Thank you my friend, I just adjusted the brand new brake assemblies from the rear twice with no change in holding power. About to blow a gasket when found your video and I work on clocks and springs a lot. I was going try to rig some spacers before watching now just running to Ace for a couple springs then get that ugly rejection sticker off windshield tomorrow. GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thanks Dave video is 8 years old I just saw it this has been a problem for my jeep as well will hook into it today hopefully it will fix the problem cheers Gary in Brisbane
Friggin' Jeep finally fixed this problem on the JLs. Remove 2 simple bolts at the back of the unit (from the back seats), gently lift the console, take your handy socket and slide it in and make on simple adjustment to tighten the brake lines. Really cant believe it took Jeep that many years to make the fix...
Thanks Dave for the excellent video! my wife's 2010 Jeep has been to the mechanic twice for break adjustment and still won't hold! Now I know how to fix it right. Happy wife happy life!
I had failing hand brake in dodge nitro 3 years in a row. Changed 2 times lever with drum, still had problems with passing mot. Finally I replaced cast drums with one drum, custom made out of stainless steel , and then drum with lines was welded permanently to lever. It took me around 40 hours to make custom drum out of stainless steel but it was worth it. Ever since hand brake was solid , car wouldnt moove on drive with hand brake on.
Thanks for this video, doing thos fix this weekend. Stupid design, should have been direct to wire and made a little panel that opened in the console for adjusting if need be.
zzzzClockspring can be tightened using 400mm piece of lacing wire fed under the spring & a loop hooked on to the spring and pulled around to the back(eld with a 4mm rod) Wire again fed under the spring from front & pulled again to hook on the original lug. wire slipped off spring a few times. A couple of steel rulers down side of spring & housing might stop wire slipping offggg
We replaced the entire floor unit, hat rotors and shoes, adjusted multiple times, it still mediocre on hills. We also had to add spacers on both the cables (used split nuts)-its a design that is too clever for its own good
Hola, desde Chile, Mi solucion: Puse dos tie down juntando 4 a 5 vueltas de los resortes a la entrada del tambor, quitandoles tension, ambos lados igual, no tuve que sacar la consola, es muy facil, solo hay que meterse por debajo para colocar en 5 minutos, y quedo espectacular. No esta demas ajustar las balatas del tambor girando la ruedecilla a traves de la ventanita para tal efecto
It could be just maintenance. If you want to save yourself time and trouble. First try lubricating the area between the handle and were the springs are. My wrangle did the same thing and I fixed it with some lubricant. It has been working for 7 months so far.
Hey Mark, it had been replaced by the dealer and still no better, there was a little too much drag in the cable (dirt and dust etc). This fixed it! Car was only about 18 months old at the time, worked perfectly for another 3 years til I sold it.
That hook you put around that bolt is the bolt for the airbag module you'd probably be fine but those modules are sensitive as frig there is a small chance it may set off the air bags if the hook ever came off but as I said before you'll probably be fine
Haha, sorry about that! Yes it was occy strap I called it. Nickname as it looks like octopus tentacles! It looks like rope and filled with rubber to make it a stretchy cord. Often referred to as shock or bungee cord.
@@JustAskDave No problem, thanks. Looks like it is what English people call a bungee cord. My car is a different brand from yours but the handbrake assembly looks virtually the same so I want to give your modification a go.
Ahh cool, good luck and hope it helps! On ours it turned out there was extra resistance in the cables from the hand brake mechanism to the wheels, most likely from dirt, mud and sand as you would expect from an offroad vehicle. That solution worked for me for the next 3 years until I sold it!
Hi Tilley, if you look at the mechanism itself there is a large 'clock spring' keeping tension on the cable. What I found is this spring is no longer strong enough or possibly dirt and mud in the cables is adding resistance. This additional spring I have fitted is just to over come the lack of strength in the clock spring and keeps the cables taught but without activating the drum shoes (the springs in the drum are stronger than the clock spring and helper spring).
