VALETON GP 200 vs SOLDANO SLO 100: which is which? | Quick blind test

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  • Опубліковано 2 лют 2025

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  • @LeoGibsonGtr
    @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +2

    Here you can find my full demo review of the GP 200: ua-cam.com/video/_v5S5oN_Kz8/v-deo.html

  • @davidmultimedia2024
    @davidmultimedia2024 3 роки тому +9

    Wooo... sounds even closer than the Neural DSP SLO-100 plugin.
    Ridiculously impressive at this price point!

  • @jcoulter43
    @jcoulter43 3 роки тому +7

    I also guessed Unit A as the "real" amp. This thing sounds good. Can't wait for the full review! God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you for sharing....I'm also very impatient to share my review!!!

  • @davidwoods358
    @davidwoods358 3 роки тому +8

    For me ... the tones are so close ... it just doesn't matter. It's an amazing time in the world of modelers. (they all sound good.)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi David...I do agree...we are lucky! 😊

  • @joopbarend3601
    @joopbarend3601 3 роки тому +10

    I'm gonna go with real Soldano on B here. A seems to be missing some low end. It sounds good though!

  • @PungkiAhimsa
    @PungkiAhimsa 3 роки тому +1

    Yay I guessed right. The highs on Valeton sounded slightly compressed, different high frequency seem to have the exact same dynamics and decay. While on the real one, different high frequencies seem to have their own dynamics characteristic. Kinda like the 2K got different sustain & decay compared to the 3K, also different with 4 etc. I wouldn't really judge just by clarity because in digital world sometimes the problem is things are too clear. Which could be a good thing, but it could also mean certain frequency is too much while also lacking overtones/richness/harmonic. Or in this case the compressed sound might make the sound seems more exciting and that tricked our ear to think that it's the better sound and guessed that it's the real thing.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your guess and your findings!

  • @arkavagoswami3068
    @arkavagoswami3068 3 роки тому +1

    valeton really nailed in this one.soo close..i also thought a is the real amp..great job valeton n mr.gibson..if the ambient effects are better than pod go,then i'm definitely gonna buy this one.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and for the compliment!

  • @pyropedals5553
    @pyropedals5553 3 роки тому +3

    They both sounded great !!! Anyone know a rough idea of price for the 200?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, around 350$
      Thank you for your message!

  • @GlebKuzntesov
    @GlebKuzntesov 3 роки тому +3

    I'd love to see this thing put to test against line 6 pod go. I'm considering buying one of these, considering that valeton is substantially cheaper than line 6, this should be interesting.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +2

      Hi, yes, Valeton vs POD GO is interesting....😀👍

  • @小牛-o5f
    @小牛-o5f 3 роки тому +2

    I'd say B is the real Soldano. There's just a little pinch of more dynamics, but I may be mistaken. The sounds are incredible close.

  • @slazinger
    @slazinger 4 місяці тому +1

    I got them right, but I had to listen to it a couple of times and really concentrate, they are really close.
    The real deal sounds a bit more full and not so sharp when you hit the high strings, but I think this would be virtually indistinguishable in a mix.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!

  • @JamesJLaRue
    @JamesJLaRue 3 роки тому +1

    Instant like for this vid.

  • @leonordmann
    @leonordmann 3 роки тому +2

    I think A sounded better because of more clarity.
    I think I heard some digital artifacts in B which is odd, but might be due to UA-cam compression.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi Leo, thank you for sharing your opinion and your findings!

  • @ankitbedwal1
    @ankitbedwal1 2 місяці тому

    That was really good 👍🏻

  • @acasadiluca
    @acasadiluca 3 роки тому +2

    I'd guess B but Anyway.... They both sound great.
    To be honest... I like a little bit more the A just because more Clear...😂
    Good Job Valeton!

  • @hbo001
    @hbo001 3 роки тому +1

    I think the B is Soldano. It has better low end more defined highs which I prefer. If it's digital modeler I am impressed then.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you for sharing....right guess....👍🏻

  • @paul_henderson
    @paul_henderson 2 роки тому

    It was kinda tricky cause usually amp sims sound more muffled but this time I guessed that the real Soldano isn't as EQ-ed and saturated as the sim (I recognized it by its natural dirt). Btw I own GP100. Is there a huge difference with the sound quality between GP200?

  • @zepp3lin
    @zepp3lin 3 роки тому +1

    Waiting for your intensive review of the unit. none on the internet so far. Some only just unboxing and playing around for a bit. By the way, the A & B sound almost the same. But B sounded with a bit more presence to it.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you! We have to wait the end of the Embargo / the official launch date...it's pretty soon...
      Thank you for your message and for sharing your opinion!

