a line from the Emerald Tablet, a centerpiece of the Corpus Hermeticum as found in Nag Hammadi. Hermetic philosophy is about alchemy, which is a spiritual, magical and esoteric path

    • @Drontenpeel
      @Drontenpeel 6 років тому +7

      Which seems to fit with the thelemic symbolism I distinguish clearly in a photo on a video about the Tool Album update februari 2018 (ua-cam.com/video/8GPu216GW3o/v-deo.html) . Aleister Crowley introduced this symbol into western esotericism. He was a former member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, he started an aligned filosofical and magickal school on the principles of Thelema. He was a self proclaimed magician and an example to many big names in pop culture (and still is). The symbol represents the acting upon your authentic Will, which can be identified with the Divine Spark of Gnosticism: the Knowledge of the Heart. These schools and teachings are deeply linked with Hermetica and Alchemy.

  • @litchqueenasenath5995
    @litchqueenasenath5995 4 роки тому +4

    Lateralus was awesome, I could listen to it with my eyes closed and sober and fly through reality like I'm tripping. But to learn it came out like it did by accident is amazing. I can't wait to hear the new stuff

  • @MrAvidLearner
    @MrAvidLearner 4 роки тому +2

    By the end of the clip, you understand just how much humility he has. Amazing.

  • @888altamber
    @888altamber 5 років тому +6

    Love Maynard and TOOL! Can’t wait to hear new albums from all of them.

  • @brandonkeaton
    @brandonkeaton 6 років тому +1134

    Rogan and Maynard, bruh. What a great moment in history.

    • @ryanduray1
      @ryanduray1 6 років тому +12

      Brandon Keaton No doubt man. I have a great amount of respect for both of these guys.

    • @jose280714
      @jose280714 6 років тому +8

      pfff....

    • @themoniathansnest5404
      @themoniathansnest5404 6 років тому +1

      Oh yeah

    • @SKATE87410
      @SKATE87410 6 років тому +9

      Which one is which?

    • @finsternis1986
      @finsternis1986 6 років тому +4

      In case you aren't aware, there is another older episode with Maynard also.

  • @masonclegg2040
    @masonclegg2040 2 роки тому +1

    Sorry for Calling you out, Maynard. You know the world loves you. I needed you at that time. Thank your dad for me.

  • @Ionic457
    @Ionic457 4 роки тому +7

    Amen Maynard! More people need to create music like you.

  • @SoSincerely
    @SoSincerely 5 років тому +122

    I love how Joe tries to act like he's just remembering things off the top of his head, when he's just reading notes getting put up on his computer.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 5 років тому +28

      Joe "That Fibonacci Song" Rogan.

    • @zachmikovitz5616
      @zachmikovitz5616 4 роки тому +5

      We are all guilty of doing this at one point or another 😂😂 funny observation nonetheless

    • @jesseslistjesseslist5055
      @jesseslistjesseslist5055 3 роки тому

      Dude you must be an asshole do you know how intelligent Joe Rogan is?

    • @Mari000
      @Mari000 2 роки тому +1

      @@jesseslistjesseslist5055 sure he is 🤣

  • @CharlesBryan1
    @CharlesBryan1 6 років тому +404

    987 is a Fibonacci number.

    • @Pinko_Band
      @Pinko_Band 6 років тому +38

      Charles Bryan
      Right. He had it backwards here. Its a measure of 9 then 8 then 7. But his lyrics are sung in progressive fib starting with 1 (based on syllables)
      Black---1
      Then---1
      White are-2
      All I see--3
      In my infancy-5
      Red and yellow then came to be-8
      Reachin out to me-5
      Lets me see--3
      Counts up to 8 then counts back down

    • @JagdWehrwolf
      @JagdWehrwolf 6 років тому +2

      John Thompson
      See further lyrics: ...swing on a spiral...

