POD GO KILLER? Valeton's GP-200 might be..
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Valeton just released a new offering that is a full size board meant for the stage... much in the same way the POD GO is meant for the stage. Is the GP 200 the best alternative to the POD GO?
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Would be interesting to see a shootout between this and the Ampero - the only differences I can see are the ‘MIDI Through’ and ‘FX Loop’ connections ?
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Great video Taylor, as always. Do you have any plans to make a comparation between this and any of the Amperos??? I think they use the same amp emulations. Thanks!!!
Someone somewhere is probably whining "BUT TAYLOR, NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD TO RUN THEIR MODELER THROUGH A MESA/BOOGIE 4x12, HOW DO THE ON-BOARD IRS OR WHATEVER SOUND?!"
Jokes aside, amazing tone and video as always, congratulations on your daughter's upcoming birth, hope you guys stay safe and healthy!
You really went all out in the editing😄nice work, man! And very interesting product as well. That price point with that feature set is crazy!
Thanks for noticing! If I'm going to do 1 video a week, I want to make it as entertaining as I am capable of!
dude your video production is amazing, its a shame more people dont get to see your awesome content
Great Unit!!! Looks like a Mooer ge300 and sounds BRUTAL too!!!
Sounds great !!! I'm impressed
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Great work with all the edits and review duder. Really makes me want to grab this instead of my mx5 lol. \m/
It's pretty cool, but the mx5 is still really cool too!
@@TaylorDanley indeed... now you have another option for chug battles!! \m/
It did sound really good, the SLO, Mesa and Engl were good tones and could be dialed in nicely. The pitch shifting was pretty impressive and it didn't really seem to have any DSP limitations to speak of. For what it is, seems like a great unit. Perhaps the GE250 would be more useful with it's tone capture through the app but overall, especially for the $349 price point, should be a great, inexpensive way to get into quality tone dialing.
Agreed. I think if you’re looking for something full sized though this might be a better option that the 250. I believe the only board with a full sized pedal mooer offers is the ge300 🤔
@@TaylorDanley That puts this in some pretty exclusive territory, sounds like a great unit!
$350 isn't cheap for me. I wish someone would make a pedal that blows all these big names out of the water for super cheap. And fuck up all the other company's games... That would be hilarious and great for me because I could own a badass pedal finally. I won't ever be able to buy a $350 ever. Kinda sucks but do fies all the high as sky prices going on in the pedal world.
@@thefuneralparade You know it costs money to make devices like this, right? It's not a charity - they have to make money or they can't make anything. Anybody who owns an electric guitar and an amp isn't so badly off that they couldn't save up $350 for a multi effects unit. I mean, you're watching UA-cam so you have a device, you have internet. Maybe you should just budget better. And stop complaining - that gets you nowhere.
@@thefuneralparadeMost places allow you to pay monthly for gear now.
Still sounds good to me. Can't justify upgrading from my GP-100.. but I want to! Still a huge step up from the Mustang Floor I previously had (for metal tones)
The Mustang floor is unbeatable for Fender tones. It just lacks drive options and the higain amps are poor. I just use my Mustang floor for recording when I want a Bassman, Deluxe or Princeton.
The wip my head 😂back and forth was spellbinding 😂
Any MFX pitched for stage should have XLR outputs for those like me that connect direct to PA and don't use amps.
Well done Valeton. You may convert me from Zoom.
Did they provide a pre-release manual to you? I haven't found one online yet, and I am curious to know what the MIDI functionality includes. I assume it can change presets with PCs, and it can probably turn on/off blocks with CCs. But can you assign a CC to a parameter and send a CC to alter the parameter value (like in HX Stomp for example)? Any MIDI info would be appreciated.
great content pal
You know what’s next right? I think we’re going to need a shootout between a real amp, the pod go, the Headrush MX5, and the Velaton GP-200 👍🏻
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I know, I have a lot of Chug Battles to catch up on!
Where can you buy it
If headrush can release the new firmware, it will be a good
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@@paulandrews9489 amazon?
I definitely needed to drastically scoop the hell out of the mids and up the bass a lot on both the 10 band eq and global eq (bass on amp sim, not 10 band) and up the presence quite a bit. Also, i had to pinpoint a sharp zappiness in the lower treble frequencies and now it's really good. Still trying to get my noise gate perfected. Went with EVH amp and cab, going into my Peavey JSX.
Hi Taylor. Just wondering which unit did you prefer, this or the Ampero 2 and is there much in it between them? Thanks
From what I can tell, the valeton gp series would easily be able to kill the pod go but the problem is that valeton doesn't have an American distribution part and if they worked there way into music stores. It would be a success.
Love the part where you 'cut back on the gain' with the EV51...