  • @steveeckert8396
    @steveeckert8396 2 роки тому +2

    It doesn't matter which is which. I listened with studio headphones and they pretty much sounded identical My bad the Soldano cost 10X more so I guess it does matter. 😳

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Steve, thank you for sharing your findings!

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 3 роки тому +8

    I'm guessing "A" is the real Soldano for its clarity.

  • @SamuraiStrongZero
    @SamuraiStrongZero 3 роки тому +1

    Cant tell which one is the real when you are strumming, but the single notes sounds more natural (0:40 ~ 0:42) in the B (real one I guess)
    I still prefer the A. Maybe just the settings, but i think it has more gain.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing! Here I'm using the exact same settings for both the amp and the modelers....tweacking you can even get closer...

  • @gibs8412
    @gibs8412 3 роки тому

    they both sound great, but how does the digital one feel playing it?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      More on that topic in future videos...😊👍🏻

  • @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist
    @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist 3 роки тому +1

    B is the real Soldano. But A sound nearly exactly the same! Waiting to try out this unit, but Thomann lists it as available in some months (!!) 😩

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +3

      You got it....and please notice that I have used the same setting between the valeton and the real Soldano....so I have not tried to match the tones...As regards availability we have to wait....maybe the chip shortage is gonna affect also this product...nevertheless the office launch date is pretty close....

  • @JamesJLaRue
    @JamesJLaRue 3 роки тому +1

    My guess is real is B. Smoother top end. But they are close. Now I'm wondering about GP 200 vs Ampero II Stomp.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi James....thank you for sharing your opinion! Actually I still have to do a direct comparison...my guess so far is that the modeling algorithms are the same, as both Ampero and Valeton belongs to the same company...not sure about effect...interesting topic...thank you!

  • @8stringwrshpleader
    @8stringwrshpleader 3 роки тому +1

    B is the Valeton sim?

  • @JabezTarrosa
    @JabezTarrosa 6 місяців тому +1

    rig A sounded a bit more "wide" with a stereo feel to it.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  6 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing...interesting highlight....May I say, it sounds more tridimensional?

  • @rendyandrian7149
    @rendyandrian7149 3 роки тому +1

    I really don't know how to answer this since I'm not familiar with Soldano. My ears only hears A doesn't have low end. The treble is more or less the same. So I'm guessing B is the real amp. It's just pure luck my guess is right.
    The situation with amp sim vs real amp is actually similar with early days of digital vs analog camera. When digital camera first came, people thought it wasn't as good as analogue one. Technology keeps improving. Nowadays people accept both technology are different and each has its pros and cons. I'm still waiting for the day when amp sim doesn't try to replicate any tube amp and it can be accepted as an alternative to tube amp. Guitarist can choose amp sim or tube amp based on their needs. Not because one is better than the other.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi Randy, thank you for sharing your opinion...the comparison with digital camera is interesting...thank you!

    • @PiRaSSiC
      @PiRaSSiC 3 роки тому

      Well I think Neural is on a path to create digital plugin amps that have no match in the real world, not trying to "model" anything but creating something completely new.

  • @zoomosis
    @zoomosis 3 роки тому

    Whichever is the real one, they are so close it doesn't matter much any more. I wonder how it compares to the GP-100?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing...good point...If I have time I will check it out.
      Thank you!

  • @jesterraj
    @jesterraj 2 місяці тому

    How bout doin a side by side with the dual rec.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 місяці тому

      Hi, I'm sorry but I have not understood the question, could you please explain?
      Thanks!

    • @jesterraj
      @jesterraj 2 місяці тому

      @@LeoGibsonGtr Hi i meant doin a comparasion of the gp 200 dual rec model against a real mesa dual rec.

  • @Kanbei7
    @Kanbei7 3 роки тому

    Damn close!

  • @za2198
    @za2198 3 роки тому

    There is difference between both ones but honestly I Haven't been able to classify wich is one and wich is another. Both are very good...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @sergeymineychev7482
    @sergeymineychev7482 3 роки тому

    This time i liked A , as it sounded with a bit of more clarity. With such a subtle, even imaginary difference though. Maybe B was a bit more "solid", with the same-like measure. But hey I went wrong this time)) Seems, with this model, it`s mostly just your EQ to evaluate how the _recorded_ sound will become. Those are really close, both A and B ;)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi Sergey, thank you for sharing your opinions!!!

  • @damianmb5
    @damianmb5 3 роки тому

    Definitely B, there is some punch/low end that’s missing in A. Maybe it can be corrected with some tweaking .

  • @jirosaves_theworld
    @jirosaves_theworld 3 роки тому

    i know SLO sound bit muddy but it just right so i got Hit on first try when you provide Isolated sound

  • @alien4422
    @alien4422 3 роки тому +1

    I choose B. To my ears A sounded a bit weak.