    • @CharlesBryan1
      @CharlesBryan1 6 років тому +3

      Weird. Because I didn't notice it was backwards when I first heard it. But the backwards bit 987 is a Fibonacci number. I know about the Fibonacci sequence in the lyric syllables. I think that is one of the testaments to the genius of Tool. At least one other testament would be the music. :)

    • @elenakat1497
      @elenakat1497 6 років тому +5

      It’s been so long since their last album Maynard can’t remember

    • @howardtheduck4715
      @howardtheduck4715 6 років тому +1

      Charles Bryan very good 😄 hands you a cookie

  • @jacobgichun8114
    @jacobgichun8114 4 роки тому

    Talented and remains humble. Stands on the shoulders of the great musicians he works with to mold his amazing work. Recognizes he is a cog in a beautiful machine and doesn't call himself the machine🤘❤

  • @winningdesigns6067
    @winningdesigns6067 2 роки тому +9

    After The Burial have a song called Pi and it's fascinating because they used every number in the 3.14...sequence as beats per bar. They wrote a formula just to write that song. They even play it live perfectly

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Місяць тому

      Well no, they just play as many notes as each successive digit with rests in the middle, hard to execute but not hard to conceptualize. They definitely didn't have to write a formula lol

  • @anonymousposter6671
    @anonymousposter6671 5 років тому +117

    And every Algebra teacher, ever, just said in unison, “that’s when the hell ever you’re gonna use algebra outside of this class”..

    • @tanukiZoot
      @tanukiZoot 5 років тому +1

      The only real world application LMAO

    • @DethBytch
      @DethBytch 5 років тому

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @tristananvilcaster
    @tristananvilcaster 5 років тому +21

    Maynard is a mastermind! This whole bands existence is incredible.

  • @web1187
    @web1187 5 років тому +8

    I wish I was given the chance to meet Maynard..

  • @BRUHALEXVRUHJOSH
    @BRUHALEXVRUHJOSH 5 років тому +74

    it’s crazy to think that this man has out done everything i ever could in life and he says “i could do better.” fucking legend

  • @pariahmouse7794
    @pariahmouse7794 5 років тому +7

    This FASCINATES ME. I have been told I get a little too into the more esoteric aspects of TOOL, but isn't that their point? If I wanted mindless drivel that didn't prod my brain a bit I could listen to almost any other popular music that is out now. I want to be transported, enlightened, and stimulated; I want music that asks as many questions as it answers. There will never be a band quite like TOOL ever again, although anything Maynard does is at least intriguing...

    • @fordf-2505
      @fordf-2505 5 років тому

      I do agree, though some of the songs are just troll songs. But the songs also permit you to really think what they mean to you personally, and you can do that with other Artists, too.

  • @jvan5911
    @jvan5911 6 років тому +9

    “A dick joke” haha gotta love this whole exchange between these two. Creates a song utilizing and referring to the what is arguably one of the most important mathematical patterns in existence and refers to it as a “dick joke”. Legendary

  • @Sarasapien
    @Sarasapien 2 роки тому

    This was an insightful interview 👍🏽

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH 5 років тому +285

    The new TooL Album is taking too long because hes just checking all the Maths checks out.

    • @ElCapitan88
      @ElCapitan88 5 років тому

      BLACKSYNTH hopefully it comes out this August.

    • @MGWPS462
      @MGWPS462 5 років тому +5

      Its confirmed for August 30th, 2019

    • @Smokefools6691
      @Smokefools6691 4 роки тому +10

      I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing.

    • @Mpalikari
      @Mpalikari 4 роки тому +2

      @@Smokefools6691 did you check if the pieces fit?

    • @cesarceronzavala3386
      @cesarceronzavala3386 4 роки тому

      I already had the tracks

  • @4amwaj
    @4amwaj 6 років тому +858

    Is Maynard just pretending to be unaware of the significance of this song or is he really just an accidental genius.

    • @onebadmoto5081
      @onebadmoto5081 6 років тому +224

      he wrote lyrics not music

    • @2189fallenangel
      @2189fallenangel 6 років тому +29

      Both. Haha

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 років тому +6

      Both

    • @dstein111
      @dstein111 6 років тому +91

      It’s called Adam Jones my friend

    • @2189fallenangel
      @2189fallenangel 6 років тому +141

      Nah it's all four of them together. Adam, Danny, Justin, and Maynard... Perfect synchronicity.. :D

  • @judemichael3991
    @judemichael3991 6 років тому +278

    they should change their name from Tool to just Math

    • @nikkitaylor4794
      @nikkitaylor4794 6 років тому

      Jude Michael Lol

    • @judemichael3991
      @judemichael3991 6 років тому

      Amir Frost fire roast, did you come up with that yourself, changing it now

    • @judemichael3991
      @judemichael3991 6 років тому

      Amir Frost the way i like tool

    • @cdsmetalhead99
      @cdsmetalhead99 5 років тому +1

      Jude Michael Except he obviously doesn't know shit about math based on the way he talks about the "phi ratio."