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Dang! Glad I ran into this video. Been pulling my hair out trying to add and overdrive pedal into the FX loop of the Pod Go and the noise gate for some reason has no affect on the overdrive pedal and all I get is hiss. Works fine going into the input, but not the fx loop. And my Boss MS-3 has no problem doing that. And I need a good sounding backup with my preferred analog pedal so I'm gonna give the GP-200 a shot. Never even knew this unit existed. Thanks a bunch!
Why would you want an overdrive in the effects loop? If the effects loop was movable and you moved it to the front of the amp anyway? What would the difference be?
@@christopherwalker2097 I wanted the analog overdrive pedal to be "after" the built in digital overdrive in the Pod Go so it would cut through the mix (band) more. The GP-200 did the same thing plus the FX loop was not moveable but I did find that putting my pedal into the input of the Pod Go for some reason the noise gate then worked with the external pedal as long as it was not in the loop (kinda weird) and it still cut through very well although I'm sure not quite as much as having the analog pedal last in the chain (overdrive-wise) but it's for backup anyway so it works for me. My overdrive pedal costed almost as much as the Pod Go lmao so yeah, I wanted to get as much of the sound and tone from that as possible
Oh, and I did try going from the send of the fx loop in the Pod Go to the overdrive pedal and then into the front of the amp but again nothing but hiss and noise :(
Hello, I'm already watching your video and I still have not seen how this device reacts to switching between presets and channels. Is there a delay between switching from one channel to another. For me, this is the most important point. How can I get around the lack of a snapshot function on Valeton? I want to strum a chord on a clean sound with a flanger effect, and switch to an overdrive channel with flanger without delay, so that the chord and effect sound is not interrupted. Can this be done on Valeton, or not? It would be interesting to see such a comparison. It is very important! And this is not mentioned anywhere.
How does this tack up on dsp and the ability to arrange effects in a way you like? From my understanding the pod go suffers some dsp limitations and I know for a fact that certain blocks are locked in place like the wah. I'm essentially deciding between this, the pod go, and the mx5 as a budget floor modeler for both live and recording use so I'd really appreciate info like that
Same here. And what did you end up buying?
Taylor Danley All you were doing is using the effects send and return on the katana head then to the mesa cab..? is that the routing if so do use use cab sim on or no cab on the pedal patch THANKS
This thing is amazing… my birthday is coming up soon and it’s on my list for computer 🖥️ recording… instead of playing through an amp all the time
Pitch-shifting sounded pretty good with the knobs. Is it possible to control it with the expression pedal for Whammy-style pitch-shifting? Thanks!
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I had the original Valeton GP 100 and hated the reverbs to the point I sold it. I then had the Nux MG30 and loved it but found it a total fax to dial in a decent tone when playing through an frfr cab.
The disparity between headphones and the frfr cab was night and day. In headphones the presets, amp's and Fx sounded great.
Through my Headrush frfr I had to totally redial in the patch eq and volume wise. I spent more time doing this than playing. Both the frfr and the Nux were sold.
If anything I might just go for the Pod Go and send the amp out to the send of my Fender Deluxe solid state amp and see how it goes.
Can you assign mod, rev, delay to the effects loop leaving dist and OD in front of the amp to run 4 cable?
the actual amp tones are never talked about enough. I know with these units there is a lot to cover...but meat and potatoes is how does the amps sound... feel...string separation...articulation of notes.
Hi dear Taylor Is the latecy worse than for example Zoom G6 or Line6 pod or Nux for example? Thanks Taylor =) ure the man =D
I'm looking for a good looper on a multi effects board 180seconds is longer than a lot of them. That being said it's not long enough I'm doing 7 minute loops on my 65$ amazon looper and it's got 3 save slots but no way to copy those loops. For the price these multi effects boards cost they should have an infinite loop memory and the ability to save multiple loops as well as a way to download them.
I know that you ran it through the boss head power amp it would be great to see this rand off that power station from Seymour Duncan duncan or something along those lines that's just a dedicated power amp but has a little bit more EQ control on it
Finally the up/down and "mode", etc buttons are in their proper location!!!!! (I'm at 1:55 so far)
The main difference would be the pod go has hx technology as its sound engine. Ergo while it has fewer FX and Amp emulations the ones it has would be of a higher quality than that in the GP200. Are the FX loop ios on the GP200 stereo or mono? Perhaps more detail needs to be bought forward. Difficult to differentiate when all the sounds heard are on the heavy side of the street. OH I do have both units.
I've heard Pod Go is the HX sound engine, but also heard it doesn't do parallel path stereo rigs, which would seemingly undercut the Helix sound engine argument, but my info could be wrong. I will say the Andersons shootout of Pod Go vs this unit didn't showcase the Pod Go very well at all, though this is budget as well. Neither is in the league of the big boys for sure.
Good video/review
I just bought one of these in order some monitors and a Mackie 112 so I don't know much about digital but I'm learning
It's actually available on Amazon for $350.