After a lifetime of working on vehicles (not jeep), I have never come across a more complicated USELESS dangerous, and unreliable system very badly engineered. A simple adjusting screw on the short cable would suffice and quality cables that do not stretch as much. Another improvement would be to look at the mechanical advantage mechanism in the brake drum which would require less tension on the cables My Toyota surf is 32 years old and has never had an issue with the cables stretching
Thanks for the comment Eat It - however there is no adjustment at the tyre for this part of the parking brake system, only for the pad position. This is an overly complex system for a parking brake and this ensures the park brake lever system is operating correctly. Without doing this it would not have passed road worthy inspection as the park brake lever rises too high before engaging, or not engaging properly at all.
@@JustAskDave I love these people commenting about adjusting the pads at the wheel. No clue what they are taking about. I'm on my second JK and I still deal with this lever position problem. Thanks for the vid. Prefect thing to get my mind going on a solution.
Thank you my friend, I just adjusted the brand new brake assemblies from the rear twice with no change in holding power. About to blow a gasket when found your video and I work on clocks and springs a lot. I was going try to rig some spacers before watching now just running to Ace for a couple springs then get that ugly rejection sticker off windshield tomorrow. GREAT VIDEO!!!
Hope it works well and you can clear that sticker!
Great video! You saved my Jeep!
Thanks Dave video is 8 years old I just saw it this has been a problem for my jeep as well will hook into it today hopefully it will fix the problem cheers Gary in Brisbane
Friggin' Jeep finally fixed this problem on the JLs. Remove 2 simple bolts at the back of the unit (from the back seats), gently lift the console, take your handy socket and slide it in and make on simple adjustment to tighten the brake lines. Really cant believe it took Jeep that many years to make the fix...
Thanks Dave for the excellent video! my wife's 2010 Jeep has been to the mechanic twice for break adjustment and still won't hold! Now I know how to fix it right. Happy wife happy life!
Haha, I can relate totally - Min was a 2010 too and Jeep Dealer had no idea how to fix it, said it was as it was and nothing they could do about it.
Thank you. Did the simolar stuff. Lovely hanbrake strength. I have to rev 1000 rpm in order to move the car now.
I had failing hand brake in dodge nitro 3 years in a row. Changed 2 times lever with drum, still had problems with passing mot. Finally I replaced cast drums with one drum, custom made out of stainless steel , and then drum with lines was welded permanently to lever. It took me around 40 hours to make custom drum out of stainless steel but it was worth it. Ever since hand brake was solid , car wouldnt moove on drive with hand brake on.
Thanks for this video, doing thos fix this weekend. Stupid design, should have been direct to wire and made a little panel that opened in the console for adjusting if need be.
that last part on how to get the console back on was exactly what I needed...thank you sir
Ditto! :)
zzzzClockspring can be tightened using 400mm piece of lacing wire fed under the spring & a loop hooked on to the spring and pulled around to the back(eld with a 4mm rod) Wire again fed under the spring from front & pulled again to hook on the original lug. wire slipped off spring a few times. A couple of steel rulers down side of spring & housing might stop wire slipping offggg
Very clever.
We replaced the entire floor unit, hat rotors and shoes, adjusted multiple times, it still mediocre on hills. We also had to add spacers on both the cables (used split nuts)-its a design that is too clever for its own good
Judith Hitchings - yep, a simple cable system would have been much better!
Did the split nut achieve the same result as the bungee method?
Hola, desde Chile, Mi solucion: Puse dos tie down juntando 4 a 5 vueltas de los resortes a la entrada del tambor, quitandoles tension, ambos lados igual, no tuve que sacar la consola, es muy facil, solo hay que meterse por debajo para colocar en 5 minutos, y quedo espectacular.
No esta demas ajustar las balatas del tambor girando la ruedecilla a traves de la ventanita para tal efecto
It could be just maintenance. If you want to save yourself time and trouble. First try lubricating the area between the handle and were the springs are. My wrangle did the same thing and I fixed it with some lubricant. It has been working for 7 months so far.