    • @mementocatharsis9372
      @mementocatharsis9372 5 років тому

      Danny Carrey is the math wizard. 7 pointed stars on his drumheads. He makes mathamatical sequences within the music by hitting the different points of the star. The sound doesnt change much because its the same drum but he knows he did it. Makes me think that man needs a different drum set. One with 1,000 more drums and stuff to equal his ability to play.

  • @Hopeful_Skeptic
    @Hopeful_Skeptic Місяць тому

    "Thirteenth Step" is what actually opened my mind up to music. From there I feel in love with soo many genres. Ppl say psychedelics are life changing, I submit that music can be just as trasnformitive and powerful.

  • @RevanBC
    @RevanBC 4 роки тому +13

    0:35 "HE knows the pieces don't fit!"

  • @davewaynejr
    @davewaynejr 6 років тому +332

    Danny Carrey is the sekret genius behind all of this :)

    • @jtcorvin9614
      @jtcorvin9614 6 років тому +11

      David Sherrill yeah man, he's no joke

    • @Briggz30
      @Briggz30 6 років тому +35

      so true - most people think its maynard ... love maynard - but danny is the main driving force in the songs

    • @Hypnobong
      @Hypnobong 6 років тому +8

      Danny's riding that spiral there, boys!

    • @davewaynejr
      @davewaynejr 6 років тому +2

      Hes doing his Will, thats is for damn surr!!

    • @hockyjocky4
      @hockyjocky4 5 років тому +8

      Danny Carey is a genius that deserves to be celebrated. Favorite drummer of all time. He studied the greatest like John Bonham and Bill Bruford and defined his own style that involves mathematics

  • @bwild7610
    @bwild7610 6 років тому +101

    Lateralus is my favorite tool album.

    • @deftone4656
      @deftone4656 6 років тому +9

      B Wild have you heard Ænima?

    • @bwild7610
      @bwild7610 6 років тому +3

      Emilio Vidal yes it’s my second favorite tool album them undertow

    • @kennedycrevoiserat7095
      @kennedycrevoiserat7095 5 років тому +1

      Same. Been getting into opiate and undertow recently

    • @aaronwineberg7678
      @aaronwineberg7678 5 років тому

      B Wild I get goosebumps every time I start that album

    • @Stickmantree
      @Stickmantree 5 років тому +3

      B Wild I totally agree. Tool is good but lateralus is the best start to finish

  • @wwtservices5168
    @wwtservices5168 5 років тому +9

    MJ Keenan in the most relaxed mood I have ever seen. He seems happy to talk about stuff.

  • @michaelroy1202
    @michaelroy1202 2 роки тому +1

    Bro don’t apologize for high lighting what no one sees. Every artist looks back at their own art and says they can do better if they’ve grown. It’s like Neil Peart calling 2112 unsophisticated and raw...that’s what we love about it

  • @ToddFraud
    @ToddFraud 6 років тому +1050

    They explained it terribly, good thing I knew what they were talking about beforehand

    • @bothellkenmore
      @bothellkenmore 6 років тому +10

      I saw the 1995 docu about the Mandelbrot set on PBS so I was aware of the phenomenon but was clueless that Lateralus had that influence. Needless to say mind blown when I learned it years later.

    • @ryta1203
      @ryta1203 6 років тому +48

      It's a comic/MMA guy and a musician/artist. What did you expect?

    • @amjan
      @amjan 6 років тому +48

      Maynard is not even as much a musician - just a singer and lyric writer. He adds his vocals to whatever he's given.

    • @davidwhippen5740
      @davidwhippen5740 6 років тому +18

      Tyler Davis man you must be so cool

    • @RainMakersGroup
      @RainMakersGroup 6 років тому

      You're a fuckin genius.

  • @FallenMerick
    @FallenMerick 5 років тому +232

    Just watched the video but... can't remember what they said.
    God damn, shit the bed.

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 років тому +9

      Next time bring a pen

    • @timmythistle6615
      @timmythistle6615 5 років тому +17

      I'll calm you down with some oranges slices and fetal spooning.

    • @vodkacannon
      @vodkacannon 5 років тому +1

      @@timmythistle6615 what the fuck

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 років тому +2

      @@timmythistle6615 haha what? I think you got the wrong thread

    • @Pi3.1419
      @Pi3.1419 5 років тому

      @Human Resources woops I apologise.. I thought I knew all the lyrics to Rosetta Stoned 😪

  • @chance2012rocks1
    @chance2012rocks1 2 роки тому

    I like how Maynard explains the Fibonacci sequence is the the precursor to PHI which is the 1.618 explaining the perfect harmony and balance of so many things in life.