  • @jaymax3201
    @jaymax3201 3 роки тому +1

    Ha ha happy new year!
    As for blind test, only Soldano
    user can hear the difference.
    Same as the difference between
    the vintage guitar and cheap one.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, happy new year to you too, and thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @HMohr
    @HMohr День тому +1

    I thought that A was better and hence, the original. I'm glad I was wrong.

  • @varunrocks2882
    @varunrocks2882 3 роки тому

    🔥❤️ Valeton

  • @Snookidoo1
    @Snookidoo1 3 роки тому

    I´ll go with A is the real thing, cause (the other way then my former "Joop") I hope that the real thing has more brilliance. At least, both sounded a bit "wish washy" at the "end chords"

  • @mCKENIC
    @mCKENIC 3 роки тому +2

    Whichever is the real one - I prefer the sound of A 🙂

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @Sleeep1
    @Sleeep1 3 роки тому

    Wow, I thought A was Soldano. Nice.

  • @boddumblues
    @boddumblues 3 роки тому +1

    A is the most lively sounding, must be the Soldano (?) - Wow, I was wrong!!

  • @Provisional123zzz
    @Provisional123zzz 3 роки тому

    How much is the valeton?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, it should be around 350$.
      Thanks!

    • @Provisional123zzz
      @Provisional123zzz 3 роки тому +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks a lot my friend :) I love your videos and your playing is amazing :)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Thank you, super appreciated!!!

  • @lapetitenation360
    @lapetitenation360 3 роки тому

    I thought to the Soldano was A due to more top end

  • @shredgd5
    @shredgd5 3 роки тому

    A is set with way more gain than B, so it’s a bit unfare

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi, here I'm using the same settings for both the unit...I'm not tweaking....

  • @mikaerik
    @mikaerik 3 роки тому +1

    A sounds better to me but it doesn't mean it's a correct answer😁

  • @artvandelay2111
    @artvandelay2111 3 роки тому

    Old tin ears here guessed A as the real amp. lol there you go !!
    I could've sworn the notes "bounced" and sounder thicker a bit more from A ..........shows what I know ha ha

  • @tometal
    @tometal 3 роки тому

    I am not sure which is which, but I like B better.

  • @GuitarAnus8
    @GuitarAnus8 3 роки тому

    isn't this a 350 dollar pedal? That is insane it sounds this good.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Yes, 350$....
      Thank you for your message!

  • @x-STORMXX-x
    @x-STORMXX-x 3 роки тому +1

    I don't know but, to my ears B sounds way better.

  • @simonchesney3911
    @simonchesney3911 3 роки тому +2

    Ill guess A

  • @webereaugusto
    @webereaugusto 3 місяці тому

    caraca, preferi o som da Valeton

  • @michaelbarber590
    @michaelbarber590 3 роки тому

    a sounds a bit more open and real.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому

      Hi Michael, thank you for sharing your opinion!

  • @hbarlettasollberger
    @hbarlettasollberger 3 роки тому

    B is the GP 200

  • @АндрейПолевой-я5и
    @АндрейПолевой-я5и 3 роки тому

    B

  • @ralphbanks
    @ralphbanks 3 роки тому

    I thought A was the real amp and B the SIM .... However .....

  • @jamrik76
    @jamrik76 6 місяців тому

    oooo my god.....I think the real sound was A.....

  • @iparsw
    @iparsw 3 роки тому

    A

  • @scarjuano
    @scarjuano 3 роки тому

    "A" Real Soldando...

    • @scarjuano
      @scarjuano 3 роки тому +1

      impressed with valeton, good sound... Happy new year Leo!!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Happy new year to you too!!! Thank you for sharing!

  •  Рік тому

    A sounds better to me

  • @Slavetskiy
    @Slavetskiy 3 роки тому

    Not bab, Valeton, but: when you on stage, tube amp and cab give you real feel. Digital processing - no.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion. I'm curious: were you able to find out which was the real Soldano?
      Thank you!

    • @Sleeep1
      @Sleeep1 3 роки тому +2

      Funny because a lot professional musicans play on fractal or kemper. That "real feel" in Fractal and Kemper its great and now only in studio its make sense when you want all details add to your song. My Brother play on bass with helix in famous jazz band :D Solution for guitarists changing and now is a lot easier and cheaper have great tone on stage.

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis 3 роки тому

      There's no substitute for having a real amp and speaker pushing air around the room, vibrating the walls etc, though of course that depends on the kind of music you're playing. Digital pedals like this one are mostly meant for powering headphones or recording/home studio use though, not so much for live gigs. And there are plenty of guitarists out there who never play live. :)

    •  3 роки тому

      @@zoomosis you understand that you can also use a large speaker with digital units to push as much air as you like, right?

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis 3 роки тому

      @ Of course.