Glad I got the Headrush MX5!👍
I like to see a comparsion with the Hotone Ampero. They seems to have the same AMP simulation so maybe is the same DSP.
They’re the same company
Better than the nux mg30? What do you think?
Hi Taylor, Thanks for the presentation. As an old Death Metal shredder, the significant boss HM2 must of course be on board. I already have a few devices in my household, but the Boss HM2 is just never there. They load hundreds of amps on it and each one adds another 5 amps with the next firmware. But nobody has the significant HM2 with them. As a question in the round, is there any such board that has a reasonably acceptable HM2 in it? Except Kemper and AxeFX. Could they? cheers
The Pod GO has an HM2 I believe 🤔
Sounds killer man
Besides funtionality and options whatever, what sounds better? Imo i actually hear the valeton gp200 sounding better all around in vids and im a pod go owner
hi man .. a waiting shooutout pod go vs nux mg vs valeton gp200 ... deadly battle between them !!! who wins will be the best cost-benefit market multi fx today !!!
Great demo, Taylor! I’m about to move so there’s a part of me that’s thinking about going down to a single amp with a floorboard like this. The other part of me doesn’t want to get rid of my Peavey XXL to find it, though, so there’s that. Haha
I have super biased advice on this lol. The only amp I over sold, I regretted... soooo 😂
*_I’m not sure how the XXL compares to the XXX, but I regret selling my XXX._*
If only it had snapshots or something similar. Sounds really good
Haha Very nice how you did this video, man. 😂 It's Fun.
quick question on the gp200 and 100 can you load your own amp models into it or is it just cabs?
Just cabs. When someone creates a device on which you can load amp modellers (for example ml-soundlab) it would be a real revolution.
Hi,i heard this unit had a latest updates..could u do a demo on how to update the unit..tanx🕺👌🎸
Pod Go is now near the bottom of the barrel for modelers. SO many better options in the same price range. My favorite is the Headrush Gigboard.
I currently own a Zoom G5N, is it worth selling mine and getting one of this Gp-200? Thanks
When I try to do the detuning part it sounds horrible
Like a detuned harmonizer
I don't know what am I doing wrong...
Taylor going full on Meshuga 11:30. HAHA.
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So how do you think this measures up against the hotone ampero?
Unless I've missed something in the few reviews out there, the GP-200 lacks the concept of "snapshots" or "scenes" within a patch, which allow you to toggle many parameters at once. As such, you have to rely on switching to an entirely new patch, which will kill your verb/delay trails and maybe even cause a silence gap of a few hundred milliseconds.
So the GP-200 entirely blows the Pod GO out of the water on price (assuming $350 will stick), but lacks this functionality. I'd say that the Headrush MX5 was closer competitor (despite mismatched form factor), but that's been out of stock everywhere and NOW has a street price $100 more than it was a week ago!
Bingo. I was sooo hyped for this to be released knowing it had the XLR output that the POD Go lacks. But, now that I’ve found out it lacks the scenes feature, it’s a no go for me. Also, it does have a noticeable “gap” when switching to a new preset. Deal breaker for me at any price.
@@LearnToSwim423 the Pod Go lack of XLR’s is no big deal imo. Still has a balanced output if you use TRS to XLR.
Boss and Digitech solved this patch changing decay thing with the processing power of a pocket calculator literally in the 1990s... no idea why this is still a problem
Do you usually use the Katana head for powering amp modelers?
No, it was just convenient in this case.
Which do you prefer, valeton gp 200 or mooer ge 250?
I wonder where's the guy asking for Nelson's riffs.
Sounded wayyyy better after you reversed the hair vid clip. It's the literal 'guitar golden age' with all these great quality modellers for lawn-mowing prices. I have a POD HD500X and I don't see any reason to upgrade atm, but I'd like a cheap modeler to go portable to friends places etc as the studio monitors I have are somewhat planted and were so expensive I ain't taking them anywhere.
We live in a good time for guitarists with all this gear😁
Too bad we're all to broke for it lol
Yeah! with all the lockdown gears are loosening up!
Interesting brother 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
Damn now I wish I hadn't bought the Hotone Ampero lmao. This one costs just slightly more and seems like a better value overall.
Would love to hear it in some comparison vids in the future though, with the Ampero, Pod Go and some others too.
I mean, I suppose we have to right? So many chug battles!
Yea I was looking to buy Ampero but now this... Its almost the same price here 😬
I'd rather have the ampero.
@@oldmanshreds Had this Valeton,and try the Dist/Amp n Effects..Reminds me of my previously Ampero..🤭.I just prefered this cause of many footswitches..🤭Well,Valeton is subsidiary company under Hotone i guess..sorry if i'm wrong🙏
Guitar is my second instrument. My god, I’m so behind the current guitar tech, I barely know what this stuff does. Think I’ll have to subscribe and find out.
that axe almost look like a scythe🔥
How it works directly into PA through the mixer?