  • @OMGtheykilledKenny42
    @OMGtheykilledKenny42 7 місяців тому

    So, Maynard uses the instrumental as a template to match his lyrics to. Awesome!

  • @gomaniz
    @gomaniz 5 років тому +44

    Alternative title idea: "Two tattooed bald guys, who've tried every drug, talking about music"

  • @jeridjohnson9927
    @jeridjohnson9927 6 років тому +25

    Danny carey herd the riff and new what it was Danny made the song he is after all big in geometry and his dad was a math teacher

  • @2chows1dude
    @2chows1dude 2 роки тому

    Pure humility. What a good dude

  • @re20bt
    @re20bt 4 роки тому +1

    This song is weekly therapy for me. Tool’s ultimate masterpiece.

  • @tommywingham8277
    @tommywingham8277 2 роки тому +4

    You can always recognize intelligent fellows . He’s direct and focused. No broken sentences

  • @nth7273
    @nth7273 4 роки тому +49

    "There's something wrong with your face." - MJK

  • @joantrendafilov7963
    @joantrendafilov7963 2 роки тому +1

    going to a concert soon in Germany! cant wait to hear TOOl!

  • @xBCxRICHx1993
    @xBCxRICHx1993 2 роки тому +1

    Still to this day one of the most profound powerful songs ever written.

  • @satanpuncher06
    @satanpuncher06 Рік тому +3

    What’s awesome about that song is that the lyrics actually poke fun at us for over analyzing it instead of enjoying it for what it is

  • @jojored9647
    @jojored9647 2 роки тому +3

    Dude you are a musical genius I don't care what anybody says every one of your songs is good keep going keep it up

  • @jasonpettit9984
    @jasonpettit9984 4 роки тому

    Joe,out of all the people you have ever had on this web-a-sode,Maynard is one of the top 5,he's a freaking genius, all of his music,the words the bands,and the wine,he's under control...

  • @gracek513
    @gracek513 5 років тому +1

    Lateralus is the only reason I remembered the Fibonacci sequence for my exams, so thanks hehe 😭❤️

  • @kayleelockheart8208
    @kayleelockheart8208 Рік тому +4

    The sinusoidal fibonacci sequence following the lyrics of lateralus is brilliant. Don't put yourself down, man

    • @somewhatsomething4882
      @somewhatsomething4882 Рік тому +1

      So esoteric lmao... I only learnt about the Fib Sequence in like 4th grade 😂😂😂
      And it's not like I went to a Rudolph Steiner school 😃

  • @nikkocachila7218
    @nikkocachila7218 3 роки тому +4

    He doesn't even know how to write his own music in notation perfectly. Yet he creates the most intricately beautiful music. I adore Tool.

  • @pervysage3500
    @pervysage3500 10 місяців тому

    @0:36 he talks about writing with each project and he says “it doesn’t fit”, when describing trying to connect his projects, all I can think is of MJK going manic rocking back and forth while writing the lyrics to Schism and saying “I know the pieces fit!”

  • @allisonrr424
    @allisonrr424 2 роки тому +1

    Incredible artist

  • @adamallman7445
    @adamallman7445 6 років тому +55

    "I can do better" - Maynard

  • @MrZZsharka
    @MrZZsharka 6 років тому +30

    I think Maynard was referring to how it works in a piece of music/notation for a moment there, while he’s a writer/lyricist, vocalist and performer, rather than someone who writes music like Adam can do in his sleep.

    • @ibowonar141
      @ibowonar141 6 років тому +8

      Kevin Smith adam jones is a superhuman

    • @nishitkirtikar
      @nishitkirtikar 6 років тому +4

      Surprisingly, both Adam and Justin are not musically educated.

    • @bathoryaria4127
      @bathoryaria4127 6 років тому +4

      Nish Kirtikar I just got in an argument with somebody over a youtube comment (which I should know better than to do by now) that reading music and being musically educated is not required to make good music, and, of course, this guy was arguing otherwise, while dismissing pretty much every legendary rock musician from Hendrix to just about every punk band to Nirvana. I just still can't believe there are people who think being musically educated matters. I always use this example, but look at Joy Division, Bernard Sumner could barely play his guitar, but he made it work and Joy Division is one of the best bands ever.