Hey Mark, it had been replaced by the dealer and still no better, there was a little too much drag in the cable (dirt and dust etc). This fixed it! Car was only about 18 months old at the time, worked perfectly for another 3 years til I sold it.
Thanks a lot ! Very helpful. Greetings from Germany !
That hook you put around that bolt is the bolt for the airbag module you'd probably be fine but those modules are sensitive as frig there is a small chance it may set off the air bags if the hook ever came off but as I said before you'll probably be fine
Dillon gregorio - yeah it probably is, but it's a stud firmly attached to floor and there is only very little tension on the cord.
Thanks for this. My ebrake has driven me up the wall and cost many $$ with no result.
bravo!! ottimo video!!
This is perfect. Life saver mod. Where did you get the hooks? Home depot shoukd have them right? Thanks for the video!
The hooks are simply old coat hanger wire bent with pliers!
I changed my entire Jeep for a 3 years younger one. Guess what, still the same problem. Don't we love Jeep?
wow man smart way thanks
Throw some shrimp on the Barbie mate!
Brilliant!!
Is it necessary to attach the steel cable in this way? Would it not work without removing the centre console? JK 2013
2013 may have been changed, this was in a 2010. The return spring was not strong enough so the extra spring was.needed.
great stuff
Hi. The same I can fix hand break in jeep kj 2.8CRD 2003r?
thank you.
Can you write down that Aussie word for the string? Sounded like "ockey strap" but when I search, it doesn't show up.
Haha, sorry about that! Yes it was occy strap I called it. Nickname as it looks like octopus tentacles! It looks like rope and filled with rubber to make it a stretchy cord. Often referred to as shock or bungee cord.
@@JustAskDave No problem, thanks. Looks like it is what English people call a bungee cord. My car is a different brand from yours but the handbrake assembly looks virtually the same so I want to give your modification a go.
Ahh cool, good luck and hope it helps! On ours it turned out there was extra resistance in the cables from the hand brake mechanism to the wheels, most likely from dirt, mud and sand as you would expect from an offroad vehicle. That solution worked for me for the next 3 years until I sold it!
thank you, thank you. :)
please tell us if this fix is still working six months later
Hi Judith Hitchings, this was done in esrly 2014 and I sold the vehicle in late 2015 and it was all still working perfectly 18 months later!
I held the tab back with safety wire
Does that cable you hooked up in there keep your brake in too much tension that your brakes are engaged when driving?
Hi Tilley, if you look at the mechanism itself there is a large 'clock spring' keeping tension on the cable. What I found is this spring is no longer strong enough or possibly dirt and mud in the cables is adding resistance. This additional spring I have fitted is just to over come the lack of strength in the clock spring and keeps the cables taught but without activating the drum shoes (the springs in the drum are stronger than the clock spring and helper spring).
No wonder, its made in Canada.
Ok
After a lifetime of working on vehicles (not jeep), I have never come across a more complicated USELESS dangerous, and unreliable system very badly engineered. A simple adjusting screw on the short cable would suffice and quality cables that do not stretch as much. Another improvement would be to look at the mechanical advantage mechanism in the brake drum which would require less tension on the cables My Toyota surf is 32 years old and has never had an issue with the cables stretching
Overkill - just adjust your e brake at the tire! If this doesnt work its time to replace the pads.
Thanks for the comment Eat It - however there is no adjustment at the tyre for this part of the parking brake system, only for the pad position. This is an overly complex system for a parking brake and this ensures the park brake lever system is operating correctly. Without doing this it would not have passed road worthy inspection as the park brake lever rises too high before engaging, or not engaging properly at all.
@@JustAskDave I love these people commenting about adjusting the pads at the wheel. No clue what they are taking about. I'm on my second JK and I still deal with this lever position problem. Thanks for the vid. Prefect thing to get my mind going on a solution.