Where did u get the stand for the pedal
I have to say for what it does and everything it hand everything it has to have a unit like this be the cost of 2 boss is boss wasa haddpetals is outstanding
‘ Bottom line , as an owner , this unit is ‘completely versatile’ !!!🥊🥊✨🎶🎭🌾🎈
snapshot (line6's trademark "scene" feature) is life. it's eric clapton to angus young to randy rhoads in one patch/preset, each a toe swing away.
absolutely an indispensable feature on stage. killer is a strong word, what's the point of let's say hypothetically a cheaper price and slightly better model sound if it makes your life harder going live?
Same models as the Ampero. Both Chinese. This one simply has more switches. The back panel is identical. Probably made same Chinese factory. Sounds terrific
For the price... the Pod Go with some good IRs is still king. I don't like that the GP200 has less options for Amps and tweaking. I know that my Pod can and will adapt to every single PA or cab I have to run it through but the GP200 seems a little bit less versatile by just a smidgen.
You can set your signal chain up however you want in the GP200 and you can’t in Pod Go
It’s amazing how you can hear any differences. To me it all just sounds like metal, no offense
This has potential, another guy A/Bed it against a real SLO and the way he had it dialed in I couldn't tell the difference
So many floorboards, so little time!
cool T-shirt bro
Dat face on thumbnail is perfect
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Better than the waud corntex?
Where did you get yours? it seems it just got released
Valeton sent it to me.
@@TaylorDanley Darn! do you know how much these are gonna cost for the general public? keep up the good work
The era of multi fx reached the era of every 6 month mobile phone upgrades!
Sounds really good tbh! Now… what guitar is this? It looks beyond sick!!
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What do you recommend the line 6 pod go or this?
This sounds the same or better
Seriously i love it valenton GP200
Nice review, but sorry that we don't have the same expantatians of music...
Anyway I blelieve you like if and I also beleve that it will be useful for us who is just to trying to Rock out!
Valeton gp200 or headrush mx5?
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dat hair bro, keep it up
Does it have seamless switching?
I mean it has as much lag as anything else I've used. I think switching lag is pretty minimal now. I didn't see any similar function to L6's snapshots, but take that with an enormous grain of salt because I didn't have time to really dive in and learn all the ins and outs.
@@TaylorDanley - no snap shots or scenes mode confirmed in a few other videos 😢
@@TaylorDanley Let say your rocking a solo and you hold the note at the end, and switch back to the rhythm tone, will it carry over the extra effects over till you play again or will it chop it off? Show me the way Obi Won!
can you get a good Adam Jones tone out of it?
Would be nice to hear something clean sometime.
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Better than nux mg30?
Thomann is selling this unit at 309€ now that I checked. Still, all multi-fx units in the market are great. So great that choosing is very difficult.
I just bought it from Amazon for $280!
Podgo killer noooooo. Just kidding i like the podgo this unit is killer i still rock my rp355 and mp2 into my sx700 love equipment. Great job of slaying on the chops and content
did he say he wants more amp tweaking options to edit, and then say its hard to justify if the unit is more expensive than the pod go, the extra options aren't worth it? Also, did he ever talk about which one sounded better over different styles? Nope
Sounds pretty good! I'd still opt to pay a bit more for something Line 6, or go with one of the even cheaper modelers if I was budget conscious.
Curious as to why you chose to you use the Katana as a poweramp instead of the Powerstage or something similar?
Convenience. I'm disassembling my rack here soon, but I just wasn't ready to do that quite yet, and the katana is just right there ready to plug in and go.
Can it do dual amps in stereo?
No. You can only do single serial chaining. No parallel chaining at all...
From this demo, I would not consider this in the same category as the Pod Go when it comes to sound. This could cost 50 bucks and I’d still recommend the PG over it if you play live shows.
Yeah podgo is awesome if you love the challenge of super limited DSP and reduced options
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender I play fairly straightforward metal/metal core so I just need a good amp, wah, delay, reverb, gate, boost, EQ and compressor. It sounds amazing and through a power amp and Mesa cab, no one can even tell it’s a modeler. Form factor is much more important than DSP because I need quick, simple switching during fast songs while people are jumping around.
@@NelsonBlakeII i'm playing metal too, mostly trivium-ish stuff. Do you think PG would sound significantly better than say a Valeton Gp200 or NUX MG30? I just need simple stuffs like amp modeler noise gate etc. Thanks
@@jawara6263 Look up Leo Gibson's channel for an excellent comparison. I think the PG is the best choice. It already sounds great, but if you're going front of house, the ability to upgrade the cabs allows you to put those excellent amps in the best light. I have no complaints as a gigging metal player.