    • @Josh-mx4lf
      @Josh-mx4lf 6 років тому +2

      Glenda Danzig you are trying desperately to cling to an idea that suggests study does not enhance comprehension, which says to me that you either cannot afford or cannot squeeze the ambition from your existence to further your studies. Good luck

    • @Josh-mx4lf
      @Josh-mx4lf 6 років тому

      Glenda Danzig I understood you the first time

  • @ImEatingSeeds
    @ImEatingSeeds 4 роки тому +1

    Love how he manages to sneak in that humblebrag at the end - "It was a vey pedestrian...sophomoric kind of thing to do. I could do better..." as he's talking about what is arguably their most popular and iconic song (and concept).

  • @Will-gs8pc
    @Will-gs8pc 8 місяців тому

    I've watched this video multiple times and I just realized this is from episode number 986 if this was number 987 while they're talking about the 987 riff I think that's pretty interesting

  • @MrSomethingElse
    @MrSomethingElse 6 років тому +23

    "why are your lips?" Classic Rogan.

  • @coscwyite
    @coscwyite 3 роки тому +4

    As a writer I can confirm, it's MUCH easier to write to a song than to write without a song

  • @gcjbhar
    @gcjbhar 4 роки тому

    Absolute Brilliant song writer!!!

  • @andrewmiller2670
    @andrewmiller2670 2 роки тому

    The song Lateralus always recalibrates my racing mind and leaves it in a zen state.

  • @joepbailey
    @joepbailey 4 роки тому +3

    If any one is into this, you should watch the film Pi... it's amazing.

  • @YI-vw8xz
    @YI-vw8xz 2 роки тому +5

    Nature shows herself. Thank god she was expressed by a true artist. Someone humble enough to say: "it just sort of happened". I'll never stop listening to TooL. How poetic it is to just "happen". Exactly what the song is about. Embrace, spiral out!

    • @inspecktadek
      @inspecktadek 8 місяців тому +1

      "she" "her" ... to a benevolent being that is neither male or female . its universal. were humans. no one responded to you in over 2 years and u have literally 4 thumbs up on a video that has 2 million views. so u have .000002% of people whove seen this who agree with this horrendous take. so its safe to say literally no one else agrees with u.. tell me a woman didnt write this without saying it challenge. ur either a bot (based off your name) or u are one lost soul. i hope its the former and not the latter." Just spiral out, man!" oh wait shit no. man means a male. "just spiral out dude!" oh shit no wait. " just spiral out , bro!" SHIT . "just spiral out" . ahhh yeah got it now

  • @cynzia_d
    @cynzia_d 3 роки тому +1

    He can talk about EVERYTHING and his voice puts a spell on you.

  • @sambell385
    @sambell385 Рік тому +1

    Maynard be Trippin 😆 but I love the music that comes out of his tripping😁

  • @nicholash4525
    @nicholash4525 5 років тому +14

    that fibonacci song.

  • @HydroidPrimeRework
    @HydroidPrimeRework 3 роки тому +3

    I imagine joe with the maynard mohawk and my life is complete

  • @Dortch3
    @Dortch3 2 роки тому

    In thoroughly understanding the Fibonacci sequence, one must conclude you can start the sequence anywhere, with any number; therefore, all numbers (sans zero) can be made to be part of a fibonacci sequence.

  • @stvargas69
    @stvargas69 2 роки тому +1

    Im sure Micky Minage uses the fibonacci sequence to make song. Maynards humility is inspiring

  • @mccoymrm
    @mccoymrm Рік тому +3

    Maynard doesn't acknowledge it...but he is in fact our modern Beethoven. Genius.

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats Рік тому

      beethoven was deaf homie

    • @strqrt70
      @strqrt70 Рік тому

      Haha, ok.

    • @mccoymrm
      @mccoymrm Рік тому

      @@ctrainbeats Maybe Maynards deaf. Dunno. But he can make music as good or better.

    • @ctrainbeats
      @ctrainbeats Рік тому

      @@mccoymrm hmm

  • @utubedestroysmytime
    @utubedestroysmytime 6 років тому +14

    He should do john theodore or ORL from the mars volta

  • @peenice
    @peenice 8 місяців тому

    I fkin love Maynard. Just absolute legend. Wish I could get some of his wine over here to

  • @Makalla
    @Makalla 4 роки тому

    I would do anything to meet Maynard. Need to ask him so many questions...